The Biomic Man

[midnight harness]

Wrong.

[edgy snow]

sexy

[calm bolt]

So are we looking at animals in the inital release, or later down the line with butchering?

I just want to collect my farm animals

[weak quartz]

Am I the only person complaining about some animations like stomping or wood axe / spear attacks?

(don't get me wrong, they're not as bad as they are in 7dtd but the VARIETY)

[bronze orchid]

like not being added?

[weak quartz]

sort of

[bronze orchid]

im sure they will go back and add animations to things once more important features are implemented firsts

[normal patio]

BILLIONS, must wait for build 42...

[weak quartz]

It is what it is

[distant summit]

Is that a new model for the bulletproof vest? I remember it different

[limpid veldt]

"Are we there yet?" 🤣

[worn moat]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-make-me-turn-this-car-around-snappy-tongs-listen-here-dad-stern-gif-26095191

[bronze orchid]

lol

no turn it around and start from the start

[worn moat]

😆

My favourite bit is the tongs clap at the end of the gif

[midnight harness]

Animals are in.

[calm bolt]

SWEET

THANK YOU

[worn moat]

🎉

[elfin spade]

Do you think guys, that update will override the b41 saves? Or saves gonna be unplayable after b42 release? Im curious if for example animals are going to appear in my saves

[calm bolt]

you will still be able to play b41 even after the full b42 release

[worn moat]

B41 saves will not be compatible

[calm bolt]

you will just have to roll back to old version\

[worn moat]

But you can opt back to B41 build to continue your save

yee

[elfin spade]

Yeeah. Damn. Thats pitty

[worn moat]

So much is changing, so it is understandable

[elfin spade]

Alright then, so magically animals are not going to appear in my world

[worn moat]

haha nope

[bronze orchid]

lol

[elfin spade]

Yeee that was my guess, bases that were made in changed cities, wont magically start being something different. Thanks a lot for the reply 😄

[worn moat]

No problem! ❤️

[tribal valley]

I suppose they want to let us enjoy having animals around before we start butchering them lol

[bronze orchid]

500 chicken army

[tribal valley]

I mean of course we’ll likely still be able to vanquish our animal friends, but I will just imagine in an alternate universe on the very first day of B42 unstable release: “hEy EvEryOnE, I mAdE bAcOn WrAPpeD hOtDoGs!” while wrapped in a deer hide coat or something

[iron fulcrum]

In my stew

[bronze orchid]

bacron wrapped horse dogs!!

[worn moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-riding-horse-horseback-riding-going-for-a-ride-the-pet-collective-gif-14154030

Another alternative reality

[bronze orchid]

puppers on his way to kill zombie and farm some carrot

[worn moat]

😎

[tribal valley]

Rise of the Planet of the Puppers

[calm bolt]

vanquish? Collect is more like it. I want to try to collect every type of animal.

[tribal valley]

iirc we'll be getting chickens, deer, sheep, pigs, cows, rats, rabbits, raccoons, and more fish. Won't have to collect the snails and slugs that'll show up on our crop fields

[ebon cloud]

the new lighting is such a cool touch

[odd holly]

cool lighting & building reworks, can't wait to try once it's out!~

[burnt nebula]

I have a but 3 questions.

1. With the new door technology, will we be seeing collisions with the doors when they are open now that they are animated
2. Will windows get the same treatment as doors, and have animations for opening? Even if they only like spawn the 3d model during the animation and seamlessly get removed once the animation is complete
3. Is there a chance at all that we might see unstable and stable release within the same year?
   Godspeed gentlemen

[brisk pasture]

I mean, unless you want escargot.

[runic badge]

I hope this update is not rushed and that Devs do take their time with it! They are doing such a great job

[brisk pasture]

There is a 0.0% chance that B42 will be compatible with B41 saves. But the longer B42 takes, the longer you have to continue your B41 playthrough.

[worn moat]

🐌

I wouldn't mind collecting snails

for fun not to eat

[velvet quartz]

With how the map is shaping up and the new crafting system it looks like people will be able to play b42 with no mods for a good while

Wonder if it will be long enough for mods to be updated again

[iron fulcrum]

depends on the mod

[spice vault]

Ngl, the fact that they're finally fixing foraging in some manner is neat

[worn moat]

There will be some that are fixed first day, others that will never get fixed because the person has moved on

Just the nature of the beast

[random jasper]

new debug panels?

[worn moat]

Eeeee every time I see it I want them MP zombies more

[distant summit]

The new school looks so ugly... I love it

[random jasper]

yep thats what i saw
hope its included
and i wish they allow us to modify the lua console
its way to small

[desert mason]

You probably won't come out with a full answer obv but on a scale of 1 - 10 how close are you guys for an unstable release?

[bronze orchid]

5 tree feathers

[desert mason]

[tribal valley]

I really don't think they are gonna answer that, unfortunately

[desert mason]

Assuming not

[waxen iris]

I'm so beyond excited for livestock. The only thing stopping me from building a million farms is all the questions I have about what animals need to survive. 😂

[bronze orchid]

ok but can they rest in beds

[tribal valley]

#1255925545875673180 message

[bronze orchid]

cause i want my chickens to have the best BED EVER

ill sleep outside they can sleep indoors

[outer quartz]

the sodium vapor streetlights are such a nice change they look so sexy

[bronze orchid]

yah i never heard of such a thing , trying to find a dumbed down like im 5 version of how they work lol

and who says you cant learn anything from games

[wispy solar]

Didn't the devs show smooth lighting in one of the earlier blogs? What happened to that? Was that too much of a performance cost on the game?

[tribal valley]

indeed. The Spiffo sign is quite mesmerizing at night

[unique dune]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-level-gif-6250973632100210017

[random jasper]

famous

[fathom umbra]

I'm fascinated by the choice of a 10 point scale to ask this question. Even if this were answered what info would it possibly give you

Assuming 1 is “now”, what would 10 even be? Any number greater than 1 provides basically no information (I reversed these numbers here, but you get what I mean)

[desert mason]

I'm just wanting to know how far they are that's all

[fathom umbra]

No but like... If they said 4 what would you get from that

I'm not even trying to be rude here I'm genuinely trying to understand the goal lol

I've worked out that since we know it's 2024 a 10-point scale could be interpreted as the range of dates from now to December 31st, 2024

So I suppose you'd get that much from it, but I'm still tickled by that choice

[muted sigil]

it sounds like beta 42 is coming soon but like they're hustling to get the finishing touches on

[fathom umbra]

We know unstable will be this year which works for me, time flies anyhow

[nova wharf]

This doesn't work, sadly.
I dunno if you've been in a sort of situation in your life, be it in your personal or professional life, where you feel like you're at a place but a setback puts you back on your bum. Be it because you played a ranked game and you think you're progressing well throughout the ranks, but then suddenly you have one bad streak and it puts you back several ranks just for you to then get hardstuck for months in another.
We're not simply filling a loading bar, or ticking off clearcut boxes. New boxes pop up every day. Sometimes bigger boxes, sometimes smaller
You're just sometimes in a situation where for example you think you're approaching an 8 or 9 and then suddenly you fall back to a 7 or 8, and then you are hardstuck for a bit, feeling like you've been at an 8 or 9 for a while now.

So yeah, it doesn't really work like that. Giving you an artificial and abstracted number doesn't give you any better information than what you already have.

[nova wharf]

I mean in the end nobody really knows.
Could be taken out by Electronic Arts hitmen any time.

[tall grove]

Exciting news and thank you for the share.

I'm excited for all you folks are doing. Keep up the good work and make sure to take some time to yourselves.

God speed

[worn moat]

nasKo who leaked you the story of my life? LOL

game dev (or anything creative for that matter) is never linear though for real

[fathom umbra]

Note to self: the EA hitmen are infamous for good reason, will consider them for my hostile takeover of the indie game store

[torn hare]

Fuck the release date whenever this comes out it will be good

The longer the wait the better the update

[primal tiger]

Not relatable, can you explain it in a neolithic context?

[grizzled parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/upload-cat-punch-computer-error-gif-9295601

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wholesome-tapping-waiting-cute-gif-15986961

[humble crest]

Imagine them getting so fed up that they cancel b42 and start working on b43 instead

[grizzled parcel]

So basically MiniDayZ

[grizzled parcel]

That would be hype

[humble crest]

I appreciate your responde

re

response

I get it that you're always coming up with new ideas and can't decide if include them or not, now I understand better that you'll release b42 when you feel like it's complete

Knowing that it will drop on 2024 is enough to me, time flies and before we realize we will be playing it

[elfin venture]

it’s more so stuff that come up after working on a project which you then have to resolve but then it could cause even more things to come up and blah blah

not necessarily “oh what about this idea?”

[untold badge]

Hypnotwist is correct. Neither game development nor programming are anything approaching straightforward processes, even less so when you combine them. New problems pop up all the time because of the ways games and computers work. It can take a lot of time to figure out the solutions to those things.

[worn moat]

DayZ was inspired by Project Zomboid so the circle would be complete. 🎉

[tribal valley]

lol you may have had one too many shots of bourbon, old-timer

[burnt nebula]

[elfin venture]

my guess is that it’s mainly due to how outdated the game is 😂 it’s like trying to move a 100 year grandma to another bed, could shatter with any wrong move

[tribal valley]

[worn moat]

Have I though? https://x.com/rocket2guns/status/399157394841681920

Dean Hall (@rocket2guns) on X

Guys and Gals, Project Zomboid by @theindiestone is on Steam. It's not showing up in the front page http://t.co/VU4OeZnyqR A great game

Twitter · Nov 9, 2013, 12:51 PM

They were inspired by it, and then DayZ hype inspired TIGS to add Multiplayer

[tribal valley]

lol I have no doubts about that. You might wanna reread your previous message tho

[worn moat]

😆 Fair

I accidently a word 😉

I fixed.

ADHD life where you have 18 billion thoughts at once, you try to mash one out of your brain, it just becomes a mess.

