Hallodoid

[frigid sapphire]

We have a strict No Jokes rule here in the news channels

No humor at all, even

[finite glacier]

i thought it was lighthearted joke didnt see anythign wrong with it

[finite glacier]

kinda like sayin soul filcher whers when can we wear buckets as hats or or blair when do we get more food lol

[finite glacier]

thats cursed

[versed kestrel]

[sinful geode]

didn't taste that good sry

[finite glacier]

maybe just ignore it if it bothers

canw e have more trash tiles!!!

I NEED MORE TRASH

[frigid sapphire]

Just in case you guys didn't see it the first time around

Should still be enough time to do it for b42 I think

[serene bough]

5k messages

[sinful geode]

that 8 bit version?

[frigid sapphire]

I'm personally partial to the original, but I'd take it

[sinful geode]

yeah I was curious but I also prefer the original

maybe do an 8 bit version of Back in Black since it's so dark now in b42

[sinful geode]

6k+ in no time

[versed kestrel]

no licenses please, that is how games get delisted when they expire (or they remove said soundtrack eventually cause of the same reason)

[sinful geode]

I was joking with the Back in Black, referring the dark ambiance in 42

[frigid sapphire]

PZ should require a TV license

[sinful geode]

ads?

[drowsy relic]

dodging TV license inspectors used to be a national sport

alas, those days are long gone by now

at least in PZ its allowed to hit anyone knocking your door with a fire axe

[sinful geode]

bro I have cable television for like 5 years now and they literally cut off the actual cable when the last owners didn't pay the bill but nothing a little engineering couldn't handle, so free TV now :)) no inspections

[drowsy relic]

Worked differently in Finland, inspectors would try to peer into your home to see if you had a device capable of tuning into the two TV channels maintained by the national broadcast agency, even if you never intended or actually watched those channels. You were not legally required to open the door, or let them in. But they would quite literally try to get their way in, in any legal manner

[sinful geode]

I'm actually pirating the TV signal now.....a dark pirate matey

[drowsy relic]

Now, the age of inspectors is over and everyone pays a separate tax for the stuff anyway...

It had to end, since you can watch TV and anything with modern devices like phones, PCs etc...

[sinful geode]

the state wants your money

[drowsy relic]

well, can be considered as a compromise as the taxed amount is progressive, low income households and underage not required to pay anything

[sinful geode]

I hate the progressive system

[drowsy relic]

but the current form of the broadcasting tax is cheaper than license back then

[sinful geode]

they are trying to enforce it and I don't like it

[drowsy relic]

Don't drink and drive in Finland if you're a millionnaire, you're gonna hate the 5-6 digit fine 😉

[sinful geode]

that's stupid imo

same goes for Sweeden

[drowsy relic]

that ensures you can't do crime if you got money

no buying your way off

[sinful geode]

Ohh man

do you think a millionaire cares about that fine?

if you had like millions of euros do you care about a 10.000 euro fine?

[drowsy relic]

they do when the amount for one is big

[sinful geode]

I wouldn't

that's just left-wing politics

[drowsy relic]

The point is, if you wanna keep speeding, you're gonna pay big each time

no one gets bankcrupt by one-time offense

[sinful geode]

that's wrong for a state to do with it's citizens

take his driver's license for life

nullify his driving right

[drowsy relic]

well I can't say this is related to PZ anyway, but since we grazed TV license comment it ended this way lol

[sinful geode]

nothing wrong with this

but this commie masked plaguing of wellbeing and tax reforms in western democracies is just festering in my mind

kudos to Finland for joining the North Allaince

was about time

[frigid sapphire]

Remind me to never bring up TV licenses again

[drowsy relic]

Can you bring up b42

I'm running out of things to do

[real gazelle]

I need the b42

[drowsy relic]

been trying to get motivation to play various other games with base building and open world-y content but without much success

[serene bough]

kenshi space engineers green hell

[real gazelle]

still haven’t found a game that hooks me like pz

[drowsy relic]

I recently played a lot of Space Engineers but god the lack of real content even with mods

[serene bough]

space engineers 2 if it’s a thing will be crazy. their new engine is crazy

[signal sparrow]

speaking of TV, we need Bob Ross VHS tapes that give -99 stress, unhappiness, and boredom

oh wait nvm. The TV discussion has concluded

[real gazelle]

I always lose interest and toss games off my list, but sadly, PZ needs that build to feel fun again

[drowsy relic]

tomorrow I'll start a new V Rising playthrough to see if it keeps me

[serene bough]

is that game fun

[drowsy relic]

all games lead to PZ

[serene bough]

i haven’t played pz in months

[drowsy relic]

it can be fun, I didnt progress super far in it tho so its relatively fresh

[real gazelle]

lol

[drowsy relic]

its either gonna be V Rising or Valheim until b42

I need to be able to admire my creations without being pushed to upkeep something like my life depended on it

[real gazelle]

I stopped playing a little while ago, and when I did, I was like, 'yep, this really needs some fixes

[real gazelle]

oh, I’m playing Valheim, and I’m into it

[drowsy relic]

Valheim does some things right, and the light effects and weather is 5/5

just hate how cosmetic building blocks are tied to your boss progress

so I gotta progress first before I can truly build something epic

[real gazelle]

but I’ll be happy when b42 drops, I can't wait for that anymore

been playing The Binding of Isaac lately, man, what a perfect game

it’s got me hooked like Project Zomboid, it’s so dumb and pointless, but man, it’s SO GOOD

[sinful geode]

It's Star Citizen for me if b42 is delayed, another unfinished game bc why not

[sinful geode]

same, always had that feeling that it's not worth it since b42 is close

[finite glacier]

YES IT IS

i made jurrassic park

[drowsy relic]

for first time ever I'll use the mods that add towns (hopefully with new systems updated to the mods like cellars) in PZ with b42

should give me stuff to do for a long time

[sinful geode]

?

[finite glacier]

jurassic park

theyre fighting over legos

[sinful geode]

I recommend Raven Creek and Dirkerdam both huge, I believe Dirkerdam is bigger than LV

[sinful geode]

aaa lol 😉

[mossy robin]

Play enshrouded

[drowsy relic]

should at least try, heard good stuff

[mossy robin]

It’s so amazing. Small dev team but they care a lot and they deliver updates relatively fast so far and it’s always good never anything useless. It’s like valheim but way better

[drowsy relic]

I'll buy it tomorrow lol

no price is too much when waiting for b42

[mossy robin]

Is there an eta on b42? I’ve lost confidence to the point that I’ve stopped keeping up with the news

[drowsy relic]

still 2024

we would get informed if b42 is delayed

[sinful geode]

;)) the pain, I feel it

[drowsy relic]

and what comes to b42 "phases", its apparently under external testing atm as newest thursdoid indicates, so bugfixes and polishing

Whoever gets the first post in the newspost that releases b42 unstable, I hope he or she writes "b43 when"

[sinful geode]

No, but at the moment it's external testing and feedback is good.
This month is crucial, if everything goes well with testing, then I guess we can see it rolled out in December.
2024 remains current target for release nothing's changed on that

[mossy robin]

I really hope all goes well then

Waiting is getting a bit painful and tiring

[frigid sapphire]

Guys I don't want to alarm you but b42 unstable has been out for seven months now

[sinful geode]

another dream ?

[finite glacier]

ya cause unstable rtesting

[sinful geode]

or just plain hallucinations this time ?

[drowsy relic]

Omar I haven't seen you post here for months, it is clear you were in coma

[sinful geode]

yep it needs a refresh

[coarse python]

I wonder with basements if it’s possible to dig a trench around the base

Might be a bit too op

[signal sparrow]

base across the Ohio River

[abstract summit]

They don’t do December

[signal sparrow]

[mental token]

Where'd ya hear that?

