Glowing Onez

[north lance]

Sadly I don't doe

[rigid skiff]

You can pay for a server hosting. Pretty cheap, and you just do it for 1 month. After that month, there will be other servers available.

You can then cancel that server hosting service.

[oak kestrel]

new players probably wouldnt make it to a point where all the water has evaporated from the pipes. Tainting happening quickly and then evaporation happening slowly would be pretty fair to new players

[rigid skiff]

I shall leave it up to the devs.

[grave torrent]

i think water should have some zombie virus

[thorn wigeon]

I am glad that the automated emergency broadcasts are able to detect when some rain will happen.

helicopter events as well

[grave torrent]

How does it do that?

[thorn wigeon]

maybe a satellite in outerspace

[grave torrent]

wouldn't it degrade overtime

[thorn wigeon]

automated emergency broadcasts last forever.

[sharp pebble]

It would but depending on what type of satellite we're talking about it could take decades

[grave torrent]

well if the year is 1984

then let me look uo what satelite would be usewd

[thorn wigeon]

1993 is when project zomboid took place in lol

[grave torrent]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA-94

This is what came up

but thats a GPS

hmm

[finite tartan]

First of all GPS would be rare, 2nd of all you need operating satellites for it to work

[rancid edge]

besides satellites, ground stations, weather radars, and aircraft observations are also used to help predict weather

that got me wondering if the AEBS will be present in the Many Years Later map

I’m considerably excited that I can’t stop yapping

[rigid skiff]

How would you tell and sterilize the water?

Prion viruses can sustain in 130C temperatures.

[gloomy gulch]

The Many Years Later map is going to be really cool especially because of the large abandoned survivor forts

[rancid edge]

indeed! I could only imagine the beautifully degraded LV and plan out how to carefully avoid the various rat factions at war

[gloomy gulch]

I have been trying to figure out what LV means for the last 3 minuets but I can't

[pine forge]

louisville

[gloomy gulch]

ah

[rancid edge]

ideally, assume that all water sources are contaminated and to best purify the water through a few rounds of distillation. Idt many PZ players would prefer so much work to access clean water. I could definitely see a mod for this tho

[rigid skiff]

Yeah, I personally don't want to deal with this, too.

[oak kestrel]

its currently a sandbox option that tells you whether water is safe or not you can turn on and off

[gloomy gulch]

I hope there will eventually be a larger variety of guns added to the game

[rancid edge]

unlikely but hopefully muskets and Tommy guns for fun

[grave torrent]

bayonet would be a spear

[weary sorrel]

I think over time the automated broadcast should start failing and eventually cut out

And I mean gradually gradually, like an excess of a couple years

I wonder if it’d be possible to ramp up the amount of fzzts to simulate a loss of signal

[visual furnace]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[weary sorrel]

And to build on that, it’d be neat if players could employ wind socks, barometers and other simple measuring tools to gauge and predict the weather on their own; further following the theme of survival independence

[rancid edge]

we shall then become AEBS 2.0 and transmit to NPCs and other players. We'll tell them it'll be clear skies and sunny, but in reality it'll be raining Spiffos and rats so that their crops will drown

[short furnace]

"You're listening to Galaxy News Radio and im your host, Three Dog! Arooo!"

[rigid skiff]

I want to set this in stone (no pun intended) as the default difficulty mode (Apocalypse, Adventurer, Builder).

[prisma ibex]

B42 is gonna be so good!!! It's gonna be one of those games where I discover something new/ didn't notice for a long time 😭 💖

[grave torrent]

i feel b42 will only confuze me for 3 minutes per feature

[rigid skiff]

I'm not too worried about that. The moment B42 drops, the first thing I will do is to look at Youtube, watch, get spoiled, and then play B42.

[gloomy gulch]

sad

[echo locust]

happy

[glossy shadow]

I shall just throw myself into it, cause that is part of the fun 🙂

[tardy rover]

The moment B42 drops, the first thing I'll do is ask "B43 when?"

[glossy shadow]

[vestal stream]

Einshine_V2 Approved 👍

[rigid skiff]

I mean, every time Project Zomboid gets an update, it's always me at work.

I've come to terms with it, and will watch Youtube videos first to know how much there is to know about the next update, before I play it.

[rancid edge]

become a play tester for TIGS. Your job will be to play PZ

[terse kettle]

Bababooey

[glossy shadow]

Dream job 🙂

[rigid skiff]

I doubt they will hire me.

[rancid edge]

not with that attitude

btw based on their tweet earlier, I'd choose the "donut box; empty" option as the more mildly frustrating scenario

[grave torrent]

give it five years

[hushed oyster]

i have a question will xp work change in 42 ? i mean i have to reading book.

something like that etc

[surreal rampart]

it is maintained by the remnants of the military

[gray nymph]

you have never poured chunk milk ?!

[sonic stream]

see at least with the empty box its just empty

when you pour chunky milk on the cereal its 1. stinky 2. mess you clean up and 3. ruined the cereal

[gray nymph]

a week ago i poured out some almond milk i forgot about and it was blue

no idea how the hell that WHAT WHy it was freaking BLUE

[fallen flume]

maybe it was made from these

[rancid edge]

I have. It’s unpleasant lol but I’d be more filled with joy if I were to encounter a donut box (something I eat occasionally) than milk (something I often consume). So I’d be more disappointed and frustrated opening the box and seeing no donuts. Who leaves an empty donut box lying around? With milk, if it’s chunky then we likely cant salvage anything, but with the donut box there still are remnants of crumbs, frosting, or something salvageable which leaves that longing feeling for a donut. And the smell of bad milk and sight of chunky milk would slightly ruin my appetite.

I’d hop on PZ and take my anger out by stomping some zombie heads.

[gray nymph]

lol

[gray nymph]

like when my family buys oatmeal rasin cookie and i eat it because i am illiterate and dissapointed by my own doing thinking its a chocolate chippy

[sharp pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/orson-welles-welles-orson-pas-mal-cest-français-gif-13761350

[north lance]

i hope that when B42 drops we are able to make non spikey metal armor because if that shits mandatorily included i will have a fucking aneurism and refuse to make or use it

like let others play mad max, me i just want my functional shit

i already fully intend to absolutely rip people new ones if they will ever ask me in RP to craft them "Spikey armor"

So far however from every thursdoid i saw im glad though that it seems the spikes are "additions" one can add if they wish

[rancid edge]

then your friends with spiky armor bump into your character, slicing your jugular and die due to failing to bandage it on time

[gray nymph]

lol

[north lance]

i dont get what the point of those would be anyway

"oh you can now accidentally cut people you dont intend to"

its not like the zombies will much care

[gray nymph]

they might have feelings!!

[rancid edge]

beyond aesthetic, RP and trolling purposes, spiky armor sounds like it would indeed be heavy and lead to exhaustion quicker. I also imagine it’d be considerably uncomfortable driving and looting with spiked armor on

[north lance]

imagine forgetting you got spiky shoulder plates and youre trying to squeeze through a door

but yea theres a bunch of historical reason why they just werent used outside of ceremonial reasons

Nr 1 being:

they just dont work. theyre incredibly ineffective and a huge waste of time and resources.

[rancid edge]

def benefits zombies more than us since it’ll degrade our weapons faster, the armor makes them take less damage, and if we accidentally press spacebar to push them then we get scratched/lacerated and do less damage so we’d have to retreat

and some of us will probably look forward to watching videos of challenge enthusiasts playing with a high-population, sprinter-only, and all spiky-armor-wearing zombies lol

[thorn wigeon]

spiky zombies would be dangerous.

riot gear zombies should be resistant to melee weapon and bullet resistant

having to knock off the helmet to expose their head to kill that armored zombie.

[grave torrent]

spiky

[rancid edge]

spiky hair and mohawk hairstyle zombies will prove to be very dangerous indeed

[sharp pebble]

Pretty sure riot gear is not great against bullets lmao

[fleet urchin]

Spiky armour is for zombie defence, makes more sense than in Mad Max

[thorn wigeon]

its crazy how I got bitten by a zombie wearing a mask covering the mouth area.

[gloomy gulch]

a zombie in full riot gear is not that dangerous since he can't bite

[thorn wigeon]

zombies wearing gloves should not be able to scratch or lacerate the player.

[sharp pebble]

hmmmmm

[gloomy gulch]

yeah

[thorn wigeon]

if a zombie is missing its lower jaw should also prevent biting.

