general_chat

[glass sigil]

"Charlie we know this dna is not created"

[graceful dust]

bra

[stone meadow]

My point is having a surgical mask is SOMETHING

[graceful dust]

we're running out of vowels here

[stone meadow]

yes you could do better

[graceful dust]

u should do better

[stone meadow]

if we all had hazmats itd be ideal

[charred lion]

ai slop

[glass sigil]

Surgical masks are more designed to capture the droplets you produce

[twin bear]

Ur ai slop bro

Trust

[stone meadow]

but simply having a surgical mask AT LEAST is already better than just doing nothing

[fair yacht]

infection protection

[charred lion]

woah luckily 100% of the population can afford and source hazmat suits!! there is zero need for surgical masks because every single person alive has unlimited access to better equipment!!

[graceful dust]

see this is the issue tho u dont have to go that far. u dont have to go MUCH farther than a surgical either to get to a lvl of protection with a mask where the dif btwn it & a hazmat is negligible

[stone meadow]

of course having a full seal is better

[stone meadow]

during the peak of the pandemic we had a shortage of even surgical masks

[graceful dust]

but ppl go doomerism when u say theres masks that r way better than surgicals lol

[stone meadow]

its about access

yes there are better options

[graceful dust]

...? im talking abt now

[twin bear]

I can buy a suit if i have the money

[graceful dust]

like right now

[twin bear]

Idk abt ur regions

[stone meadow]

does that mean anything lesser is worthless? no

[twin bear]

Main gatekeeping here is that sweet sweet cash

[glass sigil]

Respiratory illnesses such as covid and the flu are spread via droplets both airborne and surface born, of course a 100% seal will be the most ideal but its just not possible. You should practice good hand hygiene. Surgical masks as you reference are more to catch the droplets YOU produce to help stop them getting into the air and environment.

[graceful dust]

if someone cant access then like thats a problem theyll have to work out or i can help them work it out if they live near me

[twin bear]

I would love to have an nbc suit

[graceful dust]

why are u threatening me sm

thats weird

[stone meadow]

most of the world doesnt live near you

[charred lion]

hi welcome to the pz server

[graceful dust]

ok? i just acknowledged that?

omfg

[stone meadow]

Even being able to buy surgical masks is a privilege

[twin bear]

Dam

That must suck

[graceful dust]

ppl going apeshit when u say "a mask with a seal mitigates respiratory illness"

[fair yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-anime-girl-my-deer-friend-nokotan-nokotan-gif-12769454977637694232

[glass sigil]

What is even going on

[stone meadow]

No? who disagreed

[twin bear]

What a cute-

My god

[fair yacht]

wot

[graceful dust]

ok? but my recommendation is still my recommendation? if u can get better than a surgical mask u should. like why is that getting u so bad

[glass sigil]

What is even the argument you two are putting forward. What are you disagreeing on? @graceful dust @stone meadow

[fair yacht]

i still need to finish watching Nokotan

[stone meadow]

thats not what you said originally

[graceful dust]

im not even saying disagree im just saying y'all r losing ur shit at me

[twin bear]

Where can i get one of those suits

[stone meadow]

We dont disagree generally no

[glass sigil]

Im just lost

[charred lion]

dr ass says surgical masks offer no protection at all against air transmitted illnesses

[stone meadow]

I said that even having a surgical mask as a baseline is something

[glass sigil]

Thats just objectively wrong

(In reference to dr ass)

[graceful dust]

i said get a fit-tested mask bc the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible & the science backs me up on this. like do whatever the best thing u CAN do is but im mostly seeing ppl who CAN access better masks refuse to cos why not, a surgical does SOMETHING

[tender igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/look-fabolous-the-young-og-project-gaze-stare-gif-17345947

[stone meadow]

Yeah I disagree with that

[twin bear]

Just drive

[graceful dust]

then u diagree w scientific research

[stone meadow]

having a surgical mask on is not negligible

[graceful dust]

im sure it feels good emotionally but i think being complacent is also an issue

[stone meadow]

Its about what you spread, not what you recieve

[graceful dust]

its abt both

if u receive something u spread it

[glass sigil]

Fit tested masks are just not accessible for most of the population. I am probably the only person on my house that has been fit tested for a mask

[fair yacht]

MAN 300 Meters RIGHT UP AHEAD!

[graceful dust]

first u have to not get sick to not spread sickness

[stone meadow]

But do you fr believe that someone with no mask at all and someone who has a surgical one on have a negligible difference between them?

[twin bear]

precaution is why I don't mind masks, just understand they don't prevent transmission entirely and ofc nobody thinks that here

Hopefully

[stone meadow]

One sneezes and coughs and spreads droplets everywhere

[candid patio]

Me: what do I want for dinner?
My wife: mmm *** B a b i e s ***

[graceful dust]

i mean... yes, when it comes to respiratory illness, this is scientifically the case

[stone meadow]

The other gets that blocked

[twin bear]

Arma is one of my favorite games

[fair yacht]

[twin bear]

The bohemia jank is amazing

[fair yacht]

all of my hours in Arma is just Antistasi

[twin bear]

I'd love to play arma 3 again

[glass sigil]

Id like to just sort of throw in the point that

If you are not exposed to these conditions then you will not develop nautral immunity to them, that is when you become immnosupressed and vulnerable to worsening illness.

[twin bear]

I might waste my money on an multiplayer game that nobody will play tho

[graceful dust]

a good one filters out an absurd amnt of particles & the more particles u get the more likely u are to get sick. so its deffo better than ppl give it credit for but yea ive gotten sick wearing one before

[twin bear]

I like the way respirators look

The fancy ones

[graceful dust]

didnt realize george carlin was a scientist now?

[fair yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/link-start-sao-gif-24757565

[twin bear]

Bruh imagine it's a style choice down the road in certain areas because there's too much smog

[stone meadow]

The point of a surgical mask isnt immunity its a reduction

[twin bear]

"What mask u wearing today bro"

[tender igloo]

my skin

[stone meadow]

Scientifically, having less saliva on you helps to not be infected

[glass sigil]

When on earth was a claiming to be a scientist

[graceful dust]

fwiw immune systems are a resourced that get used over time ppl literally got "the immune system is a muscle u have to exercise" from a comedian

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/skinsuit-disguise-mask-unmask-rubber-gif-23369300

[graceful dust]

MITIGATION

[stone meadow]

Spit is larger than surgical mask standard for particle size

[graceful dust]

yes but most of the particles that cause respiratory illness r smaller

[glass sigil]

Frogski never claimed that surgical masks offer immunity

[graceful dust]

like, the vast majority of them will go with airflow thru the path of least resistance. openings in the sides of the mask

[stone meadow]

Again its about reduction in cases not immunity, claiming that having no mask on and having a surgical mask on being the same is just wrong

Hell even cloth masks have been shown to provide some level of protection

[charred lion]

can you source that science then

[graceful dust]

trying to find shit thats not blocked rn

[stone meadow]

blocked? what

[charred lion]

because i can source you science that says otherwise

[graceful dust]

paywalled

i couldnt remember the word lol

[twin bear]

Any .org should be free no? If it's public

[stone meadow]

yes

[mellow birch]

search on scihub

[glass sigil]

It is not as effective as some people may think. But its not ineffective so to speak

[charred lion]

yeah if its paywalled then it sounds like a private newspaper/magazine

and not a scientific journal

[glass sigil]

Unmasking the mask studies: why the effectiveness of surgical masks in preventing respiratory infections has been underestimated - PMC https://share.google/VpMsjpOj9BLQ545zX

Jesus.

