#general_chat

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onyx igloo
rain mango
polar kernel
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i had thai food

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now its time to take excedrin and drink

thin wedge
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gas station sushi

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uh oh someone slipped a roofie in our sushi

rain mango
maiden nymph
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me when it’s my turn to make a pile of dogshit in the make a pile of dogshit competition but I see solo leveling already completed:

fathom igloo
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So you then

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@plush cobalt have you had a root canal before?

plush cobalt
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No. I choose to let my teeth rot, then allow a new tooth to grow from the rotted remains of the former tooth, like a phoenix

plush cobalt
fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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My phoenixes are doing just fine

fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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I only have two implants and they're not teeth

fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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When I fell from heaven? No

fathom igloo
vital marten
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Snow this year

plush cobalt
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Is a hammer a typical root canal implement

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It's January no more snow

fathom igloo
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Raph was talking about Shawarma earlier now I want some

vital marten
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We’ll have a tornado in a week don’t worry

plush cobalt
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Much better

lilac quarry
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bbl??

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crazy

plush cobalt
fathom igloo
plush cobalt
lilac quarry
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go piss girl

fathom igloo
fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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Have you considered not being sick

vital marten
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Just leave it behind smh

fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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What the hell

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She should be banned for that message

vital marten
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Threats of biological attack

plush cobalt
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Erm, mods??

oak gazelle
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HOW CAN SHE SNEEZE

plush cobalt
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This one I'm surprisingly okay with

vital marten
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But how

fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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I am less okay with this one

fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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Too much of both

vital marten
# fathom igloo

It’s bad enough getting an eyelash in your eye now what about someone’s entire lashes 😭

fathom igloo
vital marten
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All toe no foot

plush cobalt
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This definitely will not do me any favors to say but hands are conceptually more weird looking to me than feet

vital marten
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Why do you have these Cambrie 😭

plush cobalt
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Good question actually 🧐 Who's the real freak here

fathom igloo
plush cobalt
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Likely story

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Your keyboard is a soprano

fathom igloo
vital marten
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This is a fitting reaction to allergies

plush cobalt
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Yeah that's just an average spring

fathom igloo
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Oh wrong chat haha

candid patio
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im too tired to do literally anything

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i'm too tired to go to bed

candid patio
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i'm too tired to play video games

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to pick a youtube video

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i just want to sit and look at a wall

rain mango
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fine, i'll play b42.

trim vault
rain mango
fathom igloo
loud pumice
candid patio
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i just laid the groundwork for the best valentines day present

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hopefully it works out

short tinsel
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I being great news

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America has the discombobulator

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Idk what it does

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It’s just the discombobulator

oak gazelle
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guess we upgraded from covfefe

short tinsel
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Perchance

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Maybe it goes along with it

rain mango
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this is what mods feel like

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i love modslop

plush cobalt
# rain mango jeez

I bet whoever wrote this originally included “you dumb motherfucker” but QA told them to scale it back a bit

rain mango
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this is oddly specific

plush cobalt
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Less lazy explanation: maximum value for a signed (i.e., can be positive or negative) integer that can be stored in 32 bits

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So not oddly specific—it's a power of 2 minus 1

thin wedge
rain mango
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remembering the darkness of b42 nights

oak gazelle
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should I watch tropic thunder or kick ass tonight

plush cobalt
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Both

thin wedge
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tropic thunder

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at the same time

plush cobalt
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Tropic ass

oak gazelle
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nic cage and rdj in the same fever dream

thin wedge
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never go full kick ass

oak gazelle
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for a while I mixed up Super with Kick Ass, both good movies but for different reasons

candid patio
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i'm really amazed that you didn't catch an auto mute for this

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probably delete this

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he's definitely on the do not talk about list

oak gazelle
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once I finish up the rest of Dan Vs. it'll be Tropic Thunder then Kick-Ass 1 and 2, kinda zombie movied myself out last weekend

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my poor rx 580 just encoding my media going 'I used to play games'

plush cobalt
candid patio
oak gazelle
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I get it, some days it's all I can do

candid patio
oak gazelle
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then I just choose a channel / old programming like old sci fi channel or adult swim shows and just watch those en masse

plush cobalt
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I like to turn on the TV and switch it to the channel with the creatures

candid patio
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i was super into one piece for like 300 episodes... then i got to season gap in netflix and i lost interest

candid patio
plush cobalt
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It's very nice

candid patio
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okay i know everyone hates ai

oak gazelle
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If nothing else I can just hit randomize all on my plex movies

candid patio
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but if there was an ai david attenborough talking about animals service

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with random footage of animals

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even if its ai footage of animals

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as long as it was accurate

plush cobalt
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He's still alive

candid patio
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that would be dope af

plush cobalt
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He's still alive and still works, what would be the point

candid patio
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i'm talking about every animal

plush cobalt
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Why not just watch the many things he has provided his voice to

candid patio
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because its limited

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iono you can hate ai or not thats not what i'm trying to talk about

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i just think that if this thing existed it would be really cool

oak gazelle
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could get the same effect by doing drugs and watching old attenborough films tbh

candid patio
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and like... without it, you would have to curate his whole collection of relevant works

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and figure out some way to spool it together in an endless loop

oak gazelle
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lol oh no collecting media I like its such a chore

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I can't relate media curation is my jam

candid patio
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telling a robot to make you a never ending stream of david attenborough narrating animals doing stuff just sounds so easy

plush cobalt
candid patio
plush cobalt
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Especially with generated footage. Then you're not even watching nature

short tinsel
candid patio
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do you have like a vinyl collection?

