general_chat

[sacred schooner]

they're good, but I keep em for cutting down trees

[vital marten]

No I don’t care about quality

[floral fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-wood-gif-20997349

[chilly quail]

holy cow. Max amount of zombies I killed was like 40 😭

yall are some real ones tho

[neon bramble]

the car trunk is my favorite gun

[chilly quail]

reminds me of the fallout 76 community lol

[neon bramble]

reverse on speed demon go brrrr

[chilly quail]

super welcoming

[vital marten]

So real

[floral fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-car-crash-gif-9388562661726532947

[chilly quail]

ill update yall as i go.

[mellow birch]

currently playthrough is mostly vanilla, b41 spawned in westpoint rushed lv on insane pop

[rain mango]

did you just begin playing pz?

[vital marten]

Did you know speed demon makes the revving of a car in reverse 100% louder?

[mellow birch]

just cleared the mall

[vital marten]

At least in b41 it does

[chilly quail]

ive had it for like 3 years and never bothered to paly it

[floral fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-tongs-pick-up-cute-cockatiel-gif-16576412

[mellow birch]

survived a month and at 10k kills about

[chilly quail]

i am just starting it up rn

[rain mango]

ill take that as a yes

[neon bramble]

who cares faster accel will save your life

[chilly quail]

yea

[mellow birch]

put down

[rain mango]

dont mod the game

[mellow birch]

rude

[vital marten]

True

[sacred schooner]

surviving the first few days is always a challenge, but you'll get the hang of it

[rain mango]

have fun with the vanilla game for a good first experience

[vital marten]

^^

[neon bramble]

if you are in a situation where it matters, you need to book it yesterday and the noise is hardly an issue

[chilly quail]

I usually dont mod any games tbh. I appreciate it tho!

[rain mango]

then once you're comfy with the controls and functions, mod the fuck out of it

mod it until it breaks

thats what i do

[sacred schooner]

one either has no mods or 250 mods

[vital marten]

You’ll mod this one after 300 hours trust

[mellow birch]

mod the game

vanilla pz is stinky compared to the modded experience

[rain mango]

i was planning on downloading a mod that adds the entire shrek movie onto a VHS and CD into the game

[chilly quail]

thanks bro, it only makes sense surviving a zombie apocolypse is hard 🤣

[floral fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pz-project-zomboid-this-is-how-you-died-no-hope-of-survival-doomed-gif-17767817868248169718

[mellow birch]

-someone who plays mostly vanilla

you’ll probably have more fun in modded

[vital marten]

No they make it better

We used to not have a pump indicator on our gas meter in cars

[floral fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-bird-soul-gif-21844036

no

[vital marten]

Yes I know we had to mod it in before

B39 🥀

[rain mango]

this is a thing

i am dead serious

[vital marten]

When beds still had sheets and pillows 😭

[neon bramble]

the days of butter knife supermacy

[thin wedge]

truly the boring experience

[rain mango]

vanilla pz is good

[vital marten]

The days of telecorn

[burnt kite]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

hmmmm

[rain mango]

i think anyone new to pz shouldnt mod the game until they've become familiar with the vanilla game

then once they're familiar and comfy

mod the game until it breaks

[chilly quail]

my guy is now starting with 10 strength. West point be warned.

[mellow birch]

that’s generally good practice

[rain mango]

im talkin truckloads

of mods

[sacred schooner]

I downloaded 1+ hours tapes of creedance water revival to listen on loops

[mellow birch]

but some mods make understanding the game easier

[neon bramble]

though vanilla b41 is pretty puddle deep

[thin wedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241960395594530838/1398802005148962867/attachment.gif?ex=68ce8922&is=68cd37a2&hm=fb80fe6a3480826716862ba9b4ddc6fec5f36ce2b60236435acb90351ff5b834&

[neon bramble]

the game falls apart the second you stop being afraid of zombies

[mellow birch]

real

[rain mango]

thats when you start trying out sprinters.

[mellow birch]

meh idk

[neon bramble]

it does not take much competence to overcome fast shamblers

[rain mango]

no matter what you do

[sacred schooner]

0.1 to 1% sprinters

[rain mango]

a sprinter will never not scare you

[mellow birch]

it becomes a bonk the world simulator

[neon bramble]

no sprinters is unplayable for me ye

I'm talkin out of the box zomboid

no sandbox

[rain mango]

sprinters my beloved

i think b42 adds random sprinters right?

to the vanilla game

[neon bramble]

its native to sandbox yes

[sacred schooner]

I like a low number of sprinters to always keep me on my toes

[rain mango]

try speed reduction mods

[mellow birch]

not the default settings

[neon bramble]

I am comfortable with 5% sprinters

normal

[rain mango]

i usually play with randomized sprinters slowed by like

25%

still really dangerous but you can barely outrun them

just barely

[sacred schooner]

if only we had a vanilla joggers preset

[rain mango]

but i disabled randomized sprinters in the run im doing currently

just fast shamblers and slow shamblers

idk why but im a big fan of slow shamblers

[vital marten]

Outside the paint store next to the door that says no smoking…

…a paint can repurposed as an ash tray

[neon bramble]

talkin mods when I'm tryna judge vanilla by it's merits is a lil wack

[rain mango]

its not cuz they're easy as all hell

[sacred schooner]

I find slow shamblers... pityful

[rain mango]

they really

really make me uncomfortable

idk why

but they make me so uncomfortable

[vital marten]

Well they are like bug

[quasi slate]

turns out this game is giga p2w

[neon bramble]

I dont disagree but the scope is different

personally I like no multihit 20-30% joggers

[sacred schooner]

who woulda thonk

[rain mango]

i like multihit

i wish pushes with double handed weapons had multi hit

realistically you can shove two or three zombies with an axe

but could only hit one at a time with the axe head

[sacred schooner]

multihit is great since my pc can handle a ridiculous number of zombies on screen

[rain mango]

same

idk how pz lags a person's pc

its literally ps1 graphics or something

maybe its the vast amount of corpses and zombies or something

idk it lagged the hell out of my old pc

my new one runs it like bread and butter

[neon bramble]

I'd rather increase sprinters than ramp up population

[rain mango]

oh speaking of population

i think mine might be too easy

you see i set mine to low

[sacred schooner]

if you dump thousands of 3d items on the floor of your base

[rain mango]

but on peak day, the population explodes into insane

[rain mango]

28 days to prepare

because they become numerous

28 days later

wait...say that again

[quasi slate]

wait xal you play with multihit on?......

