mod_development

[errant meteor]

You could add small numbers around the crates to show serial numbers

[craggy furnace]

yes

i am doing that now

[errant meteor]

Already ahead of me lol

[craggy furnace]

adding a big FEMA sticker

probably two versions

[errant meteor]

Will these only appear in 1 stack high?

I just thought of something cool maybe you can disassemble them and use the crates for base storage, would be very useful

[sour island]

they're not furniture actually

[craggy furnace]

indeed

[errant meteor]

Ah that’s a shame, well we got the drops that’s what important

[errant meteor]

Any pics to show?

[drifting ore]

anylone know of some mods like terror zeds? i wanna add special infected but not the spontaneous combustion zombies that kill you instantly

[errant meteor]

I would ask that in general, someone there can give you an answer way faster

[wet osprey]

oh damn so it does helps, damn I wish fence hopping wouldnt be the main calorie burn
(also sorry for the late reply)

[quasi ginkgo]

Anybody knows mods that significantly decrease FPS?

Or just decrease FPS a lot?

[jovial summit]

SuS

[quasi ginkgo]

Is this an among us joke or its a name of a mod?

[errant meteor]

Lol

[jovial summit]

Superb Survivors

[errant meteor]

Oh ya great choice

[quasi ginkgo]

Choice?

I'm asking this question to disable any mods in particular

I don't use SuS

Lag is just one of the many problems with that mod

[willow estuary]

Keep the meming out of the modding and mapping channels please.

[quasi ginkgo]

Don't do that, you may get muted for 2 weeks

[errant meteor]

Sorry, it’s just what this guy wants is ether trolling or confusing

[quasi ginkgo]

Speaking from experience

I'm not trolling, I'm asking this because my game lags and I'm trying to find out what mods are causing this issue

[errant meteor]

Lol sorry, I thought you said that you wanted to lag out your game lol, it’s late where I live

[fallow bridge]

He did.

He worded it badly

Or better yet explained why he was askin

Anyways

@quasi ginkgo most mods that add custom models to the game tend to (on not the greatest hardware) cause fps loss

[errant meteor]

It has been a roller-coaster this night lol

[oak cipher]

Thank you!

BTW Everyone! Would just like to announce if you haven’t checked it out!

Another commissioned project from my Team EGNH made by @elfin bobcat and his team brings you

THE SIMPLE BUT GAME CHANGING MOD OF SITTING

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2487022075

Hope you guys test and check it out and a rating would be awesome! More mods to come from our group!

[sour island]

I corrected myself in that a lot of timed actions also have high burn rates and they each have their own rate- the longer the action takes the more calories imagine.

Ultimately I think diet has a lot more of an impact and you're going to have to avoid the junk food. #realism

[unique basalt]

FANGIRL SCREAMING

[drifting ore]

yeah i got it last night. changes the game for real

[main lion]

new models and textures for G3 Phantom pack

with Astrocom military and Sordin headset

[errant meteor]

nice

[weary crypt]

Nice looking pack

[wet osprey]

I think you are right, and it does makes sense (was just annoying that almost a thousand zombies killed in the first month yet I was a meatball)

[drifting ore]

how to import project zomboid models to blender?

[errant meteor]

check the pins has a lot of info

[drifting ore]

thx

[errant meteor]

np

[main lion]

last work

Tactical Utility Belt

[errant meteor]

Make sure you do not burn yourself out, take a break.

the belt looks very great BTW

[polar prairie]

@main lion and again, awesome work! :)

[heady ember]

Hello, just uploaded next mod ive been working on recently. The idea is simple, but maybe someone will find it useful as well. Thanks 👍 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2488316681

[late hound]

Does anyone know of another mod that uses a custom mechanics overlay other than the 67commando?

[errant meteor]

Might be wrong, but it might be the other APC mod, that also has it

[quasi ginkgo]

It does

100% does

[slender fog]

Hello, I wanted to present you a mod that I made today, maybe can help you https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2488489996

[errant meteor]

nice

[hollow shadow]

guys what do you think about dis armor

[hollow shadow]

Ferrari mod?

[main lion]

updated!

[low yarrow]

Is there a elegant way of adding new tools to this kind of recipes? Seems like my mod which adds new knifes and has been added to this recipes are overwritten by other mods affecting the same recipes.

[sour island]

you could modify itemTweaker to add onto variables rather than replace them

that would make your mod compatible with other's mods

[grand oriole]

Hy someone knows how to build this fence?

[hollow shadow]

This is what i use to make the recipe accept all hammers in the game and from other mods

[hollow shadow]

you cant i think

[grand oriole]

ohhh:( oke and thanks for the answer:)

[low yarrow]

Thanks, i think thats a direction i should look into

[royal chasm]

ehi guys! I was looking for someone able to add few items in game.
In the meantime I tried to learn by myself, copying another mod.
Inside the folder media\scripts\ I have my file Stalker_item.txt :

module Stalker
{
item Artifact
{
Weight = 0.01,
DisplayCategory = Normal,
DisplayName = Artifact,
icon = Artifact,
}
}

Inside the folder media\textures\ I've placed my Item_Artifact.png

But then, in game, I tried to find my item using Necroforge 2.7, writing Stalker.Artifact
but I can't find anything....sadly

ok nevermind, it worked 👍🏼

[austere scarab]

Would it be possible to change existing traits into needing certain items?

Example: short sighted would need glasses,ashmatics would require asmatic kits to not die from choking

[dull garnet]

Maybe modifying items to alleviate the side effects of those traits

[drifting ore]

Would be easy to modify the traits to be deadly without the item's help

See: More trait's alcohol addiction

[undone crag]

On https://projectzomboid.com/modding/ I only see DoParam for the zombie.scripting.objects.Item class, what do you mean?

[upper junco]

@austere scarab it is possible, the hydrocraft mod for build 40 did this.

[autumn violet]

This is probably an unpopular question, but has anyone ever attempted making or at least thought about making an escape from tarkov inspired mod for PZ? Surely it wouldn't be of much use without a fully functioning multiplayer, but when build 41 MP is released, do you think that some crazed modder will attempt it?

