general_chat

[subtle vault]

Depends

Is it the more plausible option? Sure. But realistic? No.

There are multiple different "zombifying" things on the planet outside of fungi

And our zombifying fungi lead the corpses of their victims to places where spores can spread easier, not get violent

[rain mango]

yeah the violence part of it made no sense

it was basically rabies mixed with cordyceps

[subtle vault]

I know most zombie behaviours are inspired from rabies, which is a virus

[rain mango]

Ill be back later i have to do irl stuff

https://tenor.com/view/hiroi-kikuri-bocchi-the-rock-kikuri-bye-goodbye-gif-2779273079522200488

[subtle vault]

But if anything were to be as realistic/plausible of a zombie disease I'd argue a parasite is the "most accurate" given their host behaviours and immunoavoidant nature

[fair yacht]

hello friends

[subtle vault]

Or even better, a prion❤️

Imagine if the Devs added prion diseases from eating raw animal meat

[onyx igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-potion-bull-gif-7179579382398416631

[clever latch]

Hey if y'all are wanting a fun event. We're going to be having a huge server wipe event in our server to bring in chapter 3.
DM me.
Come check it out. We're starting at our casino. And ending in your death!
If you can survive it. You'll get some good rewards in our next chapter

[pliant marten]

That'd be so sadistic

[clever latch]

Dude I'm actually working on a mod like that.. hope I can get it ready in next couple weeks

[pliant marten]

It takes months/years to show symptoms from them

[subtle vault]

For things like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's....

Prions from the central nervous system of an animal kills you in a few days to a month at most

[pliant marten]

Oh really? I thought it could take a while

[subtle vault]

Speaking from experience and from studies

[pliant marten]

I might be thinking of genetic prions actually

Like FFI

[subtle vault]

Yes

[lilac quarry]

parkinson's and alzheimers kill in different ways yeah but typically take quite a while

[subtle vault]

Yes, from aggregate formations

Depends on the mutated protein

[lilac quarry]

parkinson's specifically is quite interesting, where the medications prescribed increase in strength until non-functional

yeah tau tangles etc

amyloid plaque formation

[pliant marten]

FFI and KJD can take a long time to appear

[jaunty basin]

hey guys

[subtle vault]

But for mad cow and what not you get those from eating nervous system tissues

[chrome jetty]

Kapow

[pliant marten]

But if you eat a prion it acts a lot faster

[jaunty basin]

what’s the topic of discussion today?

[lilac quarry]

tax evasion

[pliant marten]

Prion diseases apparently

[jaunty basin]

brian prion disease i hear you say?

wonderful!

i’m so glad we’re such a happy bunch

[chrome jetty]

Speaking of Mad cow disease, one of my previous Lab professor came from a place in Italy that had some cases of it, thus he was forbidden from donating blood

[warm atlas]

This is why you are a mod

[pliant marten]

That's horrifying

[lilac quarry]

I teach the team how to do it yes

[pliant marten]

Prions are like the closest thing we have in real life to an evil curse

[subtle vault]

The horrible agony if the Devs added prions to this game and you get to watch your character progressively lose themselves

[lilac quarry]

they hired me as a crime specialist disguised as a moderator

[quasi slate]

crazy 60 minute run

[pliant marten]

They can pass down through generations, they're completely unstoppable, they kill you in horrible sadistic ways

[chrome jetty]

It’s also genetic??

[pliant marten]

It can be

[subtle vault]

They happen spontaneously

[pliant marten]

Familial Fatal Insomnia and Kurtzfeld-Jakob Disease

[chrome jetty]

Never heard of that before

[subtle vault]

You could have one rn and wouldn't even know till years later

[pliant marten]

Familial Fatal Insomnia is exactly what it sounds like, literally like a family curse

One day you stop being able to fall asleep permanently

[chrome jetty]

Ye ik the incubation period is really long

[pliant marten]

And eventually you die

[young kelp]

we all have it

[fair yacht]

fatal insomnia scares me

[pliant marten]

And it doesn't become obvious until well into your life, maybe after you've already had kids

[subtle vault]

New zombie virus dropped!! Prion❤️

[pliant marten]

Meaning they'll have it too

[jaunty basin]

how long do you think it would take for civilisation to actually collapse in a zombie apocalypse in today’s world?

[subtle vault]

Still would be hilarious if the Devs added that in game

[young kelp]

depends if there are gonna be those that are immune to the airborne version of it

otherwise

[pliant marten]

Depends on how it works

[subtle vault]

Only indication that you got it from eating meat is that your movements don't work as commanded

[chrome jetty]

Would you rather die of mad cow disease or ARS

[jaunty basin]

romero zombies

the classic

i’d say 3 months

[chrome jetty]

Romero is walking right,

[young kelp]

are the zombies slow?

[jaunty basin]

until food reserves start to run out for those who haven’t doomprepped

[jaunty basin]

yes

[jaunty basin]

night of the living dead

[young kelp]

They'd probably live a while

[chrome jetty]

Society only has the potential to collapse if they are inexhaustible and can sprint

[subtle vault]

And how does it spread/ what is the source?

[young kelp]

bites

[jaunty basin]

slow, stupid, but surprisingly dextrous zombies that are the recently deceased

[chrome jetty]

All it would take is a mounted machine gun with overlapping fields of fire

[young kelp]

from what I looked at

[jaunty basin]

nope

[subtle vault]

Virus, bacteria, prion, fungus, parasite, radiation, magic, outerspace boogaloo?

[young kelp]

doesn't seem to be airborne tho

[rain mango]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360760781/man-behind-viral-burger-king-foot-lettuce-meme-reportedly-dies

[jaunty basin]

romero zombies are just reanimated corpses via radiation

[chrome jetty]

So how does it spread

Radiation?

[jaunty basin]

basically if anybody dies (may that be torn to death by the horde) then they die normally and get back up a few minutes later as a zombie

[subtle vault]

Because depending on one of these can heavily change outcomes

[jaunty basin]

yeah it’s an old movie lol

[chrome jetty]

Society wouldn’t collapse cuz of that

Most buried corpses are desiccated by now

[subtle vault]

They get the shaun of the dead treatment

[jaunty basin]

https://youtu.be/psdArUrhJSg?si=38YXFk2izGTs4Sm1

[chrome jetty]

even if their skeletons could suddenly move, it still wouldn’t be hard to kill them

[young kelp]

mostlikely the disease type that'd kill the world are airborne ones

no one can be magically immune

[subtle vault]

When do nuclear winters come to PZ because I know there's no one managing the reactors💅

[chrome jetty]

I’d imagine euthanasia would be more prominent

[young kelp]

[jaunty basin]

but due to the nature of this variant of zombie it means all the recently deceased rise

[young kelp]

they'd be deep in the soil tho

[subtle vault]

Yeah what kind virus, fungus, etc?

[chrome jetty]

I still don’t think society would collapse because of it

[jaunty basin]

how recent is recently deceased is unclear

[young kelp]

most graves are also cemented

[jaunty basin]

they still dig out in the movie lol

[chrome jetty]

Can they be killed?

[jaunty basin]

yes

but only if their head or brain is destroyed

[young kelp]

think of fungus like the last of us

[jaunty basin]

they are otherwise unkillable

[chrome jetty]

So they possess super strength and will keep coming unless brain or head is destroyed

[quasi slate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMgP6eHZ4fs

[chrome jetty]

However they are slow, and infection only spreads upon death

[jaunty basin]

i’m not sure about super strength

[subtle vault]

Because the thing with viruses and bacteria is that they rapidly evolve over a short amount of time meaning there is potential for variations and other means of infection once biting starts becoming obsolete

[chrome jetty]

To claw out of the ground from inside of a coffin?

