Heat of the Night

[crisp quail]

[visual haven]

I need this

zomsicles

[still marlin]

What if there was parody walking dead VHS set called the crawling alive

[toxic dragon]

Wires?

Redstone?

https://tenor.com/view/oooh-chris-pratt-parks-and-rec-surprised-shocked-gif-14609379

(Nah, please don't take me seriously.)

Actually, if Project Zomboid has redstone / wiring / logic gate mechanism in the game, what would the game play like?

Contraptions like setting off molotovs from a far distance would be cool.

Or, we can route zombies to path towards us, and then trap them in.

[crisp quail]

awh shit were getting redstone?!

[ashen fossil]

how is maintenance a part of combat???

[ashen fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/piston-minecraft-redstone-redtorch-gif-26384924

[toxic dragon]

Uhhh, you maintain your weapons and your body fitness / stamina, so you can go in combat without fatigue / danger?

[ashen fossil]

thats fitness

[toxic dragon]

Fair. I guess "Maintenance" is only weapons-specific.

[ashen fossil]

oh wait i see

[toxic dragon]

That means, "Maintenance" is the "durability" of your weapons.

[ashen fossil]

yeah they shouldve called it weapon maintainance instead

[toxic dragon]

Probably the name is too long, so they shortened it to "Maintenance".

[ashen fossil]

🤷‍♂️

[gaunt cloak]

Maybe we could get something like that with the introduction of complex machines, where we can pipe materials between machines based on conditions, crafting components that can be connected between buildings to toggle machine activation

But don't be like that other guy I argued with on Reddit who couldn't understand the difference between signals and electricity.

[sage stump]

Zedstone

[toxic dragon]

👍

[nocturne oriole]

Make it realistic

Make all the redstone nerds live the electroBOOM experience

10 year character lost to faulty wiring in an AC

[gaunt cloak]

🧠

[twilit bloom]

Because the way it works is the maintenance stat determines how much durability you lose per swing of a weapon

[gaunt cloak]

Well, per successful swing of a weapon.

[twilit bloom]

Aye

Makes sense for bladed weapons but i feel like its hard to use a blunt object the wrong way 😅

[crisp quail]

sheet have stashes?

[viscid dirge]

Should implement maintenance like the mod does maintenance improves repair and let the skill influence the amount of condition you're gonna get based of the level

[twilit bloom]

Tbh id say ditch it altogether and let the relevant combat and crafting stats govern this stuff. Long blunt stat would determine durbility loss of a baseball bat and woodworking or whatever would determine repair amount

[final hazel]

Remote controller + firebombs, pipe bombs, noise makers, etc.

You can also throw your voice to move zombies if you have two walkie talkies, so the sort of foundation for electrically powered traps is definitely there

[inland mica]

zedstone and remote-detonated traps are inferior. You really just need a couple of rakes

https://tenor.com/view/sideshow-bob-rakes-gif-10807867

[gaunt cloak]

So, the maintenance actions should just remain within the respective weapon type?

[flint adder]

I dunno I kinda like the mantinence skill

It feels like a level up in general combat prowess (even though that's not what it represents haha)

[final hazel]

This and a sprite-based duffel bag stash exist in-game, but I don't think they actually spawn

usually duffel stashes just spawn a lootable bag as an item on the ground

[inland mica]

I thought maintenance already improved repair. For instance, using wood glue to repair a baseball bat: a higher maintenance skill would in turn increase repair chance

[viscid dirge]

No I don't believe without a mod, that to be possible.
From what I know it governs durability of all weapons type and the chance for it to decrease per swing.

[viscid dirge]

This also exists, every level in weapon skill will increase the overall durability

[viscid dirge]

This is wrong, maintenance should have nothing to with combat, like IRL it basically improves you skill at upkeeping stuff .
The way it feels is wrong not your statement, I agree it feels like a combat skill sometimes and that's just wrong imo.

[twilit bloom]

Haha yeah it's always gonna feel that way as long as it levels up from crushin skulls. Partly why it makes sense to me to just hide it all within the respective skills

[final hazel]

Well, an electrician and an engineer would finally come in handy. The way I see it - it would be possible to make an automatic light on the base, sprinklers that would turn on at a certain time of day, motion sensors that would signal

that a zombie/another player or an animal has infiltrated your base

Maybe automated drinkers and feeders so that the animals on the base do not die while you are looting somewhere

[viscid dirge]

they said the engineer profession is getting an update in B42 so more options for crafting electrical devices and systems

[young crane]

When are we gonna get NPC squirrels? On occasion when you chop a tree down, a squirrel runs out.

[fiery socket]

Wait that's actually a very good idea

[toxic dragon]

Hell no, today is a bad day for me to read.

[grizzled goblet]

last thing most people want may be fighting a bunch of lady zombies in tight spaces, then the whole "spider egg" situation when smaller zeds spawn everywhere in the room

[inland mica]

[quaint finch]

if a pregnant woman becomes zombified, what happens to the baby?

does the baby become a zombie, die normally, stay alive or some sorta inbetween?

[sage stump]

I imagine pregnant women don't exist in the lore & the answer is 🤷🏾

Curious whether there'll be a more concrete answer though

[quick patrol]

There won't be, cheers

[gusty kite]

they should add pregnant men instead

[sage stump]

Now this, I support

[sage stump]

I prefer this reality to the 5 paragraph explanation of how pregnant women relate to the lore

Unrelated to lore, but something I've been thinking abt lately & unsure if I've brought it up: I hope with the reintroduction of NPCs we see more options for customization of character appearances

I pray that every survivor of the same sex sharing a face will someday be a thing of the past 🙏🏾

[cyan quartz]

Kids don't exist in Project Zomboid so I don't see why babies would either. You guys are messed up

[flint adder]

I think it started as a joke and somebody took it way too seriously lmao

It's weird

[sage stump]

Nothing was discussed in detail in this conversation so idk what's messed up about this exchange lol

[quick patrol]

I suggested this too but also faces have like 8 pixels

[austere pond]

That means making new faces would be really easy

[sage stump]

I'd be okay with the faces staying low quality but still being distinctive, but I'm not an artist so idk how difficult that'd be (to make them distinctive)

I guess it doesn't matter for gameplay, but there is that one Java mod for enhanced zoom

[frozen sphinx]

Thats kinda not a priority, right?

[crisp quail]

dont take away our oven mitts

[sage stump]

Next you'll say that a second axis of rotation for placed items is not a priority

Don't be ridiculous, juanse; I speak only of the top priorities of gamers: decoration and customization

[crisp quail]

oo yah decor lol

[storm cedar]

decoration and customization

[tiny parcel]

I say Goldeneye aced it.

[crude blade]

i actually just finished a mod that lets you pick faces in char creation but havent done any art for it yet lmao

[sage stump]

Ooh, looking forward to it. I had that down as something to try out but didn't bother with that idea because I'm not an artist 😄

[austere pond]

I made one that lets you play as pat bren

[crude blade]

lmao

[quick patrol]

Peak graphics

[quick patrol]

Enjoy gaol

[tiny parcel]

I had that idea at some point, called it project Zii in my head, but never got it started

[crude blade]

i have it all pretty much fully functioning but i cant really figure out what to do with the vanilla faces because theyre so simple

i want to have at least a few vanilla ones but i was gonna add the rest in my retexture mod

[tiny parcel]

my ideawas to have separate features just like those Mii for the Nintendo Wii, hence the name, where you pick eyes, mouth and so on

But that's a nigtmare for make up

[crude blade]

yeahh

im planning on just having the option to pick between faces and then another dropdown with stuff like freckles

i cant really think of anything else to add to the 2nd option though

[austere pond]

Scars maybe?

[crude blade]

i wanted to do that but its probably better for rp to have scars be makeup and stuff that you can change ingame so im not sure

[tiny parcel]

wrinkles

[crisp quail]

more clown makeup options?!

wheres our 90s tribal tattoos too lol

[crude blade]

i saw a mod that adds scars as an addon to the tattoo mod but uses its own "character customisation" item which is probably the best way of doing it i think

[inland mica]

can you make a headless option? When (or if) horses get added, I would like to RP as the Headless Horseman

[visual haven]

You can use my pat bren face mod🧐

[visual haven]

Needs more barbed wire tattoos as well

[crisp quail]

LOL

[austere pond]

Can't believe there's no tattoos in the game yet smh

[crisp quail]

wait did we mean the actual barbwire tat or the movie lol

[crude blade]

there is a tattoo mod though

[visual haven]

Actual tat 🤣

[remote ivy]

B42 WILL be this month I just know it

[gaunt cloak]

If it was, they'd've said it in the Thursdoid

My bet's still on November, otherwise, December

[austere pond]

My bet is 2025. By the way, they won't give us a date. We won't get a "it'll come out next month guy. Promise!". They probably won't tell us until everything is done and the only thing left is putting it on Steam. So don't expect a date in a thursdoid smh

[inland mica]

on a more important note: what we can expect this month, however, is our Spiffo 2.0 plushies being delivered

and we’ll get a can of beans from 1993 like Soul Filcher promised

[crisp quail]

better contain each toebean from every tis member or im gonna cry

[gaunt cloak]

Aren't you guys getting those on Halloween?

