#Hallodoid
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Does suck to see people make up conspiracy theories and the like, but that's just the internet lol
Also, not saying that radio silence can't be the right approach
Depends on a lot of factors
I think it could be better for my mental health lol
Lot less enjoyable tho
yea i get their patience waning, but i mean specifically the ones that can just never wait yk? like autmoatically never have patience and just yell at the devs for nuthin lmao. but i do greatly appreciate the non silence yk? y'all seem to do what u can to keep the community updated atleast here n there yk? radio silence sometimes makes sense for devs to give themself a break too, if u go too hard for too long and never give urself a break you'll burn out, not refine stuff as nicely etc
Personally I'm a big fan of communication. If PZ didn't have that but had the same release frequency my interaction with the game would be a lot different
Not everyone is a loon, too, wouldn't have been with the game and community for this long if I didn't enjoy it, but they do get on your nerves and it's impossible to tune out of them
And yeah, personally I really hope we can bring back some bite-sized content drops between bigger builds again, but it has to be feasible, and for 41 and 42 it simply wasn't
yea that makes sense, those are like really big updates
Erm, I don't think a single byte is enough for content nasko
What if it's one byte of feet
I'm sold
Feet update confirmed
the indie game store
feet update in build 69 frfr
it is dependent on skill, YOUR skill
🤦
I am so hyped for 2028 b42 release.
A fun middle ground could be an automated task that can be sped up with a mini game
Go away, they suck
i would like a mix of skill minigame and skill check
Can confirm that.
Source: am using Windows
even a bar with a "good" zone would be better than just a skill check
good zone gets bigger when you have higher skill/the bar moves slower
Barotrauma does that, the bar fills by itself, but you can QTE it to go faster. If you mess up you get electrocuted/burned.
could do lockpicking like kingdom come deliverance, it's minigame based but the chance of finding and holding the correct spot is depended on skill, kinda like cat said
i do not like the post fallout 3 Bethesda lockpicking system
oblivion was good but too tedious
Yeah, I'm sure the devs know enough examples to come up with a good idea
but just clicking on a door with the lockpicking skill and seeing a text box that says
LOCKPICKING:
FAILED
LOCKPICKING:
FAILED
LOCKPICKING:
FAILED
LOCKPICKING:
SUCCESS
aint it
however i will still smash doors down with hammers if it's not an area i intend on staying
reading what the tester says, he has never played with the "pitch dark" option on PZ, I personally always play like this, torches in this way have a utility
waverly hills is in Louisville, does this mean Louisville is getting an expansion??
that’d be awesome i didn’t know that before
New question flowers
new question tile
Best update ever
defo better than the old one
idk
It is questioning its existance
i think it just gave up FINDING its true existance(right tile)
it accepted itself as it is, truly inspirational❤️
true
i found that lamp in gloomwood 😭 genuinely had no clue it was real
Has anyone tried enabling every b41 mod in existence in one game?🤔
no because it would destroy everything
Yah they kinda sucked lol
Just read the Thursdoid, holy shit the lighting, sound and new fog of war is night and day! Very impressed Indie Stone. ❤️
i didnt miss out i presume
also congrats on indie stone for locking the discussions of the update, clever.
my brother did, and lets just say that computer never unfroze
Xant remember if the one we had was also touch lamp, those were so popular back then lol
This sounds like a skill check with a chance of failure though?
Now get snakes and hydrocraft and 10 years later to work

id like to imagine that the lighting system in these demonstrations is set to normal, imagine the gameplay in pitch dark
yeah im saying it sucks
Oh sorry, got names mixed up
theres about a hundred of them in the library scene in se7en
Thought it was someone saying they hate mini games and skill checks 😅
i wonder who is "awaiting" for weapon's condition to deter its performance?
if the skill is way beyond yours its literally impossible
just jumping from one side to the other
thats one of my fav movies !
Good job on the lighting Indie Stone. Game is looking gorgeous.
All the towns look way better man, just from these shots alone it feels like another map entirely
just make the lock picking minigame a sandbox option
personally ive had enough lockpicking minigames for a century, id rather just a skill check
but i understand why someone would want to play with one (which is why a mod for it exists)
This is far too optimistic

My question is does the new lighting mean night darkness settings are no longer a thing? cos if that was standard darkness it seemed plenty pitch black, though maybe moonlight will play a role there
Moonlight
Werewolves when
aaah gotcha
lol yes were getting wearwolves
They will quote you on this

Pls I want so many rats in my home
The darkness stuff looks so good actually. I'm curious how it behaves with Cat's Eye now
Cat’s eyes basement burglar gameplay is gonna go crazy
@elder sandal I hope Cats Eyes and Keen Hearing will play a big role with how dark the areas will be without a flashlight 🎃😱
how does that include @ing nasko😭
Never hurts 🙂
Please if will not this month, than says something like "it will not be released this month for sure" in December, and I feel it will be finally released.
😁
I have to be correct one of these months
Well than I hope will be this month
My laptop is quite old, Will B42 affect the performance negatively?
Thecnically the opposite
The baseball flyer shown says "American food". Stadiums in the US only really serve hotdogs, hamburgers, etc. (Unless they are the super big ones then they can have multiple stores inside them) The flyer shouldn't specify American food, as that isn't a phrase often used in American english at all
They improved performace for what I understood through a system that take better 2d and 3d elements in to account, and they said this should help.
But is also true that there is much code to take in to account.
