Dedicated Server Min Max Spec? | Project Zomboid | Page 1

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 7:03 PM

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So any opinions on if this is decent enough to run very large amounts of zeds on a xl map for a dedicated server? Processor (CPU):
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12-Core Processor (24 CPUs), ~3.8GHz
Memory (RAM):
131,072MB RAM
Storage:
2TB WD Black NVMe SSD (3,400/2,800 MB/s)

weak idol Dec 27, 2023, 7:28 PM

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It would depend on whether you will have any mods and how many players you plan to have

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But otherwise it is pretty much super high spec for running a single server

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 7:41 PM

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As it stands I run multiple other servers from this box, dayz and conan exiles, but i still have about 90gb left of ram to spare and 8 cpu cores

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I am looking at about 150 mods

weak idol Dec 27, 2023, 7:49 PM

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That will work fine as well, as long as the mods themselves will not cause any memory leaks or server lockups

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Which can happen if the mod just spams commands, regardless of what hardware you have

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 9:02 PM

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this guy... lol most people be asking if they can run a server on 4gb of ram with a dual core, meanwhile he has 131gb of ram and a 12 core ryzen 9.

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 9:45 PM

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brittle wolf So any opinions on if this is decent enough to run very large amounts of zeds on...

Doesnt really matter what processor you have if the mods cause conflicts / memory leaks

Additionally, PZ does not utilize multithreading very efficiently

Even at max load, it typically only uses 1-2 threads

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 9:53 PM

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the 3900x turbos to 4.6 GHz

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 9:55 PM

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shrewd raptor the 3900x turbos to 4.6 GHz

Im aware

Doesnt really matter if mods are conflicting and eating RAM

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Writing mod errors fast af isnt helpful

What matters is making sure that there is a well stacked mods list and enough overhead memory for surges

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 9:57 PM

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i wasn't saying anything to you really, just noticing myself while looking it up and posting the info

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 9:57 PM

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A slower processor that supports ECC RAM is actually better for PZ because the ECC will sometimes kill a mod memory leak

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However, OP should have no issue running a decent sized world

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 9:58 PM

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not really going to find many people with ECC ram hosting game servers at home... maybe a few..

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 9:58 PM

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Unless the host box is being used simultaneously for other heavy tasks

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 9:58 PM

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shrewd raptor not really going to find many people with ECC ram hosting game servers at home.....

Facts, but it is possible

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 10:34 PM

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It is ecc ram

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Technically a dual cpu server board

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I'd rather have installed with a epyc but phew, those buggers are not $$$

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 10:39 PM

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brittle wolf It is ecc ram

Good, that will help a bit

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 10:49 PM

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this freakin guy even with ECC ram jeez, this is one hell of a rig

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not sure how ECC would help at all with memory leaks tho...

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@brittle wolf what is the "XL map"? just adding a bunch of map mods?

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 10:52 PM

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shrewd raptor not sure how ECC would help at all with memory leaks tho...

Some cyclical memory leaks that are small will pop as errors on the ECC

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It can slow the memory leak down

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 10:53 PM

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never heard of that, interesting.

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 10:54 PM

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Technically the board supports 1028gb ram total

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16x64gb sticks max

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DDR4 PC4-2666V-R ECC Reg Server Memory

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 10:57 PM

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was this used hardware or something?

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 10:57 PM

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New

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Part of a rent to own

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 10:58 PM

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brittle wolf Part of a rent to own

Rent to own?

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:00 PM

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Essentially you place the order for a server and wait 14 to 28 days, you choose parts from a list and that determines your monthly price. They then put it in a data center and configure it for rdp

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Once they build it of course

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 11:00 PM

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What security are you running onboard it then?

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:03 PM

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Right now the base windows defender on windows server 2019 made sure to block all unnecessary ports and set security settings up

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 11:04 PM

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brittle wolf Right now the base windows defender on windows server 2019 made sure to block al...