[rancid edge]

slightly off-topic, but also hoping that fog and the new lighting conditions will diminish zombie sight in B42

[gray nymph]

whys the wind sound like zombies

explain!!!

[sharp pebble]

I hope they give modders more options to modify zombies stats and abilities

So I can have my framework be even better :>

And a proper way to change zombie stats instead of changing sandbox options from code to change zombie stats

[rancid edge]

oooh! Like varying percentages of zombie strength and toughness? Maybe giving zombies a sense of smell?

[leaden carbon]

@rain adder Good afternoon, do you want to make it possible to connect modifications with a subscription in the workshop, not by downloading from third-party sites, and putting them in the folder?

[sharp pebble]

Yes, more control on zombies is what I want, since it's my expertise lol

[rancid edge]

I just saw your mods on the workshop rn and I think I now have a better idea of what you mean by a better zombie stat framework :O damn, that's really neat! More power to you

[sharp pebble]

:)

[grave torrent]

imagine a zombie, no arms no jaw

jsut a harmless thing that will bump into you

[rain adder]

If I understand it correctly you want players to only have access to mods by subscribing through the workshop? That is not desirable as the game isn't exclusive to Steam and modders can opt to not upload their work to the workshop.

[humble pagoda]

This is the pinnacle of zombie defence

[north lance]

Correction: The Zombies defense

In real life itd just be extremely disappointing and result in the zombie getting vaguely poked at most before the spike bends / snaps unless its a one in a million shot and the spikes are very well made.

That besides- just... hate spikes aesthetically on a personal level.

[rigid skiff]

So, when in Project Zomboid can I start planting my peashooters?

Organic turrets, I like that.

Actually, you just reminded me.

It is possible to create a tower defense game in Project Zomboid. Just build a maze of wooden walls, and slowly lead the zombies into your base while you are on the second floor firing away at them from above.

[rancid edge]

remote potato pipe bombs = potato mines

Plants vs. Zomboids

[humble pagoda]

If anyone wonders how the fuck these spiked zombies keep showing up, it's because of me gingerly and lovingly equipping them with the most dogshit armour I could make.

One of them, a 7ft tall bastard I named "Big Zeek", can't even move because he's so heavily armoured.

[sharp pebble]

Lol

[gray nymph]

can we use them to cook marshmallow puffs

[plush coral]

whats this

[sharp pebble]

From mapping Discord, the flag we can see in a screenshot of the blog of the map changes

[weary sorrel]

If in real life you mean a zombie only dies when the brain is destroyed, sure

But Zomboid zombies can die outside of that rule

[plush coral]

thought it looked like we were getting better res textures lol

[sharp pebble]

This is the better texture

[thorn wigeon]

also notice is that there is another house behind the new police station in Muldraugh

[plush coral]

haha

[thorn wigeon]

its good that police station got some roof access.

[humble pagoda]

Just doxxed that flag fr

[sharp pebble]

Loads of changes

Will be exciting

[rancid edge]

very exciting fs

I can’t wait to scale one of the 32 floor skyscrapers to finally shoot the f||udg||ing pilot that’s ruined many of me runs when I first started the game

[rigid skiff]

I don't think B42 will have a helicopter flying around during the event.

[pine forge]

you'll need the 33rd floor for that

[tardy rover]

A couple thursdoids ago they mentioned vehicles working in multiple levels, going up and down ramps and stuff. That is the first step for a working helicopter :D

[gray nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/tatatattatatatatatattat-gif-94221864463703826

gonan try shoot down lol

[humble pagoda]

Comments like this and the inability to laugh react them are what will inevitably lead me to declaring war on TIGS

[rancid edge]

^I concur. We need emote reactions in #1019996461095735456

[rancid edge]

exactly. Military won’t expect it

[humble pagoda]

I am normal and can be trusted with emotes

[gray nymph]

UH HUH

[rancid edge]

now, which TIGS employee is most likely to agree to emote reactions permissions for us in #1019996461095735456 ? Ping them immediately

[gray nymph]

[glossy shadow]

Kinda what you were talking about https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3252607372 😄

[wise tree]

can a dev confirm if im making things up or not but

i swear i remember a thursdoid saying handwriting will be different for different characters?

like randomised font u write in basically

[fleet urchin]

Nope although would be good

[rancid edge]

why thumbs down to emote reactions, Pat?

[humble pagoda]

With this card, Pat now supports emojis in news

[rancid edge]

perhaps you were thinking of different vocals and sounds for our characters

[weary sorrel]

interesting

[thorn wigeon]

[cold river]

@devs
so with the build coming out asap with less features till it fully cooks, by “less features” does it mean some things that we know about will not be included or will it be as feature complete as it can with what was revealed?

In short, is it simply a “demo” or is it a “beta”

[oak kestrel]

everything thats been said to be coming in the blogs is coming for unstable

things that were explicitly said to be tentative or only shown informally (bow crafting) are unlikely to come for unstable

[cold river]

nice😎

[glossy shadow]

and then pretty much any system that is ready to roll I am sure

[rancid edge]

lol Spiffo’s Secret Sauce

[glossy shadow]

right? xD

I was gonna cut that part out, but it made me giggle

[rancid edge]

“wow! That’s gonna be in B42 too?”

[cold river]

what’s “other tech trees” mean that isn’t crafting?

[glossy shadow]

That is a good question 😄

[thorn wigeon]

Hot spiffo sauce

[rancid edge]

pie-making tech tree besides bowmaking, not sure what else won’t be in unstable. Maybe not brewing?

[glossy shadow]

tbh I would be ok with a pie making tech tree

😄

Ok maybe part of Masonry isn't ready? https://projectzomboid.com/blog/content/uploads/2022/08/stoneworking.png but I feel like that would fall into pottery tech tree

[thorn wigeon]

Making some clay pots

I wonder if we will make an urn

[glossy shadow]

that would be cool

I would love to collect the ashes of my fallen friends

[cold river]

ohh i see i was just generalizing everything that has to do with the crafting menu as “crafting” so i was confused when he said crafting is there but some other tech trees aren’t lol

[wise tree]

seems like a good and relatively easy thing to add with the whole lore and ui update

[rancid edge]

Spiffo Jarring Workstation along with a Spiffo plushie stitching tech tree

[glossy shadow]

Spiffo be praised!

[rancid edge]

in-game feast in the name of Spiffo and TIGS on a MP server when B42 drops

[cold river]

is this release gonna make it even earlier then what the devs planned or was this to remove delays?

[lost bone]

we will find out in the next thursdoid

[lost bone]

So I got a question, since tools and weapons will have individual parts that make them whole, is the same idea getting implented for firearms?

[finite tartan]

I'm more interested if I can have the same tool for years like Trigger

https://youtu.be/LAh8HryVaeY

[north lance]

Yea that's pretty much what I guessed

Bow making hasn't featured at all so far so they'll probably be busy doing black voodoo magic post unstable release to do that

Considering how it's a bit important for the whole "hunting" bit to efficiently happen in low-tech / no loot environments I reckon it's a bit higher on the priority list than like, glass making or crafting engine parts and technical what-nots

[rigid skiff]

Well, we have guns, and throwing knives.

[rancid edge]

and remote detonated pipe bombs for now

[glossy shadow]

Can't wait to fish with a pipe bomb

[rigid skiff]

Molotovs are enough to cook some venisons.

[oak kestrel]

probably not
I dont have the quote on hand either froma blog or one of the devs here, but it seems like theyre generally against making the game milsimmy. Seems like they just wanna keep guns realistic but surface level realistic

[south pasture]

I need it so bad bros

Cannot wait for it to come out even if it’s half baked

[rancid edge]

baked lol

[south pasture]

Hey real shit, do the indie stone dev’s prefer mealy pie dough or flakey pie dough???

[glossy shadow]

Lemmy seems like a flakey pie dough enjoyer to me.

[rancid edge]

lol it'd be cool if he showed up here to confirm

[rancid edge]

how'd you reach that conclusion tho?