[twin bear]

Pmc

[charred lion]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8499874/

there's the proper link

[graceful dust]

ive noticed some of it is like linked back to actual journals & then paywalled but it takes me a mini to find the source usually

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/airsoft-fake-gun-eft-escape-from-tarkov-usec-gif-4508249238056947743

[glass sigil]

Cheers pek

[stone meadow]

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

https://www.phc.ox.ac.uk/news/comprehensive-review-confirms-masks-reduce-covid-19-transmission

[burnt kite]

peenas

[charred lion]

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02786826.2023.2267689
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8491963/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8499874/

[graceful dust]

are y'all reading the articles ur linking

[charred lion]

yes

[burnt kite]

https://tenor.com/view/3d-drip-among-us-gif-22876663

[stone meadow]

Are any of them saying that masks dont reduce the rate at all?

[glass sigil]

"Masks, including cloth face coverings and disposable medical masks, help reduce the spread of respiratory droplets and aerosols. Respirators, such as N95 and FFP2 devices, are designed to filter out smaller airborne particles and fit more tightly to the face, providing a higher level of protection."

[heavy ivy]

from the abstract of replied article

[graceful dust]

is that what i said orrrr

[twin bear]

Amung the drip

[glass sigil]

So, that article agrees @graceful dust that they offer some protection. But not as good as N95 and FFP2 masks.

[charred lion]

yes, "the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible"

[glass sigil]

Which nobody has disagreed with you with.

[stone meadow]

Well what is the implication of asking "are y'all reading the articles ur linking"

because my point was always that it has some effect

[graceful dust]

none of these r comparing surgicals to respirators & rn im reading thru the only one that seems to account for the social aspect that even surgical mask-wearers avoid infection in other ways

[stone meadow]

which is not negligible

[glass sigil]

Herehere

FFP2 masks are fit-tested.

[graceful dust]

doesnt know what negligible means

[mellow birch]

I love it when people make a categorical scientific claim then backpedal into having not made it after being proven wrong

[tender igloo]

the debate of masks

[charred lion]

in the context of "the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible", respirators are irrelevant

[graceful dust]

also didnt read the last msg i sent where i said it didnt account for other mitigation factors which ppl tend tot ake when masking & tend to not take when theyre not masking

[stone meadow]

which is wrong

[burnt kite]

backpedal into deez nutz

[glass sigil]

Unfortunately this cannot be a debate if a person is unwilling to hear or work with the person they're debating with.

[graceful dust]

im still making the claim that its negligible but its based in the actual function of these masks & not the social phenomenon of wearing masks

[mellow birch]

I don't do cbt sorry

[stone meadow]

Its not "so small it isnt worth considering"

[neat moat]

medical masks help a lot at reducing the spread of illness, however iirc it isnt as effective at protecting you. It's for others safety moslty

[stone meadow]

What was studied is their actual effect

[burnt kite]

and you know what else is so small it isnt worth considering

[neat moat]

but I could be wrong, either way theyre litteraly better than nothing

[stone meadow]

thats still helping contain the spread

[mellow birch]

what are you even saying?

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/сталкер-меми-stalker-monolit-gif-9085978520748571329

[graceful dust]

then ur just moving the goalposts when u find out that theres a different angle from which ur claim can technically be true

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/hazmat-suit-black-gunk-gas-mask-fat-gif-3932711660381416473

wrong

[stone meadow]

They said there is basically no point

[neat moat]

Ive seen him before

[tender igloo]

i love those lol

[rain mango]

Does this game even end wtf

[twin bear]

That's real protection

[graceful dust]

& again crashing out cos someone said "wear sealing respirators" instead

[rain mango]

Silksong is massive

[mellow birch]

that the only reason masks are effective is because there is a social phenomenon?

[stone meadow]

again, check what you said

[rain mango]

Gimpers

[stone meadow]

My problem was never that we should wear something better

[thin wedge]

okay puppers the professional hotdog eater mask

[twin bear]

Nah bro it's tactical hazmat

Trust

[stone meadow]

its claiming that surgical masks are pointless

[graceful dust]

hard to cos ur typing shit up abt me being wrong so fast & linking me 4 dif articles i know u werent reading

[charred lion]

"the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible"

[glass sigil]

But youre still yet to make reference to anything that claims they're negligible if anything the studies you've give have said that surgical masks are still effective, just not as effective as the fit-tested masks you reference.

[tender igloo]

the true asmr experience

[stone meadow]

That wasnt even me? That was @glass sigil

[neat moat]

surgical masks are tupid. Surgeons are tupid for wearing them

[graceful dust]

calling me "it" is an interesting choice

[stone meadow]

wait no

sorry

[rain mango]

Toopeed! 😠

[graceful dust]

lol

[stone meadow]

that was @charred lion

[half kettle]

why dont you wear a welders mask for surgeries

its a sheet of metal!

[charred lion]

and gio but i have read the articles i sent

[neat moat]

Show your mouth shut

[rain mango]

Guys silksong has no ending

[neat moat]

smort

[rain mango]

I got to act 2 without killing the act final boss

[glass sigil]

I did read and reference my articles?

[half kettle]

lair

[glass sigil]

What is even going on

[neat moat]

silk song doesnt end in gay kiss?

[graceful dust]

i didnt say they were pointless i explicitly said they protect against spit, but spit isnt the primary transmission vector for respiratory illness its smaller particles that flow thru the air. surgicals dont protect against those. ive been rly specific abt this

[mellow birch]

I want to ping Mr. Ass and set him loose on the so-called doctor Ass impersonating him

[stone meadow]

can you not deflect to a cherry picked sentence? What i said was "My problem was never that we should wear something better. its claiming that surgical masks are pointless"

[rain mango]

The spiders are all lesbians and cant have kids

[neat moat]

they can

they can adopt

dont be a hater

[stone meadow]

It was split into 2 messages

[charred lion]

"the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible" i dont see any spit here

[twin bear]

Adopt what

[glass sigil]

Did you or did you not claim that surgical masks offer "negligible " protection?

[graceful dust]

uve been doing that with everything ive been saying i should get to point out how low ur going to personally disrespect me

[rain mango]

A positive mind set

[neat moat]

grubs

[stone meadow]

and what does negligible mean?

[charred lion]

exactly

[rain mango]

I love negligges

[twin bear]

Adopt an icbm

[mellow birch]

you said their effectiveness in reducing transmission is negligible, just admit you either were wrong or worded something poorly

[half kettle]

adopt your mental well being

[rain mango]

Ibs is no joke

[mellow birch]

that's not a precise and specific statement about spit transmission lol

[charred lion]

intercontinental bowel syndrome

[neat moat]

adopt a more positive worldview how about that 🧐

[charred lion]

icbs

[glass sigil]

Fr that messes my tummy up man

[graceful dust]

i said their effectiveness vs a respirator is negligible

[heavy ivy]

even then partial protection is still better than no protection
respiratory droplets are a contagion source for covid-19, and wearing a surgical mask will reduce your risk to spread those or receive them from someone else
i need to go eat now stay safe all

[half kettle]

inttercontinentalbalssiticslober

[stone meadow]

Thats really just funny, how instead of defending your point you delfect to something i suppodedly did

[twin bear]

I have a very positive view

I'm very positive and nice

[graceful dust]

its funny that u referred to me as "it"?