[lunar tangle]

i have gotten some confirmation by multiple sources that build 42 will not feature the map of california and surrounding states

[signal sparrow]

they should at least add London

[versed kestrel]

It is so good 😊

I love it

[proud seal]

https://tenor.com/view/jacknicholson-angry-pissed-tantrum-theshining-gif-4961642

God damn it Lemmy how could you

Why even live?

[sinful geode]

troll ? I sense a troll

[sinful geode]

It won't, the event is happening in Kentucky

[marsh wigeon]

Not possible.

[shut moss]

Just curious why that actually ? Is making holes through the floor 0 not possible with the basement system ?

[serene bough]

what would be under the floor?😂

[shut moss]

Digging tunnels.....

[serene bough]

dirt isn’t a thing

[shut moss]

A trench

[shut moss]

Uh ?

[serene bough]

no but floor 1 to 0 is not the same as 0 to -1

1 to 0 is just air

but 0 to -1 is filled with dirt

[shut moss]

Yes and lmao ?

[serene bough]

so it would have to construct walls of dirt and a floor to simulate digging

dawg ur way too passive aggressive

[shut moss]

Yes that's already possible for existing floors

Just I don't understand where you want to go with this

[serene bough]

acting like i’m targeting you im just answering

[shut moss]

The reasons you gave on why it wouldn't be possible, are straight up already doable for floors above 0

[serene bough]

look

let’s say ur in a second floor

u wanna dig down u just deconstruct the floor right

you’ll simply fall to the first floor with walls already built

[steel gulch]

They should add Danville

[shut moss]

So I wonder if TECHNICALLY they only allow to go from 0 to -1 via basement stairs which would explain why or if he just means "not possible" as in their current version, which would be moddable in the game

I've had this idea for mapping and mod ideas for traps to make holes through the floor that lead to an underground or just a pit trap

[kind wraith]

Add California

[serene bough]

ur talking about building urself with map tools?

or in an actual run?

[shut moss]

Brother:

• make an action to dig
• digging will create tiles and walls necessary

All this is already possible in the base game, for existing floors

[shut moss]

Both

I have a mod idea I want to work on which involves tiles breaking under the player, which would be doable for existing floors rn, like wet planks breaking

[serene bough]

so far there’s no system for automatically building the tiles as you dig

[shut moss]

In the base game no, but the modding tools are available to it

[finite glacier]

dinosaurs

[shut moss]

Idc about it being in the base game tbf, just if the tools for us modders and mappers are available to just straight up have a hole that's good

But if the "not possible" is because of a technical reason, I would be quite sad and shocked tbf as it would mean the negative floors don't actually act like normal floors (of course they are a bit special because below ground already but it's not about that)

[serene bough]

ppl boutta ask for building stairs as you dig

i think digging will only be modded since no matter what it’ll look jank imo

[shut moss]

Same thing tbf, if there's no weird limitations that's already possible to implement

[shut moss]

Yea they have mentioned it in past blog posts but I'd be surprised to see it implemented officially

[sinful geode]

You cannot use sledgehammers on basement walls to destroy them / dig through

[shut moss]

But as long as there is no weird limitations for modders, it's fine

[shut moss]

Mods allow anything buddy

[sinful geode]

we are not talking about mods

[shut moss]

i think digging will only be modded since no matter what it’ll look jank imo
we kind are, we've been talking about mods and official game the entire convo

[serene bough]

they said before that this game is not minecraft lol

[shut moss]

yea

[sinful geode]

let me reiterate, in the vanilla game this will not be possible

[serene bough]

we alr knew

talking about possibilities

[shut moss]

Yes I agree they will most likely not implement it

[sinful geode]

possibilities are endless

[shut moss]

Technically, I don't see why a mod wouldn't be able to remove a wall and create new sets of wall unless there's some weird ass technical shit going on with the basements

[serene bough]

honestly though before a digging feature i’d much rather a foundation update

[shut moss]

We can already do that on the existing floors

[serene bough]

like not building sky bridges

[shut moss]

Sadly how the game is I doubt we'll see that ever

[finite glacier]

those are so silly lol

[serene bough]

i mean i could see it

like if there’s nothing under a set of like 5 floors it could just break

[shut moss]

Technically I think it's doable but it requires the game to manage every tiles and uh ...

[serene bough]

not really, just hand built tiles

[finite glacier]

dunno how they would even combat that , people would probably just find a workaround somehow .. place a trash tile on it and it doesnt break or some shit

[serene bough]

true lol

[shut moss]

Yes, but that's still a fuck ton of tiles whenever a player builds something

[serene bough]

maybe has to be a wall

[finite glacier]

it woudl be something wierd lol

[shut moss]

That would be easy to fix

[serene bough]

well i assume it wouldn’t check tiles from louisville if you’re in muldraugh

[shut moss]

They are not loaded anyway so you can't even access those

[finite glacier]

yah im just using it an an example that some people in the community will go to great lengths to avoid zombies lol

[shut moss]

But imagine a massive wood building

They better spread those checks within a lot of ticks lmao

[shut moss]

Don't get me wrong, there will always be cheese strats

[serene bough]

i’d say there could be a system where once it registers as it being stable it wouldn’t check it anymore until it’s messed with or smth idk

[shut moss]

I bet that shit would be so fucking easy to abuse lmao

I thought about it tbf

But I see so many potential flaws with it it's insane

Could be just about a modder changing tiles, breaking it

[serene bough]

to be fair if you’re abusing it then ur probably a pro

it’s better than a system being accessible to new players

which is just no system for it

[shut moss]

I guess

[serene bough]

like the crate fence

[shut moss]

Tho building a mother fucking sky bridge is rarely the first thing that comes to mind of a new player xD

They tend to be too occupied surviving a few zombies attacks, so gl cutting down an entire forest to build that bridge

[serene bough]

well if ur hella scared of zombies downstairs you’d be building a bridge from building to building😂

[shut moss]

That's if you have everything needed to build

Which requires you to go downstairs

Or destroy entire buildings I guess

[serene bough]

i remember new ppl un a video being like “it looked like an immersive game till i saw that sky bridge”

so it’s also the aspect of being pleasing to the eye

[signal sparrow]

https://youtu.be/sGgFAhy-VFc?si=EZSxfG4jWGOvqTIs

[finite glacier]

lol noo

[marsh wigeon]

Exactly, this isn't Minecraft

[shut moss]

Yes I'm aware it's because it won't be in the official version. But technically it's possible ?

There's no limitations in-between positive and negative floors ?

[serene bough]

look at snow is water and what it does to everyone’s game

imagine now messing with this system 😂

[finite glacier]

oo i disable that on floor lol

i get lost

[shut moss]

You'd be surprised how many mods are really bad on the technical aspect actually

I should check their code actually

[serene bough]

i just can’t wait for being able to open the crafting menu without almost crashing

[shut moss]

lol

[serene bough]

and excited for all the crafting stuff ppl will make, finally not just plopping random materials needed and plopping out the craft

[shut moss]

Having learned modding for the past months, I do agree 100% with that statement

[marsh wigeon]

That is up to modders to find out.

