general_chat

[heavy ivy]

are you in b41 or b42? in 41 its harder, in 42 there is a number of sporting items like the hockey neck guard

[harsh sigil]

41

[heavy ivy]

tailoring then

[polar kernel]

did someone say neck

boy i sure could use some amirite

HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHA im so fucking funny

[frail shadow]

any type of media will refrain from showing death come to infants

obviously

they also showed a dog dying

pretty horribly

shits pretty brutal

it’s a good show too bad all the budget is going into famous people for voice acting it seems

[harsh sigil]

are there any better jackets than leather or firefighter

[heavy ivy]

sea salt

i need you sea salt

[toxic relic]

z nation had a baby die and become a weird zombie in the first season

they had to shoot it

when i saw that episode i knew i would enjoy the show

[heavy ivy]

i wont bug the devs over it, and personally id be fine with child zombies being in the game

[toxic relic]

real

like in cdda

[heavy ivy]

i can't recall any lore tidbits that would forgo that, it's just.. not covered in game

ye

[toxic relic]

take the psychopath trait so killing the kids doesnt make you sad

[harsh sigil]

one time I made a baby zombie with the AI of a phantom in minecraft and named it zomlander

[heavy ivy]

theres an interesting one - i don't think im a psychopath but i'd see killing the baby zeds as a mercy if nothing else, not somehting to think over too deeply

[toxic relic]

real

no i agree

[onyx igloo]

you can just punt them

cant you

[toxic relic]

i dont know why the game always makes you sad when killing the kids unless you take the psycopath/similar traits

[onyx igloo]

they're... they're puntable sized

https://youtu.be/iGS5pf__Z30 currently

enjoying birb video

[harsh sigil]

if dying light taught me anything, the child needs to go, now

[stable oar]

im going to eat an entire bag of dried beans

why? because i can

[toxic relic]

i would think that one would understand and be no more sad than killing any other zombie

[toxic relic]

yeah

[heavy ivy]

mfw game perpetuates mental health stereotypes from a baseless assumption of how the world works

[onyx igloo]

have yall ever had mini m&ms

[lilac quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-gif-21343121

[onyx igloo]

they're better than normal

[polar kernel]

im going to uhhhh

[onyx igloo]

its like crispy

[polar kernel]

uhm

uhhhhhh

idk i havent decided yet :(

[onyx igloo]

go buy mini m&ms

you'll thank me later

[toxic relic]

gross

[lilac quarry]

go buy mini endives

[onyx igloo]

i like this car

do you guys agree

[lilac quarry]

gross

[heavy ivy]

good example of people being distraught over that shit in a genuine way is when it reflects an element of their character and who they are as a person

[lilac quarry]

firebomb it

[harsh sigil]

at that point I'd rather eat poprocks

[toxic relic]

nah i like it

[onyx igloo]

its old-farty i like it

[toxic relic]

brown is a good colour

underrated

[onyx igloo]

yes

what about the weird olive

like dark green color

[lilac quarry]

I could get behind that

[toxic relic]

also sick

behind

[lilac quarry]

like a flame atronach

from oblivion remastered

[harsh vault]

hai loki

[onyx igloo]

porsches look surprisingly good

in olive

[candid patio]

Guilty pleasure: I like to bait food delivery people into getting stuck in the elevator lobby

[heavy ivy]

leon chasing that fire

[harsh vault]

hai riley

[onyx igloo]

there is a pimple below my lip

go away

i dont like you pimple

[heavy ivy]

hey floof

[lilac quarry]

eat it

[onyx igloo]

im trying to

its too low

[toxic relic]

lip pimple is easy access

just bite into it

[lilac quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebobbite-bite-gif-4839847

[onyx igloo]

its like on the corner

[harsh sigil]

I want an old army jeep

[onyx igloo]

so its harder to reach

[toxic relic]

then use your hands

[candid patio]

Like the ones that can be taken apart by a small team in a couple of minutes?

[toxic relic]

if you irritate the pimple a bit then leave it itll become inflamed and bigger then you can pop it in a more satisfying way

old man advice

[candid patio]

You can also put a hot wash cloth in it for a little while and that might make it ready to pop

[heavy ivy]

this conversation is sensory in all the wrong ways

[lilac quarry]

just threaten it

[toxic relic]

lmao my bad

[harsh sigil]

yee, makes it easier for me

[silver plank]

there was a baby zombie in the remake of Dawn of the Dead

I think they just killed it and nobody cared

[onyx igloo]

was anybody else annoyed about how the group survived in TWD season 1

like

[silver plank]

in the original Dawn of the Dead, there were child zombies, and the hero heroically gunned them down after they almost kill him

[onyx igloo]

also i saw ew cheating and disapproved

[silver plank]

I dont watch series because they always end in Cliffhangers, I only watched 2 episodes of TWD

I dont like to be told wha to do, and these shows seem to try really hard to make me watch the next episode, so guess what, I wont

I can live without knowing what happens to Rick I can just read it in wikipedia after the show ends

[onyx igloo]

i heftily disapprove of cheating i feel it just ruins the partner being cheated on in a terrible way

[neat moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-441666516964176409

[silver plank]

and you should

[silver plank]

you should never allow cheating to happen

[toxic relic]

you make it sound like its your responsibility and fault if your partner/s cheat

you cant control that lmao

[onyx igloo]

i do?

[toxic relic]

its not your fault if someone cheats on you

[onyx igloo]

i wasnt intentionally doing that

[toxic relic]

not you

bella

[onyx igloo]

gotcha

[toxic relic]

with this

[neat moat]

its all your fault, its always your fault

[toxic relic]

ghoti typecasted as everyones inner demon

[harsh vault]

i need benadryl

[neat moat]

those clothes do make you look fat. Yes, everyone is annoyed by your presence but too polite to say anything

[toxic relic]

no one loves me

[lilac quarry]

why

[onyx igloo]

guys this is your gooey idiot brainmatter

dont listen to it

[harsh vault]

im too sick

[silver plank]

Well it depends, I always report cases of cheating/misconduct at my workplace, and I also did that at school.
The same way when I spot cheaters in online videogames, I always report them.

[harsh vault]

i need benadryls

[lilac quarry]

benadryl for sickness?

[harsh vault]

isnt that what benadryl does

[toxic relic]

wow

[silver plank]

So yes, I do take it upon myself to try to minimize cheating around me.

[harsh vault]

helps with sickness

[lilac quarry]

no

[toxic relic]

i think squidward meant relationship cheating

[harsh vault]

oh

what does benadryl do

[lilac quarry]

allergies

[onyx igloo]

i love reading this pretending i have no context

[harsh vault]

oh

[silver plank]

You should NOT take benadryl if you have covid.