[stable hornet]

sounds possible

but the gunplay might be hard

[desert warren]

Actually, yes! There's this one mod that makes looting through items slower and harder, just like EFT.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2463568911
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2462558471

[autumn violet]

@desert warren That's actually pretty cool, even though its only a small aspect of EFT, but It's cool to see people interested!

[rose notch]

Would it be possible to put in animals or other enemies into the game?

I know there is some mods but I’m not sure how good they are

Failing that I’ll just reuse zombie stuff

[lyric pike]

some people made enemy AI, when bots aren't planned for approximately two more builds

afaik there also was a mod for build 40 with animals and hunting, no idea how good it actually was though

if you specifically want a mod to use, i would suggest superb survivors? they add bandits/raiders and also friendly AI, but i think its fairly customizable

[craggy furnace]

its interesting

the groundwork for them already exists deep in the game

hair, clothes, etc

the old radio stuff has references to bandits and "cannibals"

people really dont "want" enemies

the moment people start getting shot is the moment theyll get mad

[modest junco]

what mod are you currently using for weapons?

if dont use this one you should def use it. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2200148440

dont see brita's. use that. brilliant weapon mod

[prisma halo]

is it safe uninstall brita`s weapon pack mid game?

[modest junco]

haven't tried tbh.

[drifting ore]

dont think it is

pretty sure your mods remain for that game and if your missing one that save wont load

i do know that if you have them installed but have different mods on and then load that save, it will load the specific mods aslong as they are installed

[hollow shadow]

It should. It will delete all of the items that arr in the mod

You can also back up the save

[latent orchid]

Does anyone know the container type for keyrings?

I want to make a car dealership keyboard that can hold keys

[timid wolf]

Looking to replace the player character model. Anyone know any tutorials or examples? I'm already proficient with Blender

[timid wolf]

Looks like the container has a data value of OnlyAcceptCategory to Key, according to https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Key_Ring

[rapid granite]

The question may have already been from someone else.
Does anyone have a blender file with male and female skeletal animations for 41 versions.
I want to add my clothes to the game.

[timid wolf]

Speculation: while looking into my own character model stuff, it seems build 41's models can be imported into common 3D modeling software. The filetypes used are .x and .fbx, which I'm not familiar with. Perhaps the animations are baked into the model?

[rapid granite]

I tried to import the .directx file into blender 2.79. With male and female bodies, it betrayed a mistake, and from clothes it gave out a porridge of bones.

[wet dune]

You use fragmotion

It can import .x files

But can't export fbx

[rapid granite]

Thanks. I hope I can take out the bones.

[nimble spoke]

Use the models converted by @grizzled grove

I suggest Blender 2.91

[late hound]

@wet dune I don't really want to see any advice coming from you until you have released at least one clothing item to the workshop. Try uploading a mod and you may start sounding credible. @rapid granite To clear things up. Fragmotion can be used as a file conversion step to convert the vanilla .X models to .OBJ files, then you can import them into blender as a reference. Then when you are finished with making the model and scaling it to the vanilla model, you export to .obj, and export that from fragmotion into .X. However! I only recommend this for Static models (models without the walk animation).
To make a Skinned model (models with the walk animation), you use Throttlekitty's models as a reference. Since these files are easy-to-work-with .FBX files, we don't need to jump the hoop of file conversion like we did above. You import those player models into any version of blender, size up your model onto that, apply the model to a bone, delete the rest of the bones and the reference player model, then straight export that out as .FBX. This is as much as I can explain without writing up a whole guide for this (which I will do in a week and a half's time).

[errant meteor]

😮

[wet dune]

Sorry I was just saying

There was no need to be rude.

[grizzled grove]

i don't have any clothing mod on the workshop :p

[carmine cosmos]

That's a bit unfair, I haven't uploaded any mods to the workshop either

But I seriously doubt you could call me not credible when it comes to mod development

[raven anvil]

Guys, please help D :, in the b41 I try to put my mods, right ?, but the game always generates an error when loading a new world, I already deactivate the mods of the b40, what can I do?

[carmine cosmos]

What's the error?

[raven anvil]

mmm

wait

there u are

Fun fact, I just tried to make a quick game with the two brita mods (the one for weapons and the one for armor) and the game started without problems, what I did was put it in survival, and I did not choose any skill or profession, and enter with a random character, I don't understand why it works like this

and it's like a crash, the only option he gives me is to go to the desktop, it says that there has been an unexpected error and followed the direction of the game's debug console, I've read it and removed the mods which have no logical relationship with the game's lua and so on, but nope, it keeps generating the same error

and there is a line in the debug console which says the cause of the error, and says the following:
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException

[carmine cosmos]

Does this happen when you have no mods loaded at all?

[sour island]

Try taking this to #old_techsupport - but try the usual first steps of verifying the game cache (in steam).

[raven anvil]

yep, but i installed a java third party loader, and it fix the error

[raven anvil]

it's like verify the files of the game ?

[sour island]

right click the game in steam's library, and go to properties > local files > verify integrity of game files

This re-installs any changed or missing files - outside of steam workshop downloads

[raven anvil]

yep, I did that and reinstalled the game every time I got the error, but it didn't solve anything, I also deleted the zomboid folder in users, nothing, the same

[raven anvil]

I did not know what I was doing specifically, thank you for explaining to me

[sour island]

You should also unsubscribe from any workshop content you recently subscribed to if verifying didn't work.

[raven anvil]

I did that too xD, I don't think it's a problem with steam or mods, at least I would like to believe it, I will unsubscribe from the content of the ws and subscribe again.

[sour island]

try running the game before you resubscribe

[raven anvil]

It's funny you know?, this did not happen in the b40

[sour island]

but you said a third party loader fixed the issue?