[shut moss]

Yea I already got that planned lmao

[serene bough]

someone will DEFINITELY make a mod to make wilderness survival even more realistic like Vintage Story

atp id turn off zombies😂

[shut moss]

The crafting system rn is so flawed bcs it pushes modders to use it and not understand what you can actually use instead of it

[shut moss]

I think a knapping interface is already possible, tho not sure that'd fit the game lol

We'll have to see what's available to us

[serene bough]

well i assume a minigame

like timing right

like aiteron with lock picking

[shut moss]

Yea, gl animating that shit lmao

[shut moss]

Have never checked his code actually, forgot that existed, tho I never used either so I'm not too familiar what it looks like, if stuff are animated on the interface or not is mostly what I wonder about

[serene bough]

well it should be even more possible now

we got fishing minigame so

[shut moss]

True

[serene bough]

same guy btw

aiteron

he’s just a menace ig

[finite glacier]

birbteron

[signal sparrow]

I modded in some trenches and yes, you can place the graves trenches above basements. The zombies won’t fall through and fall on you when you’re down in the basement or anything

[finite glacier]

wait lol

that would be so funny lol friend digging a grave and zomber just plopps in

[drowsy relic]

I'd like to think the general stance of some TIS people is "this isn't game X" is because adding too many perfectly realistic things to PZ would make the game so much easier than intended, up to trivializing the zombie apocalypse. Adding digging defenses to have permanent passive managing zeds...or adding enough animal species that in reality would actually attack zeds because a human without intelligence is called an easy snack. Or that cold temperatures would realistically slow down zeds to a point they would no longer be mobile. Or the whole fact human body cannot function without energy, while a zed is perfectly fine existing forever doing nothing.

I suppose, sometimes you have to ignore or avoid realism in order to have an entertaining game...!

[finite glacier]

i like suffering

[vapid zenith]

Yup. Realistically, all the zombies would die from the elements or not eating anything within like three months but that's not super fun gameplay wise

[marsh wigeon]

Yeah, we already have to live with the very realistic floating bases, we don't anti-floating bases

[finite glacier]

lol

[vapid zenith]

Unless they photosynthesis? Put on your tin caps people

[drowsy relic]

It's called "a boat", a floating base

...but you refer to skybases!

[fluid trench]

where do they get their salts and waters

[finite glacier]

gravity is different in the world of pz timeline lol

[vapid zenith]

Rain

Zombies are plants confirmed

[finite glacier]

lol

[drowsy relic]

Don't say it out loud, I'd prefer lower altitude zeds being lower altitude instead of randomly floating or swimming in air towards me

[finite glacier]

so thats why i keep finding them in wilson nunyabusiness road

[finite glacier]

lol the skyrim feature

[drowsy relic]

I preferred having that one mod that would play "spooky scary skeleton" as skeleton type mobs approached, slowly, in the dark...behind corners

true horror element

[finite glacier]

lol id shit myself, last night while playing i almost sharted with the jumpscare sound

[drowsy relic]

I hate the sound when I can clearly hear a zed inside somewhere, but the moment I pass by a window the game decides, you're gonna be scared or you will cry and be scared

[finite glacier]

lol yeah its always when im not paying attention, but it DOES save my ass A LOT

[signal sparrow]

zombies should throw mud, rocks, and tomatoes at us when we are up on our floating bases

[drowsy relic]

free tomatoes, noice

easy game

[finite glacier]

free rocks, noice

LOl

give us a inch we will take 5 miles

[drowsy relic]

free mud results in a free primitive home up there

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-looking-up-scared-among-us-gif-27315085

[finite glacier]

😆

[abstract summit]

December is holiday month for them

They have in the past released stuff on that month but

They really really don’t want to release unstable on December

Especially a unstable

[finite glacier]

they released b 41 on in decembers

[signal sparrow]

December is no big deal. Pat said he’d stick around for bug fixing while the team takes the month off

[finite glacier]

lol

[drowsy relic]

release unstable on 24th of December so everyone has to make toughest choices, in-game and IRL alike

A christmas or equivalent dinner with the family or pretending to be sick and playing PZ, easy choice

[finite glacier]

lol they would be so mad

[drowsy relic]

24th cus that covers multiple cultures who celebrate stuff on different day

[drowsy relic]

but I WILL be spending my christmas alone as my wife is going to her family abroad, someone has to take care of the baby buns here....so PZ it is

[signal sparrow]

telling your boss you got sick with Knox and telling your family we can have a feast in PZ instead

[finite glacier]

i should make my sister play for holidays and use her for zomber bait

[serene bough]

me chilling not celebrating christmas

[sinful geode]

I guess you just make my point

[sinful geode]

why not? best month for releases imo

[sinful geode]

:)))

sadistic

[sinful geode]

that's the best part, it's a beta no one expects it to be perfect, we have stable for that

[coarse python]

Tbh I would like some debuff to zombies in cold and snow to slow them down slightly

[drowsy relic]

is that not what the game implies will happen anyway, as time goes, they slow down vs fresh zeds

[coarse python]

I think the zombie deterioration doesn’t do anything rn

[drowsy relic]

yeah I can't really tell if it works or not, probably doesn't

[coarse python]

Although it would be a nice balance to have stronger but less fresh zombies during the start, then a lot but more rotten zombies as the game goes on

[flint edge]

Pat told everyone to take the rest of the year off, he's gonna wrap up B42 solo

[signal sparrow]

Lenny gonna have to give Pat a raise then

[fluid trench]

I have a feeling that's false information, please provide the source of the information.

[sinful geode]

I think it's a joke

[fluid trench]

That's nigh impossible, we are nothing but serious! here at the indie game store blog posts, we share nothing but the truth.

[signal sparrow]

“trust me, bro”

[fluid trench]

👁️ ..

[signal sparrow]

[finite glacier]

ew lol

[fluid trench]

ergh..

[finite glacier]

[fluid trench]

Insomniac.. check your eyes..

[finite glacier]

lol that looks so cursed

[signal sparrow]

lol it’s the insomnia

[foggy basin]

Do yall think we're close to build 42

unstable

[drowsy relic]

closer than a year ago

very close given 2024 is far closer to ending

[foggy basin]

we're closer than a year ago to the heat death of the universe too

[signal sparrow]

[drowsy relic]

every 60 seconds, a minute passes

I'll be confident we get b42 unstable before year ends

[foggy basin]

every 60 minutes, an hour passes in africa

[drowsy relic]

every 60 seconds, 12 years passes in Interstellar movie

[foggy basin]

every move you make, every step you take

[drowsy relic]

what if I move my hands only, 0 steps taken??

[fluid trench]

Then you'd be flailing your arms around stood still like an entity.

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/inflatable-tube-man-air-dancer-wind-balloon-air-puppet-gif-24875468

[drowsy relic]

thats my life in a nutshell, doing everything at the PC wailing for b42 to relieve me from my boredom

[fluid trench]

Thank goodness b42 isn't required to sustain life.

[drowsy relic]

I am a PZ-based lifeform, carbon is so millions of years ago

[signal sparrow]

Project Zombodian

[foggy basin]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

me finding out there are people playtesting

[drowsy relic]

they're the brave souls testing an even more broken version of the best build so far with all of its bugs and annoyances, just so we peasants can have the best experience

[foggy basin]

i've never wished to be a sacrificial lamb this hard

[drowsy relic]

the chosen testers were marked at birth, and they pulled some weird sword off a rock at TIS HQ

[lean forge]

cant wait for the day we finally get build 42 and the content on youtube will get soo much better

[drowsy relic]

all the b42 PZ series starting...

all the publicity and other goods flowing in for a work well done over years

[lean forge]

also lots of bug reports on the forums during the first week lol

[fluid trench]

i'm looking forward to the graphical overhaul to be honest, the pixelated almost 2001 look of the game is unsatisfying.

