mod_development

[craggy furnace]

if its free on sketchfab, its free game

minus the honor sysstem

do not freely have your assets in the open and ready to be in the wild if you arent ready for the consequences

[willow estuary]

I mean, they couldn't make it any easier to cut and paste the CC license from the download dialogue and into your project anyways.

[craggy furnace]

i got into modder because it was a much healthier exercise from what i was doing before which was basically hacker culture/break fix

the culture is much the same

if you take others shit you give them credit for it

else theyll shit on your doorstep

[grizzled grove]

or maybe being some sort of pixel art purist?

[craggy furnace]

both of these cultures have their odd tribalism associated with "whats mine" but the premise being essentially freeware

its befuddling

[willow estuary]

Aahahaha, PZ modders are absolutely terrible at crediting other for they stuff they cut and paste in my experiences 😄

[craggy furnace]

chuck and myself literally opened our mod repo for people who wanna collab or even make their own submods

our documentation is there too

[willow estuary]

Yeah, I've ran into those too?
Pixel art really isn't my jam though, never got into the style.

[grizzled grove]

ehh, i think people have seen enough of other modders acting poorly or stealing stuff for credit that they're justified

[craggy furnace]

i dont have issues with other modders basically forking and improving what ive done

i think the insult is in bastardization

i think thats actually kind of the primal fear that drives a lot of the animus

[grizzled grove]

yeah stuff like that is usually fine. this is more just straight up theft

[craggy furnace]

tbh

in my modding experience

modders are pleasant mostly, users are 90 percent dullards

i think thats mostly my experience with users in any focus, actually

ive noticed modders breaking other mods apart and hacking it together, and honestly? thats fine and i dont think anyone here has a problem with that either

[errant meteor]

Would be cool if you could add body parts laying around

[craggy furnace]

possible, but not worth it

[errant meteor]

hello darkness my old friend

[craggy furnace]

just tweaking crashes now

need to figure out why its borked

[grizzled grove]

speaking of, i want to do bodies floating in the rivers at some point

[errant meteor]

I hope the devs remake the water, like they did with fire

[craggy furnace]

i figured out how make hanging corpses

its a bit of a gimmick, but it works

[errant meteor]

Would be cool to drive down a town and see bodies hanging from windows

[grizzled grove]

ooh. are they sprite based or 3d?

[errant meteor]

and maybe moving 😮

[craggy furnace]

3d

basically, assign a zombie an animation that "floats" them

assign a noose around their neck which is basically clothing

when its removed from the inventory just have the zombie fall

done

[grizzled grove]

perfect

[maiden elk]

I'd like to make an if-else rule for a function that if it detects a mod, it does nothing. Is something like this the correct format?

[maiden elk]

Nevermind, I can just use if not getActivatedMods():contains("ThatModID") then

[hollow shadow]

I think i understand except for "you could also have the recipemanager add to it" Not sure how to do that

[sour island]

It'd be a bit tricky- but you wouldn't have to modify vanilla recipes/risk having compat issues

basically, all recipes are on a list/table when the game finishes booting - and you can modify them after the fact.

For EHE we don't modify base game items at all- but on gameboot we assign "canopenboxes" tag to a number of items on a list.

Anyone else who'd want their mod to work with our would just have to add the tag to their items.

which has no impact outside of recipes as far as I'm aware

doing this would just be far easier/quicker:

function isWeldingMask(scriptItems)
scriptItems:addAll(getScriptManager():getItemsTag("WeldingMask"))
end

keep WeldingMask/[isWeldingMask]

you'd have to include the tag to your items, and modify the vanilla recipes asking for weldingmask

[hollow shadow]

"and modify the vanilla recipes asking for weldingmask" damn, so i would have to overwrite all vanilla recipes :(?

[sour island]

I probably said this before, but, you could also modify the vanilla weldingmask to have the tag as well-but the less vanilla stuff you change the less issues you're likely to run into

yeah, that's why I wanted to see if recipemanager was as easy to manipulate as script manager

[hollow shadow]

id rather not modify the vanilla recipes

[sour island]

I imagine if one spent some time trying to they could get the game to replace "keep WeldingMask" with "keep [isWeldingMask]" before the game registers recipes

which would be the most ideal

[hollow shadow]

Why is there no [Recipe.GetItemTypes.WeldingMask]

[sour island]

cause that uses tags

that's what the function I gave you is doing

[hollow shadow]

ohh

and since teh vanilla recieps dont have that it dont work

[sour island]

yep

[hollow shadow]

hmm

but could we still make it work for dissasembleing structures?

[sour island]

the vanilla game has like 3 typechecks

which should really be named tagcheck

disassembling structures?

[hollow shadow]

You need a welding mask to dissasemble barrels for example

[sour island]

if they're recipes you'd have to modify them too

[hollow shadow]

they arent recipes. Like, did you dissasemble furniture in a house before?=

moveables

[sour island]

you'd have to modify it too then

[hollow shadow]

;-;

darnnnn

well

[sour island]

I know people have been having issues with mapobjects and actions

[hollow shadow]

i dont think anyone is going to make a mod that modifies that aswell

how do i modify that so other welding masks work with dissasembleing metal movables

[sour island]

somewhere in the code it's going to be looking for type = "WeldingMask" most likely - you'd make it check for tag instead

[hollow shadow]

ok

[hollow shadow]

would you also happen to know how to make a clothing item play a sound when worn and while moving with it?

[sour island]

when I did swapit, there is an event for equipping stuff

you could probably do it there

if you want the sounds to be specific for items, I'd suggest using the tags system

you could have it play a default sound if no useful tags are found

InventoryItem:hasTag(string)

ignores case, which I didn't know

[hollow shadow]

i guess my idea would need extensive coding. I dont think its something i could do on my own.

[sour island]

probably not anything too intense - if you're able to advance search the entire directory

[sour island]

advanced search just means ctrl+f more than 1 file at a time basically

intelliJ lets you do that

[swift sequoia]

Do y'all give mods a beta test period and if so how do you find testers?

[red dirge]

Probably internal and trusted testers

[swift sequoia]

Hmm. This is where being a hermit fails me. I don't really know anyone. lol.

[proven ibex]

A mod that would put the tools back in the backpack or wherever they were back after usage of said activity, instead of keeping it in inventory.

[hollow shadow]

yeah, that would be so good. Especialy when you have specific containers equiped for specific items

maybe @sour island knows how to make it 😛

[proven ibex]

Oewh that would be sweet.

Would definitely give me less stress micromanaging stuff and keeping it tidy xD.

[hollow shadow]

yeah, having toolboxes would have a purpose

[red dirge]

Isn’t there a mod that adds a sign?

Also there’s a mod that adds colored crates

[hollow shadow]

thats not what we meant

[proven ibex]

No its more for inv instead containers.

[proven ibex]

Yeah or the other various stuff.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1946782371 Would pair nicely with this one, only con of the mod is it doesnt work within a container in a container but for the rest its would be neat.

[fair frost]

how can I add

custom siren to my vehicle ?

[fallow bridge]

Tester for what exactly?

[hollow shadow]

Yes and i let the people in my mod discord test.

[hollow shadow]

Anyone still got the vanilla music installed? forgot to make backup

[reef hatch]

where do i find it ill get it for ya

[reef hatch]

says its too big?

[hollow shadow]

darn

i dont want to verifiy integrity of game files becouse some mods might break then

[reef hatch]

is there any other way i could send it?

[tame mulch]

Now NPC transfer items himself and correct drop

[proven ibex]

You can try uploading it via Google drive.

[reef hatch]

you are doing gods work my man

[polar prairie]

so awesome! :)

[sand stump]

i'm using expanded helicopter events, and this fucking helicopter has been hovering in place for over 8 goddamn hours now

shouldn't it be moving n shit?

[reef hatch]

@sour island

[sand stump]

huh, it's gone now. i quit to the main menu and then loaded the save again

weird

[reef hatch]

did you disable the helicopter in the settings i know that was required

[red dirge]

Have fun escaping the horde now

[sand stump]

yes, i did

[digital trellis]

What is the music? 😄

[reef hatch]

no idea, im sure chuck will look into it

[sour island]

Did you get any errors?

[sand stump]

in fact i did, about 25,000

[red dirge]

Jesus

Make sure to clean out your error folder

[sand stump]

they're gone now for some reason though

[tame mulch]

Something from here)

[sour island]

Can you forward your console.txt over here or github

[sand stump]

alright

[digital trellis]

can you drop the link or share your playlist?