[tribal valley]

we all have those moments haha it was funny when I read it at first

[worn moat]

True, was pretty funny once you pointed it out. ❤️

It is definitely a constant for me though, have to re-read things 100 times and still mess it up. Sometimes even worse when I speak lol.

https://tenor.com/view/bb10-jerry-macdonald-not-out-yet-im-not-out-yet-still-here-gif-13907060

[torn hare]

so.. no ETA still?

[velvet epoch]

No and there isn't going to be

People have thoroughly taught them they can't be trusted with the most vague estimate

[torn hare]

I know, but geez i thought itd be months ago

[narrow bronze]

2024 until it is not

[mighty fjord]

Things happen, issues arrive, you have to be patient

Im also very grateful the dev team is very open about the development process, thank you The Indie Stone dev team!

[dry plaza]

You are doing great work, there is always ppl who disagrees about everything. Keep it going, take your time

[wet sparrow]

Im sad for the Bowyery stuff but very glad we finally got a concrete answer on it after all this time

[formal scroll]

The new street light feels so damn cozy, it is a shame that the lights will eventually go out. I guess I gonna disable the complete grid shutdown and play with that mod which makes occasional outages instead.

[storm root]

Not happening in a million billion years, keep your crayons away from my writing

[tall grove]

[wet sparrow]

arent you excited for someone to inevitably wrench an AI Language model into the NPCs at the cost of several firstborn souls?

[worn moat]

Late reply, but check this out https://youtu.be/QMTsmVoLO7g?si=rYuiCYtgPiYEdGd2

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/03/the-zuckerverse/

[nova wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/pardon-me-excuse-me-what-gif-19177073

[proven rover]

THE INDIE STONE
GIVE ME BUILD 42 AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[mighty fjord]

Saaaame

[formal scroll]

Better call Saul Devil

[torn rose]

It's the Pareto principle:

"When you're 80% done, you think you only have 20% left."
The critical part is that the remaining 20% requires 80% of your time. Agree, these estimates never work out

[brisk pasture]

I'd make that pact.

[proven rover]

they would never respond to me

they hate me at this point

[primal tiger]

Aight, but the day after a million billion years when B43 unstable is out, I'll be there.
Waiting.
Crayons, out.

[midnight harness]

Hey she's an experienced woman but definitely not an old grandma, you will surely want some time with her after the surgeries 😜

[primal tiger]

In this metaphor is Project Zomboid a MILF? I am so confused which makes me ANGRY, gonna go hunt MAMMOTH

I've just realised that I've been confusing neolithic and paleolithic. I dunno how, it literally has 'old' and 'new' in their names.

[fathom umbra]

It's all Greek to me

Well, other than the -ic I suppose

[worn moat]

Hmm... If I purchase the 4 pack it is technically more expensive then buying 3 copies individually (I already have the game so I don't get the 4th copy) by two whole cents!

[iron fulcrum]

"They're on to us. Abort mission, I REPEAT ABORT MISSION!!!"

[iron fulcrum]

Who are you going to send it to

You have to give it to people, otherwise you cant buy it

[fathom umbra]

You could always create multiple steam accounts to give it to yourself

Not that I'm speaking from experience of doing that for testing purposes before knowing I could open up multiple instances of the game or anything ahaha that would be so ridiculous of me

[worn moat]

Two friends of mine that I want to play with but can't convince them to buy it

And considering buying a second copy for myself on another account so I can have an admin account for when I do server stuff (so I don't have to logout of my character when I want to do admin stuff cause I keep that separate)

[bronze orchid]

ok omer lol

[humble crest]

bruh i just wanted to be supportive, but ty

[iron fulcrum]

Fair enough

[primal shard]

hey a thursoi

whats happend in it\

[bronze orchid]

spectacular luminescence

[primal shard]

oh wowo

spectaculation indeed

[bronze orchid]

i may have this lamp but tis is the light of my life

[worn moat]

🛋️

[west knot]

looks so fucking good

[noble bough]

first halve of 2024

[worn moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

[lament salmon]

Just noticed this little spot on the new map. I think I saw somewhere the pink areas mean animal enclosure.
I don't recall a ranch or farm between the bar and gas station in Muldraugh. Maybe it's new?

[primal shard]

is that peter

[tribal valley]

who?

[primal shard]

here was an individual i recognize as a peter

i dont know where he vanished

[normal patio]

Billions… must wait

[elfin venture]

i present to you!! a wholesale deal…

[tribal valley]

how’d the transaction go? I believe you’ll still get the 4th copy regardless if you have the game or not

[amber junco]

Those walls are much shorter than your typical fences in someone's backyard.

[calm cosmos]

Probably just walk over

[tribal valley]

there’s probably a ladder we can possibly climb down to reach that area

I see what you mean now. I hope it’s jump over.

[amber junco]

There is no "first half". It's just 2024. From nasKo: #1255925545875673180 message

[bronze orchid]

that hurts my brain to look at lol

[amber junco]

I'm just trying out some new fonts.

[bronze orchid]

are those ledges or wallfence

[amber junco]

Good question.

[bronze orchid]

meant this part lol not your fonty n stuff

although its a little hard to read maybe make it thicker

[amber junco]

I will switch up the font for next time.

[amber junco]

The correct name, according to online resources, is called a "parapet".

[bronze orchid]

had to lookup the laymans term for that lol

[amber junco]

This is better.

[bronze orchid]

yah

[amber junco]

Sooooo, are you able to trip over them?

If yes, it might be a bug

Hah! Take that, pre-B42 bug catching!

[bronze orchid]

cant wait to find bugs

[amber junco]

Gotta me like me, I'm one step ahead of you.

[normal patio]

I can’t wait to eat zee bugs

[desert mason]

they probably can hop over it

[pseudo marsh]

just need to hop over counters to evade zombies.

[worn moat]

I haven't pulled the trigger yet - and you don't sadly, if you have a copy you don't get the fourth sadly (experienced this with other 4packs on steam)

[livid niche]

when you check to see if it has basements and it doesnt mention them XD

[bronze orchid]

to the librarry?

[tribal valley]

“it”?

[livid niche]

the thursdoid to see if it mentions them, the basements is my fav part

[tribal valley]

blasted Steam! I assume you’ve also considered buying the 4-pack from your second account? Two copies for your two friends, one copy for your alternate account, then you’ll have to find one other individual to gift it to

[amber junco]

I don't mind it if you wished to gift it to me.

I'll cherish it.

[tribal valley]

lol

[tribal valley]

I hope not. Roof parapets are at least 30 inches (or 2.5 feet or 0.762 meters). Hitting one of those would cause immense pain to our kneecaps or tibias depending on height. It’s a low probability for someone to trip over them

if our character were to run into one of those, I hope it’s a similar animation when sprinting toward and hitting a wall

https://youtu.be/DQ9-md_EAc4?si=qXgeib3kG3gNTCBJ

[amber junco]

Yeesh, but that's a good challenge

[livid niche]

do you mean like the full sprint and fall backwards animation? cause its funny

[tribal valley]

yeah lol I may or may not have died like that once

[wet sparrow]

I'm confused though does that mean we have like a chance that bowyery could come out at the tail end or is it just entirely pushed back to 43

Also I wonder if some dude will add melee finishers/takedowns to zombies with grapple tech cause that'd be INSANE

Like can you imagine some state of decay style takedowns for zombies

https://tenor.com/view/fresh-prince-of-bel-air-will-smith-ooo-hot-damn-oh-my-gif-4674721

[wet sparrow]

I wouldn't say that
That depends entirely on speed and clumsiness
People IRL trip over waist high things all the time
So it'd honestly be pretty likely they'd just topple and roll over it.

Like if you accidentally walk against it odds are you can catch yourself just fine but if you're coming in fast or already falling over then you're taking that express trip to ground level guaranteed

[jovial mural]

I remember in last months thursdoid, in the beginning it was mentioned that in the following thursdoid there was a possibility that this thorsdoid could mention a better picture of how close we are to unstable, I dont think I saw any mention of that in this thursdoid

[wet sparrow]

Not really no
But I do take confidence in the fact that it has the same vibe the last few thursdoids prior to 41 had

They now know their scopes, what they can do how in the meantime and what to tie up with whomever is responsible and whose help they could arrange

[jovial mural]

for real, just happy that the devs are taking care of themselves with this monster update

[worn moat]

Yeee that is the route I will probably end up going 🎉😁

[tribal valley]

[worn moat]

!dance

[strong mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[tribal valley]

“Bowyery meanwhile (which clearly will require far more animation, tech, combat and design work) will be at the back of the queue, and is most likely to appear in a later version.”

We don’t know fs. Merely speculation here, but I believe many hope that to mean we will see bow-related crafting later in B42 stable as it’ll make the pure random wilderness map more viable to play (unless we can throw spears or something). We’ll see what happens

[amber junco]

It wasn't supposed to.

[amber junco]

Depends on the amount of work. If it needs a lot of time, and whatever decision they make, would have a chance that it might be put into B43.

On another topic, in the Glow Up(date) subject in this latest blog, it seems that with the new building glow-ups, I believed it will solve the one issue with buildings in general in B41.

Empty ceiling holes in roofs.

Walking through roofs feels like you are gambling your chance of survival. Hopefully, new ceilings and decorations also mean the new roofs are solid across the whole ceilings of every building.

[cinder pagoda]

Didnt they say in the last blog post how next thursoid is gonna be we gonna have a better idea of when B42 will drop? Lol, they didnt even mention it. Typical of PZ devs though they never keep promises.

Lol, they gonna remove alot of features shown, the features that are gonna be included half of them wont even have animations... 🤣😂🤣😂

[normal patio]

Bet you twenty bucks you’re wrong in five years 😎

[elfin venture]

on a dev standpoint, seeing how B41 dropped, the only possible thing to do is to make another B41 drop. Problem is i think they bit off a bit more than they can chew with this build. the most you could do is complain about not knowing, but this doesn’t affect the fact that they’re working on it and knowing or not isn’t gonna change when you’d be able to play

Though they did make clear that whatever is coming, they’re making sure it’s being feature complete and leaving out whatever needs more work, i think.

whatever complaints you keep finding, it always ties back to the fact that they realized this update is massive, or that unforeseen/unavoidable problems arose.

so when you really think about it, it’s not that hard to guess what’s going on behind the scenes whenever you have a question… it’ll always be either a problem came up or there’s a lot more work to be done, no need to keep wasting your own and the dev’s time asking what’s going on when you know it’s the same answer every time

[elfin venture]

i say all this ignoring your first sentence btw, which you spoke out of your ass

[cinder pagoda]

As such the Unstable build is not imminent, but with this readjustment of our plans the pile of stuff that needs to be done before release has gotten a lot shorter. How quickly we’ll get the build shipshape remains to be seen, it will take some time to settle, but we’ll likely have a much better picture by the next time the blog rolls around.