If its linux, you need to properly set up Fail2Ban

Look up some guides and videos on it

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:05 PM

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you know what you might be able to do, tho it would be high risk lol, but would give you a speed boost on the server that i bet, that no one has done. run the server in a ram fs 😄

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:05 PM

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Lol

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:06 PM

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the pz server i mean

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:06 PM

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Not as worried on speed

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Sec let me post full spec

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:07 PM

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i bet faster speed ram would give you better performance than the slower ECC ram, but i can't say for sure lol

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:07 PM

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This is off my discord where we will be listing the servers

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:08 PM

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windows server tho 🤮

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:09 PM

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Windows is my backend as it's what I was taught on back in college

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:10 PM

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i use to run fail2ban all the time, but not usually anymore. it often provides a false sense of security. it's not going to stop someone that has the want and knowledge. it will keep your log files clean though haha

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:10 PM

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brittle wolf Windows is my backend as it's what I was taught on back in college

it'll probably work just fine, i'm just joking 😛

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:10 PM

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That's where you gotta set up a honeypot 🤣

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Something to lure em

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 11:11 PM

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brittle wolf That's where you gotta set up a honeypot 🤣

Hopefully not inside the same box

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:11 PM

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He'll no

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 11:11 PM

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Good

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:13 PM

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the RDP is probably your big weak spot, depending on how you login

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and PZ itself haha

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:14 PM

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I use a security token on top of user and pass

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Became a paranoid bugger after my ethical hacking class in college, learned a few tricks

foggy oak Dec 27, 2023, 11:16 PM

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Are you dockerizing PZ?

brittle wolf Dec 27, 2023, 11:16 PM

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And how to do my own pin testing

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Right now, no. It's just me with machine access. I ultimately plan to have each server on its own Linux instance

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Headache for me is going to be writing a control program for it all

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Might use a open source tool like petradactyl and customize it to what I need

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:20 PM

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Pterodactyl seems popular, but has some minor issues of its own(if not setup correctly) . It looks quite nice tho

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I want to try it myself

shrewd raptor Dec 27, 2023, 11:40 PM

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@brittle wolf mind sharing what the monthly cost is now, and what will it be to keep it there once you own the hardware?

brittle wolf Dec 28, 2023, 12:03 AM

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Sec, still at work

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98$ a month right now

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For 26 months

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Once paid it's a straight 30

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You share rack space at a colocation site in downtown NYC

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Those plans are based off per rack slot/server

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And what your internet plan is

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400$ for a rack, not counting internet

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Per mo

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If you used your own hardware

foggy oak Dec 28, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Sounds pretty expensive

shrewd raptor Dec 28, 2023, 12:24 AM

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30/month once it's paid off is pretty good i think

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specially for that connection

shrewd raptor Dec 28, 2023, 12:41 AM

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i'm paying $40/month for a kimsufi dedi (OVH DC in quebec)

Xeon E5-1650 v3 12 cores @ 3.50GHz (3.8GHZ boost)
64 gb ram
2x500GB SSD (SATA, so unfortunately only 440/380 MB/s)
my internet connection on that is kinda shit tho, 100mbit. for most game servers it doesn't matter though.

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and since i'm a lil crazy, i raid0 those bad boys and get 950mb/s read speeds lol. i wonder how much the soft raid hurts my latency tho

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440 x 2 tho... idk how i'm getting 950

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(i made sure to do direct i/o, so it's not caching. if it was cache it would be a lot faster even)

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oh, i see, they are actually doing 525 mb/s when i test them myself. that was just the average online benchmark i quoted for 440 mb/s

brittle wolf Dec 28, 2023, 3:15 AM

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So far I'm enjoying it quite a bit

brittle wolf Dec 28, 2023, 5:34 AM

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got a bit done

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been writing the controlling application with python... its capable of detecting the os win/linux and downloading steam cmd and running an embedded version inside it. it has a very basic gui atm... reminds me of a win 95 internet browser, it caches the login and pass for steam cmd if you want and it also has a checkbox to enable anonymous login.

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and thats where im calling it for tonight

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tomorrow gonna build in the functions so it can use a prefab copy of vmware and install a linux ubuntu image

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then detect what os and install steam cmd to it... and then allow the master application to manage the server from a webportal

shrewd raptor Dec 28, 2023, 4:00 PM

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Bro is going all out. This sounds pretty cool haha

brittle wolf Dec 28, 2023, 4:51 PM

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ok its able to install and configure linux based and open a series of ports based on a master list inside the application

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right now it can handle 5 instances, with a drop down menu for selecting which dedicated game server to que from steam cmd and add to the machine

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next step is going to be writing a more in depth gui and linking it to either the configurable server bat files or modded config files

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will add later functions to setup and configure steam mods

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and finished debugging the modlist on pz for the server

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so ill try to get that going later, since its the easier thing to do

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