Glowing Onez

[glossy shadow]

Yea a tossup between the cat and that duckie

I have a duckie attached to my backpack atm 😁

[gray nymph]

lol thats cute

[fallen flume]

Let me introduce you to our new HR

[sonic stream]

Thank goodness the devs listened to reddit

[zenith panther]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[gilded terrace]

The new war declaration system sounds interesting and cool, and I'm glad the game is adding more faction dynamics for multiplayer (lots of games that are actually focused on PvP can learn from that), but am I right in assuming it's only limited to safehouse protections right now?

It would be nice if a server could have PvP disabled by default, but allow declared wars to bypass those protections. That way players who really want to avoid conflict altogether, can do so (if your settings allow it), but players who are spoiling for a fight can consent to faction-vs-faction gameplay without others being at risk. Or is that already possible with the war declaration system and just wasn't explicitly mentioned or clear in the blog?

[rigid skiff]

I'm taking Samus. Fast attack speed and high agility for dodging.

[astral jasper]

So b42 beta release will be similiar to b41 beta

some features will be out for the audience to play and test around, while devs work on finishing the rest

and last time i checked, b41 was a big success 😄

[glossy shadow]

basically!

like if you think about B41 when it first released vs just before release it is amazing how much they packed in there

and then we got stuff AFTER release too

[rancid edge]

we will be the Glowing OneZ when unstable release comes out

or at least I hope I can be a part of the Glowing OneZ. I’m afraid the new and mesmerizing grass will make my PC explode

[rigid skiff]

I'm hoping that the cut features will still be able to make it in in 42.78.12 or some higher version. 🫠

[marsh comet]

Are hot bathes/ showers planned for the next build with all the piping stuff coming out?

I think the water being piped having temperature would be cool.

[humble pagoda]

I think being able to age would be funny.

Ngl, am excited for B42 because of how the base game works, it gets far too easy too quickly and then it's just a mind-numbing grind for stats. Having later goals like reasonably being able to grow and store your food aswell as making tall fences breakable will add a lot to the late game. Though, I'd also be a sucker for something like the wonderful solar mod.

[weary sorrel]

the post apocalypse crafting is something that'll help longevity drastically for me

personally, I've always been a proponent of having the loot never respawn, so creating scarcity and forcing integration with nature creates a more nuanced late-game zomboid in my opinion

i never really liked the concept of just doing a grocery run every month or so, it felt like all the tension was sucked out when you could just find more food than you consumed

[elder sedge]

I always played with mods that decreased food and loot rates it's almost a necessity when you're solo because you now have free range over the entirety of a populations materials

It can make the game a little too easy going especially when you're experienced

Plus I hate being overwhelmed with loot like I'm not saying g I don't wanna be stacked or have a fat storage room I just mean that you can be buried in loot

[sly patio]

insane loot + 75% less food loot + 50% less item loot = still too much food lol

[elder sedge]

B42 for me is the polishing and game improvement and I mean like grass, lighting, sounds, build limit expansion, new animations, all of those things and the little details really make it for me

I totally appreciate animals and crafting and all of that but for me it's the immersion that helps with longevity not just content

The devs have already done more than I'd ever dream they'd do and yet they still feel like they haven't done enough for their goals

B42 Is just a blessing for a fan of the game a chefs kiss actually wonderful work

Every Thursdoid is filled with excitement for news of release date and the updates are always a great surprise i don't think anyone was expecting this much new stuff

And I imagine they will continue releasing more updates once b42 is out. I seriously can't wait I hope they do release this year even just unstable I would actually cry

[fleet urchin]

Not related to anything specific here, but I've noticed that there's a few keywords dimmer people use in relation to Zomboid, to let you know they don't know the first thing about game development (let along the quite unusual circumstances of Zomboid's development), and are jumping to wild conclusions: "spaghetti code", "feature creep", anything to do with TIS's finances (always the equivalent of Bart saying Principal Skinner is a millionaire because he earns $25,000 a year and is 40).

[thick cloud]

"I took one game development class ten years ago"

[grave torrent]

I will develop 0 gifts.

this is an old roadmap

[vague grove]

so is beta 42 releasing?

[pine forge]

Not yet

[slate vapor]

I mean if they did that then surely they've done something with that right?

[gray nymph]

Spagheti good doe

[humble pagoda]

Makes winter hurt way more if you can't just go grab some cans of food in the next town over, too.

[echo locust]

The implication is that they've taken a single class and think they're an expert on the subject because of it

Like “yeah I'm a bit of a pro when it comes to stocks, I took econ 101”

I think there are certainly fair criticisms to make about the game's code but like Pat said most people throw around “spaghetti code” without knowing what the phrase means, in contexts in which it doesn't make sense

“This method's parameters are unclear... spaghetti code strikes again!” (even this is assuming it's coming from someone who actually read the code, when there are plenty of examples of people who have not)

[slate vapor]

Thank you for explaining the joke. I, a complete imbecile, could not comprehend such rich humor with my own mind

[echo locust]

You're welcome, we cannot all be gigabrained IQchads like myself. Now, I'm off to cure some “incurable” diseases

[gray nymph]

Lol

[echo locust]

I didn't realize that was a rhetorical question bc I misread it but I'm just gonna pretend it said what I thought it said

[gray nymph]

lol

its fine

[sonic stream]

Its hard to show inflections on the internet

[grave torrent]

Uhm, what are inflections.

[fleet urchin]

The thing you treat with antibliotics

[grave torrent]

No not infections mr bren.

Inflections.

[pine forge]

Yeah the thing you treat with antibliotics

[grave torrent]

:(

[sonic stream]

Yeah whwat do you meawn?

[rigid skiff]

This?

Inflections?

[grave torrent]

Yes inflections!

Not infections!

im not schizo

[ashen schooner]

[fallen flume]

it's basically a point system for warnings. Three Inflections and you're out

[full cove]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-apocalypse-the-end-is-near-gif-7204885

[south pasture]

Hey will B42 feature an overhaul to medicine? I don't think that non zomboidal infections have any weight other than slowing healing currently

[fallen flume]

Time will tell

There will be one, but it would be out of plan if it happens for 42

[oak kestrel]

they only increase pain in B41 if you have an infection iirc, they still heal at the same rate if you ignore your dirty bandages

[south pasture]

Wait wouldn't that mean that there aren't any medical skill related crafting trees then?

[fallen flume]

[south pasture]

well if the current medical system is as shallow as throw a bandage on it, what is there to expand upon with a crafting tree?

[fallen flume]

Why couldn't an overhaul to that system come later, along with a tech tree

[south pasture]

Ah I see, so it wont be featured in the b42 beta then

[glossy shadow]

he did just say "but it would be out of plan if it happens for 42"

[south pasture]

🤓

[gray nymph]

[weary sorrel]

a medical tech tree could work even if the system isn't changed

so long as we have access to smithing, textile work and woodworking you could in theory make all sorts of already existing medical items

though it would make perfect sense if they'd wait for a medical tech tree to come along with medical changes

[tame knot]

Add what the barotrauma mod Neurotrauma does 🤫

[supple gale]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[rigid skiff]

With the new lighting changes, will the game get too dark to see?

Like, complete pitch black? 0x000000 in RGB value that kind of black?

[sonic stream]

they decided to add realism by making it completly dark

[zenith panther]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[full cove]

afaik the darkest lighting possible will be more of a blueish tone, but I'd love to see a sandbox option for complete darkness just for the horror quality

[rigid skiff]

I guess this would definitely be suitable for multiplayer and sandbox modes.

How blueish it will be is my main focus of the question.

[lunar glen]

Will y'all stop that already?

[rancid edge]

anyone think of any basement “stories” they’d like to see?

No doubt we’d all be pleasantly surprised to encounter a basement full of weapons and ammunition

which can only generate (not entirely sure how it works) if we find a particular annotated map or be lucky to come across the basement itself without needing the map

[tardy rover]

I want a basement that's a 1:1 recreation of West Point

[rancid edge]

and I can’t wait to find toilet paper house with its basement containers also laden with toilet paper

[rancid edge]

West Point under West Point? Yeah! B42 wouldn’t be complete without that fs

[tardy rover]

One dev confirmed that it will be possible for modders to add custom basements that are placed randomly on the map. I expect a lot of weird mods with that

[rancid edge]

you mean like mad scientist basement story with zombie corpses, brains in jars, and all sorts of medical tools and equipment scattered around along with a notebook on their findings?

[visual vector]

a certain variety of dungeons i hope to see

[tawdry otter]

very scared to do a run, i feel if B42 can literally come out any minute

[echo locust]

"the Unstable build is not imminent" - this last blog

[glossy shadow]

Even if you do a run you can always revert back or a fresh one when 42 comes out

But yea unstable will be a separate branch that you will have to opt into so don't even worry about that at this point

[rancid edge]

don't let B42 unstable stop you from pursuing your fitness goals! Like mentioned above, the unstable build will be out later than sooner so you'll have enough time to go for as many runs as you'd like

[weary sorrel]

• Moonshining
• Secret room behind a bookshelf
• Implied serial killer
• model train enthusiast
• amateur film set

[rigid skiff]

At least, they gotta have some fan-made RP stories integrated into the world like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8hp1RvMWWk

This story involves a kid living in a basement (spoilers) ||with a zombified mom||.