[inland mica]

around that time, yeah. Estimated shipping was supposed to be on Halloween, but many got an email about the plush being shipped already so it should arrive before then

[viscid dirge]

Don't think so.
I do agree with November and December but still in 2024, only if something horribly wrong has happened in the last months.
Otherwise reading from the blog post, it's pretty much there, fine tuning is being carried out from the player feedback so we shall see.

Would be a fantastic and huge surprise to see it out on Halloween

[native wagon]

2 more days and build 41 will be 5 years old

[crude blade]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

[tiny parcel]

You can RP as the horseless headman!

[quaint finch]

wait fr?

wtf time flies

!roadmap

:0 its dead, there is no more roadmap

[native wagon]

Halloween blog post for this month is going to be very festive

Trick or treat themed video would be funny

[gaunt cloak]

Yeah, enough with that

[stable dove]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-hollow-headless-horseman-1999-hessian-sword-gif-25960962

This is how you died, mortal

[pulsar chasm]

do you still think it'll be this year?

[crisp quail]

unstable ya

[final hazel]

every build is unstable with the average PZ modlist

[inland mica]

unstable gamers and unstable build —> two negatives make a positive

👍

[visual haven]

Can't wait for real frog physics

[slate vale]

There wont be B42 this month

[slate vale]

No

B42 is secret

[visual haven]

🤫

[dense bramble]

If its not coming halloween, then just before Christmas. But this year for Sure.

[nova pelican]

I still reckon based of the information I found ages ago that it'll come out this year just maybe mid December

[pastel inlet]

february 30th

[quaint finch]

October the 14th

[native wagon]

If we don’t see build 42 in October we still got November left

[viscid dirge]

and December

well at least half of it

[native wagon]

early December before the christmas holidays would logical.

thursday before the christmas holidays would be our final blog post of the year.

[viscid dirge]

ofc, first half of December to be more specific

I honestly don't know why people are relating to thursdoids, they are basically development progress updates.

Most likely B42 unstable announcement will be made outside of regular thursdoids posts.

[native wagon]

build 41 didnt even release on a thurday.

build 41 released on a Friday back in October of 2019

[viscid dirge]

Doesn't matter also relating to B41 unstable, it was a different time. I believe when they feel it can be pushed to steam or other platforms, the announcement will come regardless of the blog or day of the week.

[native wagon]

I really hope some content creators will get early access to build 42 that would a good sign the developers are getting more closer to completion

[viscid dirge]

They will and most likely they have already but they cannot disclose anything related to it, I'm sure there is some policy regarding this and it's mainly for testing and feedback. You won't see content creators streaming videos of how nice it is to play B42 unstable while the rest boil over here 😉

[viscid dirge]

The signs are there already, you just need to read the blog posts and understand them

[fallow dove]

marketing needs its slice of cake but nothing is more annoying then watching youtubers fumble early access to games while the playerbase has to sit and watch

I don't need youtubers to tell me build 42 is ready, the devs can do that in one sentence

[native wagon]

maybe they will make an announcement 1 week before the players can finally get thier hands on build 42 unstable

[inland mica]

or no announcement. Just drop it whenever then watch the chaos unfold

[native wagon]

shadow release build 42

[crisp quail]

people would cry lol

[inland mica]

tears of joy I imagine

[viscid dirge]

Just imagine waking up, opening reddit or disc and seeing hundreds of messages posts and all that, people unleashing chaos on socials 😛

Nice experiment

[nocturne oriole]

Tomorrow

[tight magnet]

😂it always cracks me up when i see ppl want smth that is obv not being added and are so serious about it and give examples of stuff they’d do with it thinking it’s realistic

like “you should be able to do your own piping from the water plant down the city, it would add a lot of immersion”

or “imagine if you can hijack a plane and pilot it to a new city? i hope it gets added”

and then people reply with “actually, with the new system that was implemented this would be possible!”

not saying you actually hoped it was added cuz it was just a random thought with redstone or whatever but it just reminded me of everytime i see this happen😂

[crisp quail]

like space stations?

[gleaming ridge]

ppl still ask for zombie dogs

[visual haven]

This is how it has always been in the past

[inland mica]

hopefully it revives the “posting a [insert popular show or movie]-related Project Zomboid meme every day until I don't feel like it anymore” Reddit posts again or posts like “Day … of locating Spiffo’s Secret Sauce”

[young crane]

I'm sure once build 42 comes out we'll get zombie animal mods.

[quiet spear]

it will be a surprise drop on the 31st

i have spoken

[patent void]

I remember genuinely thinking spiffo's secret sauce was real for so long 😭

[visual haven]

It'll drop October 32nd

[crisp quail]

literally made me look at my calender for a 32rnd

[visual haven]

🤣

[toxic dragon]

Nah, it's on a Thursday.

[crisp quail]

thats sunday!!!

[inland mica]

they probably meant February, March and/or November 2025

there's new emotes for the server?

[crisp quail]

[inland mica]

[crisp quail]

WHAT

wait i gotta go spam them somewhere lol

[inland mica]

I believe they added about 60 new ones. Very cool!

[twilit bloom]

Wow there are a lot of em

[crisp quail]

lol i love that

[twilit bloom]

[inland mica]

[twilit bloom]

Yay no brain stem

[crisp quail]

nice find rofl

[inland mica]

we have Crowbar and crowbar

[crisp quail]

lol

spot the difference!

[inland mica]

someone's shuffling all the emotes lol

[crisp quail]

I KNOW Lol

[twilit bloom]

B42 definitely impending lol

[crisp quail]

im trying to look gosh

STOP IT lol

[inland mica]

bass and basselectricblack

[crisp quail]

was that always there, now i dont remember

wait i thought this was like a desk lol

[inland mica]

guitar and guitaracoustic

[twilit bloom]

UV unwrap perhaps? Hard to make out the deets

[crisp quail]

wahts a uv unwrap lol

its a human desk

[inland mica]

it's bob_body

[twilit bloom]

A mesh flattened out for texturing

[twilit bloom]

Yeah defs bobs body texture

[inland mica]

Spiffo and spiffo

[inland mica]

looks like the Buff Doge meme

[crisp quail]

noo lol

[inland mica]

[crisp quail]

[austere pond]

These new emojis mean we are close to the release of B42. It was revealed to me in a dream

[inland mica]

you got a custom role? Nice!

[austere pond]

I literally just realized lol

[inland mica]

what's nasKo cooking? Assuming he's the one that added five doors

[crisp quail]

lol 5 doors

which door do we go in

[inland mica]

all of them, but in the most discreet way possible as demonstrated below:

[crisp quail]

man my dumb self clicked someone profile earlier with a link that had that really loud lol

[inland mica]

you must've taken the Keen Hearing trait during customization

[crisp quail]

[inland mica]

sunballz to fuel our mornings

[crisp quail]

gotta eat your morning bowls of ballz

[inland mica]

[viscid dirge]

Of course.
People just dropped in and forgot about this that's why everyone has different opinions and such, but anyone around that time knows how it will come down

[visual haven]

[granite karma]

Discord rate limits you REAL quick when you add a lot of emojis in one go. It said it failed to upload A LOT and I started trying to upload the missing ones, and it never gave me any feedback on the emote uploading. Just sat on the "uploading" screen with the emote never popping up.

[pastel inlet]

is there gonna be build 42 trailer

[tidal nova]

Probably when/after it's fully released

[quick patrol]

Old Five Door Nasko we call him

[gaunt cloak]

Wait, I think this one was always there

Why is there a "blank" emoji?

Between and

All hail the map egg:

[remote ivy]

Would you trade the life of your firstborn for B42

I think it’s a good trade

[viscid dirge]

Is that a statement or a question?

[viscid dirge]

most likely after the first Stable is released, don't think that will happen for the Unstable aka Beta version.

[inland mica]

ah. The infamous Discord rate limit. You probably had to wait nearly an hour just to upload some more emotes or the missing ones

[granite karma]

Yup at first I thought something's wrong with my internet

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-is-going-on-bro-pc-principal-south-park-s19e8-sponsored-content-gif-20622227

[crisp quail]

lol

[inland mica]

to troll (“look at this emote! It’s not loading”) and to make some silly depictions like

if you do five or six spaces initially (before inserting the fork), then Discord invalidates those spaces for some reason

[granite karma]

yeah it's really handy sometimes

[toxic dragon]

This sounds more like Markdown or a variant of it being used to parse our messages.

It makes sense since the Markdown syntax of making text italicized or boldfaced can be used in Discord messages. Like this with *asterisks*.