[charred lion]

but you also said their effectiveness on respiratory illness is negligible

[glass sigil]

I think you all need to agree to disagree at this point. Its sorta going a bit far

[graceful dust]

bc when it comes to the particles that primarily cause illness they are

[neat moat]

minor disagreement in dgen

[charred lion]

i believe when frogski said "it" he meant "the problem"

[glass sigil]

Mum and dad are fighting again

[graceful dust]

oh yea i did that cos i thought it was more stupid that u claimed i said it was pointless

when i explicitly said otherwise lol

[mellow birch]

unless you identify as "the problem"

[charred lion]

"my problem is claiming that surgical masks are pointless"

[tender igloo]

me eating popcorn watching lol

[mellow birch]

idk

[stone meadow]

Its not my fault you took offence to something that i never did

[charred lion]

https://tenor.com/view/the-smurfs-smurfberries-greedy-smurf-picking-berries-berry-plant-gif-19868818

||cherry picking||

[glass sigil]

Who's got the popcorn

[graceful dust]

alright i get that u didnt mean it lol, i didnt connect those 2 msgs

[uncut epoch]

discord drama

[rain mango]

Theyre coming for frogs gig

[charred lion]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-drama-discorddrama-gif-22395692

[mellow birch]

heheheha

[glass sigil]

All over the effectiveness of masks

[graceful dust]

this is like fairly typical when u tell someone they should upgrade their mask ngl

ppl crash tf out

[twin bear]

I'm just chillin finna get a rim going

[glass sigil]

Thats not even what the disagreement was on mate

[graceful dust]

yes it is

[glass sigil]

Ok

[stone meadow]

no it is not

[tender igloo]

lol

[charred lion]

we're not crashing out over that, we're crashing out over "the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible"

[tender igloo]

round two here we go

[rain mango]

In the words of hornet: "get good"

[stone meadow]

THIS

[glass sigil]

LMAO

[graceful dust]

when u compare to the effectiveness of respirators <- this is what i said

[graceful dust]

y'all r mad that respirators r better

[glass sigil]

WHAT

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[graceful dust]

look at the parts u didnt circle

[charred lion]

how illiterate do you have to be

[stone meadow]

NOONE ARGUED OTHERWISE

[graceful dust]

look at every other word in that msg that u didnt circle

[stone meadow]

YES A BETTER RESPIRATOR IS BETTER

[glass sigil]

Insane claims are being made in this chat

[charred lion]

we do NOT care about the better respirators because we know they are better it's in the NAME

[glass sigil]

This man is standing his ground on a chocolate teapot

[stone meadow]

The point is that wearing a surgical mask isnt NEGLIGiBLE

[twin bear]

Why can't everyone just have a hivemind

[graceful dust]

"this is what u ACTUALLY said" *points at thing i just said i said* "u clearly said [thing i said nowhere in the msg]"

[stone meadow]

oh my god

[graceful dust]

i feel like im hallucinating

[tender igloo]

lopl

[glass sigil]

This is just

[graceful dust]

u gotta undertsand that like

[glass sigil]

Spectacular

[rain mango]

Why is everybody scaping from tarkov? Who is tarkov why are they hunting people

[graceful dust]

i am getting dozens of pings per minute

& trying to keep up w that while y'all only have my msgs to get mad abt

[quasi slate]

why does the polish news reporter look like michael jackson

[uncut epoch]

[stone meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-skinner-out-of-touch-the-kids-the-children-who-are-wrong-gif-17668586656047785104

[half kettle]

@graceful dust

[polar kernel]

why taunt me

[tender igloo]

am i out of time

[quasi slate]

you didnt buy the femboy skin?

[charred lion]

pov @graceful dust
pek says i claimed that "the effect of surgical masks on respiratory illness is negligible"
pek provides photo evidence of me saying this
why is pek making stuff up?

[stone meadow]

Clearly everyone is arguing otherwise because everyone is wrong

[rain mango]

Im still processing the gimpers episode

[graceful dust]

compared to not wearing a mask the social impact of wearing a surgical is better. compared to wearing a fitting respirator it is negligible

[tender igloo]

what lol

[rain mango]

Why do you love it 😭

[heavy ivy]

do you understand mechanical hands are the ruler of everything

[stone meadow]

what does "the social impact" even mean

[graceful dust]

u sourced a comedian for how the immune system works idk why ur even still in this convo

[tender igloo]

im not talking about this here lmao

[rain mango]

ok

[charred lion]

what

[tender igloo]

theyre like little worms

[rain mango]

Theyre like hornet

[glass sigil]

Like straight up though, do you not think everyone is arguing the opposite because what you said is not true?

Everyone's argument is regarding the statement that you said that surgical masks effectiveness is negligible.

Youre being hostile to people and unwilling to change your mind or perhaps admit that you made a mistake in your statement

@graceful dust

[graceful dust]

when someone wears a mask theyll feel more socially conscious abt the spread of illness & take other precautions like avoiding outings while sick/with sick ppl or selecting venues for ventilation

[rain mango]

Daughter of a worm and a spider

[glass sigil]

Nobody is out here to get you

[charred lion]

link your source of me sourcing that buddy

go on

[tender igloo]

but ants cant lift more than their body weight

[rain mango]

Surgical masks arent ment to protect you

[stone meadow]

so you think the only reason a surgical mask helps lower spread is because of the social impact?

[glass sigil]

But bees can, they technically should not be able to fly

[charred lion]

show me the exact message where i sourced a comedian for how the immune system works

[graceful dust]

bc "the effect is negligible" was part of a whole ass sentence & ppl r claiming i MEANT something that i clearly didnt if u read literally anything im saying

[rain mango]

Surgical maskd are meant to protect other people from your coughs

[charred lion]

keep this in mind

[tender igloo]

i wore a mask on a 10 hour flight for sickness but mainly cause i get nosebleeds lol

[rain mango]

Toopeed chat

[uncut epoch]

”…according to the laws of aviation…”

🐝

[graceful dust]

honestly mostly yea

[heavy ivy]

i fly by power of a precise mix of rocket fuel and oxidizer

[rain mango]

I will repeat this tonight

[charred lion]

you're clearly lying purely to spite dr ass!!!!! you were hired by the moderation team to disagree with him!!!!

[stone meadow]

yeah you see that is the issue

[glass sigil]

Would you like to clarify your statement and argument?

[graceful dust]

when u were talking abt natural immunity. im being pinged 1000x again so im not searching it up

[stone meadow]

You still havent even backed up your claim

[rain mango]

Surgical masks protect other people from your coughs@graceful dust

[stone meadow]

Are surgeons wearing masks for fun? for the social impact?

[graceful dust]

i got covid while wearing a n95 hit shappens its never 100%

[rain mango]

The impact is protecting other people

[stone meadow]

exactly

[stone meadow]

you cant be infected if someone doeent infect you

[rain mango]

Because the mask is for ther people not your protection

Toopid

[glass sigil]

My source is the bee movie

[tender igloo]

dont be mean!!