What are they implying here fanboy?

here comes the cope

[bronze orchid]

if that helps at all

[cinder pagoda]

they said that in the previous blog u idiot

[elfin venture]

where does it say we will have it revealed, and where does it say it’s promised in the first place?

[cinder pagoda]

u aint fooling anyone with that lame response.. wtf 😂🤣😂🤣

[elfin venture]

it says we as in their team

[bronze orchid]

just ignore them if theyre going to be hostile and call people names

[elfin venture]

lol all they’re ever here for every time

bro saw “we’ll likely have a much better picture” as “you guys are getting the release we promise”

[worn moat]

When in doubt

!dance

[strong mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[wide orchid]

Yooo

[kind cliff]

See ya

[torn hare]

I bet it just a farmland. Crops and shit

[loud vale]

i hope the devs stick to thier guns and just cook at a rate they are comfortable with and dont just release something that isnt quite ready like helldivers2 just because the community is impatient. ive been following these guys a long time and for a game that costed me like 15 bucks back in the desura days the fact they even still support the game let alone still making progress on it is clutch imo i know these guys work hard as hell for us and i for 1 appriciate it.

[fathom umbra]

Personally I think they should drop everything and release the update before it's ready. Right now, in fact. And then I'll complain about bugs

[split oriole]

I've heard about this before but at a 90/10
Never knew it had a name

Also, reminds me of my old boss who hated when someone said that they're 95% done as it usually ment it would never end

[cloud oriole]

"release the update early, devs!"
"Ok, due to the pressure we're going to release it early."
"REE how DARE you release such a broken build of the game in the unstable branch! It should've been finished!"
(obv sarcasm)

[proven rover]

i dont care at this point

[pseudo marsh]

I dont want a broken mess of a game.

[bronze orchid]

some bugs are funny!!

[pseudo marsh]

im sure once the developers finally release a public build 42 it will be lots of fun.

[bronze orchid]

lol

[velvet epoch]

...wait did pizzas blow up microwaves? I guess I never tried microwaving them

[bronze orchid]

lol that would have been funny

base burned down due to pizza

[velvet epoch]

I honestly don't use microwaves at all, they kinda just are a worse oven in the grand scheme of things, maybe if they were good at defrosting things fast there'd be something to it

[bronze orchid]

man i was playing build 40 lol and fast forwarded sleep and just forgot about that supersmash 5000

[jovial mural]

hey another lolcow

pizzas dont cause microwaves to explode, just metallic items

[jovial mural]

oh I guess they did caused the microwaves to catch fire at one point, thats funny

[bronze orchid]

yah i was trying to find weird funny bugs lol

[primal tiger]

I've said this before, but I want the devs to release Build 42 not when they are ready, but on a date decided by an overly complicated series of factors like when a developer's dog learns how to shake hands, position of the moon, when Soul Filcher releases a new mod, when the public figures out the puzzles hidden in each blog, and a random number generator to keep us on our toes.

[bronze orchid]

lol when the mood ring 8 ball says yes

[primal tiger]

💯

[primal shard]

hello bugs

bbuny

[loud vale]

i once took a microwave and set it next to a wall to a building i wanted access to filled it with silverware and turned it on to set a fire and burn down the wall to access building

[bronze orchid]

rofl

dude , HACKER!!!

[primal shard]

did you not burn the whole house

[loud vale]

nah just put out fire with extiguisher once wall piece is burned

dont even need to burn it completely just enough where u can hop on in

[vestal wolf]

Stuff looks great! I have a question about the biomes. Now that there is wilderness on the edges of the map instead of black can you now just walk one way infinitely like in MC and the wilderness will just keep generating as you go or is there an end to the wilderness at some point?

[real copper]

you can vault them, assuming they work the same as similar tiles

[rotund escarp]

It is said in https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/12/zleigh-ride/ to be a "very, very large (though probably not infinite) distance"
lesson learned: don't try to use markdown here

[vestal wolf]

Ah ok thanks for the clarification!

[worn moat]

Also technically Minecraft's worlds aren't infinite either, there is actually a world boundary - just takes a LONG time to get there, and most players never will

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7E8F0G0_bA

[amber junco]

I still think Kurtjmac's attempt is the best attempt for Far Lands.

At least his adventures are more entertaining.

[primal tiger]

I like the Halo 3 method of just gunning you down with giant alien lasers and minefields.

[worn moat]

Problem is, from my understanding, the far lands as we knew them doesn't exist in modern MC that is why I posted that one

Probably far less interesting but gives a good idea of what is going on

[vestal wolf]

I mean this would be cool in Pz, the world being so big that you’ll most likely never get to the end. I just love the idea of have the illusion that the world is endless and there are endless possibilities at my fingertips lol

[worn moat]

💯 it will be interesting for sure, walking into the forest and never returning to any city would be pretty sick

[amber junco]

That still depends on whether it's even possible to reach that far in B42.

[worn moat]

Not meaning specifically for B42, just in general 😎

[sick moth]

Something I'm curious about in terms of art direction, is how they research the setting of the game

I wonder if there are things that are more or less difficult to research from a 90's american perspective

[jovial mural]

I remember the devs mentioned they took in a new member who's a little older and is American so they likely have him as a reference, otherwise there's tons of photos, videos, and written accounts of what the US was like in the 90s

Or just Kentucky in general

[worn moat]

speaking of, lots of zombies with earbuds headphones in pz, and they were so rare in '93

[golden badger]

i'm always so excited to see a new thursdoid come out, they're fun to read. it's cool to see stuff from the dev process, get a glimpse of what they're working on. sometimes it makes me want to learn about game dev myself, or at least get into modding. but yeah, i just think it's cool that they do the thursdoids. not a lot of the games i like do that, and it gives me something to look forward to reading at the end of the month. so, thanks for making them, dev team @nova wharf

[flat verge]

So cool

I’m really glad pz isn’t set in like modern years, ik the 90s were not that long ago but it’s refreshing

[bronze orchid]

i miss the 90s

but i like some modern stuff we have access to now like interweb

[flat verge]

Yeah that’s real

[worn moat]

I do not miss dialup and having to spend entire nights downloading a tiny tiny game 😆

[bronze orchid]

8 disc games

[sharp hemlock]

B42 unstable will be next month I know it

[primal shard]

Of course.

🛸 it would be cruel

if it did not release the upcoming month of july

🫙 .

[tribal valley]

I’m still foolishly hoping for the Ninth of July, Two Thousand Twenty-Four

[weak quartz]

It will be

Prepare for suffering.

[real copper]

it's not coming within 2 months

[golden badger]

it'll be out when it's out. wouldn't you rather they not rush it, and put out something that doesn't work as well?

[warm glen]

Hello my fellas

Hello my goodies

[warm glen]

Yeah! i agree tottally, CyberPunk 2077 for me still sucks (I Never played)

[primal tiger]

Cyberpunk ironically felt less buggy for me back then.

[elfin venture]

anyone know what the usual trend of release dates are before release? (unstable)

told long time ahead before or right before by a couple weeks?

[bronze orchid]

WAT

oops , what do you mean

[worn moat]

not told, it just drops

"Surprise!"

[grizzled parcel]

Another point to note: don’t try and finish the game all in one update

Ppl would appreciate each feature a bit more if it wasn’t mixed in with a tsunami of other things

[bronze orchid]

Lol

[primal tiger]

I don't want a tsunami. I want The Deluge.

[primal tiger]

On my deathbed, I want someone to whisper in my ear that Build 42 Unstable is ready, in 12 months. I want the patch notes to be longer than A la recherche du temps perdu. I want the Pat_Bren AI to attempt to destroy TIGS HQ after being told to write the Thursoid announcing the update and subsequently going mad, which delays the release by another 3 weeks as the future MadDan bans them to Muldraugh. nasKo indifferently orders another dozen PatGPT AIs to be forged. Soul Filcher is asked to code in real-time blinking, and accidentally makes the startle sound for zombies louder by a factor of untrigintillion.

Only then, will I be happy.

[bronze orchid]

Patgpt lol

[worn moat]

I like how the lore is growing within these dev blog discussion threads 😆 ❤️

[amber junco]

30 years ago is 1994.

You are closer to the age of parenthood than you were born in.

[primal tiger]

In my consciousness, the 90's were never a thing. It's something I learn about from others, having not have been on this world until later, and my cognisance until later still. There is a non-insignificant chance that there are adult people alive today who's only knowledge of the 90's comes entirely from this game.

That, and some dope ass youtube music videos.

[wanton quest]

19

[gritty python]

!roadmap

Eh why isnt it workin anymore

[tribal valley]

!pamdaor

[ashen harness]

!roadmap

[tribal valley]

I hope it stays like that

[split oriole]

All I want for Christmas is b42

[primal tiger]

This tbh

Genuinely was annoying as hell. And the folks spamming it knew it.

[spice vault]

Wait is it finally down

!roadmap

At last, peace

[fathom umbra]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:

[gusty atlas]

thank god

[midnight harness]

Damn real time blinking, if only I didn't have to include trait for people that need to blink more, and make it give 8 points....

adds blinking to the game "I have a bug report, game is stuttering"

[gusty atlas]

make it so you have to blink manually too by hitting a key

and if you dont your screen fogs up

[bronze orchid]

oh yay blinking trait, i cannot wait

especially during STORMS!!!

[primal tiger]

Literally unplayable without.

[bronze orchid]

when can we put roadcones on our heads, cause im a danger to zombies

[toxic anvil]

Ahh the 90s... take me back!