[raven anvil]

gotta

[raven anvil]

yes

let me explain

This error also happened when I started the game without any type of mod or anything like that, and then I had to install something called AdoptOpenJDK, which I deduce is third-party java

this third-party java not only solved this error, but also optimized the game a lot

[sour island]

I would take this over to #old_techsupport - it sounds like your java may be out of date

[raven anvil]

HAhaHAhahSasfnjanf, believe me, I wish it was just that, but it's something else, I don't know

super weird

[nimble spoke]

As far as I know pz doesn't rely on java versions your computer is running. At least that's what I understand from dev talk about it. It is worth confirming with them

[carmine cosmos]

The game is bundled with two Java distributions - 32x and 64x version

So no, you do not need to have Java installed to run the game

[carmine cosmos]

How are you launching the game and which OS platform are you running?

If you are launching the game with the bat or sh script in root directory you are then using the bundled Java distribution, that is if that is available otherwise you would get an error

[raven anvil]

I am running it from bat x64 in windows 10, because if I run it from steam the game goes to 8 fps, I need this ApodtOpenJDK so that the game has a decent framerate

also try to copy and paste the mods to the root folder of the game and it keeps crashing in the same way

[worldly olive]

Hi guys!
Does somebody knows if there's an event that's triggered when eating something?

[carmine cosmos]

You should be able to set the event method yourself

Take a look at Food#setOnEat method

[agile swallow]

Can anyone tell me why when I import my .obj into fragmotion it looks all broken?

[craggy furnace]

what are you attempting to achieve?

[agile swallow]

Well I'm trying to make this into a .x, when I do export it as a .x and try to use it for my mod it just doesn't show up in game.

[craggy furnace]

use legacy versions of blender to export

[agile swallow]

This is what it looks like in blender

[craggy furnace]

plus, PZ supports FBX

this is all possible in 2.91

[agile swallow]

What do I use to export to .x in blender 2.91?

OR do I have to revert to an older version

[craggy furnace]

wait

you are adamant about fragmotion

are you attempting to animate?

[agile swallow]

No it's just that someone told me to export my model as an obj and import it to fragmotion and then export it to .x with that.

[sour island]

someone else said not to listen to them and to use fragmotion if you're animating

#mod_development message

[craggy furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/look-smile-smirk-breezy-moves-ornery-gif-3520545

[agile swallow]

I don't really think I need to animate anything.

[craggy furnace]

use blender instead

direct export to the game

when modding, minimalize any level of convolution

[agile swallow]

So use .fbx right?

[craggy furnace]

the game is moving there iirc

yep

.X is deprecating since microsoft doesnt care anymore

[agile swallow]

This is my first time ever 3d modelling something so I'm pretty new to all of this. I'd never even heard of .x prior to trying to make this mod.

[craggy furnace]

its fine

we are here for questions

[agile swallow]

I appreciate it

[craggy furnace]

👌

and to clear up the fragmotion thing

peach is correct

it can be used for that

[agile swallow]

Sorry, who's Peach?

[craggy furnace]

authenticpeach

[agile swallow]

Oh I see that's who told me about fragmotion originally.

So where should I put my new weapons model exactly? Do I replicate the file structure for where other firearms are?

something like this? \media\models_x\weapons\firearm

[craggy furnace]

that sounds right

only have ever done melee weapons

[agile swallow]

for some reason it's not showing up in game, my hands are just empty when I equip and aim it.

I'm pretty sure I properly scaled it I exported the handgun model into blender and scaled it accordingly.

[sour island]

you scripted the model right?

[agile swallow]

Could you elaborate please.

[sour island]

in scripts you have to tell the game what are the models to use as well as where to apply the models

[agile swallow]

I'm pretty sure I've done everything right, should I post it here?

[craggy furnace]

sure

[agile swallow]

uh its over 2k characters guess ill use pastebin

https://pastebin.com/TZaqVT5r

[sour island]

that appears to be the item script

[sour island]

check out models_items inside of media/scripts for an example of scripting models into the game

[craggy furnace]

line them up like these

the second links the model

the first links the second script

basically

it needs the model loading script to tell the item script what its loading

[agile swallow]

I think I understand

[sour island]

This generally applies to any asset, the game doesn't just grab anything in the media directory and subfolders - most of whats in those folders are copies of what the game has stored - those are just copies.

[agile swallow]

so I make a new models_items.txt inside my mods scripts folder first correct?

[sour island]

I don't think the name has to be the same

[craggy furnace]

no

only the interior

[sour island]

I have seen it not work putting two module script blocks within the same file though- I haven't confirmed that though.

[agile swallow]

module Base
{

model maxim
{
mesh = weapons/firearm/maxim,
}

Should it look like this?

thats the models filename

[sour island]

yes

[agile swallow]

so should i rename the .txt to something else?

[sour island]

you can if you want- I don't think it matters

[agile swallow]

ill just try it as is.

hmm seems my game keeps crashing now.

Now my game keeps crashing and the log says this [17-05-21 20:34:54.616] ERROR: General , 1621298094616> GameWindow.uncaughtException> Unhandled java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown by thread MainThread..
[17-05-21 20:34:54.618] ERROR: General , 1621298094618> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space at Arrays.copyOf line:3181. Message: Unhandled java.lang.OutOfMemoryError thrown by thread MainThread..
[17-05-21 20:34:54.618] ERROR: General , 1621298094618> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[17-05-21 20:34:54.619] LOG : General , 1621298094619> GameThread exited..

[sour island]

make sure you have all your {}'s

[agile swallow]

oh damn, I think your right.

it looked like this.

It should look like this right?

[sour island]

yes

all brackets need a closure

[agile swallow]

whoops lol

[sour island]

happens

[agile swallow]

yep, boots up instantly now haha

Ah the model shows up on the ground now just still not in the hands hmm.

[sour island]

I would look at how the other guns are scripted

there's scripts for onground models as well as in hand stuff

[ruby urchin]

Assault Vest with Buttpack Attached

[agile swallow]

Nice dude

@craggy furnace Would you happen to know what I need to do at this point?

Hmm it appears I was incorrect and I did not scale my model properly haha

Or, idk I mean it looks normal when it's on the ground thats weird.