[neon bramble]

guess it depends on how hard you rush

[sacred schooner]

I do very high pop no respawn

[neon bramble]

you can easily pick checkpoint clean in under a week if you really put your back into it

[young kelp]

[rain mango]

i have respawns disabled

but im really

[neon bramble]

and the hobo phase is arguably the best part of the game

[rain mango]

really contemplating

whether or not to turn it back on

[young kelp]

respawn off is boring

[rain mango]

the game becomes boring

[young kelp]

just make it longer

[rain mango]

yeah

no zombies to continue fighting constantly

[young kelp]

instead of the default 3 days 10%

make it like 1 month 50%

[sacred schooner]

always have, I prefer dealing with thousands of zombies to get somewhere

[rain mango]

"there was no hope of survival" when i wipe out rosewood in a week or two

you guys know those two houses in rosewood that are rural but not really rural?

[quasi slate]

i always considered multihit to be way too rewarding i cant play with it myself

[sacred schooner]

thousands is not an hyperbole

[chilly quail]

im off to a decent start. Spawned in got the essentials

[rain mango]

a dirt path leads to the two houses

[onyx igloo]

yo i just had a big brain idea

[neon bramble]

I dont like multihit cause it kinda kills the tension of sprinters

[onyx igloo]

use the helicopter event as a way of respawning zomboids

[rain mango]

not

not really.

[onyx igloo]

just spawn em in the woods

[sacred schooner]

not

[chilly quail]

im watching tv now lol

[rain mango]

not really bro

it really doesnt

[onyx igloo]

heli brings them to town

[quasi slate]

sprinter can still top u from behind

what multi hit do

[sacred schooner]

I still piss myself at the sight of sprinters

[rain mango]

sprinters are dangerous no matter what

[neon bramble]

I can comfortably take on 3+ half asleep with multihit

[rain mango]

no matter if they're fragile

weak

have poor eyesight, hearing, and memory

and low population

they can still easily overrun you

[neon bramble]

it gets dicey again w/o multihit

[quasi slate]

pz end game is already boring as is multihit will just add more yawns for me

[neon bramble]

there is no endgame lmao

[rain mango]

mehhh

im a multi-hit fan

[neon bramble]

there is no real gameplay shift after the first week or so

[chilly quail]

life and living tv show is done now reading 200 pages of a fucking book

[neon bramble]

anything you get is just more of the same

[rain mango]

YO WHAT LMAO

[quasi slate]

ermmm the end game gameplay is surviving after establishing

[rain mango]

LOL WHAT

[sacred schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-24818151

[neon bramble]

you do the same things to secure an area

[onyx igloo]

had to repeat himself

[rain mango]

????😭

[onyx igloo]

lmao

[chilly quail]

actually?

[neon bramble]

the way you fight is fundamentally the same just at a larger scale

[thin wedge]

pz end game will be unlock the secret +18 cutscenes

[rain mango]

WHAT could bro be talking about

[sacred schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/mlfiresoul-among-us-crewmate-feet-cursed-gif-5730796876299319869

[quasi slate]

the secret bob and kate cutscene

[onyx igloo]

i disprove this

anyways

[rain mango]

why did amogus do that

[onyx igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[neon bramble]

I'm talkin from a purely combat standpoint

[rain mango]

is he evil

[neon bramble]

the survival side is iffy because I personally dont engage with half of it

[onyx igloo]

what kind of evil

[neon bramble]

so I don't talk about it

[sacred schooner]

where's Leon when you need him

[rain mango]

just saw a sprinter bite a female survivor. it's over. knox county has fallen.

billions must turn.

[quasi slate]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-kennedy-leon-kennedy-fortnite-fortnite-resident-evil-4-gif-17255832290404764259

[rain mango]

is this that guy from resident evil

[quasi slate]

i would kill to have Ada Wong in fortnite

[onyx igloo]

sleepy kat

(she is annoyed)

[chilly quail]

aww

[neat moat]

babushka

[vital marten]

I am home

This is amazing

[quasi slate]

get cozy in your blanket roll Lou and pull out the steamdeck

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-2-james-regrets-nothing-tuchimo-gif-10269349112729066212

Wasted

hella wasted

[burnt kite]

yo canary xenia actually works decently with skate 2

[neon bramble]

workplace accident

[rain mango]

remember when we thought build 42 would be ready by halloween

[burnt kite]

the war will be over by Christmas

[rain mango]

annoyed weird dog

[young kelp]

it will be

just not this year

[thin wedge]

They're right

[young kelp]

[toxic relic]

yo wait

[unreal bane]

Your PC can't handle an excessive amount of zeds on your screen, especially on older patches. Sometimes they will then appear completely black with no features.

[young kelp]

wasn't there a mod

that does that

but allows you to set it lower

so that it needs a lot less zombie count to turn the other zombies into shadows

[thin wedge]

epic gpu fail

AMD moment

[neat moat]

Hana ate all the gpu

no more processing

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-pc-pc-on-fire-optimized-videogame-fps-gif-20268447

[last spoke]

Judging by the fact that most of that person's previous messages were replying "not interested" to a bunch of LFG posts, I think they're actually just being a dork

[toxic relic]

i seriously doubt they're talking about their gpu issues but i appreciate the pivot response

[uncut epoch]

[neat moat]

👁 👁

[vital marten]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-party-hips-touhou-project-when-haces-tus-momos-en-video-solid-snake-gif-3387813306656985042

[thin wedge]

wtf they took all his cake

[last spoke]

It would seem I was right

[vital marten]

This is solid snake not big boss

[neon bramble]

is there a city builder that simulates skilled labor

[vital marten]

Solid was a little flat

[thin wedge]

WRONG

he has all the good genes

[vital marten]