[bronze orchid]

[toxic anvil]

[bronze orchid]

i miss everything of someones life not being posted online lol

[toxic anvil]

100% when getting your first super nintento or Sega was unreal exciting, when we could rent movies from blockbuster, when we would go outside all day and only come back home when those funny orange lights come on 😄 best era next to the 80s

[bronze orchid]

YAH lol blockbluster!!!

i miss that place so much

[toxic anvil]

Same... It was like a special movie night going to get yourself a game, a movie and a bunch of popcorn for a chill night 😄

[primal tiger]

The fuck is a VHS?

[velvet epoch]

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2013/02/20/17/pg-37-old-tech-vhs.jpg one of these bad boys

[primal tiger]

Where does the .wav files go on it?

[fathom umbra]

It's some sort of ancient relic I think

[primal tiger]

Meteoric iron reels encased in mammoth-tusk

[bronze orchid]

i can smell that

also only small marigin will ever understand having to save our games constantly, and one mess up would screw the whole game up and you would have to start over lol

[tribal valley]

is it true that people had to get the satellite to see someone running in the 90’s?

[bronze orchid]

lol what do you mean running

[worn moat]

If you are referring to something like the movie Enemy of The State (1998) then that might be the case but Helis already were utilizing thermal imaging cameras at that point

[tribal valley]

so much modern talking, and modern walking in the streets. I need a new desire. Spiffo, take me higher, lift me higher with your speed. I need fire

lol apologies. I’m just being a goof. 90’s talk got me thinking of Max Coveri’s 1998 Eurobeat song “Running in the 90s”

[keen veldt]

delicious stringy inards within

forbidden rollup

[primal shard]

hey its 'wemar'

[toxic anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/cassett-tape-fix-it-gif-14433777

[bronze orchid]

lol , or sticking your pinky in there and hurting it from rewinding it up

[toxic anvil]

Yeah 😄 them nasty cassette grazes
Or sticking the tape back together if you snap it 😄

[bronze orchid]

😆

[worn moat]

You all are unlocking memories for me, making me feel so old 🤣

[primal tiger]

The fuck is cable?

[tribal valley]

ask young people today what the telephone hand gesture looks like and rather than this, they're gonna put one whole palm against the side of their faces

[bronze orchid]

hang loose

[primal tiger]

Isn't there an app for that gesture?

[muted sigil]

real

[eager hazel]

will map mods still work pretty well after update? or will each one need an update to them?

[primal tiger]

They will absolutely require an update.

[fathom umbra]

I think some would technically still work depending on where they are on the map

[primal tiger]

"Technically"

[fathom umbra]

By technically I mean they would still work, but may not make sense with map boundaries/may collide with stuff. Idt that's true for all, though

[midnight harness]

No

[fathom umbra]

I stand corrected, although idk why

[distant summit]

Every single map mod will break on release. Every single one of them.
According to the devs, the only thing the modders have to do to fix them is import the project with the new mapping tools an reexport it again. It's a 20 minute process. Still, I'm not sure if the new mapping tools will be released at the same time as B42 or later

[fathom umbra]

Oh yeah the map height changes

I honestly forgot abt that lol

[midnight harness]

Several changes, including how map chunks are exported and ssved

[fathom umbra]

Makes sense

[distant summit]

I want to see the Havisham hotel in Louisville get a glow up. The place is really underwhelming right now

[worn moat]

gosh I can't wait to get my hands on the new WorldEd/TileZed

if they even still use those

[primal tiger]

What's each member of the PZ team's favourite main base spot, and why do they all suck compared to mine?

[distant summit]

Can't wait for the new tiles. Feels like we see new ones every thursdoid

[worn moat]

😀

[keen veldt]

will you guys change how maps update and pre-existed building structures work

It's very weird that I can completely demolish a building but it still functions like the house is still there

I think the option to have the in-game map update to new building if we wanted or have a system to map things easier

I understand the map is suppose to be for pre-apoc knox but drawing a house ain't it

[distant summit]

I think they mentioned something about that. Or was it about player built buildings being counted as outdoors?

[keen veldt]

Probably the second issue it's more widely talked about

[distant summit]

Fixing one will probably fix the other at the same time tho

[keen veldt]

Maybe but the way it is now is that pre-existing builds are fixed

I'm thinking it might be addressed considering the new lighting system being different

Buildings are fixed in place their interiors will still function even without the building

they will still be there on isoRegions

[iron fulcrum]

It's safe to assume most mods will not work

[cobalt iron]

Yeah for sure those mods are going to need to be updated to B42, hopefully the modders actually update their work because it's going to suck not having some of these mods that are present now in B41

[tribal valley]

which mods are y'all hoping to have for B42?

[primal tiger]

Mod that reverts it to B41

Nah, but solar and more guns and outfits is my hope.

[distant summit]

Bunkers

[primal tiger]

The solar mod we got by Poltergeist is solid, even considering balance. Generators are piss easy, meanwhile solar takes fucking forever to setup. Def feels like a payoff.

[worn moat]

Project Zomboid: Demake edition

[primal tiger]

😍

[worn moat]

🥹

Bring back the alien zombies!

[hoary drift]

back when zomboid was GOOD

[worn moat]

Always was 😄

[formal scroll]

Does anyone else feel indifference towards b42 main feature, the crafting overhaul? I mean it's kinda cool to have but the other stuff like bunkers, light system, etc are so much more interesting. And considering how much time it took to make it just does seem not worth it. I also disagree that it will make endgame more interesting. The endgame typically lacks challenge or something to look for, not resources/crafting.

[primal tiger]

I strongly disagree. I think it's incredibly interesting to be able to start from nothing and have a decent shot at survival if you know what you are doing and are lucky. It makes joining public multiplayer games that much less daunting when all of the identical weapons are already looted. Aswell, given the different skills involved in weapon crafting, it promotes working together with friends to make better weapons than one person could manage on their own.

My merry band of bloodthirsty neolithic cosplayers say 'lmao' to your endgame base.

Or, rather, the series of grunts that translate to 'lmao'

[cloud oriole]

In my group of friends i host a server with, we all like taking different approaches to surviving together, one of them loves to craft makeshift weapons instead of using guns, knows a lot more about the game than us. I love building extremely decorated bases, using firearms, being the designated medic, and exploring new areas. My bf loves cooking, farming, and foraging, and is my backup buddy in exploration and gun toting. The updates being widespread features helps all types of players get something new to chow down on. I too am excited for all the performance and visual enhancements, but i can see the value in all things being brought to b42.

[worn moat]

In the long term it WILL be healthy for the game, think about when a large server has no loot left on it, or when NPCs are released and you are years into a run and there is nothing left to use

better to get the systems in NOW rather then try and build them after and have to redo NPCs

Plus NPCs pumping out crafted items will be useful as heck, being able to trade with communities for things

Might not be very glamorous, but needs to be done in my mind

[primal tiger]

Also, if your endgame is lacking challenge, may I suggest upping the difficulty? Sprinter zombies are a fucking threat, even with endgame kit. But with the lack of a goal, that is something that just happens with survival games. There is Wolf Extraction Quest for a more concrete objective, however. 'Survive for 3 years, then deploy the beacon' and so on.

[tribal valley]

^extract me and I’ll aid you in evacuating

[formal scroll]

I'm pretty sure NPCs could use old system as well. At this point I'm not exactly sure what the new system does besides more recipes (could be made with the old system as well), liquids and pipelines.

[primal tiger]

Sorry, boss.

But this is how I die.

[tribal valley]

[worn moat]

You ever take a look at the old old NPC videos? (Post steam launch, pre-41) TIGS realized they needed to implement animations before they worked on NPCs anymore because half the time the NPCs just looked like they were standing there doing nothing - animations allow you be able to tell what they might be doing at a glance, basically the same concept. Build it up properly, or have to redo it all. Sure they can use the current system, but if they have plans to change it, better to change it now then later down the road.

[formal scroll]

I'm no new player, I know that. What does the crafting system add to endgame? And don't mention recipes, they could have been added to the old system. I hope modders will come up with something, but right now it doesn't look interesting. Speaking of modders, I'd rather have a quest system instead of crafting.

[worn moat]

the big thing in my mind that this system has that the current system doesn't is multistage crafting (example an axe, one person or NPC builds the handle because they are specialized in carpentry, one person or NPC builds the axe head because they specialized in metalworking/blacksmithing) because they want people to be more specialized in their character and not be jack of all trades

[edgy snow]

I also personally think it wont change much tbh

[primal tiger]

Aight, but if the game is lacking challenge, there are tools to remedy that. As for what the crafting system adds to endgame, like I said, it allows for a more dynamic PvP. And it's not just recipes, it's an item overhaul.

[edgy snow]

Maybe midgame at best

[worn moat]

they said many times it won't change much for a lot of people who don't dive into it

[edgy snow]

Thats a stupid argument

[primal tiger]

Lmao

[edgy snow]

Out of all the things you could’ve said you said possibly the worst one

[worn moat]

👀

[primal tiger]

You don't really seem like someone I'd want to impress, given your attitude.

[worn moat]

we catching up

[primal tiger]

If you disagree with something I've said, explain why. Don't call it stupid, because it both doesn't clarify your position or mine, and is needlessly hostile.

[edgy snow]

Wasnt referring to you

[primal tiger]

My point still stands, lmao

[edgy snow]

It might but Im too lazy right now

[worn moat]

better to just say nothing at all at that point

[primal tiger]

From my perspective, 'folks won't like the crafting system if they don't craft things' is a pretty cognizant argument.

[edgy snow]

Just because they said that if you dont dive deep in their system then your game won’t change doesn’t make it good

[primal tiger]

Just because you choose to ignore a part of a game in order to enjoy your playthrough doesn't make the update bad.

[edgy snow]

I’m pretty sure you missed the point there

Most people don’t survive more than a week

[formal scroll]

No one is saying that the update is bad. I say the crafting system is too difficult and time consuming for little to no gain.

[primal tiger]

The one they are... updating?

[formal scroll]

Yeah, the new one.

