I've never done it but I work on AWS. I'm guessing you'll want a ram focused machine image, like an r5a.large maybe. You'll want to put it in a public subnet in your VPC (a subnet that has an internet gateway) and assign it an elastic ip. Then you'll want to open the game ports in the inbound security group. I think with the internet gateway, elastic ip, the AMI and it's EBS for storage you're going to be looking at as much or more than dedicated server hosting though.
#AWS server guide
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In this video, I show you a step-by-step instruction on how to host your project zomboid server using AWS.
Useful links to follow the tutorial:
- https://aws.amazon.com/console/ (AWS console)
- https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD (SteamCMD install)
- https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Dedicated_Server (PZWiki instructions)
- https://calculat...
Nice video, I skimmed through it and it looks good. The c4.xlarge that he's using in the video is going to run about $144/month though...
Nice thanks you both @brisk citrus @cunning sun
Sorry for late reply, I forgot about my thread
I'll look into it soon, when I'm free. I already got a third party dedicated server up, but I still wish to try AWS for better security and learning
How is AWS in terms of costs btw?
My recommendation for learning AWS would be to find a project that fits within free tier if possible, as the $$$ add up fast
You really need to go into it with the idea to minimize costs wherever possible or you will overrun your budget very quickly. Many things charge and it's hard to estimate.
I'm in IT background but not into networking or cloud so I'm not sure how it works
Free tier doesn't specify anything , I only saw set machine configs
If there's services you want to use that don't fit in free tier, then start with a plan on how to turn them all off when you're not using them
Yeah that's why I want to look at setting up AWS for cost efficiency in long run, compared to self hosting on an old desktop pc with semi decent cpu and upgraded motherboard to handle better bandwith and lot of ram 64gb-128gb
And a 256gb-512gb SSD to store server on, using Linux OS ig
Never tried using steam on Linux
64gb-128gb ram on AWS is going to be a second mortgage if it's on 24/7
Well that's what Greatland server uses I suppose
I use Linux exclusively, steam is very good on linux
It won't be the usage, we would cap at 32 or 64 anyways
They don't charge by usage they charge by what AMI you use
I have dual boot, I use windows for games and general work, while on Linux I do OS, database work along with utilising RTX 3K GPU for AI/ML cuda cores speed
On laptop
Ah I see, that's problematic
Self hosted pc connected to a good optic fiber that has cheap plan is a good alternative
for sure, I have several self-hosted servers with hundreds of GB that cost $100-200 used
and aws server with that much ram probably exceed that cost in a month 😄
Tbf in India even used servers cost thousands for shitty specs
It would be easier to custom build a desktop PC to use as a personal and self hosted server, for both storage and online hosting
Any idea on the cost of r5a.large?
yes there's an ami calculator
they make it kind of hard to find
I'll guess it's between $0.10-$0.20 per hour
but I'll look
that's USD
you mentioned india so I did it in hyderabad region, but it's actually (very) slightly cheaper in us-east-1 that I'm used to (91.98 USD)
as long as you set it up so that you can stop the instance when you're not using it though, it would be cost effective at the cost of some convenience
we use the r5a at work, I think it's a good ami
(btw, keep in mind you'll also be paying for the ebs storage and no way to stop that, it'll be a constant cost)
and you'll also likely be paying for an internet gateway
so that's gonna be another ~$10 per 100gb for storage per month, plus a few bucks for an IP address...
@brisk citrus I was using it just now lol
30gb ram, 4 core cpu
100% per month, costs 2200 usd
Dedicated instance too
Shared instance, costs 400usd
Yeah that's fine, from my experience it looks that third party server provider like Apex or GTX or Bisect are actually cheaper than this
And they can stay up and have already set up game servers and console panels so no need to be on specific OS, I guess
AWS is more expensive than I expected
I was expecting max $50 per month budget for atleast 30gb ram, 4 core cpu and 20gb minimum SSD storage
Being dedicated server it can stay on
Definitely, AWS isn't really competing with private datacenters
They're competing with other cloud providers for services you can only get there
Yeah thought so. Some private data centers are overpriced
Some like Indifferent Broccoli don't have servers in Singapore to cater to majority of Asian players
I'm currently using Bisect Hosting, on 16gb ram plan
So far it's running stable with 8 concurrent players , didn't even touch 7gb ram while having 160+ mods
Yea I've always self-hosted just because a) I already have servers for other hobbies/tasks and b) I live in a tech area with lots of used servers for cheap available
So I don't know too much about the service providers aside from just general costs
Outside of what I use for work, of course
Yeah I heard that an European friend used his personal server to store movies, series, etc and access them from anywhere
Kind of like, say, having your personal Google Drive, with lot of storage?
So a desktop PC or server tray can serve as that
Yea that's what I do, among other things. There's some nice easy to use software for that, called 'nextcloud'/'owncloud' and some others
While being a host to pz
For work I am usually using kubernetes for services so I tend to build in a cluster-style direction personally
Nice I would like to learn that, after I'm done with my masters and settle down
Wonder if 2 desktop pcs are good, one cheap for hosting and server not needing GPU, other for gaming and AI/ML work (keeping Rtx and Intel rather than AMD)
Not sure what that means sorry, I'm not very familiar with networking lol
I didn't take any subject on it, so just know some basics
It's not really a networking concept per se, but I would recommend looking into kubernetes (abbreviated k8s) if you're interested in learning cloud
In the long run, the self hosted servers can be cheaper than Google cloud, correct?
It will come down to several things like power cost, and upfront cost in your area, to where they will 'break even'
For me I consider them helpful for my career so I overlook cost to a degree but it is smart to consider
You're trading a likely much lower long term cost for a much higher upfront cost, but how much of a difference exactly depends on your region
Here in India
The internet is actually cheap, and in some regions power too
Say you subscribe to jio fiber monthly
I go for 100mbps plan annually, that costs 8500
That's $100 a year approx for internet, with uh
3tb internet limit per month I think, no idea if it's true
300Mbps plan can cost twice the 100Mbps plan
500Mbps plan, costs like 350usd yearly
Finally, 1Gbps plan costs 600 USD yearly, though if you want to increase limit to 6600GB per month, it's 1200Usd
Doesn't seem expensive you think?@brisk citrus
You have a limit on it?
by a third
Or it's unlimited
it's unlimited
In india there's no true unlimited
ISPs try to save money by implementing limit per month
For jio fiber it's 3300GB
yea many ISPs here do as well
1gbs plan has an option to increase to 6600gb, for double the cost
Still waiting for net neutrality and not greedy monopoly ISPs
Or overpriced healthcare
fiber has slightly helped with the monopoly, in that it got away from the coaxial infrastructure, but in other ways it just creates another monopoly because fiber installation is expensive
that is much higher than my actual usage, so that woudl be effectively unlimited, for me
I don't think I've ever gone over 1000gb
I've went to 450GB in a month
Using my 5G phone alone, as hotspot for my laptop while at college
While upload speed is average on 5G, download speed is a couple of times faster than college wifi lol
Yeah, could use better upload speed when I'm working with large files and not for gaming