Recessive genes son

[quasi slate]

party hips with zero cake is crazy

[toxic relic]

why are you nerd reacting me bill

[neon bramble]

instead of generically universally traind plebs that can do whatever the hell you want them to

[quasi slate]

https://tenor.com/view/jinxrers-fortnite-jill-valentine-mine-emote-gif-13578332663401270391

[vital marten]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-mgs-mgs4-ocelot-liquid-ocelot-gif-18131446

[thin wedge]

Liquid has no cake

Its not stealthy or viable to have a back clapper

[quasi slate]

i think mecha team leader got more cake than snake and his cheeks are flat like a conductive stove top

[uncut epoch]

[thin wedge]

is it false then

you are not a nerd then

[toxic relic]

i am a man of science

a nerd

[vital marten]

You’ve got a point, but only a small one

[toxic relic]

🤓

[last spoke]

Manor Lords has households that can do most jobs like lumbering, gathering, digging and building, but as soon as you give a given household an advanced job, they're locked in to that and will no longer do those other things, does that count?

[neon bramble]

it's the closest thing I can think of

if memory serves people can't move into existing households yea

[chilly quail]

yea bro im cooked

there are just too many zombies

[vital marten]

Eat them wym

Bro ain’t never been faced with a buffet before

[neon bramble]

I dont remember how migration works into existing families in manor lords

[chilly quail]

I am left with a pipe and a dream

[quasi slate]

🤔

[vital marten]

This is why you pick up every single hammer

I noticed in b42 hammer spawns weren’t as plentiful as they used to be, this saddens me

[thin wedge]

atleast nintendo gets it right

[neon bramble]

my only real gripe with manor lords so far is military is too cheap and easy to raise

[thin wedge]

hungry hungry hippo hand

[chilly quail]

I can’t find any weapons better than a pipe or pan lol

[vital marten]

Foot

[last spoke]

I dunno if my priorities were outta wack or sum but the combat made like no sense to me and it ended up just being my blob of guys kept thrusting at the enemy blob of guys and a few of them fell over

[vital marten]

Give them the taste of defeet

[neon bramble]

the combat itself is fine I think

I am just not a fan of military equipment and training being a one off cost in a city builder

[last spoke]

I never bothered to engage with it

[neon bramble]

its just simplified total war without cav

nothing hard anyway

[chilly quail]

What does this mean

[vital marten]

Use your stompers

Go elephant mode

[neon bramble]

it would be way more interesting if you had to factor training time and the people who can use the better gear have to spend less time producing to get better at their weapon skills

retinue kind of adresses this but it's just a single lump payment and don't really need infrastructure to back them

the cool thing about manor lords is you had to deal with mustering and fighting within your settlement

[thin wedge]

Bro skipped the tuto

[neon bramble]

tbh in that type of game the battle should be a formality

mostly

tactics are for people being proactive and punching up

[last spoke]

Combat in city builders are very hit or miss for me I guess

[neon bramble]

city builder combat should always focus more on strategy anyway

good tactics can save you a fight but with losses unacceptable on the strategic layer so... the player will just restart and re-strategize anyway lmao

[vital marten]

Feeling funky today

[onyx igloo]

funky on a friday

[vital marten]

[toxic relic]

bro im riding into a black hole

[vital marten]

An ocelot never lets his prey escape

[onyx igloo]

you could say lou is having a funky friday

[vital marten]

Meow

[onyx igloo]

i hate myself

[quasi slate]

hop on dyson sphere

(the game)

[last spoke]

I should play Sweet Transit again

[vital marten]

Love yourself instead, you’re a fun character Sean

Truly a joy to have around

[toxic relic]

i dont trust your game references/recommendation

[neon bramble]

I am hopelessly hooked on songs of syx

[pale berry]

@twin bear @burnt kite I'm trying something new in the gmod server
ragdoll sandbox + horror maps

[quasi slate]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1366540/Dyson_Sphere_Program/

Steam

Dyson Sphere Program

Dyson Sphere Program is a sci-fi sandbox construction game with space, adventure, exploration and factory automation elements. In the future, humanity creates a supercomputer known as the "CentreBrain" with the hope of utilizing its powerful computing capabilities to further expand the application of virtual worlds.

You are a space engineer i…

Price

$19.99

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78971

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[neon bramble]

dont quite understand the tech system yet but I love it

[burnt kite]

ragdoll sandbox?

[quasi slate]

its factorio but space

and 3d

[pale berry]

lemme get a example

[onyx igloo]

ok

[plush cobalt]

2 hours, 21 minutes, 30 seconds

[vital marten]

[rain mango]

weird paramilitary dog

[vital marten]

Taking your cowboy hat buster

[toxic relic]

bro please tell me thats when i die

[vital marten]

Damn

[toxic relic]

no thanks

i dont wanna rp as the all mother from humanity lost

[vital marten]

I kinda like games where I’m god

Fear me little creation

[quasi slate]

leave me alone with a thargoid in a room and you will find me dead

https://tenor.com/view/elite-dangerous-elite-elite-dangerous-odyssey-space-sim-alexxxa-gif-25261975

[toxic relic]

im not interested

i find it banal

[onyx igloo]

i think we need more mango trees

i want more mangos

[toxic relic]

can you grow mango in the usa sustainably

[onyx igloo]

dont the trees also absorb alot of carbon

[onyx igloo]

maybe?

depends on what environment it needs

[vital marten]

I find your vocabulary is immaculate at times, what a word

[toxic relic]

trees are great for producing 02 but if you really want to help then theres better carbon consuming plants

such as moss and algae

[onyx igloo]

i like games where i can be a random person

[toxic relic]

[onyx igloo]

can we also have the mangos because i like mangos

taro is good aswell

[vital marten]

Irl suits this playstyle well if you have nothing holding you back

[neon bramble]

songs of syx has me tweaking right now

I think I will explode

[onyx igloo]

i cant start an apocalypse.. from my knowledge

[vital marten]

Also you’d probably like Crusader kings Sean, you can literally be anyone

[last spoke]

Yo stink, do you like logistics?