[sour island]

also did you see the shadow around you or was it just the noise?

[sand stump]

just the noise

[sour island]

that might be zomboid's sound emitters acting up

The error you were getting should be fixed now - but it didn't cause the heli to get stuck

lmk if that happens again

[tame mulch]

Its just chill radio. Cant drop(

[fallow bridge]

@craggy furnace hey how’s that clothing mod coming along? I want to touch it with my gross hand sticks

I want folded sleeeeeeveesas

[pure kraken]

So I know that Brita have his SCAR-H model and all but I'm slight bit dissatisfied with it as it's the standard length and the color is a bit off, so I decided to make my own. I have no idea how to get this to work in-game so any tip/guide is really appreciated

[hollow shadow]

damn this looks like a perfect model. Not too detailed but also not a cardboard plate with paint on it 😄

[hollow shadow]

I can teach you the whole process in a few hours as im going to sleep now

[pure kraken]

I just adjusted the trigger guard a little but yes some help would be great

[abstract elbow]

Expanded Helicopter Events what does this mod do?

i mean how do i know when the helicopter's gonna crash or smth

[agile swallow]

Model and texture looks great! May I ask why the sights (I think they're flip up sights, not sure) are folded down?

[pure kraken]

I'm thinking of making it either compatible with Brita's attachments or have similar system to his so I decided to flip them down

[agile swallow]

Ah cool. And yeah just cause the guns already available doesn't mean you shouldn't work on your own if you want to.

[pure kraken]

mhm, until I figures out how to mod properly I'll have to rely on others before I can do so

really want to mod clothing tho I have no idea how that work or where to get the based game bob and kate models

[agile swallow]

Unfortunately I don't know where to get the default player models, sorry.

But yeah everyone here is really friendly so don't feel like you can't ask questions.

@pure kraken Actually I think these are the models. #mod_development message

for the player models.

[pure kraken]

ah thanks, I'll check those out tomorrow

[agile swallow]

yeah np

[red dirge]

What’s the largest one called? xD

[placid abyss]

hello. I'm making a Mercedes-Benz E-class mod.

But I found a shader problem. Damage and Blood Overlays do not display properly when using 'vehicle_multiuv'.

If use the 'vehicle' shader, no problem.
(But i want to express blood and damage at twice, so need to use multiuv , right?)

Does anyone know about this issue?

overlay will blink like this.

[placid abyss]

well. ok, i solve problem.

[red dirge]

How?

[placid abyss]

add uv map to fbx file

[fair frost]

Hello everyone i'm trying to add custom siren into the PZ B41
but for some reasons it doesn't want to loop them and i don't know why

module Base
{
sound JanAlarm
{
category = Vehicle,
loop = true,
clip
{
file = media/sound/JanSirenAlarm.wav,
distanceMin = 10,
distanceMax = 20,
reverbMaxRange = 10,
reverbFactor = 0,
}
}

sound JanYelp
{
    category = Vehicle,
    loop = true,
    clip
    {
        file = media/sound/JanSirenYelp.wav,
        distanceMin = 10,
        distanceMax = 20,
        reverbMaxRange = 10,
        reverbFactor = 0,
    }
}

sound JanWall
{
    category = Vehicle,
    loop = true,
    clip
    {
        file = media/sound/JanSirenWall.wav,
        distanceMin = 10,
        distanceMax = 30,
        reverbMaxRange = 10,
        reverbFactor = 0,
    }
}

}

[late hound]

You have to refer this in your vehicle script file now.

[fair frost]

i did
lightbar
{
soundSiren = JanSiren,
}

[late hound]

Yeah, but none of your sounds are called JanSiren.

[fair frost]

the txt file is

[late hound]

I suggest looking at an example from Fillibusters to set it straight. It's where I learned how to do it.

[fair frost]

you think I didn't ?

i did

[late hound]

How should I know?

[hollow shadow]

@pure kraken im available now if you need help with the gun

[fair frost]

okay...I uh managed to figure it out
thx for help and sorry for being a bit rude @late hound

[hollow shadow]

Can only the oldmusic bank files be modified?

[pure kraken]

I'm working on more models rn maybe sometime after that

I want to have a whole bunch of stuff prepped in term of models

[fallow bridge]

@pure kraken nice pfp

[pure kraken]

thanks, only for this month tho. have to draw a new one for next month later

[fallow bridge]

Oh you draw them yourself?

[pure kraken]

yep that I did

[fallow bridge]

It’s really good! Your talented

[fair frost]

https://gyazo.com/f8e4a81e0717c8e456edc98f631d8b19

[fallow bridge]

Car noises

[tame mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7omEcSv60U

[undone heron]

looks gooood

[fallow bridge]

@craggy furnace hey hows that clothing mod? 🙂

[torn stream]

@pure kraken oh hi pento

Good to see you around here

[pure kraken]

hey man

[placid abyss]

While creating the vehicle damage overlay texture,
I saw the dark areas being replaced with gray.

.... Is there any way to fix this?

view blender

view ingame

[radiant ginkgo]

@placid abyss Does this dark area have transparency?

[placid abyss]

no, 100% alpha

ok. try 99% alpha

[radiant ginkgo]

There is a little dark area in the front, perhaps because of the mask?

[placid abyss]

yes. they are diffent mask

70% transparency value, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.

In detachable such as trunk doors, hoods and door's layer.

It seems to replace dark colors with light grays.

why???

[placid abyss]

textureDamage1Overlay = Vehicles/Vehicles_benze_Blood1,
textureDamage2Overlay = Vehicles/Vehicles_benze_Blood2,
textureDamage1Shell = Vehicles/Vehicles_benze_Damage1Shell,
textureDamage2Shell Vehicles/Vehicles_benze_Damage2Shell,

damage and blood two layer, were set to two level.
Damage layer is working well.
but bood only level 1 shown.

am i missing something?

[radiant ginkgo]

@placid abyss I think the game itself colors your damage as vanilla cars have a transparent texture to automatically set color in game and the damage is also painted in color of car. Since your texture is completely solid, the car color will not be visible but damage will be. I may be wrong but I've come across this on my vehicles

[placid abyss]

umm... i mean

When the condition of a part is below 60%
damage1 is overlaid.
Under 40%, damage2 overlaid.

yup, my mod. damage layer good working.

And when roadkill a zombie, blood1 is overlaid.
but, if kill more zombies, blood2 will not be overlaid. just blood1

[radiant ginkgo]

Blood1 should be the same as Blood2 , just two identical textures with different names

[placid abyss]

same texture?

[radiant ginkgo]

Yes

Similar

[placid abyss]

So, how do you express an increase blood..?

[radiant ginkgo]

The game itself gradually increases the blood, but you can do on the texture as you like.

The maximum blood will be as you have on the texture

[placid abyss]

agh... understood

thanks you

[placid abyss]

Rusted, bleed, dameged benz. very.. beautiful....

[low yarrow]

Thats just awesome! Cant wait for it 😄

[hollow shadow]

Is there a way to force melee weapons to multi hit a specific number of zombies without enableing multi hit in the settings?

[errant meteor]

If only someone made a guitar mod, and had all of the stalker songs hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[austere scarab]

Something it's killing my compability to Alfrety's Soda mod

[errant meteor]

^ same, I spoke to the modder, and we could not figure it out

[marsh beacon]

Are all the trait info scattered across all of the hardcoded files?

[worldly olive]

Hey @sour island @craggy furnace I saw the comment "They are less frequent, but should never stop. The config option to adjust cutoff day is still new and may need more tweaking." is this with the latest update? I'm really excited to use this mod, I just want to do it once I can have it forever! 😄

[craggy furnace]

iirc, we did it recently?

they never stop but get incredibly infrequent

[worldly olive]

As per the mod description I thought that the events finished the first month! if they don't that's awesome

[craggy furnace]

its been a day by day

ive been watching streamers and taking notes on how they play and whats the most fun and makes the most sense

[worldly olive]

If the events keeps happening (even if they are less frequently) I'm pretty sure many players that want challenges will have that mod always! same here haha

[craggy furnace]

when the mod is at a point where its pretty stable for the vast majority of mods, we might whiteboard what we wanna do next anything special late game if at all

i am working on air dropped bombs, at the moment

[worldly olive]

Do you have any clue of what kind of mod could be incompatible? any specific function or something that should not be modified? to take it into consideration!

[sour island]

Surprisingly it's been pretty stable- the issue that came up were related to modmenu but it was on our end.