[jaunty basin]

they have regular human strength, which is still pretty damn scary

[subtle vault]

Then we'd be fine

[jaunty basin]

they don’t care if their nails fall out, they’d keep digging

more impervious will than superhuman strength

[chrome jetty]

Yeah but you have to get through wood

[young kelp]

[young kelp]

cement in ours lmao

[chrome jetty]

You can’t just scratch at wood, and expect it to break

Or event cement

[jaunty basin]

if you can think of it like infection

[young kelp]

not all bodies are buried in soil in a wooden casket

[chrome jetty]

Maybe given thousands of years

[young kelp]

some people pay extra to place them in a cement like box

[jaunty basin]

recently deceased, ig

[chrome jetty]

I never watched the movie, but is there a short reanimation time?

[jaunty basin]

a few minutes

[subtle vault]

Me when I open the refrigerator in a morgue❤️

[young kelp]

virus probably gonna be more of a threat

[chrome jetty]

It’s basically TWD zombies with shorter reanimation time, without death upon bite

[jaunty basin]

also, zombies have teeth. they can bite through wood, even if it hurts.

[subtle vault]

Fungi do not evolve as rapidly as them so probably

[rain mango]

most reactors were shut off by the remaining government

its why the power and water go off

the government knew they couldnt beat it

so they tried to preserve the human race

[jaunty basin]

yeah kind of. reanimation time tends to suit the plot though lol

[chrome jetty]

Maybe a parasite would be more deadly. As a parasite can manipulate the host into certain behaviours, whereas a virus needs to destroy the hosts cells to reproduce

[rain mango]

res4

[subtle vault]

That's what I'm saying like

[young kelp]

parasite would need to be water or contact tho

[jaunty basin]

the radiation kind of means it’s like an airborne virus though, but it’s only activated upon death

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-re4-re2-leon-kennedy-leon-s-kennedy-gif-9105685263607712009

[young kelp]

then again water is needed for life

[chrome jetty]

What about malaria? Isn’t that spread through bodily fluids too?

[jaunty basin]

as if it takes the place of the consciousness or something

[chrome jetty]

Like it spreads from mosquitos to people

[subtle vault]

Parasites can be "airborne" (travel on mosquitoes and flies)

[chrome jetty]

Pretty sure malaria is a parasite

[young kelp]

ahh so making use of vectors

[neat moat]

Im a clobbler

I clobble people

[jaunty basin]

wow

[subtle vault]

Then to complete human-human cycle the parasite eggs would likely remain in zombie saliva and they would be hydrophobic (as to not swallow their saliva) which would lead to easy travel into blood stream into the brain

[rain mango]

you should play the plague making game

[subtle vault]

I do that irl

[rain mango]

plague inc

[subtle vault]

My specialist is within biotechnology and disease

[chrome jetty]

wait i just looked it up

malaria cannot spread person to person

wild

[subtle vault]

Tweaking out rn because I love disease

[chrome jetty]

I love diseases an stuff too

[jaunty basin]

that’s not good

[subtle vault]

I'm studying them

[young kelp]

iirc there's an afterstory

the goal of the game

[subtle vault]

They're so cool

[young kelp]

is to restart civilization

after it barely survived the disease

[pliant marten]

Wait, really?

Not even from fluid exchange?

How come?

[chrome jetty]

atleast thats what it says on WHO's website

[jaunty basin]

mozzies

[pliant marten]

Does it need to germinate inside the mosquito first?

[chrome jetty]

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria

[jaunty basin]

they carry the blood

[pliant marten]

Oh I know mosquitoes carry it

But how come it can't pass from person to person?

[jaunty basin]

idk

[pliant marten]

Okay I checked - it can spread from fluid contact but it's very rare and generally not very efficient

[young kelp]

it probably can through blood hence why its not allowed to donate once infected or something

[pliant marten]

Mosquitoes are the only common way it can spread

[subtle vault]

Scabies 😍

[chrome jetty]

For a project in college, we had the ambitious idea of proposing a research pathway that tailors towards analysis of spike proteins of pathogens that are able to infect humans, bats, and whatnot to see if there is a potential that a particular strain can cross species

it was alot of fun to do

[karmic jetty]

a coronavirus...

[pliant marten]

That sounds very fun for the right kind of nerd

[pliant marten]

Apparently if you're extremely unlucky you can get it from a donated organ

[spiral condor]

playing fortnite blitz rn
i fucking love the shockwave hammer

[pliant marten]

Imagine being that unlucky

[chrome jetty]

Apologies for the low resolution image, but these are the spike protiens for multiple strains, and we superimposed them to see how similar they are

[young kelp]

corona sales dropped due to the virus

[karmic jetty]

silly strings

[young kelp]

because people are stoopid and thought it was the source

[pliant marten]

Biological pocket headphones

[subtle vault]

Gorgeous❤️

[young kelp]

[karmic jetty]

short corona stocks

infinite clams

[chrome jetty]

we also did it with coronavirus strain

[karmic jetty]

!!!!

u did this

it was all u

[chrome jetty]

Yea

[karmic jetty]

[chrome jetty]

Idr how exactly we did it

[pliant marten]

England strain
Human strain
I knew it

[karmic jetty]

how could u take our precious years away

[chrome jetty]

hehehehe

There was a mutation, and apparently it was enough to warrant its own sequencing

[pliant marten]

I figured but its an easy joke lol

[subtle vault]

Love the structures

How many bio Majors are in this server❤️

[chrome jetty]

When we did the report it was three of us, i accidently ended up doing like 70% of the work just cuz it was interesting

[pliant marten]

You sound like a great person to consult once TIS adds NPCs and needs writers

[jaunty basin]

can you explain the funny shapes to me like i’m 5

[pliant marten]

The inevitable "scientist who's researching a vaccine" character

[chrome jetty]

It is the stucture of a spike protien for various coronavirus strains. A spike protien is what allows cell to cell connection

[pliant marten]

It's one of those cliches where you always see it but it'd be weirder to not have it because it's just such a logical thing to have happen

[jaunty basin]

a 5 year old would look at you confusedly, giggle, then cry, then waddle off and eat glue

[chrome jetty]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/DQ022305 (Bat SARS complete genome)

we would get the whole genome and figure out what correlates to the spike protein

Idr how we did it, since it was so long ago

[subtle vault]

I love gene sequencing it's so fun

[jaunty basin]

still lost

whag is a genome

[chrome jetty]

Kapow

[subtle vault]

The code that makes you, you

[pliant marten]

I hope they consult actual scientists because if they start talking about techno babble that doesn't make sense you're living proof that somebody will notice

[chrome jetty]

this cool stuff

[jaunty basin]

ooh i’ve seen that before

[pliant marten]

The totality of your DNA

[jaunty basin]

so how does that correlate to the funny shapes

[pliant marten]

The "instructions" your cells follow to build you and make you work

[jaunty basin]

i get that

[subtle vault]

See I want to know if zombie viruses change parts of the human genome because there are MANY viruses that do that

[pliant marten]

Retroviruses

[subtle vault]

Clearly it evades the immune system, smh give us more science 🙏🙏🙏

[jaunty basin]

i’d suggest that it would function like the zombie ant virus

[pliant marten]

Those are proteins, which are the building blocks of basically everything inside your body, and every other body, included disease-causing viruses and bacteria

[jaunty basin]

ohh i see

and they are in that shape because…?