[craggy furnace]

It’s the object orientation

[agile swallow]

How do I fix it?

Also how come it looks fine on the ground?

[craggy furnace]

import an object from zomboid thats similar in size

put the model next to it an orient and size it

save the size

done

[agile swallow]

Weird, I thought I did that already. I imported the handgun_03 model into fragmotion, exported it as an fbx and put it into blender then scaled my model too it.

yeah see.

sorry exported an obj

[craggy furnace]

lol its fine

fbx importation still is new to me

[agile swallow]

So do you know why it would be so weird in game if i have done what you said?

[grizzled grove]

ctrl-a to apply the transforms (or make them "real" in other words)

[craggy furnace]

what throttle said

[agile swallow]

but i didnt change anything.

thats what it looks like directly after I imported the handgun_03 obj from fragmotion

[grizzled grove]

sorry, only scanned chat real quick. you're sure the transforms are zeroed out?

[agile swallow]

I have no idea what that means haha.

I'm very new to 3d modelling this is the first thing I've ever modeled on my own.

[grizzled grove]

gotcha, one sec

hit 'n' to show the transform panel, location/rotation should be all zero, and scale should all be 1. Ctrl-A to apply transforms if they aren't

[agile swallow]

It looks to scale when its on the ground

this menu?

[grizzled grove]

ah, gotta be in object mode first

[agile swallow]

That's what it looks like didn't need to change anything

[grizzled grove]

ok cool, next thing to try is setting the scale to either 0.1 or 0.01 in the export settings i think.

[agile swallow]

over here?

oh should I tick that apply transform box?

[grizzled grove]

nah

[agile swallow]

well its not as big ill try 0.01 now

[grizzled grove]

i don't use blender often, sorry if i don't remember some specifics 🙂

[agile swallow]

Oh please don't worry you all have been extremely friendly dealing with my noobiness.

Epic, it's size is normal now it just seems that it's backwards haha.

[grizzled grove]

woop woop

er, nom nom, i mean

[agile swallow]

which way should I rotate it do you think.

wait i think i might have figured it out

well there we go, I got it oriented properly.

Thank you very much @grizzled grove @craggy furnace @sour island I finally got this working 🙂

[grizzled grove]

grats 🙂

[craggy furnace]

no problem man

thrilled you got it working

welcome to modding

[agile swallow]

Now all I gotta do is work on balancing the distributions for an integrally suppresed 9mm handgun haha.

[errant meteor]

This looks interesting, is it based on a real gun?

[agile swallow]

Yep, the Maxim 9 made by silencerco I believe. It's integrally suppresed.

I just love the look of them

It's intended to be a highly sought after weapon as it's integrally suppresed (I achieved this effect by lowering the sound range, I believe I set it to about 10.) I tried to make it realistic, you won't be able to clear a building of zombies and not have any on the surrounding floors/rooms notice, but you may not attract zombies that are roaming the streets.

[errant meteor]

kek

[drifting ore]

mw3 gun

[mortal widget]

if blender were a person i would give them the most SLOPPIEST of the TOPPIES

[agile swallow]

I've released my mod for anyone who may be interested https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2490549401

[drifting ore]

About how many vertices should I be aiming for on a weapon model?

[carmine cosmos]

Always aim as low as possible without sacrificing fidelity

[fallow bridge]

Oh shit the new cyberpunk esque gun

[drifting ore]

Ballpark range for something like a warhammer?

[carmine cosmos]

People will give you different numbers depending on their style

I've once seen a simple barrel with 20k triangles made by a really popular modder in Cities Skylines

If you ask him he would say a minimum of 10k triangles for a cube 😄

[low yarrow]

I usually aim for below 100 vertices

But its because i feel pleasure by going as lp as possible 😄

300-500 vertices should be fine still.

But overall i think. The less geometric details, the better it looks ingame.
I have noticed that if you have a high poly object ingame it kind of "flickers"

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/low-poly-hand-hatchet-a-project-zomboid-mod-02ad33489eb94520939de0a7bed84cb6

[hollow shadow]

For some reason the unlock sound keeps looping, and i dont know which mod is doing it

I also dont feel like disableing my mods list 1 by 1 to find the mod thats doing it. is there any way to find out which mod is doing it

[carmine cosmos]

Use a JVM debugger

[hollow shadow]

whats that

[carmine cosmos]

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/debugging-code.html#a89090cb

[hollow shadow]

is it friendly to people that dont know much about coding?

[carmine cosmos]

That's a relative question, since it depends on how much you know about software development

[hollow shadow]

nothing

[carmine cosmos]

This is standard procedure for debugging anything Java related

It's either that or disabling your mods one by one

[carmine cosmos]

In that case forget about what I said, just disable the mods 😅

[hollow shadow]

;-,

[carmine cosmos]

You can do the 50/50 method

Disable first half of your mods and see if it still happening

[twilit drift]

how would one make a clothing mod (which the clothing is based off of already ingame pieces) and add it to loot pools?

[twilit drift]

nice

[wet osprey]

is there a mod that reduces the zombie vision at night?

[low yarrow]

Isnt that a thing by default?

I always feel so sneaky at night

[wet osprey]

dont know if its a thing, but I think zombies at night should have very low vision, (so you could just sneak through them as long as you are quiet)

[twilit drift]

what are GUID's when it comes to items

[indigo hound]

Красаучыг!)

[subtle ocean]

Anybody here play with Hydrocraft?

[jovial summit]

yeah

[subtle ocean]

I need a hand with building basic wooden walls

IDK where to find the recipe for them or if it's even available

[late hound]

GUID's are reference identifiers that the game uses to call upon for a particular clothing item.

[carmine cosmos]

Not from what I can see by looking at the code

Only light level of the tile dictates whether you will be seen or not

[twilit drift]

okay

thank you

[agile swallow]

I just released a handgun on the workshop, here's the statistics for my model if you are interested. It's not very detailed.

[drifting ore]

Thanks, just what I was looking for

[subtle ocean]

Does anybody here know good resources for hydrocraft?

I.e. a guide to using it, etc?

