#AWS server guide

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brisk citrus
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I've never done it but I work on AWS. I'm guessing you'll want a ram focused machine image, like an r5a.large maybe. You'll want to put it in a public subnet in your VPC (a subnet that has an internet gateway) and assign it an elastic ip. Then you'll want to open the game ports in the inbound security group. I think with the internet gateway, elastic ip, the AMI and it's EBS for storage you're going to be looking at as much or more than dedicated server hosting though.

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Unless you make an image of it and then spin it down when you're not using it

cunning sun
brisk citrus
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Nice video, I skimmed through it and it looks good. The c4.xlarge that he's using in the video is going to run about $144/month though...

twin ice
# cunning sun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbWs1pHtzs

Nice thanks you both @brisk citrus @cunning sun
Sorry for late reply, I forgot about my thread
I'll look into it soon, when I'm free. I already got a third party dedicated server up, but I still wish to try AWS for better security and learning

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How is AWS in terms of costs btw?

brisk citrus
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twin ice
brisk citrus
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If there's services you want to use that don't fit in free tier, then start with a plan on how to turn them all off when you're not using them

twin ice
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And a 256gb-512gb SSD to store server on, using Linux OS ig

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Never tried using steam on Linux

brisk citrus
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64gb-128gb ram on AWS is going to be a second mortgage if it's on 24/7

twin ice
brisk citrus
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I use Linux exclusively, steam is very good on linux

twin ice
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It won't be the usage, we would cap at 32 or 64 anyways

brisk citrus
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They don't charge by usage they charge by what AMI you use

twin ice
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On laptop

twin ice
brisk citrus
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for sure, I have several self-hosted servers with hundreds of GB that cost $100-200 used

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and aws server with that much ram probably exceed that cost in a month 😄

twin ice
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It would be easier to custom build a desktop PC to use as a personal and self hosted server, for both storage and online hosting

twin ice
brisk citrus
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yes there's an ami calculator

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they make it kind of hard to find

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I'll guess it's between $0.10-$0.20 per hour

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but I'll look

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that's USD

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you mentioned india so I did it in hyderabad region, but it's actually (very) slightly cheaper in us-east-1 that I'm used to (91.98 USD)

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as long as you set it up so that you can stop the instance when you're not using it though, it would be cost effective at the cost of some convenience

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we use the r5a at work, I think it's a good ami

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(btw, keep in mind you'll also be paying for the ebs storage and no way to stop that, it'll be a constant cost)

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and you'll also likely be paying for an internet gateway

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so that's gonna be another ~$10 per 100gb for storage per month, plus a few bucks for an IP address...

twin ice
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@brisk citrus I was using it just now lol

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30gb ram, 4 core cpu
100% per month, costs 2200 usd

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Dedicated instance too

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Shared instance, costs 400usd

twin ice
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And they can stay up and have already set up game servers and console panels so no need to be on specific OS, I guess

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AWS is more expensive than I expected

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I was expecting max $50 per month budget for atleast 30gb ram, 4 core cpu and 20gb minimum SSD storage

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Being dedicated server it can stay on

brisk citrus
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They're competing with other cloud providers for services you can only get there

twin ice
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I'm currently using Bisect Hosting, on 16gb ram plan

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So far it's running stable with 8 concurrent players , didn't even touch 7gb ram while having 160+ mods

brisk citrus
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Yea I've always self-hosted just because a) I already have servers for other hobbies/tasks and b) I live in a tech area with lots of used servers for cheap available

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So I don't know too much about the service providers aside from just general costs

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Outside of what I use for work, of course

twin ice
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Yeah I heard that an European friend used his personal server to store movies, series, etc and access them from anywhere

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Kind of like, say, having your personal Google Drive, with lot of storage?

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So a desktop PC or server tray can serve as that

brisk citrus
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Yea that's what I do, among other things. There's some nice easy to use software for that, called 'nextcloud'/'owncloud' and some others

twin ice
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While being a host to pz

brisk citrus
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For work I am usually using kubernetes for services so I tend to build in a cluster-style direction personally

twin ice
twin ice
brisk citrus
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It's not really a networking concept per se, but I would recommend looking into kubernetes (abbreviated k8s) if you're interested in learning cloud

twin ice
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In the long run, the self hosted servers can be cheaper than Google cloud, correct?

brisk citrus
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It will come down to several things like power cost, and upfront cost in your area, to where they will 'break even'

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For me I consider them helpful for my career so I overlook cost to a degree but it is smart to consider

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You're trading a likely much lower long term cost for a much higher upfront cost, but how much of a difference exactly depends on your region

twin ice
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Here in India

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The internet is actually cheap, and in some regions power too

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Say you subscribe to jio fiber monthly

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I go for 100mbps plan annually, that costs 8500

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That's $100 a year approx for internet, with uh

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3tb internet limit per month I think, no idea if it's true

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300Mbps plan can cost twice the 100Mbps plan

500Mbps plan, costs like 350usd yearly

Finally, 1Gbps plan costs 600 USD yearly, though if you want to increase limit to 6600GB per month, it's 1200Usd

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Doesn't seem expensive you think?@brisk citrus

brisk citrus
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yea not bad

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I have 1gbps and it costs ~80USB/mo

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so yours is cheaper

twin ice
brisk citrus
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by a third

twin ice
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Or it's unlimited

brisk citrus
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it's unlimited

twin ice
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In india there's no true unlimited

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ISPs try to save money by implementing limit per month

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For jio fiber it's 3300GB

brisk citrus
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yea many ISPs here do as well

twin ice
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1gbs plan has an option to increase to 6600gb, for double the cost

twin ice
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Or overpriced healthcare

brisk citrus
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fiber has slightly helped with the monopoly, in that it got away from the coaxial infrastructure, but in other ways it just creates another monopoly because fiber installation is expensive

brisk citrus
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I don't think I've ever gone over 1000gb

twin ice
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I've went to 450GB in a month

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Using my 5G phone alone, as hotspot for my laptop while at college

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While upload speed is average on 5G, download speed is a couple of times faster than college wifi lol

brisk citrus
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lol

twin ice
# brisk citrus

Yeah, could use better upload speed when I'm working with large files and not for gaming

brisk citrus
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yea I think the majority of my download is other people in the house streaming movies

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😄

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as you can see I am totally using my resources well 😐