[nocturne arrow]

"unstable build" this "unstable build" that
my brother in christ i am the one getting unstable from all the long waiting

[crisp quail]

[inland mica]

perhaps? Sounds like a different topic altogether. Not sure, but I just meant that

a message with typical spacing so it helps to add the "blank" emote/emoji beforehand like in the first message I replied with (the phrase following "perhaps" being shifted to the right)

just something worth noting if you want your messages like that but vast majority of us aren't gonna go through all that unless you're doing text/emote art on Discord

[inland mica]

and this gets you timed out lol

[toxic dragon]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[inland mica]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[young crane]

Just in time for build 42! My little survivor buddy will protect my desk

[inland mica]

awesome! Glad your plush arrived unscathed from the shipping

[crisp quail]

i cant wait snuffle mine

i had to buy one i can smother the shit out of

[visual haven]

I want one

[viscid dirge]

because of Christ or because of your brother?

[nocturne arrow]

did you not read what i said

[sage stump]

They referenced things in the message, of course they read it (but misunderstood)

[olive iron]

We love the changes! Keep it up. More realistic the better.

[pastel inlet]

wheres my cryocamera when i need it

[forest wraith]

Are Thursdoids every 4 weeks or last Thursday of the month

[cyan quartz]

Last thursday of the month

[gaunt cloak]

Sometimes the week before that, but the expectation is the last Thursday.

[cyan quartz]

Oh really? Cool

[native wagon]

Halloween is going to be excellent.

[pastel inlet]

if unstable beta will release

[nocturne arrow]

It better release before next year, or they will lose all credibility

That being said, i could easily wait longer, but they've already said it will release before next year, so they should stick ot it

Even if theres some bugs

[fallow dove]

woe to the world, discord user aiden thinks indie stone doesn't have any credibility. what will we do with this development?

[nocturne arrow]

point being, i'm not the only one who will think that if it happens

plenty users who think it, videos and articles about it out there

I'd be moreso worried about the future of development and community interaction from that point onwards

[crisp quail]

its coming on unstable 2024 for shure

[nocturne arrow]

🙏

[pastel inlet]

praying for rat king to be in unstable beta

[quick patrol]

Unstable has been delayed due to an outbreak of ligma

[crisp quail]

lol

[crisp quail]

oooo i cant wait for that , gosh im gonna turn into aloot monster , im gonan print a loot list

[gaunt cloak]

The testicular-salivation-applicator disease?

[tidal nova]

😂

[crisp quail]

pz community going from a 0 to 200 in 5

[viscid dirge]

Hope for a Halloween surprise

[crisp quail]

i hope for december !

[viscid dirge]

[strange steppe]

I heard that with build 42 also animzed will be released.

Do you think make sense suppose that we will finally get much more animation mods like several animals and special zombies mods?

Or make complex animations mods will be still complex and a niche thing?

Just curious to see what people (like expert modders) think...

[austere pond]

Tf is animzed?

[visual haven]

Mod tools

[crude blade]

the animation tool they showed off in a blog somewhat recently

replaces needing to do animation stuff in xml files 💀

[austere pond]

Cool. I hope it's easy to use

[sage stump]

“What is ligma?” Is what I would say, if I were some kind of fool

[viscid dirge]

last month ? really waiting till the last minute? don't know man, sound silly to me

sounds*+

[sage stump]

I hope it's released on December 31st 2024, 11:59 PM UTC+12

[viscid dirge]

:))

The most hilarious game launch in history

[crisp quail]

but xmas gift!

[viscid dirge]

still a gift, I would like to enjoy it sooner; until xmas, my eyes will have been enhanced biomechanically to withstand the damage

[granite karma]

Yes, that's what we're releasing it for 🙂

[final hazel]

With animzed it'll become a project freakyoid in a first week after build's release

[nocturne arrow]

🤫

[final hazel]

And I'm here for it

[granite karma]

It'll get so much worse

[crisp quail]

oh noo lool

[inland mica]

AnimZed and GrappleTech

[crisp quail]

NOO lol

[viscid dirge]

animzed is wild, can't wait to mess around

[inland mica]

I wonder what the most popular mod on the workshop will be after those tools drop

[viscid dirge]

it will be a huge influx of all kind of mods

[tiny parcel]

Probably new Fortnite dances

[crisp quail]

lmao

[viscid dirge]

some horses that can be mounted

there was an insanely funny mod that added horses but it was such a joke, it mainly just generated views for any content creator showcasing it.

[crisp quail]

i wouldnt mind a donkey or mule lol, love those little honkers

but not to ride just to honk !

[viscid dirge]

carry stuff around

[inland mica]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-horse-gif-10664029143539029928

[viscid dirge]

yeah loooool

that one

:))))))

good times....

[viscid dirge]

I remember my roommate DM-ing the modder on Steam and asked him where did he get his LSD from.

[crisp quail]

lol

[inland mica]

perhaps a Soul Filcher’s Dancing Time somewhere down the line

[gaunt cloak]

My favorite part of it is how the legs rotate at different speeds, making it "gallop."

[tiny parcel]

Of all the things I could spend time to mod, dancing isn't one of them, sorry

[nova pelican]

Very unrelated but I'd like to direct everyone to the steam page for SUBNAUTICA 2, release date for early access next year

I hope that B42 and SUBNAUTICA don't come out at the same time else I'm figuring out how to play 2 games at once

[inland mica]

pressing Q for the “neigh,” and recreating the pilot episode of TWD were my highlights and this too:

[quick patrol]

I had a huge submarine in Subnautica called The Shagmobile but uninstalled the game after a big fish made it blow up

[nova pelican]

Relatable

Also SUBNAUTICA 2 is going to have native multiplayer, I dunno if it will on early access however

(if that's the case then B42 and Subnautica have a lot of similarities...)

I'm joking for that last part I'm excited to play B42 regardless of multiplayer

[flint adder]

Here's hoping it's better than Below Zero!

Below Zero was ok but the narrative just felt really bland

[strange steppe]

Wonderful, thank you ❤️

[viscid dirge]

Agree, I can't imagine jumping straight into MP without getting to see and play with all the new stuff around.

[nova pelican]

New planet new characters

[viscid dirge]

Some see this as disappointment but I'm guessing before we even get to play and test all the new mechanics / stuff in B42, the MP update will drop.

[inland mica]

[nova pelican]

Yes and no, we'll be able to definitely use all of the mechanics since mp drops are usually a way away from thing but we won't be able to fully exploit it the way we have now before mp drops

[inland mica]

nah, it’s all good lol and thanks for the can of beans. It’s in surprisingly decent condition given it’s from 1993

[viscid dirge]

depends on how development goes down on MP part I guess

still with the ton of stuff added in this build, I think I won't miss MP

[crisp quail]

I mainly play solo but will play mp with friends, I think for people who run servers it might be a good opportunity for them to test things to see how the new mechanics will be for the future on their servers n stuff

[inland mica]

gonna be interesting to see how a server is affected when 30+ players each have their own plot of land and are all raising livestock

[crisp quail]

going to be like mc server lol

"you dont need 500 chickens" me: yes

[wanton shore]

Isn't the game somewhat p2p?

You could create a meta defense against people with weaker computers 🧠

[crisp quail]

lol thats so mean ahhaha

[toxic dragon]

So you're saying our skill attributes can be weakened based on how weak our computers are, with the lowest being 50% if you barely hit the minimum requirements, and 150% boost when you exceeded the recommended requirements?

I now wanted to know if there are knockback levels when you swing a long blunt weapon at zombies.

[native wagon]

Books for teaching weapon skills and other skills that are lacking.

[inland mica]

you mean books that grant an XP multiplier for long blunt (for instance)? I would argue that trait modifiers are sufficient

[twilit bloom]

Does make logical sense though for books to provide insights that would increase the characters speed of development in a practical skill, as opposed to just straight up gaining a level or a chunk of XP

[native wagon]

Maintenance skill book

[twilit bloom]

Maybe combat related stuff could come from literature as perks. Could literally even call them "Insights" and it would be specific stuff like "your baseball bats take X amount less durability damage"

Bit gamey though

[austere pond]

I'd like those but more grounded. Like... Idk, a book about baseball that gives a small boost to blunt weapons that can only be found in sport areas, not on every single bookshop like the skill books we currently have

[twilit bloom]

⬆️

[slate vale]

There wont be B42 today

Not today

I saw stars are wrong

No b42 today

[inland mica]

yeah, that does make sense. And I like the idea of “insights.” If one were to read up on literature such as Baseball for Dummies, then surely that would improve one’s form + technique and grant them knowledge on the best angles to swing, diminish strain on the arms, etc.. which would then translate to a slight XP boost to Long Blunt

but then wouldn’t it be too easy to level up Long Blunt in vanilla after that, especially if you take other XP-boosting traits and/or occupations?

[twilit bloom]

Yeah thats why i now feel like something like that would be better for very specific perks rather than XP boosting. Kinda like fallout magazine perks. It could even be done as something that just unlocks specific perks that are normally gained at certain levels, only early.