[glossy shadow]

Just the vibe get, and vague a recollection of pie talk in the old TIGS forums (before they got wiped out and redone)

[rancid edge]

lol pie talk. My character loves all current pies in-game

[glossy shadow]

😄

Fair, I do love pie

[lost bone]

fair enough, but by parts I was hoping for having to replace things like barrels, recievers, and bolts instead of merging two whole guns together to repair them, I also dont like to play with tacticool tier firearms, I like being a moonshine shack peckerwood with the js2000

[glossy shadow]

So what you are saying is you want Coavins Firearm Repair mod in the base game 😄

[lost bone]

oh ya

definitely not as complex but it just sounds like a natural addition with the new parts system for the tools and weapons in b42 tbh

[glossy shadow]

I would be ok with them going that indepth with it

even a simplified version would be neat

[wise tree]

something that would be nice for b42 is offical and community servers like dayz

instead of only having community servers

[rancid edge]

PZ Realms

[wise tree]

just think it would be good and useful to have offically hosted servers from TIGS and community servers at the same time

[rancid edge]

yeah, I agree. If they do happen to do that, I hope it's a really large number of public ones and that don't reset often. I imagine the increasing demand for third-party server hosting will make them ramp their prices

[scarlet ridge]

take a knife and make eye holes, so restricted vision

[north lance]

Try and fucking hunt a deer with a throwing knife I dare you I DOUBLE dare you infact.

Also
Throwing knives are the most unreliable shit ever

Needs literally years of training to become okay at them and even then they are just straight up worse than a sling with a sharp rock.

Also about the guns:

What If you just don't have one? What if you're playing in the late stage of a server where ammo is next to non existent?

Ammunition and Firearms have a whole heap of problems with them so there is a definitive urgency to requiring bows for a long-term / no looting playstyle

[pliant pike]

I believe there will be bow and arrows and crossbows that can be crafted to help with late game stages.

[north lance]

they are 100% planned and were originally intended to be released with B42 this has been confirmed multiple times

They just wont be released with unstable... probably. except some devs managing to crank that out in like a week in the next two months or so which is preeetty unlikely
But i believe theres a v. good chance itll be released after unstable like trailers were for example in B41

[pliant pike]

Mods will always be an option until the vanilla ones are released.
I’m looking forward to the next dev blog to maybe see a peak at when unstable will release but I’m not fussed if it’s not mentioned.

[north lance]

its funny that now that im going back to thursdoids and the development stream and dev statements and whatnots im seeing how... cyclical this all really is
People were sceptical to high hell about Build 41, saying the exact same jokes, the same things, the same complaints, the same... everything
and devs were equally as brash then as they are now and the community just so.

And it makes you realise something at the end:

We all have a near entoxicated love for this game and we all pour our hearts and souls out over it, which is beautiful in its own right and makes you realise how silly our complaints and worries and all such things really are at the end of the day.

nothing substantially changed, and thats exactly why we are here once again

i am personally very big time on board with the release of B42 unstable with the content we have thus far, as the sheer amount of additions are, atleast in my opinion, worthy to be called a builds release worth and especially so with the other additions TIS will get up to in the 6~8 months of winddown phase before the committal to B43 begins now that they have the scaffolding for futher additions at a phase of completion

The foundation is always hardest afterall, and i will be glad to see the house that the devs and our community will build atop of it now that we can see the last bricks being laid out

[grave torrent]

imagine if we can jump on the helicopt from a skyscraper and die from the blades

[grave torrent]

holy shit wait, can zeds climb ontop of eachother in b32

42*

[north lance]

No

but would be funny

[native solar]

Yes, only a little bit. They can climb onto each other to wail on full size chain fences to eventually knock them over

Can't climb over it

But like knock it over

[thorn wigeon]

watching zombies fall to thier deaths and not survive the landing.

[gray nymph]

oh id abuse the shit out of that lol

comon guys follow me out the window

were going together , hand in hand!!

[thorn wigeon]

when a zombie falls from 2nd story they seem to know how to land on thier feet rather than fall over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=501rdZh0lDA

[sonic stream]

I still want bows 😔

i hope they come quickly

i want to shoot gun and bow

[rigid skiff]

Wait until the next Thursdoid to see what direction the devs will go with B42

My prediction is bows and arrows will be moved to B43. I am just basing this off from the current Thursdoid.

[thorn wigeon]

Bows are good for hunting and having reusable arrows like in the elder scrolls games

once you run out of bullets or materials to make it the bows will be the solution.

[rigid skiff]

Yeah, but it is still up in the air if bows and arrows will be in B42 at this point.

[thorn wigeon]

maybe late build 42 could be possible

[rigid skiff]

All we know is the crafting tree has some features being cut to prepare for the release of B42

[thorn wigeon]

adding bows will need a new skill category

[echo locust]

Then for us to fill out the gaps in the crafting overhaul during Unstable, or perhaps with some smaller releases while Build 43 is under full development.

Based on the blog it sounds like worst case it'd be in the interim, not all the way in b43

[thorn wigeon]

perhaps the beginining of build 42 we just get the basic features before going into better content later down the line.

[echo locust]

That would be the “during unstable” case

[thorn wigeon]

glad 2024 will be the year for build 42.

6 more months left this year for build 42 to release this year.

[pliant pike]

I’m excited to explore the map expansion, we haven’t seen an awful lot of it

[thorn wigeon]

would like to see more of the map being filled in and not being just empty space with mostly woodlands.

glad some existing area buildings are getting reworked and looking more better and not overly simplifed.

[sonic stream]

it would be rather odd if they have hunting but no bows

are they still doing the whole "survive with nothing thing" or is that delayed

[gray nymph]

i wonder how they will balance it so its not op

[sonic stream]

for bows, I would assume they aren't like

fast to relaod

and maybe not as damaging as a gun

but you can get unlimited ammo (assuming crafting of arrows)

[finite tartan]

@pliant pike me too
do we know which IRL towns will be covered?

[pliant pike]

I’m not sure if they’ve said, I don’t think they will reveal too much of the map so people can explore themselves.

[finite tartan]

Afaik we know which part of the map is being extended so I'm just curious which IRL towns would fit in that area

[rigid skiff]

Nice

[tardy rover]

Ekron and Brandenburg

[thorn wigeon]

Brandenburg would be soo cool to visit.

hopefully the fences near Brandenburg will be removed to drive into that town.

[lunar glen]

Screw the towns! I want that luscious Cowboy Ranch tourist trap! 🤤

[lunar glen]

I mean, obviously

[rancid edge]

probs also Irvington and Knob Creek

[gray nymph]

yar! same

[grave torrent]

yar f

[thorn wigeon]

too bad windows 10 will end support next year and will some day need a new operating system to stay up with using steam.

[grave torrent]

What

Will windows 10 really stop like windows 8 and 7

[pine forge]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/end-of-support

[grave torrent]

what the fuck

[sharp pebble]

yup...

Very annoying ngl

Windows 11 is so much fucking worse it's terrifying

Actually makes me consider Linux

[grave torrent]

I think im gonna get linux.

[sharp pebble]

Linux has some problems with gaming

[grave torrent]

eeh

o dear lordie

i hate corpoaret geerd

[ancient salmon]

steam's proton tool makes pretty much every game windows compatable

so there's basically no reason not to make the switch when windows 10 becomes unsupported because windows 11 is genuinely awful

[rigid skiff]

Honestly, it's not that bad.

I'm on Windows 11. I'm not used to it, but over time, Microsoft is able to give enough settings for me to set the layout to what Windows 10 looks like

[rancid edge]

they are changing/removing this? Where else am I gonna get to see some sweet windows and their designs?

[thorn wigeon]

windows store is very nice sad it does not sell computers

[sharp pebble]

The problem isn't what it looks like...

[glossy shadow]

While this is true, most games that have things like battle eye or easy anti cheat will not work most of the time. Friend of mine has been exclusively Linux for the past 5-6 years, says it has gotten so much better (especially since Valve got involved) but between that and the sketchy GPU support it is still rough at times.

[thorn wigeon]

older games stop working due to newer system unless finding a work around to run the game.

[rigid skiff]

That has to do with how programming language SDK specs change over time.

[zenith panther]

Hello my old friends

How are my favorites?

I Love you too Spiffo!

Hello

[rancid edge]

https://tenor.com/view/project-zomboid-project-zomboid-pz-snow-gif-11071774311321883260

[full cove]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[hearty fiber]

will the world work in 42b if we started playing in 41b?

[finite tartan]

thanks

[rancid edge]

no. It’ll be a newly baked build with many new feature and map changes and mechanic additions that it won’t be compatible with B41

[echo locust]

I think the safe answer is “maybe, but probably not / don't count on it”—worth taking “IWBUMS” to heart and make a backup of worlds you want to save before playing unstable, even if saves are compatible

[rain adder]

The safe answer is definitely, totally, 100% no.