[worldly olive]

As soon as my current game finished I will give it a try!

[sour island]

I think superb survivors had a fluke of an issue in that two functions were named the same thing

[tardy plaza]

Better than the original

[worldly olive]

I don't use it so I shouldn't have much problems, I mostly use vanilla friendly mods

[craggy furnace]

chuck is right, shockingly, the game doesnt explode

which has got me mildly gobsmacked

[tardy plaza]

Is superb survivors like...a NPC mod?

[craggy furnace]

yes

id suggest aiterons currently WIP version

[tardy plaza]

Does it work on B40 MP?

[craggy furnace]

no

NPC mods hinge on player characters

[worldly olive]

Totally agree

Soon I'll test the mod and will let you know if I find something! awesome works guys 😄

[craggy furnace]

okie dokie

hit us up

[worldly olive]

I have a question, the option to make the helicopters to stay forever is an extra option and not part of the sandbox option, right? I mean, I could create a game with 12 months from apocalipse and still the configuration of the mod is extra?

[craggy furnace]

here is the config menu

basically, you can have it run for quite a bit

[worldly olive]

The cutoff days means the day the helicopter will become severely more infrequent?

[craggy furnace]

the actual cut off is for the events

from example on day X jets stop

its probably hard to explain all this as i have a tension headache at the moment lol

[worldly olive]

hahahaha don't worry, knowing that the events will occurs sometimes no matter the duration the game can be already makes me happy

[craggy furnace]

Yank it up to 100 days

When we get access to better menu support, better things can be done

[ripe chasm]

hello all just wondering if there's a mod that allows me to drink water from a kettle. or a cooking pot. doesn't make much sense to me that i can store water in things but cant even drink it

don't really want to die of thrist on the road. any ideas?

water bottles basically hiding from me rn

[upper junco]

It doesn’t auto drink from the kettle?

[ripe chasm]

doesnt let me no, maybe its just a bug with all the mods i got

[deft peak]

Think this is the wrong channel for mod suggestions and not sure if someone has made something like this yet, but what if someone took all the musical items in the game and actually made a use for them? (instead of being weapons) Y'know when practising/using them i'd cure depression and bordem, it can be social if you had superb survivors or AI mods of any kind you'd see them playing at camps etc.

[maiden elk]

Example lua:
local function changeProperties() local Golfclub = getScriptManager():getItem("Base.Golfclub") Golfclub:setMaxHitCount(2) end Events.OnPreMapLoad.Add(changeProperties)

[hollow shadow]

👌

[uncut meteor]

why my weapon is invisible on ground no model3d or icon any idea ?

[uncut meteor]

fixed

[keen summit]

hi everyone! There is a way to test npc Aiteron mod atm? can't find it on workshop

[red dirge]

What does it mean cut off day?

[hollow shadow]

nop, its private atm

[keen summit]

thx 😉

[half oracle]

Whats NPC Aiteron mod?

[plucky nova]

the NPC mod that Aiteron is working on

[half oracle]

Hmmm i see

[tame mulch]

How better to do search items in area command? Like forage or by radial menu? What would be more convenient for you? (new NPC mod)

[late hound]

I personally like the radial menu more

[worldly olive]

If you do it in a radial menu, how can you multicheck more options? for example. I imagine it as:
A radial menu that will have the option for foraging, but after that, how do you select what you want that them search? is there going to be a second instance?

If the options are single-option radial es much better, but if that leads you to multiple options, a radial should be then converted to a window like the foraging one I think 🤔

[tame mulch]

If radial menu, it will be special radial menu that dont close. And you can choose multiple categories and then choose find

[fallow bridge]

i think the forging menu is a lot better

instead of going through like 4 different menu's

it's just one menu

seems a lot more player friendly

[worldly olive]

If that's an option that can be done, then I think radial is better

[fallow bridge]

problem with radial

is they wouldn't search for more than one i'd imagine

with the foraging menu, it'd be able to search for more than one

[worldly olive]

I assume that the option for Foraging is going to be together with the other orders for the NPC
So you open a first instance of the radial with all the orders, then you select the foraging option that will open a second instance of all the options that you want him to forage, that's right?

[fallow bridge]

perhaps @tame mulch you could make it a option for one or the other

give people an option for that?

[late hound]

but when scavenging, I wouldn't want the NPC to scavenge for more than one type of resource

Radial menu is also more aesthetically pleasing than the old scavenging menu

[fallow bridge]

eh

i just don't think it'd be too player friendly

[tame mulch]

I will do prototype with radial menu to show what i want to do

[worldly olive]

But, Scavenge and Foraging are different actions as I understand, also you could send an NPC to scavenge for food and ammo for example, there you have multiple options, same as for foraging, maybe you want materials and berries

[fallow bridge]

but with the radial menu you can only choose one option, you can't choose multiple, so it would be either food or ammo

unlike if he uses the foraging menu system where you could choose everything or nothing

[worldly olive]

You can make it for multiple-options as per Aiteron above comment

[fallow bridge]

hm

must of read it wrong

[worldly olive]

That's the first thing I asked, if the multiple-options is available, then radial is better, if not, then the window

"If radial menu, it will be special radial menu that dont close. And you can choose multiple categories and then choose find" this one

[fallow bridge]

as he said he will make a prototype example

[late hound]

Plus with the radial menu, icon art can be attached to it, which would add to the aesthetic of it. @tame mulch I would be willing to help create this btw!

[fallow bridge]

as i said i read it wrong

[worldly olive]

Agree, icons are very friendly

[tame mulch]

Cool, thanks!

[craggy furnace]

it means when it stops

[red dirge]

I’ll have to change that

[tame mulch]

Find items radial menu concept @late hound , @fallow bridge

[late hound]

Sweet!

[fallow bridge]

That looks good actually

[drifting ore]

That's looks rad dawg

Can someone who've done modded clothes before help me with it?

[indigo hound]

КРАСАВЕЦ!

[rancid tulip]

Pretty cool, hope it works out well in the end.

[drifting ore]

Imma need the dude who made that heli mod

[red dirge]

Which one?

The flying one or the extended heli event

[worldly olive]

Awesome!

[drifting ore]

Extended heli

I wanted to tell him that he is cool

The mod is rad

[red dirge]

It’s shark but you can dm him/her

[fallow bridge]

him

[red dirge]

I always say him/her

Cuz some people will flip out

[errant meteor]

Screen blackens, NPC is no where to be found, comes back a few days later with the goods you requested to be found.

[tame mulch]

It will be raids

now i am working to look items near

[tardy plaza]

Does this mod work in B40, you think?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2503622437&searchtext=

Ah nm. I found on the last page of the comments it's for b41

[calm sand]

Sorry if this has been addressed already, but has anyone else been having issues with Extended Helicopter Events where ambient sounds like rain and birds just stop working? They seem to go into their own category in the advanced sound options called "AUTO"

[craggy furnace]

could be an FMOD issue

we will look at it later

[calm sand]

Alrighty, couldn't find anything about it so I figured I'd bring it up

[craggy furnace]

thanks, we appreciate it

[errant meteor]

It would be cool if someone modded in board and card games in PZ, especially with multiplayer

[reef hatch]

playing chess while the zeds break down the front door 😂

[abstract raptor]

So I wanna add like basements to my map; I was thinking of making a custom tile for such a basement entrance and then using some modding magic to link each thing to a proper off map area that would emulate the basement

[tame mulch]

Like teleport to room "Basement" in another part of map?

Now NPC can find water sources and fill bottles

Also more categories

[drifting ore]

So are you making that?

[tame mulch]

Working on searching items

[sour island]

Looks good

[abstract raptor]

Mhm

Basically build an entire separate part of the map where all the basement areas are stored

then create objects that when interacted with allow for fast easy teleportation between the two areas

[sand stump]

i can't wait for this mod to be out, it's gonna be like the superb survivors all over again

[tame mulch]

Good idea. I thought about this method of creating a basement once. I think it's not hard to code

[sand stump]

it'll be sick seeing other npcs that can dynamically interact with the world better than the superb survivors did

[tame mulch]

Only problem that player can destroy walls. Maybe will need put water between basements

[abstract raptor]

Easily solved

I can make an impassable tile that is black

[upper junco]

If you place outside the map they shouldn’t be able walk on the blacked out area right?

[abstract raptor]

Yes

[upper junco]

Yes they can or yes they can’t

[abstract raptor]

Yes they can't

[drifting ore]

can they survive for more then 4 days without starving doe...