[foggy basin]

I've never minded the look too much

[drowsy relic]

I don't think PZ is gonna change in looks anymore, the very first playable versions were less pretty anyway

[burnt bronze]

Yeah it amplifies the nostalgia

[lean forge]

build 41 so far has been the best update indie stone released compared to older ones

[drowsy relic]

it was merely a prelude, an important stepping stone that brought much joy...but b42 hype defies the natural order, in contempt to common sense

[lean forge]

glad with animals being the first form on NPC testing before the human AI arrive

[foggy basin]

content wise i don't think we had anything like what b42 promises in pz history

[serene bough]

update is bigger than pz first release 😂

[foggy basin]

i own pz since like 2012 or smthing

[finite glacier]

ya its awesome watching it grow

[foggy basin]

back then it was like, pixel zeds

[finite glacier]

lol the aliens

[foggy basin]

guns were mega op

[finite glacier]

really? i dont recall if i ever used them back then

[foggy basin]

map was pokemon town sized

[finite glacier]

😆

[foggy basin]

they were like one out of 20 items in the game

[finite glacier]

i remember when melee weapons all had the bat texture

[foggy basin]

can opener i think is the only design that survived to this day

i remember opening cans with that orange thing and setting my house on fire with kate on it in the tutorial

[finite glacier]

lol i just played that tutorial and did the same thing, never got to smother her i kept bugging out the game or something

[foggy basin]

that tutorial needs to come back, it was a perfect introduction to zomboid in general, but i guess it requires NPCs to be a thing

I've owned zomboid for so long i played it when it still had npcs lmao

[finite glacier]

yah it was eeerie loading into it with that music , my fav pz song, i was just like "NOOO" i dont want to do this

and omg the npcs in that , i went out there and just stared at one and he hit a zombie and killed me in the process somehow

[cursive fulcrum]

41 was a far more fundamental change, how quickly people forget

[serene bough]

whatt

wasn’t last build 40

i feel like 41 had more fundamential changes but b42 has more countable things idk how to explain

[foggy basin]

It was a big change but gameplay changed a lot less

[serene bough]

well we never got to b42 stable so

so theres still a lot more coming

[foggy basin]

None of this affected the gameplay loop much, core experience was still pretty much the same

Not denying how crazy good of an update it was, but still

[finite glacier]

remeber when we didnt have weather!!?

[serene bough]

that mentality makes ppl think TIGS is slow

[frigid sapphire]

I think it's a fair point, with the clarification that they're referring to the gameplay loop

The gameplay itself changed in b41 by virtue of the addition & modification of systems, but the gameplay loop didn't really change much at all. b42 is intended, at least in part, to change the gameplay loop for longer-term playthroughs

[drowsy relic]

Whoever suggested to try Enshrouded while waiting for B42, you were not wrong. Solid game so far at the start even with my faulty Intel CPU possibly trying to cause problems

[abstract summit]

They said they would never do that again

[finite glacier]

Where

[rough oxide]

I think they should still release it in december just for the christmas spirit

[signal sparrow]

the more we talk about it, the longer we wait

[dull gazelle]

95% of the players started playing in B41. They can't remember what they never experienced ☝️ 🤓

[frigid sapphire]

Is that actually true

Wild if so

[dull gazelle]

I think? I never even heard about PZ before B42 and I was a very big fan of zombie and survival games in the 2010s lol

[frigid sapphire]

I was just wondering if that was an actual stat pulled somewhere lol, I see now that it was hyperbole

[serene bough]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-11399444358411290094

[frigid sapphire]

Ig it shouldn't be surprising though, I've almost never not had to explain what PZ is when it comes up irl

[dull gazelle]

Okay let me look for the actual number, but I'm sure it's over 85%

[frigid sapphire]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's something high yeah, 95% was just shocking

[dull gazelle]

The game had under 2.000 players per month before the first release of B41 beta. The peak after B41 was 65.000 players

If my math is mathing, like 3% of the current player base was from before B41

[finite glacier]

thats not bad look at lil pz go

[signal sparrow]

something interesting to note: peak player transition from November to December 2021

[finite glacier]

what did it look liek before 21

[signal sparrow]

no more than 5.3K for peak players

[frigid sapphire]

Seems like this assumes unique players across those months, so I'm unsure the math is fully mathing. Nonetheless wild

[signal sparrow]

https://steamdb.info/app/108600/charts/#breakdown

[finite glacier]

so awesome

[dull gazelle]

Fair

[kindred yew]

When B42 drops

I feel like the record might break

[signal sparrow]

more likely after stable drops

and probably after a Steam sale

I predict all-time peak player count gonna double at least

[versed kestrel]

Getting people into unstable is a hassle so probably stable yea

[fickle venture]

B42 is gonna be amazing. It's more than gonna be worth the wait. I know it. Don't lose faith.

[finite glacier]

Someone make goodie ibsdie sotne of that

Wth

[sinful geode]

Yep double at the very least

And I do agree that while B41 was the biggest and significant update thus far, the gameplay stayed the same, except for small changes here and there, but not so impactful

[fluid trench]

Did you have a stroke?

[midnight elm]

The gameplay didn’t change? It became a lot harder imo

Multihit disabled by default, crawling zombies, being grappled, zombie takedowns

[burnt bronze]

• Getting absolutely peppered with vision checks

[midnight elm]

Before 41 you could sprint through a horde ahaha

[burnt bronze]

1 extreme to the other lol

[midnight elm]

You think 41 is too difficult?

[burnt bronze]

Not overall. But there are defs some systems that are tuned a little.. unforgivingly

[midnight elm]

Nothing a sledgehammer to some stairs won’t fix 😭

[burnt bronze]

Bahaha

That said, with the right sandbox settings even a stairless base running the ladder mod can still provide some challenge

[sinful geode]

the gameplay loop, I forgot to specify, I didn't mention anything about difficulty

overall difficulty changed with sprinters imo

[sinful geode]

yeah but this stuff is mostly combat related, have you ever played project zomboid without vehicles ? because I have and I'm not talking about wilderness survival and believe me it's a whole different feeling

[limpid shore]

minecraft suffers from the same curse

[foggy basin]

Agreed

Combat as a mechanic changed a lot in B41 and made the game feel better, and more balanced throughout, but the core gameplay experience was still very similar to what you did in b40

Looting early game, build farm, secure perimeter, then play hardcore stardew valley

[burnt bronze]

"Safehouse Flipper"

[sinful geode]

that's why I'm glad they are adding a wilderness only map, gets you out of that same style

[cursive fulcrum]

The Chosen Few

[finite glacier]

And thats how i died last night on my 2 week old char lolol

[lean geyser]

This got me curious, I actually had this game gifted to me back during build 32... I didn't realize I was one of the special few (back when MP was a mod and you had to Hamachi it)

[finite glacier]

Oh wow lol

[lean geyser]

Yeah considering how far the game has gotten it's hard to remember but when the game was using sprites and you had to combat stance to sneak (or at least it felt sneakier)

[unique badge]

technically you still can with FPS fuckery, retanaru has a video about it. obviously much harder

[lean geyser]

But that also means I've been a rusty rifle enjoyer since 2015 😎

I'm something of an "OG" myself

[finite glacier]

lol rusty rifle enjoyer

[lean geyser]

At first it was just far enough south on the map that it was always easy to find, it always had such little pop near it and it had beds, now it's just got alchies to make the first few days of the end of the world comfy

[finite glacier]

wait where is it lol

[lean geyser]

South Mully

Hunker down, have a couple of pints, and wait for it all to blow over

[finite glacier]

OHHH , my save on my deck is around there in that little cabin lol

the rusty riffle!!!