[tribal valley]

not me. As someone who has seldom used nothing more than QoL mods for the last 500 hours I’ve played, I am very excited for the crafting overhaul. As cool as the current crafting mods might be, I’ve avoided them as much as possible believing that if I engage with the modded crafting—and other game changing mechanics in general—now then it’ll probably result in me not enjoying B42 as much, whatever extent that may be and/or lead me to rely on a modded feature not guaranteed to always be present in a future state of PZ. I anticipate that the crafting overhaul will be an absolute game changer to me regardless of how fleshed out it will be. I’m stoked for everything else as well!

In terms of the crafting overhaul not making the endgame more interesting, I strongly disagree. It’ll help drive the desire or need for community interaction with NPCs and other players since one character will not be able to master everything (I believe they’ve mentioned this in a blog post before). If you’re more of a lone wolf, then you’ll have a considerable list of occupations to explore for some time. It’s up to the player to promote and pursue challenges for themselves through sandbox settings and putting themselves through certain scenarios.

[worn moat]

Taken from their blog post https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

[primal tiger]

So, let me make sure I am understanding you, you say the unreleased crafting system is too difficult and time consuming for little to no gain?

What is this based on?

[formal scroll]

Too difficult to implement. I get it that it's the only unfinished part of the update at this point.

[worn moat]

I wouldn't say too difficult to implement, more like delayed due to dev needing emergency surgery and recovery time

[formal scroll]

Nice point with NPCs. At least now it makes sense. I just hope I will live long enough to see that in game 😭

[worn moat]

amoung possible other factors that we aren't privy to

[formal scroll]

I maybe wrong here but since it's the main feature, I suppose it's been in development since before b41 was finished. Even with the delay taken into account, that's a lot and it is still not ready yet. They even had to drop bowery for now.

My point is, other promised stuff looks more interesting and useful. Basements add new places to explore, the light system is gorgeous, the sounds are great, the newspapers are extremely moddable and more lore wouldn't hurt, and so on. For me basically every other feature looks more promising than the crafting overhaul. I hope it will come together once NPCs are out, but it is yet to see.

[worn moat]

Nope they didn't start working on it till after B41 apparently

I am interested in all of it so I can't really say much lol

Optimizations, building high limits, basements, lighting, animals, crafting, ect.. all of it is exciting to me 😁

Optimizations might be the one I am the most excited for to be honest

[formal scroll]

Same. I'm up for everything on the menu, except crafting. I do want more recipes, but the system? Meh.

[tribal valley]

I hope to live long as well! I have a slightly stronger affinity for sprinters so I don’t see myself getting very far I also wanted to mention that they’re probably wanting to implement a NPC quest system or something along those lines, and I imagine the NPCs will want particular items that the crafting overhaul will grant us the ability to have/gift/barter. I don’t doubt the NPCs will craft things for us as well in exchange for something.

I understand why one might think that the crafting system won’t be that interesting or useful at this time, but we must not forget that we don’t have the full picture yet! Even when the full crafting trees become available in B42 stable (hopefully), we still won’t have the full picture either since NPCs will yet have to interact with them. I have high hopes for all of it like you, fellow PZ enthusiast. In Spiffo We Trust.

[worn moat]

WE LOVE THE INDIE GAME STORE ❤️

[jovial mural]

I actually want to bring a point that the crafting update will actually make late game a little more interesting, because with 41s late game being so stagnant is not so much of there being fewer zombies as they die, but the immortality of tools and gear and the abundance of food

But having to maintain/manufacture new tools or just go out and look for more will actually give us more things to do instead of just having a mountain loot of all the tools we'll ever need and only ever go looking for zombies to kill to pass the time

Regarding food, idk about trapping/fishing in b42, but with hunting and farming it already looks more challenging to procure your own food once the non perishables run out

But as of b41, trapping/fishing/farming just makes you absolutely loaded with food

[tribal valley]

given the expansive list or novel ways to acquire and make and preserve food sometime later on, it makes me wonder if they’ll nerf cooking in the food/overhaul so that even lesser or no amounts of rotten ingredients could be used at high cooking skills

[grizzled parcel]

Is it true the map expansion is multiple times bigger than the luisville area?

[storm root]

And breathing, separate inhale and exhale buttons

[storm root]

That little house with the surrounding fence east of Muldraugh, and West Point Town Hall are where I've had my longest surviving characters, so those

[storm root]

Nowhere near as dense though

[formal scroll]

Dude, that's sick. When?

[calm cosmos]

You can technically already do that if you retexture them

Nerm has been doing that with their zombie retexture mods to bring other zombie games into PZ

[primal shard]

its project zombid

[primal tiger]

Lies

[primal shard]

...

no.itcantbe.

i have been playing candy rush?!

[primal tiger]

They got us all, friend.

[brisk pasture]

#tweets message
SHUT IT ALL DOWN!! THE GAME IS CANUCK-CONTAMINATED!

[pseudo marsh]

Canada day is amazing

[amber junco]

Wished we have more holidays in the USA

(Hmmm? I see the tweet bot repeated itself)

[iron fulcrum]

We literally have July fourth in three days

[worn moat]

Always was - MashPotassium, lead artist, is Canadian and has been around since the beginning.

[primal tiger]

But the game takes place in America! That's why they have Americans of the United States like Pat_Bren writing!

[brisk pasture]

It's joever 😭

[worn moat]

Also we have infiltrated this discord 😉

am Canadian xD

[cobalt iron]

True Music with the boombox/cassette tapes, playable instruments, roleplay animations I couldn't imagine a gameplay without them!

Like look for example

[bronze orchid]

nosferatu aliens

nice reply

[worn moat]

🤣

[calm cosmos]

[midnight harness]

Several aspects of it were impossible or not practical in the old system, which was as old as the game itself. The old system could not handle, for example, all the "passive/background" progress stuff like brewery or drying racks, or the use of fuel/energy by each station. There is a reason why mods that add those things are usually janky, and it is because thevery foundation for that kind of thing needed to be overhauled.

Not to mention the spamming of recipes. Just think about how many new crops will be added, and the many more mods add. The old system needed 2 recipes for packing/unpacking seeds for each crop type.

[primal shard]

pat bren is america

🇱🇷🇱🇷

[weak quartz]

Yo

what about translations??

will there be any in beta?

[worn moat]

I think most of the translations are community done (or used to be) so it will be done over time as the translations are submitted

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/forum/56-pz-community-translations/

[weak quartz]

Yep, that would make sense

[elfin venture]

is there a blog where this is talked about? i didn’t know specific actions on an item are now separate from the crafting interface

[primal tiger]

Gobbles

[primal shard]

my brain enlarges

[primal tiger]

I fall over, my head now too heavy

[tribal valley]

gonna need British English to American English translations. If Pat wrote in “aeroplane” rather than “airplane” then that particular literature item will become unreadable to my character

[primal tiger]

Talking to a hillbilly NPC and they hit you with that "Ello, chap. Might I perchance borrow a bag of sugar? Most assuradly, it will be to the benefit of both parties by Chewsday at the latest."

Or, gods help us, someone speaking Canadian.

[worn moat]

Sorry.

[flat verge]

LMAO

I audition to be an npc pls

[primal tiger]

[hallow verge]

The fact that the recipe spam will go away makes me very happy

[worn moat]

I am pretty sure it was talked about in one of the blogposts, but I cannot seem to find it.

[primal shard]

evil

[primal tiger]

Tbh, I love the idea of a posh recieved pronunciation hillbilly drinking moonshine from a set of porcelein.

[primal shard]

that will be in the game 100%

give it 18 more years

[primal tiger]

I'll be a billion years old by then

[worn moat]

Happy Birthday

[primal shard]

how many items does project zomboid have in its safe

thosands?

[tribal valley]

when Pat Bren NPC inevitably gets added, we need him to insult and curse us every chance he gets. Not enough husks for Pat this week? He’ll leave a note calling your character a “gobshite.” He’ll let the other NPCs know that we could peel an orange in our pockets, and rather than zeds Pat is gonna curse them with the word that rhymes with punt

[tribal valley]

Happy Canada Day!

[worn moat]

❤️

[worn moat]

hoping PatBreNPC gives us near impossible tasks

[primal shard]

clear louisville with stomps

[tribal valley]

make an AI and name it PatGPT

[normal patio]

BILLIONS must wait for build 42…

[narrow bronze]

don't think billions play PZ

[primal tiger]

Runt?

[primal shard]

bagillions must play

[tribal valley]

the other word

[primal tiger]

Blunt?

[tribal valley]

ik you know

[bronze orchid]

[pseudo marsh]

[wet sparrow]

Wonder if there will ever be a mechanic where the amount of grass and edible flora in a pen will decrease over time forcing us to herd cattle or expand pens over time

Kinda like in Rimworld where a pen can only hold so many animals at a time to be sustainable

also the idea of being a cow rustler in zomboid is cool

https://tenor.com/view/horseback-bubba-thompson-the-cowboy-way-alabama-buck-up-cowboy-insp-gif-17861047

Yee-fuckin-haw

[midnight harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0MvWKxZzzQ&t=76s

[wet sparrow]

omg holy i just saw it

yea i shouldnt speed through these

thank you SF

Guess the cow rustler fantasy will infact come true once a madman manages to put out horses

grabbing my winchester and cowboy hat then off on the trails we ride

https://tenor.com/view/pointing-my-hat-lloyed-pierce-yellowstone-cowboy-hat-the-brim-of-my-hat-gif-27094816

[bronze orchid]

when can we live in there

[toxic anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/new-girl-dont-worry-about-me-i-live-here-now-gif-10374362

[bronze orchid]

😆 eggactly

[toxic anvil]

I can see it now... the RV modders creating mansions inside chicken pens

[flat verge]

this would be a great spot for the hide mod to be able to use

[bronze orchid]

and the dog houses lol

[calm cosmos]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3225119469&searchtext=tent

[tribal valley]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-all-those-chickens-gif-20113673

have not seen that animal montage video in a while. No more unhappiness moodle when petting your animals

that got me even more stoked for animals now

[amber junco]

Not enough holidays! We only have like a handful of holidays, while other countries have like WEEKS and MONTHS of holidays. 😭

[tribal valley]

let's all call in sick with the Knox Infection on July 6th

[iron fulcrum]

Oh fair enough

[shy roost]

damn i forgot its july 9th soon

how come we dont see many seasonal decorations in pz?? and since the game starts on july 9th it’d be cool to see someone 4th of july things people didnt bother to put down just yet for example

[tribal valley]

speaking of 4th of July, if they implement fireworks I imagine they’ll have pre-B41 sound radius values

[amber junco]

Nah, it will be similar to a helicopter event, but instead of a continuous one, it will only be a brief one.

