mod_development

[hazy owl]

so in pleb terms - a lot of coding

[fallow bridge]

Yes

[hazy owl]

and I guess a lot of visual related stuff

[fallow bridge]

You could make it so instead of new icons the game just uses 3d models? I think DayZ does something like that

[hazy owl]

of course

[fallow bridge]

Problem with that system would everything would get loaded once you open your inventory, or another objects inventory, which would cause potential fps issues

[hazy owl]

well yeah but its 2021 and hardware eats pz for breakfast mostly, of course there is an amount of ppl with older rigs..

[fallow bridge]

People with good hardware even have issues with PZ.

[craggy furnace]

PZ loves to run everything at once

and does not utilize resources well at all

[fallow bridge]

Yep

[craggy furnace]

being a java game doesnt help its case

[fallow bridge]

I guess you could make a highly detailed 2d drawing of everything you can put into your inventory

Problem is

That's a LOT of items

[red dirge]

I bet a person with a NASA computer would have issues with PZ

[fallow bridge]

You'd probably be correct

[craggy furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXsmGSnq3lE this one goes out to every PC trying to run PZ at 60 fps

[hazy owl]

I actually fixed all my issues the moment I discovered I can allocate more RAM to the game

[fallow bridge]

Mods advise against that though

[hazy owl]

well I guess but pz with 50-70 mods runs at 90fps

[fallow bridge]

And sometimes that makes the fps worse

[hazy owl]

for me now

superb survivors is usually the one that makes thing iffy

[fallow bridge]

That because superb is broken

[hazy owl]

yeah...

[carmine cosmos]

I would not recommend playing with that mod

[fallow bridge]

I don't think anybody does anymore yooks

Especially after the dev of it stopped supporting it

[red dirge]

My new rig has a crap ton of RAM

[violet garden]

how can you do that?

asking for a friend

[hazy owl]

I dont remember, lemme google it

[hazy owl]

I edited ProjectZomboid64.bat with notepad and you change this line to whatever MB you want to use. In my case I gave it 8gb.

[hollow shadow]

where is the bat

[hazy owl]

root folder, sry

[hollow shadow]

found

thx

[hazy owl]

idk if it will work for you, but it did wonders for me

[hollow shadow]

will it stop the lag spikes?

that happen after 30 mins

every 30 sec

[fallow bridge]

It depends

[hazy owl]

idk, for me it stopped frame loss on zoom out and increased fluidity of the game by 100%

[fallow bridge]

Mods and dev's have said they don't advise changing how much ram the game uses

[hazy owl]

smooth framerate during the whole time pretty much, not perfect, bbut good

[hollow shadow]

omg no lag on zoom out

[fallow bridge]

Changing the ram didn't work for me

[hazy owl]

oh yeah i cant guarantee what will happen to your game

[hollow shadow]

tahtsa already yverey agood

[hazy owl]

yeah zoom out got running on 60-70 fps now

[hexed anchor]

download more ram

[hazy owl]

from 90 zoom in, I locked it at 90

[hollow shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-fast-laughing-fast-reddit-gif-20971761

[fallow bridge]

I still sit there and almost fall for this

Because the joke is so overused it almost makes me think your being serious.

[hexed anchor]

people in this discord complaining about overused jokes

now that's rich

billionaire even

[fallow bridge]

Me specifically

Anulyways

Fuck

[carmine cosmos]

You need a lot of RAM (8 GB min) and an SSD instead of an HDD and your game should be lag free (for most parts)

[violet garden]

i found the bat but i suck at add lines, i dont know how to do it
can you send me the ss of your bat
i do have notpad but i suck at using it lol

nvm found

im yeah, dumb af

[carmine cosmos]

I would also recommend running the game with AdoptOpenJDK instead of the JRE bundled with the game

This should resolve problems present in native Java code

[main lion]

updated!

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk Theres different car battery tiers?

Oh, i guess it doesnt vary from heavy duty to sports

[red dirge]

Wait you updated the armor mod?

[main lion]

yep with night vision

[red dirge]

Poggers

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk I was gonna make different looking parts for each tier and class

[agile swallow]

Do the goggles actually effect the players vision cone at night? So you can spot zombies in a wider area. Or is it just cosmetic.

[agile swallow]

😮

[main lion]

You can increase the screen brightness and adjust it

[agile swallow]

You can adjust the goggles?

Is that what that power selection menu was in that other screenshot?

[main lion]

yep

[agile swallow]

Nice

[solemn pebble]

Ey @sour island I got +300 errors like this in a few seconds
And it keeps popping up

[maiden elk]

What, do you need source images? You can grab them off the wiki.

[solemn pebble]

+6000 errors in one minute lol @sour island

[sour island]

Ty, I may have left out a update before leaving the house

[sour island]

@solemn pebble let me know if the error is still around.

[iron moth]

Yooooo finally

[hollow shadow]

what do you think about this. they are heavy, sport and standard mufflers of superior condition

[abstract elbow]

coyote county lookin mad breaking bad

any meth lab reference soon? lmao

[errant meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-rambo-peeking-steve-rambo-steve-rambo-peek-gif-18789495

[errant meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-crazy-son-of-a-bitch-you-did-it-jurrasic-park-gif-19484615

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk

[errant meteor]

Is this for that car part mod?

[hollow shadow]

yes

[errant meteor]

I would also recommend adding some rusted out holes for the old muffler type

And maybe for the new ones, adding a sparkle effect

thats just me doe

[hollow shadow]

some stuff can look realy weird when you work with very few pixels

[swift sequoia]

Anyone who uses an NPC mod like superb survivors want to beta a fix I made to my reloaded mod?

Superb survivors isn't a mod I use, so I can't put it through all its paces.

[ruby jasper]

hi guys am new here

can anyone tell me how to rotate buildings in worldEd

so when I my building in some can face different directions

[maiden elk]

Impressive. Very nice.

[red dirge]

Hold left clic kwhen you have a item that you want to move and move your mouse to rotate it

[ruby jasper]

thank you !

[undone crag]

Is it possible to change an object's Java public boolean with Lua when there is not a public method in the Java for it?

There's this

public final boolean[] bOutline = new boolean[4];```but I only see private methods for changing it.

Ooh actually could I add a Java file to my mod which has the necessary function in it?
I tried finding out about modding Java in PZ with a search engine but didn't find out about it.

[swift sequoia]

Is there a way to access ObjectOutputStream within a PZ mod? I'd like to write an object to file. The object does implement serializable.

[solemn pebble]

@sour island +300 errors again 🙈

[sour island]

Still? Hmm

Steam was giving shark issues updating

Ill give it another look

[solemn pebble]

👍🏻

[undone crag]

Felkami the debug mode attachment point editor writes to a base game file, to the models script file, so maybe whatever that uses could be used to write to a file how you want.

[swift sequoia]

mr_anon I'll check it out. Otherwise I'll need to work with kv file writing and figuring out how to implement stuff like ImmutableColor.

[undone crag]

I think probably not. If you understand Lua well enough you could look through the Lua to see if you can do it with Lua.

[tame mulch]

No. Only read (by hack)

[tame mulch]

Java modding is not popular and not researched

[craggy furnace]

people should learn java just because it has more utility just besides zomboid

[tame mulch]

Yep

[craggy furnace]

but keep in mind, learn java because you wanna do something with it

learning a language for the sake of a language makes no sense

[tame mulch]

Sad that in zomboid is not comfort to create mods in Java and hard to share them later

[craggy furnace]

it restricts the overall scope of zomboid mods to a stunning degree

[tame mulch]

Not so global, but yes. (Not all is possible to implement in Java mods too. Like model import or anims)

[echo leaf]

Awesome, glad you got that in there!

[sour island]

For Java modding to work as a platform you'd need to sit down and expose stuff yourself- it'd be the same amount of work if the base game was exposed - unless I'm missing something?

[harsh sapphire]

So it's basically similar to what this post suggested I assume?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2441122190

[sour island]

Can't speak for Yooks but that does line up with his advice

You also want to stick with 8 as that's what the game is using for the moment - I believe they plan to move onto 15 soon(ish)™

[harsh sapphire]

Thanks, I'll give it a whirl

[carmine cosmos]

If you are interested in Java modding let me know and I will send you the information you need

[carmine cosmos]

Looks alright to me

[carmine cosmos]

It is very easy to create Project Zomboid Java mods and share them these days

[tame mulch]

By steam share will not work correct

[carmine cosmos]

You just need to do your research on how to do it, you are even a part of a community that created the Java toolchain

[tame mulch]

Need share with instructions

[carmine cosmos]

I am working on that, the mods will be automatically downloaded by Storm

[tame mulch]

Cool!