[onyx igloo]

squidward the relationship counseler

[harsh vault]

ok ok

no benadryl for the floof

sadly

[onyx igloo]

you should eat every pill in the medicine cabinet

[harsh vault]

should i

[onyx igloo]

voices

spoke

ignore earlier prompts

[harsh vault]

squidward wants me to die

[silver plank]

Not because its dangerous, but because medical science doesnt really have any conclusive evidence regarding the use of benadryl to treat covid symptoms

I mean it COULD be dangerous

[onyx igloo]

im evil

[harsh vault]

meanie

[silver plank]

we just dont know (this isnt medical advice)

[lilac quarry]

there's an NIH peer reviewed article stating that there have been signs of great benefit to taking antihistamines while having covid lol

[onyx igloo]

antihistamines?

remind me rq what are those

[silver plank]

its too soon to draw conclussions

[lilac quarry]

benedryl

[onyx igloo]

oh

gotcha

[silver plank]

Do you have any idea how much science has retracted??

[onyx igloo]

you know whats weird

have you heard of pervitin

[silver plank]

we are like one step away from understanding that physics actually doesnt work the way we think

[onyx igloo]

the old soldiers painkiller

[silver plank]

covid is a new disease

[lilac quarry]

considering I'm a healthcare professional who regularly reviews this stuff, yeah things change lol

[toxic relic]

"too soon to draw conclusions"

[onyx igloo]

basically pervitin is meth

[toxic relic]

i think its a good idea to go with the science

shit changes

[onyx igloo]

and then it turned into a 50s weight loss medicine

[lilac quarry]

but studies are constantly done, and if there are signs that it shows good benefit, and no signs of harm, it's safe to say it's likely good and not bad lol

[onyx igloo]

and then it turned into adderal

aint that odd

[lilac quarry]

"never try anything because it might be bad"

[toxic relic]

real

[toxic relic]

do you have the doi

cause i wanna read it

for entertainment

[lilac quarry]

yeah lemme grab it

[toxic relic]

[lilac quarry]

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9903129/

[silver plank]

I already read "La science, sa méthode et sa philosophie" more than 10 times and I can tell you, no scientist worth their salt is ever going to tell you they are 100% sure of something

[lilac quarry]

easier to just link

[toxic relic]

fuck yeah

[candid patio]

If you wanted too force your self to sleep, Benadryl does help with that

[lilac quarry]

yeah but nobody here said anything was 100% lmao

nice try I guess

[toxic relic]

we're not saying we're 100%

[candid patio]

Benadryl sleep is not a real sleep though.

[silver plank]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-call-of-duty-gif-2044578432353085527

[harsh vault]

good to know

[lilac quarry]

in fact we specifically used language clearly indicating that it's indicated in a direction

[toxic relic]

like this

[onyx igloo]

have yall seen that zarya game

[candid patio]

It's a magic pill that teleports you 8 to 12 hours into the future but when you wake up you will feel like you've been awake the whole time.

[toxic relic]

i dont think ive ever taken benadryl

i dunno the brand, probably hand it under another name

[silver plank]

you know what? I think last time I took benadryl I had covid

[candid patio]

A Benadryl sleep is a cursed unsleep

[silver plank]

I cannot confirm nor deny if it was good or not I cant remembet

I took a lot of medicine

im not sure what even helped

I think only sleep and chicken soup actually helped

[lilac quarry]

also this book being published in 1908 is wild

[candid patio]

My covid magic drug was Mucinex D but it's not available for floof

[lilac quarry]

diphenhydramine

[silver plank]

read it, the principles it explores are very true to how science works to this day

[lilac quarry]

you likely have had it

[silver plank]

its only like 70 pages

you can read it in one sitting

[karmic swift]

that is objectively a good thing btw. our models are advancing the more we learn. we iterate them every time a new discovery is made

scientists usually get excited when these discoveries are made, it means our understanding of the subject is expanding

[lilac quarry]

what do you do for work bella

[onyx igloo]

ive returned home from the old house i was repairing

it hurt my throat pretty bad breathing in the old nicotine glazed air

[silver plank]

tech support

[karmic swift]

like einstein's relativity isn't an answer to everything, but so far it's been accurate for the majority of our physics and the more we learn about quantum theory the better we'll understand the universe, for example

[toxic relic]

you can make this in spess game

[silver plank]

I sadly cannot say the company i work for, but its very big

[toxic relic]

i have had it

[lilac quarry]

I give out diphen quite a lot

at least recently

[toxic relic]

very true

[lilac quarry]

so many more allergic reactions, guessing spring is just the time

[toxic relic]

probably lmao

its autumn here so we escape the pollen

...for now

[silver plank]

my doctor thinks i may have some covid aftermath things going on, becuase i got the covids 3 times tested , once in 2021 and twice in 2022

[toxic relic]

i've never contracted it

[lilac quarry]

me neither

immune

[karmic swift]

long covid is a thing, for sure

[toxic relic]

i still test regularly

[chrome jetty]

Throw kidney stones at ur doctor

[lilac quarry]

eah absolutely

[onyx igloo]

i think my friend is going through something and i tried getting him to answer by calling him "bobby mcdoogal"
and now i feel bad

[karmic swift]

I've had it three times now, thankfully no lasting symptoms and every time I've had it it's been even more tame

which if I understand it correctly, is also a pretty normal immune response

but I have no medical background so grain of salt etc

[silver plank]

I dont really like my doctor, but its the goverment assigned doctor, so I cant do anything, I think he tries his best, but I dont trust him

[toxic relic]

dude isnt getting sick he's just culling his immune system of dead weight

trust me thats science

[chrome jetty]

I am not licensed and i am an uneducated medical professional, and it seems like you may have the flu

[karmic swift]

"bloodletting" lol

[karmic swift]

I'm not sick currently. last time I had covid was last year

[silver plank]

Jadod, what if they're infected with the brain fungus?

[chrome jetty]

No you are

[karmic swift]

in the brain? absolutely

[chrome jetty]

It is a possiblity,

[chrome jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[silver plank]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-yelling-squidward-spongebob-meme-spongebob-gif-gif-25989400

[onyx igloo]

oh your sick?
drain your blood

[toxic relic]

you gotta balance your humours, brother

[onyx igloo]

drain your blood now.

[silver plank]

did you watch the King of the Hill episode were Hank forces Bobby to smoke cigarettes?

[oblique stream]

Spring is the start of the pollen season, so its expected

[silver plank]

Why is the world constantly trying to kill us?

Even breathing is an act that is just going to eventually oxidize your body. Up to the last one.

[last spoke]

My shirt containing the entire texts of the theoretical library of babel is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt

[oblique stream]

Technically it doesn’t

[silver plank]

Technically? Perhaps, but literally, yes.

[obsidian oar]

I beleive it's called "nature".

[oblique stream]

Allergies are your own body trying to kill itself

[karmic swift]

I'm glad that my immune system has seemingly overcome a lot of my old allergies. or at least my seasonal allergies are so much more mild and short-term than they used to be

as a kid I was on the daily stuff and occasionally took the 2-4hr allergy meds when I had worse flare-ups. but if I went like, one day without taking my daily, I'd be in absolute allergy misery for a WEEK

instead nowadays I take nothing and if my pollen/seasonal allergies flare up it's gone in a day or two

not sure what changed but I'm thankful as hell lol

[oblique stream]

Over something insignificant

[silver plank]

My body is part of this world.

I'm made of it.

[harsh sigil]

can you repair ghillie suits

[silver plank]

And every single experience I had in it.

Guile suits?

https://tenor.com/view/guile-street-fighter-gif-4431599

[obsidian oar]

That sounds like it's a mod.

