mod_development

[abstract raptor]

Well I know how to make them glow green

XD

@weary matrix

local lightByZombie = {}
local function onZombieUpdate(zombie)
    if lightByZombie[zombie] ~= nil then
        lightByZombie[zombie]:setActive(false)
        getCell():removeLamppost(lightByZombie[zombie])
    end
    lightByZombie[zombie] = IsoLightSource.new(zombie:getX(), zombie:getY(), zombie:getZ(), 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 5)
    getCell():addLamppost(lightByZombie[zombie])
end

Events.OnZombieUpdate.Add(onZombieUpdate)```

[weary matrix]

nice 😄

How can I display text like when your character is talking, but without making any noise that would attract zombies?

guess I have to use method Say() the one with MANY parameters

or maye just SayWhisper could be ok

[agile coral]

Not sure if it's visible to other players, but you could use player:setHaloNote(text)

[obtuse cloud]

hey yall i know this is probably a stretch and i dont think this is the right channel so im sorry about that but would anyone know what mod is causing this error? I've tried to look a lot but ive no idea what im doing function: Crossbow_stal_swap -- file: CrossbowUpdate_Antiques.lua line # 20.
[05-12-21 10:28:23.806] ERROR: General , 1638660503806> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: getType of non-table: null at KahluaThread.tableget line:1689..
[05-12-21 10:28:23.806] ERROR: General , 1638660503806> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[05-12-21 10:28:23.811] LOG : General , 1638660503811> -----------------------------------------
STACK TRACE

[weary matrix]

@agile coral thx, no worries it's just a debug thing. Let me try

@agile coral thx works like a charm 😄

ah but it seems I can't stack them, like every time a new HaloNote is set, it removes the previous one 😦

[shadow raven]

antique armory

or whichever one adds the weapons

[weary matrix]

@tame mulch Any clue if it's possible to know if something has been printed to the console between two prints from my mod?

[obtuse cloud]

thank you that fixed it i love you.

[weary matrix]

mmm or maybe I should print to a custom file instead

[cyan fiber]

hey I had a question/request for any modders willing to hear it. I don't know the correct terminology for it, but I'm looking for a fix to an issue I keep having where textures don't render properly depending on the clothing I'm wearing. It's modded outfits, always from paw low loot, but it seems like if you wear certain articles of clothing WITH paw stuff that it makes parts of the paw item textures have a weird no-draw texture kind of effect

examples:

looks like this

should look like this

it was the pants causing it for some goddamn reason

either way, I was wondering if anyone knew any fixes? Like, I know in source you can "double face" textures so that it applies to both sides of a 2D thing, is that possible with zomboid?

another example

[ruby urchin]

that's because your set a bad UV mapping on your model

[cyan fiber]

so its the mod's fault

[cyan fiber]

is it possible to fix it for someone whose modding illiterate or will this be a complicated project

[ruby urchin]

it should be something like this, depending on the area you are modeling

[ruby urchin]

you can add this on ClothingItem xml file,

<m_MasksFolder>none</m_MasksFolder>

[cyan fiber]

and I'd have to do that for each individual broken item I imagine

[ruby urchin]

but your clothing will not have blood, holes or dirt

yeah

[cyan fiber]

PAW loot gear doesn't get holes in it anyway so I think I could live with that

thank you @ruby urchin !

[weary matrix]

Any clue how to write a file to the same folder where console.txt is located? I found out how to write to the Lua folder but I'd like to get the parent folder

[weary matrix]

Ok, I still have to implement settings etc but my DebugLuaEvents mod is working!
If anyone wants to try it it's here:
https://github.com/quarantin/zomboid-wiki/tree/main/mods/DebugLuaEvents

oh and I still have to handle server side events also 😅

[radiant abyss]

how can i find out what mods are causing errors ?

[hot patrol]

There will be lots more. That's actually the stage I'm on now.

[cobalt rapids]

what method is used to log anything in the main console window?

[rare patrol]

Does the map mod Echo Station work with the map mod Kingsmouth in KY?

[north ledge]

[hollow shadow]

i tried to make animation skeleton but i made scp instead

[north ledge]

i can see that lmao

[tepid crown]

why the minimap not working

[glass grotto]

anyone got a idea ?

[weary matrix]

@royal ridge Running skeleton! 😂

like you're character looking through a window and he sees a skeleton running 😂

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow looks like a giant spider with 6 legs missing 😂

[hollow shadow]

i could do that if i could add additional bones

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow what are you trying to achieve btw?

[hollow shadow]

just testing out possibilities right now

spent entire day figureing out how to animate

[weary matrix]

oh nice

@hollow shadow can't wait for the new animation tutorial ;D

are you using blender?

[hollow shadow]

uhhh

im not a good teacher

[weary matrix]

well then just share your screen with me while doing it and I'll write the tutorial 😂

@hollow shadow btw @eternal girder is also working on animations, guess you could help each other

[north ledge]

Me looking for shredded cheese at 3am:

[hollow shadow]

your parents wakeing up to you

[eternal girder]

you still struggling with animations bro ?

[fair frost]

oh god what is this demonic being

[eternal girder]

My tutorials will be in French cause of shitty accent but i've try to translate it

Or i'll just put it in text

[hollow shadow]

when i export the animation. blender automaticly creates a T pose key? how to avoid it

[eternal girder]

which version you use ?

[hollow shadow]

3.0

[eternal girder]

You work on FBX ?

You change Rest Pose ?

Maybe you'll need to take first or last frame then "apply pose as rest pose" ?

i'm interested on how you've done, you created yourself an armature with same name than game or took an already used one ?

[hollow shadow]

How do i do that

[eternal girder]

go to layout

then click on a bone and switch to pose mod where you can switch between edit or object mod

[hollow shadow]

when i press tab he switches to T pose

[eternal girder]

yeah so the problem is probably an issue with the rest pose

[hollow shadow]

how do i search on 3.0 ughh

space doesnt work anymore

[eternal girder]

search ?

[hollow shadow]

yeah you could use a search and then type "Apply" and then a bunch of buttons that include the word would show up

like "Apply object transform"

[eternal girder]

oh well, i've never used that lol

[hollow shadow]

or when unwrapping i can just type "Unwrap" and then choose how to unwrap

how do i apply new rest pose

[eternal girder]

You must have a bone selected, then you click on object/edit mod and switch to Pose mode

then pose > apply > apply as rest pose

[hollow shadow]

then it glitches my whole animation xD

[eternal girder]

how that ?

ctrl + z then back up lol

[hollow shadow]

i have to select all bones right?

[eternal girder]

uh yeah

[hollow shadow]

yeah i do that and then he switches to T pose. and when i go out of pose mode the pose is all messed up

[eternal girder]

you did have ea safe back up right ?

[hollow shadow]

no i just ctrl z

i have my good pose again but idk how to make it work now

[eternal girder]

Maybe that's better to make a back up before but maybe you'll need to "clear transform > all" then "pose as rest pose"

but maybe that's not a good thing to do when you already have all your keyframes

[hollow shadow]

i have a back up

im back to where we was before i applied

[eternal girder]

so maybe select all > clear transform all

in pose mod

then apply as rest pose

[hollow shadow]

now it did exactly what it did when i export. It made a T pose key in the middle of my animation

[eternal girder]

that's a good thing ? you can remove it ?

[hollow shadow]

i can but then it just does it again when i export

[eternal girder]

i'll watch something

You were at this point when you cleared transform etc ?

between 10 and 12 ?

[hollow shadow]

i was at 12 zes

yes

but it doesnt matter where i do it. it always shows up at the start of the animation

[eternal girder]

how so that's maybe initial value ?

[hollow shadow]

huh?

[eternal girder]

you tried to bake it ?

pose > animation > bake action

[hollow shadow]

yep it added a bunch of good keyframes

but after export it still made a T pose keyframe

[eternal girder]

u dont have modifyer ?

[hollow shadow]

?

[eternal girder]

idk, can you send me file(s) ?

[hollow shadow]

i think ill just make a new animation

[eternal girder]

try to apply a rest pose from the beginning

but that's weird

you created yourself the armature ?

if you have a clue to make zomboid animating compatible with blender i search for

oh maybe if you clear parents

[abstract raptor]

no they take up the same spot

[low yarrow]

Try to make the first keyframe on frame 1 and exclude 0 when exporting. Not sure if it helps but worth a try

[late hound]

Just sharing my results here. Rebuilding the .bank files still work, even post-Noiseworks update. However, there are over 400 sound files for zombie sounds, so if anyone is thinking about making one of those zombie-sound replacement mods, good luck to you.

[hot patrol]

Would it not be possible to make it so the game only utilizes the files you want it to so rather than having 400 zombie growls you just have the one Elmo laugh?

I have no idea how this stuff works just asking

[royal ridge]

@weary matrix or a giant Elmo haha

[weary matrix]

haha

guess that would break the immersive part for me though 😂

[late hound]

You could have the same sound effect, but you would have to match the exact length of the vanilla sound file. I recommend splicing the sounds in Audacity so its easier.

[hexed arrow]

anyone know if a state of unconsciousness would be possible?

like for multiplayer for example

[weary matrix]

@hexed arrow you mean like a character getting knocked out or in a coma?

[hollow shadow]

Nice idea gonna try it out

[agile coral]

I ended up hitting a wall with the coolers and pivoted to another mod idea. It's a "challenge" solo map scenario that is pre-apocalypse and has you working at a convenience store.