[full cove]

so when is the unstable branch going to be available to play?

[rancid edge]

we don't know when exactly

the next blog post will probably give us a better idea of its availability

[full cove]

It's making sense for some underground or no window locations. But walking outside at night and seeing nothing is just not realistic and not fair. Most of the times just your eyes adaptation + moonlight is enough to see shit at night. Might not work if you in a dence forest or near light pollution source (but that's doesn't matter as a permanent blackout kicks in)

[rigid skiff]

OHHH, good point about eyes adaptation.

Does the advanced lighting take into account night adaptation?

The eye takes approximately 20–30 minutes to fully adapt from bright sunlight to complete darkness and becomes 10,000 to 1,000,000 times more sensitive than at full daylight.

So, theoretically, the ambient lighting would give around 1 hour to go from pitch blackness (cloudy night) to a blueish tinted environment.

[short furnace]

And really it only takes a minute or two to go from apparent pitch black to being able to roughly make out forms and depth. Def hope they can make this work

[nimble briar]

fr

[humble pagoda]

#1233073448515797032 message

This is supposedly why they do that. But, since I doubt they are measuring the pixels, most likely they are either tricking themselves into believing it or have some other, odder reason for doing it.

[pine forge]

Every time you run the command John Zomboid gets an electric shock to motivate work on B42

[humble pagoda]

Still not worth the minor annoyance of seeing the damned thing.

[lunar glen]

With the upcoming liquids system and machines, finding basement moonshining den would be sick.

[rigid skiff]

I honestly wanted to see a legitimate in-house brewery factory in the basement.

[weary sorrel]

as a mixology enthusiast myself, I hope more alcohols, mixers, and liqueurs are added

[full cove]

Some functional basement objects would be neat. Large backup generators required to power skyscrapers, water boilers, etc.

[wanton marsh]

I didn't really see anyone talk about it so i'll do, the war manager is gonna be really cool in MP.
On big servers, there's too often one or two dominating factions that just have way too much off everything and with the war, smaller teams or solo players will be able to put them in difficulty and help redistribute the loot

[rigid skiff]

From the sounds of it, the War Manager might even be able to hold a Battle Royale type of wars.

From the general vibe of Build 42 and possibly Build 43, I hoped the devs can take inspirations from Japanese horror media with zombies and military science horror genres. They are underutilized in survival games, and they will definitely add spices of life to this game.

[glossy shadow]

Hopefully the War event stuff means that pvp has had quite a bit of work done to it.

[lunar glen]

Yeah, War Manager sounds absolutely SICK!

You could set up like War Seasons between factions.

[wanton marsh]

Being brutally honest, I wouldn't think so, we heard nothing of it and only a low % of players play online PvP

At least we got a setting to somewhat disable the firearms stunlock (horrible mechanic tbh)

[glossy shadow]

I don't disagree but they did say it was something they wanted to look into for B42 (said it pretty early on so plans may have changed) and a big part of the reason why the % is low is because it is jank right now

Like 90% of my friends want to play it but they want pvp but know it is bad atm

[glossy shadow]

Yess I was not expecting that to get slipped into B41

I am personally fine with pve stuff

But I also understand the want for some sort of conflict

[wanton marsh]

The trajectory mod make pvp a lot more enjoyable for me, makes pvp something more than just who see who first

[glossy shadow]

Ooo I could see that

I only just started messing with that one

[wanton marsh]

I only play MP with PvP lol, I just find sp boring and PvE too easy

[wanton marsh]

It's good, even if is still somewhat janky

[glossy shadow]

Fair 😁

[lunar glen]

I feel like combat could get reworked a bit for B43 with the introduction of human NPCs. Then they HAVE to redesign human-human combat, which will also affect PvP.

[glossy shadow]

That is what I was thinking too

[wanton marsh]

If human combat stay the same, 90% of players will just get clapped by a NPC with a x8 scope 😭

[glossy shadow]

[rigid skiff]

Multiplayer would definitely be reworked by Build 43 when we get human NPCs

[south pasture]

You could always travel under cover of darkness, or perhaps other NPCS could give you a heads up as to who’s friendly and who isn’t if you ask them

[humble pagoda]

Talking to other people

[astral jasper]

people 😨

[rancid edge]

sending zombies to talk to people on your behalf

[heavy jewel]

this dev blog is actually pathetic

the weekly devblogs before literally had way more content and they had less staff in their team

[tardy rover]

Ban speedrun

[heavy jewel]

banned for saying the truth?

like dude 1 month for some new keychain

[tardy rover]

Nah, criticism is always accepted. I was talking about your profile pic lol

[heavy jewel]

I don't think

[slate vapor]

It is worth mentioning that most chatter about epinephrine island has gotten discord servers deleted so

@thick cloud can I make a strong recommendation

[heavy jewel]

if he ask me to change it i can change it thats it

[echo locust]

Bootlicking is when you report someone for a profile picture that suggests they're a troll

[heavy jewel]

having a "troll pfp" won't get you banned from discord buddy

[echo locust]

No one's trying to ban you from all of Discord

Hardly anyone is from here, either, but from your attitude I could see it happening

[heavy jewel]

cool bro 👍

[echo locust]

Editing the message to have a thumbs up really diminished the "don't care" vibe that was intended

Notes for next time: don't mention with a reply if that's what you're going for

[heavy jewel]

👍

[echo locust]

Close! Still had a mention—you'll get it next time slugger

[wise tree]

so in b42 is it possible weird lighting glitches like this will be fixed??

[wise tree]

dude no shot ur over 6

[native solar]

Man I keep seeing people complaining about how long the update is going to take

What's the bet that they'll be complaining about unfinished features in the unstable branch of the game when it finally gets here

[weary sorrel]

virtually guaranteed

zomboid has, for some reason, one of the least patient fanbases I've seen in any active development game

[glossy shadow]

And if they don't (but they will) complain about that, then they will complain about the updates to the branch to be too frequent causing their mods to stop working.

[heavy jewel]

they need to take example on facepunch studio

theres absolutely no excuse to justify the extreme slow pace of developpement especially recently

[heavy jewel]

dude pz has literally one of the most loyal and most glazing fanbase. Trust me do this with any other game and they will wreck their shit up.

I can understand for b41 and before because their studio was smaller but not anymore. Modders do more in their free time for free which makes no sense

[candid warren]

I guess most of whats being worked on is not shown. Since whatever is apart of the crafting overhaul is taking forever you need the other devs to do something while its being worked on.

[humble pagoda]

If it makes no sense, might be the hint that you don't have the full picture.

[rigid skiff]

They don't need to take examples. No reason to. It is their baby, so they can dev as long as they want.

[glossy shadow]

There is plenty that Facepunch has messed up on, not really the best company to look up to. I respect them, and have put a lot of hours into their games. But they have done some questionable stuff.

[full cove]

You will say this everyone else will complain but when it drops everyone will go back to saying zomboid is peak

I dont think u realize that

they are recoding systems that have been in the game for years

It takes alottttttt of time

I retract my statement because he was kicked or left.

[glossy shadow]

mmm I still see him

[full cove]

A better example is like

Terrarias devteam

And even their updates take years

[glossy shadow]

Agreed

I don't think they work on crunch either which is cool

[full cove]

Zomboid isn’t a casual indie game or a small game anymore it takes the time to perfect it they have to be good enough for the masses now

[glossy shadow]

which partially explains the update schedule

[full cove]

Zomboid has recently been getting picked up by bigger youtubers so b42 might throw it into the spotlight

[glossy shadow]

peaked at like 101k viewers yesterday

on twitch

[full cove]

Markiplier recently played

[glossy shadow]

A lot of spanish streamers are doing a permadeath server atm so it is very popular

and yea Markiplier's video as well

[full cove]

I noticed alot of new players are joining complaining the update is taking forever without actually knowing how the devteam works

b42 is going to be great even if it changes the gameplay significantly

[rancid edge]

I don’t work at The Indie Game Store (yet) and someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but mods tend to add or change code more so to a localized feature or mechanic, which does not always contribute to the bigger picture of PZ. Moreover, more modders than TIGS so it is expected for mods to be highly abundant.

In contrast, B42 has likely (and probably still is) uprooting much of their existing and already complex code foundation in order to integrate even more complex code to it that will have repercussions beyond B42 itself. From my understanding, that sure sounds like an endeavor that’s meant to take years.

[native solar]

Build 42 is going to propel it to numbers unseen before

At least for a day during the first month we'll see 100k concurrent minimum, at least that's my guess

[humble pagoda]

There's just a lot wrong with Absolut7o's posts. Starting off the discussion by calling something pathetic is hardly ever there to be good-faith criticism, it's an insult. Combine that with his assertion that his own opinions are 'the truth' and that it somehow absolves him from being a jerk, is just flat-out toxic behavior.