Like, just for another example you could have a first aid insight that speeds up bandaging or the increases the efficacy of a splint, stuff like that

[spare tusk]

oh man, I can't wait for my birthday blog post

on the 23

[inland mica]

[inland mica]

ah yeah, that’d be neat too! Hopefully a mix of magazines or VHS tapes if they were to consider adding that in some form

[twilit bloom]

Yeah thatd be good. Hell you could even dish out "insights" just for achieving something like "100 succesfull attacks with a baseball bat" really utilise those player statistics lol

[inland mica]

not exactly with books, but I think one of the Thursdoids mentioned that certain recipe magazines (categorized more so as high-value loot iirc) would be found mainly in survivor houses and not always in bookstores/homes

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/04/dya-like-them-grapplez/

[crisp quail]

Nice table

[inland mica]

carpentry 10 table

[crisp quail]

It has a drink rug

[pastel inlet]

pipe bomb schematic 💀

[inland mica]

oh, a coaster! Took me a min

or beermat

saucers are for tea/coffee

and I just noticed your pfp is a xenomorph carrying a pupper

[inland mica]

no more characters with the Engineer occupation only being able to craft it

[pastel inlet]

ik, its just very weird and funny to find a pipe bomb schematic in someones basement

[crisp quail]

Carrying puppers!

[crisp quail]

Actually lol youd be surprised, when internet came out and printers , so much pribting!

[inland mica]

printed/acquired HottieZ magazines in every container should be a basement story

[crisp quail]

Lol ascii hottiez

[inland vine]

Will we have the ability to pet the animals? I just want to pet a cow.

[nocturne arrow]

Cows are for eating

Not petting

[sage stump]

I believe a blog post had a video that included a sheep being pet at some point, but I can't be bothered to track it down so take that with a grain of salt

Here is your True Patriot Fact Check regardless:

[inland vine]

You hav emade my day! thank you

[toxic dragon]

What does the "Adam" mean in the context of Project Zomboid, from the tweet?

You can't be a father in Project Zomboid.

[sage stump]

If you open the tweet in full, you'll see it links to a video. I imagine that has a person named Adam in it (the video is entitled “Chest organization control freak,” which may be a hint)

[crisp quail]

Can we hug them

I wanna hug a shicken

[toxic dragon]

No, that flew over my head.

[young crane]

There was a video a while back showing the new protagonist lady petting a pig!

[crisp quail]

amz or the other one lol

the protagonist lol

[fiery socket]

Well, there is a specific room in the louisville general hospital…

[cyan quartz]

I don't want to know what that means

[nocturne arrow]

ok since we're on the topic of babies/children existing in project zomboid

[crisp quail]

NOOOOO

[nocturne arrow]

i genuinely believe that the presence of child zomboids would make for an even more unsettling, grim experience, imo it'd only add to the gameplay

imagine fighting off a group of child sprinters though

[crisp quail]

i think something like that should stay as a mod

[nocturne arrow]

or.. you know, a sandbox setting

[crisp quail]

i really dont wanna kill zombie kids

[nocturne arrow]

yes, thats why its a sandbox setting

[crisp quail]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gross-disgust-gif-13789077

it shoudl stay a mod lol

[inland mica]

indeed that would make gameplay more unsettling, but adding violence against children would get the game banned in many countries

[nocturne arrow]

unfortunate

perhaps as a mod one day, then

i dont think theres anything atm

[gaunt cloak]

Someone wants Dying Light's screamers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmQfmSNntzk

[nocturne arrow]

yeah

i mean overall it'd just be great for the variety

i wouldnt mind zombified dogs/cats either, even if that's a far fetch

anyway how long do you guys think before unstable B42 releases?

[final hazel]

dunno if any infected animals will come around, but some of the radio voices imply that dogs can get sick and act as a vector for the infection

[twilit bloom]

That might be ok for some, but for many its a little too unsettling. Mod territory for sure.

[nocturne arrow]

its what would happen irl, shrug

[nocturne arrow]

maybe just as a carrier, without any symptoms

but then there'd be no point in them existing

[twilit bloom]

Irl a zombie apocalypse wouldnt be a whole lot of fun. We're all here for fun

[final hazel]

I don't have to imagine (in CDDA)

[nocturne arrow]

[nocturne arrow]

are we talking about the ingame challenge or a mod

i havent dabbled in mod stuff much

[final hazel]

Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead has child zombies lol

[inland mica]

we wouldn’t know that. The children would probably be eaten or the virus could completely kill them off since adult immune systems are far more developed than those of children

[twilit bloom]

So did a well known AAA game known as Dying light. Interestingly, the second installment didnt 😅

[crisp quail]

yeah thats how i see it

they ended up as a snack

[nocturne arrow]

is that a mod?????

i swear theres both a mod and a ingame challenge that has the same/similar name

[final hazel]

It's a separate game, this is what the vanilla challenge gets its' name from. There's also a mod called "CDDA Zombies" which adds CDDA-styled zombies to the game, which is probably what you're thinking of

[nocturne arrow]

rip

i could give the mod a shot, see if its any good

[vast wind]

https://youtu.be/zA7260FI9rM?t=36

[inland vine]

Its beautiful! I love it! Whoever implemented that needs a raise!

[crisp quail]

do we get a halloween video from you ?!

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-6094188626957948188

[inland mica]

will the action of petting our animals diminish unhappiness? If yes, is it per each animal or is there a cooldown after petting the first animal?

[crisp quail]

lmao carries chicken around

[inland mica]

putting a chicken on my head or backpack then petting it as soon as the unhappiness moodle pops up

or I’ll just read Knapping Vol. 1 to my chickens

[gaunt cloak]

You joke, but....

[crisp quail]

oh i aint jokes lol

[gaunt cloak]

I mean, you could just try CDDA. The game's free to download. You just also have to deal with some clunky keyboard-oriented UI.

[nocturne arrow]

yeahi found out its an actual game but

i want that stuff to be in project zomboid, thats all

the CDDA zombies mod seems decent

[final hazel]

Pretty sure there's a sandbox setting to let a configurable amount of zombies be sprinters or crawlers

[icy orbit]

Nop

That's a mod

[inland mica]

and there will be options like that in B42

[native wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-walking-rooster-chicken-michael-richards-gif-6098109

Taking a chicken for a walk.

[hot solstice]

Когда 42 билд? Уже очень долго ждём.

[twilit bloom]

I feel like something would have to go monumentally wrong for that statement not to hold. Even if that did happen, I know i wouldnt hold it against em

[visual haven]

I wouldn't either, but a lot of people would sadly

[still marlin]

Does this mean unstable or full game?

[inland mica]

unstable

[cyan quartz]

I think they meant actual release but even so, development is not something you can clearly predict at all. Not meeting a date set out by one tweet for a free update is a stupid thing to get angry at anyone for. That being said, I do wish devs (for all games) wouldn't give out release estimates so freely, it puts pressure on them and gives people expectations and I don't see the point.

[viscid dirge]

We still have November and December, don't see the point discussing this.

[strange steppe]

Yeah, until they don't say clearly that release is delayed I think we are ok.

October is probably gone unless they are planning a special Halloween suprise..

... If not it will be probably released on November or December.

I'm very curious to see what community will bring on mod terms, B42 seems very inclined to enhance this aspects, several aspect of the build are open to various mods possibilities 💪

[viscid dirge]

First, let's hope some of the best mods from B41 will update to 42

[strange steppe]

Well... I need bandits in first place 😁

It add another layer of fear that improve immersion, that obviously was already good previously on vanilla, but I love that increased difficulty.

[viscid dirge]

sadly only vanilla, maybe later some mods will update

[strange steppe]

Yeah but I confident "bandits" will be updated.. author known B42 is coming and is already working on some extra features so It will require time... But I think it will be updated

Anyway....
I'm curious to play B42 also only vanilla

Without mod, to understand better what is changed ecc

Will Basements be part of the unstable, right?

[tiny parcel]

Yes.

[pastel inlet]

will we be able to break walls in basements with a sledgehammer?

[strange steppe]

If I remember correctly I read something about this...

I thinks it will not be possible when basament Will come out at first time...

But they didn't said this will be impossible on future.

[pastel inlet]

imagine digging tunnels under the whole map

[quick patrol]

This ain't Minecraft

[pastel inlet]

well

maybe a bit

[inland mica]

will Hot/Cold Cuppa return? Rather than players crafting them, maybe make it a rare find and with more unhappiness, stress, and fatigue removal

[strange steppe]

Found ..

Devs:
"It’s also worth mentioning that in 42, or at least certainly its unstable release, you will not be able to tunnel or break down the external walls of underground structures. This is something it would be healthy for the engine to be able to do (although we’d never have Minecraft-style insta-tunnels in vanilla, clearly) but is probably a can of worms best opened later down the line"

So this will not be part of unstable for sure, but something less complex than what you can do on MC may be will be doable on future builds, or may be will be doable with mods.

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/02/leapdoid/

[pastel inlet]

i hope that it will come soon after full release

[strange steppe]

I wouldn't expect it soon from vanilla..