[echo locust]

So there's a chance

[rancid edge]

[lunar glen]

Stop it.

It's not gonna update silently behind the scenes. It will literally be in a blog post when they update it.

[ancient salmon]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[ancient salmon]

no man i am pretty sure it is moving

[rancid edge]

don’t take the bait

[plush coral]

The roadmap was changed to that at some point in January I think

Before then it was just B41 coloured in

[grave torrent]

i swear everyone here is going insane over a roadmap

[sonic stream]

I think its moving slightly guys

[grave torrent]

yeah we almost win just gotta get theorange to beat the blue

[gray nymph]

Stap encouraging them lmao

You guys make me double check

[sonic stream]

https://tenor.com/view/cackling-evil-laugh-witch-creeping-gif-5632950

[serene cedar]

i'm gonna blow up my 7 years ,in the apocalypse, character in LV city center surronded by all the zombies in the city, so i can welcome the the 42!

[surreal rampart]

no, they've confirmed it a few times to be no, so just have fun with your world now

[north lance]

Nah i fully believe they will add bows and arrows to 42 with a late patch post unstable release considering without them there simply is no ranged combat whatsoever if you had a server with no loot, which would suck tremendously.

[north lance]

Cant even say im surprised tbh

So much shit changes from the map and the light and the content and the way everythings working with anything that it will break absolutely everything with no exceptions.

[north lance]

afaik still 100% the intention but for rn they wanna wrap up what they got and get unstable out the door considering the sheer amounts of stuff thats already ready then finish it either with patches or B43

[sonic stream]

wont be able to hunt much without a bow and arrow 😏

[gray nymph]

[sonic stream]

Am I wrong?

Unless we can craft guns and ammo

[north lance]

Yea
Traps are fine for smaller stuff sure but low-key boring and can't hunt anything larger.

[sonic stream]

I mean I guess spears exist but idk if we throw them

[north lance]

So it's either "Loot a gun" or bust on hunting anything bigger than a rabbit and btw the answer to that is no

But as I've said... Like... 7x before, we know the devs want it, the devs know we need it, it's been planned for a long time, we know unstable release won't be the finished state of content, so we just gotta bide(n) our time.

[grave torrent]

omg we can!

[rigid skiff]

AHHH, with the B42 map rework being done, are there any chances the Kingsmouth map will be reworked as well??

That starting location where the beds are placed weirdly is the only recognizable memory of that map, and I really wanted that map to be revamped for that 32-floor high 5-stars hotel!

[zenith panther]

How it's going my friends day?

[lunar glen]

A B42 save would OBVIOUSLY be completely incompatible with a B41 save! The map is completely different!

[zenith panther]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[lunar glen]

I will toss your corpse to be eaten by Spiffo

[zenith panther]

Bro, i just want to see!

[zenith panther]

I was trying to chat!

[thorn wigeon]

I am thinking that late 2024 for build 42

[zenith panther]

They said will launch this year!

But maybe will launch at the start of 2025

[thorn wigeon]

so far 6 months left in 2024

[zenith panther]

Yeah! But when was the last update?

[zenith panther]

We are close to two years!

[thorn wigeon]

This will mark 5th year anniversary since build 41 was playable to the public

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Build_41

[glossy shadow]

That build was so jank, was great 😄 basically none of the animation states blended together so it looked weird as heck

but I could feel the potential in the build even then

[rain adder]

Modders have been keeping the jank tradition *stares at dog jumping fence meme

[glossy shadow]

🤣 True

[lunar glen]

They. Won't. Update. It. Silently.

They. Will. Show. Us. If. It. Updated. In. A. Blogpost.

There. Is. No. Point. To. Constantly. Check. The. Roadmap.

[grave torrent]

We have developed a habit

it simply has to be quenched

[zenith panther]

I don't think so, but why you annoyed only by me?

[lunar glen]

I apologize if it seems that I'm targeting you.

[wise tree]

i mean

didnt they change the roadmap quietly though

[lunar glen]

They didn't.

They showed it in a blogpost many months ago.

[wise tree]

fr??

[zenith panther]

You're targeting me since last month!

I have anxiety and sometimes looking at the roadmap here helps me reduce it, as I don't want to be looking at the website all the time!

[lunar glen]

Again, I apologize.

[zenith panther]

I don't know who reported me, but i get 7 day without chatting!

My anxiety was attacked for these 7 days!

[thick cloud]

Because it's spam, which we assumed you'd learn from that yet you keep doing it.

[rigid skiff]

WAIT, wedding dress in B41?

How come I never seen this before?

[astral jasper]

its an event that can happenin churches owo

[rigid skiff]

Oh, I guess that's pretty rare. I don't think churches exist in Kingsmouth.

[rancid edge]

y’all ever encounter one of these towable billboards? It seems to be pretty rare too from my experience. I’ve found it only once in my 500 hours of playtime

[oak kestrel]

I just found one today actually, I though it was from one of my mods

[rancid edge]

that’s my favorite advertisement trailer lol I did not know it existed until I found it that one time. I’m not sure if the rest are also rare too or if it’s just not something often searched for (and so not talked about very often)

thus giving the impression that it’s rare

[wanton marsh]

I mean, a third of pz features and items have some sort of myths or legends surrounding them at this point

[grave torrent]

i once found 8 of them near eachother

parking lot, crashed, another parking lot

[rigid skiff]

There is a rumor from way back where if you attach the billboard to the front of your car, then you do the "reverse car going in circles", the billboard will actually hit zombies with higher damage.

[rancid edge]

sounds like a trap where it’ll flip my vehicle lol

[glossy shadow]

Never heard that one, pretty hilarious

[grave torrent]

I'll test it out

And i'll tell you

Maybe

[rancid edge]

hoping the potential addition of Grapple Tech lets use these to vastly improve our fitness and boost how fast we scale fences

[weary sorrel]

assisting someone over a fence should totally be a function

guaranteening that an injured or exhauset person can scale them

[shell galleon]

So, did I get it right when interpreting the latest blog. A playable variant of Build 42 is happening on time as planned, but some features of it are postponed at least slightly to ensure we'll get build 42 sooner than later?

[oak kestrel]

its to ensure we get IWBUMS sooner rather than later, the actual build 42 should still have the features they intended for release

[shell galleon]

Great, I am not sure if I misremembered, but I recall first half of 2024 being the target release window of first iteration of IWBUMS, so had to come and check out if I read the blog right.

[rancid edge]

the most up-to-date info on the B42 target release window is this year

[shell galleon]

Fair, I do wonder where did I get the idea of the first half then

[echo locust]

It was a previous informal estimate made by a dev (then spread elsewhere), which they've since clarified is out-of-date

[shell galleon]

Very well, I'll remain eagerly waiting to become a sewer rat in-game

[glossy shadow]

https://i.imgur.com/rbt4p7L.png this is why

but it is what it is, game dev is never a linear thing

[wise tree]

its one person though

[glossy shadow]

One person who happens to be the Lead dev.

But, like I said game dev is never linear

[wise tree]

its still one person out of a whole team

[glossy shadow]

of course

I am not suggesting otherwise

[wise tree]

and besides, other devs on the team deconfirmed his estimate

[glossy shadow]

Yes, they did - I was just answering the question

[oak kestrel]

technically we have until july 2nd so we havent missed yet :^)

[glossy shadow]

😄

I really don't care when it comes out myself cause I know we are in good hands.

Because The Indie Game Store is love, and The Indie Game Store is life.

[rancid edge]

so that MadDan gets with the times

[gray nymph]

Lol

[glossy shadow]

😄

[oak kestrel]

i choose to believe itll still come first half of 2024

[glossy shadow]

Fair 😄

[oak kestrel]

they just have to merge all the branches, how hard could it be

[rancid edge]

first half is a stretch. July 9 is the likely date

need that extra week to tidy things up

[warm isle]

I love buying games from indie game store

[rigid skiff]

I got dibs it will be in August. But people will cry and sing "Wake me up, when September Ends" by Green Day.