For example RM 1.5 received several performace tweaks from 1.4, but for various reasons you don't feel it very much and according with some tester performance was reduced form 1.4.
Anyway I think that if B41 work Thant also 42 should...But I leave thr answer to more competent people
Ideally it should be better performance due to not having to redraw the tiles every second like it currently does
It seems a great improvement
I am pretty excited ☺️
With regards to the lighting changes, are there any plans to implement additional graphic options such as gamma adjustment and such? I know a fair number of games also feature some kind of graphic benchmark that allows users to adjust their settings until they line up with the conditions the devs intended their game to be played under (Ie, Hunt: Showdown uses "Adjust settings until logo is barely visible," where the logo is a slightly different shade of black from the background).
I'm probably one of the very few players still playing on a CRT monitor, and I already find myself relying on flashlights in dark situations with B41. And while I'm excited for all the lighting changes, I'm also genuinely worried about how playable things will be with my setup.
Me too, my actual PC isn't too performant, if trow it out of the window and I attach the monitor to a potato probably I would get better fps.
So I like this.
Potato powered PZ 💪
project potato
"Adjust until this one is barely visible" is indeed a common tuning device devs use
It's really the best option to get the right results out of every PC screen there is
Okay, for basic context, I've been following the game for a very long time, and always speak highly of it to anyone who'll listen, but I'm generally not a person who speaks publically on the internet. I have a social anxiety about doing so at all, let alone with bad vibes in tow, so please bear that in mind. With that said, I'd like to object to the 'banjo' poster because I really don't think objectifying people based on their gender is the type of thing I want to see in the game, and I'm shocked and appalled that it got to the stage of being shown in a dev diary like this, because it's so antithetical to what I expect from the Zomboid team insofar as what type of content is in the game.
... I really don't want to be the bearer of bad vibes, but I've definitely been hurt by this, and very much feel this sort of thing bears speaking against.
Banjo poster?
At the bottom of the recent dev diary, one of the in-game posters is about a 'banjo' band.
What’s wrong the banjo band?
i’m so confused
Fr I don’t get or see the problem
are you trying to say the boys are banjos cuz all i can see is that it’s a boy band that use banjos
at the same time if for example guns are banned today then they aren’t gonna ban guns in the game bc it’s in the 90s lol so in general today’s stuff dont matter if that’s how it was back then to capture the feel for 90s kentucky
Okay, I'm trying to speak indirectly since I don't really want to spell it out for my own mental health's sake. The poster refers to people- cough The poster markets that the presence of people of a gender is a reason you should come to their music show, so to speak.
Yes.
Women?
back then that’s exactly how it was
I see no issue with it
That's definitely not true, nor does that change how it comes across to a modern audience.
don't see an issue being authentic to the times
well we(women) would go to those bar thingies cause beer was usually half off or admission was free
you’re a woman?😂
im puppers
oh i see

I think I understood what you mean, but I think that was also others time, I see it as "a way to tells a story of how things was".
And I think they did it without intention to harm anyone, I'm sorry anyway if this damaged you.
i wouldn’t necessarily say country music an object anyways
so is it really objectifying women
I appreciate your empathy.
if the list weren’t even objects
especially here they do not tolerate that stuff in the community whatsoever
That's why this feels so off, the fact that it feels against Zomboid's standards for being an inclusive game, culturally.
tbf i don’t see how you didn’t draw the line with HottieZ
i mean theres strip club and theres male and female naughty magazines in the game but i dont think its ill intent
Feels like ‘Merica
Fr who isn’t an avid hottiez collector?
lowkey tho anything offensive in the game blame Patrick!!! he’s the american
wheres our firefighter calanders
PZ is a game about a zombie apocalypse. In the 90s Kentucky, USA. Where you now kill former living humans, where you will kill live NPCs in later builds, doing ungodly horrible things to them or even animals. I'd rather not see the game's quality suffer because some people wants it to lose the authenticity for the sake of "inclusivity" in a game where hell has broken loose.
LOL did u just call pat american
It was not done with any intent to be offensive
Posters did have phrases like that on them, especially for bars and pubs, some of them still do for music nights and things.
Women and Men go to Banjo nights all the time, its just a phrase of speech for the times and the place its set in
(It wasn't done in any way be offensive, as a Woman myself Im struggling to see how it is offensive to be honest)
90s posters like this are what they would 'fly poster' with
You would basically go out on a night and paste them anywhere you could to get it seen 😄
oh lol what other pat
one of the software team ppl
wait till u realize they use the same account
don’t know who’s occupying it
i get confused with zryton and ateireon lol
Ayrton
ayrton and atieron
true especially mappers to credit their work
would be cool though for like grafitie stuff like l4d has
Could I eat the map?
like this in some places would be cool
There are some of those on some of the walls here and there in 41 already I think (The cryptic graffiti messages)
i love them!!
I am petitioning the EU to allow Pat_Bren graffiti in game but no luck so far
😆
It would be so cool if we could add our own graffiti to the game
be like nasko and make some sick newspapers and posters and channels and maybe you can have graffiti
Nah I ate all my spray paint
I'll be leaving now, since I knew I'd be as much hurt by indifference over the issue as the issue itself, wanted just to speak out and then leave rather than stick around, and have only done so because I don't want to be rude after bringing bad vibes into a conversation. I understand the lack of intent, but I don't see how that relates to the issue; sexism is universally understood to be 'not the best', and negligence being the cause doesn't decrease the harm it does to people. I'd like to specifically refute saradain's statement; there is a massive and crucial difference between a game that has a dark world and one that attacks it's players, in a way that will follow them after the game has been put away.