I think they have other priorities and the risk is to break something and you must spend time to fix it...,

...but may be some modders will make a try 👍

I'm more intrigued to what modders could do with basaments..🤔

Dreams would be special cities map with:

• Metro (obviously not functional)
• Sewers
• Underground mallet (Toronto have one?)
• ecc...

All linked... Would be 😎

[viscid dirge]

Sounds cool but maybe some dedicated modded map would be better instead

I'm curios if there will be an option to start a world without towns, or without most of them, just wilderness with 1-2 towns or no towns at all.

Mostly for wilderness playthroughs or semi-wilderness

[nocturne arrow]

could be you get spawned somewhere in the (almost) endless wilderness, and have to craft your way out of it before going on a journey to hopefully find the civilisation

[viscid dirge]

also very cool ideea

[gaunt cloak]

Underground Mallet? You mean an underground mall??

[viscid dirge]

there is a map mode for that just underground metro stations and such

[gaunt cloak]

They're working on a wilderness-only map. It's been mentioned many times. A map with no human infrastructure, just occasional ore outcroppings for metal.

[viscid dirge]

yes but that's a map, what I'm saying mostly implies an sandbox option to allow for the vanilla map to be generated upon start without any town or maybe just one, i.e Rosewood or Riverside, apart from that, it's all wilderness

[strange steppe]

Yes sorry 😁

[strange steppe]

This would be interesting also for "Indie Stone" purpose:

This would open on "B42 multiplayer" and on "B43 and beyond single player" to medieval cities builded on the nowhere from ground up by players (or npc after B43).

I mean if all map would be wilderness all buildings and villages that you would find on that persistent server would be raised from players on months of playing.

Each building would have an history...

Sound cool.

[digital saffron]

is there still a chance for it to drop this month

i dont think it will

[nocturne arrow]

probably not

[fading burrow]

I would guess December

[viscid dirge]

this is exactly what they're pushing with the crafting overhaul in b42. The possibility to build a town from nothing

and all the items that can be looted, to otherwise be crafted on workstations and machines

but all of this I think would be possible maybe later in a stable version since not all will make it in from the first unstable, they will add more down the line.

[gaunt cloak]

[crisp quail]

dejavu

[digital saffron]

Im hoping at least november maybe

Itll be kinda funny if it wont drop in 2024 tho there will be a lot of butthurt ppl

[crisp quail]

theyd never do that lol

theres no way lol

[digital saffron]

I mean if theyre gonna push it to december why not at this point

[crisp quail]

because the community would eat them alive lol

[viscid dirge]

any day now

[crisp quail]

after saying it is coming out in 2024

[digital saffron]

That would be funny doe

Imagine all the ppl raging here

[viscid dirge]

chaos unfolded

[crisp quail]

i dont think it would be funny

[digital saffron]

Remember how they said it was gonna come out in the first half of 2024 keeeek

That seemed plausible now 2024 in general seems plausible but you cant be sure about anything anymore

[viscid dirge]

Dude, read the blog posts

[digital saffron]

I read all of them several times I dont think I missed anything

[viscid dirge]

In what state is the build now?

It's in closed testing. It went from internal build to closed testing build in one month.

[regal blade]

And that is good?

[viscid dirge]

I guess you have your answer for when / how / if it's coming

[regal blade]

I mean closed testing is one of the last fases before unstable release right?

Im not that up too date of things

[crisp quail]

think that was more of a optimistic approach of a personal opinion rather than official statement by TIS

[digital saffron]

And theyre still adding new things

[regal blade]

Or the usual order of things with game developing

[digital saffron]

It could stretch out for months tbh

[regal blade]

Nah i believe it will be 2024 for unstable

[crisp quail]

tis already doesnt give etas so i dont know why people think when they say its coming out in 2024 they wouldnt release it for unstable in 2024 lol

[viscid dirge]

closed testing may refer to close beta, after this it's open beta aka for everyone

unstable versions means perpetual open beta up until it reaches a stable version.

[regal blade]

yes and open beta could also be referred to as unstable version?

OW yea same!

[viscid dirge]

can't make sense of this

[crisp quail]

lol

[quick patrol]

The community has a case of ligma

[crisp quail]

😆

[viscid dirge]

?

[digital saffron]

They are tho

Like animal pathing and heatmaps and animations and other sthff

So its definitely november at least i think...

[viscid dirge]

Ok, I see you read the blog posts but didn't understand them.

[crisp quail]

The indiestone is known for not giving out estimated time of arrivals for their updates so when I said that officially they stated that in 2024 build 42 is coming out, for me personally I trust them because they have never in the past said they were going to release an update and miss their deadline. If that makes sense. lol

im bad at explaining

[viscid dirge]

All that text at the beginning is fine tunning and calibrating different aspects of the game that the wider closed beta testers found to be annoying / bad / unrealistic / showstopping

When the map approaches final the heatmap is one the last things that needs tweaking

[viscid dirge]

Because the testers felt the animals weren't behaving realistically, natural

[crisp quail]

they told you that ? lol

[viscid dirge]

that's what I understand from that text

[viscid dirge]

it's all optimization work

[viscid dirge]

yeah more clearer now, 10q

[crisp quail]

prolly lots of things under the hood we dont undernan

[viscid dirge]

I do agree they are adding one more feature in the last month or so, that is the Building UI / Menu so no more right clicks for building stuff.

[viscid dirge]

Agree, but this info is written in the blog and it's available for everyone, I guess it comes down to how you digest and understand that info

[icy orbit]

Lots of people tend to forget that they are most likely also excited to finally release the update after such a long time

[tiny parcel]

New animations being shown in the blog doesn't mean animations or other similar additions delay the release. It is not like the animator could instead work on code or whatever.

It should be obvious but the build has a list of things that must be in a minimally functional state, not to mention free of major, game-breaking bugs or it doesn't really make sense to release it.

[nocturne arrow]

Only thing we can reasonably hope for is B42 not being delayed into 2025

[native wagon]

we got 12 days left in October until the next dev blog arrives

[austere pond]

Last thursday of the month is halloween

[cyan quartz]

Spooky

[native wagon]

5 years of playing build 41 which is a nice update compared to other older builds

[cyan quartz]

They should add zombies or something to the game to celebrate

[native wagon]

trick or treat and gets mauled by zombies when you knock at the door or use the door bell

[cyan quartz]

There needs to be a movie about zombies taking over on Halloween

Like everyone just thinks it's a dress-up party wandering around

[native wagon]

zombies in Halloween costumes would be awesome

[cyan quartz]

Zombies in zombie costumes would be hilarious

[native wagon]

We got November and December left in 2024 for a promise of build 42.

[inland mica]

more emotes

[crisp quail]

[inland mica]

I hope they got plans to add some server stickers. Here’s one they can add:

[nocturne arrow]

make it have transparent background and it would be more fitting

[final hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-the-jack-o-lantern-mwhahahaha-nyehahahaha-laughing-gif-27609104

[native wagon]

halloween themed candy for PZ would add some nice level of immersion

[tiny parcel]

You know what? We should add a few thousand zombies... to each neighborhood

[cyan quartz]

Glad to see you're getting into the Halloween spirit

[native wagon]

zombie house a is a spawn trap

[crisp quail]

Nooo lmao

[native wagon]

an excellent choice

[crisp quail]

we suffer enough

more oddball ways to die !!!!

[native wagon]

water shutoffs should be more punishing and make the player have to stock pile to surive more longer.

having no water in the pipes so that having to build rain collector barrels and having water dispensers have better uses.

[nocturne arrow]

i really wonder if we could eventually get primitive dew traps as yet another way to collect water

you know, those contraptions that collect moisture from the air

They'd be very effective in summer

or spring

[tiny parcel]

There will be a few changes related to water, don't worry I want to nerf everything during unstable

[nocturne arrow]

lol

im just saying, it'd be cool

as to build water collectors you need a fairly high carpentry skill, which you wont have unless youre starting with the proper profession/traits

It'd be cool to maybe have something thats less demanding on the skill levels, still capable of collecting water but being less effective with a lesser capacity aswell

[tiny parcel]

Items can do that

[nocturne arrow]

What do you mean

[crisp quail]

yay , waters so easy to get

[tiny parcel]

Items in the floor can be filled with rain water

[nocturne arrow]

you mean containers? saucepans? mugs and such? Yeah i know that, but i meant something thats more passive but still can collect water in spring/summer without rain

wait can you melt snow in winter to get water? I havent actually played through winter yet

[crisp quail]

dont tink so

[nocturne arrow]

:C

[inland mica]

it’s a mod atm

[inland mica]

speaking of water, are those pipes circled in red for decoration or can I put/attach my Spiffo Mug a rain collector barrel there too?

[young crane]

That'd be nice if we could use those!

[crisp quail]

when can we collect soda tabs

[inland mica]

or put pipe bombs in a hollow pumpkin, mailbox, or in a present to surprise our friends?