[toxic relic]

yes

[last spoke]

You might like Sweet Transit

[vital marten]

I would’ve guessed not, color me surprised

[onyx igloo]

i like vehicle management

[neon bramble]

openttd tournament

[last spoke]

It's an automation game, but the focus is shifted waaaay towards the logistical side of things

[onyx igloo]

its fun to open an engine up and fix it

like advanced legos

[toxic relic]

is this directed at me?

[last spoke]

The production is just put the production building in the production area and they produce when supplied with workers and equipment

[toxic relic]

real shit brother

[vital marten]

The most I like to manage is my inventory, it all falls apart when I go to larger scale things

[toxic relic]

🤔

will look it up

[onyx igloo]

my winter car is looking really interesting

[neon bramble]

I am weird with automation games

[onyx igloo]

you can have different transmissions

[neon bramble]

always like it the best if I can put it into military and attacking people

[onyx igloo]

and i think AWD and RWD..?

[last spoke]

The emphasis is on getting items and workers to where they're needed, primarily with trains, but smaller scale logistics such as marketplaces are handled by two legs and a heartbeat

[neon bramble]

only got into ttd because I can engage in financial warfare

[vital marten]

Yes, I wouldn’t have thought that you would’ve enjoyed that sort of thing. It’s not at all meant to be a shot at you if that’s how you felt 😅

[last spoke]

It's literally Factorio's train system but it's the whole game

[toxic relic]

i fuck with that

[vital marten]

Pregnant?! Just a little alcohol

It won’t hurt

GUH

[onyx igloo]

why did hollywood ruin the image of the humble station wagon

IT IS NOT BORING

IT IS PEAK VEHICLE DESIGN

[neon bramble]

shut up and buy my new car

[vital marten]

Station wagon as in steam engine or horse driven? Either way both are cool

[onyx igloo]

throw that shitty crossover bull out the window and DESIGN INTERESTING CARS

[vital marten]

I’m dumb in some things ik

[last spoke]

It's a car, that excludes it from being considered a good vehicle

Come back when you've got a train

[toxic relic]

i didnt take it to be offensive, just affrighted by the speed at which the conversation is going and needed clarification haha.

[neon bramble]

hear me out

[onyx igloo]

I dont think I have the money for a train

[neon bramble]

put a gun on the train

[burnt kite]

hey there its josh and welcome back to lets game it out

[toxic relic]

i felt a like having alittle fun today so we're going to see how many bombs i can blow up in steam engine simulator until my game crashes

answering the age old question, how many explosives can this game farm?
-4 irl weeks later
alright i left my game running and it looks like 2444447569748 is the limit

[burnt kite]

ahlelele ahlelas

[toxic relic]

if you can grow sustainably then fuck yeah brother

[neon bramble]

for your grandkids

[toxic relic]

i moreso meant ecologically

[neat moat]

ecology is complimocated

[toxic relic]

what isnt bro

[neat moat]

dis dick

gottem

[burnt kite]

the fuck is happening on mobile 🎋

gallery broke

[toxic relic]

i do feel a stirring disquistive desire to deconstruct the machinations of games like song of syx or sweet train in order to find what simultaneously compels me to play them and repulses me about them

[onyx igloo]

MORE MANGOS

THERE SHALL NO LONGER BE CARBON IN THE AIR

[toxic relic]

i find logistics and spreadsheet gaming very alluring however so many games that tout the apparent potential to gratify my prurient fantasies of data collection and administrative action so often disappoint me with their, in my opinion, lack of actualization of this potential

[neon bramble]

songs of syx race design is driving me feral

mechanics integration is usually what gets me

problem is it's hard to see it from the outside

[toxic relic]

the lack of such? or their competent inclusion

[toxic relic]

true

[neon bramble]

competent inclusion and a coherent vision

[toxic relic]

real

[neon bramble]

it really feels like personality of a settlement is an important target in songs of syx

each race demands a different set of consumer goods to furnish their homes and improve happiness

and some races prefer rounder buildings

only the humans and dwarfs like square grids and stone walls

[onyx igloo]

you all get khrushchevka

[neon bramble]

elves and pig people like rounder and irregular building shapes and cheaper wood construction

this is on top of racial preferences

humans dgaf about their neighbors, dwarves dont like elves and elves hate everyone

[toxic relic]

🤔 seems like everything you said haha

coherent vision, integration of mechanics

[neon bramble]

I am struggling to explain the more complex mechanics

because what broke me is the true racial advantage of humans

infrastructure

[toxic relic]

nah nah fair, its hard to articulate something so complex and deep rooted in order to support the veracity of your enthusiasm

[neon bramble]

I will refer to military a lot because it's an easily scalable metric of what the race can muster

[toxic relic]

👍

[neon bramble]

and part of why I'm so obsessed with the game

everything ties in so well it's garasdwdsxhgfvauysghdasd

[toxic relic]

ahaha

[neon bramble]

dwarves have long lives, superior craftsmanship and have preferences that lend well to industrializing

so a dwarven army is going to be well equipped and extremely skilled from more training

the true impact of long lifespan is retention of the skill in the population

so dwarves can train less every day while maintaining an elite status among their forces while going about their very productive days and have a natural aptitude for combat

dwarves maintain an equipment edge over the other races because they can easily afford to 'overpay' equipment to upgrade their troops

humans on the other hand live shorter lives, have no industrial bonuses. they are explicitly just okay at every job

[toxic relic]

alright

whats the advantage

[neon bramble]

they love science

[onyx igloo]

science is cool

[toxic relic]

🤔

[onyx igloo]

this game sounds cool

[neon bramble]

humans are only better at researching and maintaining their tech

remember you need infrastructure to maintain what technology you have

and technology gives you a lot of small incremental buffs across the board that really stack up at the cost of the infrastructure to maintain your libraries

[onyx igloo]

what is this game called

[toxic relic]

song of syx

[neon bramble]

so humans stack the (research) industry on their normal industry for more industry

[onyx igloo]

i take a look

[neon bramble]

and did I mention the education system yet

[onyx igloo]

it reminds me of rimworld

[neon bramble]

you can send people to university for more productivity bonuses at the cost of time