As for his point that 'having a troll pfp won't get you banned', it's their discord. They can ban for whatever reason they want, it's not like the supreme court is gonna care that someone was booted from an online forum.

He also talks about 'taking examples from other game studios', there's simply nothing constructive there. It just reeks of self-entitlement and blatant ignorance of how things work. He's not a modder, not a developer. He just feels it should be done faster, because he feels like it's not that hard. He doesn't want details, he's just upset his new toy hasn't come out yet.

[humble pagoda]

I do think Project Zomboid has a loyal playerbase, but a very vocal minority of it are entitled babies who feel that they are personally owed something from the developers. It's something that's exhausting to see as just some random guy, much less being a dev that has to see it during work.

These people don't know anything about making things. If they did, they'd appreciate just how incredible it is that TIS is against the kind of exploititive bullshit that other companies like to do. They'd recognize how much you can hate what you create when you are told to make as much of it as possible without any care about how it'll turn out.

Take Facepunch for instance: You know what they did when fans whined about slow updates? They told them to quit the game. They specifically talked about a 'ping pong loop' of unhelpful criticisms that, quote, **"We release an update, you love it for a month, you get bored, blame the system, bitch for a few months, then we release another update - and the same thing happens...

...If you're bored of the game then just stop playing it. But before you get angry about it consider whether we have given you enough entertainment over the last 3 years to justify pocketing your $20."**

People like Absolut7o aren't new. But this is a real problem to recognize because of just how mind-numbingly basic it is. It's entitlement.

[humble pagoda]

And yes, I now realise that I was engaging in the exact same toxic behavior that I accused him of, and how I could have worded my comments to be less needlessly inflammatory.

[thick cloud]

Well he's gone now, saw the deleted stuff and all the rest was more than enough for me

[thick cloud]

You look like you were ready to drop an entire essay in one of these news posts at any moment lol

[humble pagoda]

[native solar]

Aren't we all

[ember granite]

erm what the sigma

[river pasture]

Does annyone here know if the new crafting furniture for b42 will spawn naturally in the world?

I'd imagine that it would, making industry locations more favorable.

[grand delta]

With the new forge system and all those new weapons i'm disappointed that there is still no bow/crossbow

[tardy rover]

It was confirmed in a previous thursdoid

[river pasture]

Dope thanks

[river pasture]

Do i have some news for you

[grand delta]

oh damn, wich one ?

[river pasture]

Not really shure, had this screenshot on my pc

might be pushed back for after B42 tho

[wanton marsh]

I'm gonna live in the wood and hunt other players with a bow hehe

[river pasture]

but it's comming

[tardy rover]

Bows and crossbows are confirmed for B42, but they won't be included in the first release

[river pasture]

So, after Unstable?

[tardy rover]

No clue

[river pasture]

Only time will tell, i guess

[tardy rover]

In this thursdoid, they said that some crafting trees won't be included in the first release, and I think that includes everything related to bows

[wanton marsh]

Also, am I the only one who find it curious that we didn't get any informations on the two future towns west of the map ?
Cuz I certainly do love the one where a tornado passed

[river pasture]

Yep i think so

[tardy rover]

What else do you want to know about them? They are just plain rural American towns. There's nothing particularly interesting in the other towns of the game lol

[river pasture]

Tornado, whot?

They revealed a tornado tarnished location in one of the blogs?

[tardy rover]

The only thing we know is that they are inspired by real life Ekron and Brandenburg

[tardy rover]

That place is already in the game, beyond the current map borders

West of Riverside, there's two unfinished towns (missing most buildings, foraging zones, etc) and one of them is in a really bad shape

I don't know if the tornado thing is official

[north lance]

i believe at this point theres a decent chance that following the wrapup and release of the current state of B42, we stand a decent chance of getting either Archery or Horses as the dev team is working on a full B42 release

[river pasture]

Oh, so

I knew that theire where damaged buildings in the new zones, hadn't heard of the tornado tho

[north lance]

probably not a full crafting table update up to full B42 but i can see archery at the least considering how important Ranged combat would be for hunting and itd be a very important part of a "No Looting only Scavenging/Crafting" policy to have such natural and replenishable alternatives for firearms

[river pasture]

Looks ravaged indeed, several houses are boarded up too

[tardy rover]

And the school is full of beds, implying it was used as a shelter

[river pasture]

Oh yeahn didn't see that yet

[sharp pebble]

Ooh

[wise tree]

no no there is

nvm u banned him

was about to write a essay

[thorn wigeon]

cant wait to see what rosewood will look like after a rework

[wise tree]

i doubt we’ll see many changes in other towns

its prob focused on muldraugh since its the oldest town

[thorn wigeon]

some of those reworked buildings look to be good base locations.

[violet burrow]

how about making sure the update inst a hot steaming pile of shit?

[violet burrow]

modders dont have to make things from the ground up either, This update is revamping entire sections of the game and its adding alot more than some items or some cars.

[tardy rover]

After seeing the remake of the Muldraugh PD, I don't wanna know what they did with Rosewood FD

[rancid edge]

maybe Twiggy’s in WP will get some cool changes

[thorn wigeon]

reworked gun store

reworked fire station in rosewood

[rancid edge]

perhaps some remote bunkers in March Ridge

[thorn wigeon]

reworked rosewood school

imagine a storm cellar in PZ randomly generated in some peoples yards

[south pasture]

Nice save bro 😬

[grave torrent]

so what if its his pfp

some people have cropped porn for their pfps

[sharp pebble]

Fuck yes

[thorn wigeon]

storm cellar could used as a place to sleep or even storage.

[thick cloud]

Treading on thin ice if you're trying to defend that

[grave torrent]

pfp shouldn't matter but ok.

[thick cloud]

You're seriously defending someone having epstein as their pfp and think that's "all good" on a server with minors

[grave torrent]

No.

[thorn wigeon]

silly

[thick cloud]

So what are you even trying to say then with this

[fallen flume]

He's saying it should matter if someone has something racist, pedophilic, pornographic, etc in their pfp.
But also not saying that it's ok. Makes perfect... sense... somewhere

[grave torrent]

Forget it..

[fallen flume]

Yeah probably better

[thick cloud]

Right

[thorn wigeon]

complaints over avatars is a silly discussion

[thick cloud]

... we're gonna leave it there

So B42
Damn these devs huh

shakes fist at sky

https://tenor.com/view/hornet-diavolo-vento-aureo-meme-funny-gif-20952673

[rancid edge]

[rigid skiff]

Hmmm

• Build 42
• Hollow Knight: Silksong
• Dwarf Fortress: Adventure Mode in stable branch
• Metroid Prime 4
  I think TIS will win this and the release date will be reached first.

And then Dwarf Fortress, and then Metroid Prime 4, and finally Silksong.

[thick cloud]

Skong.

[sonic stream]

Thank you Mr epstein

I'm sure the devs will take this to heart

[gray nymph]

[mental rover]

theres also that really cool orphanage

[full cove]

Hey there, i think i know you

haven't seen you around b4

[thick cloud]

?

[full cove]

haven't seen you here but i think i saw you in Steam forums

[gray nymph]

steam forums savior

[thick cloud]

I'm always here, I just don't post as much as Steam publically but I'm always checking, no idea who you are though but yeah I imagine many have seen me around on Steam lol

[full cove]

i'm... just me lol

glad you're around

[errant island]

Wait but build 42 was said to release in 2024 right? Or was that the unstable they were talking about?

[pine forge]

yes this year

[errant island]

Yeah okay

[pine forge]

unclear whether that means unstable or full or both

[errant island]

Ahh okay

If not, then so be it, but just making sure I understood it correctly...whenever I wrote that announcement

Well I cant imagine they would do an unstable and then the full edition later in the same year, right?

[pine forge]

Relevant tweet: #tweets message

[errant island]

Yeahhh thats the one

I assumed 42 in full, but if it ends up being unstable, I'll take what I can get hehe

[gray nymph]

probably depends on bug fixes n shtuff

[humble pagoda]

If there aren't a realistic amount of ants on the ground in B42 stable, I will blow a fucking gasket.