What
Bro is pressed about a poster that had no intent and isn’t even bad.
What poster is he upset about?
Could I eat a banjo?
I don't know how to say this any nicer, but let the mods decide whether it is appropriate to say: Since you use the wording "modern audience", I can recall some few games from recent past that were explicitly made for the "modern audience" according to their developers. And those games no longer exist, or flopped entirely. I'd rather not let PZ end up as those few games because it was made with ideals of a small minority who imagined they are the vast majority.
Now, I also do not think PZ is excluding anyone, it is a game with a story concerning a slightly earlier time period, with the atmosphere and setting matching the "old times".
K bye
yeah i dont want to say the wrong thing and upset anyone either, but it was really common to see that type of stuff and it was kind par tof 90s culture
STOP
They are gone nothing can be done
Don't let this person go to any country place they will be offended
What’s wrong with it
so we have to say sorry and remove it or else it’s indifferent
like this was a common symbol back then
What was even the context, I tabbed in here and saw a bunch of talk about "modern audience" and "issues".
They don't exist
W-W-WOMEN?!?!??
if no one thinks it’s wrong then just don’t open the poster urself
GULP
Don't tell them about strip clubs
He would have a heart attack
I mean look I'm as liberal as they get and I find this a bit silly
Okay devs to compensate you need to add a version that says "men" now
or how you can pick women in character select
Make a chipendales
The mudflaps on trucks I remember seeing her on alot
I don't like when my fave characters may die in a game, but I don't come to demand their fate to be changed, I take it as intended experience
YEAH!! lol
i love those , there was also devil stickers those were sick 
Sorry not allowed
i love this gif
god damnit
Era? This is literally what country is
not american either but if I play GTA, country radio channel is the only thing I'll listen to
90s country was so good lol
i love country musicc
americans with their fiddles and banjos
Tennessee Ernie Ford and Bing Crosby are some of my favourites
i grew up in wyoming and it was just everywhere and my parents always went to little wahtever theyre called now lol
with hay
is Wyoming in america?
ya lol
awesomee
your parents went to...barns??
funnily enough im off to go see a country band rn see y’all later
lol yeah thats where they would hold music thingies
never seen a barn big enough to accomodate enough people for a concert, but then they say everything the in US is bigger
they would be like that and people would hold music and dances there , i barely remember i just remember hay
always would go to them on weekends
I see enough hay for a lifetime in a day because I have 2 baby loppy ear bunnies
the hay certainly never stays fully within where its supposed to stay...
lol bun buns , i had guineapig and yes the HAY NEVER stayed in the hay spot
wonder if we can keep the bun buns in pz
well I noticed my buns like to lay down to rest in exact same position as the 3D sprites for rabbit corpses in PZ
wait what does that look like, just flat?
Stew
Bunny burgers
Party in the old Thursdoid post: https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1030198781288906902
lol
Well now they'll know bro
You're like kotaku when someone wants to release a romhack for a Nintendo game and then it gets fucking shut down
Ngl but I hate cooking with rabbit, They fucking hum ding 😄
Lol whats humding
Humding nuts
Stinks to the high heavens
Oh lol , kinda liek ground turkey smells so gross to me
I lost my appetite as one of my baby buns just decided to pee on the bed that is in the wife's work room
keep your filthy meat, buns
Really? Ground turkey just smells like meat to me
Kinda, Its like how turkey/chicken smells like ammonia farts when it goes bad, Rabbit's smell like pure death when they're fresh even
Ewlol
Yah i do t like it its horrible
Very 🤔 Gamey indeed lol
I put some cumin on the ground turkey, helps it taste a bit more beefy
spiced armpit
When I used to eat bread, Turkey & stuffing sandwiches with cranberry sauce were always good
😂
awh tukery sammiches with cran sauce is so good!!
Yeah they are 😄
Who knew fruit and meat could be so good together lol
right , like pork and apples or pork and and pineapple? i forget lol
Both of those for sure 😄
Gammon steak with a pineapple rings and fried eggs is like a traditional pub meal here
oh that sounds delish, i had to google the word gammon never heard of that.. never even would have thought to add pineapple ring and fried egg to i tthat would be so good
Seriously is so good, one of my faves here
You add chips and peas on the side too
gonna try this lol
I need to know what you think when you do 😄
yah , were getting a ham for thanksgiving so ill let you know lol
Noice, Oooo now thats fancy, Could Make it a whole new part of your thanksgiving dinner lol
heall yeah !! guys were having chips, peas and pinepapples!!!
Make sure they are regular peas and not mushy peas.
Mushy peas are banned! 🤢
Mushy peas are something they usually have on the side of your fish and chips, never been a fan 😄
how do i playtest :(
you don't unless they know you well
it’s not a sign up
if only it was that easy
15 euros?
no im american
that’s why ur not playtesting
14,15 USD as of right now with sale going on, up to 15 USD I'd say
that has nothing to do with it
ok ok, up to 21,13 USD if direct conversion, at most
dogging on americans while playing a game set in america and based on american culture is wild
being american is not a VIP pass tho
yeah but the french deserve it
or 2 years at worst😄
i dont get it lol
and canadians
they gave hot green lady
that one i get cause leon sux
and dont even get me started on french canadians
@kind imp leons french canadian
so you get 2 years to hoard survival tools in your doomsday bunker to play PZ in, that's great
she was bronze
wait is that who our statue is from lol
brown metal
rofl "brown metal"
learn oxidization
lol
ya a gift
minecrzft
thats great lol
why didn’t they just right click the statue with wax to stop oxidizing
true!
woukldnt it melt
why don't we need to visit the statue as source of copper to make power lines to make indoor lighting work again
rofl
i was like what lmao
true the statue is hoarding the world’s copper😢
Chile is the top copper producer in the world.