[toxic relic]

i can see why this game is absorbing

[neon bramble]

this takes labor away from normal jobs into laboratories (research), libraries (retention) and education

which are effectively industries in their own right

[chilly quail]

i finally got a crowbar. THE COURT HOUSE SUCKS ASS

rich neighborhood is really good for food tho

[neon bramble]

so with all of these taken into account the humans can leverage their larger numbers to stack bonuses on bonuses making up for their lack of their innate racial traits

a human force won't be as well trained and well equipped but they can level the playing field with good enough training and more numbers than the comparatively elite dwarven force

and unlike the dwarven force they can absorb losses to their workforce and military better due to their advantages being rooted in existing infrastructure than the inherent quality of their people

[chilly quail]

there are so many damn zombies no way this town in kentucky got 100 plus zombies in this small neighborhood

i suppose if it was easy it wouldnt be fun

[toxic relic]

you explain well

ill consider this when i have time to dedicated to playing a new game

[neon bramble]

is good gaem

[neon bramble]

I like combat in city builders because warfare is a very inefficient use of industry but very insisting force on your decision making

[onyx igloo]

i dont know how yall manage to explain things so well lol

[toxic relic]

this is a very illuminating opinion

[onyx igloo]

my brain usually just throws out a couple words in hope of the audience understanding

[toxic relic]

do you feel like it more accurately or holistically conveys the impact of and effort required to conduct warfare

[neon bramble]

accuracy is a lil irrelevant in my book because tactics is always based on the realities of the field

making a coherent system comes first

[toxic relic]

fair

tolkien-type thought process

i fuck with it

[neon bramble]

what the dev wants =/= how the people will try to apply their will on it

[vital marten]

Fucking shit man

Knock on wood the stereotype is fake

I do work for my first Karen soon

[neon bramble]

as for my personal preference

uhhh it fun

marching army cool

[toxic relic]

lmao

game fun

[toxic relic]

bro needs to meditate and find inner contentedness

the final boss of any blue collar worker

🙏 gl brother

[vital marten]

Do what now? Go crazy?

[neon bramble]

it has been gripping my brain for like

[toxic relic]

whatever makes it easier to handle a karen lmao

[neon bramble]

the past few days

[twin bear]

Are u in the garbage area

[toxic relic]

https://tenor.com/view/going-crazy-willem-dafoe-grin-smile-gif-16959907

[twin bear]

I want to find a group for an rp server to troll

[sacred schooner]

crazy? I was crazy once! (heavy sleep deprivation is making me feel WEIIIIIIIIIIRD)

[twin bear]

Or just goof around

[thin wedge]

RDM RDM RDM RDM RDM

https://tenor.com/view/rdm-garrys-mod-gmod-rdm-rdm-rdm-rdm-roblox-gif-24701374

[twin bear]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-garrys-mod-role-play-rp-gif-25902907

[vital marten]

Hey now that’s a good time

I dare you to rock out and headbang

Do it like you’re on top of the world

on the real though why not just sleep?

[sacred schooner]

I just tried

[vital marten]

Oh

Insomnia?

[sacred schooner]

slept for like 2 hours

[burnt kite]

i wish there was a darkrp where people actually rp instead of grinding coke in their basements and just killing each other

[sacred schooner]

then woke up feeling weird

[pale berry]

I'm not good at trolling HOWEVER hear me out

[vital marten]

More often than not I’ve found sleeping 2 hours is worse than staying up

There might be a study on it but I’m sure there’s something there

[pale berry]

Hl2 campaign with https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3233402734

[sacred schooner]

after 40 hours it's best that I do indeed try to sleep

now I'm just wacking my brain back into being normal

[vital marten]

Yeah I don’t know what to say, never done that before

[onyx igloo]

Discord trapped me into watching this 3 times

[burnt kite]

penance

[sacred schooner]

college deadline, 6 hours of classes and caffeine

[vital marten]

Insanity

[onyx igloo]

What did I do to pay penance

[burnt kite]

my tailbone has been hurting for a week now, i think i need to get it checked

[thin wedge]

Your monkey tail is growing

[burnt kite]

nooooo

[thin wedge]

you are going back to monkey

[pale berry]

@burnt kite rate the idea on a scale of Gru to judge holden

[burnt kite]

im a human im the prime species im better im ook ook ook ack ack ack

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/go-back-i-want-to-be-monke-monke-monkey-go-back-i-want-to-be-monkey-i-want-to-go-back-gif-25409692

[candid patio]

greetings

[burnt kite]

king von

[pale berry]

I'm gonna test the waters with the horror map idea first

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-villuminati-greets-and-citation-fine-shyt-huzz-gif-6402868411760556227

[candid patio]

i don't want a citation

[thin wedge]

You gotta give credit

you can't just use that source willy nilly

[burnt kite]

i tried pissing but accidentally activated the sprinkler mode and pissed all over my knees

[onyx igloo]

Hello Gordon!

[chilly quail]

this is the end of truman neal, got lost in the woods after getting decent loot and is now dehydrateed and dying in the middle of the highway

[candid patio]

maybe this?

[candid patio]

??? source???

[thin wedge]

[candid patio]

wtf are you talking about?

[onyx igloo]

what about the Chevrolet Chevy

[azure breach]

You know what they say

Better to be red than to be dead

Redemption

2

[candid patio]

the word "greetings" existed long before internet memes.

[onyx igloo]

its legit the Chevy Chevy

[sacred schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-internet-internet-laugh-gif-5497361540516518507

[candid patio]

my wife asked me not to play that song around her

[sacred schooner]

impossible

[thin wedge]

APA or MLA

or chicago

[candid patio]

i don't have the capacity to deal with you rn man

[candid patio]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cant-you-just-be-normal-youre-weird-stop-it-chill-out-wtf-gif-12213994

[thin wedge]

Bro gonna get hit with plagiarism on the next paper

which citation method are you @toxic relic

[cedar bolt]

Good night ğənɛʁäl_čhɑť

[rain mango]

im a dictionary kinda guy

verging on autism

but not quite

[chilly quail]

Goodnight Brodie sleep well

[neat moat]

https://tenor.com/view/karyl-princess-connect-redive-anime-head-snap-gif-24629792

[cedar bolt]

Gurt..