[pliant marten]

I actually don't know, smarter people chime in?

[subtle vault]

I'm actively working towards the bioengineering of different viruses and parasites to treat autoimmune disorders, this chat brings me joy

[pliant marten]

The thing about proteins is that they can fold into incredibly complicated shapes and the slightest changes to the way that they fold can dramatically change their properties, so understanding how that folding works is both extremely important and extremely difficult

(is that a good layman explanation)

(just checking)

[chrome jetty]

Physics, entropy, protein folding uhh and some other weird stuff

[jaunty basin]

hmm

[subtle vault]

There are 4 structures to proteins, and each structure makes a different shape, that makes the protein do its special job

[jaunty basin]

i see

[chrome jetty]

Its been a long time since i took that course, so idk to much abt it anymore

[subtle vault]

And each structure has a different way it connects

[jaunty basin]

and it forms more complex structures like that protein when there’s loads of instructions?

[subtle vault]

Yes!

[jaunty basin]

i see

[subtle vault]

This is probably confusing because you're learning this backwards

[chrome jetty]

Anything u "learnt" from this discussion is also flawed since you dont understand the basics

[pliant marten]

Think about your intestines, if they were laid out end to end they'd be longer than a tennis court

But since they're folded up and balled up, they fit in your stomach

[chrome jetty]

Like u cant understand it unless u understand the basics

[pliant marten]

Proteins gotta do the same thing

[subtle vault]

And none of us explained the basics

[chrome jetty]

I dont remember the basics lol

[subtle vault]

We were applying advanced knowledge to a fictional illness

[chrome jetty]

its been awhile

[subtle vault]

I know the basics 🤪

[jaunty basin]

nah ik bits of this stuff i just enjoy acting stupid so i can get a more foundational understanding

[subtle vault]

But that's only because of my major

[pliant marten]

Sorry no, tennis court is too long

More like a bus

Still long but not that long lol

[jaunty basin]

i can tell you that planes fly, but i can’t tell you why planes fly

[subtle vault]

I love that

[pliant marten]

I love seeing people who love learning

[subtle vault]

I need to make a project on phagocytosis

[pliant marten]

It's getting more important these days

[subtle vault]

And I have to make a video that explains it as simply as possible while being fun

[chrome jetty]

the plane pushes on the ground below it, the ground below it pushes back

idk myself

lol

[jaunty basin]

i’ve heard this explanation before and it doesn’t really quite make sense

[subtle vault]

The plane does not concern itself with gravity

[pliant marten]

The layman way to understand it - the wings are structured in such a way that more air flows underneath them than over them, which lifts it up

[chrome jetty]

aerodynamics is a scary thing

[jaunty basin]

that’s just about as much as i can understand haha

[pliant marten]

It just piles more and more air underneath it to go up

It needs a lot of fuel and running space to get off the ground, but once it's off the ground it stays up there comfortably

[jaunty basin]

mhm

[subtle vault]

In a zombie apocalypse, I 100% would be one of said scientists burdened with the knowledge of no solution and could explain why in a video tape

[pliant marten]

You don't really need to know more unless you're an aeoronotic engineer lol

[subtle vault]

And then would die shortly after

[pliant marten]

I hope TIS consults you for the NPC patch

[subtle vault]

Do they chat here?

[jaunty basin]

i still want to. i don’t like the idea that basic foundational concepts are too difficult for most to grasp, so we just assume it’s magic

[pliant marten]

That's the spirit

Lemme find something a little more in-depth

[pliant marten]

Don't know, haven't been here long

[subtle vault]

I would love to volunteer and discuss

[chrome jetty]

sometimes, but its usually just amazingsully. Nasko used to pop in from time to time but havent seen him in a minute

[subtle vault]

It would be funny to be behind a piece of dialect because I went insane over all the nitty gritty details of a fictional disease and its progression

With 2 other members in the same server lol

[pliant marten]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg0TXNXgz-w

Here's a good video that goes into more detail while being easy to follow

@jaunty basin

[subtle vault]

I know in PZ the Zeds were spontaneous but it would be interesting to have an npc avidly saying

"I've never seen anything like this, nothing works. Immune response failure, resistance to UV, I've watch it replicate over and over under my microscope... I couldn't save anyone..."

I think that would induce panic in a player to speak to an npc like that

[pliant marten]

Hell yeah

[subtle vault]

A scientist wracked with guilt who worked with a team to stop this? Great npc

Or gone completely insane from the guilt would be interesting too

[pliant marten]

Can't have a zombie story without at least a few scientist characters

[subtle vault]

I love it when scientist characters are extremely depressed in these series or have gone insane desperately trying to find a cure

Because as the apocalypse continues, there's less and less resources to use for research (microscopy, centrifuge chambers, purifying solutions, etc.) Which only adds more to the desperation and sense of loss

[pliant marten]

There's an enormous research center somewhere on the map, it'd be so cool to see what can go on in there once we have NPCs

[subtle vault]

This would be a compelling NPC to add especially if interactions with them resulted in panic

[pliant marten]

More interactions in the game should result in panic imo

Like I get that listening to the radio/watching tv should lower it, mechanically

But realistically if my character was listening to news that the outside world is collapsing they should be losing their shit

[subtle vault]

Literally lol

[frail radish]

kinda like dr jenner from twd

[subtle vault]

Ya

[pliant marten]

Could create a really good flavor thing where the player might change the channel to something more pleasant and distracting

Then all the channels divert to news about the apocalypse

[subtle vault]

It'd be cool if this researcher NPC muttered to themselves too, going on about things like "what if I had used this solution... If only I ran more trials... Did heat really reverse some of the cells? Or have I really lost my mind?" I think it'd add to the unease

[jaunty basin]

cheers man

i like that PZ uses a virus

it’s the most common explanation for zombies nowadays

[pliant marten]

It makes sense

Prions go for the brain but they're not contagious

You need to eat nervous tissue to get it in your system

[burnt kite]

I DONT HAVE KURU I DONT HAVE KURU I DONT HAVE KURU

[subtle vault]

UV light is generally accepted to kill viruses, it be interesting exploring that as impossible in PZ.