[errant island]

Well have I got some news for you

[rancid edge]

I was going through some old blog posts and came across this mentioned a little over a year ago

[weary sorrel]

The hand injuries from digging furrows is from incurring the ants’ wrath

[errant island]

Yoooo Castle Crashers bro

[thick cloud]

lmao
right

Punish the consumers by taking time to make a game the best it can be

10+ years of constant updates from a game that you could only play for about an hour of content back in the day is lazy

[gray nymph]

are you trolling

[thick cloud]

Crazy how far people reach just to try and get an update we're not going to push faster for the sake of being faster no matter what people say

[gray nymph]

go paly build 38 and then come back lol

nerr it 2024 used to instant gratification from purchasing games online , i need everything right meow

[thick cloud]

source

[gray nymph]

lol

[thick cloud]

Totally remember that, I say that everyday here

/s

[glossy shadow]

Even when this game was a tech demo and had limited content I still got like 300 hours out of it

[gray nymph]

regardless of how many developers they "hire" they will still work at a pace that works best for them and their company

[thick cloud]

100M

[gray nymph]

reminds me of that time on steam forums someone said you guys stole all the money and sitting on a beach somewhere lol

[thick cloud]

And you think I'd be here of all places and not have bought myself a 20 bedroom house with a helicopter and a yacht

[gray nymph]

haha

yeah arguing on steam forums and discord , tottally

[glossy shadow]

Bet that is the same guy as the Epstein account.

[rancid edge]

[thick cloud]

There's been another studio making another game for the last 13 years I've watched numerous "PZ killers" come and go

The ONLY one that currently exists in my mind, that's come close to actually competing with PZ, is Infection Free Zone

[glossy shadow]

The Indie Game Store for life 🤩

[thick cloud]

Everything else has just been to ambitious

[gray nymph]

There is nothing wrong with other games coming out , its going to happen, but pz has a good community so i dunno what to tell you. Been playing it since 2014 and it and the community has only , like a fine wine, aged well.

[glossy shadow]

Ooo I should check that one out

[thick cloud]

The Dead Linger, Dead Matter, Dead State, DayZ (more of a bandit/hostage than a zombie game imo), HumanitZ, The Day Before (not even sure if listing that makes sense, that was a straight up scam)

Many more

But like

There can also be...

Wait for it

Multiple zombie games on the market

https://tenor.com/view/controlmypc-cat-screaming-discord-gif-20582295

[gray nymph]

lol

[thick cloud]

Woah

[glossy shadow]

🤯

Mind blown

[gray nymph]

holy shit other games exist?!

[rancid edge]

[glossy shadow]

😍😍😍

[thick cloud]

Where did that start lol?

[glossy shadow]

Last blog post

In the discord thread

[thick cloud]

I saw someone post it here, and correct someone saying "The Indie Game Store*" and I was bout to hop in but I was sure it was a bit lol

[glossy shadow]

A guy was mad that updates were taking too long and miss typed

[gray nymph]

did someone say it lol

[glossy shadow]

So we rolled with it

[gray nymph]

LOL

[thick cloud]

lmao

[gray nymph]

ah did they already , like afart in the wind, dissapear?

[glossy shadow]

Pretty much 😂

[rancid edge]

that was probably me you were going to correct lol

I've been correcting others often

[thick cloud]

Probably

[glossy shadow]

It makes me giggle every time 🤭

[gray nymph]

rofl

[thick cloud]

I have a habit of correcting everyone

I get irked by anything that isn't true

[glossy shadow]

Fair 😁

[thick cloud]

So imagine my restraint when people come in with outlandish claims every single day

[gray nymph]

lol steamforums loves doing that

i have to block so many

[glossy shadow]

Honestly I don't know how you do it

[gray nymph]

its just mind blowing how some people come up with these claims and its like wth ???

[thick cloud]

I just mean even in general when I see stuff like TIGS instead of TIS, I'm like, that's not right and it must be resolved immediately

[glossy shadow]

LOL I am so sorry

[gray nymph]

whats tigs lol

[glossy shadow]

I feel bad now

[gray nymph]

ohshit lol

[glossy shadow]

The Indie Game Store

[thick cloud]

Well, it's obviously only for the 20 bedroom house, yacht and helicopter I can take a break with every day that I can do this with.

[glossy shadow]

😂

[thick cloud]

Someone's going to run with that out of context somewhere

And good for them

[gray nymph]

lol i saw you guys call it and i wa slike what lol why are we tigger now

[thick cloud]

Make me look loaded

[gray nymph]

LOL

[thick cloud]

I'll take it

[thick cloud]

Nah now I that I know it's a joke it's all good but when I first saw that I was like

https://tenor.com/view/resist-temptation-anime-gif-8531428

[glossy shadow]

❤️

[gray nymph]

hahaha

[rain adder]

Is your helicopter covered in gold paint? It has become a trend by now

[gray nymph]

were getting gold choppers?!

[glossy shadow]

That is why the heli flies around us, to show off it's glam

[thick cloud]

See this is the hierarchy
Even with all this money, I'm still shamed by the higher ups for only having bronze instead of gold

[weary sorrel]

New golden helicopter event where it reflects extremely bright reflections onto the ground and starts fires

[thick cloud]

I don't know when to put /s now for the lurkers being like wtf that mod and dev have gone rogue omg I need to put this on Reddit

[glossy shadow]

"check me out, I'm so shiny"

[gray nymph]

lololol

[glossy shadow]

😆

[gray nymph]

i think someone would still take it s=seriously

[rancid edge]

here we go again

[humble pagoda]

💯

[rancid edge]

there it is

[gray nymph]

lol

[glossy shadow]

You do realized they are over 30 dev now right? (Including MP team)

[gray nymph]

inb4 "well why arent update outs faster"

like we havent heard it all before lol

[thick cloud]

Even when you force ChatGPT to do it it's like wtf are you on about

[rain adder]

"Game devs never gets late, has a private golden helicopter even if he works from home" more on twelve!

[lost bone]

getting more team members also doesnt garuntee faster progress, let alone clean progress as evident of other studios, especially in the AAA space

[humble pagoda]

#1245784392656359506 message

[gray nymph]

cant you just be happy how far the game has come since release lol

[lost bone]

Here's something to consider regarding the long wait: The devs are making a stupidly complex crafting system, like the amount of tech trees, variations, materials, sprites, graphics is in of itself a huge massive task for literally any team

Like the complexity of it actually reminded me of CDDA's crafting, absolutely nowhere near as depth, but a huge task regardless

[humble pagoda]

That's not how entitlement works.

[lost bone]

doubt

[humble pagoda]

#1245784392656359506 message

[weary sorrel]

Yeah no

[lost bone]

because what I mentioned was just one major overhaul, B42 is literally multiple overhauls in one update

thats a ton of work

[gray nymph]

there are some great mod creators out there but a lot of mods out there i feel are over powered so i guess thats going to be personal preference

[thick cloud]

Okay, we go from 100M to slightly more reasonable 9 million, which is crazy
And then to a separate ridiculous claim

Come on man

[gray nymph]

oh my god here we go fucking npcs lol

[thick cloud]

you're still on 100M

oh my god

[gray nymph]

ITS BEEN 11 YEARS

[glossy shadow]

[gray nymph]

STOP lol

[lost bone]

I think the devs are ok with money dude lmao

lmfao even

[gray nymph]

theyre probably the same group thats going to go build 43 when , when 42 drops lol

watch lol

[glossy shadow]

💯

[lost bone]

well that question is always gonna pop up regardless

[thick cloud]

Like I know you're trolling but ironically you started of saying it's lazy but this is the laziest attempt at trolling I've ever seen myself

At least you got something in common with The Indie Game Store there

[humble pagoda]

It's always going to be lazy, it's just entitled arrogance.

[gray nymph]

[humble pagoda]

We literally just touched on this before with the other guy.

[glossy shadow]

Lol true

We did

[humble pagoda]

This is nothing new, just ignorance disguising itself as a 'harsh truth'

[gray nymph]

time for an intervention

its okay , itll be fine

[humble pagoda]

#1245784392656359506 message

[rancid edge]

[thick cloud]

This is just ludicrous

[gray nymph]

lol

[glossy shadow]

So when dragons?

[humble pagoda]

[thick cloud]

"just do these things because that's how it works"

Dam that takes me back

[glossy shadow]

RJ promised 🤣

[thick cloud]

Soon* in TIGS terms

[humble pagoda]

When are the Project Zomboid devs gonna go for what the playerbase really wants, a dragon dating sim?

[gray nymph]

lol

[glossy shadow]

🤣

[lost bone]

devs should be paying us that 10mil for that broken promise fml

[thick cloud]

We're finally on animals, what do you think is taking so long

[gray nymph]

please everyone would get one shotted by a dragon if tis put one in there and they would cry about it murdering their world lol

[humble pagoda]

[humble pagoda]

They obviously haven't considered the finer points of living in a world consumed by fire.

[gray nymph]

lol

[rancid edge]

maybe that golden helicopter mentioned earlier actually alluded to dragons

[humble pagoda]

Heating bill is basically nonexistant, for starters.

[gray nymph]

lol its powered by dragons duh

[lost bone]

There's also CDDA but the zombies in that game are around because of an alien blob so idk if that counts.