[rain mango]

weird person

[cedar bolt]

I thought you're a sweetie pie
But you are just an evil dorky neck breaker

[thin wedge]

More like Guh

lmao

[neat moat]

nuuuuu!

[burnt kite]

tyler the eye undulator

[neat moat]

Im a good boy!!!

[cedar bolt]

📸

[neat moat]

cough

meow.

[cedar bolt]

[burnt kite]

good night chat

[chilly quail]

this game is actually giving me a headache

[toxic relic]

Depends but i usually go chicago or ams

[chilly quail]

this may be my largest skill issue in my life

what are the best beginner traits?

[young kelp]

smoker

[chilly quail]

bet

[young kelp]

freeist trait in 41

[rain mango]

high thirst, conspicuous

[young kelp]

there's like 200 cigs in the first gas station you visit

[toxic relic]

siam is popular too, really reliant on the journal and whether or not they have their own mandated style

[rain mango]

outdoorsy and wakeful

[chilly quail]

holy shit

yea ive yet to make it the full 24 hours

i have no survival instict. There is just too many zombies

[rain mango]

bro would die in the apocalypse fosho

[chilly quail]

real life I would blow my shit off smoove

[rain mango]

dont run, walk away and weave through them

thats the skill solution

[chilly quail]

gotcha.

how do u lose them though?

in rosevile or whatever its called te courthouse was PACKED. City area was PACKED. I was stuck resorting to the houses.

[icy vigil]

Happy wednesday

[young kelp]

its packed

[young kelp]

cause its meant to be packed

[chilly quail]

close bro 🔥

[frail shadow]

im okay

as you know

[toxic relic]

bill was doing a bit based on the fact that the gif intentionally used "citation" instead of "salutation"
citation meaning the use of a source with reference to its origin

[frail shadow]

recent events

[thin wedge]

[frail shadow]

shits tough but whateva

[young kelp]

the courthouse iirc is one of the locations in the game that causes a horde event

[chilly quail]

It makes sense but I got zero clue how to raid the city

[chilly quail]

ur fucking kidding 😭

[young kelp]

similar to the office in westpoint

[thin wedge]

free smoker cough

[rain mango]

its a but advanced,
choose an adjacent spot to where u wanna loot,

while walking and shouting, you ball them up

then walk in the opposite direction you want to clear, usually the woods

then make an u turn and stay safe until you can kill properly

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/coughing-fit-cough-gif-15015770

[candid patio]

you have no idea how much i appreciate this

[chilly quail]

thank you. My goal is to make it 24 hours now.

[thin wedge]

[chilly quail]

I will update you along the way. I chose fire officer as my class

[thin wedge]

Mr fartass alway here to explain the joke

[chilly quail]

i have a soft spot for ems 👼

[rain mango]

#pz_b41_chat is the chat you wanna update us with

[chilly quail]

bet dat

[toxic relic]

🤓 calc is slang for calculator for anyone new to the stream

[young kelp]

The ball of death strat

[toxic relic]

but real sometimes people need an explanation

[rain mango]

god it rains for 1 day and the cats decide to use my roof as cover

[young kelp]

feed the cats

also this mannequin is weird

[rain mango]

its a scarecrow

[young kelp]

it scared me thats for sure

[rain mango]

u can fashion it too

[young kelp]

thought it was a zombie in a spot I chose to afk on

[frail shadow]

hitting the nae nae

[neat moat]

hitting castle as we speak

[candid patio]

i don't think bill's flavor of humor is compatible with my flavor of nd

[toxic relic]

fair

[vital marten]

My sister has acquired a labubu.. and has cut the ear off so it will be haunted

She’s in the 4th grade 😭

[candid patio]

i definitely read this as "cut off her ear"

and I was going to ask if i could buy some of her art before she gets famous

(that was a van gogh joke)

[vital marten]

Mhm

[candid patio]

video of a mudslide washing away a tacoma in a tiny little nothing town near my hometown hittin the front page of reddit

that's kinda fun

we used to go there to pick apples

https://old.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/1nlfgm0/mudslide_hits_as_a_man_tries_to_move_his_truck/

pretty impressive mudslide

[vital marten]

Mudslide…

I’m glad I don’t experience anything like this in my area

[thin wedge]

Wrong

the fog

[vital marten]

NOT THE FOG

GOK

[candid patio]

that area gets earthquakes, wildfires, and mudslides, but that's about it

so not too bad

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fog-meme-mrbeast-gif-3883398427955233491

[vital marten]

[sturdy lily]

is this the lace to dump offtopic memes in

[thin wedge]

NO

[sturdy lily]

@grok is this true

[thin wedge]

it literally says in the description

[neat moat]

@gok is this tru?

[candid patio]

the one who ribbits will not like this

[sturdy lily]

ok

[vital marten]

Just make your memes on topic

This is the loophole

You are most welcome

[thin wedge]

real

[neat moat]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-see-something-relatable-diamond-tester-real-gif-12846288982206291367

[vital marten]

Impeccable

[thin wedge]

What happened to elton john

[candid patio]

concern

[sturdy lily]

do you have some ibuprofin i havce a headache

[vital marten]

I bu pro fin hav strok

[candid patio]

ibuprofen is very bad for your stomach, you should take acetaminophen instead.

[thin wedge]

one flintstone gummie should fix that

[vital marten]

No more, no less

[sturdy lily]

what happens if i eat an entire bottle of flinestone gummies

[vital marten]

I laugh at the outcome

[candid patio]

probably bad diarhea and it will burn when you pee for a while

[vital marten]

Remembering chubbyemu no I don’t

[sturdy lily]

it already burns when i pee

[vital marten]

https://youtu.be/mZ6nREONy_4?si=9ZHx_CQmKBqfsxVM

[candid patio]

if genuine and this has been ongoing you probably should seek medical attention

[sturdy lily]

its staire

[candid patio]

i'm not going to attempt to diagnose your burning pee

[frail shadow]

what’re gummy vitamins

[frail shadow]

like vitamins but like

[frosty tulip]

It's sad tire bro

[vital marten]

Exactly

[candid patio]

i think you mean satire, and if that's what you meant, i think you meant facetious.