[opal crow]

Will the new grapple technology open the way to hand-to-hand combat and more assassination animation?

[formal scroll]

I wonder how long the changelog for b42 will be, if it even makes sense to make one.

[brisk pasture]

They're probably hoping for it

It's probably the major reason why they're making it

You can just imagine what TIS will be able to implement with this.

[calm cosmos]

Definitely

It's technically already doable

[brisk pasture]

Seriously, they can probably improve combat animations and combat systems themselves by a LOT with this tech.

Imagine a freaking sword fight in PZ

[primal tiger]

I hope they still keep the mechanic where you can literally fight off depression with like, a club.

[gusty atlas]

I dont think a sword fight is something grapple tech would make sense to be applied to. that kind of combat is always going to have to be more dynamic movement wise than what would be supported by grapple tech. Stuff like knives and spears with long, movement freezing instant kill animations are the more likely application

[storm root]

Do not expect the Raiden v. Vamp fight in PZ

[wet sparrow]

Biggest letdown of all time

( some backstab animations like in SoD would be baller though. Would make me actually go for backstabs considering they feel a bit funky rn )

[primal tiger]

Until B42, got it.

[bronze orchid]

Awh,but i want chun li jiggle physics

[brisk pasture]

This is like that "20,000 Leagues under the sea" snl skit

[primal shard]

b48 will drop when we drop

[narrow bronze]

What about Old Snake vs Old Ocelot fight in PZ? zeds that used to be boxers and retained some of their skills

[primal shard]

mike tyson zombie

[narrow bronze]

a really nice uppercut but not enough to knock you out, you fall on your back, get hurt and the Tyson-zed falls down too from the blow

don't add Tyson-zed to bite the ear off the player though...

[runic marlin]

Someone's eventually gonna turn it into chivalry/mordhau level shenanigans, I swear lol

[primal tiger]

I want a realistic amount of blood. I know the artists know how much that is, they've killed before and they'll kill again.

[hoary hazel]

Anyone know how the general loot will change? I find it's fairly easy to get setup by just looting your local neighbourhood

[wet sparrow]

Well yea
Youre one guy amidst a bunch of towns that used to house thousands

[hoary hazel]

Sure but wouldn't we see houses being looted by other survivors in the chaos? Don't need NPCs for that

[narrow bronze]

I have a feeling its a necessary evil for game balance. We still see TV/hear radio news for 9 days after the start, and they imply the exclusion zone ie game map area has the living majorly outnumbering the walking dead. I would hazard a guess and say that the default zombie count around your spawn is supposed to have some of the dead being living NPCs instead, and then the chaos starting, living falling one by one (having no clue what a zombie is given PZ universe never had fiction of zeds)

would be weird if the default spawn zombies in the vicinity would be reduced by 90% to make it more "realistic to lore"

so until we get proper NPCs, all the intended NPC population is 100% undead

To conclude, in my "vision" of PZ future is, that we might get a start of a usual PZ save with living NPCs still in their homes, being terrified, possibly fortifying their homes, going to the streets to find out wtf is happening...and as the player, you get the possibility to choose how to proceed. Whether you will rob your living neighbour (who may or may not defend itself, if the devs want to let you play a predator preying on scared living humans), to use the relatively safe-ish start to your advantage and flee the area and so on.

[brisk pasture]

Being a raider will definitely be permitted.

[brisk pasture]

Well, at least we're gonna get building with loot strewn across the floor like someone was looting the place.

[narrow bronze]

Without a doubt. I was more of referring to some NPCs being helpless, unable/unwilling to defend themselves, instead freely letting you loot their place. But you still gun them down mercilessly. I like moral choices at times 😄

Just don't shoot a courier to the head without making sure he/she dies...

[weak quartz]

I hope there will be that new map in closest update 😔

"Many years later"

[hoary hazel]

i think thats confirmed? correct me if im wrong

[weak quartz]

I mean

They're not going to give all of that build 42 content as they're still making it and there will be BETA in this year

[hoary hazel]

that would definitely be interesting, though i imagine quite a few years away 😓

[weak quartz]

And I guess they will focus on crafting/farming and stuff

[hoary hazel]

still exciting to know its on its way

[weak quartz]

||Build 42 is not real||

[hoary hazel]

||It's real to me.. <3||

[pseudo marsh]

build 42 will be excellent.

[primal tiger]

||Somebody sees through the Matrix of lies||

If the NPCs don't know how to handle a caveman raiding their pantry, that's an L for the devs.

[tribal valley]

||pop||||pop||||pop||||pop||||pop||

[primal tiger]

That oddly soothes my brain.

'Tism go brrr

[primal shard]

that was such a joyous experience, please repeat at a random period of time.

[cerulean hare]

The biomic man is kinda hot…

[amber junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UMb-ubySec

Honestly, even a fraction of that, and you will blow me away.

[primal tiger]

Nah, they need to top that or else I want a refund for the game I spent checks notes 251 hours in.

[worn moat]

I enjoyed this 😁

[soft pivot]

Huh bone carving

Can you harvest bone from zombies 👀

[soft pivot]

Tbh I just wish there will be more sense in zombie spawning

And population distribution given the date

Like for the college in Louisville it doesn’t make sense to have it like as if everyone instantly turned into a zombie while going about a normal day

Radio wise things were going pretty bad in Louisville by the time the airborne started taking over

[cerulean hare]

@soft pivot

Dude u sound like u know a lot about this game any tips?

[soft pivot]

Nurse’s video for day 1-5 really helped me out a lot

Oh wow the new lighting looks amazing

opinions on having better sun lighting during the day to show the weather

Like now the default lighting just looks like constant overcast

And it’s kinda hard to tell sunset

Would be could to have directional sunlight shine through the windows during the morning and sunset

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/13in4f6/sometimes_i_daydream_about_pz_with_realistic/

[brisk pasture]

More likely you'll be able to harvest bones from animals

[primal tiger]

Them zombies got the osteoporosis

[worn moat]

I am not Stealth; but the best thing you can do is pickup a weapon and start getting comfy with combat, don't worry about leveling skills and don't worry about dying. Once you get comfy with combat everything will fall into place naturally for the most part

[storm root]

There will be a fraction of it. 0 is a fraction.

[storm root]

No

[calm cosmos]

Maths:
Am I a joke to you ?

[kind cliff]

Fired. I'm now taking over as senior Irishman.

[narrow bronze]

you're welcome

[kind cliff]

Project Zomboid is now set in Ireland, and finally has an end-goal.
Try not to get drunk while playing as an Irishman.

[narrow bronze]

Probably a zed in green outfit at the end of the rainbow...or an unlooted brewery

[primal shard]

100% failure rate

[fathom umbra]

0/1

As long as the denominator isn't 0, it's valid. Pat is exonerated

[narrow bronze]

Omar, Slayer of Vamp vs Raiden PZ combat dream

[fathom umbra]

Hopeful take: with modding, the sky is the limit

[narrow bronze]

I want fist weapons or punching as a weapon in vanilla

[fathom umbra]

Counter-offer: cows

[narrow bronze]

Punching cows to hunt them as they may be more docile than scared?

[calm cosmos]

wtf

[narrow bronze]

An apocalypse is hardly a time for ethics regarding slaughter!

[calm cosmos]

Bro, if you punch an animal, docile or not, it will be scared

And a cow could most likely fuck you up if you do that

[narrow bronze]

All the reasons to enjoy First Aid to the fullest

[calm cosmos]

Fair lol

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-like-thumbs-up-nice-good-gif-13520099

[narrow bronze]

For the record tho, aren't we getting cows as confirmed feature?

[calm cosmos]

Yes

[narrow bronze]

That's what I thought, so going for your neighbours prized cow will be a thing

[primal tiger]

Trading 3 sheep for the best wooden stick you've ever seen

NPC trader has just, a ton of books to trade to your illiterate character.

[amber junco]

Spanish bullfights /hype

[crude saddle]

If thats gonna be the new crafting UI, W

The current one is lowkey ass, too cluttered and doesnt even highlight a craftable item

[tribal valley]

I’ve never had cheese scones before. How are they like?

[mild blaze]

they’re like crumbly buttery savoury cheese cakes

i think they taste like what i imagine American biscuits are like

[bronze orchid]

Savory yummers

[tribal valley]

saw some images of them rn looks delectable as long as the cheese flavor is not overbearing

[bronze orchid]

Can add as much as you want, i agree though too much cheese would be too rich or something

Nacho sconce

[brisk pasture]

https://twitter.com/theindiestone/status/1808518128529191019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42O0p7v6Jns

[tribal valley]

Today, average temperature 61.3 °F. Minimum 52.4 °F. Maximum 68.3 °F. Humidity: 59%... Mild wind from the North-West. Maximum of 26.01 MPH expected. Many, many cheese wheels.

[worn moat]

Cheese Activity detected.

[amber junco]

For tomorrow's weather, there will be a 30% chance of spaghetti and meatballs.

[worn moat]

tbh that sounds delicious and I am fully ok with it

[toxic anvil]

Seen a few folks asking about animals, thought I'll post this here for those that want it, was a Christmas showcase of all the animals you should expect for build 42 🙂
https://youtu.be/zA7260FI9rM

[narrow bronze]

I don't recall ever seeing the video, damn. Pheasants, raccoons too 😮

[bronze orchid]

Cant wait to have animal house party

[toxic anvil]

Deers, Turkeys, Raccoons, Rats, Mice, Pigs, Sheeps, Cows/Bulls, Hen/Roosters and Rabbits 🙂

[primal tiger]

I saw exactly 0 mammoth in that video

https://tenor.com/view/my-disappointment-is-immeasurable-and-gif-20080022

[iron fulcrum]

Why is there a bitcoin jumpscare

[primal tiger]

That's what they used back in the day

Cavemen with bitcoin

[worn moat]

Glorious Turkeys

Hoping to see the plumage one day 😄

[bronze orchid]

Yay chickens!!!