oak gazelle
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nah just lots of cds dvds and blurays

short tinsel
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And then i said not to post anything related to “insert name” and got
Muted again

candid patio
oak gazelle
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which all get encoded and thrown onto my plex media server

candid patio
plush cobalt
oak gazelle
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I haven't had cable tv in over a decade because it's easy to stream the new stuff and buy what I like the most later when realeased to media

plush cobalt
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If it's trying to mimic nature footage then it would likely fool viewers not aware of the AI, whereas animation is clear that it's illustrative in nature

candid patio
oak gazelle
plush cobalt
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I don't care if you want it lol

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I'm saying I don't see the utility of the idea. At no point did I say “you are wrong for thinking this and this is controversial”

candid patio
plush cobalt
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?

candid patio
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the convenience

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you said you don't see the utility

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the utility is that it is convenient

plush cobalt
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It sounds like you're the one trying to do the convincing

oak gazelle
plush cobalt
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You can want it, I don't personally see the utility

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Phones and TVs are plenty convenient for me

oak gazelle
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just rewatched Dr Horribles Sing Along Blog

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such a specific placeholder in american media

candid patio
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i LOVE convenience

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comfort and convenience are two of my favorite things

plush cobalt
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I don't think convenience implies utility

candid patio
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i prize that quality over everything else

short tinsel
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Dragon ball super is coming back

oak gazelle
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my box sets for black books, community, parks and rec, outlaw star, cowboy bebop etc I just like having the ability to rewatch what I love over and over without worrying about if my streaming service is eventually going to just drop it

short tinsel
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That’s cool

candid patio
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quality is my third c

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cuality

plush cobalt
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Not that I'm anti-convenience

candid patio
plush cobalt
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Just like, in the same way that easy doesn't mean good

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It's easy to fill my socks with ice

short tinsel
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And convenience

oak gazelle
candid patio
plush cobalt
candid patio
candid patio
mellow birch
candid patio
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"convenience is not useful, profitable, or beneficial in a permanent, essential, or characteristic way"

oak gazelle
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chasing down a box set of dexters lab and the fairly oddparents but yeah I think there's some extra features in the courage box set but just standard stuff like commentary alternative audio tracks

plush cobalt
plush cobalt
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But yeah

candid patio
plush cobalt
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What I mean is the “essential” part. Convenience doesn't imply those in and of itself

mellow birch
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I agree that it perhaps isn’t essential, but it does imply utility generally speaking

plush cobalt
candid patio
mellow birch
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it sounds like you’re trying to say that convenience isn’t always good, desirable, or useful, and I’d definitely agree with that

plush cobalt
candid patio
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I would argue that objectively convenience is useful and beneficial, and often times profitable, in a permanent, essential, or characteristic way.

candid patio
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alright alright hold the phone here

mellow birch
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convenience is a pro, but it doesn’t inherently outweigh the cons it implies

plush cobalt
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I agree

mellow birch
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that’s the more straightforward way of holding a similar perspective

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imo at least

candid patio
plush cobalt
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I don't think it gets at what I was trying to say

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I do agree with it though

oak gazelle
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ooh going to have to go back and finish quantum leap as well. think I got to season 3 last time before getting distracted, and I'd like to finish it up before watching the reboot. got to look through my collection and see what zombie content I forgot about after doing the 28 days later marathon

plush cobalt
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Good show

candid patio
oak gazelle
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such an iconic concept and execution

candid patio
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i didn't realize i was annoying you.

plush cobalt
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You should probably reread the message you responded to

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Your response came across as an intentional misinterpretation in bad faith, but maybe it wasn't intentional

candid patio
twin bear
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My nephew is a pure troll in gmod oh my god

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mellow birch
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I said convenience isn’t always inherently worth the trouble it can cause

plush cobalt
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Okay, have a good day/evening

oak gazelle
mellow birch
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you said that therefore I must give up things that are sanitary and useful to be consistent

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I think that’s a dishonest and dumb argument to say in response to what I said

oak gazelle
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the wonderful thing about the human condition is being capable of contradiction in self expression without sacrificing authenticity

plush cobalt
mellow birch
plush cobalt
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That is, understood it as “always isn't” rather than “isn't always”

mellow birch
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oh, yeah, I guess that would make that response make a lot more sense

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it felt very, um

twin bear
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Bald water sports no swim caps all shiny heads

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Hear me out 26 Olympics

mellow birch
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Slappy’s response to me saying convenience isn’t always worth the trouble it can cause felt like this image xD

twin bear
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Cartoons

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Peasant looks like the guy from that one open world exploration game

unreal bane
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Alright what's all this then.

twin bear
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Babdi or wtv

mellow birch
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just a birb chirping and a hand slapping

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and Omar uh

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(Omar)ing

unreal bane
hardy muralBOT
candid patio
oak gazelle
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oooh so close

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1 xp

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thats ridiculous

twin bear
unreal bane
oak gazelle
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okay so real question time, Letterkenny or Shoresy (the show not character within said first show)

candid patio
mellow birch
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that’s not why I called you dumb

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it was specifically how you responded to what I said lol

candid patio
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that is the belief that i was trying to convey. so if you are calling my example of that dumb, that's fine

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but if you are calling that belief dumb, i'm offended

mellow birch
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okay

plush cobalt
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I wasn't joking when I said you should probably reread that message 😅 this really might be due to having misread it

mellow birch
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not the basic idea that convenience is generally good

candid patio
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i think what you are trying to describe from your side of the perspective, is that sometimes convenience is a bad thing.

mellow birch
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yes

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it doesn’t always outweigh the cons of its practical creation

candid patio
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and while i can understand that as an idea. i feel like objectively if something is a bad thing, it is not convenient.