[twilit bloom]

Downpipe water, yuck

[crisp quail]

lol downpipe water

never heard that before

[native wagon]

rain water being poisonous logic

Courtman medical looks like it will be a good base with all those fences

[twilit bloom]

More concerned about all the nasty shit in the roof gutters that the water collects. Now you gotta filter it hard instead of just having to boil it

[inland mica]

true. I just want the spare drainage pipe water for my crops/plants tho

[still marlin]

except when the large hordes break them down

[gaunt cloak]

Rainwater is bad for you, at least until it washes out the air pollution. Same with snow. (Don't catch snow on your tongues until it's been snowing for a long time. Also, purportedly, freshly fallen snow after like a snow storm is good enough to consume)

[toxic dragon]

Looking forward to this month's Thursdoid about water / sewage treatment. 😄

Maybe even more ways to collect water / purify water / do some chemical class with water + agents. 😄

OOOooo! Possibly, we can finally use the microscopes scattered in labs in Project Zomboid? 😄

[inland mica]

I wonder how they’re gonna go about sprinkler systems, if that were to be added

or whether soil tiles closer to a body of water will be more fertile/boost growth speed and health of crops. Probably won’t even have to water those particular soil tiles as frequently

[opaque jewel]

sprinkler systems are hooked up to the city water supply, and would therefore go out when water goes out

[inland mica]

then perhaps a DIY sprinkler system with tubing and components we can make/loot and the source of water being a rain collector barrel or something (I’m not too knowledgeable on the details)

[viscid dirge]

mmm, curious, but I think more realistic would be for water to go bad after a set period of time, I.e contaminated even in sinks. Now, there is a mod for this but would be nice to have an option in the sandbox.

[strange steppe]

Do you thinks would be possible with the new "wilderness random gen" that will expand "map size", use both mods like "poject Russia" and "project France" on same game?

I mean there will be a way to make so various "mod maps" could be automatically allocated on cells out of the primary map (the vanilla one) without overlap (may be on a random way)?

[quaint finch]

anyone have a clue when the #knoxevent will continue

  — The Knox Event in Real Time (@TheKnoxEvent)
  Aug 8, 2023```

bro has been gone for a glass of water for a long time...

[quick patrol]

It's on hiatus until a cure is found

[plain pier]

Just install a mod smh

[flint adder]

Press Q

[crisp quail]

can we have animal crackers

[knotty saffron]

b42 only after WW3

[quiet spear]

so, how unstable are the unstable builds usually? like, game breaking, save corrupting unstable?

B42 is the first update I will see released, which is funny because I have been playing for over a year now

and yet I have no idea how it works

[sage stump]

When unstable builds are released, they're on a branch called "IWBUMS". This stands for "I Will Back Up My Save" & that is what you should do regardless of the answer

That said, in my experience it should be playable without constant fear of things suddenly exploding on you. If it does happen that's just a bug to report so it can be fixed & not happen on stable

[crisp quail]

I dont really recall how "unstable" past builds were and i dont remember corrupt saves because i played with mods on iwbums , eish i could halp

[toxic dragon]

Maybe it is just simpler. Disallow people from using toilets to get water from for drinking, even when it is plumbed from rain collectors from above.

[opaque jewel]

when I played B41 unstable, it was actually pretty stable

some things didn't work too great, i had the occasional situation where trying to sit down wouldn't work, and menus not doing things as intended, but to actually play it wasn't that distracting

B42 unstable will likely be very playable

[inland mica]

disallow water from both the toilet bowl and toilet tank? Toilet tank water might be fine, but perhaps they can make it have a chance of being tainted too

[opaque jewel]

all reservoir water should go bad after some time

i find it odd that we can drink perfectly safe water from plumbing months after it's gone stagnant

having it stay potable forever makes water far less of a concern, especially when entering unexplored territory

[toxic dragon]

Maybe the plumbing no longer makes magically filtered fresh water from rain collectors above. And now one must require boiling the water even after obtaining from plumbing.

Hooray for realism

[twilit bloom]

I dont see how disallowing anything helps. Like kachowski said, just need a stagnation system. But yeah the devs are faced with the challenge of maintaining the fun alongside realism

[opaque jewel]

i agree with this as well

plumbing collectors can be annoying depending on the situation but being able to instantly start pouring swimming pools of clean water is very powerful for little effort

maybe if we could have water barrels that need to be filled with clean water, that can then be plumbed

either that, or require a filtration system to be a result of a skill / crafting recipe

[inland mica]

I agree with the stagnation system. However, I think it would also be reasonable to disallow certain water sources only after many months or a year. For instance: water from sinks, toilets, and bathtubs. After a year or so, the pipes would be filled with lead, mold, and bacteria that requires much more than boiling to purify + drink.

Also, rain collector barrels (which is crafted with garbage bags) should be changed every few months due to too much accumulation of microorganisms, bird poop, leaves, spores, and whatever else.

After reading all this again tho, I realize it would likely be too much micromanaging

[opaque jewel]

honestly, having degrees of water sterilization could be cool

now that liquids have ratios and specific contents, i could see it being possible for there to be different contaminants that may require more effort than boiling to remove

like you said with bird poop, there could be solid matter in the water that needs to be physically filtered

[inland mica]

engaging with that would indeed be very cool! If it’s too tedious tho, I’ll just hand the toilet-bathtub-bleach-water cocktail to unsuspecting players in MP servers

also, we can’t forget to boil the milk we acquire from our cows! (random and related thought that popped into my head rn)

[crisp quail]

Tottally gonna eat a raw egg straight from the ground, dirt flavored

[inland mica]

and rather than a cooler of ice to place my fish, any caught fish are going straight down the hatch

[visual haven]

To answer this question: from my experience they are actually quite "stable" but will have bugs but not usually crashes. In my years of playing I haven't had any real save corruption (always back up your save regardless!) but there will be times within the beta that you might need to restart due to the way they changed things.

[final hazel]

Those garbage bags will break faster than nasty things acuminating

[final hazel]

Wouldn't very small doses of bleach clean the water and make it safer?

[crisp quail]

Probably only for some bacteria and germs

[inland mica]

^probably. Would be neat if we acquired gradual bleach tolerance too

[viscid dirge]

When I played first time B41 unstable it was really not that different from what was released on stable.
Unstable version is pretty much playable without major game breaking bugs, hence the wait for it.
And this is what should be understandable by everyone, bug fixing is very serious, not gonna enjoy the build if every 10 minutes it crashes and breaks.

and for water, a systems that governs over the state of liquids, after a predefined period of time, it drains or becomes tainted; time which can be adjusted in the sandbox settings

more in depth details can be achieved but the overall feeling is that water, as of now, is really easy to manage

[viscid dirge]

Apparently not that unstable as you imagine, for me B41 unstable was pretty much the same as the first stable version, some minor and insignificant bugs, overall no crashes or breaks.

[vast wind]

To clean with aye, to drink no
Like you can have 'Bleach baths' for different types of dermatitis conditions but it is usually a VERY small amount your adding to the bathwater.
Its never really safe to drink bleach no matter how diluted it is tbh, it contains sodium hypochlorite which is the poisonous chemical they use in most bleaches, cleaners and disinfectants, if you were to keep ingesting this over time you'll more than likely feel sick consistently & die from it eventually, as it damages most of the soft tissue it touches, so mouth, throat, oesophagus, stomach, bowels
(hydrochloric acid is that acid our stomachs produce, mix that with bleach and you get chlorine gas)

[twilit bloom]

🧠

[nocturne arrow]

just thug it out

[pastel inlet]

i hope that water purification tablets are in b42

[twilit bloom]

Oh yeah i get what you mean. But like, rather than removing the option to interact with it, you instead play a dry pipe rumbling sound to indicate no water when players try to use it

[final hazel]

Bleaches bathwater? As zomboid fan I'm highly invested

[nocturne arrow]

OH yeah i completely forgot about that

should be a thing for sure

dont see why not

[viscid dirge]

Don't know if that's medical info but for most of the cases of dermatitis, a topical steroid combined with a numbing agent is prescribed in most of the cases

an atypical dermatitis cause by an underlying systemic disease can't be cured with skin oils or creams, it needs oral or IV administration of different combinations of immunosuppressant drugs.

[pastel inlet]

and they should be rare and a few tablets needed to purify large containers of water

[twilit bloom]

Absolutely. Makes sense to have a rare item to subvert the difficulties of a complex water purity system.

[nocturne arrow]

If theyre ever being added, purif tablets would probably be a consumable item with a drainable amount like duct tape

That is, one package gets you multiple uses

You'd definitely find many of them in hospitals/military bases

and occasionally in households

[pastel inlet]

and camping places

[twilit bloom]

I dont suppose life straws were around in the early 90s

Wow, 2005

[inland mica]

def gonna use plenty of those purifying tablets in my rain collector barrels if I find raccoons bathing in my barrels

[vast wind]

90s life straw = bottle with a scarf shoved in it

[gleaming ridge]

turns u into soap

[still marlin]

Will b42 have more injury types

[twilit bloom]

Just gimme meaningful wound infections tbh

[icy orbit]

Maybe they finally use that special animation in the files

[still marlin]

special animation file? What is it

[icy orbit]

+ = 🤯

[icy orbit]

Me waiting to see everyone get completely mad bcs they keep dying from getting a scratch

[twilit bloom]

Meaningful doesnt necessarily have to mean fatal

[crude blade]

i think the funny gun animation might be one of the few things i can think of that wasnt added to the game despite being kind of advertised as part of the animation update?

i definitely remember they showed it in one of the old showcase videos

[icy orbit]

[inland mica]

isn’t the pillow smothering animation still in the files somewhere too?