[frail shadow]

why not take the little pill

[sturdy lily]

ok

[vital marten]

I don’t want to end the matrix

[analog berry]

huh

[wraith bolt]

any tech support on?

[candid patio]

there is a tech support channel. open a thread. they will get back to you in a reasonable amount of time.

[thin wedge]

spicy pee

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-apple-juice-house-md-drinking-house-md-drinking-apple-juice-house-drinking-gif-8345534884560252308

[frosty tulip]

I just go to WebMD for all my medical inquiries

[thin wedge]

🗣️

[frosty tulip]

That's how I found out my sore throat was actually lung cancer

[thin wedge]

are you dying

[frosty tulip]

Yes

[wraith bolt]

everybody clapclapclapclapclapclapclap

[frosty tulip]

Oh hey, the centaur guy

You find em yet?

[wraith bolt]

haterz be real

[vital marten]

Idk why but I’m clapping

[wraith bolt]

so is someone else

[vital marten]

9 billion

[chilly quail]

is there a way I can put the rags over the windows?

[wraith bolt]

i think the rags can be sewn into sheets or curtains

[vital marten]

[chilly quail]

thanks boss

[vital marten]

I just search for sheets

Best of luck

[chilly quail]

thanks bro

[wraith bolt]

i wish I could play =9 been so long

[candid patio]

https://tenor.com/view/dreams-shia-motivation-dont-let-your-dreams-be-dreams-gif-4777431

[wraith bolt]

odd tech issue with the unsntable

[candid patio]

i wish i could apply this to not having dreams when i'm sleeping

[vital marten]

So play 41? I assume that at least works

[wraith bolt]

minipres

[azure breach]

Holy fucking shit this community is ass. I've made eight separate LFG posts in an hour and the only people commenting on them are squeakers and trolls

90% of them are both

[wraith bolt]

41 is kinda blah now

[candid patio]

i had a dream about a political argument with my mom last night and it ended with her pepper spraying me.

[wraith bolt]

legit

[vital marten]

I’ve found 100% of my enjoyment in SP Zomboid I can’t relate on your issues with looking for a group

[candid patio]

I don't know what squeakers are but if you don't like it you don't have to participate.

i'm a part of this community

i don't want to play with you though

[wraith bolt]

lol

[vital marten]

Though I imagine it’s bad because Zomboid doesn’t really feel built for MP, imo

[candid patio]

i have played less than 10 hours of mp and over 1000 hours of sp.

[wraith bolt]

only played sp

mp means people...gross

[candid patio]

the fantasy of being alone in 1993 kentucky is very appealing to me

[vital marten]

The fantasy of being alone is very appealing to me

/j

[frail shadow]

multiplayer zomboid looks kinda wonky

at least pvp

[wraith bolt]

a movie theater all to myself....sigh

[candid patio]

just wanna read some books and learn how to fix cars... forage some berries... learn how to grow crops... that sounds nice.

[vital marten]

Who can get knocked down faster

[thin wedge]

true

[vital marten]

At least that’s what it looks like

[frail shadow]

looks ridiculous

the combat doesn’t translate to pvp properly at all

except guns i guess

[mellow birch]

even that is goofy

pz mp barely works

held together with spit, duct tape and prayers

[vital marten]

Probably needs a new combat system for PvP combat in itself

[mellow birch]

I hope that it gets some significant love before the launch of b42 .v.

[vital marten]

Agreed

[tawdry salmon]

think it is

in 78 years

[mellow birch]

pz is a great game to do in mp though, that aside

nah probably some point next year we’ll get b42

[frail shadow]

yeah if you’re not fighting other players

[candid patio]

https://tenor.com/view/panic-at-the-disco-brendon-urie-music-gif-19047506

[mellow birch]

early in the year if we’re lucky

[frail shadow]

didnt multiplayer take like 8 months to come out in b41 ?

[chilly quail]

i just died to a horde of zombies. thats enough for tonight. There is only so much of this game I can take.

[mellow birch]

something like that

[chilly quail]

I appreciate all the tips yall gave me, its helpeed significantly lol

[mellow birch]

I started playing pz during the iwumbs of b41

[frail shadow]

well they’re not starting over, shouldn’t it be quicker now

[vital marten]

The MP when questions are older than me 😭

[mellow birch]

I don’t recall if mp was out yet lol

wait a second

[tawdry salmon]

wishful thinking

[mellow birch]

it wasn’t

mp wasn’t out in b41 yet when I joined

uhh fuck what year was that

[vital marten]

Afaik you are correct on the 8 months

To the best of my memory

[mellow birch]

causing cancer is the best we can do champ

[vital marten]

No nuclear disarmament?

[frail shadow]

i guess the radiation would also cause cancer

[candid patio]

breathing and chemicals found in most people's drinking water cause cancer

you're cooked mate

[frail shadow]

everything causes cancer

[candid patio]

*we're

[frail shadow]

it’s awesome

[thin wedge]

being human is cancerous

adopt the comfort of steel

[mellow birch]

give the cancer cancer

[thin wedge]

you get cancer cure

[mellow birch]

win

divide and conquer

[thin wedge]

[mellow birch]

life itself is not cancerous

[vital marten]

Hm… what is the most powerful thing on the planet

[mellow birch]

begone misanthropic bum

[mellow birch]

my cockatiel’s will to power

[frail shadow]

is the bird in your picture actually yours

[mellow birch]

yes

[thin wedge]

1.50 costco hot dog

[frail shadow]

i wanted a bird but they’re weirdly sexual

[vital marten]

That’s rad

[mellow birch]

and he is indeed photogenic, is he not? ^v^

[mellow birch]

I haven’t had issues with my birb for that sort of thing

[sacred schooner]

costco rotisserie chicken and costco cheese cake

[mellow birch]

when he gets hormonal he makes me leave him alone

[candid patio]