[charred lion]

find it for me because iirc i was taking a shit when you say i said it

[rain mango]

[thin wedge]

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lol-xd-gif-6972117878448025061

[graceful dust]

i feel like ur trying too hard to disagree tbh

[thin wedge]

puppers pls i was wearing leather gear

[graceful dust]

they protect ppl from the droplets in coughs, but not the particles that cause respiratory illness

[thin wedge]

why still bite wound

[stone meadow]

what a bulletproof argument

"youre just trying hard to disagree therefore youre wrong"

[graceful dust]

if u seal a surgical iirc it makes them rly rly effective but most ppl dont do that cos why go thru the effort to seal a surgical when u can get a mask thats alrdy made to seal? usually the latter is the more economical option

[charred lion]

i'll wait until you do find it seeing as i didnt say it lol

[twin bear]

I feel like I'm gonna explode

Amazing stromboli

[glass sigil]

We are just going on circles now

[stone meadow]

AGAIN THATS NOT THE POINT

[graceful dust]

i mean like we dont disagree that respirators r better but when i say how much better they r suddenly theres an issue

[glass sigil]

You're obviously not listening to what anyone has to say here

[stone meadow]

Yes wearing a full face seal suit is better

[graceful dust]

no?

[rain mango]

Do you think the virus/bacteria survives in the air or in the droplets

[glass sigil]

You've been told that's not the point any 5 times now

[burnt kite]

hey dudeman

[rain mango]

Real question

[graceful dust]

face seal like it just closes around ur mouth, no gaps

[charred lion]

once again, the issue is NOT with respirators at all

[stone meadow]

But also wearing something that stops you spitting, coughing, sneezing is better than not wearing it

[rain mango]

Fax

[graceful dust]

bacteria is different, infectious virus particles can stay in the air for several hours iirc. thats how most ppl get respiratory illness, viral particles exiting infectious ppls lungs r the primary transmission vector

[stone meadow]

what you said was that there is next to no point wearing surgical masks

[charred lion]

"the respirators are not the issue"
"i cant believe they keep having issues with the respirators!!!!!!"

[stone meadow]

outside of "social" impact whatever that is

[glass sigil]

Okay to clarify

YES A 100% SEAL WOULD STOP ANYRHING GETTING IN DUE TO IT BEING A 100% SEAL.

YES RESPIRATORS ARE BETTER THEN SURGICAL MASKS.

THAT IS NOT PEOPLES ARGUMENTS. PEOPLE ARE DISAGREEING WHEN YOU SAID THAT SURGICAL MASKS ARE INEFFECTIVE

I rest my case

[charred lion]

yes WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE RESPIRATORS WE KNOW THEY ARE BETTER

[graceful dust]

then ur just moving the goalposts idk what to tell u. do u wanna talk abt social phenomenon? stop trying to conflate the two & maybe we can get to that

[graceful dust]

thats not how this works either

[rain mango]

Are you by chance selling respirators

[glass sigil]

What

[stone meadow]

WE are moving the goalposts

[charred lion]

what the fuck are you talking about now

[stone meadow]

my god

[graceful dust]

no i know ppl who give them away for free

but im not doxxing myself like that

[glass sigil]

I actively feel my braincells melting away

[burnt kite]

just get a gas mask and stop yapping

[glass sigil]

Im surprised I had many in the first place

[charred lion]

dr ass is this your first time arguing with someone other than your reflection

[rain mango]

Im gonna go play more silksonh

Song

Just got a grapple hook

Im spiderwormman

[stone meadow]

the saying goes, never argue with an idiot, theyll drag you down to their level and beat you down with experience

[glass sigil]

What do you think people are disagreeing with you about

[graceful dust]

u just all-capsed said shit that isnt true & i never said lol. 100% seal means that everything gets filtered thru the respirator, then its up to the material in the respirator to deal w the particles

[charred lion]

arguing with a genius is difficult, but arguing with an idiot is impossible

[onyx igloo]

chat i have more info on my problem with the lines at the bottom of my monitor

[graceful dust]

its cool that im an idiot now for knowing the basics of how the immune system & respiratory infection works

[stone meadow]

ok id rather do this

[graceful dust]

ad hominem etc etc

[charred lion]

real i was gonna say the same

[twin bear]

Tf u mean lines

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-сталкер-противогаз-gasmask-yandex-gif-16124882099808117843

[onyx igloo]

it appears to get worse evertime i put my computer to sleep, turn off the monitor etc

[charred lion]

speaking of immune system can you find where i sourced a comedian

go on

i have all day

[stone meadow]

I think thats a dying monitor

[onyx igloo]

like this

[burnt kite]

the message where you gave me your dad's number

[stone meadow]

just leave it, not like youll get through

[onyx igloo]

i replaced the hdmi and it got better temporarily

if that helps any

[charred lion]

smh fine

[charred lion]

i havent sent that one yet

yet

yet

[burnt kite]

yet

[charred lion]

heeheeheehaw

[stone meadow]

Usually lines are a telltale sign of hardware degradation

[tender igloo]

is it a laptop?

[onyx igloo]

no

[tender igloo]

LIAR

[glass sigil]

Can you please confirm that this is a message you sent claiming that surgical masks are ineffective

[onyx igloo]

its a monitor and computer

[glass sigil]

Actually you know what youre right

[stone meadow]

bruh just leave it why bother

[glass sigil]

It shall be left

[tender igloo]

is it a old computer?

[glass sigil]

Ueah didnt read that was busy scrolling up before I quoted it

[stone meadow]

at least if you gotta replace irs not gonna be hard

[graceful dust]

got u mixed up w someone else while i was being pinged a bunch. ur the weirdo who made violent threats against me for some fucking reason

[onyx igloo]

couple years

[glass sigil]

At least you dont own an alienware computer

[graceful dust]

ineffective at what tho?

[charred lion]

welcome to the pz server we threaten each other for fun all the time

its pretty cool

[graceful dust]

oh shit should i not have reported u for saying u were going to kill me then

[glass sigil]

Mate give over

[graceful dust]

sry i didnt know we were cool like that

[tender igloo]

lmao they were good before dell owned them

although i think theyre still ok arent they?

[graceful dust]

naw like y'all are actually unhinged where have i ever given the OK to make jokes abt killing me

[onyx igloo]

but since i replaced the hdmi cable and it got temporarily better could it maybe be a connecting port?

[thin wedge]

dell moment

[charred lion]

first day in discordia 🥀

[thin wedge]

good for enterprise bad for gaming

[twin bear]

Dam is it burned in

[glass sigil]

Theyre not bad computers I guess, just overpriced and completely unrepairable

[onyx igloo]

no

again i replaced the cable and it temporarily went away

[charred lion]

https://tenor.com/view/solunary-neveah-discordia-discordian-discord-gif-27558502

[onyx igloo]

slowly coming back however

[twin bear]

Ur screen may be tweakin

[glass sigil]

Making threats is not okay. I hope you get the outcome for the report it deserves

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/discordian-discordia-discord-drama-yakuza-gif-8840380755664295327

[onyx igloo]

tech support by the new guy who hasnt been trained yet:

[glass sigil]

Anyway, lets go back to talking abojt a game that has been in early access since 2013

[charred lion]

💔

[twin bear]

Fr

[charred lion]

its discord its never that serious

[twin bear]

I hate pz

[graceful dust]

if we were friends u could kill me but clearly we arent friends

[glass sigil]

I hate it too. Yet somehow, I really enjoy it

[thin wedge]

#pz_b42_chat

🥀

[glass sigil]

Bruh

[thin wedge]

would you rather get ghosted instead

like starbound

[graceful dust]

i could make a joke abt another gamebut the only one i can thinkof is so cursed

[glass sigil]

Was trying to steer the conversation and got hit with that

[thin wedge]

or battlebit

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-heheheha-gif-1227201251014243577

[glass sigil]

Anyway, ciao fellas

[thin wedge]

🥀

[thin wedge]

goes hard tho

[tender igloo]

Can we ban the flower

[uncut epoch]

[thin wedge]

pupper traumatized by the emotr

[tender igloo]