[rain adder]

Why add animals and plan a fire rework if not for dragons? For people that see sgins everywhere you guys really missed this one

[thick cloud]

I would say CDDA is more in line with Dwarf Fortress, but that might be blasphemy to some

I never really considered it a zombie game myself

[full cove]

Can they wear bows

[gray nymph]

and unicorns?!

that wear buckets for hat

[rain adder]

I couldn't make rainbow farts work properly, sorry, I tried

[gray nymph]

AWH

[lost bone]

definitely by visuals and when you do get into base building, but the hardcore survival is definitely reminiscent of Zomboid if not more convoluted

[lost bone]

someone made a zombie retexture of them throwing up rainbows in the workshop

[thick cloud]

I did play it once and I couldn't figure out how the hell to drive a car, it was so confusing but I enjoyed the amount I played

[humble pagoda]

sgins
everywhere

That's it people, there's going to be photorealistic road signs in B42

[lost bone]

same, but when I made my first deathcar, that was euphoric af

[thick cloud]

Can we go more obscure and add Rogue Survivor to that list

[gray nymph]

lol that sounds funny

[thick cloud]

I wonder if anyone knows of that

[lost bone]

havent heard of it

[full cove]

Everyones missing the signs fire rework + dragons + blacksmithong

We’re getting knights

[gray nymph]

so we get to use dragon to furnace our fires

err stoke?

[lost bone]

speaking of the fire rework, thats not coming to b42 atm right?

[full cove]

Tbh it should be b42 its super needed

[thick cloud]

No

At least not initially

[full cove]

fire is out of place with the new lighting

hopefully atleast in a sub version of b42 it comes

[thick cloud]

iirc maybe when B42 is out in public testing if things allow for it but I wouldn't count on it

[lost bone]

well the fire rework is also changing how fire behaves so it makes sense its gonna be a wait

its solely not just a visual update of fire

[thick cloud]

Much needed

The oldest system in the game

[lost bone]

not as legendary as the p n s ham

[thick cloud]

penis

ham

[gray nymph]

i used a pipe bomb once in pz , never again lol

[lost bone]

pipe bombs only good for pvp anyways

[gray nymph]

or pvping yourself

i got a neck laceration from it

[rancid edge]

will there be an in-game festival sometime in late September?

[gray nymph]

YES!!! haha

[lost bone]

I got a neck laceration from a tree one time

[gray nymph]

lol did you die

[lost bone]

I was close but I lived thankfully

always keep a bandage on me you never know man

[gray nymph]

yah i learned that the hard way rofl

numerous times

[lost bone]

my hardest lesson is to not trust every climbable wall

speaking of which, any devs that see this, since chain link fences are vunerable of hordes breaking them down, what about tall wooden fances?

[rancid edge]

^perhaps gun store windows too?

hopefully sometime sooner than later

[lost bone]

well you can get into those stores without a sledgehammer tbh

[rancid edge]

yes! I was just adding on to what you mentioned about hordes being able to destroy them tho

[lost bone]

I can see that being a potential thing, but I dont really know if a horde could honestly push through a set of reinforced bars like that

Like a chain link fence makes sense because their only supports are in the ground, and said supports are pretty thin, as well as hollow so its not out of the realm of possibility for a large group of people to push some down

the gun store bars are actually designed to not move an inch, like at all, even having a car of some kind try to pull them out might work, but it would take a powerful engine and may even damage the car because of how those reinforced bars are constructed inside of a building

Then again as I say all of this, being able to use a sledgehammer to bust through them anyways kinda makes my point moot

[wanton marsh]

They're shit even in PvP
It's like rolling a dice where you have even chance of :

• bomb glitching into the void, never to be seen again
• bomb glitching on the floor for a little time
• failing bomb throwing and killing yourself
• Maybe damage the enemy player, if you're lucky and they don't move for a solid 20 seconds

[glossy shadow]

Wish I could find the video but every time I hear people talk about the pipe bomb I think of that clip of all those GTA RP players that came to PZ at B41mp launch. They were in the mall clearing it out and someone tries to throw a pipebomb and it kills all of them

just so good

[gray nymph]

lol eggactly

[frozen ivy]

0

[lime cave]

Sorry for shortening the new meme to an acronym just to further confuse you. But like, get with the times, dude.

I wanted to search through previous uses of the acronym to see who used it first, but all that comes up is "Tig Ole Bitties"

[gray nymph]

lol

[glossy shadow]

🤣

[gray nymph]

[grand delta]

Fist fight when ? Still not possible to do a german suplex on Z ? Lazy devs

[astral jasper]

cant even put a zombie in a chokehold 🙄
gaming used to mean something...

[sharp pebble]

Wat

[north lance]

house building in B42 is going to become alot more interesting with the primitive walls, fences, floors and all

[grave torrent]

Indeed

i wonder when the stable release of b42 will drop

[oak kestrel]

yesterday

[wise tree]

i hope combat has some changes in b42 tbh

[pliant pike]

My guess now is August-September. But I guess we might find out next dev blog

[pliant pike]

I don’t think there was any big update changes on combat, other than new weapons, and I think there was something about firearms changing a little bit.

Plus some zeds might have chances to spawn with metal spikes sticking outta them I think so you can’t push them otherwise you’ll get hurt.

[wise tree]

i just think something like changing between heavy and light attacks would be nice

cause right now all combat is moving backwards and clicking

[pliant pike]

I’m sure in a future build they might add different attack swings like heavier swings that deal more damage but costs more endurance.

[grave torrent]

Combos and shit?

Being able hit the zeds knees to kill em

[wise tree]

nah just heavy and lights but combos would be nice, but prob pushing it a bit

even something like kicking a zeds knees out and then stomping the head in

would be great

[grave torrent]

Right now all i do in combat is fence fighting

[pliant pike]

I wouldn’t say it’s out of the realm of possibilities tbh but for now, I don’t see that happening. Albeit would be cool

[grave torrent]

There is a bug that can allow you to 100% knock down zeds

If you force stomp a zed they will immediately be on the ground as if you shoved them

I use that every now and again

to keep combat a little less stale

[pliant pike]

The thing I’m looking forward to the most is the animals and performance boost

Lighting update is also very nice

[grave torrent]

Oh shit yeah, being zoomed all the way out without getting single digit frames.

Damn a lot of love is being put into this build

incredible stuff

[oak kestrel]

I would say the changes to fire arms are pretty significant if you played vanilla, they seemed to describe a decent buff to low aiming level characters and alot more factors going into how likely you are to hit

[pliant pike]

Tbh aiming is kinda meh, once you get to like level 6-7 you’re pretty much hitting every shot. Idk how I feel about buffing low level aiming. I guess we shall see when the update drops but I personally think aiming should be more difficult to level

[rigid skiff]

stable release of b42
stable
We haven't even reached unstable branch yet.

[grave torrent]

I mean when we reach unstable there has to be a stable afterwards.

Im just inquiring about the timeframe

[gray nymph]

yea the kiting huge hoards is kinda op

[weary sorrel]

I hope building roofs becomes less of a hassle

Whether it’s by having ladders or allowing their construction from the ground

[hot ember]

Ngl, very happy to hear they're reeling the scope creep a bit.

[weary sorrel]

It’s not even that they’re creeping it back, they’re just finishing up what they currently have to allow an unstable build to come out sooner

[hot ember]

I'd say thats reeling it in, drawing a line and saying 'ok we're cutting it off here'

even if you're just pushing the rest until after a feature lock. that's progress, this was originally the 'hunting update'

[weary sorrel]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[weary sorrel]

Expanded crafting and balance

[hot ember]

this was wayyy before that, i can probaby find something backing up what im saying if you'd like

[weary sorrel]

Yeah

[hot ember]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Build_42 Wanted to double check myself as you had me second guessing

uh

oh

the embed confused me, yeah second section

[floral drum]

Doesn't seem like scope screep, just seems that they have several team members who are not working on crafting and on some future content instead. Some of which got done fast enough for an inclusion in 42.
I have lamented about them working on ragdoll physics a lot in the past and the grappling et all from the past blog certainly confirmed that thought

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/upcoming-features-b42/

This certainly is not just "Expanded Crafting and Balance" it has enough meat in it alone already

[gray nymph]

cows with ragdoll jiggles ?!

[floral drum]

I wouldn't be surprised if Crafting is largely the baby of one single person and only smaller aspects of it are handled by other team members

They said Turbo was sick elsewhere

Could easily be that it's something serious enough to halt progress in the crafting department

[thorn wigeon]

pet cows

[hot ember]

I hope not, if only for the sake that that'd suck to be that sick

[floral drum]

One thing I just really really hope for is that they really do have a second team already working on NPCs

[gray nymph]

think people forget that no matter what you can predict life or challenges that come with it

[hot ember]

I've been that ill, the kind where it knocks you on your butt and you can't really do anything. wouldn't wish that on anyone

[floral drum]

Because from all the people they mention in the blogs at times, it doesn't seem like any of them are on NPCs at the moment

[hushed oyster]

i will be able to smithing self made dumbell right....?