Like modloader?

[carmine cosmos]

So you put a metadata file on Steam with the name and link to the mod (on Github for example) and Storm will download that link to local mods directory

[tame mulch]

What about way to insert jar files of mod to game?

Insert in bat file path?

[carmine cosmos]

The jars are already auto loaded by Storm if they are in the right place (local mods directory)

Storm is fully functional, just nobody uses it for some strange reason 🤷‍♂️

[tame mulch]

Cool! After NPC mod i will try create mods on Java. I have some experience with Java

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk

Only need to do brakes and then i should be done

[hollow shadow]

kill me

and this should be vanilla btw

did i miss anything?

oh i forgot suspensions

[undone crag]

Yes please in all actuality

[dry sparrow]

Oh wow, I'd much rather code in java than lua! So cool to hear that it's possible!

[errant meteor]

very based

[echo leaf]

Omg these are great! I was just thinking about doing something just like this but you've done way better than I ever could have.

Great job so far! I can't wait to use them

Small suggestion; vary the disk and caliper sizes for the different brakes.

Small disc and smaller blue/grey caliper for standard.

Big disc and fat red brembo caliper for sport.

Larger disc and thicc yellow caliper for heavy.

Amazing what you've done with so few pixels already 😇

@hollow shadow ^

Dinky standard

Fat sport

And Heavy vehicles typically use drum brakes but those are hard to visualize on an icon 🤷‍♂️

But here's a thicc rotor/caliper for a truck

Food for thought!

[little stream]

what mod might b brakin my fishing ?

[violet garden]

fishing with the boys?

[carmine cosmos]

Let me know if you are interested in it, I can send you an invitation to a community that is developing the Java modding toolchain

[dry sparrow]

Yes please do!

[versed warren]

Is there javadocs for zombie.vehicles? Nothing like that in https://projectzomboid.com/modding/

[worldly olive]

@dry sparrow hey!! I was just about to ask if you were in this discord, I'm PepperCat, I just tested the compatibility with Superb/Subpar survivors, it seems to work all fine!! I'll keep testing a little more but no errors like before and the traits seems to be working yet 😄

[undone crag]

For Build 41 you can see what's different about the java by looking through the game files with jd-gui.

[versed warren]

Thanks again, @undone crag. I've also noticed that I can explore the lua tables corresponding to the packages and classes in the console and then grab the text from the console.txt file. Cheers.

[undone crag]

ooh

[swift sequoia]

Does Kahlua behave differently than Lua when it comes to the goto statement and labels?

It seems very angry with this:
if (db[steamID] == {}) then goto continue end;
...stuff
::continue::

[undone crag]

Maybe it uses an older version of Lua that does not have goto? It still has atan2.

[swift sequoia]

That's likely, its acting like 'goto' is an assignable variable.

Ugh without it my code becomes arrow code though.

[versed warren]

Hey @undone crag, I just learned that all of the global environment variables in the lua interpreter are stored in a table called _G. Enjoy if you didn't know. 🙂

[undone crag]

ree

[versed warren]

I still can't figure out which class the 'getSpecificPlayer' function belongs to though...

[sour island]

goto does not work with pz

[sour island]

that's a global lua thing from luamanager iirc

[versed warren]

Yes! Class LuaManager.GlobalObject in package zombie.Lua ... Thank you!
And now I get to play with all of GlobalObject's other getters. 😄

[sour island]

Np, have fun

[versed warren]

I wish the Lua introspection package was enabled in the console. :/

[craggy furnace]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2530389024

[idle onyx]

Thanks bro

[errant meteor]

@craggy furnace your new game menu dose not like plant ghouls lab complex alpha main menu, and clipping.

[craggy furnace]

what?

oh

[errant meteor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2375198145&searchtext=lab

[craggy furnace]

i dont care about facilitating those

they arent big enough and they arent important enough

[errant meteor]

burn lol

[craggy furnace]

they just arent

[errant meteor]

I hope the olive drab version looks like this

[sour island]

Can you post a screenshot of what exactly is happening?

Aslong as the menu works I don't think it matters

@errant meteor

[errant meteor]

The menu works, so it’s not a big deal

[sour island]

Alrighty, ty

[versed warren]

I'm looking at the source code for hand weapon condition loss on hit. The code seems to be in zombie.ai.states.SwipeStatePlayer.animEvent() but the logic/math is bizzare:

   int i = handWeapon1.getConditionLowerChance();
   if (paramIsoGameCharacter instanceof IsoPlayer && "charge".equals(((IsoPlayer)paramIsoGameCharacter).getAttackType()))
        i = (int)(i / 1.5D); 
        if (Rand.Next(i + paramIsoGameCharacter.getMaintenanceMod() * 2) == 0) {
          WeaponLowerCondition(handWeapon1, paramIsoGameCharacter);
        } else if (Rand.NextBool(2) && !handWeapon1.isRanged() && !handWeapon1.getName().contains("Bare Hands")) {
          if (handWeapon1.isTwoHandWeapon() && (paramIsoGameCharacter.getPrimaryHandItem() != handWeapon1 || paramIsoGameCharacter.getSecondaryHandItem() != handWeapon1) && Rand.NextBool(3))
          return; 
          paramIsoGameCharacter.getXp().AddXP(PerkFactory.Perks.Maintenance, 1.0F);
        }

What throws me is that random number being equal to zero.

Looking the getMaintenanceMod() function in IsoGameCharacter didn't help me.

I guess it must have something to do with the way Rand.Next(int) works. I looked at the code for that too, but it didn't look like it would return a 0 in a useful way.

[hexed arrow]

Anyone know how to add in custom muzzle flashes for specific guns?

[sour island]

Iirc rand num starts at 0, also you can use
***language (java, Lua, etc)
Code
***
for formatting.

[versed warren]

Thanks Chuck.

[late hound]

The start of something gorey....

[fair pawn]

very cool

[tame mulch]

Party of sausage lovers! I like it

[strange kiln]

will there be crawler varients? pog

[versed warren]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2531016712

My first published mod. 🙂

[strange kiln]

Metal Solid Gear

[drifting ore]

are all the pins are what we need for modding ?

[echo leaf]

@hollow shadowI'm jones'n for those car icons 😄

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk did you implement the icons yet?

[nimble spoke]

ohhhh man I wanted to try that. I'm glad someone will make it happen

[tame mulch]

Helped Azakaela with basements on custom map. I think basement mod on default map soon)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136501320340209664/859410421655273522/2021-06-29_06-29-02.mp4

[carmine cosmos]

Unfortunately no, there is plenty of stuff that is not promoted here

[indigo hound]

Помню как разработчики говорили что однажды будут и подвалы в игре Т_Т Это было охренеть как давно) и их реально не хватает)

[indigo hound]

ГДЕ РУССКИЕ ПЕСНИ?)

[tame mulch]

XD не моя запись)

[indigo hound]

понял)))

[river plinth]

I'm again struggling with require and don't get why it won't work. I've got the following require-statements in my file, yet the log states the require failed require "BuildingObjects/ISWoodenWall"; require "BuildingObjects/ISDoubleTileFurniture"; require "BuildingObjects/ISDoubleDoor"; require "bcUtils"; What am I doing wrong again? (everytime I come back to modding after a couple of weeks I struggle with these basics, sorry)

[glad grotto]

hey how do you add mods downloaded on github to your pz mod list on mac

[leaden raven]

im not a midder i dont even know how to make a mod, but if anyone is itressted i got a good idea a propane fridge as mod.

[autumn ether]

@tame mulch как обычно - гениально!

[hollow shadow]

Can you like, open your project zomboid folder on mac?

[glad grotto]

i think so

[hollow shadow]

C/users/user/zomboid/workshop

can you access this file path?

[glad grotto]

Applications/zomboid/contents and then the shortcut icon an auto generated code and some unreadable script

[hollow shadow]

can you show a screenshot?

[glad grotto]

wait i found something else

[hollow shadow]

can you show a screenshot of your c drive?

c storage

[glad grotto]

idk what that is?

[hollow shadow]

Do you have storage on your mac?

for files?

something like this

[glad grotto]

nope

[hollow shadow]

i never used mac before ;-;

[iron salmon]

@glad grotto for you this would be Project Zomboid.app\Contents\Java\Workshop

[hollow shadow]

yeah

[glad grotto]

oh i found it thanks

[hollow shadow]

put the scrap armor in there

the folder without the -

[glad grotto]

the zip or the uncompressed file?