The hardest part, the NPCs, is yet to come

[stoic stratus]

Can someone suggest me world map mod if know ?

[drowsy island]

minimap?

[reef hatch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1619603097 - this?

[drowsy island]

ye, but was directed as question to guy above

[reef hatch]

ahh righty

[pearl thistle]

minimap is for nerds

memory is for chads

[fading dove]

Who needs a minimap

[pearl thistle]

😆

[fair frost]

So true

[ivory lance]

Hey folks

I'd like to change music from loading screen and loading screen too :3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ISBJc1wFk&ab_channel=KadajNeto

Is it possible?

If yes is there any tutorial to do so?

[weary matrix]

mmh I just read this: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding#Terms_.26_Conditions
So from what I understand it's allowed to share most of the game files, including item scripts, Java class files, music, etc assuming you retain the following information:

Thanks to The Indie Stone for creating Project Zomboid http://projectzomboid.com/), which made this possible. This is an unofficial fan production for non-commercial purposes made under the Indie Stone Terms [link to these terms]
I'm wondering if publishing the decompiled Java code is allowed though, assuming you don't publish it under an OpenSource licensing scheme of course. Any clue about that?

[ivory lance]

Idk

but I'm not planning to publish it

I'm just doing it for myself

[weary matrix]

@ivory lance it's a general inquiry of mine, not related to your question 😅

[abstract raptor]

my zombies crave brains mod time has come

[unkempt tiger]

I'm posting this idea I shared a year ago on the steam forum on here in case any modder wants to make it. I would make it my self but sadly I'm not good with coding or modeling

**An Idea to make carrying things easier
If this hasn't been suggested already I think a wheel barrow would be a good Idea to ferry items around, Since it would be useful to use without having to use a car and weigh your self/bags down personally even stuff like the platform shopping carts that are usually right outside hardware stores that are meant for heavy use would be good, It would also be good if they wore down over time and use and still needing maintenance so they aren't OP

Suggested Pros/Cons

Pros: A possible quiet version of the car (for a bit) and a non gas/over encumbered way of ferrying items

Cons: Over time it starts to break down getting squeaky and loud, Offers zero protection (But allows you to leave it there for the time being to retreat if needed) and can't be used to ram into hoards of zombies or any thing for offense

Side Note: I know they are adding movable items like wheelie bins and such but I just wanted to share this idea**

[halcyon marlin]

saw this the other day ago and tried it to fix a bug that was making a custom vest mesh i made disappear when it accumulated any dirt or blood, but it didnt seem to work. wondering if you know if there is any documentation that has a list of all the tags that could be on a clothing item? i want to find an elegant fix instead of just manually setting the dirt amount on it to 0 all the time

[drifting ore]

Wtf is going on in the tech support chat?

[unkempt tiger]

Dev accidentally did the at here ping and it acted as an at everyone ping

Which then caused them to delete the chat

[ruby urchin]

These are all the ones that I did find from my old guide

<m_GUID></m_GUID> Generate one in www.guidgenerator.com
<m_MaleModel></m_MaleModel> <- Male model path
<m_FemaleModel></m_FemaleModel> <- Female model path
<m_Static></m_Static> <- Optional, default: false
<m_BaseTextures></m_BaseTextures> <- Optional
<m_AttachBone></m_AttachBone> <- Optional
<m_Masks></m_Masks> <- Optional
<m_MasksFolder></m_MasksFolder> <- Optional, default: "media/textures/Body/Masks"
<m_UnderlayMasksFolder></m_UnderlayMasksFolder> <- Optional, default: "media/textures/Body/Masks"
<textureChoices></textureChoices> Texture path
<m_AllowRandomHue></m_AllowRandomHue> <- Optional, default: false
<m_AllowRandomTint></m_AllowRandomTint> <- Optional, default: false
<m_DecalGroup></m_DecalGroup> <- Optional
<m_Shader></m_Shader> <- Optional
<m_HatCategory></m_HatCategory> <- Optional

anyway, very weird that it happens only if you get dirt on your clothes

How look your UV mapping and your xml clothingItem

[halcyon marlin]

this is my xml

the uv mapping is good afaik. in game, all the animations work while it is on, but once it gets dirty at all it just goes 100% transparent

i have to go to class right now, but i can send a video of it in an hour

[winter bolt]

does it have the right blood locations set on the item?

[weary matrix]

is it me or the #pz_techsupport channel is gone? 😮

[sonic pivot]

itll be back dw

[reef hatch]

not the place to be asking that

[unkempt tiger]

It got removed due to an accidental ping which caused the flood gates of zombies to come in. Like Big said though it will be back once the mods clean it up

[weary matrix]

OK then 😅

@reef hatch well I would have asked in the #pz_techsupport channel, but not sure what would be the good place since it's gone for now. Any recommendation?

[unkempt tiger]

pz_chat and off topic are also on a huge slow down

[reef hatch]

just wait for the server to calm down, mods are very busy right now. but this channel is for modders lets not take up the channel

[stark canyon]

Sorry if It has been answered but with the release of MP, will mods like helicopter events and Britas work on release? Or have to be updated to work?

[sonic pivot]

depends on the mod and if the update changes how the mod functions. if so, the mod creator would need to update it. so feel free to test your mods and see.

[reef hatch]

some may need updates but most will probably work fine

[stark canyon]

Alright then, thank you

[weary matrix]

@reef hatch well sorry if I disturbed you, but considering the fact the channel relevant for asking the question was gone, I really don't feel bad about doing it any other place. Do you have a recommendation as to where the question should have been asked or will you just tell me again this is not the right channel?

[queen fractal]

i appreciate most everyone still respecting the non-slowmode channels
anyway, on a similar vein as zr's question, what kind of mods might not work well with the MP releases?

[reef hatch]

im not trying to be funny, im just trying to stop other channels getting taken over. for right now all i can say is wait for the server to calm down

[unkempt tiger]

I assume mostly stuff that isn't basic and intensive and requires a specific function of the current update. I know this is a basic reply but I hope it helps

[winter bolt]

yeah item mods would probably be fine

[ruby urchin]

lmao, tech channel was closed for a few messages, what just happened is nothing in comparison after a horde of spammer bots hit Discord's development server

[queen fractal]

is this modding related, i didn't think so

[ruby urchin]

yeah, it's not, but who care what you think

[strong gale]

Saw this on the steam workshop:

sorry I don't have the author's name at hand to give creds

but imagine this kind of system in game for a MP server

would be dope

[reef hatch]

1 min timer on #pz_b42_chat remember to be lovely dude

[queen fractal]

it's not what i think, it's what i know
and what i know is that this is a channel for mods

[queen fractal]

that certainly looks pretty fuckin cool

[reef hatch]

yeah i saw that would make for an awesome mod

[queen fractal]

maybe i should look into learning how to mod

[unkempt tiger]

I don't understand how handmade and simple are uncraftable though

[strong gale]

I think it's just referring to the plunger item

not 100% sure

just a concept anyways

[queen fractal]

stick a plunger in your femur

[strong gale]

hopefully it's clean

[unkempt tiger]

Yeah I was about to say that since I just noticed it's on the plunger it's self which makes me look like a clown for thinking it's uncraftable lel

[reef hatch]

oh that would be one nasty infection

[strong gale]

I could see someone with lvl 10 first aid and lvl 10 electronics being able to craft one of those advanced bionics

[queen fractal]

mmmmm probably not, those are pretty high tech pieces of equipment

[ruby urchin]

You have currently 10 messages on this channel, you can't come and say what can be done or not, not even talked enough to be considered an off-topic discussion

[queen fractal]

hmm,,, maybe if they have durability, level 8 electronic and level 5 metalworking can repair it?

[reef hatch]

lets just leave this here man no need to take it further

[rancid barn]

Oh boy here we go again

[spark egret]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198162630072/images/ his name is LTAM! saw this on reddit, had to find him

[left plank]

whagwannin

[queen fractal]

yknow i had a whole paragraph typed out but i'm just not going to care

[spark egret]

Cool artwork and design, he is looking for people who are good at Lua editing ATM

[left plank]

what is happening

[queen fractal]

anyways, a real life equivalent to the advanced bionics would have like, funky heckin, whatsit

they can interpret brain thingies so they move realistically and convincingly

[unkempt tiger]

I feel like you would need a lot of tools though

[queen fractal]

that's why i feel it'd be an uncraftable thing

[reef hatch]

got ask to keep the chat about modding and not go off topic i think its over now

[left plank]

aight sweet

danke

[queen fractal]

this does give me the idea of maybe it's like, you need certain specific pieces to make it work??? like specific electronics

the brain interface chip

[unkempt tiger]

That and motion sensor and most likely even specific metal

[queen fractal]

OH

aluminum

aluminummmm

i don't know what other use aluminum has but this'd be PERFECT for it

because aluminum is lighter than steel, which is what i assume most metal in PZ is

i think that it'd be neat if the simple arm prosthetic was varied

looking at it, it seems it's a tool made into a prosthetic

in that image, a hammer

what if it could be any of the various one-handed tool weapons things? a literal hand axe, a screwdriver, maybe a gun

[halcyon marlin]

i toyed with the blood location a lot, even trying to set it to the pants or something instead so it wouldnt intersect with the mesh, but it still turns it invisible no matter where it is

[weary matrix]

When I put Lua files to media/lua/shared, can I require() those files from both server and client folders? If yes then I guess it means I should have different filenames in client and server folder?