[plucky nova]

id assume that they are smarter, yeah

lol

[fringe oxide]

From a modding perspective, is it possible to create motorcycles in Project Zomboid?

[willow estuary]

No.

[coral tendon]

well yeah

yes it does

[willow estuary]

Not ones that people would like.

[coral tendon]

people made shopping cart mods

and they work well as far as ive seen

[willow estuary]

Shopping carts(ie inventory items) =/= Vehicles PZ code wise
The player model would be invisible.

[coral tendon]

isnt the modcart considered a vehicle tho

with its own animation

[willow estuary]

It's an inventory item.

[fringe oxide]

Sad

[eternal stirrup]

Couldn't the motorcycle model be created with a generic rider model already sitting on it, and being masked out with invisible texture when you get off?

[fringe oxide]

That's a good idea

But i think PZ code cant do it

[willow estuary]

IMO it's not worth releasing a version with a generic rider model, as people will complain/suggest to no end about that aspect of it.
When PZ updates to having visible vehicle passengers, as its supposed to at some point, then, AFAIC, it's workwhile doing a motorcycle mod.

I have a bunch of similar working modded vehicles (dune buggies, convertibles, minicopters, etc) that I'm not releasing to the workshop until that happens.

Also PZ currently only supports 4-wheeled vehicles (Fili's 6 wheel trucks are using fakery). So that's another issue, albeit minor, to work around with adding in motorcycles.

You can "fake" 2 wheels visually with 4 wheels.

[worldly olive]

Hi @craggy furnace @sour island testing the mod with some others an error is appearing:
STACK TRACE

function: getDistanceToVector -- file: ExpandedHelicopter01_Main.lua line # 375
function: launch -- file: ExpandedHelicopter01_Main.lua line # 550
function: eHeliEvent_engage -- file: ExpandedHelicopter06_EventScheduler.lua line # 62
function: eHeliEvent_Loop -- file: ExpandedHelicopter06_EventScheduler.lua line # 219

Here's the log if it useful for you in any way!

[sour island]

Thank you! This error keeps cropping up. Not sure why though.

What other mods are you using?

[worldly olive]

Something I think (maybe it's really stupid but), does it have sense that if the config of the game is 12 months after the apocalypse and the cutoff day is as default, the mod doesn't understand that it should start at 365 days? I didn't see the code so I have no idea how the mod and how the game manage those configs of 1-12 months in the sandbox config

The other mods are: Snake's pack, Dynamic Traits and Blair's mod Worse Searching and Fuel Pumps Run Out

[sour island]

Snake's pack is a group of mods?

[worldly olive]

Yeap exactly, the whole pack, http://pzmodding.blogspot.com/2020/08/pack-de-mods-by-snake.html this mods

[sour island]

This error is when the helicopter is is trying to update position but there's a part of the target information missing. I've put up checks before it launches and before it respawns but I'm not sure why the same error keeps happening. There's no impact to gameplay though- just a alot of errors.

[worldly olive]

But does the events occurs anyway?

[solemn pebble]

This can happen because the character is inside a building?

[sour island]

Yes the error seems to only happen at some point where there is no target

[sour island]

I don't think so, the helicopters have a target and trueTarget to handle losing people indoors

If they lose someone long enough they're supposed to take on a trueTarget of a floor tile

[solemn pebble]

Those errors happened to me, and they appeared when I was inside a building.
There was no event anyway.

[sour island]

Hmm

[indigo holly]

The same thing happens to me, with mods or without mods errors jump and no heli

[red dirge]

@indigo holly question. If you use the cheat mod and turn on ghost mode would it bug the heli?

CRap wrong guy

Was meant for chuck

[indigo holly]

I don't use the cheat menu

[red dirge]

It was meant for chuck

[indigo holly]

aa ok haahhhaa

[hollow shadow]

Someone update the reading animation to be more realistic pls thx: https://youtu.be/xMIGuSDa5dk

[solemn pebble]

@sour island I have tested with several games in different situations.
With mods, without mods, with different sandbox configurations, setting the mod to 30 days, setting it to more than 30 days....
It doesn't work at all, it's completely broken 🥺

Errors start appearing and there is no event

I have even tested several times with the apocalypse vanilla configuration without helicopters and nothing, it doesn't work.

[sour island]

Are you on B40?

[solemn pebble]

41

[sour island]

Can you upload the console.txt to github if you don't mind?

It's very strange that you're not getting any events- the one error that everyone seems to be getting shouldn't actually impact the mod or performance

@solemn pebble

[solemn pebble]

I will do it later 😉

[autumn garnet]

@sour island

The same problem for me, I tested without and with mod and with different configuration (debug mod and without debug mod)

[sour island]

Thank you 👍

[violet sluice]

How hard would it be to make a mod that adds like several keys of various colors. And hides them around the map. Like there would only be 1 key of each color, but they are all hidden around the game world. I’m thinking about maybe getting into modding and my first idea I would like to try would be to make a Complete the monument style challenge. Where you would need to find and collect all the keys maybe to open something and once it’s open you won’t the challenge.

Has anyone ever played old Minecraft complete the monument maps?

If anyone hasn’t the general idea is that you need to collect various object usually blocks of specific color that are hidden in the game world in specific areas.

[violet sluice]

Hmm. I read the pinned guide on modding. I guess I’ll just start trying to figure it out and if I run into issues I’ll ask more specific things.

[tame mulch]

Finding Food and water when hungry/thirst

[drifting ore]

Would there be like, a Knox power plant? To restore power to the county?

[errant meteor]

Can we make them only eat, when very hungry?

[tame mulch]

I set them eat only when more then light hungry

[errant meteor]

k

[wheat hare]

What mod do you use?

Mods*

[tame mulch]

?

It's my mod WIP

[wheat hare]

What mods do you use in the game?

I am new here. Please help me

[tame mulch]

Here for example my mod collection https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2395746959

[hollow shadow]

Do they also die instantly to hordes behind bathroom doors?

[wheat hare]

Thank you so much

It's compatible with Hydrocraft?

Build 41

[errant meteor]

That is your problem hydro craft has so much stuff, that something is bound to break

[tame mulch]

Thanks for idea for check! I found another some bugs

[abstract raptor]

eyyy

someone wanna help me figure out how to get my cacti to do damage if you run into one?

uwu

[errant meteor]

How about you start with barb wire that already in the game

[tame mulch]

I checked. Sad, but collision with tree not trigger OnObjectCollide event. So the only way that i see is check onTick if near is Tree. But it will be bad for perfomance

[abstract raptor]

Darn! Oh well, it's not really that important to do, it was a request -- honestly it'd be super annoying if you were just always getting environmentally damaged by cacti

[tame mulch]

As idea - add on click get agave juice to make later tequila 😄

[abstract raptor]

Or how about this

I hide Peyote in the foraging tables; eating them causes the climate to change colors randomly for several hours

[tame mulch]

I hope at the end it will be possible run my mod with more than 0.5f NPC on the map

https://tenor.com/view/tom-y-jerry-tom-and-jerry-meme-sad-cry-gif-18054267

[craggy furnace]

pain

[late hound]

accurate ngl

[muted grail]

and thats why i dont mod

[craggy furnace]

modding PZ can go two ways

it can either be a really fulfilling and fun experience

or it can feel like working long hours at a law firm that does foreclosures and the result was a pizza party

[errant meteor]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2478247379&searchtext= Anyone know why hoods can not have more health? after running over 3 zombies it lost 20% health

[muted grail]

i already have problems adding stuff to facebook xD

i was trying to make a website with wordpress, but i did throw that one away caus wellll i swear to much - according to my wife

if i don't understand it, it grows into chaos very fast. So :S i rather support you guys doing great work

[undone crag]

Almost 9 months ago I started on a Project Zomboid mod and I stopped about a month later because I was stuck on a script error, and I looked at it again recently and I saw the two problems and fixed them.

I started on another one about 18 months ago and did a lot of maths and things for it and I stopped without finishing it, possibly to continue later, but now it's been over a year.

[muted grail]

i would already use so many curse-words >.> that the doctor will say 'think of your heart'

[lost spear]

So i want to ask the modders here, what starts to cause zomboid to studder? Obviously its not a very well optimized game with build 41 but is it the number or mods, or the type of mods?

Ie too many mods or is it too many map additions that cause the issue?