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it could be marketed as convenient

mellow birch
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convenient in one sense but detrimental in another

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that’s capitalism in a nutshell

candid patio
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but in reality its not convenient

simple bear
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a squirrel and a hawk too

plush cobalt
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Wouldn't that mean the thing you described that started this discussion wouldn't be convenient? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying

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Regardless of how you feel about AI, it certainly is detrimental in some respects. This is true of nearly all technology

mellow birch
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I didn’t even realize this was all about AI

deep socket
plush cobalt
mellow birch
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I just saw you saying convenience is overrated and got interested

plush cobalt
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I think after we acknowledged we weren't on the same page about the AI thought it really became a discussion of semantics lol

candid patio
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i am fascinated by someone who could think that convenience is overrated.

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give me an example

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of something convenient that you think is detrimental

mellow birch
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because so much of our modern world is designed around convenience

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let’s look at AI

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the convenience of outsourcing your own cognitive processing

candid patio
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okay AI ONLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF CONVENIENCE

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keep your anti ai bs quiet

mellow birch
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it is detrimental in many other ways

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let’s look at amazon

karmic jetty
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i am here

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ooookay

mellow birch
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it’s a highly efficient rube goldberg machine of human suffering and convenient deliveries

karmic jetty
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i am leaving

candid patio
plush cobalt
candid patio
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nope i'm pondering hang on

mellow birch
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not thinking for yourself is expedient but isn’t beneficial in the long run

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calling it convenient or easy to utilize is also true

candid patio
# mellow birch it is detrimental in many other ways

pehaps are you saying that relying on ai to do various forms of thinking for us, that is detrimental to society, and because of that, ai should be scorned and shunned, even if it can do things that are fun and convenient?

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and that detriment exceeds the benefit

mellow birch
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I’m saying convenience can be double edged

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it alone doesn’t make something good, something being too convenient can have its own set of drawbacks

plush cobalt
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This would probably be easier to discuss with an example that people are less opinionated about

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On either end

mellow birch
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an example of how AI can be convenient: cognitive offloading

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very convenient, very bad for a person’s development

candid patio
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i agree with that when looking at it from your perspective, but from my perspective, the opposite side of my convenient sword is still convenient. if something is negative, its inconvenient

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that's a different sword

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except its a frying pan

mellow birch
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I don’t believe things can be separated out like that

plush cobalt
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I'm not sure I understand this analogy

mellow birch
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the world isn’t words, it’s reality with all of its messy interconnectedness

candid patio
long pumice
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hello, is chicken apocalypse fixed?

karmic jetty
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i dunno whats goin on but i feel like i should stay out of it otag

plush cobalt
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This is because you are ruled by fear zeerol

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But that's okay. Coward

candid patio
karmic jetty
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i fear for p word

plush cobalt
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I don't think this is all that political

mellow birch
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I think it is (that’s a good thing)

karmic jetty
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oh no i was thinking of a diff thing

candid patio
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jesus, that's getting called p word???

plush cobalt
candid patio
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can't talk about anything anymore

unreal bane
long pumice
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im arguing with my friend on our server, he wants to slaughter all my chickens, saying that the chicken apocalypse is not fixed at all and im arguing against it because i like the chickens. i would love an answer ::)

candid patio
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that's a paddlin

karmic jetty
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free chimkens

mellow birch
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hope this helps 👍

oak gazelle
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not his tiny, tasty dinosaurs, not his call

plush cobalt
mellow birch
candid patio
mellow birch
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it’s something I had to struggle hard to understand

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as an autistic person it was hard to grasp

mellow birch
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this is the words of a very neurodivergent person breaking away from thought patterns that got in the way of understanding reality in high fidelity

karmic jetty
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is this all just about convenience or thinking machines

plush cobalt
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Both

candid patio
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like i can describe something round or triangular or big or small without words...

mellow birch
candid patio
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but like... sign language is still words

karmic jetty
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idk the full convo here but imo convenience should not be without regulations cat_shrug

mellow birch
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the words are the impression the thing leaves you with, not the thing in of itself

candid patio
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oooooh that r word feels close to p words

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i can't discuss that but i think its a neat opinion

mellow birch
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therefore logically contradictory ways of describing something can be true

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but in different senses

karmic jetty
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thinking machines are harmful period

candid patio
mellow birch
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declining?

plush cobalt
mellow birch
oak gazelle
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a calculator calculates, it doesn't think

candid patio
karmic jetty
candid patio
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desktop pcs?

plush cobalt
oak gazelle
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bingo

plush cobalt
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Yet it's used as an analogy

candid patio
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thinking machines are 100% harmful?

oak gazelle
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and so much of ai hype and misinformation is based around that misconception

candid patio
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if you say 99.9% harmful... i can accept that

plush cobalt
karmic jetty
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i just call ai thinking machines as a doon reference otag

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but if you say 100% im gonna work really hard to disprove it

karmic jetty
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but yeah none of it are actually thinking machines

candid patio
plush cobalt
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I agree it's an important distinction

mellow birch
oak gazelle
plush cobalt
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Just saying, to most it isn't

candid patio
oak gazelle
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won't be long before datacenters mysteriously start shuttering

mellow birch
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oh

mellow birch
plush cobalt
mellow birch
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AI/computer bad war

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humans win

candid patio
mellow birch
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decide not only AI bad but computer also bad

plush cobalt
oak gazelle
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frank herbert is just the quentin tarantino of scifi authors

mellow birch
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so in Dune nothing is computer

oak gazelle
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solid enough but quite overhyped

candid patio
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nothin much, hbu?