[lean geyser]

A certified Muldraugh Classic ™️

[finite glacier]

yah i went to kae and bobs house knowingly for the first time the other day lol, was cool to see that

[finite glacier]

😆

[elder sandal]

MP wasn't a mod, we've had Multiplayer since 2014 or 2015 😄

And people used Hamachi because it simulated a LAN network and they circumvented portforwarding that way

[lean geyser]

I remember having to do some fucky shit to make it work, but it was also 8 years ago and I was a baby so it's possible just setting it up felt like Wizardry at the time

[frigid sapphire]

Before b41 if you showed a friend the game in multiplayer there was a lot more “it's good just trust me bro” involved (this might read as an insult; it's moreso a compliment for the current state)

[elder sandal]

I have friends who still haven't checked out the game

"it's good, trust me bro" never ended

just that I can point at a cooler player numbers chart now

[lean geyser]

I just buy it for people so they feel obligated to play it with me and within a week will ask me to jump on when I'm playing something else (the good ending)

[finite glacier]

lol

entrapment !

[lean geyser]

Like with any good drug, the first sample has to be free

[cursive fulcrum]

I would never be friends with a "gamer"

[fluid trench]

https://tenor.com/view/liilmini-lilminichair-lil-mini-chair-gif-25631470

[lean forge]

toilet chair

[foggy basin]

I bought the game on Desura, before steam came up with greenlight in 2012

[fluid trench]

"Gamer" chair

[foggy basin]

This means i've owned PZ for at least 12 years

I don't think anything i ever bought has had this much continuous value

[lean geyser]

🛐 the OG of the OGs

Can't believe Pat_Bren is throwing around the G word so casually 😔

[foggy basin]

i should buy the game again cause i almost feel bad

these guys have been feeding me updates for 12 years for like the 10 dollars i may have paid back then

[lean geyser]

Buy it for a friend or friend(s)

That way you've got more people to play with, you're supporting the game, and when your friends love it they can pay it forward too

[foggy basin]

big brain

[cursive fulcrum]

Gimme money

[lean geyser]

Check your paystub 🤯

[finite glacier]

sorry this all i have

[sinful geode]

the stairless safehouse is such a cheese tactic it's actually hilarious, used it once I believe, but we had horde night and another hardcore meta mod running like EHE.

[lean geyser]

Let's be real tho nobody really dies in their base outside of helicopter events

[sinful geode]

depends on what mods you're running

[finite glacier]

i tried that once too lol but found it was pretty easy to avoid hoards in general , i started playing with sound radius of 1000 and its been great with alarms -.- lol

[versed kestrel]

is EHE still de-syncy as heck on MP? I was going to add it to my server but I feared the desync

[sinful geode]

don't know

[versed kestrel]

opt for sometimes heli instead

[sinful geode]

we ran that challenge last year on our private server, worked ok but check out the mod settings in the sandboxvars.lua

you should tweak some increments and if I recall

it has a setting to repeat endlessly the set increments, that needs to be checked

[versed kestrel]

I really just like it for the jets tbh

dragging hordes around with jets is neat

[sinful geode]

military drops we OP last time

[versed kestrel]

yea

[sinful geode]

were*

[versed kestrel]

I feel like the shooting at you when they become aggressive is a bit unfun

[sinful geode]

have you ever got killed?

cauz we have lol

and I don't know if the modder disabled that but it's there in vars.lua

[versed kestrel]

I haven't been killed by it directly but I have had bullets lodged in me that caused limping which ended up killing me

[sinful geode]

ok, so it's not a bug like we believed

[sinful geode]

The Calm Before The Storm

brutal mod

[lean geyser]

Really need to try it out

[sinful geode]

that one + EHE + Horde Nights

[lean geyser]

Either that or switching to realistic gunshot audio range

[sinful geode]

just try that deadly trio

[lean geyser]

Seems redundant, no? Doesn't horde night do what calm does just with spawning zeds?

[sinful geode]

:)) you'll be up to your neck with base defences

[sinful geode]

no no

calm before the storm can be configured as a last stand challenge

like after 1-2 years of in-game time, all zombies on the map will know your location, all....

[lean geyser]

My poor framerate

[sinful geode]

and they will be pin pointed to you and will show up on your doorstep

[sinful geode]

I recommend a good rig for that

[versed kestrel]

can do that with wandering zombies too

[sinful geode]

yeah there are others that simulate that as well

there is one that groups up smaller hordes like 20-30 zombies and redirects them to ya from time to time

[sinful geode]

how are the guys ? enjoying all the stuff to come in b42 :)?

[finite glacier]

did they find the elusive purse?!

[midnight elm]

vehicles were added a long time ago idk how well you’d fare in 41 without vehicles

i remember it feeling like a trek just to get to the mall from WP but that’s nothing now compared to Louisville

[versed kestrel]

The ones that stuck with it seem to be enjoying it 🙂

during peak hours we still have like 5-8 players

I do have to say "that's coming in B42" a ton lol

it is probably exhausting to hear

[signal sparrow]

“okay, but when is B42?”

[finite glacier]

thats when you sday yah thatll be cool

[serene bough]

do dedicated servers pass time even with 0 people online

[versed kestrel]

depends on settings

[finite glacier]

think thats off by default but you can enable it

[versed kestrel]

default pauses when people are not online

[versed kestrel]

😂

[signal sparrow]

do all your friends have a Spiffo plush? Acquiring one = successful playthrough

[versed kestrel]

haven't seen a single one yet lol

which is wild to me

[finite glacier]

theyre in riverside!!

[versed kestrel]

yea we would need to make a trip there

[finite glacier]

yah i never found one in mudlrag off the top of my head

lol and holy crap

[signal sparrow]

don’t go to Hugo Plush in Riverside tho. It’s misleading. No plushies there

[serene bough]

they need to add a full size spiffo plush

human size

[versed kestrel]

costco bear sized spiffo

8feet tall lol

[signal sparrow]

then we inadvertently squeeze its hand to hear “this is how you died” voice line from it

or some raccoon sound

[polar venture]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-peek-hiding-hide-gif-5340342

Is it safe to come out and ask about [REDACTED] and when [VERY REDACTED]?

[versed kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/nooo-bunny-gif-17809281831483726478

[sinful geode]

try it, do a 41 run without any vehicles

[versed kestrel]

We only JUST got a working car in our playthrough

[signal sparrow]

B42 should remove all vehicles (“unintended”) to promote usage of the new tents and sleeping bags

[finite glacier]

same here lol , had to walk all the way to riverside from muldrag

[finite glacier]

rofl

[polar venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/897313876830457927.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[sinful geode]

ohh progress seems good since last time I saw the map

[polar venture]

Back to hiding!

[sinful geode]

yeah yeah I'd imagine it happened a lot

😛

there is a mod called time decrease vehicle condition and another called worst vehicles condition

both brutal mods for cars

I love both

[versed kestrel]

yea one for decreased loot over time too

which I am kind of tempted to put in

[sinful geode]

YES !

a very good mod also couple it (like the couple of months for 42 release) with more loot settings

[sinful geode]

nice

I like the "hardcoreness"

[versed kestrel]

😁

[signal sparrow]

how’s the food and water supply?

[versed kestrel]

muldraugh has been mostly cleared of zombies too

[sinful geode]

pop setting?