[sour island]

There's a website for it

http://undeniable.info/pz/wiki/itemlist.php?kind=Classic

[subtle ocean]

I've found that

I need help using the items, not identifying them

[sour island]

using them?

[subtle ocean]

I want to build a shack, idk how to do that

It's probably blindingly obvious but here I am

[sour island]

is it not done through the build menu?

[subtle ocean]

There's no build menu that I can see, friend

Unless I'm just dim?

[sour island]

right clicking the ground - maybe with a hammer equipped?

[subtle ocean]

Nope

No carpentry or building option

[sour island]

no clue, I avoid that mod so I can't speak to how it's designed

[subtle ocean]

this is proving most daunting

time to dredge the entire hydrocraft items list until I find what I'm after

[nimble spoke]

unless hydrocraft intentionallly disables the carpentry menu for some reason, having a hammer with you should show that as an option when you right click the ground

[subtle ocean]

but it doesn't

[nimble spoke]

what kind of hammer are you using? I tihnk the game only considers the standard vanilla hammer

[subtle ocean]

That's the only one I have

For some reason I have an Advanced Building menu I can access, but not the basic one

the advanced one only shows things like brick walls and glass roofs

[sour island]

is advanced building menu separate from hydrocraft?

if the advanced menu cancels out the basic it may be hardcoded

[twilit drift]

my clothing spawns in loot distribution, but it doesn't show on the character when worn

any ideas?

[sour island]

you mean visually?

[twilit drift]

yes

[sour island]

did you script both the models as well as items?

[twilit drift]

i think i did

[sour island]

When scripting you write everything within module Base {} or another module name and import from base

the item is under an item block, but you also need to include a model block

to tell the game what mesh and texture to use

Someone should really write a visual API or something

[twilit drift]

so where do i put that model block in? because it's in the xml files for the clothes

[late hound]

Invisible clothing is a common error in this process. This happens when you don't add an addition to your copy of the GUID table.

[twilit drift]

where is said GUID table, and how do i apply it in

[late hound]

\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media

[twilit drift]

where in there, is it exactly

[late hound]

its in that folder, not in any subfolder

[twilit drift]

what's the file called?

[late hound]

fileGuidTable.xml

[twilit drift]

ah

thank you

so i should put that into the mod data folder too, and edit it to include said clothing

[late hound]

You add an addition to it at the end or something like

    <files>
        <path>media/clothing/clothingItems/Zed_Skin.xml</path>
        <guid>ff6a89d6-0609-43e6-98e9-e271ed15fa19</guid>
    </files>

    <!-- Authentic Z Custom Clothing -->
    <files>
        <path>media/clothing/clothingItems/Tshirt_Rochelle.xml</path>
        <guid>00f5f41c-8075-44cb-adb3-c85fcb7315b4</guid>
    </files>    

no leave the file as is

[twilit drift]

okay

[late hound]

this is my file directory on my mod

[twilit drift]

okay

[agile swallow]

NP 🙂

[twilit drift]

hmm

they're still not showing

odd

[nimble spoke]

you don't need the entire lvanilla list, your version of FileGuisTable.xml can have just your addition, unless you plan to use the vanilla items in your own zombie outfits

[twilit drift]

ah okay

[drifting ore]

There's also a discord

[slow granite]

Wyrdean#7746 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[drifting ore]

🤔

Well, alrightly

[twilit drift]

okay, so my clothing item isn't showing, however it spawns in

this is my mod folder, is there anything missing?

[late hound]

So the txt script is working, as the item exists in your inventory+as a sprite. That leaves it to the .XMLs. We are not getting a texture error, rather that its invisible. I suggest looking at the .XMLs, in particular if the new GUIDs match and if they are referencing the files correctly. Also note that pretty much everything except the texture reference in the .XMLs are case-sensitive, so look out for that.

[twilit drift]

so the xmls in the clothing folder and comparing it to the ones in the guid's, yes?

[late hound]

yeah compare the clothingitem.xml to the GUID table reference and also if the .txt script links to the clothingitem.xml correctly

[twilit drift]

okay so the guid's are the same, do i name the .txt script links to the clothingitem.xml file name or the name given inside of those

[late hound]

So for example, I have the item name and the clothingItem name as the same, but the clothingitem name (line 3), has to be the same name as the clothingitem.xml. Therefore I have a "Hat_Gibus.xml". That's all I mean for this part.

[ruby urchin]

same GUIDs? I don't think it's the purpose for which they exist, generate your own here https://www.guidgenerator.com/online-guid-generator.aspx

[twilit drift]

so those are the same, i'll try generating the guids

[late hound]

This is all granted that you have created your own and are using them here.

[agile swallow]

Man modding in clothing sounds so much more difficult than a weapon. I don't even know what a GUID is lol.

[twilit drift]

to be fair i just edited existing guid's by like

6 letters

[late hound]

don't be intimidated by it, its just a string of seemingly random characters that is used as an ID for something

[agile swallow]

I see.

[twilit drift]

ok i'll boot it up now and see if it works

[agile swallow]

How come weapons dont need guid's?

[late hound]

The player does not wear it. They are not clothingitems. The attachment system is separate from this.

[twilit drift]

the same issue persists

hold on

[agile swallow]

Hmm

[twilit drift]

am i missing any file?

[late hound]

• the fileGUIDTable, but you showed that previously. That is all in terms of files.

[twilit drift]

am i missing any needed file in all of those

[late hound]

why did you copy all of those skinned models over, are you using them?

[twilit drift]

yes

i'm just attempting to make a retexture of the normal army fatigues

as a new item

[errant meteor]

nice camo very kek

[late hound]

but what does that have to do with the Skinned Beards and Hair model folders?

[twilit drift]

i just pulled the entire thing over

[late hound]

(I know not the root issue)

[twilit drift]

should i delete those?

[late hound]

Yeah you don't need those, nor the body models

[twilit drift]

okay

those are deleted

what else could possibly be the issue

[late hound]

you can zip me your mod folder and dm it

[twilit drift]

as in: the mod, yes?