plush cobalt
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What? I'm asking you what updog is

oak gazelle
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it's a setup

candid patio
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im dying

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sdtop

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hahahaha

plush cobalt
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I'm joking lol

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I was gonna pretend to not know updog longer but I fear it would be frustrating

mellow birch
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it would’ve been funny

karmic jetty
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if datacentres werent harmful (especially environmentally) and its usage wasnt for complete dogpoo then i would prolly be more okay with them

candid patio
dense swift
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hi can some one help me with my mods?

mellow birch
plush cobalt
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karmic jetty
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ur right i also need my dose of videos where apples eat apples

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until this moment i've never tied the bad of data centers to ai

plush cobalt
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It would be nice if the focus were more on the data centers more often

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like i know that you can't have one without the other

plush cobalt
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They're seriously fucking up a lot of areas

karmic jetty
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how ai is advertised is intentionally severed from what it actually is

plush cobalt
candid patio
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but i feel like in theory... one day... you could have good ai completely free of all of the problems caused by data centers

karmic jetty
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ever notice why those ai thingies always iconized with sparkles and magic?

plush cobalt
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What zeerol said, same shit was done with “the cloud” instead of “the server where we keep your personal data”

candid patio
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but maybe "completely free" is unrealistic

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that sounds like a fantasy

karmic jetty
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they want u to think its magic and not big datacentres polluting environments

deep socket
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Even if ai was environment friendly it wouldn’t have a purpose really

rain mango
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hes so stupid❤️

karmic jetty
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freddy night five

plush cobalt
karmic jetty
candid patio
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it would literally have to be magic

rain mango
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idk

candid patio
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it would need to not need physical data centers

rain mango
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waiting for fnf: the full ass game

plush cobalt
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Curious as someone who doesn't use AI (in the sense of chat bots with an LLM in their stack and in the sense of generative AI) but sees at least some cases where people are using it for something

candid patio
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you cant just move them to a more ideal location or make them require less finite resources to operate

rain mango
deep socket
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it’s just stealing

rain mango
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generative AI is just theft but more complex

plush cobalt
candid patio
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i am 100% convinced that data centers are objectively bad and that anything that needs their existence to function is not worth the cost

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however, the ai cat is out of the bag

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and my belief won't put it back 🙁

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so since it exists... i might as well take advantage of it

plush cobalt
rain mango
karmic jetty
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bankrupt yeah sure...

oak gazelle
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the earths resources were already at capacity before this huge datacenter ai push. so now we're selling out our futures by way of limiting already precious resources for human use and making life HORRIBLE at any of the like 5000 datacenters that exist in the us alone

candid patio
oak gazelle
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it's morally reprehensible at it's best

plush cobalt
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Data centers aren't unique to AI data, they predate it & are used for regular stuff too

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that sounds worth

rain mango
plush cobalt
karmic jetty
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it is imperative that the locals residing near datacentres do not have clean woter or power bcs end users need their slop cat_shrug

rain mango
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ALL PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS BTW!

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TAXPAYERS WANT AI SLOP!

candid patio
rain mango
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TAXPAYERS HAVE ALWAYS WANTED AI SLOP!

candid patio
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i'm trying to think of an app i wouldn't press the button

oak gazelle
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we don't need ANYWHERE near as many data centers as we have, it's all built on market speculation not reality

rain mango
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TAXPAYERS HAVE NEVER WANTED ANYTHING BUT AI SLOP!

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I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND NOW, WINSTON.

candid patio
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steam...?

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would you press the button for your steam games?

plush cobalt
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I'd press it

candid patio
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oh man

plush cobalt
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I can always legally obtain the games

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Peer to peer too, doesn't rely on data centers

candid patio
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press the button to obliterate the entire present and historical concept of chess

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and data centers

plush cobalt
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I've gotten so used to saying legally obtain to refer to piracy that I didn't even register that I typed it

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That's wild

karmic jetty
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spare games can i have spare games

rain mango
candid patio
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i don't think i can do it for chess or steam

rain mango
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so let it burn

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lol

karmic jetty
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this a referens to i have no games

candid patio
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i'm gonna show you my scroll bar.

plush cobalt
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I would get rid of chess ten times over

rain mango
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discrimination pmo

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no matter who its aimed at

karmic jetty
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i played chess last night with echo

plush cobalt
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Who won

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karmic jetty
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me

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i was in the chess club

plush cobalt
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She's cracked

karmic jetty
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(but didnt play chess)

plush cobalt
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Wait what

rain mango
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IN THIS HOUSE
WE LOVE EVERYONE EQUALLY
LOVE EACH OTHER
NEVER HATE EACH OTHER BASED ON SEXUALITY, GENDER, SKIN COLOR, RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION, POLITICAL BELIEFS
MAKE FRIENDS
BE FRIENDLY
BE LOVELY

candid patio
oak gazelle
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lol

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there's always a bigger fish

candid patio
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i would hit the button for chess.com but not lichess

rain mango
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I 🫀 FRIENDS

candid patio
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and not otb chess

plush cobalt
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I don't think there's anything I wouldn't hit the button for

oak gazelle
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my unplayed titles on steam alone is like 672

plush cobalt
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If I lost everything I have on GitHub it would be very upsetting

karmic jetty
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thats alot of no games

plush cobalt
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But worth the cost

rain mango
candid patio
plush cobalt
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That's fair

oak gazelle
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it'd be checkers and epic games store

candid patio
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what do i work a job for if its not to have time for vidya

oak gazelle
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sad stuff

candid patio
karmic jetty
candid patio
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a billion dollars to turn chess into checkers... okay probably

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but its still questionable

plush cobalt
#

All it took was money to fold

candid patio
#

i need 0 dollars to play chess

plush cobalt
#

Would you do it for no more world hunger

candid patio
#

mannnnnnnnnn

karmic jetty
#

chess dot com would be better if they add battle pass and gacha

plush cobalt
candid patio
#

that's a low blow

plush cobalt
#

Oh I thought you were about to say nah lol

candid patio
#

would i starve a child for my entertainment?