[versed kestrel]

I started off small cause I didn't want the noobs to get overwhelmed to much so started at 0.5 pop peak is 3.0 still 28 days

so when we move to westpoint they are gonna feel it

[finite glacier]

lol

[sinful geode]

huehuehuehue

there in for a surprise in WP

[signal sparrow]

Worst Place once they realize what they’re in for

[sinful geode]

you either got it or you don't

[versed kestrel]

😁

basically gonna start on the edge of town and work our way in

[midnight elm]

when 42 is out, sure

[versed kestrel]

slowly

[sinful geode]

If they're natural born zombie killers this is the time to find out

[midnight elm]

still really burnt out on zomboid

[sinful geode]

it's a different experience imo

carefully plan out every step, etc

[signal sparrow]

I’d drop them off at WP then drive away

[versed kestrel]

🤣

[sinful geode]

:))))

[versed kestrel]

"Good luck"

[sinful geode]

cruel

[signal sparrow]

hear the chaos ensue on the VC

[sinful geode]

also record it !!!

record the voices for fun and giggles

[versed kestrel]

"This is how they died... and never came back to the server"

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-pz-player-pz-project-zomboid-zombie-zombie-evade-gif-24314586

maybe one of them might get lucky and run all the way to LV after losing the WP horde

they’ll be in for a real treat

[versed kestrel]

[sinful geode]

😆 happened more than once

[signal sparrow]

I remember spending a minute trying to open a window only for the lock to break lol the horde ended up catching up and munched on my noob character

[sinful geode]

first time I smashed all the keys trying to get that damn door opened only to realize the window was in reach and unlocked but way too late, died the noob-ish way

screamed into a towel that day

[signal sparrow]

😆

hope we can all feel like noobs again soon

[sinful geode]

yes

I so much enjoy venturing in the unknown that will be 42

ramping up that muscle strain only to ramble about it like most noobs on reddit

[frigid sapphire]

“be”? “42”? b42?? Guys it's a sign

[lean forge]

imagine vehicle animations in build 42

[signal sparrow]

"is siphoning gas bugged? Used to work in B41." Turns out we will need a hose or posts inquiring whether a certain feature was always vanillla or not

[lean forge]

Gas cans in game currently have a magical pump to syphon

[signal sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-skinner-principal-otto-gas-gif-25696128

[lean forge]

proper vehicle jammed highways rather than just seeing burnt cars

[novel plinth]

I like this idea

[lean forge]

sure looting and syphoning abandoned cars on the highway would add some nice use

even finding car parts for your car when you need it the most.

even zombieland had a couple of burnt car scenes on the highway.

[sinful geode]

such a nice addition compared to lifting an empty bottle at the gas tank and magically filling it with gasoline

also you won't get a car going so fast now

[signal sparrow]

would be pretty neat to find a crashed plane in some open field or something too

[sinful geode]

rural roads can benefit from more car congestions

at least at the edge of towns

presuming people tried to flee the urban chaos

[signal sparrow]

would be pretty sweet finding the Twinkies/Plonkies van among one of those car congestions

or somewhere really remote

[sinful geode]

yup maybe more remote

[lean forge]

having nice in game branded vehicles does add a nice touch

Taxi cars without the advertisement signs

hatchback car with pizza delivery sign maybe a livery to add use to Pizza Whirled.

[signal sparrow]

perhaps somewhere down the line: food trucks with a built-in popsicle fridge to better transport food sources

[sinful geode]

this is somewhat achievable with RV interior mods

you can place fridges inside and they are powered up by the car battery

must always leave the engine on otherwise the battery will drain

sometimes the space inside some vans will feel too big, making it unrealistic

but nonetheless a good mod for nomads and long journeys

[lean forge]

glad the swat van will be added

[sinful geode]

yeah let's hope the trunk will have increased capacity

bc atm it's too small for a van imo

[finite glacier]

the regular vans?

those things have SO much space lol

[signal sparrow]

Chevalier Step Van
capacity: 160
organized: 208
disorganized: 112

with the plethora of items being added to the game soon, would be great if they increased trunk space for all cars

[finite glacier]

how much does the best car ever have, the dash ranch dip?

[finite glacier]

NOOOOOo

i already have such a bad time not trying ot hoard lol

[signal sparrow]

dash ranch dip lol

[lean forge]

I avoid running over zombies so that the vehicle will last longer

[finite glacier]

more ranch dip colors!!!

[lean forge]

we need some ranch dip food item

[finite glacier]

wait what does it damage ur car lol

[signal sparrow]

damages car components if car speed exceeds 15mph iirc

def don’t wanna back into zombies b/c damaging the trunk lowers its capacity

[finite glacier]

i mean i know about the hood of car n stuff

lol i had something fall out of my trailer last night , first time i ever seen that before

"what was that noise" and i see my gas can being abandoned down the road

[lean forge]

would be nice if trailer could spawn more than just car wreck scenes

PZ logic of trunk lid damage causing items to fall out rather than leaving the trunk open

[signal sparrow]

running over zombies with a car should make the zombies linger on the hood

would be fun to transport a zombie that way from Brandenburg to LV

[lean forge]

car taking damage from small impacts logic and putting blood on it

trailer dealership and rental locations on the map for better spawns and conditions.

[signal sparrow]

lol shotguns and gas cans tend to jump out of our trailers the most for some reason
https://youtu.be/kUFQ03z6GhU?si=310xv6bhfKT7CelC

[finite glacier]

Yah my trailer is 11 %condition lol err was

[lean forge]

so that is what the sound of items falling out of vehicle

I have never seen any items fall out of any of my cars

[sinful geode]

if it's in bad condition yes

they do drop

[sinful geode]

yeah I think they must be below 15%

[finite glacier]

nice a new way to get rid of trash

[sinful geode]

this

also 160 units or kilos or whatever is not that much

the w900 semi trailer has 1000.....

[dull berry]

^ loot rarity too high problems

or low rather. not rare enuf

[finite glacier]

thats so much space lol , i tried one of those huge semi mods and uninstalled it , think i looted almost half the town with one

[sinful geode]

I'm talking about IRL simulation, a van usually can carry hundreds of kilos (units) especially if it has interior storage

[sinful geode]

I know I use it mostly for nomad runs

[dull berry]

yeah i hate when irl my engine goes out cos i have to hit hundreds of bodies on the way to loot the hardware store

[sinful geode]

don't know where you're aiming with that but it's nonsense

[vapid zenith]

Yeah theoretically you could fir like, an absurd more amount of ammo in an irl car than in zomboid

[dull berry]

im kidding around. but its a balancing thing it cant all be realistic cos like... its gotta feel right to play

[vapid zenith]

Who's stopping me from filling my minivan up to the ceiling with shotgun shells? God?

[sinful geode]

again nonsense

the game is trying to be as realistic as possible

[dull berry]

yeah video games r nonsense

now THATS nonsense

[vapid zenith]

Video game inventories will never be realistic in all honesty

Does it make sense that I can fit like 20 cabbages in my pockets? No, but it makes me happy

[sinful geode]

reminded me of Try Honestly, if you have Cedar Hil mod, your saves are probably doomed ;))

I guess you saw the reddit post

[dull berry]

a game having intricate crafting systems & deep mechanics doesnt mean its trying to be realistic, some things should be realistic where it counts but where it doesnt? like storage... lol

[signal sparrow]

perhaps a 30% capacity increase of current vanilla trunk capacity per vehicle would suffice given that there will be more heavier items (that we know of so far) and packaging/things in bulk to take back to base or craft

[dull berry]

irl someone whos malnourished cant lift a fridge just cos theyre naked

[vapid zenith]

I wouldn't be against that

Yes they can

[sinful geode]

of course man, you can't run around with a backpack with 200 kilos inside

[vapid zenith]

You clearly haven't tried to

[dull berry]

no i know ur bullshitting, speaking from experience

[vapid zenith]

When one is naked you can pick up anything

That's why the government orders us to wear clothes, they're afraid of our power

Obviously

[dull berry]

the govt orders u to wear clothes?