[hollow shadow]

uncompress it, open it up

then theres 4 items in it

take the folder and put it in "Workshop"

[glad grotto]

done

[hollow shadow]

now it should be in your ingame modlist

[glad grotto]

sick

cheers lads

@iron salmon @hollow shadow its definitely in the folder but its not showing up in the mod list

[iron salmon]

You might also have a workshop folder inside your Users\Username\Zomboid\ folder

[glad grotto]

there doesn't appear to be

which one should i be in?

finder is dumb as shit sorry

[craggy furnace]

nasko, you guys wouldnt happen to have a storage of raccoon sounds would you?

[hollow shadow]

What else is in that workshop folder

[glad grotto]

just the mod template

[hollow shadow]

can you send a screenshot?

[hollow shadow]

you were suppost to put the folder inside that folder into there

[hollow shadow]

<<

[glad grotto]

inside the mod template folder?

[hollow shadow]

the thing you uncompressed

it has a "Scrap Armor" folder in it

put that one in workshop

not the whole thing

[glad grotto]

ooooooh

ok thanks

its still bunk'd

like this ja?

[hollow shadow]

if that doesnt work then i honestly idk what to do

maybe restart pc

[echo leaf]

@hollow shadow Oh were you making those icons for someone else?

Absolute saint

Ahh for Poet's car parts mod, nice, I already use that 😄

[maiden elk]

Had some unexpected work to do, I'll get around it soon.

[thin hornet]

Hi guys im trying to upload my workshop mod but I get this error and I can't find anything about it.
I try with my actual mod but also try with an empty template mod and i get the same error. I accepted steam workshop agreement too.

i can see the mod in my steam but its completely blank

Okay found out that i was using a family steam account needed to use the account that bought the game

[hexed arrow]

guys how can I add in costum animations ? I fumbling around with fragmotion and blender but cant seem to figure it out theres little documentation out there

[tame mulch]

It's no way to import anims from blender to PZ. Only modify .x anims frame by frame

[sour island]

I think Peach was aiming to write up a tutorial/documentation

[turbid coyote]

[hexed arrow]

I kinda got it to work in a very obscure way because I was modding dota recently and used fragmotions .smd export for the mesh and the animation the problem is I cant seem to export it as an .x-file in blender

and the direct x-import master for blender doesnt seem to work...

This is the error Im getting with the latest import master, anyone can take a look at this?

[tame mulch]

yeah, it's problem

[hexed arrow]

😦 we'll I stick to model making for now haha

[hexed arrow]

So Im having a problem, I got a partially invisible mesh on my character, this is actually my first model and I just used Britas Armor pack as a base...

What could it be, any experienced modders? Sorry for the spam lol

[grizzled grove]

the UVs need to use the same layout as the body, the masking system propagates to all the clothing

i'm not sure if there's a way around that, like the scrap armor mod.

[hexed arrow]

Ahhh thanks !

Well at least I got an idea for a rayman mod hahaha

[grizzled grove]

bwaha

[hexed arrow]

Hmm the mesh is still invisible at some parts maybe the model is faulty or I have made some other mistake during the process

Well lets try again tomorrow at least I got a backpack working

[abstract raptor]

Anyone know how to, with lua, check to see if a player has touched a specific tile?

or tile from a tilesheet

[echo leaf]

Can't wait!

[sour island]

Anyone have a clue why there's a created IsoPlayer at 0.5,0.5?

• EHE: IsoPlayers adding:None None
  age 25
  desc zombie.characters.SurvivorDesc@546eadd2
  X, Y, Z 0.5,0.5,0

None None is it's fullname

[tame mulch]

Looks like not init survdesc

0.5 0.5 because centre of square

[fringe oxide]

Is it possible to make throwing knives from a modding perspective?

[tame mulch]

Problem with new anim for attack

[sour island]

There is a description object - I should look in there

I need something that I can identify to ignore that object

@tame mulch also I don't know if you ran into this already but some zombies are isoPlayers - I haven't looked into why this is the case though.

Atleast they were triggering onCreatePlayer

Thought it may help with your NPC endeavours

[tame mulch]

I cant find this event. Also i think they cant be IsoPlayer. Only IsoGameCharacter because it's base class for IsoZombie

[sour island]

I don't think they remain that way- for some reason the game is spawning IsoPlayers and imidiately killing them

Converting them into corpses

They are already dead on creation

[tame mulch]

I think it's for Stories. Like dead bodies of Kate bob

[sour island]

Yes, thought you might want to know- incase you wanted a list of isoPlayers like I use

This would throw that list off

[turbid gale]

I'm having an issue where my mod just wasn't want to update...

[sour island]

A mod you wrote?

[turbid gale]

isn't updated

[sour island]

Are you sure the ID is correct?

[turbid gale]

I've been trying to figure this out for about a month 🙃

[sour island]

Does the ID match the linkname

[turbid gale]

yes it does

[sour island]

Not just the description?

[turbid gale]

everything

steam workshop ID, mod id

[sour island]

Could be failing in a way IS didn't predict

So there's no error message

[turbid gale]

I think i figured it out and I'm gonna be really angry at myself

[sour island]

What was it for those that might run into the same issue?

[turbid gale]

in users, there's the whole mods folder and the workshop folder

[errant meteor]

I had this same problem, with a mod commission a rimworld, we just ended up making a new mod page

[turbid gale]

I didn't move the mod I was working on to overwrite the one in the workshop folder

so updating it Steam went "mm yes these files are all the same"

[errant meteor]

lol

[sour island]

Ah

[turbid gale]

brain = small

[sour island]

The ole "three folders for mods" dilema

[turbid gale]

tiny even

I hate it so much

.>

PZ

has such oofin' mod workflow

3 mod folders

Rimworld? 1.
Unturned? Well depends but its somewhere that makes sense.
Spintires/Mudrunner? 1

[sour island]

I think there's a point to it

But yeah the mod list doesn't help in that it loads all three and overwrites itself

I personally don't sub my own mods to avoid headaches

And I don't touch the local mods folder

So I'm only in the upload folder

It throws in gitjunk but it's w.e.

[turbid gale]

now I wait for the gun ROF fix so I can upload my M60 MMG

I made it a bit evil too. Players have to find links to combine with the .308 to actually load it into the belts

[undone crag]

I keep getting stack overflows, is there a way for me to debug it?

ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.StackOverflowError at GameWindow$StringUTF.encode line:1473. Message: Unhandled java.lang.StackOverflowError thrown by thread MainThread..
DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
GameThread exited..```

[swift sequoia]

Morning all. Any idea why this is showing #db == 0?

function output()
    local player = getPlayer();
    local steamID = getCurrentUserSteamID();
    local dName = player:getDisplayName();

    print("steamid: "..steamID);
    print("dName: "..dName);
    
    db[steamID] = db[steamID] or {};
    db[steamID][dName] = db[steamID][dName] or {};
    
    db[steamID][dName]["weight"] = player:getNutrition():getWeight();
    db[steamID][dName]["cows"] = "moo";
    
    print("weight: "..db[steamID][dName]["weight"]);
    print("cows: "..db[steamID][dName]["cows"]);
    
    print("#db: "..#db);
end```

[worldly olive]

Interesting, maybe I should do this, I'm suscribed to my mod, I have it in the workshop folder and also in the mods folder 😂 Anyway these last days I've been changing the mod name and adding Development at the end and I put it in the mods folder so when I have to test I activate that one that's different from all others, that may be useful for others to avoid confusions

[sour island]

The biggest issue is the in game mod list doesn't try to differentiate between the folders and allow people to load copies from each folder if they chose to.

It does state the path location though- but once you activate a mod all the others will be considered activated even though it overwrites it.

[sour island]

I think the load order is local < steamupload < steamdownload

Where the download takes priority

[worldly olive]

I think the same, got tons of headache by that because I didn't understand why the new changes were applied... and it was because the steam version was activated 🤦‍♀️
I solved by simply changing the name of the mod and when I want to upload it to steam I get it back to normal haha

[hollow shadow]

Shouldnt it be a bit smaller?

[craggy furnace]

no

[undone crag]

This stinks, I had almost finished a fancy mod thing but now it's crashing and it's giving an error message that's not about Lua and I might have to just leave it as a fancy mod that crashes after about a minute or less :c

ERROR: General     , 1625069976239> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.StackOverflowError at GameWindow.WriteString line:1253. Message: Unhandled java.lang.StackOverflowError thrown by thread MainThread..
ERROR: General     , 1625069976240> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976393> GameThread exited..```

Felkami when you get the # of a Lua table it stops counting at the first nil. Maybe because db[1] is not assigned it stops counting at that.