[rancid edge]

I hope there's a "bug" where B42 unstable has all zombies locked in as sprinters out of spite

https://tenor.com/view/world-war-z-zombies-crazed-rushing-insane-hurry-gif-26776704

[gray nymph]

Yah i cant wait to see what funny bugs

Like puddle floor

[rancid edge]

melted popsicle puddles

[gray nymph]

I think this was a mod issue but lol

My favorite ever lol i hope we get weird stuff like that

Pizza; contains metal

[gray nymph]

Lol

Ok but the best one is still rjs ratballhairpuff rat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986951681822580736/1233853492771160144/attachment.gif

Will that be in the game

[rancid edge]

Bet there are gonna be a few players that will overbreed animals and their PC is gonna takeoff

https://tenor.com/view/astra-rocket-sideways-wsb-wsbn-gif-22898588

[gray nymph]

Yeah and people with servers lol

[glossy shadow]

👋 This is me, get ready for take off 😄

Cannot wait for an admin to tell my I am killing their server and they need to cull my farm 😄

[mental rover]

What if like, you’ll be able to like dress zombies?

Like put armor on them

Could make for some cool rp scenarios

[rancid edge]

your pig farm in B42

[strange relic]

I can’t wait to don homemade medieval armor and go crusading

[rancid edge]

indeed! I imagine a scenario like that one S7 episode in TWD or a unique way to imprison or trap players

[glossy shadow]

This is the dream right here!!

[rancid edge]

[vernal elk]

what in the...

looks like something out of a weird dream lol

[humble pagoda]

Imagine having to throw a spear smh, you bronze age whipper snappers don't know how easy you got it.

[terse kettle]

!ROADMAP

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[terse kettle]

Hmm

[finite tartan]

#soon

[grave torrent]

soonTM

[wise tree]

not mod issue

happens to me in vanilla also

[full cove]

man polish update what the heck

[sonic stream]

It's when they add the polish

[wanton marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/smooth-move-cow-gif-16191603673901327691

[finite tartan]

They replace the map with Warsaw

[rigid skiff]

Spongebob do have every GIF....

[glossy shadow]

😆 truth

[grave torrent]

spongebob is like the well of fortune

[north lance]

another day of people gaslighting themselves into thinking the Roadmap has been in any way updated in the last 2 years or shows any actual build progress

[echo locust]

Denying the truth that it moves one hundredth of a pixel every day 🙄

[gray nymph]

lol

me to steam forums lol

[sonic stream]

You cause your own suffering pup

[gray nymph]

its not that bad lol dan makes it tolerable

PLUS theres cute people in there that live for a week and are super happy about it , i love that stuff lol

cant wait to see all the new players 42 brings n the snicklefritzty scenarios they get themselves into

[rancid edge]

looking forward to the “is this a good base?” meme gaining more traction again during B42 as well lol

[pine forge]

in fairness prtscr never works and win + shift + s is whacky in fullscreen
And f12 saves the screenshot to the bottom of the atlantic ocean

[rancid edge]

perhaps for the time being

[echo locust]

Win + shift + s usually works if you do it a second time in PZ

[rancid edge]

let’s be real: keyboard shortcuts are way too complex and no one likes to repeat themselves, so we should instead abide by this

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/10ax247/is_this_a_good_base/

[glossy shadow]

wonderif when B42 releases Galatea will post more simpsons memes until they don't feel like it anymore... again 😄

[rich berry]

Oh yeah the simpsons memes

Loved them

[rancid edge]

TIGS monitoring player feedback during B42 unstable:

https://tenor.com/view/project-simpsons-bart-homer-gif-7656666

alr that's enough posting from me for this channel today before a moderator comes in lol

[full cove]

so i lost track of everything, when b42 coming again?

[gray nymph]

2024

[full cove]

ah ok

[humble pagoda]

Is anything ever finished? Or is everything continually changing through both how we see it and how it truly is?

[pliant pike]

I’m hoping the new fishing overhaul is coming in b42, maybe I need to read back and check, but im looking forward to it.

[oak kestrel]

its coming

things that wouldnt be coming are crafting trees yet unseen and things already stated in the blogs to be tentative for b42

[full cove]

it's coming™

[sonic stream]

Just look at the roadmap

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[sonic stream]

It shows the progress 😏

[full cove]

haven't moved a single pixel in months

[sonic stream]

No it has you just gotta look super close

[gray nymph]

[full cove]

[sonic stream]

Let me have a little fun

[gray nymph]

no lol

[sonic stream]

Stirring the hive is all I got

[gray nymph]

everytime you guys do that i look lol

[elder phoenix]

Was stoked to see this love Muldraugh looks like a good place for a base

[magic orchid]

yeah, here's a writeup on that by one of the devs

[grave torrent]

PEEEEOPHYAA!

[gray nymph]

[rustic shard]

This is the version that improves crafting and adds animals right?

[glossy shadow]

correct

[surreal rampart]

I just want this meme to die

[wanton marsh]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[wanton marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-evil-evil-cat-mischievous-mischief-gif-13289589621298169963

[surreal rampart]

cool

[lunar glen]

I'm gonna poke you in your googly-eye

[sonic stream]

https://tenor.com/view/bearded-dragon-googly-eyes-gif-6523742490147640179

[rain adder]

Wow I finally know what that is supposed to be

I always saw it as some sort of red sesame street bird with yellow beak

[gray nymph]

lol

[rancid edge]

it's your bearded dragon?

or a GIF found online that you liked?

[sonic stream]

Gif lol

[humble pagoda]

Reminder that one person's intoxicated love and beautiful heart and soul is another person's restraining order.

[oak kestrel]

I thought it was the red character from this

[zenith panther]

IT'S MOVING BROOOOOOOOO

[grave torrent]

least schizoiod

[thorn wigeon]

the biggest pain about project zomboid development is waiting for the next official update to be available for the public.

[rancid edge]

indeed. I take some of these when the pain flares up

[echo locust]

Didn't need this core memory

[grave torrent]

Omar

[echo locust]

N3na3

[wise tree]

omg

[rigid skiff]

I now can see the cycle of waiting, the hype, the impatience, and the emotional rollercoasters.

[rancid edge]

nothing is ever finished. Change itself is constant. TIGS will outlive us all.

[rancid edge]

a hearty bagel (although I’ve hardly had many croissants before)

[glossy shadow]

Croissants and Bagels are delicious, how dare you make me choose!

Probably croissants though, gotta love that buttery flake built in

[wise tree]

indie game store… what is this? shame on you. this is not the zomboid i know…….

joking

[frozen ivy]

I like new 4K emojis and can't wait to see more.

[thorn wigeon]

zombie

[rancid edge]

another moodle they revealed awhile back too

[tardy rover]

That's way better than the current one. Half of the player base still think it's a brain stem

[pine forge]

yeah

[fading cloak]

I can FEEL b42 this month!

[fallen flume]

I feel you didn't read this blog lol

[wanton marsh]

I tought it was a tree for like 300 hours

[thorn wigeon]

newer moodles do look more clear to look at.

will the old moodle emotes be replace on this server once build 42 arrives?

[rancid edge]

I believe someone asked that before and TIGS mentioned there’s still plenty of vacant emote slots, so they’ll probs just add (rather than replace) the new moodles in

[thorn wigeon]

here is a more clearer image of what the weight moodle could look like

[sonic stream]

looks like clip art

also its probably just the quality of the image but it looks like a obelisk when it should be a weight

also tiny af

Probably should just be the weight that Ghost posted without the arrow

[prisma ibex]

I love the new look to Muldraugh, but I can't help but notice that there's no parking at the school!
I feel bad for the staff having to park in the strip mall across the street.

[cold river]

what exactly does “intermediate update” mean

is it just like unnamed

[tardy rover]

Maybe they are not sure about the main focus of the update yet

[grave torrent]

update in the middle of it all

[hearty fiber]

npc

[fading cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-cry-gif-16721758346645166897

[nimble briar]

me fr

[humble pagoda]

Me when I find out I gotta share B42 with everyone else

[lunar glen]

Why are people calling TIS "TIGS?"

[pine forge]

The Indie Game Store

[rancid edge]

#1233073448515797032 message

ignore the initial artwork I made almost a month ago. That one was bonkers. These are the refined images. Feel free to spread word of TIGS :)

[south pasture]

Sorry to bust your balls pally but in a lucid dream Indie stone revealed to me that it would be happening in august

[sonic stream]

Maybe check the roadmap and see if it moved

[gray nymph]

STOP

[astral jasper]

I trust it

[rigid skiff]

To developers:

Are there any future plans to upgrade to Java 21 LTS? Or we're sticking with Java 17 LTS? Just wanted to get an opinion on Java versions in the gamedev jam circles.