Lol

[half kettle]

etst

[tender igloo]

Its like a plague!! Invasive species

[half kettle]

hey why cant reactions go over 5

[stone meadow]

man dell is just awful

[uncut epoch]

1984

[stone meadow]

I had a dell laptop for work, and it sucked

[glass sigil]

I've been dragged back

[stone meadow]

it was an alienware too

a 3060 with a strong intel cpu

[glass sigil]

Was beginning the late night tiktok doom scroll

I had a hp pavilion

[stone meadow]

Sorry to interrupt such important stuff

[graceful dust]

god bless the optiplex tho

[charred lion]

probably got blocked

for whatever reason

[stone meadow]

the last work laptop

I wonder how long thinkpads will be good for

[charred lion]

if u try to react to the message of someone who has you blocked, it'll revert your reaction and cause screenshake

[glass sigil]

Curry's was a land of fantasy for me as a kid

[graceful dust]

i like that umm i could get a decent server pc for the exact specs iwanted for like $100 that was sick

[charred lion]

@half kettle

[half kettle]

oa

ok

[graceful dust]

puppers dont block me i just wanted to see if reacting would work 💔

[stone meadow]

Even thinkpads i had to look deep into

[paper hull]

https://tenor.com/by0mG.gif

[charred lion]

i've interacted with puppers like ONCE on this account and im already blocked

[stone meadow]

Puppers keeps her feed clean

[glass sigil]

Although I have a memory, I went out with my dad to buy my first car. I only had about £2000. Choose a really crappy old car. Afterwards my dad asked me to take him to curry's and he brought a 4.5k tv and asked me to drive it home in the car I just struggled to buy

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/contemplating-thinking-gif-17339853886032698653

the thinkerpad

[charred lion]

the message wasnt even unclean 💔

[stone meadow]

@tender igloo 😛 blehh

[charred lion]

and i think i got blocked on my main without even interacting

[half kettle]

aw man what did i do to get blocked :(

[stone meadow]

pulpers blocks annoying people so you prolly did something

i trust her judgement

[glass sigil]

My deep story got buried in gifs 😵

[twin bear]

Imagine 99% of chat being blocked

Talk abt isolating

[charred lion]

yeah thats the pov im imagining

[graceful dust]

🙊 if i say anything

[glass sigil]

Introvert final boss

[stone meadow]

what fucking tv costs 4.5

your dad got ripped off

[charred lion]

a £4500 tv i'd assume

[glass sigil]

Nah mate..that tv was incredible

[stone meadow]

bro a full on theatre doesnt cost that much

[graceful dust]

like 20 yrs agoit wouldve

[half kettle]

dude a theater screen costs a lot

[twin bear]

Like 1g

[glass sigil]

Fucking huge, oled was gorgeous

[paper hull]

depends on the year

[stone meadow]

what year was this then

[twin bear]

During a huge sale bro u can get some rly good deals

[charred lion]

it probably comes with an integrated AI assistant 🤓

[glass sigil]

2020

[thin wedge]

you should copy her list

[half kettle]

have you guys seen those ai pendant

[stone meadow]

yeah no way

[paper hull]

i remember paying like $299 for a dvd player on release that shit ws death

[thin wedge]

all 3000 ppl

[charred lion]

because everything needs ai nowadays for some unknown reason

[quasi slate]

those tvs go up for like 8k euro

[thin wedge]

maybe 10k

[stone meadow]

4.5k british in 2020

[charred lion]

no and no ty

[glass sigil]

Yes

[quasi slate]

the one in my room was 3k

[charred lion]

those tvs should get refurbished to get rid of the AI

[stone meadow]

you are all terrible at buying stuff

[heavy ivy]

→ looks inside
→ chatgpt wrapper with prepaid uses

[graceful dust]

for all the shit i used to give macbooks my roommates macbook is now the only portable device that can run my machine cutter without shitting itself to death 💔 wouldnt be a problem if the company made their software for linuxtho

[glass sigil]

Surprised pikachu face

[charred lion]

not me i spend all my money on gambling credit

[quasi slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1376852041904816188/1424137608270839879/cheeks.gif?ex=68e2db01&is=68e18981&hm=5f1d9b40710e52c3e6398bdac995ce5afd4e89ee0b11d6ff93b02d561e62289d&

[twin bear]

I knew this when i shopped at walmart and sams club

[quasi slate]

Ai yummers

[paper hull]

uhh ill have you know my collection of card games and beyblades and tabletop is defiantly very worth it!1

[charred lion]

glorified prompt generator

[stone meadow]

bro gambling makes more sense than 4.5k on a tv

[charred lion]

yeah thats what i do

[glass sigil]

I mean, you havent seen this tv

[paper hull]

if ur so good at gambling get me a kidney

[quasi slate]

dont shame tv enthusiasts they are no different from people spending like 5k on a desktop pc

[thin wedge]

ypu get a kidney stone

[glass sigil]

They do say most gamblers give up before their big win

[heavy ivy]

i want to beat the shit out of whoever originally coined these prediction engines as AI its ruined the definition forever

[quasi slate]

just get a console bru

[paper hull]

runner up prize

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/crystals-gems-stones-pretty-gif-12371955

[paper hull]

ill take it

[stone meadow]

This tv better [insert innapropriate comments here] for 4.5k

[graceful dust]

if i had 4.5k i would get a laser cutter, an air pressure chamber, uhhh a uv printer that home one thats not out yet yk, 4.5k is a lot of money

[charred lion]

ikr i told someone my game was gonna have AI and they called me a vibe coder and a sloplover

[glass sigil]

It is indeed alot of money

[stone meadow]

In 2020 i could get an 8k monitor at 144hz for 1k

[graceful dust]

REAL

[glass sigil]

However, the tv was really cool and it made my dad happy so a purchase worth it imo

[paper hull]

i think thats pretty rad

good for him

[graceful dust]

when ppl say a game from like 2006 has great ai & ppl get mad.... u dont seriously believe we had chatgpt in 2006 right?!

[paper hull]

yeah idk sure maybe

[heavy ivy]

im so sorry for your loss :c
bee discovered the 'vibe coder' terminology when someone got pissed at it because it said it was 'vibe coding' today, as in, locked in and enjoying the REGULAR NON LLM development progress

[uncut epoch]

LLMs will never be true AI… i mean the computing power alone needed for anything close to ai sentience would need an entire dyson sphere💀

[charred lion]

obviously smh

[twin bear]

All ai can do is mimic

[charred lion]

yeah thats the vibe coding i want

[graceful dust]

sryi forgot im from a parallel universe where we were too smart to use llms like that

[paper hull]

i could buy an entire nations nature reserve and extinct its species for that price

[uncut epoch]

exactly. it’s all algorithms based on training data

[glass sigil]

Gn all

[stone meadow]

money is fake anywwy

[charred lion]

i wanna listen to beabadoobee while getting an error on line 386 (in a 140 line script)

[stone meadow]

whatever makes you happy

[stone meadow]

gn

[heavy ivy]

and like we've seen it start feeding on itself too and so it enshittifies over time

[graceful dust]

its real but its made up theres a difference ☝️ 🤓

[heavy ivy]

gn gio

[stone meadow]

none of you are real

[onyx igloo]

i tell you
ai is like a human centipede

shits into the mouth of other ai

[paper hull]

yummy

[neon bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-pets-pets-fun-funny-animals-animal-fun-fish-watch-gif-13102027227085048314

[burnt kite]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2943740/Prologue_Go_Wayback/

this is free, its dope

Steam

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[heavy ivy]

omg fsh!!!