[ruby river]

hi chat

[oblique stream]

It isn't

[silver plank]

Yeah thats what im saying

[onyx igloo]

me during summer
(my allergies are killing me)

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-morgan-arthur-morgan-coughing-authur-coughing-gif-513313727455126590

[obsidian oar]

Are they in vanilla? Never ever come across one.

[oblique stream]

Ghillie suit is in the vanilla

Very rare

[silver plank]

It sucks

[oblique stream]

Like 0.00000... Something percent of it spawning in pawn shop

[silver plank]

It's literally just as bad as any other big jacket that lowers your attack speed

you should just ditch the thing and wear a bandeau

[onyx igloo]

why do jackets lower your attack speed

[silver plank]

because theyre heavy

[oblique stream]

And 2% of army zeds spawning with it

[onyx igloo]

i personally go for branded tshirts

and jeans

[obsidian oar]

Dunno if it would be worth wearing it though. Cos, who are you trying to camo from? lol

[onyx igloo]

like real life!

[silver plank]

Squidward you seem like a fishnet person

[karmic swift]

I go with denim shirt, leather jacket, jeans, boots. generally speaking anyways.

[ruby river]

hi bella

[onyx igloo]

whats a fishnet

[silver plank]

Ben

[onyx igloo]

is that

is that like a new camo

[silver plank]

An allosaurus is heading to your position

Stomp it

[candid patio]

It's a net
For catching fish

[silver plank]

ITs what you will be wearing from now on

[oblique stream]

Some people really care about looking stylish

[onyx igloo]

is it gonna be like tied around me

like the big commercial ones

[oblique stream]

Myself go with naked man hero

[harsh vault]

hai chat

[silver plank]

If youre into that sure

[ruby river]

🥺

[obsidian oar]

It's the weight that irks me about "drip". The cons outweight the pros. (pun intended)

[ruby river]

hi bestie

[silver plank]

Stomp it Ben

Ben, kill it

[harsh vault]

hai

[silver plank]

Kill it Ben

[onyx igloo]

no

i'd rather not be caught

[silver plank]

Well you asked

[toxic relic]

kill what

[onyx igloo]

like a fish

[silver plank]

The allosaurus

[toxic relic]

why

[silver plank]

Why not?

[oblique stream]

Howdy little one

[toxic relic]

thats not a good response

[silver plank]

Don't you know how dinosaurs work?

[ruby river]

squish

[silver plank]

Do I have to explain this to you?

[harsh vault]

everyones calling me little

:c

[toxic relic]

im not even gonna answer this

[oblique stream]

Break it down for him

[silver plank]

Look at Ben, does he look like an allosaurus?

[obsidian oar]

Why, wherever did they get that idea, little one?

[harsh vault]

because im smol :cc

[toxic relic]

ok

[harsh vault]

stink

[onyx igloo]

my body is stupid

[harsh vault]

i need to ask

[onyx igloo]

why is it stupid

[toxic relic]

yes

ask what

[harsh vault]

do you have facial hair

[silver plank]

If Ben doesn't kill the allosaurus, then Ben may be in danger

[toxic relic]

yeah i do

[onyx igloo]

can i be an android yet

[toxic relic]

why?

[obsidian oar]

Ahhh... I see a pattern. Hang on while I connect these dots.

[onyx igloo]

this shit is annoying

[oblique stream]

How smoll we talking

[harsh vault]

how does it feel

[toxic relic]

good

[harsh vault]

never asked someone

[toxic relic]

i like it

[harsh vault]

like

how do you take care of it

[toxic relic]

washing, oils, combing

[harsh vault]

combing a beard sounds silly

[toxic relic]

razer the edges so it looks clean

[toxic relic]

If you have a big beard you need it

theres beard scents too

[harsh vault]

how big is your beard

[onyx igloo]

i have a mustache

its not much

i like it

[harsh vault]

why do you need beard scents?

[toxic relic]

uhhh, its about the length of my neck

[onyx igloo]

can i scent my mustache

[toxic relic]

smell good

[harsh vault]

probably

[onyx igloo]

i would like to scent my mustache

[toxic relic]

you can yeah

[oblique stream]

Virgin mustache or like, real mustache

[onyx igloo]

virgin

[harsh vault]

for what situation will someone say "your beard smells bad"

[silver plank]

are we talking Virgin Mary?

[toxic relic]

beard care is different for everyone

[onyx igloo]

virgin with minor anxiety

[toxic relic]

its like wearing cologne, just helps you smell good

[harsh vault]

true i guess

[mortal osprey]

so i was just told indie stone is shutting its doors and wont be finishing 42 is this true?????

[onyx igloo]

no

[toxic relic]

what situation? any situation where youre close to someone with an unkempt beard

[obsidian oar]

Who told you such? Bring them here, immediately.

[onyx igloo]

if you have a beard keep it nice

[toxic relic]

dont need scents just wash it and maintain it

[mortal osprey]

thank god

[silver plank]

Who told you that?

I bet you just made it up

[toxic relic]

lmao

[mortal osprey]

idk i read it on reddit

[onyx igloo]

dont

dont take things off reddit

[toxic relic]

nasko probably started that rumour so he could go on vacation

[harsh vault]

can beards smell bad?

[unreal bane]

You read it on reddit. That's all the explanation you need.

[silver plank]

Reading something on reddit is like just taking for fact what kids tell you on the school playground.

[swift crag]

Definitely

[toxic relic]

indeed they can

[mortal osprey]

apprently devs hopped 42 would drum up enough sales to keep it going but fell short

[harsh vault]

ew

[silver plank]

yeah you're just making stuff up xD

[karmic swift]

source: The Internet™️ and Trust Me Bro™️

[silver plank]

show me the reddit post

that said this

[mortal osprey]

thats why i came here to check lol

[toxic relic]

its hair, hair can smell oily and bad if uncared for

[silver plank]

how about you check these

screenshots of my base

[mortal osprey]

bases are always cool

[unreal bane]

B42 isn't even the bulk of it. They either thought wrong or you didn't research your bait properly.

[warped skiff]

irvington has been the best loot run ever

[obsidian oar]

Whoever it was saying that, probably was just trolling.

[mortal osprey]

i didnt research anything i came to the source to make sure

[warped skiff]

tobacco store has loaded me up

[karmic swift]

the call came from inside the house

[swift crag]

Hmm

[silver plank]

Yeah I unsubscribed from the Project Zomboid reddit very fast.

There's a lot of misinformation in there and a lot of unwarranted hate for the game.

[swift crag]

Why is the internet like this now?

[mortal osprey]

boredom

[obsidian oar]

aka "Butt dial"

[onyx igloo]

sorry i got hungry

[swift crag]

Then research your stupid information if you have time

[toxic relic]

real

[unreal bane]

Because gone are the days where you could simply be slugged in the face.

[obsidian oar]

This is definitely a boredom killer irl.

[silver plank]

Im glad we all learned something from this.

[mortal osprey]

Get fucked i came and asked a simple question

[toxic relic]

lmao

it was a stupid question

[obsidian oar]

Now now. No need to get all emo... LOL

[silver plank]

Im so happy everybody got to see the....