[sonic stream]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-ring-no-isildur-lord-of-the-rings-gif-5743603

[gray nymph]

im telling

[rancid edge]

now that you've brought up the topic of Java, here's a very relevant image

[glossy shadow]

I remember when Minecraft added that though, was like 2011 maybe early 2012

Looked it up, September 14, 2011 Beta 1.8 😄

[grave torrent]

holy shit

minecraft PZ edition

[glossy shadow]

😍

[gray nymph]

wheres the thing where nasko said the games coming out in 2024 lol

and not beginning of year

[rancid edge]

playing with that skin rn. Let's see how Spiffo does against the Trial Chambers! I haven't played in years btw so I'm not that great lol

[rancid edge]

lol this?

[glossy shadow]

ooo nice ❤️ , I haven't played non-modded in many many years, I think the last modpack I played was on 1.18(?) so I am pretty sure there is a bit of vanilla stuff I haven't done.

[rancid edge]

I think they've made some worthwhile additions since 1.18; might be worth checking out

[fading cloak]

One must imagine b42 being out

[thorn wigeon]

once build 42 arrives the player base will explode in popularity.

[humble pagoda]

Exploding players is bad for retention

[thorn wigeon]

PZ became popular when build 41 became playable back in October 2019

[humble pagoda]

Never heard of it

[glossy shadow]

😆

[glossy shadow]

❤️ yeeee I might have to check it out!! 😄

[south pasture]

Brother ought to practice some retention of bad opinions before he posts 😂

[full cove]

you mean when we reach 2042, i think my children will love that build

[glossy shadow]

Godzilla sized spiffo

[astral jasper]

i showed u my build 42, please respond

[rancid edge]

Spiffo staring deep into the souls of those who ask when B42 release

[glossy shadow]

and whispers "+1 month."

[humble pagoda]

I'd rather die

[nimble briar]

omgggg

[grave torrent]

B42 will release this year

december 30

[south pasture]

Nah you’re wrong, it’s coming out in august

[humble pagoda]

Smh, why wouldn't B42 come out during pride month?

[grave torrent]

Development.

[visual furnace]

!ROADMAP

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[glossy shadow]

!heli

[turbid quest]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ep78UZy5FVbfN6mhCU/giphy.gif

[echo locust]

Looking forward to the post-42 Sims-esque diet traits

[thorn wigeon]

https://thebitingtruth.com/6-types-of-vegetarian-diets-explained/ types of vegitarian diets.

if we ha a vegan trait this would mean that we cannot eat animal products including dairy and even honey.

[gray nymph]

remove the op traits!!

[thorn wigeon]

some negitve traits are just free points

short sighted, prone to illness, slow healer ect

[gray nymph]

yah

[vernal elk]

Diets and allergies and such could make a bit of a good challenge

[gray nymph]

clumsy and that trait where you need glasses seems like it will be funny to use lol

[thorn wigeon]

nut allergies and having to find an EpiPen

[echo locust]

Add more OP traits!! 1 point trait that makes me invincible

[gray nymph]

NEVAR

IM TELLING

[rigid skiff]

What would a vegetarian trait do?

Consuming meat = unhappy mood?

Or would it make you sick?

[thorn wigeon]

realistically Vegan would be the most strict and the developers need to realize some vegetarians will eat meat.

[river pasture]

!reminder, this photo is already 6 months old

so i wonder what the actual point of progression is

[gray nymph]

Who woulda thunk a updated roadmap would cause so much snicklefritz lol

[river pasture]

Fr, would create a lot more hype for us tbh

[gray nymph]

[humble pagoda]

At this point if the entire roadmap bar got wiped I'd be happy.

[river pasture]

!ROODMAP

[turbid quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079967390957305857/1087675459774447666/image-23_1.png

[river pasture]

!ROODMAP

.
.
Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.c

[thorn wigeon]

Lol

!dance

[turbid quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[river pasture]

!dance

[turbid quest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986951681822580736/1013627138454327296/breakdance.gif

[glossy shadow]

!heli

[turbid quest]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExdjBneWY1aG8wZGR3MnV3OXlmbXE0ZHEydzJseTVlcGk0ZjUzbHIwZCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/xUNd9Ple5yPrjPQu4w/giphy.gif

[gloomy gulch]

then they are not vegetarians

[thorn wigeon]

#1245784392656359506 message

[rigid skiff]

Not sure if this matters.
There is a tad concern that the nose on the cow looked too much like Discord's current logo.

On the other hand, it sounds like we will be getting farm tractors in the base game?

[gray nymph]

in pz?

[rigid skiff]

If you have farm animals, wouldn't you have tractors in PZ? I dunno.

[gray nymph]

i dunno sounds like it would be overpowered and used to tractor zombies lol

[thorn wigeon]

tractor would be very slow and would be overruned too easily lol

[rancid edge]

Discow’s Beefy Tofu

[prisma ibex]

I feel the max speed of a tractor is a light jog.

[runic wolf]

OH YEAH BABY

[rancid edge]

here’s an idea for the planned post-B42 cooking/food overhaul: peanut butter and jelly pancakes

encumbrance: 0.3
days fresh: 3 days
days rotten: 5 days
hunger: -20
calories: 300
carbs: 40
protein: 15
fat: 10
unhappiness: -20

when stale: -15 hunger and +10 boredom AND when rotten: -10 hunger, +20 boredom, and -15 unhappiness

oh and make Spiffo’s Secret Sauce extremely rare to find

[zenith panther]

Why do you believe in this numbers?

[rancid edge]

just another instance of yapping lol I based the numbers on the PB sandwich and pancakes currently in B41

[river pasture]

Have ya'll ever seen a tractor tho, even if you guys mean the small models without a cabin, they're still quite fast.

Idk why ya'll would think it be slow, seen em go 20Kmp+ here in the belgian countryside

I remeber sitting on the skirt of one, ya had to hold on for dear life, since my bro kinda had a whack suspension, was fun

kinda like this one

[rigid skiff]

And the fact we have tons of places with farmlands, but no tractors, makes the tractors all the more necessary than we believed.

[river pasture]

I agree, i do see it fitting to have tractors

[wise tree]

did we ever hear anything abt a first aid rework??

[rancid edge]

not yet I believe

[thorn wigeon]

we have golf courses but no golf carts

[gray nymph]

i could go for a shomore

[rancid edge]

s'mores? Where is that image from?

[thorn wigeon]

twitter

[pearl kayak]

just in time for new years

[wise tree]

thank neptune the last thursday of the month isnt so late into the month

the 27th

[rancid edge]

two more weeks. Very exciting! Hopefully we all get a better idea of what everyone's wondering about

[cold river]

do we know if they’re changing fall damage at all

dying by falling 1 floor is kinda interesting

with the new heights of the map it should def be changed

[rigid skiff]

Not enough terminal velocity.

[cold river]

i mean it’s literally what happens already

[rancid edge]

must've fallen when over-encumbered. Falling only one floor should mainly result in substantial health loss and a chance of breaking your leg. Falling from the second floor almost always results in something being broken. Falling from three or more floors = death fs

[rigid skiff]

I mean, you can make yourself fall faster. Just carry a lot of stuffs. Close to 50 should be enough in your inventory.

[rancid edge]

and no, don't recall any of the recent blogs mentioning changes to fall damage, but maybe they've tweaked it. We'll see

[cold river]

1 floor is never enough for substantial health loss at all

the amount of times my characters almost die from tiling a second floor is almost comedic

[rancid edge]

I believe it depends on your character's weight too. Greater health loss when overweight

[cold river]

i’d argue it’s more cushioned lol

[rancid edge]

1 floor = 3 meters = 10 ft. After a bit of research, people have even died from heights of 6 feet (ofc it depends on how you land too). Idk what calculations go into fall damage in PZ or the chances of dying outright, but def don't be over-encumbered and avoid falling with adverse traits to strength or weight

maybe you've just been unlucky lol

[cold river]

for sure if pz wants to make it more damage with over/underweight then so be it

but a fit person shouldn’t be dying

[cold river]

could maybe have different effects for falling like if you got lucky you could land right and not take much damage but then other times you could land on your head or land on your feet wrong and break them etc

obviously wouldn’t be that in depth but simply like a random chance for different damage numbers/ effects that simulate those scenarios when you think about it

[rancid edge]

Ouch. Thinking about this sounds painful lol but yeah, that makes sense

one tip: when walking on roofs or in the forest, it's helpful to use the "walk to" function, if it's green then you can safely walk on that tile (if it's red then don't walk on that tile) or avoid slicing your neck from walking through trees

[wanton marsh]

Not dying when jumping from the first floor is better imo, otherwise you would be forced to have hammer, nail and a sheet rope

[serene cedar]

But in the 42 there will be the mentioned system of affinity?