I don't know what happened to Puppers but butters is something else
How is acting for south Park doing for you
One day I hope my grandchildren
have the opportunity to play build 42.
I'm sure Steam may allow us to keep the games we purchased
even in distant future
can't guarantee legacy branches being available though, but build 69 is gonna be lit
TIS will have enough budget to make horse balls shrink in the cold by build 69
Man I had a couple of friends bring that up in a discussion on AAA gamedev costs ballooning.
I feel like it's something that artists whipped up from just a bit of downcycles that spread around the office quickly when someone else found out about it, then became its own advertisement for the game

lol
I hope for the little swines as well
ook but i need to know the mystery of the sneaky pie slice lol
Pie
it’s rat bait
I heard you need to offer pumpkin pie from time to time so the wendigo skeleton doesn't break things in your safehouse
skinwalkers confirmed b45?
But i ate all my pie tins how will i make more pie
just leave a pumpkin carved with the numbers 3.14 and you’ll be fine
🔵 offer pumpkin spice, everything nice; forget in autumn air, your lungs turn into pears
they look so cool fr
They're not. 😕 That is why pineapple on pizza is bad.
new rosewood looks beautiful
and bacon wrapped dates, which are only edible because they are covered in bacon
nuh uhhhh
dates are good with walnuts shoved in them
Your missing out 😄
Apple with pork
Pineapple with Gammon
Cranberry with Turkey
Maple Bacon
Chicken with Honey
Chefs Kiss 🤌 💋
apple, chicken and bacon ✨
I hope the skeleton animals, while not part of the vanilla game as established in blog, will at least be an optional or workshop entry or something
They look really cool
if a system like that is ever implemented, it should be default enabled for 0-2 boarded up windows
for what
so you could peek through the boards up close
you could
0-2 you can, 3 barricades block vision
yeah, but entities can currently see through passable barricades at any range
oh zeds yeah that’s cooked
I want cheese and crackers stirfry
well idk if they ac can for 3 barricades

🎉
We need frames to frame our enployee animals of the farm
Things are looking better and better. Soooo looking forward to the next update!
Just so you guys know where this house is currently
gonna take a lot more than a little community spirit to fix it up
not a bad house once you put some furnishings into that house
20K for a house back then its like 1940s house prices
cant wait for all the buildings to get overhauled
and 2 story lol
shouldn't a house back then be in the 100K range
party’s over. They closed all the old news and mod spotlight threads 
cant wait to find these new weapons
90K could be logical for house prices back in 90s
whyd they add retracted model too this is why we dont have b42 rn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nice to have a switchblade , butterfly knife,
tire iron melee weapon since the lug wrench with the X shape cant be used as a weapon
prison shank weapons should be found at prisons and be crafted.
Yay my favorite spot has a road name!!!
well that was exhausting
Homeward boubd realestate lol
friend recently got into PZ so I thought I would show them MP, went to start up the ol' server (with new world) and I was getting wrong username and password error - after hours of trying to figure it out I ended up backing up the .db file and nuking it and am able to log on it
then they do the old "maybe this game aint for me" and never play again
I hope not
Lol
i got my cousin into it but i made the mistake of telling him about b42 and all the huge changes and hes the type that stops playing till updates come out lol
the hilarious bit is, I actually bought the game for him...
Happens, pz is hard one of my close criends cant get into it
mod
I find that so weird because why not use that time to play, see what you like and dont like to have some basis to compare to once 42 comes out
that's what I told my buddy!
I told him to just play it, a lot will be changing but you will still need to git good to be able to do most of it
so might as well start now
Yah, i know pz isnt for everyone but maybe something that prevents people from playing now 42 will change that
true
well his logic is why experience it when you can play the better version first time
I guess thats fine if youre just the type to want to play and not i guess give feedback n stuff , so makes sense in a way
gonna have to wait longer since he doesnt play singleplayer so i gotta wait for mp lol
prob mid 2025
by that logic he might want to wait till the game is done and all the DLCs are out because it will keep on being a "better" version till they stop working on it
lol
well its more like waiting when the update is close
yea
I have been holding off hosting a server for the boys cause I have been waiting till the update came out but a few are getting the itch
myself included
I especially want them to play the new stuff and worried they will get burnt out if we play now
but because unstable will be SP only to start I think it should be fine I guess
Could use the time to try different settings to see what will worl best for you guys, was kind bummed mp isnt coming out but after thinking about it gives us all timw to test things for servers
The 5000 chicken farm
I think I mostly dialed in the settings for us last time we played, might tweak them a bit
it's the mods that keep changing cause new stuff has come out since we last did a playthrough
we should talk about the first things we will do fr
just loaded in the world first goal
Find the wild west town with ny chicken francis chivkenwing the 3rd
realistically im gonna be spending 3 hours in the trait screen and advanced sandbox options lol
When B41 went stable the first thing I did was do thing like test if microwaves and TV could still be used as forever barricades cause I was annoyed that people kept suggesting it to new players
Oh yeah ahahha lije a mmo creating ur char for 4 hra
Think first thing i did was checkout the unlock all clothing lol
i hope actually new traits
I feel there will be
a lot of them will be just reworks though
which is also fine
i dont think there was any mention
I said this last time it went on sale, but I am tempted to buy the 4pack of PZ, 3 for people I know and one for a second account of mine so I can admin while I play
pretty much 2 copies free
yea for sure
youll prob be tempted every time lol
that if you feel youre gonna do it ONE DAY might as well now to get the most of it
haha
would be useful if friends got back into it (they want to play with the buddy who hasn't played MP yet)
pat bren is not a blue bloodded amerrican....??