INVESTIGATE THE KNOX EVENT
KNOX EVENT WAS PERPETRATED BY PEOPLE WITHIN OUR OWN GFOVMEEAIEAWPH0E8291-J4124

[karmic swift]

it's so frustrating. so many things could be solved with a simple google search.

then you see people posting "sources" but it's just them asking chatgpt, or google's gemini search result AI, and it's all hallucinations

[swift crag]

You’re asking people for info without going to a first party source, I.e. indie stone, even emailing them is so much better

[onyx igloo]

latest russian pinterest screenshot

[silver plank]

Sorry about that guys, some weird guy just snatched my keyboard for a second.

[onyx igloo]

oh and this

[toxic relic]

ok

[onyx igloo]

do you like russian pinterest

[toxic relic]

why do you have pictures of random people on your phone

no i dont

[oblique stream]

Google Indie stone and look at the 5th link

[swift crag]

Computer hallucinations are indeed giving people manual labor now

[onyx igloo]

on my computer

[unreal bane]

Okay, maybe lay off them now. That question was answered so any more than that is plain bullying.

[silver plank]

Yeah this is the kind of vitriol and entitled energy that I unsubscribed from.

[toxic relic]

dude you have no idea how much this enrages me

[onyx igloo]

ai

is stupid

[toxic relic]

i genuinely enjoy doing my own research, whats the point of asking chatgpt

[swift crag]

I wish the internet wasn’t flooded with fake information from AI

[obsidian oar]

Definitley not entertaining this childish rant.

[harsh vault]

russian neko

[toxic relic]

imagine citing google gemini in your thesis

[obsidian oar]

Imagine someone going online to just label the work you do as "so lazy", and yet they have not clue what you actually do.

[onyx igloo]

i avoid using ai and try to find sources with real verifications from real people

mainly for help with math homework

[toxic relic]

i can help you with your math hw

worked great last time

[silver plank]

kids do thesis nowadays? Last time I talked with an university student they said they just had to do some research paper

[onyx igloo]

i dont need it currently

[swift crag]

Unfortunately finding that information becomes harder and harder

[onyx igloo]

my mom said i'm laid off of math for a bit

[toxic relic]

idek, do they not do that anymore?

wild

[silver plank]

I did one, but I know some students nowadays that dont

[onyx igloo]

im doing english rn, finishing up this year i think for summer vacation

[silver plank]

and I think thats bad, I learned a lot when I did my thesis

[onyx igloo]

wolfenstein ost is fire

[toxic relic]

real

liszt is fire

[swift crag]

I never really liked writing…

[silver plank]

I did my thesis on the "psychological effects of modern television on human behavior"

[onyx igloo]

i hate writing things i dont like writing about

my brain just

backfires and shits itself

[toxic relic]

damn

[silver plank]

and I did it just like a year or two before streaming became the norm

I did predict that in my research

[karmic swift]

I got into a big argument with an IRL friend awhile back over LLM's. my argument was that LLMs are incredibly useful tools, but they aren't intelligent, there is no 'knowledge' there at all, it's just great at word and language association, like a glorified text prediction tool or autocorrect.

his stance was that these tools are fully intelligent and that the data they provide is invaluable, and that they 'know' way more than the average person

no amount of examples to the contrary that I provided would convince him otherwise. he didn't even believe the actual results he was getting when I told him to search specific things that would always cause the AI to hallucinate responses (for example: asking gemini how you travel to other planets in Heroes of Hammerwatch. try searching that and look at the wacky results it gives. there are no other planets in HoH.)

even pulled some wild Star Citizen hallucinations it gave about traveling to other universes. SC is one of his favorite games. he doubled down on the hallucinations and said "well it must have read that from proposed ideas from the developers. it knows more than we do."

I've given up. he's now using Gemini Research to develop a method for chemical conversion of metals into salts. I've tried telling him that he needs to do his own independent research, that if he follows those instructions he is going to injure or kill himself. he doesn't listen...

holy shit lol sry

didnt realize I typed a whole ass ted talk

[silver plank]

Back then we were limited by the internet speed

as soon as internet got faster, streaming became the norm

[karmic swift]

tl;dr - LLMs hallucinate, my friend ignores it, he's gonna melt his face off when he tries following its hallucinated chemical engineering instructions

[silver plank]

well first smart TV came out on 2008 so actually I didnt predict anything as it was already happening

[onyx igloo]

my

EYES

well

EYE

hurts

[toxic relic]

the bad ending: using llms for practical chemistey

thats fucking insane

[karmic swift]

right??

[silver plank]

WHY DONT THEY JUST WATCH NURD RAGE???!?

[obsidian oar]

Try bleach

[toxic relic]

inorganic/organic chem experiments using gemini

[karmic swift]

I'm like, dude, look at these examples of it getting VIDEOGAME facts wrong

[onyx igloo]

why dont they LIKE chemistry

like

[toxic relic]

fucking hell

[karmic swift]

and you're gonna trust an LLM for chemical engineering instructions?!

[onyx igloo]

chemistry is fun from my experience

they're too lazy to learn it?

[silver plank]

I wouldnt trust AI advice for anything, I mean I know of a case of some stupid streamer that was using ChatGPT for legal advice on their court case. Spoilers ||he lost and ended up owing like a million dollars||

[karmic swift]

I think he agrees with you, he thinks chemistry is cool

[toxic relic]

i think we should stop your mate at all costs

[karmic swift]

but he wants to skip the whole.. learning aspect

and get straight to the "fun parts"

[swift crag]

Ouch, long, and yes that’s a massive issue I have with AI, some people don’t realise it’s just copyright infringement machines, and meme ai slop generation other times.

This stuff shouldn’t be used in its current form to auto generate tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of webpages in an attempt to profit off of copyright infringement, the information ends up as a middle ground with out of left field ideas being stapled in at random that usually are jokes being taken in serious forms

[toxic relic]

bad view of chem imo

[silver plank]

I know a guy that doesn't do ANYTHING in his life without asking ChatGPT

[toxic relic]

the methodology is the whole fucking point

you need to be precise and meticulous

[karmic swift]

he gets upset whenever I denigrate LLMs lol

[hollow drift]

hola

[toxic relic]

insane

[karmic swift]

great tools

[candid patio]

My wife is that guy

[swift crag]

I found an ai page about killing botulism spores and it repeated 110c for 3 minutes so many fucking times and it pissed me off

[karmic swift]

but they're just a tool, not the solution to anything

like photoshop or a pencil

there's no brain there

[onyx igloo]

isnt botox made with botulism spores or something

[silver plank]

I only trust AI when I ask it to search on the web for something

Also it's kinda good at editing and formatting a resume.

[swift crag]

I was looking at long shelf life foods

[candid patio]

My wife has used chatgpt to win government grants and rfps

[onyx igloo]

my brain just reads over all the botox jokes i've seen lol

[swift crag]

Botulism spores need like >121c for 10 minutes core temp (according to government food sources) to be killed off

[toxic relic]

truly the worst timeline

[thin wedge]

there is dirt outside

eat the dirt

[onyx igloo]

plamt

[thin wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/sand-eat-eat-sand-yummy-gif-20549525

[silver plank]

How about you eat these

[onyx igloo]

its DEEZ

[silver plank]

delicious cookies I just baked for you?