[worn moat]

surprised no cockroaches or spiders to make the basements that much creepier, hopefully that comes in the future

[toxic anvil]

We did have an infinite chicken glitch happen at one point too 😄
https://youtu.be/EjMl595R9tI
(THIS HAS BEEN FIXED SINCE!)

[bronze orchid]

Lol chicken boquet bomb

[midnight harness]

They take exponential population growth very seriously

[weak quartz]

sick

why lighting will never be like this 😭

[pseudo marsh]

the new lighting will at least make using flashlight more common.

[lament salmon]

Love it. Flashlights were just kinda meh in b41. I'm so hyped to know they will be vital for scavenging buildings.

[pseudo marsh]

entering buildings after power outages would be more of a challenge now

[distant summit]

You are supposed to make nights pitch black in the sandbox settings

[lament salmon]

My survivor goes to bed at ten doesn't leave the base till 6. I just don't go out at night.

[distant summit]

Bro has a bedtime during the apocalypse

[worn moat]

Anything that needs to be done can always be done tomorrow no need to risk dealing with potential death at night

[primal shard]

A bedtime is a good thing frederick Cooper

[tribal valley]

new windchill moodle(?)

over-cucumbered moodle

stressed and zombified moodles

I like them all

[pseudo marsh]

very cartoony but I do like

[shy roost]

dont start a war about them again

[bronze orchid]

cool was wondering what that was thanks

Wind whiskers

[tribal valley]

lol

[primal shard]

__

aaaaaaff

these new moddle look so cool

[tribal valley]

I was merely pointing them out curious what the reactions will be when seen in-game soon tho

[soft pivot]

There should be still some moonlight still

[elfin venture]

yoooo the new AI featured on chicken coop? or did i miss that for a while

yep i’m late

was on zleigh ride

no way i missed that, time to read every single blog again to see anything else i missed

[elfin venture]

no, that’s simply golf update

[tribal valley]

mini-golf would be awesome in vanilla

[vivid veldt]

Wait

TIS is a UK company... since when

Welp

Time to stalk another jobs page

[tribal valley]

TIGS* and their HQ is actually located in the Republic of Ireland

[torn hare]

Nah, it means that your character wants to fart badly

[primal shard]

what happens if we dont

[lean frost]

Imagine delaying the update by at-least 6 months and telling people to stop saying what you devs won't. Wild

[calm cosmos]

The nerves lmao

[calm cosmos]

welp, I never saw that

[lean frost]

I don't see this anywhere on the discord.

Where is this hidden post at?

[calm cosmos]

I feel like if we want to improve communication between the community and the devs, we should make that statement public on every plateforms

[burnt nebula]

The only person who said that first half of the month was Lenny

The devs in the Discord then went and said that was not the case

[burnt nebula]

That's from a Thursdoid you clearly didn't read

[calm cosmos]

You know that's enough to be an official statement ?

[lean frost]

Well, it should be in an annoucement, not a Thursdoid

[calm cosmos]

Then when the other devs do different statements that's also official statements

[kind cliff]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/1dpvqm1/the_biomic_man/
Ironic that you'd call this hidden, but take the same post mentioning an optimistic estimate it'd be out on Reddit as not being hidden despite the official statement being in a tweet on TIS account.

[lean frost]

Not everyone reads every single one

[lean frost]

Ironic that you think everyone uses reddit

[burnt nebula]

if you don't use reddit then how'd you know about the first 6 months thing

[burnt nebula]

If it were an official statement they would've slotted it in a devblog or a tweet, not a reddit comment on a random post

[lean frost]

It was stated all over the discord and on Steam, I believe.

[calm cosmos]

Yeah ngl I don't like Vulkan's attitude but I got to agree with him on this point, why is that statement a Reddit comment ?

[burnt nebula]

No it was not

[burnt nebula]

Reddit was the problem

[calm cosmos]

So the post we're talking about rn is also not an official statement then ?

You don't see the problem here lmao ?

[burnt nebula]

sticked comment on a post made by the devs, and the post is a thursdoid

[kind cliff]

It's an optimistic estimate, I probably posted on Steam once or twice. But an estimate, for a company that never gives ETAs should be taken with a big grain of salt.

[calm cosmos]

Which like Vulkan said: not everyone uses Reddit

[kind cliff]

Things don't always work out, and choosing flatout no ETAs ends up better for everyone. Right now it's 2024, until it isn't because life and game development isn't perfect.

[burnt nebula]

It was addressing a reddit rumour on reddit, suitable place for it

[calm cosmos]

No one has learned the lesson or what ? The whole fire we got from last thursdoid and the whole communication problem was in fact linked to the lack of centralization of the information and the problem with releasing statements on Reddit, from different devs, saying different things. And here we are doing it again ?

Hey I got respect for the devs, appreciate the communication on stuff etc but clearly this whole madness started from Reddit statements. I don't even understand how we are here arguing about it

[kind cliff]

I mean, it's on a blogpost that's pinned, stickied as a comment, and highlighted. It's more official than a passing estimate, even if it's by Lemmy.

[burnt nebula]

Lemmy is a good man, dedicated to his work and takes cares of his employee's and his company, but he really isn't the sort of person to deal with the community, just ain't his forte, no offence

[calm cosmos]

I just don't get it, like really I just don't get it, we started from this and we're staying in this, random statements not being said anywhere else. It's not hidden but it's not in plain sight either. Then you end up with the whole community throwing the information, distording it, missing some points

[kind cliff]

Obviously it should have been addressed more clearly, but I think that's what the tweet was for.

[burnt nebula]

Look knowing this community, they could spread it over every platform and people wouldn't get it

There are 3 people in this community. Those who don't care about B42 and enjoy the game as is, those who are waiting patiently and quietly, and those who stomp and scream because they feel entitled to something that's taking a while

The loudest bunch is the problem here, and they're usually ignorant

All we can do is spread the good word when we can

[calm cosmos]

Do you guys just never played that telephone game ? People spreading words to another person and repeat, you get distorded informations and completely wrong informations

[calm cosmos]

But there is in fact a problem, yes there are loud people who are toxic, that I agree, but you CANNOT deny there is a problem in communication

I'm just going crazy, what world are we living in

[lament salmon]

I thought I was the only one to do this!
Just start with 2022 and Beyond and work my way to the last Thursdoid!

[burnt nebula]

For any normal fandom, the amount of communication we're getting is record breaking. Unfortunately the loud bunch actively ignore and twist words of TIS to make the problem worse

The fact that we need to go out and stomp rumours and lies is the problem, not the fact that they're not doing it fantastically

[calm cosmos]

There's a difference between communicating on game features and sharing dev progress and giving out statements randomly, and different ones

Again I don't even understand how we are arguing about this fact

[calm cosmos]

This shit has been a problem since ancient times, demonstrated with that telephone game I mentioned. Idk if that's the right name for it but in french we got kind of a racist name for it so uh not sure if that translates correctly. Anyway the point is you have people needing to share information from voice to ear and that again and again and you end up with distorded informations

I just don't understand how this is not known by anyone working in communications

You just got to avoid this situation or you are bound to end up in these kind of situations

And yes there are haters, but that's absolutely not the point

Haters are amplified by this simple problem

[burnt nebula]

I think the biggest problem is that it's always getting worse to what they expect, so what seemed suitable at the time quickly becomes obsolete

[calm cosmos]

Not that they wouldn't be present, but this problem of communication makes it even worse

Bcs you give them a reason to hate

Causes and consequences, haters are not the cause of misinformation, misinformation is the reason haters are so much present

[burnt nebula]

Lemmy should not of said that statement, but it was then disproved on the Twitter, a devblog, here in the discord and the reddit

People then took that as TIS lying about release dates and backtracking

[calm cosmos]

This is not the problem, you should know on the internet nothing disappears, and such a statement gives so much hype another other statement will come after this first. You end with the community having an information and another part of the community having another information. These 2 end up clashing together and while a lot of people will understand the second information is the most recent one and accurate, you will end up with people being mad (not that it's fair) after this problem of information

Again, my statement from above: misinformation boosts the hate

You could have came back on your statement, the result is out of your control, that's nothing new on the internet

In fact, coming back on your statement can make it worse sometimes

[burnt nebula]

The misinformation was disproven publically, it's purposeful ignorance on the haters end. TIS is trying to act like adults with children

Not saying lemmy was fine to say that, honest f**k up on his end but TIS did what should've been enough damage control

[calm cosmos]

There IS a problem, and denying it is quite wrong. You can blame haters as you want, there is a reason to so much hating (and yes it's not fair)

[burnt nebula]

It's like if someone spilled a drink, their friends helped them clean it up, then someone spilled another drink to complain about someone spilling drink

[calm cosmos]

Of course that helped, I wouldn't be surprised

But don't you think the source of the problem is the switch between plateforms for communication ?

[formal scroll]

🍿

[storm root]

Haters always find a reason to hate, you can't win no matter what

[burnt nebula]

I think addressing the reddit problem on reddit was more than fine, as 99% of people who knew about it found out about it through the reddit

[burnt nebula]

True that Writer/Cool Dude

[calm cosmos]

Of course there will always be haters, but if I kick in an ant hive don't you think you'll more ?

Accidentaly or not, deserved or not

The result is the same

[primal tiger]

I hate this

[calm cosmos]

The original reddit statement went way further than reddit, it was no longer a reddit only statement but a non-officially spread one, you can't just make a statement on the original plateform

[burnt nebula]

Again, most of the community used the subreddit, and of those who didn't would've found out the statement disproving it the same way

[calm cosmos]

How do you even know most of the community uses the subreddit ?

How can you make such a claim ?