[plush coral]

bump

[full cove]

what the point of enjoying reading monthdoid? I would rather play the game instead of reading about the game, this build 42 is coming super slooooowwwww

[gray nymph]

to keep the community in the loop

[full cove]

first on reddit was until this month to release it, now is... 2024

[full cove]

they are creating a lot of disturbance with that, many are realizing the build is coming far too much slow

at this rate build 48 is coming which year? 2048? this can't be right

[gray nymph]

we all want to play the next build but i don't think anyone can predict what goes on behind the closed doors of development, and its a huge overhaul which is evident from the blogs

they said 2024 and they dont give etas so i wouldnt worry too muchers :3

[full cove]

yeah i get it, huge overhaul, taking almost 2 years to complete each time? when npcs come out it will be another huge overhaul? so... 2028? See? This isn't right

no matter what i say will change that but public perception will

[gray nymph]

i mean they will be having to add npcs to the current system along with everything added before that so i can see that as a huge undertaking i dont think it would take a few months to just implement

these are just my assumptions as i know nothing of development , seems more complicated than people think

[full cove]

they are going far too much slow for my taste, and for many as well, hope they pull all together right, i have a discord server which we stopped in feb waiting for b42 bc b41 is saturated as hell

[gray nymph]

thats fair but i don't think they will ever rush updates...ust seems like that would be sloppy and detrimental for their employees and game, theres lots of new zombie games that came out this year that you could check out that arent in EA if thats your thing

[full cove]

i have no interest in other games, pz is just the right one for me, still waiting for b42, hope it doesn't take that much longer to idealize

[pine forge]

That was an unofficial statement

[full cove]

not until it was declared unofficial

spoken directly to hundreds and suddenly became unofficial

i can see the whole picture this time, but this is bs

[pine forge]

It was a comment in a reddit thread

That's not official (unless it was explicitly said to be official - which it wasn't)

[full cove]

ok

waiting for b42...

[gray nymph]

yeah we all are lol

[ancient salmon]

that dev was so right when he said this happens every update lmao

[gray nymph]

[thick cloud]

So you're just reverting your understanding of it and saying it went out to loads of people?
#1223009042318884934 message

[rich berry]

question popped into my head regarding on of the latest tweets

if i am a vegan and kill and eat a vegan, am i still a vegan?

wait no that sounded better in my head

[gray nymph]

no cause its meat lol

nice try though

[rich berry]

is a vegan burger a vegan burger because its vegan or is it in fact made of vegans?!?!?

truths that knox county dont want u to know

[full cove]

That was 2 months ago and nothing happened, still. Yeah i'm starting to guess mismanagement is going strong with TIS, and i'm not the only one saying that

[gray nymph]

bruh lol what the fuck

[full cove]

what

[rich berry]

u know what

my question about vegans was more logical than this mans logic

back to the study grind i go

[gray nymph]

maybe its time to look into another game because like i stated theyre still going to develop at the same pace , which isnt working out for you lol

[full cove]

yeah that's what you said, maddan pinned me so i came here to read about something i said 2 months ago

about the same state of waiting for a build that never comes

[rich berry]

the build will be out soon tho

[full cove]

so yeah, nothing is improving

[rich berry]

they said that in this blog

they are cutting off the loose ends for a future build and are now moving towards tying the knot on this build

[full cove]

this looks like my country health system: ''what about that surgery i've been waiting for 6 years and i paid for? SOON™ ''

[rich berry]

they said this year

[gray nymph]

we chose to invest in a ea game regardless of how it pans out, we are not entitled to anything

[full cove]

not related but still, same sentiment

[rich berry]

also mind they have like 16 devs (according to a quick google)

[gray nymph]

just kind of annoying that even after they have explained things to you , you still are saying the same stuff without any understanding of what they have said lol

its coming in 2024

be happy

[shell galleon]

Solution: don't spend money on an early access game if you are doubting it'll ever be ready

[gray nymph]

yea you can disable them in the store settings i think or account

[full cove]

never even thought about that when i purcharsed this game years ago

[full cove]

then don't pin me lol, not you

[rich berry]

Sem Rosto the kinda guy to complain about gta 6 after just looking at the leaked vids

[shell galleon]

Steam does state the terms on EA products on the store page yes? No guarantees the game will get any updates

[rich berry]

at least this aint starcitizen

[shell galleon]

"Note: This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development."

[gray nymph]

look at us now compared to back then !

[rich berry]

whats this, PZ is evolving

[gray nymph]

remember when no vehicles lol

YAH WE GOT NEW GRASS

[shell galleon]

I bought PZ in 2017 and I've never been happier how well it is being updated, even if it takes a while between builds (from non-game dev perspective)

[gray nymph]

no more crust floor furr

[rich berry]

i think this will be the last build that is this long as well

[shell galleon]

PZ impacted me as a player so much I actually started desiring more permadeath type of games, when before I would detest playing anything that involved losing your progress forever

[rich berry]

as the build we just had was transforming everything to 3D + multiplayer iirc and this build is laying the foundations for what is to come

[gray nymph]

yeah same here , i found this game from neo scavenger whifch i was really bad at, never really played that many permadeath games before that that i can recall and its so addicting lol

[shell galleon]

My curiousity for hardcore-permadeath things went beyond genre, now I can't play Vintage Story without permadeath...thinking things like "If I didn't prepare for winter food-wise, why should I deserve to live and just respawn? It makes no sense"

ty PZ ❤️

[gray nymph]

hahaha

[shell galleon]

Each death is a lesson, each painful loss

[gray nymph]

i must be punished for my mistakes!!

[shell galleon]

Suffering is the only way. Every death builds you as a player

[gray nymph]

yar!

[thick cloud]

And it's been the same for years with people saying it. We all get the frustration, it's the annoying circle. It's funny how everyone not involved with the game magically knows what's going on with it when they get obsessive over it. Take a break, come back when we say it's out. No idea why that's so difficult for people. You had the same obsessiveness and spam on Steam constantly posting stuff, and haven't even changed. It's not what people do. Like, how would it help me possibly to go on Silksongs forum and post daily about it not being out and how I have magical powers knowing that it's in development hell, they've given up, it's mismanaged. I mean they don't even post news since 2019.

Nothing is going to change with how things are done, because it always work despite people saying PZ killer 24 is coming, the game will be outdated before it's finished, people will move on and forget about it... etc

Again, I can't make it clearer that the frustration we all understand, but it's just going on about it instead of finding another game, or anything else. Before I was ever involved with PZ, when cars came out in testing, I tried it and they were really early and buggy. I completely omitted PZ from my life for a year until they were out and missed every single blog and discussion during that time and it was the best thing for me.

[rich berry]

all i took from that if silksong is in development hell and the dev team have all but given up /s

do u know what aint finished and aint outdated

minecraft (i guess u could argue otherwise)

a good example of why fast development is bad is by looking at another recent popular game

something hell something divers

[lost bone]

if you make a really great game that a ton of people love, your gonna get alot of angry impatient people no matter what you do

3 things are certain in life; death, taxes, and lolcows

[gray nymph]

lol

[warm isle]

indie game store should cancel their personal lives to release this for us!!!

[full cove]

So you know all along it was me

0_o

i feel stalked 😂

it's a joke OK no need to continue arguing

[thick cloud]

Genuinely not immediately, but after some wondering yeah

[glossy shadow]

Every time I look at one of these people complaining about the length of time it is always someone who has joined in like late 2023 or onward.

[gray nymph]

lol

[full cove]

you know the biggest twist of all

i was Lich

lol

[gray nymph]

oh my god lol

[full cove]

but now i'm a knight, good knight

[gray nymph]

explains a lot lol

[full cove]

hahaha

i was here all this time you people haven't even figured out

[gray nymph]

stop lol

[full cove]

i'm everywhere

[thick cloud]

I knew since the day you pinged me

[full cove]

i'm Batman

[full cove]

noooooooo

[thick cloud]

You're not the worst of what we've had lol

[gray nymph]

no lol

[full cove]

MadDan now that i'm exposed, unban me please so i can create havoc in pz forums again

[gray nymph]

NO lol

[glossy shadow]

ban evasion

[full cove]

no one can ban me with i'm Batman

[gray nymph]

dan does good job at keeping steam forums tolerable lol

[full cove]

now i'm a good knight, reformed, educated

i'm good boy now

[glossy shadow]

🫡 to Dan and the rest of the moderation team

[full cove]

or am i?