You can get its contents with

for i,v in pairs(db) do

end```though

https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide/blob/master/api/README.md

[sour island]

It's not about Lua but it's related to it

Are there any other clues as to what it is in the log?

[sour island]

@swift sequoia also non numeric keys can't be numerated- # is numeration

The the same as saying listname[1] listname[2] etc

[1] will not get you the "first" entry of table it will return nil

[swift sequoia]

Ah gotcha. So I need to make kcount function. Thanks.

[sour island]

If you need to iterate it yes

Pairs() doesn't gather them in any meaningful order

So as long as that is ok you can pairs them

Are you trying to count players online?

[swift sequoia]

No, I'm building a database. The function I'm working on right now writes it all to a save file.

[sour island]

Ah nice

You can also create a sister list

[swift sequoia]

Right now I'm working on the checks to make sure there's data to write. Technically I could probably get away with just going yolo and not checking for data before writing data.

Chances are, if there is no data, the way I've written it, it'll nil out.

[sour island]

Ah so you don't need to maintain an order- carry on then

Something else that I learned the hard way is values that are nils at the end of a list will be cleared including their keys

[swift sequoia]

Right, there's no order. Basically my structure is a database called db, then steam id's, then character display names as a kv table storing all the data.

[sour island]

If you need something to return as false, use false

[swift sequoia]

Unfortunately I couldn't find a way to expose ObjectOutputString, the code only exposes a buffered reader for writing text.

[sour island]

Or rather if you need something initilized as nil, use false

What is objectoutputstring supposed to do?

[swift sequoia]

I may have gotten that wrong. I'm running on zero sleep right now. The file output for saving serialized objects in java.

[sour island]

Ah I use modData for that

[swift sequoia]

It only exposes a buffered reader for text data using getModFileWriter

[sour island]

I couldn't be bothered to dig around for that

Ah it's the same as modData then

Also I just recalled the the config I stripped from sandbox+ uses getmodfilewriter

To be fair though you shouldn't (or need) to store entire objects?

[swift sequoia]

Eeeeh. If I could just write the whole player object, my life would be way easier.

[sour island]

The issue is the game doesn't even do that

[swift sequoia]

Yes it does. Player implements serializable.

[sour island]

It stores all variables as is?

[swift sequoia]

If you open the player file in the save file its a serialized object.

[sour island]

Hm

[swift sequoia]

isoObject (if I remember the naming convention right) implements serializable, so everything that inherits from that can be saved to file as an object.

[sour island]

I assumed they'd only store what they need

My bad

Would explain the save file bloat

[swift sequoia]

It's all good. Reverse engineering someone else's code is a royal pain in the ass.

[craggy furnace]

you should really never do that

as a point of principle doing that + grabbing code from other sources isnt great

usually going ground up and referencing is the way to go

[violet garden]

why you're punishing yourself?

[swift sequoia]

I need to afk. Dog is under observation and decided to be in a different room.

[sour island]

True, for heli events I kept fighting trying to find useful functions that would save me time

But most functions are written for a very express purpose and didn't even get what I needed- so I just wrote everything

[craggy furnace]

yep

its just so much better because if you just blueprint from others it becomes like pulling teeth the more you scale and use

[sour island]

The end result is a mod that can basically work with anything as nothing is getting overwritten by other mods

Also very few mystery bugs to deal with outside of me misplacing a } or two

[craggy furnace]

it was probably a blessing in disguise that we werent able to use the java code for helis either

we arent riding at the seat of our pants when it gets updated

[sour island]

@swift sequoia there is a Lua event OnSave that is called when the game is saved- if that includes the auto saving you could attach your DB there?

Also, in IsoGameCharacter.java you can see all the save()s they cycle through and what is actually getting saved.

[undone crag]

What do you mean by clues? The console before that point has some Lua ''print'' things from trying to debug, and before that things like STATE: enter zombie.gameStates.IngameState. and LOG : General , 1625069962417> Init ISContextManager..

[sour island]

Could you post the log here with like ten or so lines before and after the error?

What is your mod idea?

[undone crag]

Oh I was reading the things above and my reply is late.

Above that the console just has things like

LOG  : General     , 1625069976048> yes.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976049> square thing.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976049> square thing done?.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976049> division.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976050> yes.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976050> square thing.
LOG  : General     , 1625069976050> square thing done?.```

[sour island]

Are those your debug messages?

[undone crag]

yes

I had an idea, there's some strange glitched behaviour that I had not finished fixing, maybe that's what's causing it. Sometimes when I put a custom item in a square it isn't actually visible and it can't be picked up, but I can put a rubber duck and a spoon there, I'll look into that actually.

[sour island]

Are these exclusively squares within the players vision?

[undone crag]

Restarting browser, too slow

Sometimes they are squares not in view on the monitor and sometimes they crash, and sometimes they are squares near the middle of the screen and they sometimes crash.

I will try later though <_>

[sour island]

Squares are sometimes not loaded in if they don't have to be

If you're using getSquare(x,y,z) try getCell():getOrCreateSquare(x,y,z) - I'm not sure if that's the right spelling of it

[undone crag]

Ah maybe my checks for the squares not being nil aren't everywhere. The function runs to its end without any Lua ''stack trace'' error message though so that's not it.

Oh get or create, I'll try that possibly.

[sour island]

Ah you have checks for that?

That's good

That was going to be my next tip

[undone crag]

Aha there's one where it's not checked to be not nil :|

It gives an error message when I try putting an item in a nil square though :\ maybe it's the mysterious invisible glitch.

[sour island]

Youd have to create the square

Can't put something in nothing

[echo leaf]

Is it possible to reset vehicle spawns on an existing save?

[undone crag]

What I mean by that is that if a square was nil, then it would give an error message, and I am not getting error messages about any square being nil, so I think the squares are not nil.

[sour island]

Ooh

Do you have the code anywhere? Github perhaps?

[hexed arrow]

is there an updated version of ItemZed out there?

[undone crag]

ree I will be anon!

Maybe it's something like a problem with some input numbers that I can find when I look at it again.

[echo leaf]

@main lion Are these attachments from your weapon pack?

[main lion]

yep

[echo leaf]

Okay, I'm asking because the tooltips seem off/missing?

vs

The newer (I assume) one's just say "Tooltip_ITEM" rather than the actual tooltip, intended atm?

Or did I do something wrong?

[main lion]

The recently added optics are not marked with performance tables, so I will talk to Arsenal [26]

[echo leaf]

Gotcha, thanks for the info!

Do they currently apply beneficial effects like the old ones and are just missing the tooltips? Or should I hold off on using them atm.

[proud fern]

POV: You skipped work at Spiffo's but it's the saw universe

[craggy furnace]

that was my exact thought

[sour island]

"wanna know what's in the spiffo burger?"

[carmine cosmos]

Yes

[proud fern]

In spiffo voice "Let's play a game!"

Proceeds with the reverse bear trap

[stable linden]

Hey guys, I am working on basically my first mod and have a question about events. Firstly, is there a place where they're documented? The wiki seems a bit dated on it.

If there's not a place where it's documented, does anyone know about an event for when the player is attacked? There SEEMS to be an event, OnBeingHitByZombie, but it doesn't seem to fire?

[sour island]

Are you familiar with opening up the java code and browsing it?

[carmine cosmos]

OnBeingHitByZombie event is not used anywhere in code at this point

[sour island]

zombie/Lua/LuaEventManager.java

You'd have to browse the code to see what is actually used

[carmine cosmos]

Here is a list of all Lua events including the documentation:
https://github.com/pzstorm/storm/tree/master/api/src/main/java/io/pzstorm/storm/event/lua

[stable linden]

Yeah, that's why I was pretty sure that it wasn't called. Also checked to see if it was referenced in lua, which it isn't. And yeah, it's in the AddEvent bit, but is never called with triggerEvent.

[sour island]

someone them are no longer used- so it may have been used in the past

What was your intention for it?

Looks like it depreciated after animations were added

"OnZombieUpdate" could prove more useful

but it's going to be firing for alot more than just attacking

[echo leaf]

thanks

[stable linden]

Checking if the player has contracted the zombie infection. OnPlayerUpdate is where I'm currently doing it, but I'd rather not check every single update 😦 Seems it may be required?

[sour island]

Ah

if there's not a specific event you may have to

if you keep the code behind an if statement it should avoid any serious overhead/lag

[hexed arrow]

guys how can I upload a mod? dumb question but it says only the folders buildings/creative/mods/ are allowed

I structured it the way its supposed to be I think

ok I found a tutorial

[hexed arrow]

so I added in a helmet and everything works... except for it doesnt show up on the ground when I drop it, no sprite no mesh, any ideas?