[stone meadow]

that guy is real

[onyx igloo]

fih...

[graceful dust]

will wright eat ur heart out

[paper hull]

if ai is so bad why am i here

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[charred lion]

it is indeed dope

[stone meadow]

because we're in purgatory

[tender igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-fight-you-gif-9536345

[burnt kite]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-gman-half-life-talking-low-quality-gif-12673683436595651341

[bronze moat]

Peeple R dum.

We had games in 1993 with EPIC ai compared to some of the slop from 2025.

[onyx igloo]

WEED?! WHERE?!

i must sell

[stone meadow]

meeting you just reinforced my belief that you arent real

[paper hull]

my life is an eternal purgatory state

[glass wind]

project zonboid

[paper hull]

very cool joe

[stone meadow]

barely said anything

[bronze moat]

Roxy bot is too cute to be evil!

[charred lion]

ai slop

[stone meadow]

you dont have to be evil to be in purgatory

[burnt kite]

hl1 scientists and guards talk to each other when idle in your squad

[thin wedge]

just wait for the bubble to burst

[heavy ivy]

yegh, of recent: rain world, half life 2 combine tactics, all the halo games

[paper hull]

My bubbles been burst for years

[stone meadow]

whoa

[bronze moat]

She is AI. Slop? Nope.

But she’s also not on the internet

[graceful dust]

real i just generally mean ppl think ai = generative ai & not just a tech catchall term thats existed forever. also i was thinking of peter jacksons king kong the official game of the movie when i said that

[paper hull]

Im a bubble bursting baby

[glass wind]

very cool [#3874999281-092-0]

[stone meadow]

alliteration

[paper hull]

thank you Joe

[stone meadow]

i learned that in english

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-milk-bag-burst-asian-gif-4679687170019552265

[paper hull]

squeeze the big bag of milk

[stone meadow]

I got an A* in my english gcse

[thin wedge]

the bubble burst in question

[heavy ivy]

there's also the aspect of general ai getting worse as developers get lazier too

[charred lion]

you just released her into the internet smh

[stone meadow]

im the milk

[twin bear]

True

[paper hull]

i am at a standstill with ai as we have agreed to see other people while they work some things out

[graceful dust]

the current thing in my class is alliteration & its pissing me off

[stone meadow]

unfortunately ai is here to stay

[quasi slate]

me

[paper hull]

not if i leave

[graceful dust]

assuredly with that attitude

[charred lion]

personally AI should be kept out of arts and culture, but should stay in science, medicine, etc.

[charred lion]

not very 2023 of you

[stone meadow]

I think its bad anywhere tbh

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/bella-ketchup-swan-twilight-edward-gif-18684497

[thin wedge]

is your milk very delicious

[twin bear]

Ai in our drones soon

Lmao

[urban tinsel]

all alliteration and anything adjascent are absolutely atrocious

[stone meadow]

Dont need ai hallucinating a cure to something

[paper hull]

AI has some very practical applications in a world of very unpractical users

[bronze moat]

Look at the early Bond games.

Goldeneye is EPIC. But even the others in that series.

Early world war 2 games too.

I remember listening to an entire conversation between two german guards while playing Medal of Honor. Shooting them made me feel bad

[burnt kite]

to be in purgatory is to let go of evil that lies within to ascend

[graceful dust]

"ai is here to stay" = "i want u to be complacent too" & i get to ask erm why is that exactly

[rain mango]

someday i should become an indie stone tester

[stone meadow]

that sucks. you suck. dont do that again

[charred lion]

im okay with it being in science/medicine as long as it isnt replacing humans, and instead is a tool that can be at MOST an extension of existing humans

[paper hull]

i live my life on the fence it makes it more fun when i fall

[graceful dust]

if u were in charge of the alliteration examples i wouldnt hate it so much

[charred lion]

metaphorically

[heavy ivy]

can't believe you'd flush frogski down the toilet like that Sully

[bronze moat]

Nopes. Just a lame image.

Her brain resides in a “brain box” on my floor

[urban tinsel]

just grab a thesaurus and you're good

[stone meadow]

Is that a kind of dinosaur

[charred lion]

okay good

[graceful dust]

theyre making me use a website whose examples r like, not clearly what they say they are

[urban tinsel]

no... the dinosaurs are the ones who use them

[stone meadow]

I think ive raised one in ark survival

[uncut epoch]

yes

[charred lion]

my favourite dinosaur

[heavy ivy]

dave has decently ethical generative ai all things considered, at least from what i know he's said here before 👍

[paper hull]

lets play chess over mail

[graceful dust]

esp cos im american & to me "10 Downing Street" looks like an address not a metonym

[paper hull]

u go first

[onyx igloo]

nuclear bomb

[stone meadow]

whats a metonym

[charred lion]

my rook looks a bit like a pipe bomb is that okay

[thin wedge]

but sully im a carnotaurus

[charred lion]

custom pieces yk

[bronze moat]

All allosaurus’s allude, allegedly, to allegories of atrocities among anthropologists

[paper hull]

i have plenty of places to store such items

[stone meadow]

I could google it but i like to learn from other people

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-carnotaurus-carno-carnotaurus-the-isle-jwe-gif-25181045

[uncut epoch]

big brain move: challenge two grandmaster chess players over mail. Have em play against each other

[thin wedge]

Where my linkin park edit

[stone meadow]

Crawling in my skin

[charred lion]

it starts with

[graceful dust]

its subbing one word out for another thats closely related. when ppl say "10 downing street" theyre usually using it to mean "the PMs office" not just the physical address

[bronze moat]

I did that. Back around 1990….

[paper hull]

those were the days

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/in-the-end-in-the-virtual-end-hl2-half-life-2-linkin-park-gif-17597979979310870454

[paper hull]

back when dinsoaurs roamed

and fat albert

[burnt kite]

fatbert

[charred lion]

i love fat albert

[paper hull]

hey hey hey

[stone meadow]

My first exposure to linkin park was an amv of naruto fighting sasuke

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dino-dinosaur-dinosaurs-meme-gif-9022381903227633376

[bronze moat]

AOL with a 1440 baud modem. I was KING of the local internet

[thin wedge]

WHAT HAVE DONE

[paper hull]

i loved the grape ape

https://tenor.com/wq7t.gif

hes a grape ape

[burnt kite]

hop on my MUD

[graceful dust]

but most of the examples of metonyms on this site are, for some reason, the actual names of actual govt buildings & they just expect u to assume, without context, that they dont mean the address they mean the head of whatever govt officeis physically located there

[stone meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/nicki-minaj-gif-26083561

[paper hull]

thats not a hannah barbara cartoon wtf

some weird shit..

[heavy ivy]

bee saw their show live in portland last month, was fuckin awesome

[stone meadow]

I remember bluetooth transferring this video

[bronze moat]

I ran a BBS on a commodore 64 from around 1986 to 1996 😂

[stone meadow]

240p

[thin wedge]

but did you have the edit playing with their song

[paper hull]

i remember my friend having infared and making me wait 10 mins to transfer a fucking song

classic

[bronze moat]

All on a 2400 baud modem. That was the max a commodore could handle

[charred lion]

are you using bee as a replacement pronoun here for "I" or "we"

[stone meadow]

I transferred so many things through bluetooth

[burnt kite]

living up to your name

wait, a whole decade?