Lol
what town should I make us start in, we did rosewood last time
start in westpoint if your teammates are experienced
muldraugh.
Go for crossroads mall
I kind of want to push us into LV cause most of them have never been there
part of me wants us to spawn there but I know it would be too much for the new players
Hehehe
have each friend or one new + experienced player pair spawn in different towns then try to find each other
I kind of proposed that the last time we played and the idea was shot down pretty quick haha
I like it though
I think it would work well given the chance
riverside
Bradenbu—oh wait. Nvm


epic metal bat
we did a riverside playthrough as well at one point
maybe we will do Muldraugh again as it has been a long time and is pretty central
once the noobs get comfy I can push us to go to westpoint
I hope your buddies stick around! I’ve heard players back away from PZ due to the steep learning curve 
Me too, yea it definitely happens! 
it's especially rough when you go through all the time and energy to setup a server
I hope that they streamline the process a bit (especially when dealing with mods), even with the server modmanager it is still such a pain
Wilderness
Do we have battery chargers yet (not car batteries)
all Wilder from the start, get to.see the new crafting in action
ah yeah I imagine and having to see what mods are compatible or not. I remember reading that they’d address that in the next update.
also, good thing they have you to guide them b/c dying so many times surely discourages newer players
West Point also try Dirkerdam
from daddiedirkiedirk
it's huge
almost LV and Raven combined
Dirkerdam is over the river but it's imense you won't finished it by the time b42 will be out, if it's still on for 2024
don't know if they planned that
probably not or with mods
Yes it is painful untill the mods are loaded and installed correctly
No you silly boy

same, first digest and devour all the new settings and traits, playtime can come later
nothing better than tweaking the sandbox settings to your liking
This time around it was just an issue of loading the server over and over and finding all the delisted/removed mods since we last played as a group 
One at a time
when b42 ?
everyone ask “when B42?” but not “how B42?”
insomniac,,,
B42 is a framework of our Video game
it is a Code Soup prepared by the developer chefs at The Indie Game Store(restaurant) for us to digest
I had a thought. With the new lighting system and people having to navigate in the dark: Will the ingame map be blacked out when there's no light for the player?
why dont we ask who's B42?
me.
haii
thats actually a really great question, maybe if you had a lighter on hand the map would be lit up by flickering light of the flame
or a flash light's light
and then u accidently burn the map
fantastic
in the middle of nowhere
Its not that deep, you're overthinking it
Worry about things like making sure you pay your bills and have enough for groceries, not dumb game stuff like that that is authentic to the 90s anyway
I also fail to see whats wrong with it
they left the server btw
I really hope B42 will come out this year. In some form.
Odd dude
N3na3
InsomniumWolf

Insomnia wolf
read this
read nasko's reply, especially the last part about B42
the answer for everyone asking about it, it's there in plain sight
yes, 2024 if everything goes well
2024™
december 2024
thank you detective
im so excited for the new weapons system, so unbelievably excited
its like 90% short blunt rn
theres only 2 long blades!!
the machete being so damn strong is the only thing stopping it from being a useless skill
i like the idea of long blades being like the end game weapons
the strongest ones
also more depth to spears will be really nice
Muldgrag
when would b42 stable release
soon™
Not until thr sun rises in the west and sets in the east
when sun will blow up
when the sunballz shines ots brightestest
december 32th
perfect
so people can download and create a new world but not see any of the new content
i know how to fully release pz
we create a zombie virus using prime and lunchly, make a time machine and set it to july 9th 1993, go to kentucky and open container with the virus and run
then u wait some time
ik
nah id win
It seems if all the testing and feedback goes well, it’ll be in December that we get our hands on unstable beta.
What if it won't?
i will do the pz irl plan
Good
I like to imagine NasKo has a massive red lever in his office labeled "Release B42" that he stands next to waiting for a pigeon from TIS HQ signaling that the time has come
Nasko said if they knew it wasn’t coming out in 2024 they would’ve said by now.
The plan still seems to be to release it in the next couple months so December. UNLESS the feedback they get from their testers say that the build needs further major improvements.
nah it doesnt, give it to me
We could ask Pat to pull it but he's still struggling with his life threatening case of Ligma 😔
Why make promises when you can't keep them 😔
So let's all hope the beta will be in this year
ETA =/= promise
Chin up, bucko! It's pretty likely that we'll get it before the year is out! But even when it is we'll have a longer wait in store for multiplayer
BIG true
I don’t recall them promising anything. If you read the steam forum post, they said the plan is still 2024 and it will remain that way unless the test build needs major refinement.