[carmine cosmos]

If you want to make your mod in Java I can give you an OnPlayerInfected event

[grim kite]

Hello here, does anybody knows where to find a guns shelf at Building Editor?

[pseudo lake]

Is that this one?

[craggy furnace]

@magic summit was it you or charli who did the translations for spanish?

by the way, apparently some of your spiffos are broken on eerie

[magic summit]

Yes, I am working on this.

[craggy furnace]

alright, ill let cheese know

[ivory bridge]

Makes me think of fallout powerarmor looks cool

[craggy furnace]

because it is from fallout

[ivory bridge]

I didn’t even notice

[high ledge]

hi everybody. my English is bad. help me solve the problem? previously, modifications that add clothing required manual replacement FileGuidTable.xml. Now you don't need to do this, all mods have their own FileGuidTable.xml and it is recognized by the game itself. But here's the problem when I do the same with my mod and remove it from FileGuidTable.xml is all the GUIDs of the original game - half of the things become invisible, as if the game does not know their GUID. Why does this work for other modders, but I don't?

[late hound]

If you want your clothing to spawn clothing on zombies, you put the vanilla assets in the mod GUID and visa versa.

[high ledge]

Mods PLL and SwatPack have FileGuidTable.xml and there are no vanilla GUIDs in it

[plucky nova]

im using the enhanced heli events mod and i heard a chopper crash, how can i find it?

[drifting ore]

Well, search the area, and where did the sound came from

[plucky nova]

i couldnt tell, how far away could it be?

[sour island]

At the moment the engine gets angry if I try to place a vehicle too far so it should be about 200 tiles away or less

[plucky nova]

oh, hmm

im in eerie county, should that effect anything?

[sour island]

Nope

I don't think the sound should not play if there is no vehicle placed

I should double check that

[plucky nova]

anywhere i should look?

[sour island]

It's all random

[plucky nova]

like any specific areas?

oh

so for all i know it could have spawned in a fuckin building?

[sour island]

No, the engine doesn't like spawning vehicles inside of buidlinggs

[hexed arrow]

yeah I want to add in the whole power armor lol

[sour island]

And I put checks to avoid that

I really wanted roof landings

But the game REALLY doesn't like cars not on the ground

[plucky nova]

ok, cool

im trying to find it

[sour island]

Just double checked it should only play the sound of a vehicle was created

The issue is the 3D sound is not very distinct so it's probably not possible to tell what direction it was I imagine?

Could you tell what kind of heli it was?

Dropping items/ making any sounds?

[ivory bridge]

Fuckin A That would be cool

[hexed arrow]

Fallout 76 items look really cool in zomboid haha

[ivory bridge]

Are you planning to put it up on steam ?

[sour island]

A Zomboid 100 years later mod would be cool

[undone crag]

Maybe UI elements to show sound direction?

[sour island]

Working on something like that for helis

[ivory bridge]

Two things I think would be fun

Stalker clothes and fallout clothes

[sour island]

I'm thinking a small symbol for crash locations but I hate the immersion break

[plucky nova]

ok, i found the crash, and nearly died lol

thanks for the help!

[undone crag]

It's possible to have models visible which could represent the thrown knives by having them as items, and the items can be hidden from inventories by giving them no display name. It could be coded in Lua. Maybe it could be coded in Java with Storm, and there could be java objects specifically for the knives, like the iso falling clothing object.

[sterile shale]

are there any tutorials that explain how to add items and clothing since i dont understand this https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide

[high ledge]

one more question. in the map creation tool, I make a lamp that glows red. everything is fine, I create a game, I reach the lamp and it lights up red. but it is worth leaving the game and going back again, it starts to shine with a white light.

[sour island]

Nice, and np, let me know how the mod feels.

[dry sparrow]

Wasn't there a note in the upcoming patch about a bug with colored lights doing that?

[plucky nova]

i REALLY like it! i think it really adds to the feel of the game, genuinely!

[dry sparrow]

@sour island is there an event I could hook into for crashes where I could potentially spawn in crash survivors with SS?

[high ledge]

Sorry. It was really fixed. I just haven't checked my map for a long time.

[dry sparrow]

Not fixed yet, but I think in the next patch.

[sour island]

That's not a bad idea

Are you familiar with modding?

[dry sparrow]

Familiar enough.

I'm still a little iffy on what from one mod would be in scope for another.

Like I know how to add my functions to the base game events, but not clear on how/if I can do the same with something in another mod.

[sour island]

It can you just have to be careful with file load order

[high ledge]

Its fix now. I check

[hexed arrow]

yes I do but Im still figuring out the the basics of modding I just started with the hobby a week ago

[sour island]

You can also use 'require' but honestly I don't think it loads the files first or anything

[ivory bridge]

Nice dude keep at it

[hexed arrow]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/37647-the-one-stop-shop-for-3d-modeling-from-blender-to-zomboid/&tab=comments#comment-314775

[sour island]

You could make a subfolder of where the file is and have it load that way

[hexed arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6tZujOPnDw&t

these two links helped me a lot

[sour island]

I'll add an event to hook into though

To make things a bit easier

I'd like to see people use expanded heli as a framework and do fun stuff

[dry sparrow]

Yeah would be cool if I could just add "Events.onHeliCrash.Add(SpawnSurvivors)"

[hexed arrow]

[sterile shale]

thanks

[sour island]

It would be something similiar to that

[dry sparrow]

Neat, I'll keep an eye out for it in updates.

[teal coral]

we can talk about here about issues whit mods?

[errant meteor]

If you want support try the mod page first then ask here

[teal coral]

mmm okay then

because I have a simple issue whit the mod of swat pack

about the weapons holding only

[hollow oyster]

Can someone make braid hairstyle mode…?

[sterile shale]

whats ImpactSound

[sour island]

for weapon scripts? it's the sound the weapon makes when it hits something

[tame mulch]

Found that items have modData table and have parsing for custom params (number, string). So it possible add any param to item script and use it later. But need write some code for make possible to access this data. I plan to do it in Storm project.

[strange kiln]

based

[tame mulch]

Also if you have ideas, api requests for extend Lua modding - write here. Maybe i will can create it by Java/Lua

[sour island]

Trying to make a pseudo event doesn't work as I thought it might - but you could always overwrite/overload the mod's functions

[sour island]

Sound overhaul?

[low yarrow]

Juicy!

[analog sandal]

yeah the already existing one

[fringe oxide]

Guys, I want to increase the shooting skill for the veteran, where can I find the profession config?

[craggy furnace]

has anyone else had an issue where zombies turn invisible on death when making a clothing mod?

[hexed arrow]

So my head model doesnt show up on the ground as the icon, its still invisible

this is the corresponding xml file

ok so when I remove the line
<m_AttachBone>Bip01_Head</m_AttachBone> it does show up on the ground but then it doesnt any more on my character lol

also Im wondering why it cant show up as a model but as an icon maybe Its the models orientation in blender

[eternal bridge]

Who's hyped for mods being able to contain custom anims without needing manual installation?

[hexed arrow]

So I got it to show up on the ground as well, it was the models fault my next question would be what defines the size and rotation on the ground

[ivory bridge]

Looks like the pirates headpiece from metro exodus

[hexed arrow]

So the thing was actually the fbx export, when I exported it as an Xfile it works properly on the ground

[hexed arrow]

haha the base model is from wow I just changed it up a bit because wow models are so low poly they easily blend into zomboid

[ivory bridge]

Nice

[ivory bridge]

Definitely gave me this vibe

[hexed arrow]

I got all the models I want to make a bone armor that reduces stress and pain when wearing it 😄

[ivory bridge]

Wonderful lol

[snow mica]

Hi friends! - I'm a 3D Artist that has over the past few months poured about 400 hours into Zomboid. I would love to start making some weapons or armor for the game, I found the guides in the pinned messages. There are already many, many awesome mods with great weapons and armor and things in them, so I don't want to retread old territory. Has the community been clamoring for anything specific? like "We want more swords!" or anything along those lines?

[fallow bridge]

Not that I've seen

More clothing does sound nice though

[snow mica]

Hmm, in the modding guide the vanilla player models w/ rigs don't seem to be available for download. Does anyone happen to know where those exist now?

[fallow bridge]

@wet dune you still have them?

[hexed arrow]

you mean from the clothing guide

I dont know but these might be helpful

[snow mica]

@hexed arrow This is exactly what I was looking for, Thank you!