I play the game without studders for about half an hour then it starts to get worse and worse with time happening more and more often until its almost every 5 seconds and then I have to restart to make it playable again

Yeah its a horribly optomized game lets be real

haha

[fallow bridge]

I think I read that wrong

[lost spear]

Ah was wondering why you deleted it.

[fallow bridge]

Yeh

[lost spear]

Either way, know the reason why it just randomly starts to studder?

I know its my mods i can say that I just want to know if its number or the type

[hollow shadow]

Same issue here, how to fix

[lost spear]

How many mods do you run?

Im curious

[hollow shadow]

100+

[lost spear]

jesus haha

More then me lol

[errant meteor]

Turning down everything to mid or below, help a lot for me, that being said I have a 2080s and 3700x with 16gb of ram

[lost spear]

Its zomboid its just fucked.

Ill do some testing tomorrow, ill let you know @hollow shadow

[drifting ore]

Same, I've around 111 mods. It may be fucked, but how do PZ Youtubers record it so fluidly?

[hexed anchor]

because usually they have money to spend on state of the art parts

it's what brings them income anyways

[lost spear]

Editing.

Editing out restarting the game

[errant meteor]

^

[lost spear]

I have a high end rig it still studders to hell

[drifting ore]

My recording stutters way more than the game though, which is infuriating.

[hollow shadow]

Could this work?

[maiden elk]

Yes? Go into the game and test it out, should be pretty obvious if it actually works.

[undone crag]

You're getting a scriptitem and changing the stats with those functions, I don't know actually. I use doparam.
Oh you're trying to make them hit multiple opponents without enabling multihit, nvm.

[hollow shadow]

it didnt work ;-;

[grim rose]

i have question

how to open .x file?

[maiden elk]

Is your Module name correct? I see SWeapons, not SW

[hollow shadow]

oopsie doopsie

also

do i put it in the client or server lua?

wait i guess that doesnt even matter

[grim rose]

i literary dowland older version of blender so i can convert x files to normal blend ones

[ruby urchin]

just stay with .fbx format, not really necesary convert to .x file

[grim rose]

i just realized, that if somebody wrote that in x file why should i write in it too...

i am sh*t dev for now

[hollow shadow]

Can melee weapons have attachments like guns?

[grim rose]

i think so

like baseball bat with nails

[maiden elk]

Bipods on knives.

[hollow shadow]

no

[grim rose]

yea i just realized we create other item

my bad

[hollow shadow]

yeah but imagine instead of crafting a seperate baseball bat with wire you could seperately add Leather strips for grip and barbed wire seperately

instead of crafting a whole new item

[ruby urchin]

dont worry for that, with time you can be better, btw, I am creating a documentation to better understand things

[grim rose]

great

super i created a mod i would call "activate this mod to crash your game"

[agile swallow]

If your making a model you can use .fbx, but if your trying to open a .x in blender so you can properly scale your model I would personally recommend using a program like fragMOTION to convert it to a .obj which you can open in blender.

[grim rose]

thank you

[agile swallow]

Yeah no problem man I ran into the same issue when I made my gun mod.

[grim rose]

fragMOSOFT?
or
fragMOTION?

[agile swallow]

fragMOTION I believe.

Think this is it. http://www.fragmosoft.com/fragMOTION/index.php

[agile swallow]

Is this publicly available as of now or is it still in dev?

[grim rose]

gees, windows scared me with security alert after dowlanding it

Saying "there is no problem sir, we scanned pc2 times today"

[agile swallow]

I haven't had any issues with it, I think it's just because it's from an unknown publisher. I think quite a few people here use it.

[grim rose]

Oi

[craggy furnace]

1 security vendor

and?

[agile swallow]

Hmm might just be a false flag. Only one flagged it.

[grim rose]

VM time

[agile swallow]

Yeah you could do that.

The only weird thing about the program is that in order to use it you need to write a bible verse word for word. I think it's just the dev trying to spread the word.

It activates a 7 day license or something but you can renew it once it runs out by typing it again.

[grim rose]

🤔

[agile swallow]

Yeah it's weird.

[grim rose]

i prefer to stick to half baked extencion for blender~then

but first stuff i will do in near future is to run it on vm

[agile swallow]

Yeah I tried using that but it was only for old versions and I didnt wanna bother.

[grim rose]

2.66

its "working"™️

ofc its not

[agile swallow]

Don't know what to tell you then 😦

[ruby urchin]

Still in development, but barely I finished Scripting manual I release it

[agile swallow]

ah cool

[grim rose]

i started to learn from yt video from "blackbeard"

he made nuka cola there

[agile swallow]

Yeah I followed that tutorial as well.

[hollow shadow]

@low yarrow Do you think its possible to make weapon attachments for melee weapons? Like putting sights on guns. But with melee weapons you would add nails / barbed wire and leatherstrips / cloth / ducttape

[agile swallow]

I don't think the link in your discord status works btw.

[grim rose]

bruh i wanted to copy paste story to friend kek

very wierd software so well, we will talk a bit about it

[agile swallow]

@hollow shadow Do you know anything about fragMOTION that you can add? This guys a bit wary of using it.

[ruby urchin]

Ah yeah jaja, I haven't been working on anything lately, so no donations for now lmao

[hollow shadow]

whats fragmotion

[agile swallow]

Oh I thought you used it sorry

It's a program that lets you decompile the .x files that zomboid uses.

I forget who here told me about it.

[agile swallow]

understandable, just thought I'd let you know.

[hollow shadow]

i use blender 2.7 xd

[agile swallow]

Oh yeah I remember, you couldn't use my .blends cause they were from 2.9 lol

[grim rose]

i used blender 2.66

[late hound]

I am also putting together an in-depth guide on general 3d model creation for Zomboid, stay tuned for that. From Blender to the game.

[grim rose]

is there pz modding subreddit?

[late hound]

If there is, I haven't heard of it.

[agile swallow]

I think theres just this channel lol

[grim rose]

i think we should create that sub

[late hound]

I am planning on posting my guide to the Indiestone forums where the other main guides are located.

[low yarrow]

Everything is somehow possible.
But i dont have the knowledge to do that right now. 😄

[hollow shadow]

would it require coding or can i just try to use the same way as guns do?

[low yarrow]

You might want to take a look at that: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Sling

It seems like the "mounton" has to be defined and thats it

And then add modifiers:

Anwser is:
No, it shouldnt require much coding. The most difficulty part could be to find the modifiers you need

Oh. It seems like you will need a screwdriver for every mod you will install.
So thats eventually something which makes sense or not, which might require some coding to fix that. 😄

[grim rose]

[17-06-21 23:34:59.891] LOG  : Mod         , 1623965699891> loading SFK.
[17-06-21 23:34:59.892] LOG  : Mod         , 1623965699892> mod "SFK" overrides media/lua/server/items/distributions.lua.
[17-06-21 23:34:59.920] LOG  : General     , 1623965699920> translator: language is EN.
[17-06-21 23:34:59.975] LOG  : General     , 1623965699975> texturepack: loading UI.
[17-06-21 23:35:00.004] LOG  : General     , 1623965700003> texturepack: loading UI2.
[17-06-21 23:35:00.080] LOG  : General     , 1623965700080> texturepack: loading IconsMoveables.
[17-06-21 23:35:00.081] LOG  : General     , 1623965700081> texturepack: loading RadioIcons.

idiot i am

[17-06-21 23:38:17.466] LOG  : Mod         , 1623965897466> loading SFK.```

now it is good

pz crashed again

i think i will restart pc

see if it will fix performance

[hollow shadow]

I know a mod that removes screwdriver need. might look into that

Thanks for the help

[grim rose]

mine mod crashes zomboid when loading

:(

feck i will tommorow go back to it

gn

[undone crag]

You don't need a screwdriver.

local factoryItem = InventoryItemFactory.CreateItem("SomeItemName");
self.gun:attachWeaponPart(factoryItem);
self.character:resetEquippedHandsModels();```

self.gun:detachWeaponPart(weapon:getCanon())```
No screwdriver

[tame mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ7La9xwFZ4

[agile swallow]

The radial menu looks really nice and intuitive.

[worldly olive]

@craggy furnace @sour island is there any possibility that the game settings can affect the mod? something about fps, vsync, I don't know, I see people that plays the mod and it works for them but I can't make it work no matter the game 🤔

[craggy furnace]

whats your mod list?