i promise i wont craft 50 molotovs when build 42 releases
it's not a promise it's a statement
yea a lot of people are
as long as you don't yell at meteorologists when their estimations of next weeks weather turns out to not be fully accurate
it's not an estimation
it is a reply to the same burning question > when is it coming out
and it's the most accurate and straightforward answer you'll ever get
within a timespan of 2 months, we are likely to have b42 unstable. I have a good feeling based on the blogs that it's gonna be such an amazing addition to the game I'll forget each thursdoid that made me mutter "no b42, god damn it" very fast
Well I mean what they said sounds like the time in which they would release a beta but without any complications. If I was making those posts I wouldn't predict anything, just say at which stage we are.
thats why they stopped giving more accurate estimations because last time didnt work out well
But if I had to then I would also count all the months if things were not going geeat
it's not a prediction we are not betting on champion's league games
We can assume the devs will be taking a break for the holidays in December. So it could be a possibility that we get it in the middle of December before Christmas.
I made a statement some time ago that it won't be released in this year, I'm just curious how accurate will it be
time will tell
it's the community manager telling you that b42 is in the books for 2024 as of now
you can't test accuracy like that lol
guessing "not released in 2024" when its November isn't the most big effort guess
ok I'm wasting time here
Nah I said it months back
I'm gonna guess it will be released before year 3000, if it does, you can hail me as a prophet
Well, let's hope you will be wrong
we both will like that outcome
I hope the same
don't understand the doubt in you when you have clear evidence
some mixed internal logic struggling to get to the surface
is it healthy to stop functioning as a human being until construction42 releases
just freeze urself in a cryochamber
Yes
Sorry, what game supposedly flopped because it was "made for a modern audience"?
Concord
Uh
If people actually believe that, they gotta stop following some chud youtubers lmao
game was taken down a while after releasing, and the studio behind it dissolved
suffice to say it flopped
That's been the status quo for basically the whole year so it is neither new nor worth a lot
That is not the point of the argument though
It didn't flop for being "made for a modern audience"
The problem with Concord isn't that its modern. It's that it's completely shit, there was 0 com behind it, terrible launch, no one heard about it and no one needed such a game
The context was someone taking one of the posters as sexist
and then someone implied games flopped because of "being made for a modern audience" in the sense of appealing to people who don't like sexist shit in their games
If we're purely talking about something being called "sexist" then yeah idk
I dont even see the indev zomboid posters as sexist or otherwise offensive in any way
And costing a lot of money while all competitors are basically free to enter lol
Yea that too
I can see their point tbh, a bar advertising a special evening with "women will be there, gather round" is kinda old-timey tbh
There's so many wrong things about Concord, and the character designs were the last main problem lol
But - being old and all - I am also not sure that's really sexist
its old timey, but isnt that the point
i dont think its sexist, its just era-appropriate
Sure, but racist and sexist shit is old timey and that doesn't mean we want it in our game about 90s kentucky lol
I agree there, but I am not the judge nor jury tbh.
If i saw a similar poster today irl, i'd definitely think its a bit unusual for today's world, but i wouldnt say thats bad
I think making a ladies evening poster is easy enough too
Aye, same page
Different levels of sensititvy tho, I don't think the person deserved ridicule about it
The person who was implying that Concord bombed because of it does tho

(not you)

lol
I was kinda hoping they'd bring the game back as F2P
it wasn't super unredeemable trash imo
I think their c-suite fucked it up with the pricing being out of touch in the current market
it was rather short discussion that made me type the specific post in a hurry as the poster who visited here briefly also left as quickly the moment when being "opposed" in a manner of "I dont think the poster is a problem", taking it as "indifference to sexism" when not seeing the said flaw in the poster
Gameplay wasn't all there when I tried, but there was a solid base to build on
just play overwatch at that point
I watched a lot of Concord gameplay and it just looks so bland
rather play Deadlock than OW2 tbh
Tho I have not checked back with OW2 for ages
I stopped losing interest when it launched, basically
mainly because of the change from 2 tanks to 1
and now I wouldn't really care if they changed it anymore as I've moved on
oh that reminds me
I think it was Squadron 42
some 50 minute gameplay reveal with really bland gameplay but top tier cinematics lol
it was like 15-20 minutes of gameplay, the rest was all cinematic
which looked really cool imo
Excited to see more gameplay down the line
Squadron 42 is just singleplayer star citizen, i dont think its going to be as good as the real deal MP version of it
i'm the opposite
Feels really lonely and lacks that "randomness" factor
if you play singleplayer
that's fair, something for everyone
I just don't see myself finding the time to get into second or third MMO
and maybe I end up liking it so much that I do end up getting into the MMO lol
As this was partially covered already, as I said, I replied in a hurry because I saw the original commenter leave the Discord as soon as he or she got opposition, implying it was indifference and/or acceptance or negligence of sexism because I or other people did not agree with the sentiment. What comes to "modern audience" part, it felt dishonest because the said user gave a strong sense of being part of the hyper-sensitive crowd who sees problems a bit of everywhere (personal perception of mine) so I felt compelled to take part in the discussion as I didn't really feel like censoring completely normal posters for the sake of whatever was the goal there.
Of course, me strongly disagreeing with the user doesn't mean I need or want any sexism, racism or other less desirable aspects of 90s USA to PZ. And yeah, Concord, Dustborn, other games like that that have been discussed online for their lack of popularity. Concord in particular sure was deemed bad because of the gameplay and themes.
Meh, I don't really talk about this kind of stuff especially in PZ discord but was taken aback from the very odd criticism that I did not expect any PZ player to have of what was shown in thursdoids.