[crude blade]

yeah

[peak musk]

Yoo

I know there are going to be a TON of new items to build, find etc

But what if I would like to see the list of all those items?

food for example

(only the ones that comes with b42)

[inland mica]

my guess: I’m sure the Wiki Editors will be hard at work revising the game files, patch notes, and playing the unstable build to provide a comprehensive list of items. I imagine that’ll take a good while tho

[peak musk]

Yeah I have this scenario in head

Just looking for something quicker

Maybe with help of debug mode?

[sage stump]

Would be entirely possible to generate a list of items in b41 & then diff it against a similarly generated list in b42

But depending on implementation some of those items may be stuff like “handle”

[crisp quail]

yah im curious to see how many items were added in comparison

[visual haven]

I'd take a look after playing for a while, gotta explore the new stuff myself

[inland mica]

I’d wager at least 1000 new items we can manipulate and/or craft. They’ve revealed a lot in the previous Thursdoids already

[native wagon]

10 days left until the monthly thursdoid arrives

[nocturne arrow]

approx. 200 new items usable as weapons btw

perhaps a little more, considering the time since the last thursdoid post that talked about it

[pure bane]

Hallowoid

[nocturne arrow]

dude how awesome it'd be if we got build 42 on halloween

probably not happening though

[still marlin]

what if we got it tommorow

How rad would that be

[native wagon]

halloweendoid

it would be interesting if build 42 released in October like build 41.

[inland mica]

I imagine the plan is gonna be to shadow drop unstable around mid-December then the team “disappears” for the holidays except Pat who will stick around for bug fixing

then the team will all return in mid-January thinking they’ll have to undo Pat’s mess but turns out everything is going great and he has it under control

[nocturne arrow]

lmao

[flint adder]

I'd feel bad if the team had to work through the holidays fixing shit so hopefully if it releases around then the launch goes well

[inland mica]

if launch doesn’t go well, blame it on the community

[visual haven]

💯

I know I do already

[crisp quail]

[strange steppe]

That's a good point...
if they launch it this year (as they should do) probably this would happen on November.

They would have some time for a first patch of bug fixing before holidays start...without live the community with game breaking bugs.. because I think they will not plan to work on holiday obviously, work will probably resume next year.

So if they released the unstable always on thursdoid in past (I have no idea about this because I dont remeber), than the end of November is the best catch probably...

[strange steppe]

Not only, if this will happen than the Pat work will be so great that they will release 42 stable for the end of January probably...

[quick patrol]

Absolutely

[visual haven]

They just release it when it's ready, not usually coinciding with Thursdoid

[strange steppe]

This raise the hope in my opinion... They probably would already said it's delayed otherwise

[tidal nova]

might be too late to say this, but I hope the devs haven't been losing sleep(too badly at least) over it

[strange steppe]

Well will be when it will be...

If come out this year good, if will be delayed it will be for good reasons and anyway don't make sense release something isn't ready...

So... Everything is ok... If it will be delayed we still get it in January probably, if not and come out on 2024 than good for us..

[strange steppe]

Just curious...

Did They always annunced the release on thursdoid before the planned data?

[visual haven]

Nope, they always just dropped updates and then when a Thursdoid (was weekly in the past) rolled around they would say something.

[nocturne arrow]

its been a long time since B41 now

i think there would be a lot of outrage if B42 didnt end up releasing this year

even in unstable

[crude blade]

i remember them always announcing it in the previous thursdoid unless im mistaken

[strange steppe]

If this is right, than we have two thursdoid to get our answer

[crude blade]

i mean for b42 they would obviously announce it in a thursdoid but i dont remember them ever shadowdropping a b41 patch before

[onyx eagle]

next thursdoid is next week right?

[inland mica]

yeah, should be on Halloween if all goes well

[toxic dragon]

What will the title be called? "Water is wet"?

Since we were given the hint that the water system is getting a change, nerf or buff regardless.

[crisp quail]

lol i was looking for something in a old tweet

[toxic dragon]

Mall ninja?

Having an actual profession called "Mall ninja" would make the game sound serious.

[crisp quail]

lmao

[inland mica]

sa-mall-rai

probably sounds better in my head

[vast wind]

Aww 😄 Mp Testing Memories!

[crisp quail]

😆

[vast wind]

I have a whole video complation of these lol

[crisp quail]

lmao thats so glorious, i was looking up tweets to see something and came across this lol

[visual haven]

Looking back, looks like you are right, they did make a blog post, but it was on the wednesday not the thursdoidhttps://projectzomboid.com/blog/2019/10/build-41-iwbums-out/

[vast wind]

😄 Lmao
Soooo many videos through all that time

Heres the compilation of most of the ones that never made it into blog posts/tweets 😄

https://youtu.be/wWGRGiVc4As

[visual haven]

I loved watching this video back when I first saw it 😄

hoping you will do one for B42 when it releases 😉

[crisp quail]

lmao yay !!! thanks

[vast wind]

Good good bless ya 😄 I do like to try make some of them funny for y'all

[vast wind]

Of course 😁

[visual haven]

🎉

[crude blade]

i totally forgot about that fire lol

[visual haven]

gosh been waiting for that fire rework and visuals for so long lol

sad it won't make it into unstable

but ah well, maybe at some point

[toxic dragon]

OH WAIT, do we have Build 42 testing compilation video footages?

[crisp quail]

its so funny lol

[crude blade]

i dont think its been mentioned for like 4 years

i think the person working on it moved to work on b41 multiplayer?

[sage stump]

Pretty sure it was in a blog either last year or very early this year if I'm thinking of the same thing

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/01/my-zeds-is-on-fire not this year, but early last year. I think the news of it not coming to b42 unstable was either via tweet or discord idk

[visual haven]

It was indeed, yuri was working on it and then moved back to mp team again

[inland mica]

from our pal Ecn. https://bsky.app/profile/theindiestone.bsky.social/post/3kjqcnauvml22

[visual haven]

Hey thats me!

[inland mica]

that was back in January of this year

[visual haven]

that is actually wild

doesn't feel that long ago

[inland mica]

I hope the future fire rework means we can get flamethrowers (I think the image below show spray containers of some sort)

then players can be like

(artist unknown; saw it on a Reddit post)

[crude blade]

oh i think i must have missed this one somehow wtf

man the fire video in the blog got privated lol

[tiny parcel]

Don't expect Thursdoids to cover anything posted here as an answer to your questions

[toxic dragon]

[crisp quail]

contour 101

[inland mica]

hope the next Thursdoid title contains the letter Z in it. Last one was “Glowing Onez” back in May

[native wagon]

halloweenz

9 days until Halloween and our monthly thursdoid

[nocturne arrow]

yes

[strange steppe]

B42 + bandits ❤️

[tiny parcel]

HorZeless Headman

[gaunt cloak]

SNEAK PEAK FOR NEXT WEEK!!!

[crisp quail]

😆

spoiler alert, gorsh

[inland mica]

[viscid dirge]

Lol, I forgot how long it's been.

[visual haven]

😁 been a bit of time

[viscid dirge]

yis

good times

[visual haven]

It's funny cause I had been waiting and excited for B41 since they first talked about it in the dev blogs in 2015

[inland mica]

Ecn, PZ historian

[gaunt cloak]

Man, I just wanna go around the revamped and new areas of the map in debug mode. I wanna see try out the new crafting system and everything. I wanna see the animals. I wanna try the new fishing minigame.

[fiery socket]

I want to live in a nuclear bunker off in the woods

[visual haven]

❤️

[austere pond]

Same. I want to see underground towns

[inland mica]

first, I will spend hours on the customization menu trying to figure the best occupation + traits along with what’s “free points”

once I spawn in, I will find some money and use the vending machines to get and eat some chips (with the new chips eating animation; no sour cream chips tho), then I’ll go to the secret military base near Rosewood and see what they’ve got underground (take the elevators if I can). Maybe the same thing with Finnegan Research Lab in LV

Afterwards, I’ll go seek out Spiffo’s Secret Sauce and Huge/Mega Spiffo with an encumbrance of 10 and try to find the ultra rare orange raccoon spawn in the forest. If all that is a bust, I’ll become a carrot farmer and overbreed rabbits and bunnies until my PC explodes

[crisp quail]

lol

ahh i forgot about that base

the uhh by rosewood base lol

[gaunt cloak]

Oh yeah, I wanna check out the basements and bunkers, too!

[toxic dragon]

Oooohh, we got confirmation that booby-trapped houses found in Build 41 are temporarily disabled in Build 42.