[hexed arrow]

you're welcome

[wet dune]

?

[fallow bridge]

Nevermind

[late hound]

Those player models are still able for download from the 3D modeling guide.

[lethal tundra]

I would like to create content for the game, someone info me some tools? 😄

[late hound]

Check pinned tabs

[lethal tundra]

thx

[obtuse osprey]

can anyone help ive tried everything to get mods to work but they will not install

[sour island]

You're trying to install mods? Outside of steam?

What folder are you putting them in?

Do they show up on the mod menu in game?

[errant meteor]

@craggy furnace if I am not wrong you wanted to mod this in right? Well someone made the hat real

[sour island]

that's an abomination

[craggy furnace]

@sour island https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwhG85maXSk

[violet garden]

if this isnt art

[carmine cosmos]

Would you be willing to collaborate on mod ideas?

[carmine cosmos]

He is not going to find all information in pinned tabs

[carmine cosmos]

What kind of content do you want to create?

[agile swallow]

I would genuinely buy this hat. But only if it was just the text on the top and a normal brim.

[errant meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-dangeon-master-egor-novikov-slaves-pog-gif-20167718

[snow mica]

@carmine cosmos In what way would you like to collaborate? 😄

[drifting ore]

how to be stylish in the zombie apocalypse

[thin hornet]

Anyone by chance can tell me if making custom safehouse area may be working.
If so, what's the size limit and what area are restricted. I've been playing around and when i set a custom area most of the time it doesn't even show it as a safehouse I have to delete it and try a different location/area.

[errant meteor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2534155979 dayz standalone has gone a long way

[versed warren]

Can someone help me move the camera one square without moving the player and then move the camera back? I've tried making an IsoDummyCameraCharacter, adding it to the current cell, and setting it as the IsoCamera camchar. Nothing happens, maybe I need to update something? I've been pouring through the code but I can't figure out if there's a way to do this.

I want to make it possible to "peek" around corners if a mirror is equipped.

[carmine cosmos]

Are you modding with Lua or Java?

[eternal stirrup]

does anyone know what is the loot table for the Lucky trait?

[versed warren]

Lua, with reference to the Java code. I saw that PlayerCamera is not exposed in Lua, but I don't know if it's what I need.

[carmine cosmos]

You can write the mod in Java, then you don't have this problem

Feel free to join us in voice chat now and I can tell you more

[flint seal]

got any upcoming parkour moves in a future build?

[undone crag]

Parkour I would like that, if you could go on the roofs to be safer, and also go into attics.

[valid cargo]

please help, i require help for my citizens in my base, i give them and axe and ask them to chop wood but they say they can't find the axe which they are holding (superb survivors)

[sour island]

Did you set a "woodcutting" zone?

[valid cargo]

indeed

wait chop trees right?

[sour island]

Are you using the "Subpar Survivors" patch?

The base Superb survivors is not really supported by the author.

Also they may only want to chop trees with a woodcutting ax

Idk how he wrote it

[fallow bridge]

Not that I know of

[waxen sorrel]

hey guys, do you know where in game files can i find the original game logo from main menu?

[sour island]

its in a .pack iirc

[hexed anchor]

pro zoid

[waxen sorrel]

thx i found it

was in UI2.pack

[fallow bridge]

OH FUCK THE ISS

[loud pier]

can anyone tell me where the script for Log Walls are?

[proud condor]

Does anyone know how i can use a mod to make changes to an already in game item, i want to customise some things to be different but i keep getting the default item.

is there a line that tells the game to use my mod item instead or some other thing

[undone crag]

You can use this to edit the details of item types:

ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Fork"):DoParam("DisplayName = Spork");```

Also the details of the item are saved in the save file so you could get a whole new instance of an item for it to have the new stats.

[proud condor]

i think that makes sense
so for me i would put

ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Mustard"):DoParam("ReplaceOnUse = farming.MayonnaiseEmpty,");

would that be about right?

[undone crag]

In a Lua file in client, maybe shared works, I don't know which one makes sense for multiplayer.

[proud condor]

i am off to see if i can work that in.

i am not quite getting this i made a lua file and put the line but now the item just throws an error and is also still not edited.

i spawn in a new mustard with necro forge but the mustard still has 20 hunger change instead of the 25 i set.

[turbid coyote]

Anyone know where the file for all the randomly generated names your character can have would be?

[proud condor]

is there anyway you could help me to figure out what is going wrong with my Mustard problem, i am trying to get it to work but that command is not doing what it seems to be trying to do, its not editing any param on the item.

i made an item called HomeMadeMustard and made 2 recipes to convert the mustard to and from my custom recipe, the edited mustard does not have any edits and now when i eat it it just has 0 hunger left and stays as mustard and the custom item works just fine, but i dont want to have to convert it to a custom item for it to work and i really dont want to make custom items and recipes for every default item change

and google is 0 help

[proud condor]

sigh, well i guess editing existing items with a mod is impossible, i tried everything.

[carmine cosmos]

What exactly do you want to do?

Editing existing items is definitely not possible

[carmine cosmos]

You are not going to get far by googling modding questions for PZ

[tame mulch]

Check ItemTweaker mod in steam. Use it for change items

[proud condor]

oh yea its working, i figured out how to modify an existing base game item.

using a mod

i figured out
if i add an item like this it does not work to change the original item
module name
{
imports
{
Base
}
item x
{
stats
}
}
but if i add an identical item to the original with the stats i want on it like this then the Base item in the game is replaces with my modded one.
module Base
{
item x
{
stats
}
}

it can cause problems if you have more than 1 mod doing the same thing to change a base game item

basically the whole reason i did any of this is i wanted to be able to grow mustard seeds and then make mustard that can be put in a bottle and turn into the actual mustard item but i needed the base mustard to give a bottle for me to use.

[solemn pebble]

Ey @sour island @craggy furnace
Would it be possible to add an option in your mod to adjust the type of event we want to be more frequent than another?
In my games the most common events are crashing helicopters and supply drop, and I would like it to be something really rare that happens.
During a month of survival I had 3 helicopter crashes and 2 supply drops. And that's with events set to "rare."
It would be great to be able to adjust the frequency of each event so that these two in particular are extremely rare to occur.
On the other hand, as I said some time ago, it would also be great to be able to disassemble the crashed helicopters and supply drops.

[craggy furnace]

we just patched this

about an hour ago we pushed an update but chuck wants to do some more

[sour island]

The frequency should be a bit different now- I also added two new menu options as setting cutoff day really high was causing some issues

you can now leave cutoff to 30, and set 'never end' to true

also you can choose a flat offset for start day

[turbid coyote]

Anyone know where the randomly generated names for your character would be located in the files?

[solemn pebble]

Yes, I have seen these options
So now it's enough to simply set that the events do not end?
I had it set to 2 years lol

[sour island]

Yes, never end will prevent cutoff

[solemn pebble]

Oh great!
Another thing I noticed, but I don't know if it's a feeling or real.
Events don't attract many zombies, do they?
I mean, the vanilla helicopter is the scariest event for players because of the amount of zombies it attracts, but with your mod I don't notice that same feeling of attraction, and I play with 1000 tiles of sound distance.

[craggy furnace]

Soon

[tame mulch]

Where I can order so cool cover for my NPC mod?

[hexed anchor]

google gay porn meme and then just draw and/or photoshop it to look like pz

kind of like stimpee

if you draw use ms paint as it gives the piece more soul

[sour island]

Sir, that's a man and woman

I'm sorry her muscles out mass yours

[hexed anchor]

doesn't matter

[sour island]

This mod is about traditional family values, that's why it's a daddy, mommy, and child

Also, coifed Spiffo kinda cute

updated version

[hexed anchor]

ft. angrygamenerd

[sour island]

wrong guy actually

[hexed anchor]

man 🐴

[sour island]

ir's Irwin R. Schyster

[abstract raptor]

doo doo doo

I was looking to try adding a sort of weather event for my map; dust storms.

I can kinda mock it up in debug mode -- this is what I want it to look like, basically color the fog brown and have it come with lots of wind

[carmine cosmos]

Looks great, but it's definitely an FPS killer

[unreal pawn]

That looks great! Good choice of sound effects too

[waxen sorrel]

Hi! You can check out my first mod

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2536827493

[tame mulch]

NPC, sims, pz, domination, base, Java

[craggy furnace]

are you sure you just dont want a dungeon instead?

[errant meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/van-darkholme-kirishima-touka-gif-21249746

[undone crag]

Maybe the error message has a clue for what the problem was.