[pliant marten]

Viruses also feel very "alien" and just suit something that seems supernatural like zombification

They're not alive by most metrics - I actually didn't know until recently that they don't move at all

Not metabolism, no movement

They just float through air/water until they happen to land on your cells

[burnt kite]

It could have been the reason for as to why the airborne strand mostly died off

[pliant marten]

And just get their jobs done by sheer numbers

[subtle vault]

Well, deactivates and severely hinders and kills them

[pliant marten]

They inject into your cells because they have a "spring-loaded" trap to get them inside you, but it's not because they can move and use energy

[subtle vault]

Maybe researcher NPC can mention that, UV light and the Knox Virus

[pliant marten]

They're like mousetraps, you set them and wait

[jaunty basin]

how does the zombie ant fungus affect the brain specifically? i feel like that’s the closest thing we have IRL and i’m not quite sure how it manages to interface with the ant’s brain

[pliant marten]

That I do not know

Good question

[subtle vault]

So basically

I'm gonna take awhile to write this

[jaunty basin]

i like to ask good questions

[graceful dust]

https://tenor.com/view/springtrap-sturdy-gif-5598742388546306018

[pliant marten]

Please take a while, I love learning

[pliant marten]

Walked into that one lmao

[jaunty basin]

to not only attain my own knowledge, but also to provoke questions from others

[graceful dust]

i dont even like fnaf & saw it

i gotta read up on this convo tho hold on

lemme pretend i might have someth to contribute

[jaunty basin]

i’m also curious as to if Night of the Living Dead could have any verifiable claim to its own explanation of zombie existence

the in-movie explanation is simply that radiation supplants the consciousness of mostly-functioning bodies without one (i.e. recently dead people)

[pliant marten]

Honestly I think a closer real-life analogue to zombification than brain fungus is rabies

[jaunty basin]

ooh yeah

[pliant marten]

But it's also a good demonstration of why a standard movie zombie apocalypse could never happen

Biting is the least efficient way to spread a disease

Rabies is a 99.99999% guaranteed kill once you're symptomatic

But it's very obvious if something is infected, so you stay away

[jaunty basin]

scary stuff

[pliant marten]

Scariest shit, seriously

[burnt kite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1394746721380335657/1395389914236977273/birdbrain-teto.gif

[pliant marten]

If it spread in a more efficient way it'd legitimately be the apocalypse

But it's kept in place by being bite-only

[graceful dust]

iirc there is only like 1 or 2 ppl known to have survived rabies w/o getting treatment in time & they were very much not unscathed

like that girl was in a coma

i think

[jaunty basin]

also, i think maybe something to do with more general disease/open wounds might be of note? zombies are often portrayed as being bloodied and wounded, so would that suggest a bloodborne pathogen?

i.e. you get bitten, therefore open wound, then saliva/blood/airborne virus gets into the wound and does its thang

[subtle vault]

Unlike mammals, ants don't have a complex central nervous system. A fungus on the otherhand, has a rather complex network. The exact process of HOW this works isn't fully understood by scientists but some theorize that it's acting more on the ants "muscle system" to lead it to higher ground, a trait that is found in almost all zombifying fungi as they need wind to carry their spores.

To try and answer your question as directly and honestly as possible, the fungal network likely grows over top of the ants nervous and muscular systems and sends its own signals throughout the body to manipulate movement (chemical signals most likely) in order to get the ant to continue its path towards higher ground. Most arthropods move through more simple processes which makes it easier for a fungi to manipulate.

[pliant marten]

That's absolutely horrific

The fungus isn't sentient and it can't see, so it doesn't "know" where "up" is

[jaunty basin]

ohh i see

[pliant marten]

But the signal for "go up, by any means necessary" is coded into it

Or like, the buttons to press

[jaunty basin]

ahhh

[subtle vault]

Oh you'd be surprised

[jaunty basin]

definetly WWZ zombie vibes

[pliant marten]

It can't look around the environment to intelligently decide the best path to go up, so I'm assuming it just sends a generic "up" command and the ant does its best

[subtle vault]

Fungi are VERY complex. They're actually more closely related to animals than plants on a cellular level

[pliant marten]

Oh I know funguses are scarily complex

It's just important not to anthropomorphize too much

[graceful dust]

theres no zombie children in pz universe & while theres like, meta reasons (too depressing) its hard not to imagine the knox virus outright killing ppl with weaker immune systems instead of turning them. idr if we get to hear anything abt non-zombie deaths from illness in The Lore™ tho

[subtle vault]

Even plants know to go up, you'd be surprised what these other living things process and understand through chemical signals lol

[pliant marten]

True, true

[graceful dust]

sense of direction is innate in many things

like yea plants

[subtle vault]

We get to be the non-zombie deaths

[pliant marten]

Right, yeah

[graceful dust]

ur mom is a non-zombie idk

[pliant marten]

What I mean is, it doesn't observe the environment to determine a specific path

[loud needle]

now i want a mod that adds zombie children like in Dying Light

[pliant marten]

It just brainwashes the ant's sense of direction to "Everywhere should be up"

Or something like that

[subtle vault]

The cave spider fungus also does that

[pliant marten]

"Ignore all previous instructions, up is the only right way to go"

[subtle vault]

It will essentially manipulate its host until it senses some sort of light, warmth, etc.

[pliant marten]

I imagine in a lab they can test to see what it looks for

[subtle vault]

Which is why if irl a fungus ever actually infected humans and made a "fungal zombie apocalypse" they wouldn't even attack you, the mouldy humans would wander to the highest ground they could to release spores and collapse

[pliant marten]

Horrifying

[subtle vault]

Wear a gas mask and shower before going to bed aah apocalypse

[burnt kite]

Maybe with the airborne strand came different types of the infection, like there is bubonic, pneumonic and septicemic plague

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-chat-bubble-gif-15529978361673547987

[graceful dust]

some creatures that r born blind still know which direction they have to go. like arent tasmanian devils born blind... & theyre SO small & they have to crawl to the mothers pouch themselves

[burnt kite]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-nikke-goddess-of-victory-doro-gif-17327124434392458870

[subtle vault]

They'd be cool to watch though lowkey

[loud needle]

wasn't there like a movie or creepypasta about that exact scenario? this sounds mad familiar

[subtle vault]

Wouldn't doubt it

[pliant marten]

Another brainwashing pathogen that feels reminiscent of zombification is Toxoplasma gondii, which is a parasite that tricks mice and rats into being attracted to the scent of cats instead of afraid of them

[graceful dust]

i mean we've all done it

[pliant marten]

Simple switcheroo that can trick even a complicated mammal brain

[graceful dust]

brains r sensitive like that

[subtle vault]

Like if you want some crazy aggressive necrotic zombie illness it's likely going to be either a parasite or virus

[graceful dust]

brains r honestly so badly built u can fuck them up rly easily thank god for skulls

[pliant marten]

Imagine if they just need us to develop during a very particular part of their life cycle then they peace out

[subtle vault]

We are brains in meat suits

[jaunty basin]

from the looks of things, romero zombies are basically just humans with radiation poisoning, but it leaves a bit of a question mark. the movie suggests that it was space radiation, so potentially a coded wave that could (somehow) rewrite the brain’s chemistry and allow it to be controlled by a new set of rules, similar to the zombie ant fungus. all the visual stuff, like stiff movement, and peeling flesh, and stuff, is just side effects of radiation

[jaunty basin]

zombies caused by aliens!

[pliant marten]

Destroying human society just to create the parasite equivalent of a high school

[jaunty basin]

alien fungus rays…

[graceful dust]

ok thanks. IM honestly so badly built thank god for skulls

[pliant marten]

I mean they couldn't really do their job if they were tough lol

[graceful dust]

theyre not good at that either

but whatever its the hand we're dealt

[subtle vault]

We get anxiety attacks over pieces of paper being perceived as threats

[pliant marten]

It's better to be safe and alive than correct lol

[subtle vault]

My favourite

[graceful dust]

constant stress kills u faster tho

[pliant marten]

Assume everything that looks like it could be dangerous is dangerous and you're more likely to pass on your genes

[young kelp]

Core keeper update, first boss killed

[pliant marten]

Never mind that those instincts just cause problems nowadays

[graceful dust]

untrue in the modern day

[jaunty basin]

i mean, it’s pretty well known that waves can have complex information stored on it, but it’s just the matter of that being picked up by the brain

[pliant marten]

Evolution doesn't care as long as you live long enough to procreate lol

[subtle vault]

Someone clearly doesn't want to play tag with sprinters

[pliant marten]

Ye that's why I said "Never mind that those instincts just cause problems nowadays"

[graceful dust]

it is simply not very intelligently designed one could say

[pliant marten]

We're not hunting and gathering in jungles anymore

[jaunty basin]

i’m using very loose pseudosci-fi here but maybe it’s the lack of a consciousness that allows the brain to absorb these rays and start recording the brain?