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fuck man

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ummmmmmm

rain mango
# karmic jetty

a job that pays 8$ an hour and requires you to have a bachelor's degree in rocket science and trigonometry for whatever reason at the ripe old age of 16

plush cobalt
#

Please say your answer into this microphone

candid patio
#

just to clarify

oak gazelle
#

I feel like a billion dollars could develop a better game just saying

candid patio
#

if i pressed the button

rain mango
#

what button are you holly jolly fucks talking about

karmic jetty
#

gib me a billion dollars and ill double it trust

plush cobalt
candid patio
#

no human being ever from the moment i pressed the button until the last human dies would struggle with food insecurity?

rain mango
#

how about you kiss my holly jolly button without the on

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fuck you

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hoe

oak gazelle
#

we've developed the ultimate game! and it's just deep rock galactic survivor

rain mango
#

im SO pissed

plush cobalt
rain mango
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DIE

plush cobalt
#

No more world hunger forever

karmic jetty
#

holly jolly button? thats what they call me

plush cobalt
#

By foreseeable future I meant in our lifetime

candid patio
plush cobalt
#

Now I'm curious about what if that wasn't the argument

oak gazelle
#

now that's a title I wanted to play when it came out. not sure when I got it but Smalland survive the wilds is getting installed

oak gazelle
#

gonna have to put on honey i shrunk the kids for it

candid patio
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i don't care if no one knows

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and if i tell someone magnus carlsen will find me and stab a queen piece in my throat.

plush cobalt
#

That is a good thing to press the button for

oak gazelle
#

you press the button and every billionaire gets transported to the moon, do you press it

plush cobalt
#

Do they have space suits?

candid patio
oak gazelle
#

did i stutter

plush cobalt
#

I press it

oak gazelle
#

I'd build it into a chair

karmic jetty
#

chat i think i might be blocked by a person i dont even know otag

oak gazelle
#

so I can press it every time I sit down

plush cobalt
karmic jetty
#

unbelievable

candid patio
candid patio
plush cobalt
#

Maybe they saw you chat and said “ew... no thanks! erm, it's blocking time!”

candid patio
#

because pressing the button would have reprecussions

karmic jetty
candid patio
#

thousands of people in the chess industry would be out of a job

oak gazelle
#

love that middle of the night internet speed boost

candid patio
#

while it would solve food security for some people... other people will have to suffer

plush cobalt
#

Yeah wait if we're talking about the data centers one & if they all just suddenly shut down that would be pretty catastrophic

candid patio
#

so the amount of suffering inflicted has to be significantly less than the amount of suffering saved

oak gazelle
#

for about 2 days

plush cobalt
#

Medical records

candid patio
#

i'm not going to press a button if it inflicts suffering... or at least i'm not going to take that decision lightly

plush cobalt
#

I suppose non data center servers would still be up

oak gazelle
#

noble of you, several billion other humans don't have that hangup

plush cobalt
#

I think most of us press such a button on a regular basis

oak gazelle
#

suffering is inherent to the human condition but choosing to sacrifice x for y or z is always an interesting thought experiment

karmic jetty
#

what is this some kinda fear and hunger

candid patio
oak gazelle
#

like you'd rather have a Bruce Wayne pressing the button if someone has to do it you know?

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rather than say The Penguin

plush cobalt
#

Bruce Wayne? The billionaire? Uh he's on the moon now

oak gazelle
#

or Vince Vaughn

candid patio
oak gazelle
#

changes the thought experiment parameters a bit

plush cobalt
#

I don't think I'm wise or informed enough to select that panel

candid patio
#

maybe i think too highly of myself

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i feel like i don't press buttons that hurt people very often

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obviously not just button pressing

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make decisions

plush cobalt
sturdy lily
#

any of yall play hytale

plush cobalt
#

Mostly just a musing on how most of us regularly interact with things which are tied to suffering because many things are under capitalism

candid patio
#

i bought something
an ingredient that i bought in that something inflicted suffering to someone
therefore i inflicted suffering

plush cobalt
#

Yeah, essentially that. Not directly inflicting it, but contributing via consumption

oak gazelle
#

most commodities are based on exploitation somewhere along the sourcing pipeline

candid patio
oak gazelle
#

not choosing to abstain is a daily choice we make

candid patio
#

i think we can collectively agree that the coca cola company has a history of inflicting suffering to people without getting into the p word.