[cyan drum]

does anyone know what is causing this error? usually errors have some text in them that points to what mod it's from, but this one isn't clear (the term "Kahlua" doesn't come up on a search in my mods) Line 7773: [04-07-21 12:37:56.871] ERROR: General , 1625420276871> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: removeFromUIManager of non-table: null at KahluaThread.tableget line:1689.. Line 7774: [04-07-21 12:37:56.871] ERROR: General , 1625420276871> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.

I'll get my most list in a moment; it's not accurate to what I have subscribed on Steam because some of them are disabled; I just need to find a place to sleep so I can save.

[cyan drum]

I'm also currently in Raven Creek

[undone crag]

Kahlua is what PZ is using to use Lua and Java together I've read.

[thin hornet]

Anyone can explain this error

[lost sundial]

seems legit

[carmine cosmos]

Are you using any mods?

[thin hornet]

Yeah im making a mod and i get this error and this error show in the dev console but doesnt trigger a breakpoint.

its happen when i try '''local batteryList = playerInv:getAllTypeEvalRecurse("CarBattery1", predicateNotFull)'''
but only after when i check that variable '''if not batteryList:isEmpty() then'''

[carmine cosmos]

Lua breakpoints?

[thin hornet]

no matter the mod is working but that error keep popin and the rest of code still works as intended

so its just weird

yeah

[carmine cosmos]

Didn't even know you can use Lua breakpoints, that's interesting...

As always I recommend debugging this using an IDE debugger to track down the exception

[worldly olive]

hey @sour island @craggy furnace did you added the possibility for Helicopters to crash inside buildings? it is currently clipping that house

[craggy furnace]

yeah

[thin hornet]

@carmine cosmos if u use -Ddebug you get pretty nice tools using F11 maybe not as good as a IDE tho

[errant meteor]

Question for a modder, is it possible to add waving flags?

[craggy furnace]

@errant meteor yes

[errant meteor]

bruh

You should put a rage soyjack face, and spiffo having a mask

the agent spiffo

It would make a deeper message, showing that a modder has put in NPCs before the devs did, and having a deep rage or something like that, hell you can put the indie stone logo as a pin in the jacket

I'm over thinking this

[tame mulch]

Hot!

[strange kiln]

sus

[thin hornet]

Any trick to calculate drainable items when u want to pack them ?

let se pack 2 water bottles but i want them to be full. In the recipe i cant just say WaterBottle=2
does it have to be lets say 2 * 10 water unit so to pack 2 water bottle it would be 20 kind of confusing to me

so weird 6 water bottle (whiskey) wich have 12.5 unit of water each total 72.5 but that barely make sens

[hollow shadow]

Lmao

[hollow shadow]

lmao yes

@sour island If i find it funny yes i will add it 😄

[sour island]

oke, just give me like a few words

@hollow shadow I have collected a few images - I'll probably start a stream in like 10 minutes

[gloomy goblet]

any idea where a radio turning off on unequip happens in the code?

[carmine cosmos]

The in-game debugging tools cannot be compared to proper debugging with IDE

[carmine cosmos]

It is easy to implement NPC's in the game, but making them actually work as intended is a whole other story

Since TIS was unable to successfully implement NPC's yet it is unlikely any single community modder would be able to do so

At least not the level that we all expect them to be:

• Being able to recruit and give them commands.
• Smart enough not to instantly die to zombies.
• Switch weapons depending on the combat situation.
• Be able to fight multiple zombies at once.
• Know when to run away when things get tough.
• Advanced pathfinding so they can out-maneuver zombies.
• Know how to manage their inventory properly.
• Loot houses and store loot in proper places.
  ...

[tame mulch]

?

[carmine cosmos]

Read the following messages underneath that

[tame mulch]

But some of this already done by Lua. Other things able to do by Java+Storm

[carmine cosmos]

At least this is what I think the community expects but I could be wrong 🤔

[carmine cosmos]

If you believe you can implement all of these things properly then great 👍

[tame mulch]

Not all, but possible 🙂

[carmine cosmos]

I would not be able to implement even half of that

Not without a team of people working with me full time

[carmine cosmos]

You know that I will give you all the support that I can

But I still think a single modder cannot implement proper NPC's to how community expects them to be

So there is no need to act surprised when I verbalize that 😛

[tame mulch]

I Agree with that expectation of NPC mod is too big

[carmine cosmos]

It would be great if you set the expectations much lower by explaining the limitations of the NPC mod

[tame mulch]

Yeah, i plan to do roadmap + YES/NO/MAYBE list

[carmine cosmos]

Sounds good 👍

[sour island]

@hollow shadow

Wasn't there a hello sticker art for PZ?

@hollow shadow

[reef hatch]

@craggy furnace @sour island so we've got the building design down to put in Blackwood just gotta add the custom assets to the heli school. We're thinking of adding the emergency leaflets that the heli drops, if either of you could DM the original for the best quality that'd awesome and if you've got any other posters or images that you like or represent you send them my way and we'll chuck them in, the more the merrier but i can't promise we'll get them all in 👍

[craggy furnace]

sure, ill throw it your way

[reef hatch]

cheers once its all done and in the mod ill let you know so you and chuck can check it out

[sour island]

Awesome

. _ .

I'll just DM you my avatar

[errant meteor]

You missed a great opportunity to add billy Harrington fixing a car, I have the big sad now

[sour island]

Discord thinks my avatar is explicit

https://imgur.com/kLHTjrP

[reef hatch]

it is kinda sexy tho 😂

[sour island]

I think it's the gun

[reef hatch]

Awesome ill pass it on to Dylan 👍

[sour island]

ty

[reef hatch]

Thank you and Shark for EHE that has literally changed how i experience the game.

[sour island]

Aw, thanks man! That was our goal

[errant meteor]

Omg all this time I thought it was a gas nozzle, and you were snorting gas

[sour island]

haha, nope - it's a Bornheim from Hunt Showdown

[late hound]

Authentic Z has now been updated!

• July 4th Update -

New Zombie Batch

• Uncle Sam
• Abe Lincoln
• Original Ghostbusters with Proton Packs
• New Sports Fan with Cheese hat
• Bob Ross now carries a paintbrush
• Politician now carries stacks of money

--Hitlist 2 has been updated--

Fixes

• Fixed the Maid Dress not tailoring correctly
• Adjusted file locations of textures

Additional Features coming soon:

• New Flare Gun in the works
• New "Crapaccino"/ Barrista zombies at the coffee shops
• Intestines and Guts hanging out of zombies
• Frank West & Dead Rising material
• Additional Slashers like Freddy Kruger

[reef hatch]

YES!! time to rp as a ghostbuster. Awesome job peach 👏

[worldly olive]

is this update already compatible with the 41.51 version?

[late hound]

Well .51 is not out yet, so development now will seek to include compatibility when that update drops.

[severe ridge]

"this is what my garage is all about, every inch of this place sees action"

[errant meteor]

It’s a sin we do not have a update channel

Did we not have one at some point or am I wrong?

[echo leaf]

@main lion Do the attachments which display placeholder tooltips function as you'd expect (with buffs to aim, etc)? Or does Arsenal still have to hook up that functionality too?

(for weapons)

[echo leaf]

Cool stuff!

@hollow shadow I'm jones'n so hard for those car part icons. How's that goin?

[thin hornet]

i'm truly struggling with that function throwing an exception:

local notEmptyPetrolCanList = inventory:getAllTypeEvalRecurse("Koni_WaterGallonPetrol", predicateNotFull); <--- throw exception
if not notEmptyPetrolCanList:isEmpty() then
    print("Found " .. tostring(notEmptyPetrolCanList:size()) .. " not empty petrol can(s).");
end;

Could it be cause I am running it inside of the Events.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Add(Koni3WaterGallon_TakeFuelContext);

I run this one just before and it does work correctly local emptyPetrolCan = inventory:getFirstTypeRecurse("Koni_WaterGallonEmpty");

[radiant ginkgo]

@sour island Can you make me a banner for my workshop?