[worldly olive]

i've just tried vanilla, pure vanilla, with helicopters enabled, without helicopters, cutoff 30, cutoff 100, I even switched the language to see if that could cause the problem, but I just can't make it work and I don't understand 🤔 I'm thinking it is more related to a game configuration and not sandbox/mod configuration

[sour island]

So I've seen a few people mention not getting it to work- do you mean that no events ever occur?

[worldly olive]

yeah exactly, the events never occurs, I have tried with them in often, and no way for them to appear, and then I go to a twitch stream and I see that for the the events happens all the time with 192381293 mods 🤔

[sour island]

strange

are you enabling it per save or in the main menu?

[worldly olive]

Main menu

It makes no sense actually 🤔

[sour island]

are there any errors you're aware of

and can you try sending a console.txt afterwards

also, should be updating soon

so it may rectify the situation

[craggy furnace]

i am pushing the update now

everyone will receive it shortly

it is now pushed, report any issues

[placid dagger]

So I JUST noticed the NPC eating from the fridge was eating a uncooked chicken. XD

[worldly olive]

I will test it right now and let you know

[sour island]

👍

Does anyone know of a way to identify the bounds of a map?

given maps can be modded to be larger or different sizes

[worldly olive]

No lucky for me 😦

[craggy furnace]

strange

[worldly olive]

Absolutly, I thought It could be the language so I switched to english, I tried different fps settings, vsync, resolution, but I don't get it

[craggy furnace]

its reading issues with event scheduling and distance

bah humbug

[fallow bridge]

@tame mulch I WANT EAT

i just saw that

from your dev vid about the NPC mod

"I WANT EAT"

you want any help translating?

[tame mulch]

Maybe some help will need later :) to check texts

[fallow bridge]

of course

hmu in DM's whenever and give me a basic idea of what you want them to say

and i'll write out sentences or something for you to copy paste and use

[tame mulch]

Thanks!

[fallow bridge]

don't thank me

it's not that big of a thing that requires thanks

[indigo holly]

@craggy furnace The same thing happens to me and to many more ... it is inexplicable that many people do. it works and others don't, it gives a lot to think about ...

It is curious because the majority of the people who cannot use the mod are Spanish-speaking

[sour island]

And you're not using any mods or maps, correct?

[worldly olive]

Chuck, I just see this message I can answer that, Chirli, ditoseadio and me have tested it it many ways, and is fails in the same way, the three of us are spanish-speakers so that's why I mentioned the theory that it doesn't work in the spanish translate but in english same situation 😦

[sour island]

The error logs I'm getting are flooded with other mod's debug messages. Which is fine but some of the messages are just random numbers alone...

I don't understand how it would impact you guys so severely that you'd never see an event.

Is the Zomboid directory still media/lua/client media/lua/server for Spanish users?

[hollow shadow]

@maiden elk Cant get it to work :<

it doesnt create any errors tho

[worldly olive]

ProjectZomboid\media\lua\server mine is like this 🤔

[sour island]

That's fine, I was just wondering the order

If you have some time could you send over a log with yesterday's changes?

[worldly olive]

Let me repro it again and I'll sent you a new log

[sour island]

Thank you!

[worldly olive]

There is it, repro it twice

[sour island]

Thank you very much.

[worldly olive]

No prob! 😄

[sour island]

Just to clarify, this has always happened to you? Are there other mods which have a similar "anti-spanish" issue?

Have you reverified Zomboid through steam? (this would remove anything manually changed in Zomboid)

[solemn pebble]

I don't think it is related to the language.
I have copied the same game configuration as drunkoflife, without any mod, and I get those errors and no events of any kind.

No matter if you use mods or not, no matter if you use a specific configuration or different one, the result is always the same; the mod does not work 🥺

[sour island]

It appears you're all getting a similar error but I am not sure why.

The exact place it's happening is when comparing two Vectors

And it is part of the mod that does something really silly to get around a PZ issue.

Does anyone know if 'tostring()' would be in some way language dependant?

[tame mulch]

What arguments in tostring func?

[drifting ore]

Будут ли эти нпс работать на модовых картах?

[maiden elk]

Where did you place it exactly? Try lua/shared

[tame mulch]

yes

[drifting ore]

https://tenor.com/view/hat-tip-thanks-thank-you-welcome-youre-welcome-gif-18643868

Удачи в создание модов

[verbal pier]

Hello! New to the server.

A friend of mine got me back into the game - and I noticed that the game runs on JAVA.
I did some looking around, and I saw no news about switching the JAVA VM in the games directory.
In games like Minecraft - Swaping the VM to OpenJDK or GraalVM delivers much lower RAM usage and performance.

Since I have personally not played the game much, and I dont understand how much of an impact such a change would have - I have given that friend of mine to ttry it out.

He told me that the game loads much quicker then before - shaiving 20+ seconds off loading times - and other then one small lighting glitch thats hard to describe - the game runs fine.

has anyone else tweaked around with such a thing?
Thankyou!

[fallow bridge]

i think one other person did, perhaps you could make a mod out of it? :p

[verbal pier]

Its not something that can be modded into the game with the modding framework in place.
It's replacing the java instillation that comes with the game.

making a mod out of it not be that practical, since java is always updating.
what would be better suited in a guid on how to do it; But since there is little to no pre existing information about such a tweak on this game - there is no way to know what errors it might produce

I'm just really interested on how much it could help the game, since alot have problems with how it runs

and since it helped MC alot

boy

I also tested java 11, and thats a nogo lol
As i expected

[sour island]

So it's a bit convoluted but vector2 are broken (they have X/Y). So, I use vector3 instead which has XYZ- but no getX/getY/getZ -- so I use tostring() on vector3s and extract the values that way as xy is there.

[tame mulch]

why use tostring, if you can use Vector3f.new() and then get x,y,z by vec:x(), vec:y(), vec:z() @sour island

*p.s. vector2 broken because exist lua class Vector2

[sour island]

I know.

[sour island]

I could check again but there is no :x(), :y().

[tame mulch]

in default media files used Vector3f and :x(), ...

[sour island]

This may not be the issue these people are having but it's the only thing I can think could be causing issues with other languages than English?

Vector3f isn't the same as Vector3

[tame mulch]

yep

[dreamy silo]

hey im looking for the vanilla meat-cleaver, where do you find it? I found it should be base.MeatCleaver but it doesnt work

[shut storm]

you can use cheat menu mod and try searching for "meat cleaver" or something, or u can try to search in kintcheens

[dreamy silo]

I looked in all game files and didnt find it ^^

neither in several dozen kitchens or half a dozen restaurants

yeah the cheat menu can give it, but I wanna find it 😉

but thanks for the last possibility 😄

[willow estuary]

im still on 40.43
Meat Cleavers don't exist in b40 PZ.

[dreamy silo]

oh

but hydrocraft needs it

^^

[willow estuary]

Hydrocraft?

[dreamy silo]

one of the biggest PZ-mods?

[willow estuary]

If you need help with Hydrocraft stuff there's a Discord for that mod. This server has a rule against sharing discord links, but he workshop page should serve as a means to finding it.

[sour island]

Also make sure you're not using hydrocraft 41

[hollow shadow]

Still doesnt work ;-;

[maiden elk]

Weird. Did you try it on existing weapons or did you spawn new ones? What if you remove SWeapons as your module and simply change both txt with items and lua into Base?

Also, that code is literally what https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2296367496 uses and there it Just Works™️

[willow estuary]

In order for the multihit feature to get applied you have to have the "multihit" option turned on in your Sandbox settings in the first place. Obviously.

[maiden elk]

Well, crapbaskets.

0 Perception

[hollow shadow]

My goal was to make it so the weapon is forced to do multihit regardless of the sandbox option

[willow estuary]

Without digging through the Java, as the multihit parameters are the same in the weapon scripts regardless of whether or not the sandbox option is enabled, I'd say that it's likely multihit is something that only exists when the sandbox option is enabled.

[hollow shadow]

;-;

well at least certain weapons do multihit now if its enabled

[maiden elk]

Wait, would something like:
SWeapons.OnInitWorld = function() SandboxVars.MultiHitZombies = true; end Work?

Or can you only apply sandbox variables to only sandbox games?

[willow estuary]

I wouldn't recommend forcing multihit on for people that don't want it in their games.

[hollow shadow]

dont worry ill make it balanced ;vv

[maiden elk]

Then just set every other mutihit value to 1. That's far as my knowledge/recommendation goes.