[pliant marten]

It does its best lol

[jaunty basin]

after all, consciousness is a bit of a ghost in the machine

[subtle vault]

I don't know if brains are designed to pick up wavelengths outside of visible light through the eyes

[jaunty basin]

that’s the thing i was pondering

[subtle vault]

But we do, however, pick up hormones

[jaunty basin]

ooh

hmm

i’m really trying to make the stupid 60s movie explanation work

isn’t that just the rage virus from 28 days later tho?

isn’t that hormonal?

[graceful dust]

radiation in fiction back then was treated like it can do whatever the hell u want it to do

[subtle vault]

No idea

[graceful dust]

it can make u into a superhero or a zombie depending on the day

[subtle vault]

And we love it and eat it up everytime

[graceful dust]

we should!

[subtle vault]

Radiation in irl burns your shadow to buildings and gives you cancer anyway

[pliant marten]

It's also one of those things in nature that kinda feels like evil magic

[jaunty basin]

totally, but i’m trying to put a spin on it that’s plausible haha

[pliant marten]

Even if you understand it it still feels like that

[jaunty basin]

same as the zombie disease trope of nowadays

[subtle vault]

Crystal girls gonna love this one

[pliant marten]

The warnings they put on radiation hazards can feel like "Beware the ancient curse" kinda ominous shit

[subtle vault]

I love uranium, my beloved magical rock from outer space

[graceful dust]

no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here

[dim cloak]

Mom made a "Peruvian" dish tonight

[frail shadow]

tell your mother i miss her

[pliant marten]

That looks like the fried rice I serve at the deli I work at

With some meat chunks

[subtle vault]

Looks delicious

[pliant marten]

Yeah you enjoy it ^^

[dim cloak]

yk she's almost 60 right

[dim cloak]

not fried

boiled.

[frail shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-groundhog-eating-gif-27654631

[dim cloak]

boiled white rice

[jaunty basin]

i don’t like that you know so much about disease but also work at a place that serves food. it worries me.

[subtle vault]

Zeds are gonna love this one (I clip both sides of a car battery to a uranium rod I found)

[dim cloak]

yeah, i'm not a kid. I'm 26

[pliant marten]

Would you rather I work with food and not know so much about diseases?

[dim cloak]

would tjat even do anything?

[subtle vault]

My jobs would probably disturb you too

[jaunty basin]

hmm. i’m not sure. it just makes me think you’re up to something

[jaunty basin]

oh no

[pliant marten]

Mweheheheheh

[dim cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/uganda-knuckles-knuckles-oh-no-gif-11056773

[subtle vault]

And I do lab work at my uni, I'm being trained to observe and discover

[jaunty basin]

ohh, okay. that’s good.

[subtle vault]

How to... manipulate and alter

[dim cloak]

not what i wanted but close enough to the SA1 soundbyte

[dim cloak]

sounds cool

[jaunty basin]

okay. that’s still neat. it’s only when you start working with the outside world that worries me

[subtle vault]

Viruses are so cool, beloved androids designed to ruin your day

[jaunty basin]

that’s like having a degree in chemistry and working as a postman

like totally not suspicious at all

[subtle vault]

Life when I get a job at a food place

[jaunty basin]

it’s a scary combo

that’s all i mean

[subtle vault]

I used to

It's always fun❤️

[jaunty basin]

an academic field that focuses on a form of life that thrives in unclean environments and a job that demands clean environments to prevent the former

[subtle vault]

I can understand you being afraid of that especially with someone like me

Given I'm trying to bioengineer new viral and parasitic species to treat incurable ailments

[dim cloak]

so are bacteriophages imo

[subtle vault]

I especially love those ones

[dim cloak]

they look almost like what i imagine nanobots to look like

[jaunty basin]

can you engineer a zombie virus to kill cancer please

[subtle vault]

Yeah sure, I'll damn all of humanity just for you 🙏🤪

[jaunty basin]

so then we don’t have cancer and everybody can live out their apocalypse power fantasy

two birds one stone

[dim cloak]

wtf i looked up cancer cure on yt and found this
https://youtu.be/kpcZ4g7b9-k?si=JuDK7ikX7mkli1jW

[jaunty basin]

wow

[young kelp]

nah make use of cancer

to make the zombie virus

replicate much faster

[subtle vault]

G-virus

[dim cloak]

bioweaponize

[dim cloak]

or in our case, C-virus

[subtle vault]

I would get the Birkin treatment if I EVER did that 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[young kelp]

also I still don't understand the lore of this game

it used to just be zombies

but now blue got in

blue is the new zombie color

[dim cloak]

wdym by birkin

[jaunty basin]

why does it jiggle

[young kelp]

recoil absorbent

[jaunty basin]

i don’t think that’s how it works

[subtle vault]

The year is 2043, and out of some sick sadistic joke a scientist created a zombie virus just so a group of PZ players could finally live out their apocalyptic dreams.

I would be merked

[jaunty basin]

it’s not a car suspension

[dim cloak]

high school of the dead would beg to differ

[subtle vault]

William Birkin, a character from resident evil

[dim cloak]

ah. never played RE other than a bit of village

[subtle vault]

Fair

[dim cloak]

btw opinion on Roanoke Gamings take on diseases in movies

[subtle vault]

I can't remember if I watched that

I probably did once upon a time

[dim cloak]

not a specific video

[subtle vault]

I don't think I have then

[dim cloak]

https://youtu.be/e6e85-bTBAU?si=supMaLwFI2uIa7_B
this is one of them. basically he breaks down how the body works to explain how plausible diseases depicted in movies can be

[subtle vault]

Ah thank you!

[onyx igloo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/974312495554646096/1395908612072669227/image.png?ex=687c28b3&is=687ad733&hm=3ab9e5f99c3dfca9c74af2e80498dbf872926e122d7dc354883627e990e6403d&

[young kelp]

Did he do one on Maze runner

[dim cloak]

it's interesting, as he claims to have a background in, i think microbiology?

[subtle vault]

Shiiiii

I'm in that yippeee

[dim cloak]

https://youtu.be/0mm0aq5Q2_g?si=Sa6gHMsAQJUqQemy

[jaunty basin]

hey sean how’s it hanging

[young kelp]

[dim cloak]

i wanna gonna say

that comment is fartface-level

[jaunty basin]

i wanna gonna say

[subtle vault]

Almost time to hop on PZ, and end up killing myself from something completely preventable❤️

[dim cloak]

ngl i want Roanoke to do one on the Knox Virus. He occasionally does video game diseases but not often

[neon bramble]

balls

[rain mango]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-blush-happy-kikuri-alcohol-gif-12491919666988702222

[jaunty basin]

you will always be able to learn from your mistakes

[rain mango]

woo death

woo

[jaunty basin]

hello cake

[dim cloak]

fishsoup? is that you?