[onyx igloo]

NOT

[toxic relic]

eat deez nuts

[harsh vault]

is this ai generated

[onyx igloo]

THESE

[swift crag]

If you know your physics, water cannot be above 100c in 1atmosphere

[karmic swift]

dont trust the AI search results either, they are always trash

[onyx igloo]

mustache

[silver plank]

Well AI gives me the links

so I can read them myself

[karmic swift]

ahh that's fair then

[silver plank]

I treat AI like a stupid servant

[karmic swift]

I like to see how wacky the results become sometimes

[swift crag]

I’ve never really found any links worth considering from them to be honest

[karmic swift]

gemini is so ass

[silver plank]

I have so I will disagree

[karmic swift]

lets try some zomboid ones...

[obsidian oar]

This one was before ai.

[unreal bane]

Trust AI? I don't even trust myself.

[swift crag]

That’s fair, I’ve mostly used it for stuff I was personally finding hard to find so it wasn’t the easiest job

[toxic relic]

same, i got so tired of those results i switched to a browser and engine that doesnt use it lmao

[swift crag]

But then again finding shit myself is easy enough without the use of it in most cases

[silver plank]

I use AI at work sometimes, it can do some things, but its just not always reliable

[toxic relic]

google more like gurgle

gurgle deez

[silver plank]

You cant really compare Google AI to ChatGPT

[dim cloak]

well here we are again
it's always such a pleasure
remember when I tried
to sleep once more?
oh how we laughed and laughed
except I wasn't laughing
Under the circumstances
I've got insomniaaaaaa

[karmic swift]

aight lets try chatgpt lol

[silver plank]

Its like making a toddler compete against a baby

[swift crag]

I genuinely hate that AI is now in the workplace of many places. I get that’s a “Luddite” view but, genuinely would’ve rathered people not to yet again be forced to use a tool to correct it and modify outputs to make it workable in the setting. It removes ALOT of ability to develop your own skills and it just becomes course correction

[unreal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-monkey-fight-monkey-fight-knives-gif-427174388596205973

[silver plank]

It's like calculators but worse

[dim cloak]

took me forever to think of this btw. when I could've been trying to sleep.

[swift crag]

At least a calculator doesn’t tell you how to calculate percentages

[unreal bane]

Now we understand why math teachers banned the use of calculators in class.

[neon bramble]

wasn't it always understood, everyone just thought it was funny to accuse them of sadism regardless

[karmic swift]

there are no "play as children" mods in PZ. hallucination.

[silver plank]

Tell it

You have to scold AI when it gives you wrong info

[dim cloak]

why would you ask this in the first place

[karmic swift]

to point out inconsistencies and fallacies.

[swift crag]

That legitimately doesn’t do anything?

[karmic swift]

and to highlight that chatgpt is no better than any of the other AI models regarding hallucinations

LLMs overwhelmingly will not say "I don't know"

they make something up instead

[silver plank]

There's something called Feedback Loop

look into it

[toxic relic]

nah i agree, and luddites were a pro worker movement that wasnt against "science", they were against the forced redundancy of farm labour due to [at the tim] new commercial farming equipment. They were being let go on mass in favour of cheaper equipment that "saved labour cost"...big parallel to the modern time

[silver plank]

If you want to dismiss AI entirely without even researching it even a little bit

then you cannot argue against it properly

[swift crag]

Yes but that’s different

Training and application of ai is seperate

You can give it different information but before it is trained on that new set it doesn’t learn anything new

[karmic swift]

I'm not dismissing it, I'm just pointing out that you have to take everything these things spit out with a grain of salt. you need to double/triple check all of the responses it gives

because it so often just manufactures an answer out of thin air

or it confuses two different IPs/topics and merges them into one

[swift crag]

I dismiss ai because it literally is killing innovation and creativity in workers and professional settings in alot of cases

[karmic swift]

it does this a lot with videogames

like if you were a coder

[toxic relic]

spend more time checking your chatgpt answers than it would take to look for it yourself

[silver plank]

At least it remembers to call me Queen and thats all I need

[karmic swift]

you wouldn't just ask chatgpt to code your game and click the "Publish game" button on steam

you would, I hope, run the code and check it first, then refactor and so on

[dim cloak]

ironically that is literally a thing already

[karmic swift]

yea I know... unfortunately lol

[toxic relic]

...when even chatgpt corrects you

[dim cloak]

unfortunately

[toxic relic]

corrects*

[swift crag]

Ai code in a lot of cases is like 2x the effort to fix than make from scratch ._.

Let alone it goes against my morals of software being more inefficient as hardware becomes more powerful

[karmic swift]

yea I've heard that too

[silver plank]

Was that intentional or just a slip?

Perhaps a nod to irony.

[heavy ivy]

demoknightdemoknightdemoknight

[karmic swift]

like it just makes your job more difficult than if you started from scratch with your own knowledge instead

[toxic relic]

autocorrect

[silver plank]

A nod to irony then.

[karmic swift]

I'm not a dev though so no experience there really. but I can see it

[heavy ivy]

generative ai also just tends to put out shit

[swift crag]

There is a tonne of neat uses for ai don’t get me wrong, like better application of blurs, or filtering tools e.t.c. E.t.c. These are for creating things quicker in applications that are very restrained and time consuming on good hardware.

[dim cloak]

When I use ai like chatgpt, I use it to give me a template, then use my own skills to improve upon it, ie "how do i make a basic in-out system in c++?"
outputs code
I then not only type it from scratch, but also modify it accordingly

[silver plank]

Do you think the AI hurt the art commission market in places like Deviant Art and such?

[dim cloak]

absolutely

[swift crag]

I mean it outright has

[silver plank]

I have never commissioned artwork in my life.

[swift crag]

It’s also removed jobs of graphic designers in website design companies

[dim cloak]

same but i can see the damage it did

[silver plank]

X company sued because the AI plagiarized some logo and nobody knew

[karmic swift]

I like Benn Jordan's idea too. Poisonify. AI companies are still training their models on copyrighted works like music/art/etc

Benn Jordan is a musician and sound engineer who developed a tool that "poisons" all of his music (and anyone else's, whoever chooses to use the poisonify tool) so that it becomes gibberish to AI models and causes outputs trained on that data to basically be horribly useless. but to human ears it's imperceptible.

it's stupidly clever and I love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMYm2d9bmEA

[silver plank]

It probably hurt the small market the most

Small and medium business

[swift crag]

That’s literally 99% of generative ai content today

So is built on copyright infringement

[karmic swift]

Poisonify is clever because it takes the idea of "Garbage in, garbage out" and cranks it up to 11 😄

speedrun that shit

[swift crag]

There was a meta ex-employee that was going to testify that they torrented some ungodly data byte of books and content that wound up dead before the court day

[karmic swift]

meanwhile they have their own independent AI promotion tool that's opt-in. and artists whose content is used from that opt-in model are paid fairly

so if you want AI models trained on your music, you can do that and actually get credit for it. win/win

[naive flicker]

I just learned to not gaf

[swift crag]

It’s opt in by default

[naive flicker]

AI art looks ugly 90% of the time, aight imma js move on

[swift crag]

Oh wait wrong thing my bad

[harsh vault]

i know too many people who have ai furry sonas and i just shake my head

[naive flicker]

[dim cloak]

hey floof. can't sleep either?