[sinful geode]

I agree with this

[dull berry]

same but i cant do reacts cos this discord, just like paddlefruits govt, is suppressing my expression

[toxic spruce]

The most common was the generators i put back there

One time i duplicated a generator like this

It bugged and dropped 2 when i put only 1 in the trailer

[vapid zenith]

Something I've thought of is that there are really two elements of how hard it is to carry something, size and weight

There's a mod that addresses both, inventory tetris, but I don't know if that's the most fun implementation

[sinful geode]

dismantling stuff in parts that weigh less

for storage management would be ok imo

[dull berry]

theyre kind of trying to do that with the weights tho, remember that its not actually real units. its just how hard it would be to carry stuff. vibes based

[vapid zenith]

I suppose

But in that case stuff like cabbages should have a much higher encumbrance

But again that's not super fun so I'm fine with the way it is

[finite glacier]

yah make them 20 lbs

[dull berry]

u also have to account for fun

[finite glacier]

or whatever 20 cucumbers

[sinful geode]

not all items are genuinely balanced in terms of weights

[dull berry]

we r a lil too much on the same page dude that was weird...

[vapid zenith]

Haha

[sinful geode]

significant difference between base capacity and organized

[dull berry]

i deffo feel like books should weigh less but i threw my back out carrying books so thats like, wish fulfillment honestly

[signal sparrow]

I mean if they do increase trunk capacity for each vanilla vehicle, maybe organized trait could get a nerf or cost more skill points

or maybe a 20% trunk capacity increase instead

[sinful geode]

it's ~25% increase

on the Chevalier

[vagrant idol]

inventory tetris gets annoying when carrying multiple of the same items, which in Zomboid is a necessity

Unturned and Escape from Tarkov's inventory grid is so bloatedly large that carrying multiple 1x1 objects gets unreasonably difficult unreasonably quickly

which could be addressed by having things stack, though that seems against the whole reasoning behind tetris inventory

[serene bough]

yk what’s stupid heavy

ripped sheets

[vagrant idol]

and reducing the grid size seems like a nightmare for UI visibility

[blissful rain]

i like the mod realistic inventory

its a nice revision of vanilla

basically, most items are labelled with a. weight and if you carry too much in inventory without a bag, you’ll drop those items

so you can’t carry more than like 3 cabbages in your hands at once

[finite glacier]

thats cool

[blissful rain]

sometimes you gotta carry things in your primary and secondary slots if you don’t got a bag

[versed kestrel]

we haven't had a lot of rain so the boys wanted to fill water dispensers

[finite glacier]

i was like what is that lol

OH is it the water dispener mod?

[versed kestrel]

yeee!

[serene bough]

i thought those were dumbbells

[versed kestrel]

haha

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2687798127

such a good one

[finite glacier]

yah i remember using that for a long time lol , realized you could fill it with gas , someone on my mp had it filleda nd i was like what the hell lmao is that apple juice?!

[versed kestrel]

🤣

I didn't know that you could do that

but makes sense

[finite glacier]

yeah lol , when i was trying to make the mp server harder i had to take that mod away from them

[versed kestrel]

ohhh yea that makes sense

[vapid zenith]

Won't we be able to fill water dispensers with all fluids, like hair dye?

Epic prank montage incoming

[fluid trench]

rat poison in the water

Unbelievable!

[serene bough]

2 more weeks

[signal sparrow]

4200+ messages for the 10K message count

[dull berry]

note to self to look thru vids later to see if theres new fluorescent lights and/or hanging lights

[sinful geode]

I like this, didn't know of it until now

[serene bough]

i had it once and it broke my game for some reason

[sinful geode]

didn't it just released on the workshop?

[serene bough]

idk maybe this specific one then

[burnt bronze]

Been there since 2021 according to the change log

[sinful geode]

ahh If I recall, duck talked about it in one of his recent vids but I just fast forwarded that bit

[fluid trench]

The indie stone founded in 2099

2009*

[sinful geode]

yup, you're right

[serene bough]

dec 20 2021

[signal sparrow]

N3na3

[sinful geode]

have you seen the new scandal with Cedar Hill mod ?

[serene bough]

u just said mint in arabic

[fluid trench]

InsomniumWolf

[serene bough]

and ppl still say “mods do the same thing devs add”😂

[sinful geode]

that's a serious situation

[signal sparrow]

where can I find this Cedar Hill mod scandal?

[sinful geode]

reddit

[fluid trench]

Source I request it.

[serene bough]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/SBJhb8zSUy

[fluid trench]

Thanks hyppie.

[serene bough]

who

[signal sparrow]

lol

[sinful geode]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/s/nGnR8F7Ena

too slow 😭

[fluid trench]

Thanks Darkness.

[serene bough]

darkie

[sinful geode]

they guy's insane 😦

serious mental issues

[fluid trench]

Okay I read it, the guy sucks.

[sinful geode]

everything is on Reddit, even if you want or don't want it, it's there

[signal sparrow]

negative people being the most vocal once again. Sad to hear the mod author let those comments get under their skin and then resorted to this

[sinful geode]

never, take for instance all the primitive survival mods that enables some crafting possibilities, they will never compare to the crafting overhaul coming, sure you cand make thread and twine with mods but it's not the same as using a spinning wheel, etc

[sinful geode]

I had some of his tiles pack and they were nice but seeing this makes me rethink that mod list

[fluid trench]

there was a mod that enhances the vanilla game tiles

Enhanced Vanilla Tiles I think.

[sinful geode]

I had that but it conflicted with the Building Menu mod

and I haven't checked recently if the issues have been resolved

[sinful geode]

take some tainted water in a bottle and add it later to those dispensers ;))

[versed kestrel]

[serene bough]

i wonder if the testers are youtubers who will have vids prepared

[true venture]

Doubt it to be honest

Don't see why they wouldn't mention that

[limpid shore]

"Alright guys, our client Bob has requested a total makeover of his safehouse; currently he has 1 escape rope, and that is unacceptable! Me and our team are going to add 3 more escape routes and clean up his storage problem in 7 hours!"

[finite glacier]

lol that would be cool

"i require some newly patchwork made curtains"

[polar venture]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233073448515797032/1233076638191718410/mematicMeme.gif

[signal sparrow]

48 days until 2025

[sinful geode]

just scratch that itch and ask away

you know you want to

[polar venture]

not really, the gif is just pretty funny 😂

[lean forge]

17 days until December

[sinful geode]

12 more minutes until 01:00 in my timezone

[lean forge]

14 days until the November blog post arrives

2 thursdoids left in 2024

[signal sparrow]

2.8 seconds until a Discord user finishes reading this message

[sinful geode]

:))

took me 1 min to find discord in tray

[signal sparrow]

PZ community gonna do a New Update countdown rather than a New Year countdown

[lean forge]

I pray we get to play build 42 this year.

[serene bough]

i know i want a release date but i also know its not good for my patience

[long dew]

2.554 seconds until 2.554 seconds from now

[serene bough]

by the time i read now it’s 2.134 seconds

[finite glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cast-target-bar-world-of-warcraft-gif-13853971

[signal sparrow]

-11451 days since Friday, the ninth of July, 1993

my bad. I meant -989,334,881 seconds and counting

[versed kestrel]

elvui?

[finite glacier]

[versed kestrel]

❤️

[hidden talon]

Estimated Time of Arrival: <t:1735707600:R>

I set the date to New Year's Eve.

I choose when to release my mixtape.