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i love coca cola and i drink it a lot

plush cobalt
#

Them and many others, yeah

candid patio
#

i'm trying to convince myself that me drinking coca cola causes someone else to suffer

oak gazelle
#

it's just sweet flower water but they've made it a must have for so many

candid patio
#

and i think as an individual, i don't buy enough coca cola to impact supply and demand for it

oak gazelle
#

wherever coca cola sets up shop human quality of health declines

#

we still choose it

candid patio
oak gazelle
#

I'm no less contributing to social harm of misconception of product health by drinking coke zero vs regular coke

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just putting my wellbeing on top of the pile

#

the moral call would be to just buy a sodastream and switch away from coke products

candid patio
#

"kicking the can down the road"

plush cobalt
#

If 100 people are paying Yum Yum Good Sauce company for their sauce, but Yum Yum Good Sauce also powers the orphan crushing machine I think they're all involved in the process regardless of whether it'd still be happening with 99. I also think it isn't necessarily a healthy way to look at things to consider it to be inflicting suffering, necessarily, so maybe my original statement didn't get at what I was thinking

oak gazelle
#

changing a persons shopping habits is absolutely an agent of change in capitalist society

plush cobalt
#

Moreso that we're all complicit, not necessarily pressing the button

#

I should've just said that

oak gazelle
#

coke is responsible for the damage they created and I don't share their blame for having consumed a bad product

candid patio
#

or yum yum good sauce

#

is that a real sauce?

plush cobalt
#

I don't know

#

I made it up but probably

candid patio
#

it sounds good

oak gazelle
#

lol yum yum sauce is a well known sauce

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probably forgot you knew it

plush cobalt
#

I was just about to say that after searching

#

I've never had that sauce

candid patio
#

and honestly an orphan crushing machine doesn't sound that bad

oak gazelle
#

hibachi yo

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lol

#

fresh orphan juice

candid patio
#

orphans are a drain on the economy

plush cobalt
candid patio
#

they probably don't live good lives

plush cobalt
#

Are you a supervillain or what

candid patio
#

we are saving them from abuse and suffering

#

they need to be crushed for their own good

plush cobalt
#

I'm waiting for you to say psych 😭

candid patio
#

i am just being silly

plush cobalt
#

Oh thank goodness

candid patio
#

but I could make that argument with a straight face

onyx igloo
#

i just walked in and i have a struggle believing you are being silly

plush cobalt
#

It was delivered so straightforward I thought it was a genuine take and got worried

oak gazelle
#

okay but the button question now poses that billionaires get transferred to the moon with the press, but you also send all the orphans with each press too so that kinda sucks

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wat do

candid patio
#

maybe this is too p word

onyx igloo
candid patio
#

but i support "going home" in soylent green

plush cobalt
#

Fellas is it political to put orphans in a crushing machine

candid patio
#

i might even support making crackers out of it

onyx igloo
oak gazelle
#

good people

marsh glacier
plush cobalt
candid patio
oak gazelle
#

every time I see a Huel ad I can't help but thinking of soylent green

plush cobalt
oak gazelle
#

the 1973 movie is a classic

marsh glacier
#

the option with a slightly less concentration of evil

onyx igloo
candid patio
upper rain
candid patio
#

what happens to the billionaires assets?

oak gazelle
#

that's up to those back on earth

candid patio
#

no

#

there's laws

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wills

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inheritence

oak gazelle
#

lol no billionaire has a moral wallet

#

the whole premise based off your orphans is just for silliness's sake anyway

candid patio
#

your scenario fails to present me with a benefit that would entice someone to press a button

#

oh okay you are being silly

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thank you

oak gazelle
#

orphans of course should not be sacrificed just to get rid of our evil oligarchs

plush cobalt
#

I would make an orphan press the button

lilac quarry
#

I would make the buttons out of orphans

candid patio
#

lol

oak gazelle
#

give them all oxygen tanks and make it a game show to see who makes it back to the space shuttle back to earth first

#

well not the billionaires anyway, maybe one for fun

candid patio
#

okay when you are 85 years old... you can press a button... and the button forces a billionaire to work 40 hours a week as a person who cleans septic tanks, and redistributes 100% of their assets to a charity of your choosing, and you will immediately die

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i think i would probably press the button

candid patio
#

if i felt REALLY healthy, happy, and fulfilled at 85... maybe i won't press it

severe agate
#

They just make it so they secretly own all the charities

candid patio
#

if instead the same benefit but it kills a random orphan instead of me

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honestly... maybe?

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i could help so many people with those assets

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way more than 1 orphan

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🤷‍♂️

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if i found out after i died... someone pressed a button and it helped a bunch of people... i don't think i'd be that mad about it

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i don't think most people share that thought though

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that's too big of a sacrifice for most people

oak gazelle
#

most people are preoccupied with the notion of an afterlife than benefits them instead of others

plush cobalt
#

When I die I'm going to super heaven made just for me

candid patio
#

i think i'd willingly die for the significant benefit of a hundred people

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that sounds fair

#

i have to ask my wife if she's okay with that

#

she'll probably say no

karmic jetty
#

mm chocolate noms

plush cobalt
#

I'd be willing to let someone else die for the benefit of a hundred people

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Me? Oh, heavens no!

candid patio
#

lololol

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okay because i'm married, the answeris no

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because i made a commitment to her

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but if i were single... she's the only person i'm committed to

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i would rehome my dogs first

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my family would get over it

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f them anyways

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i don't care if they are sad

#

slap that button

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alright lets talk about something lighter i think i brought hte mood down

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@karmic jetty what is your favorite brand / variety of chocolate bar?

karmic jetty
#

uhh

#

chocolate is chocolate

thin wedge
#

okay nestle eater

oak gazelle
#

toblerone is the only right answer

candid patio
#

i'm *a sucker for a gimmick for p word marketing... and it also tastes really good... but tony's chocolonely is peak

karmic jetty
#

whats p word

candid patio
#

they have a lot of buzz words about ||human rights|| on their packaging

karmic jetty
#

oh

icy vigil
karmic jetty
#

i mean

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wouldnt u like to know where ur fud came from

severe agate
#

No

candid patio
#

i absolutely like believing that my food came from a farmer who had a nice quality of life and earned a good income.

severe agate
#

I'm not interested in learning the ratios of insect parts they find tolerable enough

candid patio
#

even if what made me believe it is lies

karmic jetty
#

yommers

#

whats wrong with insects

candid patio
#

thanks for lying to me to make me feel better

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"no limbs were lost by employees at the factory where this chocolate bar was made."

oak gazelle
#

anyone ever watch that old spike network show Deadliest Warrior?

candid patio
#

if you put that on your packaging i'm gonna eat that lie up

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if its true great

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if its not... im gonna believe it is and not look into it

karmic jetty
#

i like to imagine chocolate bar was forged in a smithy

candid patio
#

by like magical elves who live in a tree for some reason?

karmic jetty
#

why did u immediately assume elves

candid patio
#

...the keebler elves????