Sexism and racism don't need a place in PZ, but in my opinion, if you are okay with murdering, looting, possible animal cruelty (in b42, if animals can suffer from lack of tending to their needs, or can receive wounds from hell, a firefight over ownership of a prized cow!) but a banjo poster is what is a dealbreaker, then I see it odd to play a zombie apocalypse game to begin with.
I agree with that message
it was acceptable feedback, thats the point of this Discord channel, I think
every feedback or idea has both those who agree and who disagree
Yeah that puts it into perspective a lot better 🙂
Yah, i get the point they meant
It was blown way out of proportion considering the circumstances though
Still, good looking out
Their feedback was a little baffling to me
And them immediately leaving afterwards does not give a good impression, so i'd say a lot of the "opposition" might be understandable
the world is a funny place where we can watch a real life war as youtube entertaiment, but have an actual heated, angry verbal war over smallest things
I just want b42 so I can barricade my living room and go live in a sewer
peak surviving
I didnt really understand because im from the 90s but i can see their point after taking a lookand im glad they keep this place neutral allowing all sorts of opinions kind of keeps us open minded ?
Too open minded for them, it seems
They explained that very early on tbh
Social anxiety and the like
well, we're getting old enough that we see new generations of people being born who grew up later than some of us did 😉
they basically just wanted to raise something that had them concerned and then dipped when they were made fun of
I mean
I don't think that's all that wild and doesn't really need further discussion imo
Alright, fair enough
I could say all kinds of things right now but ill refrain
😄
Always a lot cooler when you don't say that you could say all kinds of things, because that's always a given
Well, will the local barns have female zombies inside or -gasp- entirely randomized ones?
Just makes you look a bit abrasive
i like scampi fries
Can we stop this please
I can tell you the only thing those zeds will meet is my axe
Serves no purpose
Why
if thats wilson road whats the other road !?
theyre a good pub snack
no its just that my way of casually discussing things is seen as a bit hostile lol
whats scampi fry
Nunya Business Road
maybe when the UK update comes
holy crap it finally has a road name?!
Anyways cant wait to explore the new areas on the map once B42 drops (hopefully not next year
You will get the joke eventually
will i though

its like a puffed crisp
magic
it does not look like a french fry to me
nasKo if I may ask, when did you join TIS? I'm somehow interested in if I started playing PZ before you joined TIS
i dunno but it looks good lol
they are shaped like cereal tbf
lol
lol can't you find your old CV
I mean I recall the first graffiti I paid attention
I went lurker -> Mod -> CM - > (Junior) Producer
I think I became mod in 2011 or 2012
was that Muldraugh warehouse that said "nasKo" and I was like, who is this thug that ruins my base walls
hahah
lol
then I joined PZ discord, read wiki etc and the word "nasKo" was mentioned a lot more so that mystery solved itself
pretty sure I started before weather build at least
Checked, September 2012 I became moderator on the old forums (the ones before the current one)
Before Reddit and Discord killed forums
We opened the discord for the public in 2016 I think
I would guess you were "just" a mod back when I started, that green graffiti matches the mod role colour here
sorry for asking here but is there anymore compatibility updates for the steam deck in b42
i get a lot of rubberbanding ingame and fps caps wont fix it
don't make me go check it in-game, but yeah mandela effect seems likely
like in mp? i played last night just fine with no issues
driving player metric numbers up before b42???
Compatibility updates how? Should work out of the box
nah single player too, randomly not allowing inputs for a second
Ah. Not getting that. Consider making a post in the techsupport channel with more deets tho
Mkay cheers
Never tried PZ on Steam Deck, am too afraid the menu browsing part of the game gets me killed
but playing PZ in bed sounds like the optimal choice for a man who starts to see effects of aging
Yeah my Deck gets a lot of usage in bed too
its really good if you set up a couple radial menus to switch between
i can't touch my deck atm
well I hope, for sake of my marriage that PZ doesn't work too well on Steam Deck, my wife basically claims ownership of the damn thing
i love it , its my favorite console thingie i ever had , pz is great on it
lol
you can get one radial menu for utility keybindings and another for hotbar selection
if I start using Steam Deck for PZ, she'll never get to touch the console again
Do you use KBM mode or controller inputs on yours (when playing PZ)?
wish I could keep the default controller input for driving, triggers instead of the joystick to drive is sm easier
you just lose so many keybind possibilities in controller mode
KBM yeah, I wish seemlessly switching worked better but that will have to wait for now
oh shit yeah that's exactly what i was thinking
i didnt know if it was possible at all
oh dear, i regret opening the steam forums
Was honestly kinda wild to me lol
lol
RIP
making butter in build 42
lol yes ghost
pet cats for PZ hearing them meow alot
nuclear wasteland
indiestone forums is better
lol yah i dunno wth , every blog has fallout but this blog is like wth
prolly just antsy which is reasonable
this place is the crater
so were getting tardigrades in pz?!
almost at 3000 posts on this thread
6666 should be no problem this time
and be sure to check nasKo is not active so we can get to 10k
I hope for some good hostile animals for build 42 getting mauled by a bear when foraging.
this is how you died
That's Far Cry nonsense
getting killed in PZ is so mimicking Call of Duty
near a river and a bear is also hunting for fish.