[teal coral]

question: who uses this mod to put items in your backpack? because for some reason doesn't allow me to attach this water bottle in my schoolbag

[weary matrix]

@teal coral don't know but maybe it's because usually school bags don't have a way to attach a bottle? Not sure it's the reason though

[winter bolt]

oh that is really strange. the only thing other thing i could think of that you could try is to maybe try using a different model and seeing if it still happens?

just to test if something with the model might be messing up

or maybe try copypasting all of the settings from another clothing item just to narrow it down

[halcyon marlin]

good idea. i made this about a month and a half ago and just got stumped, so i will need a minute to remember what is going on with it, but i am still trying to cut corners so i have been putting that off lol

[tame junco]

hello,every body.i want to keep my donuts food forever,and i find some thing called"FridgeFactor",where can i edit it?

[harsh sapphire]

@teal coraliirc this is from Authentic Z, you'll first need to upgrade your backpack first. Check the crafting menu, I think it needs Tailoring 2 minimum plus denim/leather strips + a few others to upgrade.

[regal wave]

I have run into an issue with my mod.

Maybe some of you can help me? I want to make a "drainable" item be able to be filled with single items until it is full.

I´m explaining it in detail in the forum.

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/42353-how-to-fill-a-drainable-item/

[ivory lance]

oh xd

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[ruby urchin]

if you set <m_MasksFolder>none</m_MasksFolder> you shouldn't have any problem, you did restart the game to save the changes?

I also recommend making sure the UV map nodes are overlaid on the texture

[halcyon marlin]

@ruby urchin i made this video to show what is going on. i dont really know what else to try here. how can i check if the uv map nodes are on the texture properly?

[ruby urchin]

you can send me your blender file?

[halcyon marlin]

named after authenticpeach who helped me ages ago lol

[weary matrix]

@ivory lance I thought this might be of interest to you:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2670552173

[tardy knoll]

does anyone have the prostetic mod?

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/r9ceno/ignore_the_name_original_mod_i_created_concept

i couldn't find it anywhere

[blissful meteor]

It's just a concepr

Concept

[tardy knoll]

ahh

[ruby urchin]

Try with this, they should load correctly, I did notice you're modeling a female vest for a male, I added both either way, I thought maybe they could serve you, you just need add the armature to the model

[halcyon marlin]

what did you change?

just so i can have it for future reference if i make more custom meshes

[ruby urchin]

actually nothing, but try make your changes with those default models

[weary matrix]

do I have to do something particular to get my Lua code from lua/server to be called?

it seems it's just ignored

for example in console.txt I can see this:

LOG  : Mod ...> loading DebugLuaEvents
LOG  : Lua ...> Loading: ~/Zomboid/mods/DebugLuaEvents/media/lua/shared/DebugLuaEvents/DebugLuaEvents_Callbacks.lua
LOG  : Lua ...> Loading: ~/Zomboid/mods/DebugLuaEvents/media/lua/shared/DebugLuaEvents/DebugLuaEvents_Config.lua
LOG  : Lua ...> Loading: ~/Zomboid/mods/DebugLuaEvents/media/lua/shared/DebugLuaEvents/DebugLuaEvents_Register.lua
``` but I also have a file in lua/server/DebugLuaEvents except I don't see it loaded

is it only loaded when running a MP/Coop server ?

[radiant ginkgo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2675429658

[thorn horizon]

wheres the bridge in over the river

[dark shuttle]

I adore these unique skins

Especially when they get relatively obscure like a Ravencreek Transit PD

Imagine a Railroad Police car that spawns around the depot or something

[fair frost]

i actually did consider making Railroad Police

for area like Valley Station and few others

but for now its more on the back burner

[drifting ore]

All cars in my save have no seats any ideas which mod can cause it?

might not be right chat sorry

[winged comet]

How do I get mods on my pz? Like so I can use them ?

I found a few mods I want to use on steam but can’t figure out how to use them

[drifting ore]

Subscribe to them on steam, and then open the game and enable them in the mods option on the main menu

[supple shoal]

how does PZ deal with mods enabled mid-save?
to be more precise: if I get a mod that gives a backpack more capacity and weight reduction, does the backpack in my inventory update or do I need to find a freshly spawned version?

[winged comet]

I’ve done that with multiple mods, for example I added a hot bar mod that you turn on in keybinds. When I load into game and look in keybinds it’s not there and idk about everything else I added

[ruby urchin]

Anyone have some snippet about add a tile in a specific square?

[grizzled grove]

I believe azakaela does

[ruby urchin]

No worries, I already found it in ISMoveableSpriteProps

[abstract raptor]

@ruby urchin

This works pretty pretty good

[weary matrix]

@ruby urchin do you need to remove the tile at some point?

any clue if it's possible to write binary files to a save folder? Like zomboid/Saves/Apocalypse/07-12-2021_12-22-17/

[weary matrix]

I'm getting close to have a mod that when the game auto-save or when you press F5 it backups your current saved game 😄

(couldn't find yet how to write the backup over the save though)

[hollow shadow]

This is like journal mod but for singleplayer and better 😮

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow still have to fix a few issues but it should really be doable

could you show me that journal mod you're talking about?

is it Skill Recovery Journal?

[hollow shadow]

yep

[weary matrix]

ah yeah, better indeed 😄

[hollow shadow]

@sour island Skill recovery journal can be read multiple times by anyone right?

[terse matrix]

can someone give me the text files for the Bible CDs?

I wish to do some voice work with them.

Even though i have a bit of a gay lisp. the bible is something i have a very deep connection with.

[hollow shadow]

I think @abstract raptor might know

[terse matrix]

thank you, i merely wish to do an audio book of them and someone if they choose can add them to the game

[weary matrix]

@terse matrix check here maybe? lua/shared/Translate/EN/Recorded_Media_EN.txt

[terse matrix]

thanks.

[weary matrix]

any clue how to instanciate a byte[] array from Lua?

[terse matrix]

thank you co. I'm gonna go ahead and read them over and send them in this chat so you guys can add them

[weary matrix]

@terse matrix add what where?

[terse matrix]

some people may want to add audio to the CDs in PZ

I feel my voice is very unfitting for the bible readings but none the less i wish to be the one who reads them

[weary matrix]

oh ok

[terse matrix]

here is my reading of genesis

Yes i know my voice is terribley unfitting for this, but you know my connection with the bible is deep and rich and thats why i wanted to do it

You'd honstly expect a middle aged pastor with a deep voice instead of little old me with my femine voice.

people do say its very calming thought

[hollow shadow]

Sounds nice

[terse matrix]

thank you djvirus it means alot.

[signal hollow]

Wow, no it actually sounds pretty nice

good job mate

[kindred wind]

I'm trying to start modding and I am having some troubles getting the item to spawn. it loads it then just doesn't have it spawn. I've been looking across the internet for help but haven't been able to find any. I was following a video from 8 months ago but I cant tell if its outdated or i just missed something. even in the console it just acts like it is loaded but I cant find it in the necro forge devtool or where it should have been.

[terse matrix]

do you have debug on?

and do you check the error logs?

[kindred wind]

Ive checked the console.txt and it says LOG : Lua , 1638879841398> Loading: C:/Users/Fling/Zomboid/mods/Monster/Media/lua/server/items/Monst-Distributions.lua

then acts like everything is fine

[terse matrix]

You know you might wanna check for typos

when your modding those typos cqan get ya

one missing comma and nothing works.

[kindred wind]

yea I thought that but I've checked a few times with no results

[terse matrix]

have you checked the error logs though?

[kindred wind]

is that different from the console.txt?

[terse matrix]

yes.

[kindred wind]

ok ill see if i can find it.

[terse matrix]

Go into your user folder then find the zmobid file

then check logs

The dates are europian so the day goes first

also do you have debug on?

[kindred wind]

yea the debug files are here

[terse matrix]

No i mean do you have debug on in game?

[kindred wind]

im pretty sure but ill check

[terse matrix]

if you don't have the little bug icon then its not there

[hollow shadow]

If you had a typo then theres usually a red error box when you start the game. But if not. you can also show me a screenshot of your distribution file. Ill take a look

[kindred wind]

yea no debug mode but i just turned it on.

[terse matrix]

its ok fling, we love to help

[winter bolt]

maybe try turning the spawn rate to something ridiculously high just to test if it works?

[kindred wind]

the video looked much diff then the dist files that i had so i just did about what i thought was right but i thought i may have messed something up.

oof now looking at it im 100% sure i did

[winter bolt]

i think you might be overwriting the original dist tables?

you have to use the "insert" function im pretty sure

[hollow shadow]

uhhhhmmm

[winter bolt]

i dont have an example on me but try looking at the scripts from another item mod

[hollow shadow]

theres lots of holes in there :v

you need to put {

[kindred wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tZujOPnDw&t=1245s&ab_channel=Blackbeard this is the guide i was following as a base line but im pretty sure the way they do the spawning since has changed

[hollow shadow]

It did change

[kindred wind]

yea i thought so. i was just hoping it didnt lol.

[hollow shadow]

Where do you want your items to spawn?

[kindred wind]

well its a monster energy since it was the first drink that i could see a use for in game

so like gas stations and breakrooms

thanks for the help i think i can figure it out now.

[hollow shadow]

I think you should look into other mods and see how they do it. I recommend mods that updated recently.

[kindred wind]

yeas im looking at the mre one right now

would you know if there is a way to see the distribution lists?

never mind i found it

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk Do you still want to use these in your mod?

[kindred wind]

@hollow shadow thanks for the help i got everything working but the icons.

[hollow shadow]

Where did you place the icons?

[kindred wind]

the poster into the poster and the icon into textures under/in media

[hollow shadow]

Ok can i see a screenshot of your item script?

and the name of the icon picture?

[kindred wind]

https://gyazo.com/031cfca75caea88f377d6ad6071b47cc

[hollow shadow]

and the name of your icon in the texture folder?

[kindred wind]

Its item monster full with underscores between the words

[hollow shadow]

uhh

screenshot it too pls

[terse matrix]

@kindred wind maybe try all one word

[hollow shadow]

i think i almost know the issue i just need the exact name of the icon.png

[kindred wind]

https://gyazo.com/564652f151d7c7ecfa36a63d27da3dd2

[hollow shadow]

there we go

issue found

add Item_

infront of the picture name

so it would be Item_Item_Monster_Full

or you can remove "Item_" in the script

[hollow shadow]

Just change this to Monster_full,

[kindred wind]

i chnaged the name to item_monsterfull in the png and then the script to monsterfull and it still didnt work

[terse matrix]

@kindred wind remove the Item_

[hollow shadow]

the I needs to be big

Item not item

[kindred wind]

oh well it is still not working. its just gonna be a mod i use unless i fix it and the most someone will see if my friend when we remote play

[hollow shadow]

did you restart the game and save the edits?

[kindred wind]

imma double check but im pretty sure i did

yea nothing.

imma look more into it thanks for trying yall

i saw something about 3d modeling would i need those fore the icon ? it just says that youll need blender or the sorts then doesnt say anything else on the subject

i feel dumb about just diving into the deep end of modding

[hollow shadow]

thats vanilla when you have first aid level 4

[idle prawn]

thats an very old question xd

but thanks anyway dj

il get on lua when i get an new pc

[hollow shadow]

🤓

[lime hollow]

I'm wondering how to start with a mod I want to make, all the modding help stuff I'm finding is just for making custom items

I want to make pullable fire alarms for all non residential buildings, in the place that would be legal fire code standard.

I've poked around the files and tried to wade through the wiki but I'm not very good at working off of documentation

i thought about using the code/texture/models for light switches and modifying but idk I've never done much modding apart from some basic Bethesda game stuff

[minor island]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2675786278 gonna add some stuff once i get this uni semester finished but lmk what toppings i should add lol

[dark shuttle]

Which ones are in the mod already

I see pineapple already

Can of sardines maybe

Chicken

[minor island]

yeah there's pineapple, chili & nduja sausage so far. I'm gonna sit and make a couple more using vanilla ingredients tonight

i'll get sardines & chicken added tonight ty 😄

[dark shuttle]

You can forage mushrooms

So maybe that too

Ham slices

[minor island]

Oh in fact I do have ham as a topping it's on the hawaiian one but mushrooms is another good shout i'll definitely be adding that

[hollow shadow]

Can they be cut into slices ?

[minor island]

Not yet, I put that in the dev notes. Had to stop adding stuff to switch to uni work lol

[hollow shadow]

Ok

[minor island]

Definitely adding that too I didn't have time this morning. Just full pizzas so far

also ingredients/recipes will probably be swapped about a bit depending on what ends up being too easy/difficult to find etc all that jazz

[hollow shadow]

I have a hard time making bread in pz since the ingredients arent renewable

[blissful escarp]

Which is weird, you should be able to farm wheat

[minor island]

I have that issue with the canned tomato's I use for my marinara recipe but I'm sure there will be a workaround I haven't tried to solve it yet though

[dark shuttle]

There are mods that add yeast and wheat

[slate dagger]