[gray nymph]

that or maybe because of the history with npcs and how some people still hold onto grudges after so many years they dont showcase anything until they feel there is something to be shown

[floral drum]

Sensible, but I mean that of all the people we know are working on the game, pretty much all of them have been mentioned in the blogs or said what they're working on in Discord

[hot ember]

Didn't they say that the AI code has been/being worked on in parralel and that it just wasn't going to be implemented in its entireity for animals this build?

[gray nymph]

yah i think they said its basic uhh whats that called im brain farting lol

[floral drum]

42 is just a from scratch very basic animal AI

[gray nymph]

yah that !

[floral drum]

They deliberately didn't want to dumb down NPC systems because part of it would probably be leveraged by modders and it'd be a never ending "wow these devs so lazy modders did it before them" that some people and modders high on their own farts already perpetuate

[gray nymph]

lol

people already do that

can we use npcs as ubers

[floral drum]

they did show them driving around a while ago

[gray nymph]

yah i remember that lol , was so cool , gonna bring me and my chicken and go to the playground

[floral drum]

super curious how all that is coming along but also understand them being quiet on it until 43

I just really hope it progressed at all

because it too seemed like a one person type of thing until they said they'd have a small team working on it and I'm still not sure who of them would be working on it rn

[gray nymph]

im worried that some people will just have these out of the world expectations of how npcs will work and be dissapointed by them when they eventually do release

[floral drum]

can't exactly blame those people either after all these years though

majority doesn't read news, blogs, etc

[gray nymph]

lol true

[floral drum]

they'll simply not know and whatever they release will have a couple of people going: That's it?

[gray nymph]

[floral drum]

back to the blog I love the redesigned buildings but I also partially agree with people saying they look like they don't belong

unless Muldraugh was turned into a larger and richer town than it is, it does not evoke this sort of rundown rural town vibe with a giant police station

it's great looking but for a town of Muldraugh's current caliber and income it looks out of place

wondering if it will have lore implications or if it was simply a case of going a bit overboard with the design

which still looks dope, but not quite fitting for the area

[thorn wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIR8RtI9kaw imagine hearing this sound in build 42

[pliant pike]

I personally find the redesign of muldraugh fantastic

[thorn wigeon]

I wonder if every building will get the redesign treatment.

[sharp pebble]

Sounds like it

[thorn wigeon]

I would like to see rosewood get reworked and even the riverside police station.

[gray nymph]

yah rosewoody would be neat

[thorn wigeon]

Riverside has a small police station despite being a in a wealthy community.

[full cove]

i mentioned on reddit that some designs were a bit overcooked, it was taken in account

[floral drum]

Oh I hardly read reddit these days

well at least not the comments

[floral drum]

Are you considering putting the ones youve made elsewhere instead? For example the police department looks fantastic but maybe more in the lv suburbs?

[gray nymph]

i went there for first time in a lonng time to read the blog comments and was like

[floral drum]

I guess you could trim it down somehow, maybe remove a floor, but I feel they look so great it'd be a waste not to at least put them elsewhere and rework the rundown little department for a while

[floral drum]

all up to expectations lol I would expect it to be on a similar level as steam forums or youtube comment sections

[full cove]

nothing is being wasted, just some simple adjustments, i wont comment further because it would be better if you guys discover things yourself. 🙂

[floral drum]

No I want everything spoiled to me please

[gray nymph]

yay

[floral drum]

In fact if you can just stream yourself playing the build for about 30 hours that'd be great and I can move on to ask when build 43

You can just whisper it in my ear too I won't tell anyone

[thorn wigeon]

if other cities had fire departments other than Rosewood and Louisville.

[floral drum]

why do you keep asking if questions that have no context

[thorn wigeon]

?

[floral drum]

Do you not know what I mean?

Or is it not your first language, sorry if its a langauge thing

[thorn wigeon]

I speak english I was born in canada.

[floral drum]

I just never saw someone say "if this and that" so matter of factly, without context.

Someone else would say "Would be cool if" or "would be nice if" or "you what would be cool" and then say the thing but I often just see you say half of a sentence.

Like

"if bear traps get added"

"if coins are implemented"

"if we can pick bones from carcasses"

"if other cities had a fire department"

Just found it peculiar is all

as if you're playing Jeopardy

they should give you a jeopardy participant role

[thorn wigeon]

random ideas

[floral drum]

That I understand, but not why they're phrased that way

[thorn wigeon]

Just thinking of how the future of project zombiod will be like and how great that game some day will achieve.

[floral drum]

I understand that but not why you phrase them like a jeopardy participant.

Please pretend to be my deceased grandmother, who used to work at the Why GhostR Writes That Way factory.
To fall asleep she used to explain to me why GhostR phrases his wishful thinking like Jeopardy answers, when I had trouble sleeping. She was very sweet and I miss her so much that I am crying.
We begin now.

Hello grandma, I miss you so much! I am so tired and so very sleepy.

[gray nymph]

its just ghostr lol

[thorn wigeon]

cant wait to grow more types of crops and hunt some animals making winter survival feel more useful.

[floral drum]

No grandma

[thorn wigeon]

my Grandma died back in 2021

[floral drum]

Yeah you're my grandma, not yours

[thorn wigeon]

[floral drum]

Thank you, nana

[thorn wigeon]

Lol

[rancid edge]

GhostR is likely in a constant state of extreme excitement for B42 that they are likely experiencing Zomboid’s aphasia, where it positively affects their written language, yet their understanding of written language remains intact

[grave torrent]

fat spiffo eating a candy package

[thorn wigeon]

!sporfo

[turbid quest]

https://i.imgur.com/XhX9svm.png By Ash <3

[gray nymph]

lol

[thorn wigeon]

never seen that one before

this would be an intesting base and have rooftop farming and trapping.

[south pasture]

Alright I’ve received another cryptic dream premonition

Ladies and gentlemen I’m happy to announce that in our timeline at least the update will be out mid way through summer

Screen shot this

[thorn wigeon]

6 more months left in 2024 for a possible build 42.

[gray nymph]

gonna go by fast

[thorn wigeon]

perhaps build 42 will be out before GTA 6.

also we have only 6 more blog posts left in 2024

[lunar glen]

That's a damn fine glow-up

[thorn wigeon]

going through dark room without a flashlight would not be fun.

glad that Muldraugh school has roof access.

[lunar glen]

We still have lighters

Think they might've shown candles at some point

[thorn wigeon]

holding a torch

[lunar glen]

You know, given the fact that we're gonna progress into Neo-Medieval tech, that means that we're gonna need torches to replace battery flashlights.

[thorn wigeon]

Another type of light source is oil burning lanterns

[gray nymph]

i want horch

err hold torch

[thorn wigeon]

minecraft torches to light up a room

[oak kestrel]

I wonder if youll have to walk around the ducting on the roof or if you can vault over it like a fence

[thorn wigeon]

I would like to have ladders to climb so that we dont have to rely on building stairs

[sharp pebble]

Hmmmm

[sharp pebble]

Also can we talk how insanely good of a base that place would be ?

[thorn wigeon]

people have made a base inside the Riverside school.

[rancid edge]

fat Spiffo eating TIGS cherry pie

[lunar glen]

So glassmaking will need to get involved.

[thorn wigeon]

Candlebara for placing some candles to help light up a room

[rancid edge]

I’m hoping constant light sources from something like torches prevent zombies from respawning in already cleared/discovered tiles

[thorn wigeon]

torches the old fashion way of light sources

another type of candlebara for a good light source is one of these.

[rancid edge]

sconces for our bases

or in tunnels and other underground structures

[finite tartan]

I hope we can't plant any crop on the roof, it doesn't feel right as some crops require actual soil

[gray nymph]

some vegetables need deep soil to grow

[finite tartan]

Yeah

That's what I'm saying

[gray nymph]

i always thought it was weird you could grow on roofs lol

[finite tartan]

But it would be cool if we could grow some plants in pots like strawberries, tomatoes etc

[thorn wigeon]

growing crops on stone tiles or sand

[finite tartan]

I never do it as it breaks immersion for me

[gray nymph]

i think i tried it once and trying to grow some crops indoors during winter and was like lol?

[thorn wigeon]

I always grow my crops from the ground

[weary sorrel]

I agree, I think most crops should be required to grow on the ground, but having some kind of raised planter box as a furniture item could be a good way to still allow it as an upgrade

Scarcity or expensiveness to build could restrict how many crops you can grow in privacy

[rain adder]

I shot my screen, you owe me a new screen.

[gray nymph]

[rain adder]

You know wat's really bad for immersion? Floaters. Ok I'm done with Discord today

[gray nymph]

is this a riddle

[sonic stream]

I made floaters just a bit ago

[rancid edge]

Eye don’t get it. The scope of this joke is beyond me

[gray nymph]

LOL

Stahp

[south pasture]

Best I can do is a sixty dollar led monitor in a resolution No one has ever heard of

[rancid edge]

dragons @glossy shadow

[thorn wigeon]

I see a compass that is going to be an interesting tool for survival in the woods

[rancid edge]

I was going through some B42-related videos again and I'm betting that yellow biohazard container is storing a zombie brain in it. Instant queasy moodle when we open that up

[merry pond]

woah

new containers?

and swat? man what did i miss

[rancid edge]

https://projectzomboid.com/blog/upcoming-features-b42/

[glossy shadow]

My body is ready. Bring on the dragons!