think most bear-related deaths in Finland have been during foraging berries
id never go in the woods if bears are there lol
good thing for the tracking feature and animals making noise
can't speak for american bear variants but usually bears avoid human contact, and they know about human presence well before humans know about bear one
stepping on twigs hearing some snap sounds and stepping on dead leaves with crunch sounds
would the bear maul you if you accidentally ran into it
in alaska they would ignore you but if they ever attacked you they would have to put the bear down , sucks would happen a lot during fishing seasons and moms protecting their babies
a surprised bear is a "maul first, ask later" type of a bear
Bears should only be hostile if you get to close
if you see a bear cub in PZ, stay away
best way to hide from a bear is to be a in a car or your house
if u dont have an assault rifle on ur back
firing warnings shots should scare away animals
Ever seen a clip of a man under influence of meth being shot by american police multiple times and still charging at them? Now we're not talking about a famous cocaine bear, but a mama bear protecting its cub is not very easy to stop...but granted, I do not see assault rifles often at all
a bear has a weakness if you hit them in the nose
ive found m16 only once in my 500 hours
I do wanna know if we can hunt animals in b42 with assault rifles, or if there's consequences to the quality of the hide/meat in any manner. Like Red Dead Redemption 2, going spray and pray on an animal isn't good for the value of the animal carcass
lol
yelling at a bear is an effective way to scare a bear
i pictured a clown honk
hunting a deer with a pistol
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WAaL379hqzA yelling works in Finland at least
but Finland doesn't have grizzlies
loud noises can scare bears
b42 should let us yell to the in-game microphone to scare a bear!
q is now useful
bear spray could be a good option for scaring bears
using soundpad to scare bears 💀
imagine a hybrid bear species
pizzly bear? lol
that's the only way you can hunt animals as of now
Polar grizzly bear hybrid
guns being more useful than ever maybe using some bows as well
Bowery will be added later
there's a hunting rifle in-game too
no bows for first unstable
assault rifle would be funny if I find one early
still a rifle
lung and heart shots are be best for hunting deer.
by means of killing the animal, guns are the only way
trapping animals could also be useful
I'll go revolver "its high noon" and 6 bears lie dead
hunting animals RDR2 style
this is the first thing i will try to do when animals will release
throw spears at them
you do that
dress ourselves like cavemen
have you ever came across a bear in the wild, cause I have
No, so I speculate based on what happened in my country
I have seen a black bear when I was camping when I was a child.
and I linked a literal video clip of a bear being scared by yelling, too
my cow staring at me when its time to get butchered
then me not doing it and starving to death
well, my advice is to not do that anymore
if a human was in a group the bears will not attack them
i will attack first
If it's a female bear with cubs, everyone is toast, that animal will fight with it's life for the protection of her cubs so scaring it is an illusion
the best defense is an attack
thats what I implied, if you see a cub, mama bear is likely nearby, and you should get out
bear traps to catch zombies as well
free food
yah even moose in alaska would do that , people would always get killed by them , grizzlies but ALWAYS freaking wolves. You dont frick with wolves
i wonder if cannibalism is gonna be added
wolves are ok if they are not hungry, we have them close to our house, they behave like dogs to us
friendly beasts
getting sprayed by a skunk and needing to clean yourself with tomato juice.
Pat might reply and say "this is not Conan Exiles"
with bleach
there is a mod for cannibalism
yea i have it
how we are gonna eat zombie's corpses tho
eating zombie corpses lol
I have a vacation home close to the Alaskan border
boil it
have seen so many moose around
the end result is achievable with a mod called "gun suicide"
Lol when i was little i thought they qere horses and tried letting one in the house and my mom walked in when it was half in
wth
I had trouble with them munching on front pine trees
they're big
and the dogs just literally stood there watching them no fucks given
while they chewed through
lmao
yeah, dogs no good for defense against moose invasion
i would shit myself if a moose entered my house
especially if i woke up and saw him just staring at me
Arent moose like wildly dangerous?
they do seem to like charging at you, feigning death has worked before
lol theyre horseys !!!
horseys...for an elf living in a magical forest
they are if you dont respect their space , have babies, or breeding season
lol they love eatin pussy willows
ok that is one hell of a translation for the name
lol
but seems like they're what kids here use for their traditional easter stuff
they are so soft , used to think they were fuzzy pets so id put them in my pocket and take them to school
So google says you can get about 500lbs of meet from a moose (which is really bonkers to me), so if you hunted one in game and made moose 1/2lb burgers for 3 meals a day, you would have almost a years worth of food....from one moose
but how to preserve the meat without a fridge? earth cellars are not a thing
jerky
and cold temps outside do not work, at least without a mod
which, i assume they will add anyway
hope so, tyranny of the generators is my enemy
yah my cousin would hunt and would have meat for a full year
didnt taste too bad either but older moose tasted yuckers to me
youve had moose? whats it taste like?
yah , i grew up eating wild game my dad used to hunt deer , antelope, and elk. I don't really know how what to compare it too maybe buffalo? its kind of mild to me
hmm.,.. okay. so what does buffalo taste like? xD
lol umm
i bought some at a store once it taste kind of lighter or something
worth a try if you can find it in yuor stores
😆
ill have to try it some time
no, as long as you don't threaten or scare it, he's ok
reindeer meat 5/5
food preservation mechanics is introduced in B42 unstable
first iteration
great, might have missed that blog
So dont say "gimme your lunch money moose!" Got it
just say "gimme you, lunch, moose"
Theres so much coming I am forgetting a lot of things they have mentioned
lmao
Never attempt to tame or befriend wild animals unless you really know what are you doing
Never
sir, i am threatening a moose for lunch money. clearly i am not trying to be its friend
I lost 2 friends this way, both died in bear attacks
sorry to hear that. now i just feel like an ass.