yeast is in vanilla

but wheat could be argued is flour using vanilla

since it doesn’t say what kind of flour it is, but as far as growing wheat that would be neat.

that would require some modeling expertise

[teal rampart]

ahoi, wasn't there some mod that visualises how containers are being filled in the game upon opening them? (gives rolls etc)

[minor snow]

Is there a way to spawn container?

[teal rampart]

uhm... probably using the debug mode.

[minor snow]

And?

[teal rampart]

Can't tell right off my head... but you can probably spawn furniture using it

[minor snow]

Bruh, I know there may be a way, that's why I asking how...

[teal rampart]

ah, necroforge can do that for you

and i was looking for DistributionXposed B41.51

[brittle jewel]

I wasn't able to find much about 'UseForPoison', so I did some experimenting. This controls how much of the total poison is used each time the poison is added. For example: Bleach has 120 'PoisonPower' and 38 'UseForPoison' - 38 poison will be added each time, so a single bleach container will get 4 uses (3 full 38 power uses, and 1 use of 6 power). If you create an item with 10 'PoisonPower' and set 'UseForPoison' to 1, you will get 10 uses and each will add 1 poison.

[winged comet]

How do I even use mods? I have them subscribed and activated but they don’t work

[bright acorn]

Hey guys maybe a stupid question but does anyone know what's the meaning of the value returned from the IsoGridSquare:getVertLight() function? It returns some ints but I cant figure out what they represent because it doesn't seem as simple as higher # = more light

[ruby urchin]

public int getVertLight(final int n, final int n2) {
    return this.lighting[n2].lightverts(n);
}

[bright acorn]

Thanks Dislak, what file did you find that in? Im trying to find definitions for so many functions

[ruby urchin]

from descompiled files

[bright acorn]

Thanks!

[ruby urchin]

if you look higher in this same channel, you will find them, I think I posted them a couple of times

[bright acorn]

Took some searching but I found it xD that's so helpful thanks again!

[sullen fog]

Hopefully I am correct here. I am using several weapons mods and somehow they are acting weird using a suppressor. The suppressor works, as example for the FN SCAR-SC Extended Stock, fine with full auto, but not for single shot. Not sure if it's still working even if the sound is like a non-suppressed SCAR. Anyone had this issue before?

EDIT: Found the issue. A mod which changes the silencer volume killed the single-fire silencer.

[kindred wind]

@sullen fog what mod was it ?

[sullen fog]

Weapon mod is "Brita's Weapon Pack" and it seems the mod "Firearms B41" messed it up. At least it messed up the silencer while using single-fire on, I guess, all Britas weapons.

[kindred wind]

@sullen fog yea that sucks thanks for the info

[weary matrix]

I still have a problem with the location of the character, but otherwise I'm pretty satisfied with this 😄

unfortunately it seems it's not doable with pure Lua though 😦

I couldn't find any way to overwrite the saved files from Lua

[hollow shadow]

thats cool. im guessing its a solo only mod?

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow well I'm not sure I can publish it at all cause I had to modify a java .class file

like added some global LuaMethod that does the saving and loading, and calling that from mod

the mod itself is really short in return

50 lines of code, including frequent blank lines

want the patch? 😅

if you know how to compile Java stuff I can just send you the diff of the Java class I modified and the Lua code

[slate dagger]

interesting, so are you saving on load then loading that file?

[weary matrix]

well I do a forced save when pressing F5, but also backup the save OnPostSave (that is when the game quits or when you sleep basically)

[slate dagger]

ah

[weary matrix]

but I also hook OnPlayerDeath, in the handler I just set a flag playerIsDead = true, and in OnPostSave handler, if player is dead I load previous backup, otherwise I just save a new backup

[slate dagger]

ah

[weary matrix]

it's just this + the patch of the Java class Literature

[slate dagger]

so you modified the class to take F5 as a quick save

[weary matrix]

not really, I modified the class to add two global Java method (with the decorator LuaMethod), one is QuickSave(), the other is QuickLoad() (check the Lua you'll see)

[slate dagger]

cool, will do when at my pc

on my phone atm

[weary matrix]

the line Literature.QuickSave() should be a bit suspicious 😂

[hollow shadow]

Does it work with split screen?

[weary matrix]

I have no idea

[slate dagger]

probably

[weary matrix]

but I don't see a reason why it wouldn't

I just copy the save folder to another location, and overwrite it for loading the backed up game

[slate dagger]

yeah, seems pretty simple but neat

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow what would I have to do to make it work for MP/Coop etc?

[slate dagger]

probably modifying the save location for the server

assuming there is a difference

[weary matrix]

well I retrieve the current save with the global LuaMethod getLastSave() or something

[slate dagger]

but split is just a hosted save

[weary matrix]

so it just takes the current game

[hollow shadow]

You are asking me this as if I knew how to code lmao

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow well I know how to code but I have no idea what's required for MP

[hollow shadow]

Me too I dont have it

[weary matrix]

any clue if it's OK to publish mods that require modification of .class files?

i guess no but I don't have a clue really

at least the modification is safe, I just add some static method to an existing class, shouldn't interfere with anything

worst case the use check integrity with steam and it restore the game files

[slate dagger]

the big problem is an update

[willow estuary]

It's not against the rules as far as I know.
But be aware that any mod that requires the end user to modify/install/etc files seems to result in a lot of headaches for the mod publisher on account of people not reading/understanding/following the instructions.

[slate dagger]

would break it

[weary matrix]

@willow estuary good to know it's not a definitive no hehe

@slate dagger well for now I modified the Literature class cause it's the first one I found where it was not too hard

but there should be better class to patch, like some class that will probably not change much over time

[rough birch]

how i can create animation combat mod?

is possible?

[weary matrix]

and the Lua part could detect something is wrong (missing the methods) and display a message to explain what to do for example

@rough birch if you feel like learning how to animate characters I guess everything is possible, but it's not easy

[willow estuary]

Like, in this instance in particular, a "respawn character after death" mod, that will attract a lot of attention from people.
Including a lot of people that are new to PZ, etc, and even stuff like simply navigating the file structure directory can require a lot of instruction and hand holding from some users?

[weary matrix]

@willow estuary sure I understand that

[willow estuary]

Some modders have had bad experiences publishing mods that require that sort of end users involvement.

[weary matrix]

but at the same time I;m not sure TIS would agree to modify the game to allow modders to make backup mods

also maybe I could find a way that doesn't require patching an existing class, I'm not sure yet

playing with classloaders etc

so you'd have to run a script that set some variables and parameters and start the game, so no modification of the game files basically

@willow estuary big problem for example, to backup the save from Lua it's possible, but I couldn't find a better way than to copy every file in the save folder one byte at a time, and for loading the game you'd have to be able to write files to the save folder but I couldn't find any way to do that from Lua

TIS really seem to NOT want people to mess with the save files 😅

btw any clue how to get the coordinates of a cell? I tried with square:getCell().wx/wy but both are always zero in my case

[slate dagger]

i thought square had a getX()?

but I could be wrong

[willow estuary]

Off the top of my head, get the x/y coordinates of a square in the cell and divide by 300? Offset the result as necessary.
There's also getWorldX() andgetWorldY() in IsoCellbut I've never messed with them.

[weary matrix]

@slate dagger not for a square, for a cell

@willow estuary they just return the value of wx/wy and they were zero when I tried it

but some files in the save folder, have some cell coordinates

like zpop_X_Y.bin

the x/y are always very low, between 0 and 50 max from my tests

[ruby urchin]

Why self.items is a table in ISPlace3DItemCursor, is it possible drag more than one object at the same time?

Oh I see now, it's possible

[weary matrix]

yeah stacked items

also you can select multiple items from inventory panel

[craggy igloo]

So I have a question

Can someone help me find this mod? I’m certain I checked my mods and I don’t have a mod related to this

[solar peak]

didn't someone post it above?

sorry, in PZ chat

[craggy igloo]

None of them I had the mod of

No, your good I know what mods they showed it’s just that none of them I had the mod of

[solar peak]

just look up cure on the steam workshop and look for the little grey checkmark

you've downloaded one of them

XD

[craggy igloo]

Alrighty

Sorry sir

Don’t see any of the mods I downloaded

[slate dagger]

i know the source of that pic

More Traits

[craggy igloo]

Gasp

My savior

Finally

I know

I wonder what a trait mod is doing with powerful knowledge like this

[slate dagger]

good question

lots of items were added too

mostly that you learn how to craft

[teal rampart]

@weary matrix sorry for having you let down, i've not tested your decompiler

i have an uncanny feeling about overwriting distribution luas of mods

i reduced spawn rates of many items considerably

yet, when i load my modmod and their mod it seems like they are synergetic and increase spawn rate....

but that might be a false impression, yet, given i went from 1 to 0.01 the random number generator shouldnt be THAT funny

(and my modmod is last in the load order)

mhm

[slate dagger]

@teal rampart depends on how their mod and your mod is working honestly. How is your mod working?

[supple briar]

so , i want to retexture a shirt in game , i wanna put a pattern all over it , is their a way to save the shading on the shirt

[winter bolt]

if the original shirt is white then you could set the pattern layer to "multiply" or something like that

theres another method i can think of to put the shading back on top but its kind of complicated

[fresh geyser]

Sorry for the unrelated thing but once a server has mods and workshop IDs added how would one do a restart?

[supple briar]

Its one of the camo shirts so that wont work sadly , thanks anways though

[winter bolt]

actually i think camo shirts have the same shading as regular ones

you could take a white shirt texture and set it to multiply and see if it works

[fresh geyser]

Would a soft reset allow mods? ^^

[warm yacht]

Does anybody here play with Brita

[dark shuttle]

Yeah

[warm yacht]

Has he/she messed around the loot spawns do you find?

[dark shuttle]

In what way

It works on the latest beta just fine and there are mod options to adjust the loot spawn rates etc.

[warm yacht]

Well I found a medium ammo box with 26 boxes of 5.56 it's over 500 rounds kinda of ruined my save lol

[dark shuttle]

That's how brita is