[gray nymph]

thats bait lol

[thick cloud]

Not really
I mean if the dude was sending death threats and sending slurs and stuff, be instantly gone but it's not like we can't give chances to people to reform in the future 😄

[full cove]

hahaha

[full cove]

but... i'm good boy now, you know i can behave myself out there... or can i?

[gray nymph]

lol

[full cove]

Puppers, you never saw this coming did you

biggest twist in the recent years of discord, all here right now

[gray nymph]

no lol , i havent seen many people from steam forums on here

[full cove]

we are everywhere

0-0

no worry i'm good now

or am i...?

[glossy shadow]

Monday is a special day for me and my relationship with PZ

my original order 🙂 ❤️

[gray nymph]

oh pz anniverasry

now i gotta look at mine lol

[glossy shadow]

😄

[full cove]

hey puppers one last thing

[gray nymph]

December 21, 2014 yay

[glossy shadow]

❤️ love it!

[full cove]

i will be back

[gray nymph]

least youre not the dude that called me a tis meat rider lol

i got super butthurt over that

[thick cloud]

Damn

[full cove]

why meat rider i can't go that low

[glossy shadow]

😂

[gray nymph]

yay we gotta have our own pz anniversary birthdays lol

[full cove]

i was lich but i had principles

[thick cloud]

But I was around watching paulsoaresjr wondering if PZ was for me back then

[gray nymph]

BRUH lol thats how i found minecraft from meatpops

[full cove]

i remember the day minecraft came out i watched that trailer like 100x

but at the time i couldn't even imagine buying it

10 years later i bought it and it's all good now

[gray nymph]

how did you guys find out about pz

the game was so freaking hard back then lol

[full cove]

i knew about pz since 2014 but never got my attention until late 2022

that's my story

[glossy shadow]

Finding PZ was one of those memories that will never go away. I was at work on break typed in "Zombie Survival Games" and PZ was the number one result, it was still a webbrowser game, started it up. Got to the point where I had to cook food for kate, decided to go upstairs to check on her and she said "Is something burning?" and I went backdown stairs and everything was FILLED with fire and zombies, we burnt to death. I clicked out and went directly to purchasing the game.

[lost bone]

I first saw my dad playing PZ and thought that the black spaces that are cast when youre moving in the forest was scary as a child, ambigousamphibian made some videos of PZ and that got me into the game

[glossy shadow]

Instantly fell in love

[gray nymph]

lol thats awesome

[gray nymph]

whys the wind sound like freaking zombie moans lol , its so unnerving during tropical storms

[glossy shadow]

😄

[rancid edge]

thank you @/artimedias, the individual who I stole the screenshots from

[wise tree]

can someone give me a summary

im a busy man i cant read it all

[humble pagoda]

Can you TLDR this? I'm even busier.

[grave torrent]

Internation Game Store

[cold river]

guys pretty much, every game you ever know, and especially every game you love, works on their games the exact same way as what TIS is doing rn. The difference is that TIS is letting us in on everything they’re doing, whereas every other company would hide development until a trailer comes out months before the release, and then even sell it as a paid DLC where B42 and every other update are completely free with the same or even more content than a paid DLC

they also acknowledge that they are indeed taking it a bit slower, but that’s just how they set up their workspace; a non-crunch/non-stressful environment. They take their pride in that.

[gray nymph]

[rancid edge]

great summary! And it is understandable that y'all are busy and all, but it's a worthwhile read at least once when you can

[oak kestrel]

Im excited over the prospect of a food rework, feels very gamey in some aspects

mostly when you do shit like survive off of eating cabbages 24/7

[short furnace]

Expecting mad unhappiness multipliers in these situations

[grave torrent]

lmaoo

severe depression from cabbage consumption

[rancid edge]

if they've considered cooldowns for reading literature like comics and magazines, then surely they'll consider cooldowns for food too (or at least I hope so)

[grim meadow]

will new update fix shadows when creating custom buildings with walls and stuff?
will it feel more natural

[pliant pike]

In not entirely sure but I’d imagine so with the new lighting system.

[grim meadow]

it just feels numb when creating custom house or something

hope that will be fixed

[oak kestrel]

hopefully, but id prefer if they went even further and made it so theres more nutrients it expects you to have
like if you only each cabbages day in day out you get anemia from lack of iron, etc.

[oak kestrel]

also would be good if you couldn't eat absurd quantities of food before the full to bursting check applied

[sonic stream]

hey yall, I think the roadmap moved slightly

make sure to check it out 😏

[gray nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-go-away-stop-kid-annoyed-gif-17209383

[weary sorrel]

I'm excited at the idea, I'd like for eating to be more nuanced

Personally, I'm hoping for the introduction of becoming bored of repeat foods, cravings, and flavor profiles in relation to cooking

[humble pagoda]

laughs in Autistic comfort food

[surreal rampart]

dunno man, I lived off of eggs and multivitamins for like a month and was pretty happy

[weary sorrel]

yeah, i also worked at mcdonalds for four years and i still eat there

I figure immunity to food boredom could come with hearty eater or iron gut

[tawdry tulip]

The roadmap whont be update imediatly after b42 lunch to troll on roadmap adict

[north lance]

Will there ever be a medical overhaul?

Vanilla medical systems feel inconsequential and underbaked

Not only are they vague and unrealistic and extremely gameified, but they also like to be inconsistent and are very shallow omitting so many issues that would come alongside being injured, alongside a wide variety of medical supplies, instruments and practices are just missing entirely

[grave torrent]

Perhaps in the later builds.

I suggest you use
First Aid Overhaul by the pink hoodied fella

[sonic stream]

they do plan on it

it is a bit weak

[weary sorrel]

i agree

im not joking when I say i literally never change bandages and only use ripped sheets

[rancid edge]

crafting overhaul in B42 and cooking overhaul planned post-B42. I’m sure they’ve got something in mind for the First Aid aspect. One step at a time

[sonic stream]

i use a mod that makes infection cause damage

so you want to use sterile bandages/sheets

[oak kestrel]

I tried one of those and found that it didnt work great with the current infection implementation imo, I think you need something a bit more complicated than infection = hp/s

[prisma ibex]

I'm sad we players didn't get to do weird stuff like this in unstable.

[grave torrent]

k_pz vs j_pz

[glossy shadow]

I am sure there will be plenty of weird things that they didn't think to try 😁

[river pasture]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[river pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-sisyphus-gif-16446455606219864014

[fleet vale]

13 days left ;)

or...
are devs lying to us??

[grave torrent]

im lying to you

[oak kestrel]

the middle point of the year is actually july 2nd, so they have 15 days

[fleet vale]

We'll see

[finite tartan]

you have two Julys?!

[sharp pebble]

wtf

[sharp pebble]

It has been confirmed that this information is wrong as least a hundred times in this same channel

[finite tartan]

July 2nd sounds like there's an entire July beforehand

[sharp pebble]

What drug did you smoke ?

[fleet vale]

Then this whole update might not be in this year

It's all a myth

[finite tartan]

none mate

he must have meant 2 July or 2nd of July

[sharp pebble]

It will, that too was explicitely mentioned, even in the last devblog

[finite tartan]

don't mind me I'm just a hater of the MM/DD format

[fleet vale]

I'll believe it when I'll see it

[sharp pebble]

[sharp pebble]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2024/05/glowing-onez/

[fleet urchin]

An estimate that's missed is not a lie

[finite tartan]

let the devs cook

[slate vapor]

Me when I don't read

[slate vapor]

To be fair
Still a feelsbad. Kinda why I was surprised to see lemmie give any estimate

[full cove]

i suspect they're overcooking 😂

[tardy rover]

They were. Read the last thursdoid

[full cove]

oh my i forgot about it

i will take a look

[rigid skiff]

Can we get some more fun observations done by testers? I wanted to read them.

[grave torrent]

u use DD/MM?

geh..

[finite tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/judgemental-aristocrat-volturi-gif-23598881

[grave torrent]

you wear paper towls on your neck?

fashionable

[finite tartan]

protection against scratches and bites

[thorn wigeon]

13 days left in June

[sonic stream]

Unfortunately other mods add too much shit I don't want