[subtle vault]

I 100% would not survive a zombie apocalypse irl for everyone's information🙏

[dim cloak]

same

[subtle vault]

I am not that guy

[young kelp]

nah

[neon bramble]

do you even want to

[young kelp]

why try to survive

[jaunty basin]

how

[young kelp]

Become the reason

[subtle vault]

How do you guys think you'd die in a zombie apocalypse

[young kelp]

on how it started

much cooler to be patient 0

than a guy that died on the side

[jaunty basin]

trip over a fence and scrape my knee

[young kelp]

[neon bramble]

like nuclear war the lucky mfers are the ones that get atomized or shredded by glass when the bombs fall

[jaunty basin]

who wants to hear my zombie apocalypse badass death ride

[dim cloak]

if you were patient 0, how can you spread it if you're taken out by non-incompatent people?

[frail radish]

depends on if the zombies can sprint or just walk

[rain mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136501320340209664/1392892474451820625/jrlploq4dxbf1.gif

[young kelp]

if you become sick, don't go to the hospital cause its expensive and just go on with your day meeting people and what not

let it slowly spread until your body breaks down and forced into a hospital to further spread it

[dim cloak]

true

[young kelp]

until eventually the people you got in contact with start showing the same symptoms

[neon bramble]

imagine getting mugged by some basement dweller with a questionable flamethrower drone within the first 2 weeks

[subtle vault]

Despite that I am knowledgeable on edible and medicinal wild fauna, can fish, hunt, build structures, etc. And have scientific knowledge that could benefit towards a potential cure/ prevention measures....

I would most likely die from another survivor or clumsiness

[neon bramble]

he dosen't even give a fuck if it works properly or not cause it's going to be funny for him either way

[dim cloak]

unless you were exposed to it via military experiments. then you would most likely be taken out before you can spread it veryfar

experimentation on you i mean

[jaunty basin]

i would get a big red double decker bus and put one of those plough things they put on trains on the front and also put spikes on the wheels and stuff. it would be like a big mobile base and eventually i could chuck some big machine guns on the top to get a height advantage at all times

[jaunty basin]

interesting

[subtle vault]

I would 100% be the person who sees an impaled zombie, laughs saying, "wow! I'd hate to be that guy!" And immediately trip on my own feet right into it

[dim cloak]

imagine dying a konosuba-like death. stupidly.

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-ko-no-su-ba-konosuba-3-aqua-goddess-gif-13358315513520882934

[young kelp]

make matters worse, the zombie was infact still alive and slowly biting you

[subtle vault]

I'm so extremely clumsy it's not funny. Even though I'm good at creeping around quietly, I'd likely scare another survivor doing that and get my head blown off

[subtle vault]

That would 100% happen

[dim cloak]

same. i used to trip on grass somehow

i'm also terrible at being stealthy

i prefer to do things loudly, depending

loud n' proud!

[subtle vault]

I'd also be the type of person who injures their hand, wraps up the open wound, but then falls forward with my hand plunging right into the corpse of the zombie in front of me

[dim cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/gunshot-shooting-firing-gun-fire-guns-gif-5640798

[dim cloak]

and somehow get infected through bad luck in food choice

[subtle vault]

I do not do such things, I walk around very quietly everywhere and unfortunately scare the shit out of everyone. This will result in me getting filled with lead by accident

[dim cloak]

i try to be quiet and fail to. so i embrace my loudness

[last spoke]

We're certified in remote first-aid
I feel like that counts for something

[subtle vault]

"Oh I broke my fall!"

"In the corpse of a zombie..."

[last spoke]

:3

[jaunty basin]

i would be the guy who gets bitten but doesn’t tell the group and when somebody notices turns on everybody with a gun in a desperate attempt to do something interesting right before they turn into a zombie

[dim cloak]

lol

[jaunty basin]

like an asshole

[dim cloak]

i want a zombie movie that ends with the mc being saved by the zombie horde somehow. like, idk, an alien invasion starts too.

[jaunty basin]

haha, that’s a fun idea

[subtle vault]

My most likely demise is tripping forward, getting impaled, and my face nibbled and scratched because my silly self can't stop tripping

If I don't get killed by a survivor first

[dim cloak]

like somehow even the zombies understand there'll be no food, or increasing numbers, if all of humanity is erased, with no trace, via alien-caused erasure

[subtle vault]

Or "Yeah this water looks safe to swim across, why do I feel a hand on my ankle."

[jaunty basin]

interesting

the real question is

what is your weapon of choice?

[dim cloak]

imagine that your zombie form is somehow more graceful than when you were alive

[subtle vault]

It's the little things guys 🙏😭

[jaunty basin]

given you don’t have to worry about maintenance or ammo. just based of pure badassery.

[last spoke]

🟣One would think Mrp likes short blade, but actually no. Crowbars

🟣Just... doink

[dim cloak]

if i have a choice of anything from any zombie media... def the shotgun-assault rifle combo weapon from Dead Rising

[jaunty basin]

ooh. i don’t thinking i’ve heard it

[subtle vault]

The secondhand embarrassment I would feel if my zombie self was still clumsy like GET UP OFF THE CONCRETE AND GET THAT SURVIVOR 🙏😭😭😭😭

[dim cloak]

that thing was op af in the games. switching between assault rifle round and shotgun shell PER PULL OF THE TRIGGER

[jaunty basin]

sounds insane

[dim cloak]

Dead Rising was insane

https://tenor.com/view/police-tricycle-zombie-dead-rising-dead-rising-2-gif-15014657507982576109

[jaunty basin]

idk it that well

[dim cloak]

basically imagine RE but the zombies aren't a threat. like at all. it's the people trapped with you that go insane that are the most life-threatening

[subtle vault]

If I had to have a weapon of choice that was meant for the purposes of "pure badassery" zombie-tooth brass knuckles ❤️

[flat flame]

WhatsUp lads

[jaunty basin]

lmao sounds fun

[subtle vault]

This punch is infectious!🤪

[jaunty basin]

hell yeah

[dim cloak]

hi

[flat flame]

Hi mate

[dim cloak]

it is, it's just fairly difficult

[flat flame]

Whatcha doin

[dim cloak]

other than 3. fuck the 4th one tho

[flat flame]

Why not sleeping

[dim cloak]

nothing. just chattin

[dim cloak]

bc it's only 7:45p/19:45 here

[naive flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-jonah-gif-15461738203592622393

Ahhh life

Life

[flat flame]

Relatable

[subtle vault]

Enamel is pretty strong anyways, plus it would probably be fucking terrifying meeting a person who... removed teeth from a zed solely to create a blunt weapon that infects you from punching

[flat flame]

https://tenor.com/view/drive-nightcall-film-ryan-gosling-gif-23819304

[subtle vault]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crazy-crazy-emoji-emoji-crazy-emoji-are-you-crazy-gif-17566518746599549444

[last spoke]

Ya girl eepy

[subtle vault]

Type of person

[last spoke]

[subtle vault]

Sleep

[last spoke]

No

I just woke up

[subtle vault]

Rest is bountiful❤️

Oh

[jaunty basin]

i think my full zombie loadout would look something like-
longarm: remington bolt-action rifle
sidearm: .357 magnum revolver
melee: fire axe

[rain mango]

I am evilz

[jaunty basin]

then if i had a stationary base i’d set up as many M2s as i could get my hands on

[subtle vault]

"Today, we are using a zombies spine—"

[last spoke]

You couldn't hurt a fly
I'm pretty sure I've seen you try

[jaunty basin]

yeah that’d be the body of my axe

or even just use it as a flail

sharpen the bits of bone

[rain mango]

i will destroy u

[last spoke]

You'd never get close

[flat flame]

Ever tried papa Chad m113 mod?