#

just making a reference to something that already exists

plush cobalt
#

I've not seen the disclaimers described bc I don't eat chocolate like that v much, and I figure they only put it there because of the human rights concerns being talked about, but it's such a strange and somewhat funny concept to me

candid patio
#

keebler chocolate IS forged in a magical elf powered smithy.

karmic jetty
#

who the heck is keebler

#

does he have a spess program

candid patio
#

you must not be american

plush cobalt
#

Like if I read “the making of this cheese did NOT involve ANY murder” I'd probably just think it did

candid patio
#

if you are american and you don't know what the keebler elves are...

oak gazelle
#

lol

#

then they probably aren't diabetic

candid patio
#

that would be like not knowing who the pilsbury doughboy is

plush cobalt
#

Who?

karmic jetty
#

this chocolate bar was NOT forged in a smithy

candid patio
#

i'm not taking that bait

oak gazelle
#

ron mcdonald never heard of the guy

plush cobalt
#

You're telling me there's a king of burger

candid patio
#

there is a literal king. of the food. not the place.

oak gazelle
#

nothing better than some kurger bing

karmic jetty
#

american fud always have the silliest names

#

doughboy?

candid patio
#

burger is a city

karmic jetty
#

sounds tupid!!

candid patio
#

so there's a mayor of burger, the city

tall glen
#

I've been listening to pink pony club all night

candid patio
#

but a king of the food

oak gazelle
#

idk have you heard some british food names

karmic jetty
oak gazelle
#

BANGERS N MASH

#

come on

candid patio
#

I have a scale for songs

karmic jetty
#

that sounds fire

candid patio
#

from 1 to infinity

#

the number is how many times i can listen to that song and get joy from it

oak gazelle
#

jellied eels, bubble and squeak, spotted dick

candid patio
#

pink pony club is a 3.

tall glen
oak gazelle
#

toad in the hole

#

I could go on

karmic jetty
#

sounds great to me mang

#

pass me the toad in the hole bruv

candid patio
#

that is to say i like the song pink pony club

#

but after the 3rd time i heard it, i had heard it enough

oak gazelle
#

its all just slapassed naming conventions

plush cobalt
#

This is an interesting scale

karmic jetty
#

pass me doughboys caked cheeks guy

deep socket
#

Do the British even have a name for the dish of baked potato with tuna and beans

tall glen
#

a bit of spotted dick?

deep socket
#

surf and turf maybe

plush cobalt
#

I can relate to some songs being at infinity on that scale but only for a limited time

candid patio
plush cobalt
#

Sometimes that time is days, sometimes weeks

plush cobalt
#

I very often lock on to one song & have it on repeat for hours

candid patio
#

i do too

oak gazelle
#

so we all got the tism

#

got it

deep socket
#

I’d assume it’s not 500 times in a row for the preservation of sanity

tall glen
#

lol this comment

#

-When you live in a timeline where the world is burning, but GWAR is singing Pink Pony Club, so you're still ok

plush cobalt
#

I think it's a difficult choice for a scale because that varies for me so much

candid patio
#

baby blue shades by the "bad suns" is way over 500 for me

karmic jetty
#

i need to shower but its cold and raining outside

candid patio
#

also most of the songs from the disney move encanto

#

lol

oak gazelle
tall glen
karmic jetty
#

what if i just not

harsh vault
#

hi chat

oak gazelle
#

if you shower outdoors you gotta sing 'singin in the rain'

candid patio
oak gazelle
#

thems the rules

plush cobalt
candid patio
harsh vault
#

ya

candid patio
#

how likely am i to enjoy this?

#

its not a troll?

harsh vault
#

probably not your taste

oak gazelle
#

anything by Dethklok

harsh vault
deep socket
#

It’s a good song

#

good album too

oak gazelle
#

window licker supremacy

harsh vault
#

see they get it

#

i love aphex twin

plush cobalt
#

A recent on repeat song for me was “Chaleya”, from the film Jawan. The film sucked but I like the song

spring plover
#

Yo guys

harsh vault
#

drukqs best album

spring plover
#

Are there any public servers with 100 people or whay ever

oak gazelle
#

windowlicker may be my favorite music video of all time

harsh vault
candid patio
# harsh vault probably not your taste

i am 38 seconds in
I don't think i could listen to that song 500 times in a year, it is too intense to listen to it more than once a day every day for a year.

oak gazelle
#

your loss

#

half the aphex twin culture is the videos at his shows

spring plover
#

Any multilayer servers with a lot of players?