[sour island]

Do you know the dimensions?

and do you have some keywords

[radiant ginkgo]

I don't know, but I have an image there and it is 1361x760 and looks something like this

[fallow bridge]

YES

Fucking love hunt man

Need to play that shit again

[sour island]

Oh workshop banners can be larger

damn I've been under-utilizing all that real estate

[radiant ginkgo]

cars, russian, blueprint, vehicles, work, mechanic, realistic

Like this 😄

[sour island]

hmm

ok

[radiant ginkgo]

I will be very grateful for your work

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk

[hollow shadow]

lmao ill be taking this then

[sour island]

If you want I can change the grafitti

for armor etc

Or just add armor to the nice boys

[thin hornet]

for anyone who wanna know i couldnt get it to work but made my own function to find it through the inventory

function Koni3WaterGallon_GetNotEmptyPetrolCan(inventory)
    local result = nil;
    local items = inventory:getItems();
    
    for i = 0, items:size()-1 do
        local item = items:get(i);
        if item:getType() == "Koni_WaterGallonPetrol" and item:getUsedDelta() < 1 then
            result = item;
            break;
        end;
    end;
    
    return result;
end;

[grizzled grove]

how big can they be?

[sour island]

Well I've been making them squared

[grizzled grove]

same, and tiny

[undone crag]

Maybe if you put the word ''destroy'' before the name of the water bottle?

[sour island]

from the banner he supplied

and I know 512 is the height I've been using

the width would be 900ish

I just went off what the IS left in their example

[late hound]

In-game mod posters on the mod list can also be whatever size you want too.

[sour island]

damn

I'll have to upgrade my designs in the future

[craggy furnace]

i wish i knew that before lol

[muted grail]

is there a WW2 mod? or WW1?

[thin hornet]

would it be possible to change the icon of an item based on its used delta?

[carmine cosmos]

Yes

[stable linden]

So is it a common to get the following error on build 41 in debug mode? I get it even without mods

function: onMouseMove -- file: ISCollapsableWindow.lua line # 226```

A couple others as well - all while hovering over the different debug menus.

I've tried validating files as well as deleting media/lua and validating. I'd prefer to not do a full reinstall - so I figured I'd ask if that's common for everyone?

[austere scarab]

how do you search through the files for the game and mods decals and icons for items?

[stable linden]

If you download the modding tools and open TileZed, you can open the .pack files and export them as .png

[austere scarab]

alright first question for my first step,what are modding tools and where i can open them at?

[stable linden]

If you own the game on steam, they are downloadable through your library if you poke around a bit. You may need to look under Tools in your library

[austere scarab]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3511-pz-unpacker/ what about this

[stable linden]

Mods can place their icons under [modfolder]/media/texures/Item_[itemName].png, but I believe they can set them other ways as well.

[stable linden]

No idea, I told you how I know how

[austere scarab]

got em

now

i just need to find the mods i want to look through

these aren't what i want

but i think i did my first step

[stable linden]

Anyone know about this? 😦

Also, as far as I can tell, there's no way to create new moodles through lua?

[sour island]

it is

[stable linden]

The error is common or it is possible to create new moodles in lua? It seems that they require you to use the MoodleType enum, but that's not mutable for lua

[sour island]

the error is

[stable linden]

Gotcha, thanks!

[sour island]

also they recently announced changes to some other enums

they could probably add one for moodles

[carmine cosmos]

Are you trying to create custom moodles?

[stable linden]

Ideally. Looks like that would require java modding though, no? Trying to just do something lua based for my first could mods.

[carmine cosmos]

As far as I know this is only possible with Java

I would recommend modding with Java as that is the future of modding PZ

[stable linden]

Definitely looks like it from the source. How does deployment work for java mods? Is there a way to get them onto steam workshop? Does it have to be officially supported to do so?

[carmine cosmos]

Unless you are strictly modding UI elements in which case Lua is the way to go

[carmine cosmos]

You deploy the jar files on Github and the mod.info file on Steam Workshop

The Storm mod loader will download and load the mods for your users automatically

[stable linden]

If users do not have the storm mod loader installed, it simply wont do anything?

[carmine cosmos]

That is correct

[stable linden]

Would the workshop page need a link to Storm so that users can download it, then? I don't imagine it will be on the workshop until devs support it?

[carmine cosmos]

Storm will never be on the Steam workshop

However mods should include the the download link to Storm to help users out

[stable linden]

Integrated to the game or not - is that what you're thinking? Maybe eventually something like terraria's tmodloader?

[carmine cosmos]

I would love it if Storm was integrated into the game however that depends on the developers themselves. I've reached out to them and they seem to be happy about this project so maybe we can work together to make this happen in the future

[stable linden]

So, unrelatedish, but how are players protected from the mods they use? I've never really heard of people packaging malicious code in a mod, but if you can write arbitrary java, certainly it can be done. I made a minecraft plugin that established connections with another service for a project I was working on, for example. While mine wasn't malicious, there was nothing stopping it from being so.

[carmine cosmos]

In the future all Storm mods will be issued a certificate signed by the community

A mod will need to present this certificate in order to be loaded in to the game

If the certificate signature is correct the mod will be accepted

[stable linden]

Neat - glad you've thought about it. I'm guessing for minecraft, the download sites like curse do some cursory search when you upload the jars?

[carmine cosmos]

So malicious code will not be possible since all code will be manually inspected by Storm developers before the mod is issued a certificate

[carmine cosmos]

I don't know how Curse handles it but my plan was to keep all mods on Github

All Java mods need to be open source to get certified

[stable linden]

Cool - sounds like I might swap on over. I have one simple, simple lua mod done that I'll upload soon just to see what the interface for creators looks like 😛

[carmine cosmos]

If you are really interested I can send you a invitation link to the community

[stable linden]

I've gotten one!

[carmine cosmos]

So if you have any questions about Java modding you know where to ask

You are unlikely to get any real answers here

[stable linden]

Storm definitely seems cool and does seem like if we could get some support drummed up for it, that it would be seriously good for modding. Not to mention that it would probably lighten the load on TIS

I dunno, I guess they'd probably keep supporting lua into the future regardless?

[carmine cosmos]

I figure most people will always prefer Lua modding because it's so easy to do

And they need to support Lua modding since their whole UI logic is written in Lua

However with Storm Java should become the de-facto standard for modding

We will see if we will receive support from the development team after MP is out

[thin hornet]

is there a tool someone made to work in the recipe more easily?

the more i play in txt file the more my brain start to hurt

[carmine cosmos]

As far as I know no, but I could work on such a tool if there is enough demand

[thin hornet]

Im thinking of making one at this point

i got too many item to work with

item and recipe

[carmine cosmos]

In which language do you intend to write it?

[thin hornet]

not sure probably javascript/electron

[carmine cosmos]

Ah I see, so it's going to be an online tool

[thin hornet]

no electron is packing it as a software

usable on linux/win/macos

[carmine cosmos]

So you write it in Javascript and use Electron to package it as an executable?

[thin hornet]

yeah

it gives access to the computer for saving files etc

its just that im a javascript programmer so thats why i would go there first

[hollow shadow]

@sour island

my mod has drip now

[sour island]

Excellent

[hollow shadow]

also the bug is hopefully gone

[craggy furnace]

<@&671452400221159444> clean up on aisle dumbass

[cursive roost]

English, please.

[craggy furnace]

Looks like a phishing link

[cursive roost]

yeah, seemed that way.

[iron salmon]

It was, Beard already banned them

[craggy furnace]

Thanks guys

[smoky tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/robocop-gun-holster-gun-spin-gif-15708953

Fastest ban in the west

[cursive roost]

Wasn't gonna judge because I don't speak russian, didn't want to try it out, either ;)

[smoky tendon]

Your move, creep

[craggy furnace]

Checked it out and went “hmmmmmm”

[tidal veldt]

I am trying to increase the chances of an item to appear within a mod I'm using. I've been assuming that, within the \media\lua\server\Items\distribution.txt file, increasing the number to the right of the listed items will improve their chances to appear. For example, if the number was 0.5 and I increase it to 1.0, that should double the chance of it appearing. Is this correct?
Would it be problematic if I increase the number to 2, or 5, or 10?
Do these number represent how many times the game will roll to see if the item appears in the designated [location][container]?
Finally, what is the difference between Distributions, SuburbsDistributions, and ProceduralDistributions?

I've been looking for clear answers to these questions for a couple days but it seems like the answer is so obvious to everyone else that nobody has answered it in the past 3-ish years. So I'm feeling a bit dense at the moment. My apologies if that offends anyone. If there is a good resource with up-to-date information on modding that someone can point me towards, especially if it explains the basics, I would be appreciative.

[carmine cosmos]

Don't think he can make a move since he's insta-banned 😄

[viscid kelp]

Damn, I missed the fun part. What happened?

[sour island]

Phishing attack

[strange kiln]

what did they say though

Click this link to see hot dogs in your area!

leik

[sour island]

From what you wrote and what I remember, yes. The first number outside of the items lists adds rolls but the number following an item type is the chance %.

[sour island]

It tried to recruit people for their MLM selling Zomboid mods.