[hollow shadow]

at the moment only the super heavy weapons have multihit. if you time your hit wrong u get eaten

[willow estuary]

You guys are making this far more complicated than it needs to be 😄

[hollow shadow]

That looks like it enables multihit for all weapons

i mean vanilla weapons too

[willow estuary]

That's exactly what that would do.

[hollow shadow]

xd

[craggy furnace]

lol

id love to tweak multihit to emit a thunderclap

take out an entire street of zombies in a swing

[digital trellis]

How to have PZ modding tool on steam?

[maiden elk]

@hollow shadow I've just searched the game files and I can't find the function that directly defines SandboxVars.MultiHitZombies, so my guess is it can't be changed or modified to get it applied per weapon. How it is right now, you'd basically have to write a function that checks if SandboxVars.MultiHitZombies is already true. If yes, then it should just modify multihit on your own weapons. If false, then it should set MultiHitZombies to true and set every vanilla weapon to multihit 1, so only your weapons can multihit.

[hollow shadow]

Yeah good thing i know how to code 😄 (ironic)

[hollow shadow]

Micromaul:setMaxHitCount(20) ima try this with multihit setting on

[craggy furnace]

hehehehe

[maiden elk]

Same. 😂

[craggy furnace]

lmfao

[tame mulch]

what a hell! Perfectly balanced weapon)

[echo leaf]

There's a mod which stops the character from turning and moving to a container if it's already in range when attempting to loot it... but I cant recall what it's named. Does anyone know what I'm on about?

Edit: Found it https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1907803085 but it seems to not do what I thought it'd do 😄

[worldly olive]

10/10 would use

[zinc pilot]

hey guys, I've been trying to implement more zooming options but I'm kinda lost. Is it hardcoded or can it actually be changed?

[craggy furnace]

looking into your issue now

[sour island]

Anyone know any regex documentation?

[worldly olive]

I think there's a way to switch from , to . in the decimals in windows 10, that could be also a solution without touching the code, let me find

well, switching the , to . didn't work, but at least the OS Language workaround works 😄

[craggy furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-this-gives-me-pain-painful-lego-smile-gif-16159475

[sour island]

How did you try to replace it?

[sour island]

ah, the problem is decimal numbers in lua are strings

---@param ShmectorTree Vector3
---@return float y of ShmectorTree
function Vector3GetY(ShmectorTree)
    local tostring = tostring(ShmectorTree)
    local coordinate = string.match(tostring, "%, Y%: (.-)%) %(")
    coordinate = string.gsub(coordinate, ",",".")
    print("EHE: Vector3-GetY-Workaround:  "..tostring.."  =  "..coordinate)
    return coordinate
end

this should fix the issue

Also, a French player had the same issue - and it turns out they sometimes use commas (???)

so 🤞

[worldly olive]

"Sometimes", how they use it sometimes 😂 but yeah hope it fixes for every languages!

[sour island]

How would you write 2,500.50 in Spanish?

Not that it matters in this case, just curious

[worldly olive]

2.500,50

[sour island]

So, I think in french they write 2,5 for 2 and a half, but then also use 2,500.50

[worldly olive]

Omg 😂

No no, we keep it as:

2,5 for 2 and a half
2.500,50 for 2500 and 0,5

[sour island]

In any case, thank you for helping chase this bug down.

Hopefully this fix works across the board.

[worldly olive]

Are you going to upload it to steam now? in order to test it and tell you how it goes

[sour island]

Should be uploaded soon.

[worldly olive]

Awesome!

[craggy furnace]

@worldly olive fix pushed, try it out now

[worldly olive]

Omw

[craggy furnace]

@indigo holly check out the new patch

should solve your errors

[worldly olive]

Good news guys

Works for OS in spanish!

In case you need it to check something but 0 lua errors, the helicopter was triggered, the voices were heard and I saw zombies moving

[sour island]

Nice

TY so much for your thoroughness

[craggy furnace]

for real

[worldly olive]

If somebody ask how painful create mods can be, tell this story

Thank you guys for all the support 😄

[craggy furnace]

👌

[errant meteor]

Do you modders think the new Java update they are going to push will help you guys out?

[indigo holly]

nice bro! It works perfect! thanks for the work

[craggy furnace]

any time

the LWJGL3 update?

yeah if we can touch all of it

otherwise?

not a ton

[errant meteor]

Why can’t the PZ devs give a bunch of tools to modders like Dayz standalone did, have you seen the shit people are making lol.

[hexed anchor]

they'll do it once they work enough on the game

[sour island]

Kind of curious if they're using the same mapping tools that are available

Or if they use the same vehicle rigging tools as well

[craggy furnace]

they are

[sour island]

Cause there's some glaring issues

[craggy furnace]

if the PZ devs actually invested in their own tools and seemingly valued their own time more

the game probably would be a lot farther in some areas sooner

i dont say that to be mean either

having quality tools is pivotal in workflow and time preservation

[sour island]

I remember they teased a map tool that worked off zones and used prefabs to fill areas- it looked really neat.

😦

[craggy furnace]

if everyone had a map editor that could also dynamically assign zombie groups and also on the fly create buildings we'd be better off

We’re pushing toward a release of Louisville, which nears completion outside some zoning work and bug-fixing.

heh

shit sucks

build an entire city from scratch spending 1000s of man hours and then have to zone it all

[sour island]

damn, looks like the vehicle tool is private too

if UI3DScene is it

[craggy furnace]

annoying

[sour island]

some of it is public, I wonder if it number inputs could be added

[craggy furnace]

i wonder how much of the map editor could get edited

iirc it was made on open source software

[sour island]

is that even in game?

[craggy furnace]

no, but super important

having a way to stretch around a radius and assign zombies and cars would be fantastic and time saving

instead of going building to building and parking lot to parking lot

[sour island]

hm

that is a dilemma

do you assign buildings zombie distro or do you parse it to the map itself

[craggy furnace]

its been awhile

[sour island]

you can also have parkinglots and areas near by pull from the building's too

[craggy furnace]

last mapped around build 39

basically when cars were first here

[sour island]

I was speaking more to a hypothetical design question

[craggy furnace]

oh

[sour island]

Idk if setting areas and zones would be the way to go

but assigning buildings one at a time sounds like a nightmare too

[craggy furnace]

pain in the asshole

[sour island]

could also have some sort of special case override apparoach

[craggy furnace]

the mappers seem to have it down

[sour island]

@late hound zombie spawn distro are batches of coords and building types right?

[craggy furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-giggle-funny-happy-gif-4407983

[sour island]

@drifting ore , saw you in pzchat, I assume you know?

[drifting ore]

what?

[sour island]

"zombie spawn distro are batches of coords and building types right?"

I assumed setting up a map would involve flagging buildings and lots?

[drifting ore]

zombie spawns according to a map

and zzombie types are determined by zoning

zombies will also appear inside buildings

[sour island]

So most of it is done by building/room types?

[late hound]

Yeah so any zombie that spawns within that special zone will fall under its system. Any zombie spawning in "Doctor" could be a doctor zombie.

it doesn't have to be a building, it can do stretches of land too

[drifting ore]

@sour island zombie density is done through the zombie map, zombie type depends on zoning

yes

[craggy furnace]

[late hound]

but it can do specific rooms and individual buildings, though a zombie needs to be able to spawn there (zombie intensity map shows this)

[drifting ore]

yes, mapname_spawn

[sour island]

Thank you for humoring me

I just remembered- is there a way to grab the loaded map's dimensions?

[late hound]

what do you mean grab?

[sour island]

Like via lua, be able to get the map's general size

min x/y, max x/y

[drifting ore]

which map?

[sour island]

I would need to get this dynamically

[late hound]

well I know that you can use individual coordinates in lua, not sure about referencing it all or dynamically

[sour island]

For context, the heli mod doesn't work on Erie County because I had to set static dimensions

[craggy furnace]

just gonna need to drag it with the player

[sour island]

Couldn't hurt to ask 😦

minmaxing off combined player coords it is then

[swift sequoia]

Grrr. I'm thinking of making a mod where you respawn in a bioprinter pod whenever you die. But to respawn you need to feed it meats.

Is there a tutorial on how to upload mods to steam?

[errant meteor]

@lethal sparrow Fixed the issue with the drinks, and this other mod that adds energy drinks, I deleted my save and did some spring cleaning for my mods, and everything seems to be spawning again.

[swift sequoia]

My mod! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2520648459

Its a mod that adds a UI element to tell when your weapon needs to be reloaded, racked, or unjammed.

[craggy furnace]

very nice!