M2's on m113 os working

[jaunty basin]

i’ve never tried any PZ mods

yet

[rain mango]

Destruction

[subtle vault]

Me when I get executed by my fellow survivors for lacing my knife with zombie blood when fighting our rival group🙏❤️

[flat flame]

You should

[jaunty basin]

i’m just not really sure where to start yk

[flat flame]

Zomboid without mods is like food without seasoning

[flat flame]

First? Some quality of life mods

Or ki5 cars

[flat flame]

Best mods ever tbh

[jaunty basin]

i still have a lot of fun

[last spoke]

(You never used the knife in the fight, but on the way to start the attack you used it to cut an apple)

[fair yacht]

Hiiii!

[thin wedge]

[jaunty basin]

boo

[flat flame]

Actually happy to hear it. For me vanilla pz is just not it

[thin wedge]

Get a load of this guy

[flat flame]

I can make a load just for you babe

[jaunty basin]

yeah it’s always just a struggle to get through those first 15 minutes or so

because of my custom setting

[flat flame]

I still can't get over vanilla cars and weapons durability

[thin wedge]

another "mods fix everything" mofo

[jaunty basin]

what’s wrong with it?

[flat flame]

Bruh I just enjoy playing with mods more

Chill

[subtle vault]

I wouldn't do such a thing💔

[flat flame]

Car enthusiast, love them animations and 3d models

[jaunty basin]

ahh i see

i’ve never gotten as far as using cars, yet

[subtle vault]

I love leaving the car door open❤️

[flat flame]

Inviting them zombies huh

[subtle vault]

Remember to put the generators INSIDE your house, that way the zeds don't hear it🙏❤️

[jaunty basin]

and leave the oven on when you’re cooking stuff so you can multitask

[subtle vault]

Yeah we chill like that

[jaunty basin]

read xp books while cooking

[subtle vault]

See you get it🙏❤️

The zeds don't come for me because they know the virus would be wasted on such a useless host🙏❤️

[flat flame]

Damn why can't I gamble in pz

[last spoke]

🟣Cars really aren't that bad to get going. People seem to assume you need hotwiring skill and to get them into tiptop shape, but really, so many of them actually have keys, it's not hard to find one if you keep an eye out

[jaunty basin]

you can gamble with your life

[last spoke]

🟣"Keep an eye out" says the half blind one-

[flat flame]

Best first car - m1 abrams

[flat flame]

Too low stake

[thin wedge]

Avoid zombies too hard

[subtle vault]

Guys when you play with the deaf trait, the Devs made sure you'd never run into any house alarms, making a much safer and easier playthrough🙏❤️

[thin wedge]

[jaunty basin]

you can gamble with the lives of others

[obtuse cove]

fattie

[flat flame]

Damn man you're fun at them parties aren't ya

[flat flame]

That's better

Hmmm

[jaunty basin]

i don’t see much point in using cars anyway, i just stock up on food and take a big hike

[neon bramble]

its not that bad

[flat flame]

Should I open pz casino?

[neon bramble]

just go outside and see if the zombies suddenly feel invited to join you

[subtle vault]

Yes

[flat flame]

You can move them furnaces with car

[subtle vault]

They can't get enough of me❤️

[thin wedge]

The #pz_b42_chat is two channel up if you can't handle the general chatia.

[jaunty basin]

what furnaces

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/discordia-discordian-discordian-drama-gif-27029881

[flat flame]

Antique stove. Best item in pz

[jaunty basin]

i got no need for it

i got my canned food

i’m happy

[flat flame]

Don't make me get another ban in here

[chrome jetty]

kapow

[chrome jetty]

!ban @flat flame

[subtle vault]

We're literally the most popular people in Knoxville

[flat flame]

Damn

Got jadoded

[subtle vault]

Zeds always want my autograph 🙏❤️

[flat flame]

More like a walkingraph

[subtle vault]

True💔

[thin wedge]

Shiver me timber

im quaking

[flat flame]

Bimber me .. nah

Not today

[neon bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-orb-gif-26002992

[neat moat]

quake 4

[thin wedge]

Mini mods do be rampant today.

[thin wedge]

goated

[flat flame]

Mini mods?

[neon bramble]

I love RPG decision paralysis

[neat moat]

im quaking it rn

[neon bramble]

so many toys, not enough party slots

[subtle vault]

The Zeds love it when I host raves

[flat flame]

Like dwarf mods?

Midget mods?

[subtle vault]

No, house alarms🙏

[jaunty basin]

how much ammo should i need to start using guns?

[subtle vault]

10 bullets max🙏

[tender igloo]

nuh uh

[chrome jetty]

JESUS CHRIST

[thin wedge]

Go back to unreal tournament puppers

[flat flame]

At least 4

[thin wedge]

quake will alway be king

[jaunty basin]

why am i getting such tiny numbers

[tender igloo]

quake arena with the eyeball

[neon bramble]

do you not have the old man

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/quake-shambler-breakdancing-fps-retro-gif-997193488590050617

[jaunty basin]

shouldn’t i need like

[chrome jetty]

Huh

[jaunty basin]

thousands of rounds to even think about it

[neon bramble]

Mk1 Onslaught

[subtle vault]

Just spam Q so that it activates the hidden ammo glitch

[tender igloo]

quake still look great for it age too

[subtle vault]

Trust🙏

[thin wedge]

your done vro

log out

[neon bramble]

people call it grandpa onslaught

[thin wedge]

🥀

[jaunty basin]

in one of my runs i had so much ammo it took up like half of my encumbrance weight and i didn’t fire a single round

[subtle vault]

That hurts to read

[chrome jetty]

HUH

huh?

whats that

[neon bramble]

I'll take that as a no

[subtle vault]

Almost as much as using the sledgehammer on single zombies and breaking it ❤️

[neon bramble]

yeah that thing as an alpha core so it will burn drive towards you until you die

[chrome jetty]

I have a decent fleet

[onyx igloo]

i cant read my headstone cause im GHOULISH

[chrome jetty]

doubt its good enough tho

[tender igloo]

the giant crowbar is the best slapper now

[chrome jetty]

Just found these nearby

[tender igloo]

uh if you have high strength

[chrome jetty]

Dmods are shit tho

[subtle vault]

The zeds do not concern themselves with my ridiculous demeanor

[thin wedge]

puppers do be playing with extra points

[tender igloo]

ew no i dont lol

[neon bramble]

I'm impressed you got there without getting the mk1

[chrome jetty]

Should i recover it?

[tender igloo]

i play with disorganized and reluctant fighter

[neat moat]

puppers self insert

[chrome jetty]

idek what that is

[tender igloo]

and slow learner sometimes

[flat flame]

Ew

[neat moat]

definitely self insert

[last spoke]

I'm super floppy rn

[neon bramble]

if you get anything related to a planetologist you should prioritize that

[chrome jetty]

Oh this?