Scratch that, it's completely removed for Build 42. No more booby-trapped houses.

[flint adder]

Whaddya mean?

[inland mica]

no more buckets filled with water falling on one’s head when opening a door (no idea what they mean)

[nocturne arrow]

i dont remember any booby trapped houses in b41

but if they mean survivor houses that have traps in them, that sounds cool

but ive never seen anything like that

[native wagon]

steps on a false floor with a spike pit

[twilit bloom]

I just hope the second floor stairless base approach dont get nerfed too hard. Ive had some really fun and challenging runs playing like that

[inland mica]

nerf: zombies throw rocks at you

imagine demolishing the first floor stairs of a skyscraper lol the rest of the 31 floors are all yours

build a few sky bridges to adjacent buildings and have plenty of sheet rope entrance/escape routes and zombies can’t lay a finger on you

[native wagon]

floating bases in the sky

[final hazel]

And getting bored to death of walking up and down the stairs

[toxic dragon]

Sometimes, I feel happy that I'm a genius. Other times, I fear my ingenuity.

[inland mica]

valid. If it were one player, they could just use the first three floors. I don’t think it would be very mundane sharing a skyscraper with friends tho

[toxic dragon]

In West Point, there is a house with rigged explosives if you obtain a rare annotated map (internal ID is called "WpStashMap10")

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Annotated_Map_(West_Point)

[toxic dragon]

For context.

[inland mica]

you learn something new everyday

[twilit bloom]

Dying Light one scenario lol

[twilit bloom]

I had something like this going on in a commercial area (cant remember where now) and using the ladder mod, but it was far from an overpowered set up. Coming and going was often challenging, with zeds filling up the lower floors. Having different ways up and down all around the block of buildings was vital as i could lure em to one side and use another side to climb. The balance between having total safety in base but having trouble coming and going is fun

[viscid dirge]

I have thought of that myself but I wonder, isn't that just gonna spoil you ? I mean, wouldn't it be more interesting and enjoyable discovering all of the new stuff by playing the game in normal mode ? finding out and learning how all the new machines, stations and everything that's new works and what to expect of it ?

hence, I think I will play it normally and use the debug command only in buggy situations where no other option is available (I.e stuck in car / RV etc)

[final hazel]

Guys is it just me or female character's model looks like she's about to die from severe anorexia?

[final hazel]

And I want to make my base in there and RP as a garbage man. He would be a late stage alcoholic who wear nothing but tank top, pants he pissed in and flipflops. and everything he owns is made out of scrap metal, tires and stuff like that.

Oh and he would be an engineer so it all seems realistic

[sage stump]

It is just you

[strange steppe]

Honeslty i agree with it 😂

... But it's mods terrain I suppose 👍

Do we know if AnimeZed will be released with stable or unstable build?

[sage stump]

Then it is just the two of you

Unless that was intended to be exaggeration & I just didn't get that—“die from severe anorexia” is a bit much to express that the model is thin

[crude blade]

i think the female model just has really scuffed shoulder weighting which makes it look thin ingame

like theres a really wide gap between the arms and the torso

[strange steppe]

Yeah of course, I think he exaggerated simply to say that he would prefered a different model approach, may be more curvous ecc.. and not imply it seems very anorexic.

Also from me nothing versus it, it's perfectly fine, also again there are some mods if someone want another approach.

This isn't MissZomboid after all..and also beauty is subjective so...

[ivory merlin]

Just wipe maldraugh off the map

[inland mica]

gotta see the Muldraugh glow-up first

either we’ll love it or hate it. Based off what they’ve shown us in previous Thursdoids, seems like most players are fond of the changes

[viscid dirge]

water and power I'm guessing will shut-off after a year ;))?

[inland mica]

as soon as we spawn in

[pastel inlet]

muldraugh lights-out

[final hazel]

Yeah, that's what I was talking about

[final hazel]

Nuh, not curvous (I think saw some freakish mod that makes boobies look bigger, lol). My problem is that female model looks kinda like a stickman and I can't unsee it. I don't want to use mods for it because it may not work correctly with clothes

[nocturne arrow]

yea

i agree

[crude blade]

yeah i wanted to try and fix it but i cant be bothered to make the clothes work

the female model has tons of seams as well its really annoying

cant wear tank tops because the texture stretches like crazy and then has a line down the back lol

[final hazel]

Off topic but as eastern European I find word "curvous" extremely funny

Every time I try to pronounce it I end up swearing in polish

[native wagon]

lol

[strange steppe]

From Italy here so I can understand 😂😂

To be completely honest I would prefer it too, I'm a fan of 🍐shape on woman for example 😂, so i would like something more extrmized 👍

But I suppose we are going off topic😁

Probably would be cool have other shapes, both for male and female

Like fat, skinny, taller etc... but I suppose this would make animations compatibility difficult..

[inland mica]

need some Gargantuan zombies then I’ll grow two squashes for my safety

[flint adder]

There's a chance I'll be close to Muldraugh irl in the near future so I'll make a pit stop and judge how faithful the changes are 😎

I'll also be able to apologize to any of the residents there whos zombified versions i have digitally murdered hundreds of times over

[cyan quartz]

Sounds extremely difficult and also why lol?

[inland mica]

and tell the residents to not throw the generator magazines or sledgehammers in the Ohio River when all hell breaks loose one day

[strange steppe]

Yeah, sound difficult for compatibility reasons, I suppose modders should do various different model and this would be an obstacle.

The reason is the fat trait for example, it's not immersive that if you get fat /obesity condition (I don't remember) you look exactly like others, it break immersion in my opinion.

But again.... This is something that could be left to mod I suppose...

Invest time on other game part give more interesting contents actually...

[strange steppe]

And if possible to don't activate home alarms because it create noise pollution and it is a significant environmental problem...

[viscid dirge]

O.o hardcore-ish I see, I liek

[nocturne arrow]

yeah it'd be nice if it actually changed the visuals

its 100% immersion breaking

[native wagon]

having a chubby zombie that moves slower and takes longer to get back up on its feet

skinny zombie that would make them have them move little faster

[cyan quartz]

Well that's a bit messed up

[native wagon]

glad zombies in build 42 will have some spikes on them adding a better logic to the game

spiked armor to cause injuries to the player if they push them

[viscid dirge]

And let's hope that comes around for zombies as well / other players, if they push or lunge at you. they take damage.

[vast nexus]

Im wondering if modders will be able to create other animals like wolves or bears.

Would be great to have wolves hunt the player like a random event or stumble upon a pack of them and they attack the player.

[strange steppe]

Imagine if they are sprinter 😎

[strange steppe]

Absolutely... When Dev talked about the AnimZed release several years a go the said modders could be theorically be able to create Xenomorph with patience and skill 😂😂

Obviously this would be "a little" out of lore (just a little), but would expect bear and wolf's and who know? Bear zombies may be?

[inland mica]

I’ll craft some dog houses for my pet wolves

then we’ll hunt down some xenomorphs

[strange steppe]

😂

[strange steppe]

Honeslty hope on wolves and bears as mod, I can understand they generally escape from humans, but if togheter in packs, with wildboars and Bears that want protect their puppies would make wild life extreme immersive and dangerous...

[strange steppe]

May be the reason of the outbreak is the Weyland-Yutani 😁

[crisp quail]

Yes

[inland mica]

I'll have to make a raccoon sanctuary if there are wolves and bears

[strange steppe]

Do you mean use raccoon as tank for escape from wolves and build statue to them in their memory for help you survive? 🙂

[vast nexus]

Bears and wolves would be amazing, and of course rideable horses

[inland mica]

I’ll transport the statue from Spiffo HQ to the large area of forest or park I’ve isolated just for the raccoons. Any other animals not considered a threat to raccoons are welcome. Gotta protect these little fellas

[strange steppe]

Yeah but we have already horse!
https://youtube.com/shorts/SKW2ZviIJWQ?si=gRjehjbb12QK36ZJ
😂

[vast nexus]

I was waiting for someone to send that 😂

[inland mica]

"we have horses at home"

[strange steppe]

Nice!😎

[crude blade]

there are some easier methods of doing it but its definitely too late for them to do it at this point

the game already has too many clothing items at this point to make it not a giant pain in the ass

[nocturne arrow]

still sucks.

I guess all we can hope for is some modders to do it

[crude blade]

dynamic body mod already exists but its a java mod so you have to manually replace files

also not really mod compatible

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3066054201&searchtext=dynamic+body

[flint adder]

It would take a lot of effort for something that's not super vital. I do think that visual differences based on the characters weight would be cool but that's probably further down the line

[visual haven]

One day I do hope that is a standard part of the game for sure

[ivory merlin]

Fatass mod

[quiet spear]

do we have a map for the new areas already? Id like to scout it for possible base locations

[twilit bloom]

My first run ill probably base somewhere familiar as that should highlight all the little changes to the gameplay

[inland mica]

wonder if we can spawn in a basement

[twilit bloom]

The idea of basements scares me

One way in, one way out