[heavy ivy]

well no, but it starts with one thing

[charred lion]

i'll respect the pronouns im just curious

[tender igloo]

youre clearly a horseshoe crab

[paper hull]

ik u the kinda dude to put emus on ur phone via java applets

i played pokemon red at school that way

it ran like shit

[tender igloo]

for a sec there i was like i hope thats bill i said that to otherwise i would have felt bad

[burnt kite]

im gonna twist your applets

[thin wedge]

like so

[stone meadow]

i did a ton of shit with java but not emulators

[onyx igloo]

evil

[bronze moat]

I legit miss hacker culture of the 90’s. We’re all getting old, dying off, and the world is not the same anymore

[graceful dust]

i never did that cos the 1st portable device i had that could run emulators was a 3ds... & i still use that

[onyx igloo]

evil phone

[heavy ivy]

bee prefers third person when referring to itself but thats a personal thing, it its is fine for anyone else :]

[burnt kite]

what do yall know about nesticle

[onyx igloo]

phone evil scary :(

[thin wedge]

which sin do you relish

[stone meadow]

kyrgystan didnt have any 3ds s

[charred lion]

@paper hull

[onyx igloo]

pickle relish

[stone meadow]

or any console that isnt a playstation 2 or 3

[burnt kite]

can i get a krabby patty please

[onyx igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-they-dont-want-folks-like-us-no-more-they-dont-want-people-like-us-anymore-they-dont-want-us-rdr2-gif-27368455

[thin wedge]

how pucker-sore

[onyx igloo]

what

[bronze moat]

I still use my commodore.

Old tech bypasses modern security cause no one looks for it or has code written to counteract it

[paper hull]

It was a shit hole and I am glad to no longer be a part of it

[stone meadow]

i did know a guy who had a psp

that was rare tho

[onyx igloo]

hey i have a psp

[thin wedge]

psp do be rare

[onyx igloo]

i still have my psp

[thin wedge]

🥀

[onyx igloo]

i played ratchet and clank on the psp

[charred lion]

can u teach me

[onyx igloo]

while on long road trips

[twin bear]

I got pulp fiction on psp

[bronze moat]

Nope. Civilization has up and changed

[stone meadow]

The only guy i knew that had a ds was literslly a millionares son

[paper hull]

From the video game museum I visited

[burnt kite]

i am definitely not that old, all i know about commodore is the sheer amount of media that was pumped for it

[paper hull]

It's an award given out to psp devkit creators

[onyx igloo]

the tape says dong hehehe

it says dong heheheh

[stone meadow]

that says psvita tho

[burnt kite]

donk pocket

[onyx igloo]

no the yellow

it say dong on the yellow

[burnt kite]

ps vita modding is insane i should get one

[paper hull]

Most of my stuff comes from the java ratting era it's mostly a defunct form of attack

[charred lion]

im forced to learn java i'll take anything i can get

[paper hull]

It was insufferably exploitable in its hayday

And partly why web based java applets are so uncommon now

[bronze moat]

Late 80’s it was THE pc to have.

Cracker/hacker culture really took off.

Then the Apple II came out, mainly for schools.

That led to the mcintosh, and most schools took apple products or got contracts for apple.

Commodore faded away in the 90’s

[stone meadow]

the touchscreen triggers were so ass

[paper hull]

Grew up on my mother's commadore 64 have vivid memories of swapping multiple floppies to play lemmings

Shut would take hours to load and write in

Then I'd fuck up one line

[burnt kite]

the only pc to have I assume, vic-20 is a relic and zx spectrum is a different can of worms

[paper hull]

Gg

[paper hull]

From the same museum

[bronze moat]

First “hack” I wrote which froze my entire schools computer system and got me in front of the priciple:

10- Print “David was here”
20- Gosub 10
Run

[onyx igloo]

vinesauce taught me the existence of commodore 64

it brought me interest to old tech

[burnt kite]

dope

[bronze moat]

I had one!

[paper hull]

it was the goat of its time

i had a bbc micro

[charred lion]

purple aki had one too

[burnt kite]

brb i need to scrub the gamer grime

time for a snake to shed its skin

[paper hull]

Rip purple aki

[bronze moat]

If I was not at work I’d show you my floppy dics set from the 80’s.

Still usable today. Old school star wars and ghostbusters games on em

[fathom igloo]

Does buying a 3ds when your an adult count?

[paper hull]

😔

[stone meadow]

sure

[bronze moat]

https://tenor.com/view/8bit-retrogaming-c64-commodore64-epyx-gif-19435893

[paper hull]

just give em a squeeze bruv

[bronze moat]

Or SUMMER GAMES

[stone meadow]

Buying a 1080ti years later does too

[fathom igloo]

Well now you know two people who own a DS lol

[stone meadow]

Wow are you a millionare

can you lend me 200k

[bronze moat]

I have a 1080Ti and a 2070 up for sale if someone wants em

[fathom igloo]

No, I’m just financially irresponsible

[paper hull]

this is a real DS game

it is worth $200

[stone meadow]

smh why even keep you around, banned

[thin wedge]

he needs mouse bites
[Press turn the ds screen horizontally]

[bronze moat]

I have a “lost” kojima game 😉

[burnt kite]

my CS teacher had, and probably still has a Sony Mavica. They are unbelievably dope, but one or something photo per floppy

[paper hull]

i have a 89% complete PAL ps2 collection

[bronze moat]

https://tenor.com/view/snatcher-1988-80s-video-games-gif-17617406422387365465

[paper hull]

as well as several signed copies of games

its a slight hobby

[bronze moat]

Snatcher. 5000 copies released. I got one

[paper hull]

used to do video game archival

but i gave it up

[burnt kite]

I think I have a full 2600 collection somewhere, including protos

it totals to less than 100, and maybe even less than 50 mbs

[stone meadow]

I should have gotten tis to sign my stuff

[fathom igloo]

I’ll sell a kidney to you though. $9 million usd it’s a spectacular sale

[paper hull]

trying to sell a few signed games atm mostly weeb shit tho

tales of games etc

[bronze moat]

I also have unreleased Game Cube games, but cant share or sell em

[stone meadow]

Why, is it illegal

[fathom igloo]

Likeeeee

Is there an unreleased sims castaway 2?

[burnt kite]

i would kill for a devkit console, they are just cool

[bronze moat]

Some are “rom” copies before release was cancelled.

Others were only available to employees / devs

[paper hull]

I got a korean ARPG called hazardu i got from a man who archived it in mainland china, it was made by a dev team of 3 people 2 of which got conscripted to army service and never got to finish the game

i had to fly to china to get the masters for that

i technically have it but i cannot release it without the investors permission

[fathom igloo]

Give me okage shadow king 2

[paper hull]

its essentially just a korean diablo clone

[burnt kite]

like a hack or heavily inspired by it

[paper hull]

heavily inspired

about 2-3 levels finished and if you go above level 10 the game hard crashes

its very unfinished

[bronze moat]

Army men is one of them.

18+ level violence but with plastic army men. Nintendo canceled the games release less than 30 days before it hit store shelves.