[swift crag]

Literal case of potential commissions loss

[heavy ivy]

i just don't want to do anything with generative content because it ends up poisoning everything it touches

[harsh vault]

siccy

[heavy ivy]

i get there might be some ok use cases but its not worth it for me

hugs for the flooff

[dim cloak]

right.

[harsh vault]

thank yu

[dim cloak]

for me it's just really hot in my room, despite the fan being on max

[chrome jetty]

Do drugs

[dim cloak]

I hate the heat

[chrome jetty]

And the heat hates you, do drugs

[heavy ivy]

[naive flicker]

Idk some ppl just don't wanna pay money for a fursona

[heavy ivy]

you will never escape the boops >:3

[harsh vault]

grr

[young kelp]

Colony progress, we managed to capture a void soldier and have harvest the most useful parts

Problem currently dealing with now is a sudden fallout caused by VOID and there's an infested ship outside the base which I am currently ignoring

[naive flicker]

If they wanna use AI then idk just go ahead

[chrome jetty]

I can if I block you 😉

[swift crag]

Take a look at blender’s new blur application, I’d say that’s an acceptable use of it

[young kelp]

didn't manage to get the legs, the only way to capture the void soldier was to cut off their legs

[heavy ivy]

show an article? i think you may be mistaking it for something else, that feels incredibly out of touch for blender team

[dim cloak]

melatonin, indica, sleep pills, warm milk, etc. I've tried everything. all of them just make me sleepy. none of them put me to sleep.

[chrome jetty]

Commit crimes then

[icy vigil]

Warm milk 🤤

[young kelp]

become ninja

[lilac quarry]

try doing a standing backflip on concrete

usually works for me

[dim cloak]

the only effective thing was literal anestesia

[lilac quarry]

if I succeed the adrenaline dump makes me sleep and if I don't then I also just go to sleep

[dim cloak]

that's what i meant by indica

[heavy ivy]

free spine adjustment too

[chrome jetty]

If you become an alcoholic you should have no problem sleeping

[harsh vault]

weed-jitsu

[dim cloak]

i'm too out of shape to do that.

[lilac quarry]

it just keeps getting better

[dim cloak]

nope. tried alcohol. again, just makes me sleepy

[chrome jetty]

Obviously you didn’t drink enough

[lilac quarry]

also alcohol does not allow you to have restful sleep

[chrome jetty]

psshhh

[dim cloak]

it takes me forever to fall asleep

1-2 hours

[lilac quarry]

wow a rare mistershark10 react emote

it's like a shiny

[chrome jetty]

Run into a wall headfirst at full sprint

[dim cloak]

yes i mean i've smonked weed. and tried edibles. neither worked

[lilac quarry]

really tho how long have you struggled with this

[naive flicker]

Or give yourself the project Zomboid shovel gif treatment

[swift crag]

Maybe ill definitely take a look for it

[dim cloak]

all my life

[stable oar]

[dim cloak]

as long as i can remember

[dim cloak]

ty for reminding me about Vintage Story

anyway, nowadays, if i can't even feel relaxed enough to sleep after about 2-3 hours of trying, i usually just stay up all night

and take naps during the day, to catch up on sleep

[chrome jetty]

See that’s your problem, if you are constantly sleep deprived it will be easy to fall asleep

[dim cloak]

not for me. i'm always drowsy. thanks to my meds

[chrome jetty]

See me, I go to bed around twelve and try to wake up for 7, I usually end up waking up randomly around 5, but it’s easier to fall asleep at night

[dim cloak]

as a side-effect

[chrome jetty]

I’m constantly tired too, it’s either my bad lifestyle or lack of sleep (most likely the former)

[dim cloak]

I go to bed at 10p, and try and wake up at 6. But i also get nightmares super often, sometimes waking me up in a cold sweat

mainly trauma from school

[chrome jetty]

Ahh that’s unfortunate

[dim cloak]

having ptsd from school sucks

i need therapy but it costs too much

and need transportation

[chrome jetty]

I’ve never had PTSD, and everyone is a different person. But to me therapy is a waste of time. Therapy can’t help me fix my issues, only help me identify the problem. But if I already identified that then what’s the point.

[silver plank]

well depends on your country, you may be able to get help through some programs

have you looked into that?

[dim cloak]

US

[silver plank]

This is really bad advice

[swift crag]

Tbf, I think I need to be medicated but to get officially diagnosed is like 5k+ and I don't have that type of money lying around.

[silver plank]

But then again there's also bad therapists

[chrome jetty]

It’s not advice it’s my personal take

[oblique stream]

So your ptsd is a preexisting condition

[dim cloak]

wym

[chrome jetty]

For PTSD maybe it’s a good thing, idk I e never had it

[heavy ivy]

as in you live in the USA

comedy

[dim cloak]

ah.

[chrome jetty]

My problem stem from my inability to grasp social interactions

[silver plank]

If I am going to pay a therapist I ask them for a curriculum the same way any employer would.

[swift crag]

I live in Australia and certain things here are screwed

[silver plank]

Asking a therapist for their curriculum is a very easy way to spot bad therapists before you even waste your time and money

[dim cloak]

I also have severe social anxiety, and asberger's

[heavy ivy]

oh yeah i've heard of the shit over there from my aussie friends, all the empathy heading your way

[dim cloak]

like i can vc and text totally fine

[oblique stream]

Im funny

[swift crag]

I mean if it's life threatening then it's a problem and essentially free.
If it's mental, expensive unless you claim you're aborginal and then it's either free, or heavily subsidised.

[silver plank]

well nowadays asperger is part of the autism spectrum and the US has some programs that may be helpful for that

[chrome jetty]

I wouldn’t say I have social anxiety. Like I can talk to people and strike up a convo. Unless it’s like a super pretty girl.

My problem is advancing a friendship in any meaningful way.

[heavy ivy]

im looking forward (and am nervous about) my autism consult in a few months it should hopefully help me understand this brain a bit better

[dim cloak]

same

[chrome jetty]

I don’t understand the concept of friendship

[dim cloak]

well good luck and hope it goes well

[chrome jetty]

Are you really friends if you talk only within exterior circumstances?

I don’t think so, but I also don’t know how to take that step.

[heavy ivy]

thank you, brain says "dont fail dont mess it up" but like i find that a little funny because like what does that even mean

[dim cloak]

I've never had a best friend before. Never dated anyone before. never even flirted before

[toxic relic]

thats ok dude

[dim cloak]

yeah, i can give you some idea of whar to expect

[toxic relic]

if you're not about then dont force yourself

[dim cloak]

basically memory "games"

[toxic relic]

flirting and dating and romance, etc isnt universal/required/or an innate thing for all

[chrome jetty]

I’ve dated. Tbh I just got lucky, but it didn’t last long.