1 please https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAyiMsA-GEE

[mellow birch]

picks one of his cage toys to declare his undying love to

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-the-hedgehog-inflate-inflation-sonic-x-shadow-gif-16462418038185280921

[vital marten]

A fine weapon of choice

If it’s not a weapon then oops

[thin wedge]

its power to stay at 1.50 is stronger than any metal gear

or psy ops

[gray wren]

@dire mantle How you doing buddy

[vital marten]

Economic ammunition

Into the glizzy gun

[sacred schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/glizzy-glizzy-gobbling-gobbling-bird-sausage-gif-19608457

[chrome jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/poop-train-gif-15347229

[sacred schooner]

ok poop master

[toxic relic]

i am him

the turd master

[vital marten]

I hate to say it but the title doesn’t belong to jadod

The poop master has arrived

[toxic relic]

we truly have reached a point where the philosophy of verisimilitude can be disregarded for raw fact

the shit man has, veritably, arrived

[candid patio]

is the fan on?

[toxic relic]

of course

this is my trick you see

[candid patio]

https://tenor.com/view/hippo-gif-22765585

[toxic relic]

i am the succulent chinese meal

[sacred schooner]

take cover! the gatling poop is shooting

[toxic relic]

im sure chat got the reference

https://tenor.com/view/charles-dozsa-succulent-chinese-meal-gif-11753532

not sure who this man is

but his words are certainly forever in my memory

[neon bramble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5SSnQBtaq4

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-post-rhino-poop-gif-rhino-poop-rhino-pooping-mac-commerical-gif-caption-gif-23884847

[frail shadow]

democracy manifest , , , ,

[candid patio]

i don't understand this reference and you don't understand the difference between a hippo and a rhino.

[thin wedge]

a lot of servers hate that gif

that the context

[candid patio]

get your hand off my penis!

[vital marten]

Watch me put them in the same group anyway

I may never see this animal

[candid patio]

are you saying that you don't like that gif?

[thin wedge]

nah its the other servers

[candid patio]

i don't understand the relevance

and i don't care

[thin wedge]

discordia

[toxic relic]

GENTLEMEN, THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST

[vital marten]

[dawn jewel]

Gok

[vital marten]

Merry are you a pitbull

[thin wedge]

Start digging in yo mutt

twin

[neat moat]

in the folds

[dawn jewel]

Noh its french bulldog

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-pitbull-mene-gif-11295764530201602072

[dawn jewel]

My bro squishy

The baby boy

[neat moat]

nasty

[dawn jewel]

I love my dog

He so handsome

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freak-vro-gang-pibble-gif-10672266169133008030

[dawn jewel]

I call him the handsome man with the handsome plan

[dawn jewel]

PIBBLE

WASH MY BELLAY

CLEAN MY BELLAY

[thin wedge]

how tf you get that on his collar

[vital marten]

Does it really matter if you need a magnifying glass

[dawn jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/986948930740813864/1414547931935014943/cat-oh-the-misery.gif

[vital marten]

Does he drool

I have to know

[neat moat]

yes

[frail shadow]

yes

[neat moat]

castle

[vital marten]

https://tenor.com/view/authority-gif-21006821

[toxic relic]

you have no authority over happy birthday

[neat moat]

wait

where did birthdays come from anyways

[vital marten]

People started counting the winters

Nice try I already have my own scammer at home

[neat moat]

<@&671452400221159444>

[toxic relic]

what the fuck is that

is it the mrbeast scam

[neat moat]

I ain't touching it

[thin wedge]

worst

[toxic relic]

all i see is fucking url text wall

[thin wedge]

its the forbidden word scam

[vital marten]

They don’t get embed perms

[toxic relic]

ik

[vital marten]

Which probably saves most those who would fall for this sort of thing

I say most because I have my doubts

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/overhaul-mha-overhaul-overhaul-mha-bnha-overhaul-overhaul-bnha-gif-10319499458010217054

[toxic relic]

having the curiosity to click those links as well as the blind trust and loose critical thought to buy into it must be a cursed condition

[neat moat]

dont you run this on a virtual computer?

[toxic relic]

you can

im not rn

maybe

[neat moat]

so you just click shit?

[toxic relic]

i dont

re-read my message bruv

[thin wedge]

just rawdog it

[toxic relic]

i think it got lost in translation

[toxic relic]

i rawdog some things but not opsec, buddy

[dawn jewel]

He does

[toxic relic]

some viruses cant be dealt with using antiviral creams

[dawn jewel]

Its super cute

[vital marten]

Idk about cute

[dawn jewel]

He snorts

[neat moat]

what

[dawn jewel]

Its not excessive drool like some dogs

It’s moreof

When he sleeps sometimes hes in a deep sleep and drools

[neat moat]

Arent antibiotics only for bacterial infections?

[toxic relic]

yeah bud wrong word

i wanted to use virus to create an inuuendo

[vital marten]

This is acceptable, if it wasn’t I’d be a hypocrite

[toxic relic]

humour me brother please

[dawn jewel]

LMFAO

[agile cairn]

😂

[toxic relic]

drooling just means you slept good as fuck

[neat moat]

DHMIS season 2 is genuinely good

every episode

[toxic relic]

legendary sleep pull

[toxic relic]

have you watched 12 angry men

or the pitt

[neat moat]

No I wanted to draw but I forgot the shit so Im jusy relaxing for tomorrow

I work tomorrow

[toxic relic]

weekend? do you get 1.5x pay at least

[neat moat]

Im making up time

[candid patio]

is that a thing in your country?

[toxic relic]

yessir

[candid patio]

i also work tomorrow... for regular pay

[neat moat]

I used to work 6 days a week but my boss said I should cut it back, working myself to the bone (plus I was cucking others from hours so)

yeah I work for regular pay too

[toxic relic]

weekend and overtime is always at least 1.5x pay-its unfortunately not enforced by law but it is enforced by unions

should be mandated

[toxic relic]

6 days is insane

[neat moat]

nah

I could have done it

[toxic relic]

i work a lot of overtime but at least i get paid for it

[toxic relic]

dude..its insane

[neat moat]

The job is only till December