I was actually just wondering why there aren't 3D placeable models for the ammo canisters in the arsenal mod. They appear in your hands.

[warm yacht]

Oh really I just remember it being a bit or scarce that's all

[dark shuttle]

They're so big and bulky id prefer to stack them in a corner vs stuffing them in a shelf

[dark shuttle]

You can adjust the settings

But if you find an ammo canister there is usually several boxes inside it

[warm yacht]

I don't mind 4 to 7 boxes, but 26 literally just go hot pickle every where xD

[dark shuttle]

That's like 17 full mags. It seems like a lot but I could burn through it pretty quick

[hollow shadow]

Not updated

[hollow shadow]

This why i no use brita, i find army base armory stuffed in a kitchen sink of some trailer

[warm yacht]

Might just up the zeds to compensate I guess

Yeah ill have a play with the settings when I get home

I'm looking at vanilla + looks awesome

Craftable suppressors is a must tho, even if you could get 10-30 shots out of it

[supple shoal]

do the suppressors work?

There's someone on steam who commented that they don't on a bunch of weapon mods, including Brita's

haven't gotten around to crafting some in my run (using the Firearms mod) to test myself...

[dark shuttle]

Arsenal or brita or whatever come with its own suppressors and stuff

You can't mix and match suppressor and weapons mods with brita/arsenal if that's what you mean

[supple shoal]

let me grab a screenshot

that's from the Firearms B41 mod page (the only one I'm using)

Kinda made me worry there's something borked in general with suppressors...

[hollow shadow]

There is

[hollow shadow]

He prolly playing on b40 or something

[supple shoal]

well, I guess I'll see once I dare shooting in my current run

[amber fossil]

Is it possible to change what category an item belongs to or would that mess up recipes/cause errors in other places etc.,?

[weary matrix]

@teal rampart hey no worrie man

[winter bolt]

if you use the item tweaker mod api then i think it'll just break existing saves?

i'm not sure about recipes but most mods that change item categories seem to work fine

[amber fossil]

@winter bolt I was mainly wanting to change the item category for organization purposes. For example, one mod adds a few different medicines however all of them fall under the 'item' category rather than the 'medical' or 'drugs' categories.

[winter bolt]

ohh thats what you meant

yeah i think it works fine

you could download this mod and see how they did it

1 sec

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2313387159&searchtext=better+sorting

[amber fossil]

I actually already use that lol, I'll have to open it up and take a look

@winter bolt It looks like, based on how Better Sorting does support for mods, I can just copy the lua template used and input the relevant data very easily. Thank you for the suggestion to check that mod out this looks to be far easier than I thought.

[winter bolt]

np lol, hope it goes well

[bold cobalt]

They work on Brita's, at least they did two weeks ago. I mean the ones that come with Brita's

[bold cobalt]

Not sure about the Firearms B41 mod, but I just cleared Fort Redstone with a suppressed MP5 from Brita's.

[craggy isle]

Is there a gun mod for MP rn? I host a server and I've been looking to add something like that

[warm yacht]

B40?

[craggy isle]

yes

[warm yacht]

Not sure buddy

[warm yacht]

Can I have the link please

[hot patrol]

Out of curiosity is is possible to have a weapon weigh the same on your back as it does in your hands? I had someone ask me to do this for my mod but I don't even see that in the configs

[winter bolt]

i remember ORGM used to be the go-to gun mod before b41 but i'm not sure if its for b40?

its still on the workshop so you can find it and check

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=514618604&searchtext=ORGM+

[craggy isle]

I know as an admin you can edit an item, rename it and change all of its stats. I made a rifle that weighs 0

[craggy isle]

Thank you, I'll check it out and see if it works

[weary matrix]

@hot patrol not sure, have you checked about WeightModifier?

[hot patrol]

I don't see that in my weapon configs

just weight

[weary matrix]

@hot patrol ``` item x2Scope
{
Type = WeaponPart,
DisplayName = x2 Scope,
Icon = Scope2x,
Weight = 0.3,
WeightModifier = 0.3,
MaxRangeModifier = 7,
MinRangeModifier = 6,
MountOn = HuntingRifle; VarmintRifle; AssaultRifle; AssaultRifle2,
PartType = Scope,
Tooltip = Tooltip_Scope,
MetalValue = 22,
WorldStaticModel = Rifle_2XScope_Ground,
}

[hot patrol]

ah, alright. Nice

thank you

[weary matrix]

not sure it's what you're looking for though

let us know

[hot patrol]

I think it is. I imagine that is the weight reduction modifier. If so I can just reduce the overall weight and have 0 reduction to the modifier

I will have to test it

[weary matrix]

@hot patrol I'm thinking it might just be the modifier for the weight of the weapon, like a weapon with a weight of 10 will weight 13 with this equipped?

[hollow shadow]

In the same mod

Firearms b41

[hot patrol]

No, That one is just called weight. At least it is for my weapon

    {
        MaxRange    =    2,
        WeaponSprite    =    DragonSlayer,
        MinAngle    =    0.8,
        Type    =    Weapon,
        MinimumSwingTime    =    0.5,
        HitFloorSound    =    clang,
        ImpactSound    =    clang,
        DoorHitSound = clang,
        HitSound    =    clang,
        SwingSound = KatanaSwing,
        KnockBackOnNoDeath = TRUE,
        SwingAmountBeforeImpact    =    0.02,
        Categories    =    LongBlade,
        Weight    =    50,
        ConditionLowerChanceOneIn    =    100,
        PushBackMod    =    0.5,
        SubCategory    =    Swinging,
        ConditionMax    =    10,
        MaxHitCount    =    10,
        DoorDamage    =    999,
        SwingAnim    =    Bat,
        CriticalChance    =    35,
        CritDmgMultiplier = 6,
        DisplayName    =    Dragon Slayer,
        MinRange    =    0.98,
        SwingTime    =    2,
        HitAngleMod    =    -30,
        KnockdownMod    =    0,
        Icon    =    DragonSlayer,
        RunAnim    =    Run_Weapon2,
        BreakSound  =   KatanaBreak,
        TreeDamage  =   999,
        CriticalChance    =    30,
        CritDmgMultiplier = 10,
        MinDamage    =    999,
        MaxDamage    =    999,
        BaseSpeed = 0.9,
        WeaponLength = 0.3,
        DamageCategory = Slash,
        DamageMakeHole = TRUE,
        TwoHandWeapon = TRUE,
        WeaponLength = 0.4,
        AttachmentType = Shovel,
    }
} ```

[hollow shadow]

Yea

It was perfectly balanced

Like all things should be

You would find balanced loot spawns

[weary matrix]

@hot patrol in HandWeapon.java:

this.setWeight(this.getWeight() + weaponPart.getWeightModifier());```

[hollow shadow]

But i didnt use it since b41

[winter bolt]

idk i never used it lol

i just recognised the name

the only gun mods i use are vanilla+ type ones

[hot patrol]

ok so that's in an entirely different area, gotcha. Hmm...

[weary matrix]

@hot patrol why would you need this anyway?

[hot patrol]

The person commenting on the mod asked if I could have the sheathed weight the same as the in hand weight because the sword is far too heavy. Thing is that is kind of the point. You see the stats, the think is a beast and I thought the best way to balence it is to make is only really usable with good strength and carrying little to no loot

so honestly I don't think it's worth changing it but I thought I should at least look into it

maybe I will tweak the weight

[craggy isle]

Quick question guys and I'll be out of your hair. When installing multiple mods on a server host (this case Nitrado), you sperate the mods with a ";" not a "," and a space correct? In the config file?

[hot patrol]

ok so I modified the weight of my sword from 50 to 40. This puts puts you to only a heavy load when it is on your back with no gear at level 10 strength. Obviously that is still insane but it does make it much more usable in that special use case.

What do you guys think?

again this is super OP so I think it needs to be very heavy to match. at the end of the day it's a meme mod.

I don't really expect most people to actually use it on a normal run

but idk maybe I am better off toning it all down so it is more viable

[weary matrix]

@hot patrol Make it a bit less op maybe?

[hot patrol]

yea, it's certainly a thought. I'm kinda torn on it tho. On one hand I like it being just absolutely ridiculous since it's very much in line with how it is in the manga but on the other hand it does really limit it's use case to only being a meme which I think is where the problem lies with people who want to actually use it on a normal run.

[hollow shadow]

I think its ; with no spaces between the mods and a , at the very end

altho i think spaces might not affect it at all

[craggy isle]

Thank you, I'll try that. However, I have some players on the server. Should I wait until its empty or restart it and have them log in at all

[hollow shadow]

Either wait or inform the somehow with a countdown

[craggy isle]

Is there a tutorial for setting up a count down? I saw one on GODz server but idk how to do that (sorry, I'm new to this)

[hollow shadow]

idk i never hosted a server before

[craggy isle]

Hell yeah! It works on the server beautifully, THANK YOU!

[winter bolt]

nice

[low crest]

anyone know if this game would support a mechanic to dig tunnels into the ground and actually affect the map??

[hot patrol]

100% no

I highly doubt it

[low crest]

ok but if it can't actually affect the map it could teleport you to a "tunnel" where there are functions to "dig" in any direction

[hot patrol]

this is possible. Someone is actually working on it

[low crest]

oh!

who?

[worldly olive]

The reason why there are not undergrounds is because of map limitations.
The only "possible" way is what you just mentioned of doing a teleport to some empty place in the map.
There's a mod that's actually in progress If I'm not wrong by Azakaela and Aiteron that uses that logic

[hot patrol]

I can't remember off the top of my head but they've posted footage on here a few times

[worldly olive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7pe2ZrqYc

[low crest]

oh okay, sorry if my question was redundant

[hot patrol]

of course it would be the modding powerhouses

how couldI forget

[sharp crystal]

Hi. Is it possible to adjust the position of the hot bar which is on the bottom of the screen? I have looked for it in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\client\ISUI

But with no luck

[craggy isle]

Which is the mod that lets players claim cars?

[abstract raptor]

workin on it

It prolly won'

t be ready for a while

[weary matrix]

assuming I create a new item, let's say Grass Clippings, would it be easy/doable to change the "Remove Herb" action so that you gain grass clippings whenever you remove herb without modifying the action itself?

[abstract raptor]

You'll basically be able to dig a hole anywhere, and it'll teleport you to a 1 cell underground area where you'll be able to dig the walls

and you'll be able to find stuff like ores

and you'll also be able to dig back up to make a tunnel to the surface

[ruby urchin]

lol zomboidcraft

[craggy isle]

What is the best car mod for B40 multiplayer?

or military/police vehicles

[echo leaf]

b40 mp, lol

[sudden vigil]

you think it's possible to make a ragdoll physics on zomboid?

[craggy isle]

So thats a no...

[ruby urchin]

Surely yes, but not from lua side

[sudden vigil]

well would it be possible to mod it into lua?

[tame mulch]

no. Even by java it will be fps killer

[sudden vigil]

rip

[zealous wing]

So, I have 410 installed mods. 😄