[serene bough]

need to pin it

ohh NNNNNAAAAAASSSSSSSSKKKKOOOOOO

[serene bough]

thinking about it, cooking overhaul shpuld update how u even cook

instead of sticking everything into the oven stoves should be useable

maybe even a custom ui

[sullen coral]

we need to burn our hands when we take freshly cooked food out of the oven with our bare hands

why does oven mitt exist

[fluid trench]

Our characters are chef at heart

[sullen coral]

fire proof hands

[blissful rain]

we should have to use cooking trays too

or sticks over campfires

or some sort of makeshift grill

[blissful rain]

don’t have a tray gives a reason to use BBQ

[lament osprey]

maybe add backpacking stoves, like the old portable stoves coleman and other companies used to make, I know there were some fairly small propane ones back then as well

[blissful rain]

ooh i didnt know they existed but thats a really good idea

[sinful geode]

cooking is fairly basic atm and I believe a revamp is far away probably post b42

[lament osprey]

Yeah, I used to have one, they're not super expensive second hand compared to the newer ones, love my jetboil though

[serene bough]

yeah i love holding a pot of boiling water😂when i first played pz i wouldn’t take it out bc i assume why put in all the work to show its burning, it prob will do something

[fluid trench]

Not to mention our characters can drink boiling hot water straight off the stove from the pot and be perfectly fine

[lean forge]

PZ logic

drinking from a toilet logic and not getting sick

[fluid trench]

Freshly installed toilet

[vapid zenith]

Burning hands on a hot pot without gloves would be a fantastic PZ addition

I feel it fits in line with the rest of the 'stupid' mistakes

[fluid trench]

eating bugs

[sullen coral]

i wonder why nobody made a mod that adds more logic in some situations

[true venture]

Well that's not vague

[mental token]

We're drinking from the cistern, not the bowl.

[lean forge]

how clean is the cistern it could be dirty

drinking animation looks like the player is drinking from the toilet bowl.

[serene bough]

like in the might need a lighter or smth mod u can burn ur hand when using other methods.

In b42 you’ll be able to light cigarettes using stuff other than matches and lighters so i hope they also add the risk

[finite glacier]

Probably cleaner than the bowl of the piss cup im guessing

[lean forge]

how is the player getting safe water from this toilet lol

[fleet ferry]

It will never not be funny. I want a mod where my survivor sticks their head in the bowl and laps it up like a dog.

[finite glacier]

Its aerated water ghost gosh

[lean forge]

we cant even collect water from showers

[fleet ferry]

I hope we can use tubs or barrels as baths in the future. I feel gross going a day without bathing. I can't imagine how my survivor feels.
Hopefully that will be a nice mid to late crafting goal is plumbing a hot bath or shower.

[lean forge]

would be nice to fill a bathtub to clean ourselves

so far having to make barrels to have a renewable source of water to clean and drink.

I remember playing the last stand dead zone and this was an interesting water collector.

[finite glacier]

I like the graphic style of that

[lean forge]

Vegetable gardens in the last stand dead zone were fun to build and added nice touches to the base.

[sinful geode]

Agree, the water system needs a little reworking

[lean forge]

spiffo was murdered in the last stand dead zone

[scarlet garnet]

The last stand dead zone is a game i still miss to this day. I used to play it daily on facebook. Sadly the game didnt launch anywhere else and it got discontinued off fb

[lean forge]

2021 was the year TLSDZ servers went down

some people tried to create a fan server to restore old online games

[sinful geode]

They lack animations which can be added via a mod

I will check the list and see If I have it installed

[signal sparrow]

this is what we need in PZ

[signal sparrow]

also, I found this the other day. Seems like it’s rare to see an orange raccoon depicted on products

[lean forge]

since racoons are in build 42 I wonder if we could make some raccoon hats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coonskin_cap

[signal sparrow]

chicken hat from a chicken named Jay

[finite glacier]

Where can you find that

[long dew]

when drinking from a toilet you are not drinking from the bowl. The tank on the back of the toilet has potable water

[blissful rain]

drinking from a public bathroom sink and not getting 50 diseases might be unrealistic

[abstract summit]

at this point the countdowns are one in the same

[strong depot]

I agree I need that

[strong depot]

Pray to Spiffo

[versed kestrel]

Spiffo be praised 🙏

[strong depot]

I can't wait until next thursdoid

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

[versed kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26526118

[lean forge]

2 thursdays left this month lol

[fluid trench]

A time paradox will occur and the month will go past the 31th day

[mental token]

Everybody prepare for the Thanksdoid!

[signal sparrow]

not until this news discussion channel reaches 7K+ messages (maybe 10K)

[pliant eagle]

i think we're getting b42 as a christmas present at this point

[sinful geode]

may the dev gods hear you

[sullen coral]

we need to pray

[fluid trench]

Santa is going to break into our apartment at night, and drop off B42

[slim bane]

Are there any plans or changes to annotated maps with b42? In b41 they feel so unrewarding

[signal sparrow]

they’re gonna add more clothing, weapons, and recipe magazines to the loot tables so I’m sure the locations the annotated maps lead us to will be far more interesting and varied than what we currently have

[cursive fulcrum]

I've made them even more unrewarding

[frigid sapphire]

Hell yeah, I've been saying “we need treasure maps that lead us to a single sock”

[fluid trench]

1 ripped sheet is of utmost value

[polar venture]

did you add more world building to compensate? 🥺 👉 👈

[lunar tangle]

newspaper ouhh... lore.....

feed us worldbuilding and subtle story telling......

another 150 subtle foreshadowing of the knox virus' origins

[glad burrow]

Cryogenic winter whilst starting in november is difficult to say the least

[cursive fulcrum]

Not to compensate. To punish.

[cursive fulcrum]

That's why I gets the big bucks

[polar venture]

Even better! 😄

[versed kestrel]

We are pushing into March Ridge for food before we start moving to WestPoint

[finite glacier]

Lemme know who dies in death ridge lol

[versed kestrel]

[hushed prairie]

does anyone else think that the 2012 grey version of Spiffo looked way better

[fluid trench]

distant family member

[versed kestrel]

Spiffo's cousin Spuffo

I do enjoy the grey version though

[finite glacier]

i like the orange one but wheres more jacques

[hushed prairie]

b42 may be closer than one might think

[fluid trench]

Seriously???

[hushed prairie]

i dont know

[fluid trench]

Are you gaslighting me.......

[hushed prairie]

i am gas farting

[fluid trench]

Screw you!

[hidden talon]

I am here gas pumping....

https://tenor.com/view/uhhhhh-gif-18728531

[versed kestrel]

One death so far

[finite glacier]

Lmao, eggactly

Thats place is cursed!!

[versed kestrel]

So we kept getting zombies cutting us off from the main group so I decided to do what any sane person would and throw a broken police car at them and turn the siren on lol

this horrifies the noobs

[sinful geode]

how's the fps ;))?

[sinful geode]

the old chair strategy I see

[versed kestrel]

😁

[versed kestrel]

few stutters but honestly not that bad

on my older computer it would have been worse

[blissful rain]

if you take them all on at once instead of individually you’ll be finished much quicker

[versed kestrel]

of course

🙂

[blissful rain]

this has been your daily tip, come back tomorrow for more!

[versed kestrel]

trying to teach the new guys how to fight larger hordes but not overwhelm them

[finite glacier]

become the stomperson!!

[hidden talon]

Soooo, less than 2 weeks for the next Thursdoid.

Gimme more beta tester feedback quotes! 😄

But maybe we should change it a bit and see some constructive criticisms to Build 42.

As in, feedback that are negative in the current state.

[cursive fulcrum]

"It's a pile of shite"

[finite glacier]

lol

shit on ashingle

[versed kestrel]

beta tester says "I can't live!" then Pat says "git good"

[finite glacier]

is this the lochness monster?

or another nunya bidness lol

[versed kestrel]

had second death lol

[finite glacier]

lol

rest in reeses pieces

[versed kestrel]

considering they are mostly super fresh they are doing quite well with the large hordes

[glad burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916231280675397652/1307558765880410264/All_thumbs.mp4?ex=673abe7f&is=67396cff&hm=1a1cd5240e47503848cff9adfbd4bbe96d88b67d6724bacb924ff15d11372da0&