[late hound]

yes

[twilit drift]

ok

[late hound]

ok issue 1 is that you forgot a "<" to end the texture choices section

should be this

[twilit drift]

ok

[prisma halo]

Hi all! does any one know mod to not hide hair under hats (dont turn hair to ponytale while wearing hats or headgear). I definitely saw this mod in steam workshop but now cannot find. Sorry for my bad english.

[twilit drift]

it should be this one @prisma halo https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2447729538

[prisma halo]

Thanks a lot.

[twilit drift]

no problem

[late hound]

add ".xml" to your entries

for example

[twilit drift]

ah

[late hound]

that is most likely it

[twilit drift]

i didn't know you needed to do that

thank you

[late hound]

try it out and send a screenshot

[twilit drift]

i will, thanks

the pants work, oddly enough

the jacket doesn't

i did both of the corrections you pointed out

[late hound]

don't need that "/" on second to last line, before closing <textureChoices> statement

[twilit drift]

ah, okay

that might be it

i'll try it again

that's not it

[late hound]

You are fully restarting the game when doing these tests right?

[twilit drift]

yes

[craggy furnace]

hmmm

i really need to just release my BDU upgrades

i was going to do tiger stripe too

[twilit drift]

bdu upgrades?

clarify

[twilit drift]

oh that shit

i remember that now

[craggy furnace]

its been on the shelf forever

[twilit drift]

yeah

last time i heard of that bdu mod was

two months ago

[craggy furnace]

helicopters took priority

[twilit drift]

i found the issue

a missing slash at the end of that texturechoices

@late hound thank you for your help man

[late hound]

hah!

[twilit drift]

i really appreciate the help for my first mod

[late hound]

alrighty

[twilit drift]

thank you alot

[late hound]

do test out your distros before you release this, I thought I saw a few things that were incorrect

[twilit drift]

okay

thank you alot

[late hound]

no problem, glad to have helped!

[twilit drift]

yeah thank you man

[errant meteor]

I need this now lol, sleeves up gang

[craggy furnace]

that guy was a legit child molester

sixta

[errant meteor]

yup

You never know these days

[craggy furnace]

mooustache

more like mooolester

[errant meteor]

lol

You even have the pants bloused, yes

very sexy

Base game PZ looks ugly

Any plans to work on it?

[craggy furnace]

working on it now

[errant meteor]

Nice, now I can look like an actual marine, sexy boots and sleeves up.

[calm portal]

Anyone working on replacing the vanilla military vests with textured plate carriers?

[hollow shadow]

I think paw paw low loot might have that

[calm portal]

I think so as well. I was just wondering if anyone was working on retexturing the vanilla ones.

[hollow shadow]

Well they would need a remodel to look good, im not sure if thats possible. I know that retexture is possible tho

Do mods always overwrite basegame?

[late hound]

Some do intentionally with ItemTweaker API mod (The proper way), other do by verbatim overwrite, which isn't the proper way to do it.

Or another good way (the workaround) is to create a new item altogether and have it work the same way as you want it. That way you have full control over what you are doing and not worry about overwrites or conflicts. Question is very general, it depends on what you want.

[rapid granite]

@late hound It worked out to bind to the body and bones, everything moves as it should.
Now the problem with exporting to the game. I have tried different ways to export to .X format, but the model is not displayed. (with registration in the registry everything is ok, the problem is with the model)

[late hound]

what are you making?

[rapid granite]

Jacket model

[late hound]

ok, make sure you apply it to the respective bones and delete the bones you are not using, then export to .FBX

Also don't forget to apply the weight maps to it before you export to fbx.

[rapid granite]

is that how it should be?

[late hound]

Maybe? I have not made a skinned model jacket or torso model before.

[rapid granite]

when saving to .FBX do you need to select some parameters?

[late hound]

I use the newest version of Blender. I also have been modeling my models on ThrottleKitty's FBX reference player models, so I don't have to deal with any scaling issues.

[rapid granite]

I'll save in 2.8 with these parameters.

Still does not see.
Look plise where there is a mistake

[late hound]

another thing you got to do is remove the vertex groups that of the bones that you are not using

[rapid granite]

I'll try it now

[ruby urchin]

assault Vest with Buttpack Attached finished

model reference

[rapid granite]

I cleaned it, but everything is still

maybe because of the format the game does not see the model.

[ruby urchin]

Are you running the debug mode?? In the game

[rapid granite]

no

more precisely I use cheat mod for debugging

[hollow shadow]

Does it have a texture and did you apply object transform?

[rapid granite]

texture is, UV scan too

[ruby urchin]

You should, that tell you if you have a skindata error or just visual bad config

[hollow shadow]

Can i see the script?

And xml

[rapid granite]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<clothingItem>
<m_MaleModel>skinned\clothes\0</m_MaleModel>
<m_FemaleModel>skinned\clothes\0</m_FemaleModel>
<m_GUID>sfdress0-time-dung-0000-000000000002</m_GUID>
<m_Static>false</m_Static>
<m_AllowRandomHue>false</m_AllowRandomHue>
<m_AllowRandomTint>false</m_AllowRandomTint>
<m_AttachBone></m_AttachBone>
<m_Masks>13</m_Masks>
<m_Masks>14</m_Masks>
<m_Masks>3</m_Masks>
<m_Masks>5</m_Masks>
<m_UnderlayMasksFolder>media/textures/Clothes/Jacket/Masks</m_UnderlayMasksFolder>
<textureChoices>clothes\1</textureChoices>
</clothingItem>

model "0"
texture "1"

the problem is in the model

[hollow shadow]

Can you make a screenshot instead?

Script too

I had same error when i made a clothing item. In the end it was a script error

[rapid granite]

i changed my model file to game model and everything worked

[hollow shadow]

Your clothing item name is 0?

[rapid granite]

yes

[hollow shadow]

I also have never seen that kind of fileguid before but ig it works

[hollow shadow]

You shoukd get notepad++ it has dark mode and gives a better overview

[rapid granite]

I'm just doing a test model to see how it works

[hollow shadow]

Can i also see script?