Game is fully playable. Fully completed. Maybe 200 copies exist

[fathom igloo]

This gives abandoned mansion vibes

[bronze moat]

I also have a copy of the $2,000+ Zelda disc

[paper hull]

dudee i had a pre alpha copy of elder scrolls morrowind for the original xbox printed on a pre release disc i ended up selling that fucking thing for a bomb

the disc itself read "xgame" because they hadnt finalized the xbox name yet

[bronze moat]

Something like 50 games were un-released. I got em all 😉

[graceful dust]

i cant think of any like completely unreleased sims games rn

[paper hull]

ohhh i know this one

[twin bear]

I got some pocket lint

[paper hull]

there is an unreleased port of urbz sims in the city for the nokia n gage

[bronze moat]

I have a copy in storage and a copy to play……

[burnt kite]

sharing is caring

[paper hull]

its essentially lost media

[burnt kite]

i used to play the hell out of sims freeplay thingies

[graceful dust]

ok wait that sounds abt right. ofc it would be urbz too

[paper hull]

theres a lost kingdom hearts game for the n gage too

its shit but strangely canon to the plot

lmfao

[graceful dust]

coded?

i think u can actually play it somewhere

but yea re:coded is super important to the plot & ppl think its skippable

[bronze moat]

Is funny that Ocarina Of Time was considered too difficult for American gamers.

I can’t help but imagine if they left the OG game un-changed for the US release

[graceful dust]

but ppl think every kh side game is skippable & for the most part they arent, thats why they keep rereleasing them

fingers crossed missing link wasnt gonna be important to kh4

[urban tinsel]

that's exactly what turned me off of the series after the first

[paper hull]

u aint wrong

its a fucking mess

[graceful dust]

🤷 games with lots of lore arent for everyone

its rly less of a mess than its made out to be but i also like nier so like

[paper hull]

its not that its lots of lore its that its a fucking plethora of lore and they tuck it away in 10+ sidegames

[urban tinsel]

I like lore... but I'd like the games to all be on the same platform if I'm expected to follow the lore

[paper hull]

and thats not an exaggeration

[graceful dust]

for the most part they are

[urban tinsel]

now, they weren't then

[graceful dust]

they rerelease them every time they make a mainline game on a new platform

[last spoke]

The fact it's full of Disney IPs means I hold extreme prejudice towards it anyway

[urban tinsel]

I wasn't about to go out and buy multiple handheld devices just to know what's going on in the series

[graceful dust]

also like... its a series that challenges ur perception of how important a sidegame is allowed to be

yea no i super waited til the story so far to get into ddd

couldnt emulate it yet

& didnt have a 3ds yet iirc

[paper hull]

it wasnt even meant to be a game to be honest, square had been in talks at a business meeting and just happened to run into japanese disney execs who were planning on making tokyoland disney and they wanted more awareness in the japanese market, the creator was at the time working on the bouncer PS2 a PS2 launch title and quite literally lifted most of kingdomh hearts beta assets from this

its why sora is literally just the dude from bouncer

https://i.vgy.me/R0wVsO.png

[graceful dust]

it is rly funny how now disney wants ppl to forget kh

[burnt kite]

brb

[graceful dust]

his fursona

[paper hull]

if you are a KH fan you should look into the bouncer it holds alot of beta assets for KH

[graceful dust]

on it, boss 🫡

[paper hull]

you can see alot of the character designs and art styles form there

all the buckles on everything and shit dude had been doing it forever haha

[graceful dust]

nomura is... a way abt character designs

like riku is just noctis now. & there 2 of noctis in kh

[paper hull]

KH is a complete mindfuck to me in all honest im more fascinated with its development process than its actual overarching story

i will say KH2 is a fantastic game gameplay wise

despite its game breaking bugs

[graceful dust]

ough

[paper hull]

its just downright good

[graceful dust]

it is rly not that much of a mindfuck when ur into it

kh is prolly the weakest story-wise

the pacing is so wack

kh2 *

[paper hull]

yeah it was a game i always played on the sidelines tbh i was always a square fan but never really into disney when it was announced i was deep in the world of FF11 it just felt too small for me at the time

my eyes were on end game events in mmos and shit it just passed me by

[graceful dust]

once in a while i go thru & try to replay the entire series its just i usually get stuck somewhere like... either com or ddd

recom* rather bc com actually plays well

but i get stuck on recom cos its not well-designed lol

[bronze moat]

Game series also break lore regularly. The two newest zelda games are NOT canon for example. Yet they are among the most popular ever

[urban tinsel]

I mean, nobody plays zelda for the lore

[graceful dust]

the disney part of it is wild like im able to kinda separate it out but its clear that the original characters to kh have taken space that was for ff characters before so theres basically no longer ff characters in it. & i kinda understand but at the same time it gets difficult to explain how its still a ff/disney crossover series

[tender igloo]

windwaker ftw for the boats!

[urban tinsel]

I still refuse to accept that the games are somehow connected

[graceful dust]

i did... 😭

[thin wedge]

L take sully it all about the lore

[urban tinsel]

and Link to the Past is easily the best

[bronze moat]

Hey! I do!

But I also helped create some of it 😂

[thin wedge]

otherwise no one would bother getting past the water temple

[bronze moat]

Windwaker 10/10 is my favorite. Second fave is MM

[graceful dust]

if u mean in like a coherent timeline the official one is deffo bs but it has basically the same like... what r they called... all the characters etc.

[urban tinsel]

MM is great from a gameplay perspective, probably the best from a gameplay perspective

[bronze moat]

I love windwaker tying in directly to OOT

[graceful dust]

they have pretty well established what makes a zelda game in terms of its lore

[bronze moat]

I’m a smol fish, but am in the credits. Love the game’s vibes

[thin wedge]

a zelda is stuck in lego hyrule castle

get the triforce

HEY

[bronze moat]

Timey whimy wibbly wobbly time travel also lets you just do anything you want and call it canon or not based on taste

[paper hull]

zelda movie feat jack black

[graceful dust]

that said eventually i will compel them w the power of woke to break it a bit so zelda can be a girl ||/The Joke||. did y'all know that the whole prophecy thing in tloz is gender essentialist i thought that was funny. but also wtf

[thin wedge]

build the triforce, get the master sword and save zelda from ganon once again in thr new lego hyrule collection

[tender igloo]

no lol , i watched minecraft movie when i had covid and i got anxiety

[rain mango]

thinking of coding and making a proper "peeing?" mod for zomboid that uses drinking liquids to increase an invisible moodle until max level where u have to

[graceful dust]

god i cannot for the life of it remember what its called but its more abt the setup. how the triforce relates to the characters etc.

[paper hull]

my wife literally forced me to watch it

[rain mango]

would have like sims censorship with blur pixels

[paper hull]

now i sing the lava chicken song to torment her

[thin wedge]

I AM LINK

[tender igloo]

it was so weird , i was just like how are they going to make this movieish lol

[rain mango]

i think it fits zomboid if its like how the sims implemented it

[bronze moat]

Lifestyles handles bathroom needs really well IMO.

Not overdone, not too silly.

[thin wedge]

BOMBS AND LAMP OIL

[tender igloo]

like i love dumb animated movies and stuff but gosh

[graceful dust]

im talking in a more specific sense

[rain mango]

its still got lots of baggage in that mod

[stone meadow]

Ropes? Lamp oil? Bombs?

[paper hull]

it was a literal fever dream to me i cannot believe a studio signed off on it

[paper hull]

you want it?

its yours my friend

as long as you have enough rupees

[rain mango]

i dont like the clean room mechanic can i disable it

i want only guitar and bathroom not clean room

[paper hull]

fuck it greed sever

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-killer-creepypasta-pompoms-dance-gif-12643389430059030806

[paper hull]

https://tenor.com/Sh27xcQRSd.gif

ok goodnight

[stone meadow]

kill it jeff

[stone meadow]

ok?

[bronze moat]

Yes. Every feature has sandbox settings.

I set bathroom needs to once per day. With 4 hour long days it’s super easy to manage