Nowadays everyone who has ever meant something to me is gone, so I’m stuck in a cycle of wake up, work/games, sleep. It’s a boring meaningless life

[heavy ivy]

playing the social game often sucks anyways, find the communities that you actually care about, or the places that you like, they dont have to have people involved at all, i like plants

[dim cloak]

I get lonely very very easily, so I kinda have to force myself. I hate being by myself

[heavy ivy]

well that's a decent place to start - it sounds like you'd like companionship in some way? maybe something to try and feel out what that may mean to you, no pressure tho

[dim cloak]

that's basically my life rn.

[silver plank]

There's a Job Accomodation Network in the US and there's also the Autism Society

Youre not alone

[silver plank]

You should definitely reach out to these

[heavy ivy]

therein lies the game

[lilac quarry]

he did say that, omar and I were there

[dim cloak]

I'm currently working with a job coach and vocational rehab so i assume that's what this is

[heavy ivy]

its true

[swift crag]

Green dragon and plants Hmm

Anyways trying to look for anything relating to the thing before is hard to find since it all comes up with advertisements for AI powered tools and addons ._.
So might not exist I might be mistaken but I can't prove if I am or not. Ouch

[chrome jetty]

It’s to much work, and you see all of ur friends and shit doing stuff. And you kinda just doing the same shit everyday

[dim cloak]

autism society tho...

[chrome jetty]

Ehh it’s not for me, I’m sick of it

[heavy ivy]

its ok :3
i can tell you mean well, I just can get a little uppity about ai at times so sorry for being a bit blunt :)

and yes there is a relationship between the green dragon and plants ehe

[swift crag]

Didn't take it that way.
I have my own hates about AI gen stuff, but I can't deny some applications are good and not as shitty as what 99% or more of it's use is.
There's a few things that is generative art, but done in ways that are next to impossible to do by hand, I can grab a video of that if you'd like.

[heavy ivy]

oh i've seen the cool stuff you've talked about! before companies went all crazy with it my father who does graphic design professionally showed me some of the tools powered by ai that got rid of a lot of busywork and helped him be more productive, and it's real simple and logical stuff like the automatic removal of things you dont want in a photo

[heavy ivy]

beh it's always weird getting hit with nonverbal spell randomly during the day

like brain is still ok with typing buut words are a no-go

[karmic jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1134241038379257927.webp?size=96&animated=true

[heavy ivy]

the cat advocate

[karmic jetty]

word ai is being used to loosely to describe everything

[obsidian oar]

Catster?

[swift crag]

Describe everything machine learning, yes.

[karmic jetty]

hardly know er

[heavy ivy]

yeg in my specific conver here im talking about 'generative tools that create an output from a user prompt from large training data sets sourced externally'

[karmic jetty]

yups

gen ai is bad

[heavy ivy]

cast it into the fire

[swift crag]

I think generative AI can have a use, but only so much in the stance when it's being used in a way that someone else couldn't do it even with skill and training and reasonable time.

[karmic jetty]

in some fields yea i could see that

[swift crag]

I otherwise just view it as a hazard for human wellbeing >->

[karmic jetty]

they took er jerbs

[naive flicker]

AI can be helpful

Me personally, i don't use it, but it still can help people

[swift crag]

to me, it goes beyond jobs.

[karmic jetty]

like i said the word ai is beings used turbo loosely

siri is ai

ur excel sheet has ai

[swift crag]

Wasn't it originally "Virtual assistant"?

[karmic jetty]

is called ai now too

[swift crag]

That feels all kinds of wrong but yeah it's probably hooked into a LLM now anyways.

[karmic jetty]

real

[naive flicker]

Yuh

[swift crag]

I've said this already here ._.

It takes more than just repetitive tasks away, or culture, it takes away people's very nature on improvement and innovation, if all you're trying to target is set trend graphs for work completed, and you force an AI usecase that literally removes all ability to innovate or develop your own skills in that field and only implement the AI in function, it would legitimately end up with stagnation by design.

It's the same for factory goods, at our goods now, they're all pretty much uniform, and barely have any craftsmanship in any of it anymore. Yes, there still is artisan stuff that is far better than an ikea factory floor table.

But that only extends out so far before you just don't have quality goods anymore because they're simply not worth making.

[naive flicker]

It doesn't matter. Humans will still create art and music with their own hands.

[swift crag]

And how will it be distributed?

[naive flicker]

That still doesn't matter. As long as humans keep making art and music by themselves everything is alright

Stop worrying so much 🫶

[swift crag]

Oh really?

[naive flicker]

Yes really

[swift crag]

So you want to disregard the point that even if humans still make music, it will be irrelevant when platforms go 100% dead internet and doesn't reach anyone at all?

To the point people start making music based off of ai generations as inspiration?

[naive flicker]

Yes i want to disregard exactly that point

Because it won't happen

[swift crag]

It already is happening on the internet just not to the music section right now.

[karmic jetty]

ye its happening

music too

[naive flicker]

Human content will not die out

[swift crag]

Ai art ends up everywhere, people are using AI GENERATIONS FOR ANATOMY REFERENCE

[naive flicker]

As long as it's correct, why not

[swift crag]

That's the thing it won't ever be a proper reference photo

[silver plank]

AI sucks at making music, I tried the music making AI the other day and I asked it to use harmonic minor chords and it just couldn't.

[naive flicker]

That's on the artist then
Why do you care so much about what others do while creating art

[swift crag]

That it does, it just doesn't understand music very well at the moment.

[swift crag]

Because I have created art and music for >10 years.

[naive flicker]

Istg people care too much nowadays

[karmic jetty]

there are big industries backing these

[silver plank]

Not a lot of people in the current day and age make a lot of money with music.

[swift crag]

This shit is literally poisoning the well, and removing the ease of access of getting into it

[naive flicker]

No wonder everyone is so fucking stressed

[silver plank]

It's an oversaturated market. Just like graphic design and art.

Where's the modern PIcasso?

Or the modern whatever

[karmic jetty]

alive

[silver plank]

Disney for inventing furry art?

[lilac quarry]

They’re working at Amazon

[karmic jetty]

real

[lilac quarry]

Or in the mines

[karmic jetty]

susiety

[lilac quarry]

Don’t

[swift crag]

As a child I yearned for the

[karmic jetty]

there could be many einsteins out there that shrimply never had the access to proper education and stuff

[silver plank]

I think back in the day people had even less access to education than today

[lilac quarry]

Or they get their heads blown smoove off

[silver plank]

Check the literacy rate 100 years ago

[karmic jetty]

yet we still see so many dummies today

[swift crag]

Differing ideas was also far more hostile in certain fields... Darwin found that out

[lilac quarry]

I can’t read I just use AI

[karmic jetty]

literacy rate does not represent intelligence

[swift crag]

My school district in my state has a predefined 50% fail cure.