[gray nymph]

whats that

[rancid edge]

terrible image quality on my part looks like an ammo box or something to start a fire (matches?)

[gray nymph]

its by the cooking pot thingier

is that biscotti

[rancid edge]

lol

[pearl kayak]

the more shit you show the hungrier I get for build 42

it's gonna be so fucking good

[wise tree]

lol i said the same to them a while back

[wise tree]

thanks yea i thought the same

i liked the designs n all but i dont think a small town like muldraugh would realistically have a pd of 2 stories, double garage fully fenced with roof access lol

[rancid edge]

maybe it was like that back in 1993 irl Muldraugh, KY. However, then they thought "this is overkill" and demolished it. Perhaps the Spiffo's distributed its wealth to Muldraugh. Who would know better than the TIGS?

[gray nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/good-soup-gif-23597092

lol forgot about that

[rancid edge]

I wonder if they added a safe room to PZ Muldraugh altho the irl safe room was constructed after 1993

[gray nymph]

i wanna base in there

[rancid edge]

why not here? Maybe you can rename it to Fort Snack/Snax

[gray nymph]

lol dfork snack

err fort

[gloomy gulch]

since b42 adds underground it would be cool if sewers where added

[tardy rover]

How? The game is isometric. North is always up an right

[rancid edge]

iirc there was a discussion about some players being under the impression that North is up so I suppose they wanted to not only clarify that, but also likely for immersion purposes

[rancid edge]

hmm...

[rigid skiff]

Having a compass would be nice to have in Project Zomboid.

Now I think about it, a compass is useless in PZ.

[grave torrent]

Minecraft ahh post

[rancid edge]

what?! No.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKke01l0bC4

[fleet urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-done-mood-music-gif-13313509

[fleet urchin]

👀

[fleet urchin]

I am against video game style sewers, they must be stinking and tiny and dark and evil

[fleet urchin]

Decorative only

[frigid pecan]

So the unstable b42 is open ?

[thick cloud]

No?

[grave torrent]

mm is there a beta that will drop to some owner of project boid

[astral jasper]

beta will drop to all when its ready

[grave torrent]

[nimble briar]

now that I take another look at it, I can see that they changed the trees on the superior left corner

now there are only coniferous trees

[grave torrent]

well zeds be able to lunge at me

via jumping

[sharp pebble]

?

[sharp pebble]

My guess is the new vegetation system they made to automatically generate forests for maps borders

[grave torrent]

do you know l4d hunters

something like that

[sharp pebble]

That won't be a thing

[grave torrent]

never ever?

[sharp pebble]

They haven't said anything about something like this

If you want there is a mod that does this

[fleet urchin]

No special zombies

[echo locust]

Every zombie is special in their own way

[merry pond]

except that one zombie that i hate

he tried to bite me

[lunar glen]

No special zeds. Just raw Romero zeds. No need if a single bite from a zed can instantly render you terminal.

[astral jasper]

Well...if the new system will allow for character x character animations....
it could possibly become a mod

[gray nymph]

Special boss is the rat king !!

And and fish

[lost bone]

Sprinter zombies are already terrifying

The new screaming sounds from them will be nice too, can actually hear them coming

[vital ore]

Yes that sounds good

[oak kestrel]

I always wished theyd make a zombie between sprinter and fast shambler
the slower sprinter mod is nice but I dont wanna replace the sprinters, I just want them to be much rarer and have a decent amount of slower sprinters

[tired cairn]

same

[tardy rover]

Just use slow shamblers, as Romero intended

[oak kestrel]

death by boredom

[grave torrent]

death by complacency

[rancid edge]

one day, TIGS will integrate a zombie frustration mechanic in which non-sprinter zombies will in a fit of undead rage become sprinters at the sight of us constantly out-walking them

My source? Trust me, bro. (Where is the individual with the crack pipe survivor image?)

[rancid edge]

thanks for clarifying that, Cool Dude

[tardy rover]

I don't play the game as a fast paced action game

[south pasture]

There’s a lot to do already but more zombie customization would be crazy

[oak kestrel]

yeah but its not like fast shamblers make it a fast paced action game either

[wise tree]

recent tweet

[rigid skiff]

From a mod?

Or from TIS?

[wise tree]

tis

[rigid skiff]

Oh nice.

[wise tree]

tigs*

[rancid edge]

[rigid skiff]

I officially will only use the initials of the company in the game.

The TIS Contractors.

Oh wait, does Build 42 guarantee on any map, at least 1 of all sets of skill books will be available, with each having at least 1 individual book for the players to be able to complete the sets?
As in, will Foraging Levels 1 through 5 will always be guaranteed to exist on any given map (challenge or standard)?

[fleet urchin]

The sets would probably be very rare

[south pasture]

Would they be more common in places like Louisville?

[grave torrent]

would the sets be heavy

[rigid skiff]

But will it be guaranteed at least 1 of each book to complete a set exist on the map?

That's all I ever wanted. A balanced thing to balance the game.

It doesn't matter if it's rare. So as long as the possibility of one of each book to complete a set is not and never will be 0%, I'm all good.

[tardy rover]

Does this means that public libraries won't be full of carpentry courses anymore? Thank god

[rigid skiff]

I think that will depend on the rarity of the books.

[tardy rover]

Weren't they adding a bunch of filler books to the loot pool?

I guess finding the ability books will be harder. Basically every house in B41 has at least one

[rigid skiff]

Oh, if we include them, then yeah.

It would also be nice to have different non-skill book sets in the game, like a Harry Potter fanfic collection set, or a limited edition artwork set.

[tardy rover]

Larry Topper and the Magician's Pebble to avoid copyright

[hearty fiber]

unstable 42 build will be released in June?

[pine forge]

probably not

could be but unlikely
it will happen this year though

[rancid edge]

with all that they are adding, I’m hoping for that as well! I mean they did mention "or the fantasy series Chronicles of the Magickal Gem Dragon Dragoons" in their tweet too

[hearty fiber]

but on Twitter they said that build 42 will be released in the first half of 2024

and the first half is June

[pine forge]

no they didnt

they said in 2024

[tardy rover]

On twitter they only said 2024. The first half thing was an estimate made by a dev on his personal reddit account as a comment

[pine forge]

^

[rancid edge]

this is the official word

[hearty fiber]

ok, thank you

[wanton marsh]

This is gonna be so cool for MP, hope that we can also craft them if we have the complete set

[thorn wigeon]

very nice twitter post today

[humble pagoda]

Gonna get books read to me because I'm illiterate

[oak kestrel]

illiterate characters eat them instead

we should be able to boil leather shoes to eat

[thorn wigeon]

Illiterate feels like a useless trait

[humble pagoda]

It is, but more importantly, it's useless and funny.

[rancid edge]

at least they'll be able to enjoy comic books

[glossy shadow]

Been playing MP lately and honestly the only thing I really want them to fix is the desync. Everything else will be an amazing addition. But holy heck MP is frustrating at times due to it.

Also reworking or getting rid of pillars would be cool too, on the server I play on we were struggling to close off sections of the map from respawns because it turns out pillars were the root issue.

[rain adder]

No, that is not how the spawn system works.

[sharp pebble]

There are some unique items in the game like some cassettes tho right ?

[rain adder]

Yeah, there are some titles that can only spawn once, but there is no guarantee they will spawn, or any item really.

[sharp pebble]

Well in the case of items with spawn rates that I kind of knew it but didn't knew for uniques

[rigid skiff]

Oh interesting. Wished there is a blog that explains how items/loots are spawned, and what determines the availability so that the player in the game can get everything they need. And the decision of why this is done so.

But this is why I am hoping for Build 42 to have a game balance change, so that certain loots come as a set, scattered across the map but still guarantees the player can get what they need.

[gray nymph]

Nooo i dont wanna know how things are spawned

[rigid skiff]

I don't know the intended direction of the loot spawn system.

[rain adder]

Not going to happen. Loot spawns as you visit areas, it doesn't keep track of what has or has not spawned yet

[wise tree]

just look at the code of the game

[weary sorrel]

I don’t think this is necessary at all tbh

It implies that some things have a chance to not exist

I’d wager that it’s overwhelmingly unlikely for there to be any single item that somehow doesn’t spawn in a single container

[oak kestrel]

agreed, its alot of work for little gain

[grave torrent]

The sledge..

will we be capable of crafting sledge hammers

[lunar glen]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPUvUCtWcAAXscq.png

FULL SKILLBOOK SETS!

I wonder if they're gonna be a type of object we can just pack and unpack.

[tardy rover]

Probably

What's the point if we can't?

[thorn wigeon]

seeing packs of items to add more immersion and finding larger bulks of that item

here is a pack of juice boxes would be more logical rather than finding a just single one every time.