candid patio
#

it does sound like a song i would enjoy

candid patio
#

but i would need to be in the right mood for it

harsh vault
plush cobalt
deep socket
#

I don’t think I’d listen to anything 500 times on purpose and I really love music

plush cobalt
candid patio
#

but i usually don't like things with that intensity

#

i'm not an intense person

plush cobalt
#

Here in gen chat we don't play games. We only have serious conversations, and we take ourselves very seriously here

candid patio
#

i'm in an apartment actually

harsh vault
candid patio
oak gazelle
#

there's a song by a punk group called All they titled She Broke My Dick and I don't think I'll ever get tired of it

harsh vault
#

i always recommend jungle since nobody knows it and its such a vibe

harsh vault
oblique stream
#

you mean drum and base

harsh vault
#

jungle

plush cobalt
oak gazelle
#

Getting it on with bleep
I swear this really happened
I pulled my trick maneuver
That's when I heard it, snappin'!

harsh vault
#

is different

oblique stream
#

before it was invented

lilac quarry
oak gazelle
#

She broke my dick!
(Ow!) She goddamn broke my dick!

harsh vault
oblique stream
#

Ofc i do

deep socket
oak gazelle
plush cobalt
candid patio
# harsh vault no i havent

i think if you like 54 cymru beats, you might also like blood sugar by pendulum... but its very much a song that would make you want to go outside and do windsprints... or drive a car really fast... or take a bunch of cocaine and box a gorilla

lilac quarry
#

Here he goes

harsh vault
oblique stream
plush cobalt
#

I only have Normal interests

oblique stream
#

thats a jungle

plush cobalt
#

Unlike you Leon “Freak” Zomboid

harsh vault
deep socket
oblique stream
harsh vault
oak gazelle
#

Main vein shot with cortisone
An ice pack on the rest
It hurt so much but I'd do it again
Why couldn't I have just left her unsatisfied?

[Outro]
You don't mind if I leave the needle in while I prepare the cortisone, do you?

lilac quarry
#

Why name call

harsh vault
#

leon is freaky?

plush cobalt
#

It's not a name call you're just a freak

candid patio
#

and if you like blood sugar by pendulum, you will like a lot of their songs

oblique stream
#

Leon name leak

candid patio
#

i think their genre is called drum and bass?

oak gazelle
#

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

candid patio
#

i don't really know how to differentiate drum and bass from like... dubstep

lilac quarry
deep socket
plush cobalt
#

I was trying to avoid doxxing by pretending it's your surname

harsh vault
candid patio
#

dubstep is also great
and glitch music like glitch mob

plush cobalt
#

But I guess the proverbial cat is out of the proverbial bag and now public knowledge in the proverbial chat

harsh vault
deep socket
#

Drum and bass is pretty much exactly what the name entails

plush cobalt
oak gazelle
plush cobalt
#

I'm Normal

oak gazelle
#

sick show

harsh vault
candid patio
lilac quarry
#

It’s snowing heavily

candid patio
#

drive it like you stole it

lilac quarry
#

It begins

plush cobalt
# harsh vault prove

I'm employed, in a relationship, and I go outside sometimes just for the sake of going outside

harsh vault
#

i havent had snow yet

oak gazelle
candid patio
#

one of the greatest tracks of all time

harsh vault
#

you are lucky leon

#

i like snow

harsh vault
oblique stream
harsh vault
#

be nice

candid patio
#

i think i saw potentially 20 cm on the forecast

plush cobalt
oblique stream
#

be real, omar doesn't sound like employed or in relationship

#

or human

oak gazelle
harsh vault
oblique stream
#

he's an ai

karmic jetty
oblique stream
#

wake up

plush cobalt
#

Is there anything else I can help you with?

lilac quarry
candid patio
#

back to my song scale... drive it like you stole it... easily hits 10k. i could listen to that song 10 times a day for a year... many years in a row

lilac quarry
#

Bye

oak gazelle
#

grababrushandputalittlemakeup

oblique stream
plush cobalt
#

I thought the number was the amount of times in direct succession

deep socket
#

But that’s insane

plush cobalt
#

Or direct repetition, rather

plush cobalt
karmic jetty
#

only scale that matters is how many bornanas

candid patio
#

but not like torture where i hear it when i'm trying to sleep

harsh vault
#

@karmic jetty did you see my impressive tarkov break

plush cobalt
#

Yeah, I thought you meant the max for that

deep socket
candid patio
#

damn i think that scale only maxes out at like.... 90?

plush cobalt
candid patio
#

i'm just thinking of like the times i was really obsessed with a song

plush cobalt
#

I think I need to put a song length into a calculator and then come back

candid patio
#

maybe i listened to it for about 3 hours... so if its a 3 minute song... 20 plays an hour... so maybe only 60 consecutive plays

oak gazelle
#

I should figure out whats necessary for a pz server where we strive to kill zombies en masse with metal concerts bringing them out of the woodwork on an elevated platform in an arena where the zombies get funneled into kill zones

deep socket
#

sounds fitting

plush cobalt
#

Okay, a song of 3:20 length listened to on repeat for 5 hours is 90 listens. I have definitely exceeded this number on multiple occasions

oak gazelle
#

daft punk always did that to me, whenever a new album dropped eventually one of the tracks would need to be played on loop for a few days

#

ugh reminds me I need to migrate my music and audiobooks to plex next

thin wedge
#

daft punk vs the elephant foot

plush cobalt
#

It's happened to me for various artists, just a song that tickles my brain the right way for a while

#

Combine that with an entire day spent focusing on notes or programming & that's easily 100 listens

upper rain
#

aaaaaa

oak gazelle
#

time to make something for dinner

candid patio
#

i think i could do a 100 listens in a day

#

but not consecutive

#

i'd pepper in some other songs that tickled my brain a similar way

#

but the buzz from their tickle was starting to wear off

#

like the "tom's diner" cover from annenmaykantereit

#

something about the way that guy shout sings