[burnt nebula]

Look, everyone wants to save the world they just disagree on how, we can both agree that TIS is trying their hardest and that haters are not making it easier

[calm cosmos]

Of course, but ignoring the cause of the problem is not the way to go

[burnt nebula]

They aren't ignoring the problem, they're actively dealing with it

[calm cosmos]

I truly hope so, because this last statement on the Reddit isn't fixing shit

I really hope they found the way to fix the cause of the problem, but it doesn't look good for now

[burnt nebula]

Lemmy decided to stop posting on social media and TIS purposely avoids giving out ETA's for this exact reason

[calm cosmos]

Anyway, appreciate the work and TIS trying to communicate with the us, just don't want to see them taking wrong steps

[burnt nebula]

The ETA rule isn't a one either

[calm cosmos]

Again that's partially fixing the problem lmao

[burnt nebula]

Exactly

[burnt nebula]

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound a cure

Anyway it's cold, and it's midnight, I'm going to bed

Have a good one mates

[primal tiger]

This is assuming it's a problem. If anything, TIGS should be more cryptic.

I want puzzles, hidden secrets.

[calm cosmos]

Again, half fixing the problem the wrong way

Lemmy is not posting so now it's someone else doing it ? Lemmy isn't the problem
No ETA is good, and I told it day one the statement on half of the year was given that they will regret it, I'm sure you could find traces of me typing that back then

[kind cliff]

@calm cosmos Hopefully this puts a rest to it.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to get to about communication, you're making it sound like there's been ten different timeframes given, with each moderator and developer saying different things. Lemmy said optimistically, on Reddit, that he believed the build would be out in the first half. Fair to assume that could be the case for most people when it's a developer posting it.
A tweet said 2024, which could both have been the first half, or later in the year. There's not a big difference between that.

But people really homed in on the first half of the year, and it's not like we didn't have a reason to believe it internally which is why it was given and regurgitated by some of us. It was missed, and the current aim is 2024. These things happen. It was what we believed was a fair timeframe, and were trying to be communicable with everyone, Unofficial, official, whatever. We never give ETAs, and this is the reason why.

The misconception between 2024 and first half of 2024? I can see that as miscommunication, and we should have really made it clearer that it's an estimate. So 2024 is the current plan for unstable and that is an estimate, assuming things go to plan.

[primal tiger]

I want each dev to say different things. Some lies, some truths. Some devs say tommorow, others say "Cé hé tusa", even more others say that the first people are untruthful and it will obviously be upon a full moon when the day is shortest.

[brisk pasture]

This image should be pinned

[calm cosmos]

Oh I'm well aware of all the points you talked about but thank you for pointing them out more clearly, I never said that it was wrong or not to communicate on an ETA or that it was badly done. The problem was mostly catching back on your feet after announcing first half I feel like. But yes I always understood why you don't want to give ETA and I completely agree

I'm not a game dev, I do mods but when people asked for when I would release new stuff I gave some estimates, but now I don't give anything because I have no idea before a few days before releasing it

And like I said, I'm not even surprised on what happened after the announcement of the ETA, tho I don't agree with the hate of course.

There was an announcement for an estimate, but canceling this information was badly handled in my opinion because yes devs came back on this information (again that has always been my point) and it wasn't official/spread enough on different plateforms to cancel the original ETA. It was always comments below Tweets or Reddit posts, but never like an @ everyone on the Discord AND an actual pinned Tweet on the page AND a pinned Reddit post AND more. The information was badly spread, it was the job of the community to do so

Anyway appreciate a lot the answer

I don't plan on spreading hate or anything else, just I find it surprising that people do not want to acknowledge the cause of all of this

Yes there will always be hate, but it's a fire and a fire can be grown

Anyway sry for arguing so long lol

[kind cliff]

Yeah posting something clear on a blog and tweet and Reddit I'd say would be best, though I'd rather sliver back into "No ETAs, it's ready when it's ready" personally.

But I don't think pinging 100K people is the best idea in the server. They get rabid, hyper and wild, so we only do that when the build is out.

[primal tiger]

The devs are too truthful and honest imho, I want them to stop.

[narrow bronze]

Waiting 6 months under the illusion of the "first half of 2024" means the overall wait is 6 months shorter 😎

[primal tiger]

💯

[kind cliff]

Just a shame really, obviously we'd be excited for it to come out as soon as possible for people to try it so it's not like we're not disappointed with it either. It's exciting for us equally. 😄

[calm cosmos]

Oh yeah I completely agree they should keep the no ETA
But at the end of the day, there will be an official statement, maybe no need for an everyone but there's a few channels to post news on the game and I feel like they deserve to be used (tho there isn't a general announcment channel on the Discord ?)

[narrow bronze]

It's not like the timer resets when an unofficial ETA is missed...

[primal tiger]

Well, that's an assumption.

[nova wharf]

Wouldn't say equally

[primal tiger]

We don't know that Soul Filcher is sitting behind their desk cackling while playing B42, nor can we ever know. Because TIGS recently installed those ceiling turrets.

[kind cliff]

Unfortunately, we missed the deadline so we have to scrap the entire build and start from scratch and hope we make it to the next one.

[calm cosmos]

On that point, I think being quite secretive on the dev team doesn't help. I personally don't know anything about the team and wanting to communicate on the game sure is great but maybe showing who is behind these random news would help ?

I know some people don't like League but I find their devblog to be good because you see in video the persons making those claims and even if they have a massive team and they can't show everyone, you see some of the higher heads that control those teams so you can understand them more, perhaps

[primal tiger]

Yessss

[nova wharf]

Big difference between the excitement of getting something you've made out the door and people (hopefully) enjoying it or looking forward to it

[nova wharf]

No it wouldn't help

[narrow bronze]

that means they can re-make 42 from scratch and personally give you the neolithic mammoth hunting you always wanted

[nova wharf]

People don't want to be dragged out into the public plenty of times

How many dev teams do you "know" know

[kind cliff]

I suppose, all perspective. It's equal for me though to see the buzz around the game + have it fully out.

Can't take my feeling for the rest. 😄

[calm cosmos]

How do you know ? Actual question, is it something you tested before ? I'm sort of new to PZ so I'm not aware of stuff that were done before

[nova wharf]

I can

[primal tiger]

😭 I would die of seratonin overdose

[nova wharf]

They don't compare

[nova wharf]

Wdym?

[narrow bronze]

Maybe with bows, you can get throwable spears, the tech is there

[nova wharf]

How do I know not everyone is comfortable with public exposure?

[kind cliff]

[fathom umbra]

From this big block of conversation that occurred over an hour, my conclusion is that b42 is coming out in 2022

[primal tiger]

Yes.

[calm cosmos]

That's normal yes, and perhaps those that do not want to be part of it can stay out of it ?

[nova wharf]

So what we are currently doing :D

[calm cosmos]

Nvm that will lead nowhere

[nova wharf]

How is your name pronounced btw

[calm cosmos]

The last part lol ?

J v la, not Jula

[nova wharf]

Yeah sir doggy looked obvious lol

Jay Vee La?

[fathom umbra]

My actual serious unsolicited two cents is that I think a good point was raised during all that abt information being split up across platforms & sometimes being difficult to parse due to that. Not really a terrible thing or anyone's fault, but it's an area that could see improvement imo

[primal tiger]

Look, I don't want anyone to have to face the public. I wanna be reasonable, and only ask for Pat's social security number.

...which, I'm not sure if Britain actually has.

[calm cosmos]

Hmm really letter by letter I would say ? Not sure how to describe it haha

[fathom umbra]

Pat's American, US SSN is hidden in the RP server blogs

[nova wharf]

He's not in Britain so that's good

[nova wharf]

Ah so Sir DoggY Jay Vee El Ayyyyy

[primal tiger]

[narrow bronze]

I'd pronounce Jvla like javelin, but "javela"

[fathom umbra]

I've always read it as the Swedish curse

[narrow bronze]

unless Sir Doggy is swedish, then I'd easily see "jävla"...

[calm cosmos]

Lol not exactly xD

[calm cosmos]

Nah it's not, I learned later Jvla is a swedish word tho

[fathom umbra]

This is what I see & I do not think I'll be able to stop

[calm cosmos]

Also a greek word I believe

[narrow bronze]

I don't understand why google translates jvla into "cheers" in finnish

[nova wharf]

So how would you spell the pronounciation out

[narrow bronze]

skål = jvla??

[nova wharf]

Phonetically

[calm cosmos]

It's been a while I've done anything related to phonetics, give me a few minutes lol

[fathom umbra]

I don't think it needs to be IPA for layman audiences lol, just general phonetic spelling

[nova wharf]

fonatigs

[narrow bronze]

hurry up Jvla, pronounciation of your name is crucial to b42 progress, we all rely on you

[calm cosmos]

oh shit

[fathom umbra]

Legend says that once nasKo knows, it will immediately drop

[primal tiger]

This could be interpreted as a dunk on Britain, or a dunk on Pat. I dunno which is better, but I am here for both.

[calm cosmos]

How do you even do phonetics lmao

[narrow bronze]

but google results do not help, they do not find any results related to the meaning of the word

[fathom umbra]

Huh

[fathom umbra]

Just a general guide for the sounds the word makes, like my name would be explained as OH-mar or Ohm-arr

Dictionaries have systems for consistency, but for explaining to people casually as long as it makes sense it's fine

[primal tiger]

Well, the official way is to use a bunch of symbols and letters showing sounds like you'd find in a dinosaur books, but the unofficial way is to just kinda sound it out using english letters exclusively.

So, Nicolai, is Nick-Oh-Lie.

[calm cosmos]

That I know but how do you pratically do it lmao

[primal tiger]

Fuckin' Omar beat me

[calm cosmos]

I know how phonetic works, but how to do it is something else lol

[fathom umbra]

Reporting this slander to the International Phonetic Association

I do not see how this is a difficult problem

[primal tiger]

[narrow bronze]

Clearly you need to send a voice clip of you pronouncing it to TIS, it'll serve as your job application to complete b42

[primal tiger]

Yeah, I'm kinda lost here too.

[nova wharf]

Ω-ar

[narrow bronze]

omega-mar

[fathom umbra]

That's all Greek to me

[narrow bronze]

the final form of Omar

[fathom umbra]

I'm not good at physics

[nova wharf]

I forgot Ohm just used the Omega symbol

[primal tiger]

I don't speak Geek 😭

[fathom umbra]

Me too momentarily, so I was confused at the omega message for a second