I think that might be a record.

[hollow shadow]

Proof?👀🤔

[winter bolt]

fillibuster's cars has a b40 version im pretty sure

[craggy isle]

thank you

[zealous wing]

lel

Like 1/5th are patches to get the other 4/5ths to work but still 😄

[drifting ore]

Hello frands.

I'm looking at modifying some mods for a server I want to host, keeping the traditional credits to those that deserve it.

But for example the Dragon Slayer mod, admits it OP and made absurdly heavy.

I want to more streamline it.

[tame mulch]

b40?

[drifting ore]

B41.

Should I wait?

[hollow shadow]

How are you playing b41 multiplayer?

[lost slate]

https://www.reddit.com/r/projectzomboid/comments/p3fwwx/to_be_clear_about_attempts_to_hack_multiplayer/

[drifting ore]

The Cosmic Principles.

Time really is just an illusion.

Seriously speaking, its all preparing for it being released. We live stream and watch each other while playing atm.

[hollow shadow]

you would have to reupload the edited version to workshop so the others download the mod automaticly

and for this you would have to ask the mod creator if its ok

[drifting ore]

No I would not.

That implies they copy righted anything, I am more versed in LAW than you.

Lets try this again -- honestly.

This time respond to me with integrity on the original question.

If I intended to 'charge' I would care about that.

If I intended to take credit for their work, or their lives, I might care.

I'll be alive long after all this, that's silly.

[willow estuary]

The Indie Stone has removed unauthorized reuploads of mods from the steam workshop at the original author's request.

[drifting ore]

Adorable, It'd hardly pause or stop anything.

As a server join request will auto-redownload that servers' mods.

"Try harder".

I mean, i've crushed your kinds' Gods.

At least amuse me if you intend to be defiant.

Or learn to be truly civil and courteous.

In either arena, you're losing as we speak.

I have three people that want a seamless experience.

That is all I care about presenting.

A few seams were uneven due to poor design.

Troubling the original creator is silly for so few.

[hollow shadow]

Im very certain it does not do this unless its on the workshop

you could try setting the mod visibility to "friends-only" but im not sure if that would work either

[weary matrix]

YESSSSSS 😄

[hollow shadow]

?

[weary matrix]

I found a way to make a Java mod that does not break on game update!!!! And that does not break either when the user checks integrity of files through Steam 😄

[fallow bridge]

Wtf happened in here

[hollow shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[hollow shadow]

idk i cant tell if the guy above is serious or trolling but eh

[weary matrix]

and my QuickSave mod is working!!!!!!

[hollow shadow]

Yay

[weary matrix]

oh man I'm sooooo happy 😄 😄 😄

[fallow bridge]

I’m referring to the Thoth guy

Oh btw he left

[hollow shadow]

Yeah i meant him

[fallow bridge]

Unsure if it was a ban or just left

[hollow shadow]

you thought i meant co xD?

[fallow bridge]

Yee

[hollow shadow]

How do you know

[fallow bridge]

Check his servers

[hollow shadow]

your mod might make the splitscreen with 20 fps worth a try again. Cant be bothered to read 40 recipe magazines and journal each time i die

[fallow bridge]

He doesn’t have any mutual servers and I can’t ping him

[hollow shadow]

i see

[fallow bridge]

He went from zero to “I’m more VERSED” than you real quick

[hollow shadow]

yeah it was so fast that i wasnt sure if troll or serious

[fallow bridge]

I’m not sure either

[hollow shadow]

anyone know if its possible to make a belt where you can attach weapons or items, but they dont add hotkeys? @willow estuary maybe you know?

also wondering if its possible to increase or decrease their weight reduction when attached?

[weary matrix]

@hollow shadow I still have to write a .bat file to make it work on Windows

gnite all

[quick oyster]

Does nocturnal zombies still work?

[hollow trail]

Has anyone gotten the playable skeleton thing working?

[ruby urchin]

lmao this kid

[winter bolt]

theres no way a real human talks like this lmao

[narrow delta]

I have a problem using a sledgehammer. I get an error when I try to destroy anything. Yes, I play mods, I can link to the mod package I'm using

[weary matrix]

Hello

@slate dagger I did it! 😄

[errant meteor]

Get ready modders, you will now be flooded with will it work with 41.60 :]

[winter bolt]

i'm already testing mine lmao

[hollow oyster]

Do you guys know where to find Louisville?

[teal forum]

@bronze tapir

[bronze tapir]

[teal forum]

[bronze tapir]

Mummy

I are...

feerce

[full bramble]

Is It ThE MoDaCoLyPsE NoW LiKe OmG UpDaTe pLs wOrK fOr FrEe

[thin junco]

Everyone including my beloved hydrocraft will come back now

[blazing radish]

holy shit

finally

[weary matrix]

Oh my

HO HO HO

😂

Cool my Beautiful-Java decompiler still works with 41.60 😄

[mortal widget]

I have no idea how modding works for this game, are a lot of these previous mods going to need updating or should some still work? I plan on playing vanilla until everybody is all caught up but yeah I don't know

[weary matrix]

@mortal widget hard to say without trying actually, but its a very focused update, so hopefully it should just add new stuff, not breaking existing stuff

[slate dagger]

@weary matrix congratz!

[weary matrix]

@slate dagger so to sum it up:
✅ Find a way to inject custom Java code in pz without touching any game file
✅ Find a way to survive file integrity check from Steam
✅ Add global Java functions accessible from Lua
✅ Implement QuickSave mod

🥳 🎄 🤶

[lost yoke]

So are you guys currently testing mods on multi-player servers?

[weary matrix]

For now I'm just checking if any of my mod breaks with new update 😅

SP

[lost yoke]

I loaded my old save with like 80 mods and 8 manual installed on SP and it loaded fine...but then in pz tech support they said dont

Then I have this

[mortal widget]

I'll stick with vanilla for now, thank you Co you are always helpful : )

[weary matrix]

OK, Out the window, still working, quick item action too, but the spear traps no 😦

[willow estuary]

"Some Mods Will Work And Some Won't"
Exactly what he said.

[lost yoke]

Fair enough...my apologies

[late hound]

AuthenticZ and the Fashion Montage mod have been tested to be functional with MP. They just have to be enabled by the Host. Make sure you have them downloaded yourself.

[brittle jewel]

Having issues with the ini file for my mod. I think I'll just convert it over to work with the sandbox settings...

[lost yoke]

Appreciate the update sir

[weary matrix]

All right, Javadoc for new release is available here: https://quarantin.github.io/zomboid-javadoc/41.60/

[bronze cedar]

Custom zombies doesn't seem to work :( hope it gets updated . I like to have mostly fast shambles with a sprinkle of sprinters

[errant meteor]

Hey shark is your stuff good?

[hot patrol]

is it possible to have a limited version of FM so that is removes the OP stuff? I want to have that for more customization but I don't want people starting with mil bags and camo

[weary matrix]

new Lua events:

+       AddEvent("OnWeatherPeriodStart");
+       AddEvent("OnWeatherPeriodStage");
+       AddEvent("OnWeatherPeriodComplete");
+       AddEvent("OnWeatherPeriodStop");
+       AddEvent("OnWorldSound");```

[ruby urchin]

I would like devs add more events

[unreal carbon]

Have a good amount of mods. All adding new cars and new locations. Came across an issue where I'm able to walk through police barricades. Was able to patch that by adding eerie county a while ago but now that mod doesn't seem to fix the barriers. Anyone know what could be the issue here? Also discovered using a shotgun on a 100 zeds levels up my aiming skill by 4 so not sure if that is a bug or apart of a patch

[willow estuary]

That's a vanilla issue AFAIK; sometime spawned in barricades, like the ones from vehicle stories, can be walked through.

[unreal carbon]

I see.

[lost yoke]

@unreal carbon is your mod list stable besides noclipping barricades

[late hound]

I am not the creator on the Fashion Montage mod. So no.

[weary matrix]

All right just fixed my spear traps mod 😅

[summer stump]

Probably someone already said this but: Mods from the latest IWBUMS build will need to be updated for multiplayer or they'll work as normal? Did too many things change that they'll need to have major coding overhauls or something?

[bronze cedar]

Depends on mod

[summer stump]

Which kind of mods will need to be updated?

No need to get too deep, just a quick information about it should suffice

[lost yoke]

@summer stump

[summer stump]

Thank you @lost yoke

[lost yoke]

Of course!

[bronze cedar]

Only the creators of the mods will really know at this point until the masses starts reporting whats broke and what's not

[lost yoke]

I'm going to be testing mods tonight after 9pm pst

I'm not a mod maker but I dabble

[bronze cedar]

some mods wont even let you launch server , others let you launch but don't function at all

[lost yoke]

Good to know

Any update about manual installation mods?

Like how to get them on server?

[bronze cedar]

I know nothing about manual mods

[lost yoke]

Shite

[hot patrol]

oh damn, my bad

[unreal carbon]

I hope so. Surviving 3 days in RC so far. Have a base filled with food and working on clearing a beach in another corner of the map. Would hate to lose the character because of a crash. Probably will die b4 that happens if it does

Certain I'm able to max my aiming skill in a day if i decide to blast zombie with the shotgun so that skill is unbalanced but have not crashed and everything else in the game works fine

[lost yoke]

@unreal carbon do you have brittas?

[unreal carbon]

Nope have only vanilla weapon

Sorry, lied. Have weapons added by swatpack

[slender wraith]

I hope someone makes a quick LV or quarantine spawn point mod, i arrived to the gates all fucked up

[clear lodge]

Is the multiplayer patch supporting mod support at the moment?

[craggy isle]

Anyone install b41 on a hosted served like nitrados? I'm trying to convert my 24/7 server to the new MP build and was wondering if anyone had success yet

[stiff scaffold]

for the most part

some things broke or became obsolete i.e eris' minimap mod

now theres an actual map and minimap in the game

arsenal26's gunfighter mod also has a conflicting hotkey (M)

though its a non issue and you can easily rebind either the map key or the mod's M key

[pearl echo]

has the games optimization been fixed? cause with zombies i doubt anyones gonna be able to play in louisville or the area around it since it will just be frozen forever

[stiff scaffold]

what do you mean?

i think it's okay optimization wise? i know you need to lower the blood decal setting cause for some reason it can cause quite a hit

not too sure about louisville though

but i doubt its gonna be bad unless you crank up the zombie pop modifier to the max

im curious if the fast reading mod broke, though. it works in singleplayer but for some reason doesn't seem to work in multiplayer

[vocal ivy]

what mods are working for some people so far? maps should be fine no?

[stiff scaffold]

supposedly

maps, cars, weapons, weapons

addons, basically

[late hound]

So there was a new tag that got applied to all vanilla items in the MP update. It's nothing major. It seems that this tag provides an additional layer of categorization to items. I logged them all in this list below:

        DisplayCategory = Cooking, (cooking items)
        DisplayCategory = ToolWeapon, (handaxe, etc)
        DisplayCategory = Food, (canned to fresh)
        DisplayCategory = Cartography, (maps)