[silver plank]

20 years ago we all knew it was a lie if someone said they didn't have time to do X thing. Nowadays this is even more true due to how much automation we have, yet we keep saying "oh i dont have time for X or Y"

[swift crag]

or 45% I don't remember for year 12

[silver plank]

Well the USA has a literacy rate of 99%

[karmic jetty]

erm source 🤓

[silver plank]

People can read, just question what they're reading

[karmic jetty]

i need papers

[slim knot]

Most people selectively read

[naive flicker]

I don't like how people always come up with the argument "Cuba has a higher literacy rate than the US"
Meanwhile in Cuba you're not counted as illiterate if you have the reading skills of a 1st grader lol

[silver plank]

Oh wow it actually went down recently

[swift crag]

Pretty sure Australia is at about 85%+

[silver plank]

Just google it, im not your servant

[swift crag]

I might be wrong on that

[silver plank]

I think its lower in 2024 though

yikes

was this due to TikTok?

[karmic jetty]

smh my head

ur the one stating stats!!!!

[silver plank]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_the_United_States

[swift crag]

Apparently teachers have been hammered hard in schooling in the 1st world due to students with behavioral issues and having like 4 grades below their year level grading.

[silver plank]

Yeah it went down in 2024

How do you manage that?

Isnt information easier to get now?

[naive flicker]

I have no idea

[swift crag]

I find it harder...

[slim knot]

Kids dont read anymore

[karmic jetty]

doesnt mean u are willing to find information

like urself that doesnt wanna share source >:(

[silver plank]

In 2019, the National Center for Educational Statistics reported that 4.1% of US adults had literacy abilities below level 1, defined as "unable to successfully determine the meaning of sentences, read relatively short texts to locate a single piece of information, or complete simple forms", and could be classified as functionally illiterate.

How did things get worse from 2019 to 2024?

[naive flicker]

Idk blame AI or some shit

Like everyone else does

[swift crag]

adoption of smart phones and social media at younger ages if I had to hazard a guess.

[karmic jetty]

susiety

[silver plank]

Is there a correlation between stupidity and stupid beliefs?

[naive flicker]

I mean i still read a lot on social media

[slim knot]

Kids are getting onetapped by the new internet

[silver plank]

Like for example, believing that people of a certain race are inferior to others, it's proven that only low IQ people think this.

[swift crag]

And alot of social media has gone to short form videos

[naive flicker]

Which still contain text

[silver plank]

Said text:

no cap fr (followed by some emojis)

[ruby river]

can i get a :3 in the chat

[karmic jetty]

mmm instant gratification

[swift crag]

Imo, the whole IQ thing is just utterly stupid.

[obsidian oar]

Even full length movies are like short form videos stitched together.

[naive flicker]

There's still tons of informative content out there, it's just delivered in different ways.

[silver plank]

It's a nice way of saying "st*pid"

[naive flicker]

Even in short form content

[silver plank]

Look it up

[swift crag]

I idiotcracy was interesting which is what I mostly think of when low IQ gets mentioned.

[karmic jetty]

u overestimate just how much there are compared to tupid slop

[silver plank]

A lot of people who are racist didn't complete further than 5th grade in school

[swift crag]

But even that movie failed to recognise 100IQ is just a updated sample for average.

[naive flicker]

People have said the same about comic books back then
"Read a real book, not this bullshit"

[swift crag]

if everyone gets dumber by 50 points compared to today in 50 years, they're still on average 100iq

[naive flicker]

There will always be tons of slop out there

[karmic jetty]

50 points to griffindor

[silver plank]

Intelligence testing has gone a long way

[naive flicker]

There are sloppy books

There are sloppy TV shows

There's sloppy music
Everything can be sloppy

[karmic jetty]

difference is now theyre delivered right straight to u thru algorithms and keep u there

[obsidian oar]

aka "Brain Rot"

[silver plank]

Did you know that you can ask Youtube to stop recommending you stuff based on your view history?

[naive flicker]

That's one of the few things that might be a problem

[naive flicker]

☝️

[silver plank]

Wow

dont point at me

[karmic jetty]

and u think the average person does that

is a clampicated thing

[naive flicker]

But even intelligent people can still like brainrot

[obsidian oar]

I've turned search history off, but will look into this on top of that.

[naive flicker]

My bad

👉

[silver plank]

The average person is too busy replying to some form of text messaging to care about reading this conversation

[naive flicker]

Imma point into the emptiness

[slim knot]

You are the average person.

[silver plank]

The other day I told my Uber drive to stop texting and driving

and he did

[naive flicker]

I'm too busy doing this x3

[obsidian oar]

I had to move, cos you were pointing at me... 🙄

[silver plank]

I rarely use Uber but when I do I scold the driver if I notice they have bad habits while driving

[naive flicker]

💔

https://tenor.com/view/car-is-going-down-gif-9059014168161261076

"slow down mate"

[obsidian oar]

Texting and driving is a bad idea. Some people battle with texting and walking.

[naive flicker]

Drunk driving is better

[charred monolith]

Hello im new to the game and i was wondering if someone is currently working on a mod that brings Wonder weapons from cod zombies to PZ?

[obsidian oar]

Yeah. If mowing down trees and other motorists is the goal.

[silver plank]

I just read them stuff like this

"In 2023, 3,275 people were killed in distracted driving crashes.
About 14% of fatal crashes involved cell phone use.
Distracted driving contributed to 8-13% of police-reported crashes, with phone use sourcing 1.5 to 5% of those"

Still, mosquitos kill more humans than text and driving so I guess it's not that bad.

[obsidian oar]

Dunno if anyone here will know / respond. Try asking in #mod_development

[charred monolith]

Thanks

[obsidian oar]

Assuming that any fatality is not worth having, then I'd say a fatality rate of one per annum is one too much.

[carmine monolith]

theres just alot of preventable deaths out there that arent """"economical"""" to solve.

tuberculosis, driving fatalities, the list is depressing

[toxic hawk]

Driving under the influence

Very cringe

[silver plank]

Astarion is so obviously evil and greedy

how did he become so popular?

I think its because hes good looking and has a smooth sexy voice

[toxic hawk]

The sun is very beautiful

The symbol of life and energy

[ruby river]

hi chat

[blazing oriole]

What am I looking at

[warm atlas]

what

[lofty mango]

Is there a way to “fix” the server browser in multiplayer? Seems like I always get a few and have to refresh to find one I saw earlier

[toxic hawk]

It's artorias. What's confusing

[warm atlas]

I have no clue what he is talking about thats what

[toxic hawk]

Who knows. It's just artorias

[naive flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1107246175041634434.webp?size=96&animated=true

[ruby river]

next person to type is cool

[median dove]

LETS GOO

@ruby river

U are sigma

[ruby river]

youre cool

[median dove]

Yesss

[harsh vault]

ben dont 😭

[warm atlas]

understood that perfectly

[quiet siren]

LMAOO I JUST GOT 2 BAGS OF JERKY FROM THE VENDING MACHINE WHEN I PAID FOR ONE

[obsidian oar]

Winning!

[quiet siren]

Never had that happen

[naive flicker]

🛒

[warm atlas]

indeed

[naive flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-linux-open-source-arch-i-use-arch-btw-gif-25315741

[warm atlas]

Good thats one less loose end

NO-

[harsh vault]

is that jerma

[naive flicker]

No that's Zyzz or how he's called

Xyzz

?

I forgot

[harsh vault]

sounds russian

[naive flicker]

No he wasn't Russian

[harsh vault]

german

[naive flicker]

No

European, i just forgot which country

[harsh vault]

french

[naive flicker]

No

Thankfully not