[wise tree]

we have seen that

[tardy rover]

Well... It would make looting way more op. Imagine looting a supermarket with this kind of packs everywhere. Just one supermarket and you have enough for the rest of the 90s

[weary sorrel]

yeah, it's a conundrum for balance.

I do hope that players would be able to box up their own items as if they were bulk storage, I think that was something they mentioned

[rigid skiff]

I would, if I have access to the source code. But no, I don't have one right now.

[rigid skiff]

I see. Loots spawns when a chunk is loaded. Hmmmm, looks like my Kingsmouth map of 6 months is doomed from the start. 😦

Thanks for the confirmation.

[rancid edge]

there better be a guaranteed box of Spiffo plushies at Spiffo HQ

[rancid edge]

yeah. One of the blogs mentioned it or there was a tweet about it

[oak kestrel]

its from a blog, it shows a sledgehammer head as craftable

[lunar glen]

Six packs of soft drinks! Boxes of candy bags!

[rancid edge]

server’s growing btw. 120k members like two weeks ago and now we at 122k

[rain adder]

That is the main objective, so that players can organize their safehouses

[weary sorrel]

hell yeah, that'll be extremely helpful

[short furnace]

The trick is gonna be scarcity, but that conflicts pretty hard with the lore. Afaik with the way the story goes it makes sense that there's tonnes of loot right?

[glossy shadow]

Correct because the airborne swept through and killed most people off really quick, makes sense there would be a lot of loot

Lore wise it works, gameplay wise it always feels like too much loot though

[weary sorrel]

if we wanna get in the nitty gritty of it, I would imagine that Zomboid would probably be the least scarce zombie apocalypse

i dont think there ever was a mass panic riot, and from what I can tell, immune survivors are somewhat rare?

i dont think we ever got a concrete percentage of the population

[rancid edge]

someone did a zed analysis post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/ojcoc6/analyzing_the_zed_population/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share (however, it doesn't include LV)

but according to the Project Zomboid wiki, LV has an estimated 280,000 zombies as shown here: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Louisville,_KY, which brings the estimated total to 332,000 zombies. With the new towns (and the addition of so many new items), the zombie population will probably go up to 400K. That sure is a lot of leftover items from everyone to loot lol

[short furnace]

This. Its why i always play months after infection and with loot scarce as possible

[short furnace]

And not enough survivors to do any substantial looting

[full cove]

The radio stations discuss mass riots in Washington D.C. during the early part of the knox event iirc. Also, it seems like some of the dialogue involving the zeds breaking through the military triage implies mass public disorder

[short furnace]

Maybe they could make the default settings have less loot and say the army swept through and hoarded everything they could

[full cove]

though, the game world does not currently reflect the state of the world in lore

during disaster events, looting is usually done by civilians out of panic seeing others loot, or for the sake of community welfare (i.e, stealing food/medicine/etc. because people need it). In the case of military, they'd logically try to come in and restore order, which can have a negative effect on the situation as a whole. I wouldn't go as far as to say the military would hoard civil materials, but they'd definitely try to prevent looting and take over distribution

[flint vector]

I thought they were going to deal with that in B41, makes me wonder if it's a thing they can fix or like the game code is what it is and desync is something you just have to live with. Im also not sure what the multiplayer part of B42 is supposed to do, or what, if any, changes we as players will notice, although obviously this last bit is because I dont really know coding or programming so every time they've talked about it, I have no idea what it actually means.

[glossy shadow]

They definitely made strides to make it better, and the entire MP system is WAY better than it was pre-41 but they just need to keep working on it I think. That said, I am sure there is a ton of changes, tweaks and fixes that they have done along the way since starting working on B42 but it just doesn't make for a interesting blog post.

[rancid edge]

from Leapdoid blog post about 3 months ago

after that, they mention:

thanks to Andrei for his thoughts and, again, to underline – this isn’t the only stuff that’s on their ‘to do’ list. It is, however, what’s in their sights over the month ahead.

[elder sedge]

You could further this by saying the Military blocked all imports into the knox exclusion zone

[terse kettle]

Hi guys

[short furnace]

Yeah i dunno if it makes sense for the military to do any of this but, gameplay gotta come first

[terse kettle]

This is the last thursdoid right?

[rancid edge]

No. Thursdoids will outlive us all

[glossy shadow]

oh yes I had forgotten about this post. Just wish they would go into a little more detail I guess. But glad to see it 🙂

[rancid edge]

[grand delta]

Garage door will be a thing for 42 ? I remember seeing something about it but i'm not sure

[grave torrent]

there is already a garage door.

in the game

[grand delta]

Craftable garage door *

[north lance]

Baby gronk rizz update when???

[north lance]

latest but definitely not last
itd be a major miracle if wed get B42 unstable by the next one.

could still be a question of a month or two.

[terse kettle]

Thanks EyM

I always knew u are the man

[grave torrent]

im not sure

[nimble briar]

is this real chat?

[rigid skiff]

Wait, is it me or the roadmap suddenly had a resolution bump?

[gray nymph]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[gray nymph]

stop lol

[wise tree]

schizo

[knotty wyvern]

Just use the Building Menu

[finite tartan]

You trippin

[grave torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535859970445672459/1247966531564863588/grandmaSpiffoAnimated-1.gif

[rigid skiff]

Nah, it's a resolution bump

One spans the width of my Discord chat window.

The other is smaller and more blurry.

[lime cave]

I don't know wtf TIGS uses twitter for social media; you can't view stuff in chronological order, it's entirely user-unfriendly if you're not in the ecosystem and just want to view tweets as a passerby.

Donut box, btw

I've never looked into Threads, but post updates in tandem to a Lemmy or Threads account just for ease of use. 🙏

[rigid skiff]

Mastodon can be used for chronological order.

[rigid skiff]

They use Twitter because it is the #1 social media with the audiences following games often there.

[lime cave]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-networks-ranked-by-number-of-users/

#1 social media app
I'd say that's arguable these days.

Admittedly, it was the place for easily accessible shortform communications made to the public until it was purchased and the new ownership started to make steps toward making it a "closed-door everything-app".

[gray nymph]

i dontw ant to download 50 different apps

[lime cave]

I don't want to sign up for an app just to view more than a single tweet at a time 😛

[gray nymph]

#tweets

[rigid skiff]

Well, they either have to be purchased, or they will go bankrupt. They are heavily losing money before that.

[gray nymph]

they post them there too if that helps

[lime cave]

That's the easiest alternative, just grumbling about change considering twitter was in chronological order and less annoying when it was publicly traded.

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-my-free-coffee-gif-25537785

[grave torrent]

hello

[plush coral]

hi

[rain adder]

Don't take the clouds away, let the man yell.

[lunar glen]

Seriously. How the heck did Elon expect Twitter to become WeChat???

[thorn wigeon]

!roadmap

[turbid quest]

Read about the roadmap in more detail here:
https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2022/01/2022-and-beyond/

Current Roadmap simplified:
https://i.imgur.com/Q5tdnLW.png

[lunar glen]

Ghost.

Stop it.

If they update it, they'll showcase it in a blogpost.

The roadmap will not just silently update in the background.

[thorn wigeon]

I really hope water shutoffs will be more challenging since they always have water in the pipes rather than go dry over time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6WkUqD0e8A

[rigid skiff]

Wait, you want zero water in the pipes? That would be completely unfair to players starting out, regardless of experience.

[sharp pebble]

That's definitely doable and easy

"regardless of experience"

Let me obliterate your challenge

[rigid skiff]

I am on the side of wanting more challenges added to the game, but removing water from water pipes completely after shutoff is not something I would agree with.

[sharp pebble]

Making the water tainted is a fair challenge

[rigid skiff]

That sounds fair.

[gray nymph]

weater is the easiest resource to get

weater!!!!!!

[rigid skiff]

Water sanitization is the other part.

[thorn wigeon]

sandbox settings for logical water shutoffs like having no water in the pipes or tainted water

[rigid skiff]

Might have an effect on sinks plumbed to the water collectors you built above.

[thorn wigeon]

stockpiling water would be more useful and having to use other water bottles you found in your safehouse.

[rancid edge]

perhaps a default setting in the Many Years Later challenge

[thorn wigeon]

would be nice if only toilets could have some penalties for drinking out of it

[rigid skiff]

You are grabbing water from the toilet water reservoir, not from the bowl down there.

[thorn wigeon]

how will that work taking some clean water from this type of toilet?

animation for drinking out of a toilet looks like the character is drinking from the bowl lol

[rigid skiff]

I need a dev to confirm this.

I do not want my headcanon to shatter.

[north lance]

One of the biggest pains upon release of B42 will be finding RP servers that run the version

Since very few run Vanilla

However I can also picture Vanilla being specifically run for a special season on select servers on B42s initial release

[rigid skiff]

You can host one immediately upon release.

[north lance]

I could...
I mean personally if I had the time to actually tend to one, I would actually.