[rapid granite]

the script is working. The problem is in the 3d model!

[hollow shadow]

Can i see it anyways?

I just wanna help

[rapid granite]

media\clothing\clothingItems

in clothing.xml ordered

media\scripts\clothing\clothing_jacket.txt

item 011
{
    Type = Clothing,
    DisplayName = 011,
    ClothingItem = 011,
    BodyLocation = Jacket,
    BloodLocation = Jacket,
    Icon = JacketSuitTux,
    RunSpeedModifier = 0.93,
    CombatSpeedModifier = 0.95,
    ScratchDefense = 20,
    NeckProtectionModifier = 0.5,
    Insulation = 0.40,
    WindResistance = 0.2,
    FabricType = Cotton,
    Weight = 2,
}

in fileGuidTable.xml ordered

[hollow shadow]

Your clothing item name here is 011

In the xml its 0

@rapid granite

I suggest you name everything the same

Models, textures, everything

[rapid granite]

problem in model
but I'll try

nothing has changed

[hollow shadow]

Are you exporting with blender 2.79 directx addon?

[rapid granite]

I was advised to export to .fbx
I export to blender 2.9 in .fbx

[rapid granite]

directx addons, export settings. question with animation.
All original game files for clothing models have animation.
looked through in fragMOTION

[hollow shadow]

Are you trying to make an animated clothing item with a new model?

[rapid granite]

I'm making a jacket.

[hollow shadow]

I dont think anyone ever made a remodeled jacket before.. i dont think its currently possible?

Its possible to retexture existing items or make non animated items

[rough quarry]

Look at that

[late hound]

I believe it is possible.

[rough quarry]

I think I saw a video on it

[hollow shadow]

Might be, but is it worth trying to do without the tools that the devs are using?

[late hound]

It’s the same process of making any other type of skinned model. You just apply a number of different bones for the export.

[hollow shadow]

Has anyone made a mod with that before?

[late hound]

There are quite a few backpack mods out there that use a custom skinned model. I made your jerrycan into a skinned model. I also made a clown nose and a cigarette model into skinned models. I also believe soul filcher and throttle kitty made hazmat-suit based skinned models that changed the shape of the player model back in march. The sky is the limit on this front, I would say.

[rapid granite]

Developers should be asked to throw off the blender file with the walking animation to which all the clothes are tied.
And where the -1 frame is taken in the original pose of the model.

and ask them how they exported to .X format

[late hound]

We don’t need to export to .X format though. You also tie it to the animation of a bone, so it doesn’t matter what the original pose of a certain frame was. Though it would be helpful to know what bones should be assigned per model type.

[late hound]

I’ll help you out with the testing of your model later today after my classes.

[rapid granite]

@late hound
most likely the model and bones that I have are probably out of date.
It is necessary to ask the developer responsible for the models and animations.

[late hound]

If you used throttle kittys reference models, then it’s not out of date

[hollow shadow]

oh, thats why it was all stetchy..

[hollow shadow]

if you make it a static model then it wont stretch.

[rapid granite]

I would like to ask the developer. have to find out from him.
Only where can you find them and ask a question

[errant meteor]

Nice

[grizzled grove]

They use 3ds max, and wrote a proprietary .x exporter. The devs are all hands on deck for multiplayer stuff right now, but I'm told that we should be getting more/better info at some point afterward. They're shifting toward .fbx for 3d anyway (I still can't get fbx animations to work properly, but don't have much else to go on right now for troubleshooting). Right now the best character skeleton is the male/female set that i put together, nothing is out of date in it

[fair frost]

is this correct ?
VehicleZoneDistribution.fire.vehicles["Base.85vicfire"] = {index = -1, spawnChance = 30};

[rapid granite]

@throttlekitty Thanks. then through 3d max is imported into the game.
You still need to somehow open .X files with clothes in a blender.
So far I have only been able to open it in fragmotion, but haven’t found a way to convert it to a blender.

[fresh steppe]

How do I see what's causing errors?

I see like "errors 950"

Can I see a console?

Using some big modpack

[stoic fern]

@fresh steppe go to #old_techsupport

[hollow shadow]

check your local zomboid folder ( the one with the saves ) there should be a console log in ther

[charred perch]

Good evening, I don't know if I'am allowed to just ask questions in here or if I'm in the right channel, but is there an "easy" way to add items to the starter kit, that don't come from the original game, but were added via mods? Do I just add another line containing the name of said items in /lua/server/xpsystem? Or advanced shenannigans if the item isn't in the base game?

[hollow shadow]

i havent messed with that yet but ill send you a mod that adds new starting items, maybe you can find something usefull there:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2227889044&searchtext=starting+gear

[mortal widget]

with how updated the current build for Super survivors is, do you guys think Serious Survivors is still worth the download?

[jovial summit]

no

[agile swallow]

Hey guys, do you think my workshop pages description provides enough information? If not what do you think I should include? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2490549401

[late hound]

Maybe another screenshot or two, wouldn't hurt.

I personally like mods that show off what they have in them

[agile swallow]

hmm, wonder what i should take for screenshots.

[late hound]

one shooting at some zombies, the other a zoomed in pic of the gun holstered on a character or the gun on the floor

@rapid granite I managed to get your model in-game, but as you can see...some things didn't work out. Maybe I assigned too many or too few bones, not sure on what. It would take some more time to figure that out.

[agile swallow]

Good ideas.

[severe ridge]

make the selection of which part is linked to which bone group, transfer weights, might work

[wet osprey]

anyone using the toxic fog mod, what to do if you cant find a mask?

[autumn sierra]

yep

die

thats it

[agile swallow]

Whatcha think? @late hound

[late hound]

Good screenshot!

[wet osprey]

is the death instant?

[agile swallow]

Also this one showing an impact

[late hound]

No, the HP goes down gradually IIRC

[wet osprey]

but I take it since the fog last long it will inevitably kill if you havent find a mask right?