[ruby urchin]

working in a tutorial about clothing, I'm try make this as detailed as possible as it is not intended for developers, just beginners that wants start in clothing mods

[undone crag]

Ah excellent.

[keen summit]

is it possible to make in game globalmap of map compilation ?( like map of knox county +fort knox+ ravencreek + slocan lake + townk ivy +...)
which tool to use to do this?

[nimble lodge]

This house was built for crawler zombies.

[sand stump]

or cripples

[hollow shadow]

whats the difference

[lethal sparrow]

That's good to hear. Did you ever find out definitively which mod was ailing you, or was it just one of the ones you removed? It'd be helpful to tell that developer that his mod is breaking loot distributions.

[sour island]

impact is on mapobjects I think

like trees and doors

[hollow shadow]

Oh ok

[errant meteor]

I wish lol, too bad we don’t have an easy to use mod status window

[red dirge]

Does it work with Brita?

[hollow shadow]

The question is, does britas work with Felkamis 😛

[red dirge]

[hollow shadow]

did you test on a new world if they work together?

[red dirge]

I’m at work

[hollow shadow]

you should try when ur back on pc

[swift sequoia]

No idea. Theoretically it should unless Brita does something very abnormal with their weapons. Basically it reads the chamber values, ammunition counts, and the jammed flag off weapons.

Overall it should work pretty well. My only concern is that on some systems it may cause lag when a ranged weapon is equipped. It doesn't on my machine but I didn't have any beta testers.

[fallow bridge]

Britas requires Arsenal’s mod. Which adds in a ammo counter and all that, I don’t think the two mods will work together

[hollow shadow]

oh, then why did he want the mods to work together in the first place xD

[swift sequoia]

Its very possible they won't. I did code an ammo counter into mine but disabled it. I figured the game was going for a vertain level of realism and weapons don't come with ammo counter displays.

[fallow bridge]

Also quick tip, you should really add game screenshots to show players what they are downloading

[swift sequoia]

Oh, I thought the existing image would explain it. It only adds a display ontop of the primary hand slot. A full screenshot wouldn't show anything unusual.

[fallow bridge]

Ah

[red dirge]

It was a just a question….

[swift sequoia]

I've never used Arsenal's mod. I think the biggest conflict could be if the two displays overlap.

[hollow shadow]

Made new sounds for my 2x4 which was in the mod for ages but never got overhauled ☺️

[swift sequoia]

A mod I recently found that I've fallen in love with is the one that lets me sit on furniture.

True Actions. Act 1 - Sitting

I need to figure out how to use tags.

[drifting narwhal]

should i use the project zomboid map tools on steam or the forums

[sharp moat]

anyone knows some really good realism mods

[sudden maple]

hi i have a question. I want to make a mod, but it needs the cars to change visually, that is, to be able to put a different hood and stuff like that. is it possible?

[tame mulch]

Only by swap model on another

[sudden maple]

then another question is whether the state of the car, the level of gasoline, etc. will be preserved.

[tame mulch]

in vehicle parts

[sudden maple]

Yes

[tame mulch]

Need check Vehicle part to check params of it

[sudden maple]

I think we did not understand each other. If I change the model, and the condition of the chair is 40%, will they remain the same?

[tame mulch]

Hmmm. I dont remember how i did it in Boats mod. You can check this mod for check how it implemented

[sudden maple]

after all, only the texture changes, the car itself remains

?

[tame mulch]

You want change only texture or model too?

[sudden maple]

Model too

Im noob in mods, so i need to know, did it have any sense to try

[tame mulch]

After change model you will need set same conditiions of parts and containers in new model

[sudden maple]

Okay, i understand

Thanks

[sudden maple]

One more question, whether off-road permeability depends on the car, or they drive the same?

[tame mulch]

maybe in scripts

[sudden maple]

Thx

[austere scarab]

Is it possible to add in a modded items that have randomized icons/decals just like Chips do?

Or You have to make a different item for each decal

[swift sequoia]

So I was just talking with a friend about a mod idea I had but won't be following up on (it involves animation, and I don't feel like faffing with that). Shotgun gloves: A pair of gloves that, when you punch something it triggers a shotgun blast. Three shells on each hand, maximum blood setting with that huge killspray ranged weapons have.

Oooh oooh. Think the knife animation would work?

[austere scarab]

Dude the year the game takes place is 1993 did those exist in Kentucky?

Is it allowed to look through Hydrocraft and View and perhaps use some of entitites as it was a part of an old mod?

Like let's Say the Donuts and new food items

Since littering adds a few items from Hydrocraft and the Energy Drink mod adds the Energy drinks from hydrocraft

[craggy furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-oh-shit-shocked-shock-spit-gif-15372171

[austere scarab]

Shark is it allowed to b o r r o w stuff?

[craggy furnace]

elaborate

[austere scarab]

Littering adds few more items right? Energy Drinks,Sodas and other stuff i didn't check out because it killed my compability, these also being present in HydroCraft and Energy Drink Mod

would it be allowed to take items from mods and split them out like these did?

i'm thinking of making a food and cooking mod once i learn coding

and i don't know shit about copyright

[craggy furnace]

as a rule of thumb

dont grab other modders content without asking explicitly

[austere scarab]

i wanna check about the food from hydrocraft but hydrocraft it's a mix of abandoned mods and i got no idea who made what

[craggy furnace]

oh

to learn about it

[sour island]

there's also not much copyright to be worried about - if you make enough effort to credit authors

[craggy furnace]

indeed

[austere scarab]

i will of course credit the authors

[craggy furnace]

if you just grab their stuff and bring it off as your own

you are liable to DMCA

[austere scarab]

i'm not Below Natural that made thousands of an old game because he had a school project to do

[craggy furnace]

depending on if you basically just grabbed enough of it

[austere scarab]

what's DMCA standing for?

[craggy furnace]

digital millennium copyright act

[sour island]

Basically if they make enough of a stink, they could get steam to remove it from listing

but no one would honestly bother if it's not done out of malice

not to mention if the original mods are abandoned

[craggy furnace]

yep

hydrocraft will eventually go the way of the dodo

sooner or later

the mod is too big to update on a regular basis and the new spawn tables maybe just kill it

so after that, you could can probably pick apart parts of HC

id be very forthcoming with that, that

[austere scarab]

now i gotta see how much food items it actually adds and what i can do on my own

[sour island]

Could be maintained if not for steam's weird policy on not allowing contributors to upload files too

[gleaming merlin]

anyone know what mod adds log arm guards as well as rubber ones made from tires?

[sour island]

scrap armor? @hollow shadow

[errant meteor]

Even so, how many of those people do you think would go to the trouble of updating it, I bet a modest chuck on them do not play PZ or something similar

[sour island]

I mean- all it would take is 1 person to keep the project afloat

right now it is dependent on 1 person

to say, update superb survivors, you'd have to just reupload it or go the hyrdocraft route

[errant meteor]

Must be hell maintaining it

How old is hydro craft anyway?

[sour island]

PZ uses github for translating, I'd like to see more modders use it too

[sour island]

Posted
Aug 12, 2015 @ 4:12am
Updated
Aug 16, 2019 @ 6:02pm

that's for b40

[errant meteor]

Bruh moment

[sour island]

Now there's a b41 patch

uploaded by someone else that's already 6 months old

[errant meteor]

I still do not get the appeal for it, some of the stuff in the mod is clearly from a bygone time, some of the new mods coming out pot them to shame, like the shopping cart mod

[sour island]

My point was that steam isn't all that conducive to maintaining mods

[errant meteor]

Ya, there is no system where there are a bunch of people working on it on the same time, without the need for someone else

[austere scarab]

So much shit to pick what the hell

Guess i'll Pick what i like and what i want to be in

And do the rest myself

[craggy furnace]

modding is intellectually demanding and very hard work

[sour island]

Github is good for working together- I'm not sure what to do about getting around the upload aspect

[drifting ore]

npc mod up

oh my goodness gracious

[sour island]

😮 ?

[drifting ore]

oh wait nvm

it is an expansion of suberb

epic fail

[sour island]

ban him

[craggy furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/shea-whigham-walkie-talkie-serious-gif-14112285

[drifting ore]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-crying-walter-dying-gif-20964719

[craggy furnace]

@sour island

[sour island]

noice

[ruby urchin]

https://dislaik.github.io/project_zomboid_modding/scripting_manual/clothing_mod/

I need add more things, like the masks, bodylocations, etc. But I think it looks good

[craggy furnace]

good work