        DisplayCategory = Household, (umbrellas, soaps, towels, extinguisher etc)
        DisplayCategory = Material, (paperclips, tape, glues etc)
        DisplayCategory = Junk, (dolls, cd, toothbrush, misc) 
        DisplayCategory = Accessory, (watches, rings)
        DisplayCategory = FirstAid, (med items
        DisplayCategory = Appearance, (makeups and dyes)
        DisplayCategory = Communications, (radios)
        DisplayCategory = Raccoon, (for spiffos)
        DisplayCategory = WaterContainer, (for water bottles)
        DisplayCategory = Water, (For water paint bucket,)
        DisplayCategory = Bag, (for regular bags)
        DisplayCategory = Container, (For hand bags)
        DisplayCategory = Trapping, (traps)
        DisplayCategory = Fishing, (fishing tools and tackles)
        DisplayCategory = Camping, (firekits)
        DisplayCategory = Gardening, (seeds
        DisplayCategory = WeaponPart, (firearm attachments)
        DisplayCategory = Security, (keys and locks)
        DisplayCategory = Devices, (bombs/molotovs)
        DisplayCategory = Electronics, (for phones, lightbulbs, video games)
        DisplayCategory = Sports, (balls)
        DisplayCategory = Tool, (tongs, saws, needles etc)
        DisplayCategory = Ammo,

        DisplayCategory = Hidden, (Metal drum)
        DisplayCategory = LightSource, (for flashlights, matches/lighters)
        DisplayCategory = Furniture, (for movable furniture)
        DisplayCategory = SkillBook, (For skill books and magazines)
        DisplayCategory = VehicleMaintenance, (gas cans, car parts
        DisplayCategory = Instrument, (instruments)
        DisplayCategory = WeaponCrafted, (spear attachments)
        DisplayCategory = Literature, (For normal books, magazines, comics)
        DisplayCategory = Corpse, (for zombie bodies)
        DisplayCategory = ZedDmg, (Zombie damage textures)
        DisplayCategory = Bandage , (Bandage textures)
        DisplayCategory = Wound, (wound textures)

Here is an example of how you can utilize this tag in your mods:

    item KatePic
    {
        DisplayCategory = Junk,
        Weight    =    0.2,
        Type    =    Normal,
        DisplayName    =    Picture of Kate,
        Icon    =    PictureKate,
        WorldStaticModel = KatePic,
    }

[willow estuary]

Sorry, we're going to be fussier about this on account of how busy this channel is with MP dropping, but please restrict discussion here to mod-related matters 🙂

[full bramble]

@stiff scaffold what do you mean by these? Or, whats an example of not this? like expanded helicopter?

[drifting ore]

has anyone been able to get the Autotsar mods working? I'm getting a missing file error: AutotsarFixing.txt missing

[stiff scaffold]

i haven't got the chance to test expanded helicopter mod

[drifting ore]

I'm assuming we just need to wait for an update though

[stiff scaffold]

but in theory it should work

like i said

addon type mods should work if their systems dont interfere/work in conjunction with multiplayer systems

like guns for example

[drifting ore]

yeah, I have about 30 mods currently running on our server, working without any issues so far. sadly I did have to purge a lot of mods from the list though, even some long-standing ones that have worked for a while (Bedford Falls for ex)

but there's plenty that are working great. Raven Creek is working, so is Grapeseed, Camp Hill (and the other 3/4 by that author) etc

[stiff scaffold]

ive narrowed our mod list

arsenal26 gunfighter
brita's weapon pack
brita's armor pack
CC faster reading
Health bars
Mod Options
Spawn Car Windows
Weapon condition indicator
filibuster rhymes used cars BETA
arsenal26 vehicle addon (an addon for Fillbuster's cars)

its only missing sandbox+, expanded helicopters, craft helper, radial menu fix and some cars

so nothing game changing

[drifting ore]

all of the KI5 vehicle mods are working for me also, fyi. ('90 Lada Niva, etc)

[stiff scaffold]

i'd love to get those

but i really hate downloading stuff individually

i'd rather have them bundled

too lazy lol

1 issue though

mod versions and game versions might be an issue

for example brita's weapon pack

https://stonedape.isagamer.xyz/screens/vVIXde0.png

it doesnt allow you to join if versions mismatch

even though... it doesnt really need an update lol

[late hound]

re-sub to the mod

[stiff scaffold]

i just redownloaded them all

so theyre quite up to date

[unreal carbon]

Expanded helicopter events works fine for me in singleplayer

[late hound]

then host is behind then

[stiff scaffold]

nope

he redownloaded them as well

[sullen fog]

wait, brita is working for you? It just gives me error when trying to shoot

[stiff scaffold]

is it not?

lemme try

[sullen fog]

oh.. then I just read it wrong. 😄

[stiff scaffold]

yeah like i said i havent got the chance to test all of them

hmm

health bar, brita's weapons and weapon condition indicator

these dont work

[sullen fog]

Ah, good to know. Kinda bad that I only have britas weapons in my storage.

[stiff scaffold]

https://mussy.is-very.cool/screens/SXDFO6o.png

dont worry lol

dude woke up to fix it

[drifting ore]

Fillbuster's cars are broken?

[stiff scaffold]

gonna test that rn

[sullen fog]

Anyone using a lot of map mods here? If yes.. do you know any map mods giving issues with Louisville?

[drifting ore]

Raven Creek working fine for me

[stiff scaffold]

https://mussy.is-very.cool/screens/YG57wZP.png

[drifting ore]

Brita gotta be fixed ASAP.

[stiff scaffold]

well

all we can do is wait

the author literally just got around to it

[drifting ore]

yea

lmfao

[stiff scaffold]

they woke up the homie and got him to work

🗿

[drifting ore]

When we least expect it, the update arrived, not complaining but totally took most of us by surprise yknow lol

[drifting ore]

yea lol

[stiff scaffold]

https://mussy.is-very.cool/screens/pU0yOo0.png

[drifting ore]

Dayum lmao every mod author on the workshop getting tons of requests and messages to update their mods

[stiff scaffold]

its like a mob of black friday shoppers approaching

[drifting ore]

yes

[sullen fog]

Not sure but Bedford is kinda working for me.

[craggy isle]

Has anyone set up their hosted server with the new b41 mp? How do i do that or is the new build for PC hosting only with whitelist

does ORGM mod work with the new MP?

[quasi geode]

nope. doesnt work with build 41

[lyric surge]

Has anyone figured out how to fix the version mismatch error?

[lost yoke]

Or tested any vehicle mods?

[stiff scaffold]

you dont

wait for modders to update their mods

[patent violet]

Anyone know if the Cheat Menu works? I'm trying to test out all my mods, but i would like to spawn the items i want to check in to see if they work

[drowsy pilot]

Y’all got zero patience

[verbal oxide]

Cheat Menu works fine for me on 41.60

[patent violet]

Couldn't get it to work earlier but it seems to work now.

[worldly olive]

Does somebody knows what could this be? It is triggered once a player swings the weapon, I'm calling that function with the Events.OnWeaponSwing.Add(tweaksToSwingWeapon);
Let's say that I swing the weapon, the lua error doesn't occur to me, it does occur to other player in the server, if the other player swings the weapon the error is for me

function: tweaksToSwingWeapon -- file: DTGeneralTweaks.lua line # 85

ERROR: General , 1639097524316> 33.943.992> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: __lt not defined for operand at KahluaUtil.fail line:82.
ERROR: General , 1639097524317> 33.943.992> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: __lt not defined for operand

This does not occur in a splitscreen game

[lost yoke]

@stiff scaffold @drifting ore did you two come up with an idea of what works and what doesn't? I realize hydrocraft, britas and arsenal dont

[stiff scaffold]

health bars and weapon condition indicator dont either

plenty of mods broke

[drifting ore]

here's the list of what we're using on my server currently. only 3 errors pop up in the error notification upon hosting the server, I believe they are 2x texture errors but haven't confirmed yet. one friend has been able to successfully connect to the server with this mod list, we're waiting on really digging in to the game until the rest of our group gets home from work though

expect this list to be very tentative, things may break between when I posted this list and when you read it. chances are things are going to be up and down as far as mod stability over the next few weeks

[lost yoke]

If you could keep me posted I would much appreciate you

[drifting ore]

unfortunately the Autotsar mods are not working, or they weren't when I tested them an hour or two ago. they load in the mod list fine, but when you try to connect to the server you get a missing file error (autotsarfixing.txt i believe)

I've also removed about 20-30 others from my usual modlist that weren't working, including (sadly) bedford falls, xonic's mega mall, lake ivy township, and lots more

also, just fyi, the list I posted above is NOT a comprehensive list of all working B41 MP mods. these are just the ones I've personally tested and confirmed to be working on my server

[oak ocean]

All map mods working here, Xonics, lake ivy, bedford. redstone, knox, over the river, west point expansion. grapeseed, eds auto garage + more.

[drifting ore]

multiplayer server, using the dedicated tool? or are you single player on the new build?

I've heard confirmation that they work in SP

[oak ocean]

MP server with 3 people

[drifting ore]

interesting, thanks for the info

[oak ocean]

Are they appearing in your "Map" section when you add them?

[drifting ore]

OTR, bedford, redstone, xonics, and lake ivy all gave me version mismatch errors, even after unsubbing to them, restarting steam, and resubbing

[oak ocean]

how odd

That's you connecting to a server? or hosting?

[drifting ore]

hosting, via dedicated tool. I set it up using the in-game "Host" option, launch the server to confirm it works correctly, and then close it up to launch in dedicated with the appropriate settings

[oak ocean]

Ah, i'm just hosting using ingame and friends connecting that way.

No dedicated tool.

[drifting ore]

I'll try them out again later in the week after the dust has settled, and after our group has inevitably died gruesome deaths and is ready for a fresh world 😄

appreciate the insight! I'm off to try surviving, our group is READY. have fun all

[final talon]

anyone know if fashion montage works?

[late hound]

I am pasting this, as this question is being repeated:
AuthenticZ and the Fashion Montage mod have been tested to be functional with MP. They have to be enabled by the Host. Make sure you have them downloaded yourself.

[carmine brook]

All my mods that are not map mods or animation mods seem to work error free

[worldly olive]

This seems to be failing on MP
player:getModData().DTObtainLoseActiveSedentary = player:getModData().DTObtainLoseActiveSedentary + 1;

Weird thing is, I have others modData and they seems to work fine. This is the only one that throws lua error 🤔 What could be wrong here?

[autumn valley]

Is there any way to MOD and bring back foraging?

[full bramble]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2677920531&searchtext=

[marsh beacon]

This channel really became tech support 2

[willow estuary]

Steam updating of mods seems to have gone really downhill over the past half year IMO?

Well, servers versions not matching clients version for anticheat wasn't an issue until MP was released?
It's a MP only thing.

• half of the mods people are using are being randomly updated as the modders catch up, so servers + clients not having matching versions will be a product of that aggravated by the sluggish workshop uploads?