[neon bramble]

o ye

[flat flame]

Oh no

[neon bramble]

is that in your fleet

[tender igloo]

I DID NOT come to to bullygeneral to get bullied

[chrome jetty]

Looks sexy

nah its not

[tender igloo]

this is why i love pz chat

[neat moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-limp-flaccid-floppy-elephant-gif-4995903

[onyx igloo]

bully you

[chrome jetty]

This is my fleet, although idk if im gonna keep the one i just found

[flat flame]

You bully yourself just enough, no need in sidework

[chrome jetty]

I have enough credits to restore it but i like my current ship

[flat flame]

What is that

[neon bramble]

you have some interesting eagle builds

[neat moat]

set up a prison camp colony

[tender igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[neat moat]

youll make bank

[neon bramble]

for the love of god ditch the taclasers

they suck donkey balls

[chrome jetty]

Eagle?

[onyx igloo]

regal..????

[neat moat]

bagle

[neon bramble]

this hurts my soul

[chrome jetty]

I was using them for the 1k rangew

Idk what else to put in small laser

[neon bramble]

get graviton beams or the EMP beam

[chrome jetty]

This is my ship

I like it

[flat flame]

Ugly ship

[last spoke]

Yeah well are you snugged up in bed rn surrounded by plushies and blankies?

Didn't think so, nerd

[neon bramble]

graviton is a decent anti-shield support and the EMP can arc through ships with high flux, both are at 1k range

[neon bramble]

I'm gaming while tucked in blankies

[quartz thorn]

Catching strays

This came out of no where

[neon bramble]

no plushies though

got me there

[flat flame]

Mummy

[chrome jetty]

so what would u recommend? 3 gravition?

[neon bramble]

depends

1 or 2 is not a bad idea

[quartz thorn]

Has anyone here had dinamitas?

[neon bramble]

2 grav, 1 Ion beam is a good start

as for the smalls, PD/LR PD are usually what I see

burst PD if you're running sexmags

[flat flame]

Who

[neon bramble]

this is ok, good job

could be better but I think you did good here

[neat moat]

yeah come in this deep dark cave

I have some extra for you

[neon bramble]

I recommend you pick up the non-pirate version

AAF is amazing

[neat moat]

Oh I thought you said dynamite

[quartz thorn]

Please send coordinates

[thin wedge]

jam pack god damn

[quartz thorn]

I'm chronically addicted

[neat moat]

well I have that too

[chrome jetty]

This?

[chrome jetty]

Its good. and since more often then not i end up geting to close then i like having chaingun

Plus i have 2 reapers per socket

[neon bramble]

do you have integrated targeting unit

[flat flame]

Corneroids better

[neon bramble]

you should use that if you have it when possible

[chrome jetty]

I find this ship has shit armor so i was thinking of bumping shields

[chrome jetty]

Ye

[neon bramble]

they're the same, ITU is just a better version of DTU

[chrome jetty]

Mmhm i got that one

[neon bramble]

+50-60% range w/ cruisers is huge

range is generally quite good

[chrome jetty]

What if i swap the front LR PD laser for an IR pulse?

I would be taking one capacitor off

[flat flame]

Yo guys

[chrome jetty]

whats that

[neon bramble]

typically, basic shipbuilding wants you to focus on the ship's primary range bracket

[sacred schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/moose-canada-ice-gif-5684546

[onyx igloo]

bro tripped

[flat flame]

Does anyone randomly sell fur coat in Europe?

Big retro one

[neon bramble]

so if you're rocking a bunch of 1k range weapons that's OP and diss used on a weapon you won't use too often

[onyx igloo]

probably

[chrome jetty]

True

[onyx igloo]

alot of people in europe

[flat flame]

Spaceship building game

[neon bramble]

would IR pulses help your damage output? sure but having range-boosted PD can help the rest of your fleet

[flat flame]

Nodhit

[onyx igloo]

nodhit

[chrome jetty]

I find during combat my fleet scatters everywhere, its kinda annoying since they sometimes get picked off

[flat flame]

Sorry, I'm drinking at work

[neon bramble]

my typical strat is to lay down 3 defen waypoints roughly where I want my fleet to set up

[onyx igloo]

you dont drive a lorry right

[flat flame]

What's lorry lol

[onyx igloo]

truck

big truck

[flat flame]

Oh hell nah

[chrome jetty]

Also, would u say this ship is worth restoring ? its like 400k

[sacred schooner]

mmm, you could either get yourself a military surplus winter coat or a reproduction

[onyx igloo]

neither any medical field i hope lol

[flat flame]

You won't see me behind truck wheel

No way in hell

[neon bramble]

something like that, adjust waypoints as the battle goes on

[chrome jetty]

ahh okay

[flat flame]

I don't hate people that much

[neon bramble]

adjust waypoints forward and backwards to retreat/push

[flat flame]

No no, like PIMP FUR COAT

[chrome jetty]

I also have this, but i have no clue what to do lol

[neon bramble]

ofc your fleet needs to gain momentum to actually push

[flat flame]

It's not related to my profession lmao

Kind of

[neon bramble]

its ok, XIV variant of the eagle is nice

dominator is a gun brick

it's good at what it does that said I personally dont use it cause it dosen't suit my tactics

[chrome jetty]

i dont really have tactics

[neon bramble]

switch up it's weapons to have Kinetics and HE

[flat flame]

I just really want pimp coat for my birthday

[neon bramble]

HAGs are good though

[sacred schooner]

if it's just for the looks, amazon probably has what you want for a cheaper price than any luxury store that are bound to sell that kind of stuff

[chrome jetty]

I just use my burn drive to take initiative, then go to where fighting is the heaviest to provide support

[neon bramble]

you'll figure something out

[flat flame]

Imma check it

[neon bramble]

honestly my tactics boil down to hammering the enemy as hard as possible as quickly as possible

[flat flame]

Damn, now that I'm thinking

[neon bramble]

all the violence at one spot

[sacred schooner]

though I give that kind of coat a 1/10 for canadian winters

[flat flame]

My work is getting advantage of people's sins too

Damn

[flat flame]

How cold is it here?

[sacred schooner]

yes

[neon bramble]

the details are in who I kill first and which flank I want to hold on my own

[flat flame]

Oh I need to take a Canada trip

I need it

[chrome jetty]

Ahh okay

[flat flame]

In my leopard pimp coat

[sacred schooner]

plenty of places to visit, but avoid visiting the east coast during january, febuary, and overall during july and august

[flat flame]

Why?

Damn I'm starving for a good travel

Haven't left my country for like 3 years already

[sacred schooner]

the east coast can get very cold and will see very large amounts of snow during the peak of winter

[flat flame]

At least I have a decent job

[sacred schooner]

and summer is well... summer

hot as heck

[subtle vault]

You should go to Québec

[flat flame]

Sounds lovely to sit by a fireplace

[flat flame]

Should I really?

[chrome jetty]

Look what i just found

[subtle vault]

Yes 🙏

Very beautiful

[sacred schooner]

well yes but when it's -10, not -35

[subtle vault]

Rich in culture

[sacred schooner]

rich in poutines

[subtle vault]

Highly reccomend Montreal

[neon bramble]

my only other comments are

[flat flame]

I loved the Norway vibe. Is it similar to canada?

[neon bramble]

fit the champion for brawling and get a sunder to mount that tach lance

I'm a huge fan of Escort Package Sunders w/ beams

[subtle vault]

Eh in a way

[neon bramble]

any more is too backseating lmao

[subtle vault]

Depends on where you go in Canada

Majority of its cities are shitholes that I don't recommend

[flat flame]

Cold and weird locals