[late hound]

Yes

[wet osprey]

thought there was some makeshift way to make a mask or something, but if its basically secure death then this is a bit too much

[late hound]

There is this : "Maybe there is some way you can fashion a rudimentary respirator? And maybe there is some way to treat yourself when sickened by this pestilent miasma?"

I can look into the recipes for you

ah here we go

[timid wolf]

Makeshift mask...cloth draped over face?

[wet osprey]

yeah reading those lines made me think it was possible

just couldnt find the recipes in game

or like a plastic bottle with some thread or something (like that cloverfield 10 lane movie)

[wet osprey]

wait let me try again then

cause I wrote gas / mask on the recipes and didnt find anything

unless it requires to read a book/magazine to know how to craft them

oh wait, it does

does the fog kills you if you are inside a house?

[late hound]

no

[wet osprey]

oh then is not that bad

I thought it was constant

[carmine cosmos]

One would think the toxic fog would seep into houses as well

Those houses in the 90's were not exactly airlocks

[wet osprey]

yeah, tho I guess that balances it if you didnt find a mask
wonder if Im protected inside a selfbuild house

[carmine cosmos]

Put four walls around yourself without roof and you're protected

[hollow shadow]

being drunk helps

and being indoors

[ruby urchin]

Just remove the playerbase

[mortal widget]

thanks yar

[hollow shadow]

when you go to spiffos every 6 hours

[ruby urchin]

JAJA yeah in blender the clothes looks nice, but in the game... lmao

[errant meteor]

You should add the picture of the french dev in also lol

[craggy furnace]

ah yes

the frenchman

[craggy furnace]

for some reason, this and this alone refuses to save position data and size

very cool PZ modding tools

[rapid granite]

Thank you so much!
2 questions:

1. in what format did you save the model?
2. stupid question. what you really need to delete?, you can throw a screenshot

[ruby urchin]

Naturally, export it in .fbx format and you need remove the base model of player (basically, only what you want show in the game)

[rapid granite]

Clear.

[dull garnet]

@rapid granite Will you release your clothing soon? They look 💯

[rapid granite]

Still not displayed.
you can drop your .fbx file.

[rapid granite]

As soon as I figure out how to insert the model into the game.

[rapid granite]

Your model is visible, but my converted one is not.
I never found an error.

[severe ridge]

Dakka

[raven anvil]

how i can get this model ?

[carmine cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-angry-aim-fire-scream-gif-14962676

[hollow shadow]

you dont 🙂 im making a mod out of it

inspired from the metro gatling gun and now being added to the scrap gun mod

[carmine cosmos]

Are players gonna be able to carry it or is it more like a turret?

[hollow shadow]

How would youe ven make it a turret ;v

If someone provides me the code sure xD

right now they can carry it. this is only the light variant with 3 barrels instead of 5, and a smaller ammo box

[carmine cosmos]

We can collaborate on it if you want, I believe we can make it into a turret without too much problems

[hollow shadow]

that would need animations tho?

[hollow shadow]

i mean sure, i guess we can try

[carmine cosmos]

That would be more difficult to do though 🤔

I would need to look at examples of animated IsoObjects (if there are any of course)

I am confident I can give you a muzzle flash though

[hollow shadow]

@late hound was gonna make a tutorial on animations?

[carmine cosmos]

That was for player animations

We would need IsoObject animations

[hollow shadow]

just give it 32 different sprites for each direction? that would change to where the player is aiming

you are gonna make it like a furniture moveable right?

[carmine cosmos]

Yes that would work 👍

Make it into a regular holdable weapon for now

And make a suggestion in #mod-ideas about the turret

[hollow shadow]

as you can see, the gatling uses a car battery as power source, i guess the stationary variant could have that removed and would have to be connected to a generator / any other modded power source?

[carmine cosmos]

We can work on it later, I am definitely in support of the turret idea

[hollow shadow]

ok

ill finish this one first

[carmine cosmos]

Remember to submit an idea suggestion, otherwise I guarantee I will forget it 🤪

[sour island]

Idk if you're aware but there's an issue with repeated fire

[hollow shadow]

im aware, and i dont care

[sour island]

👍

[hollow shadow]

besides? once the devs overhaul guns it will probably fix itself?

in the best case*

[sour island]

Yeah, just figured if you expected to have a fully automatic gun it's going to be disappointing

[hollow shadow]

its not full auto, its brrrtt

[ruby urchin]

Are you using the debug mode in the game? if you dont get a skinning error or "Failed to load asset" on console, probably you are not config the UV Map, try using a full white texture

[main lion]

Chempak chemical suit

[fading prawn]

@main lion Those looks awesome! Do the Night vision-goggles actually work though?

[main lion]

not yet!

[lyric pike]

looks an awful lot like the XOF from phantom pain

looks rly cool

[final holly]

thanks for making mods brita

[sour island]

Looks rad

Looks dangerous on both ends lol

[hollow shadow]

Thats normal for me

I dont know which sound i should give it

[sour island]

Layer a normal gun noise, add a rattle, and zapping

[hollow shadow]

How would i google that lol

i usaly get my gun sounds from youtube

[sour island]

Oh I use audacity (free) and sound libraries (also free)

[hollow shadow]

you have a good sound library?

[sour island]

Not home atm, but you can just Google free sound libraries

You can have audacity record computer audio too

[hollow shadow]

Oh realy?

[sour island]

Yeah

[hollow shadow]

im cringing so hard becouse i tried to record sound via streamlabs and somehow squish it into audacitya

[sour island]

I made all the sounds in Vanilla Weapons Expanded

[hollow shadow]

huh

Oh that mod

idk why this isnt on front page

[sour island]

It's a mod, I made random items that had models already in the game weapons and overhauled the sound a bit

[echo leaf]

looks rad!

[sour island]

The weapons aren't good so maybe people don't use it lol

I kept it pretty balanced

[hollow shadow]

still fun to occasionaly whack your friend with a random item in splitscren tho

[sour island]

Smashing bottles and mugs is satisfying

If bottles don't break they make a ping sound that makes me happy

Unfortunately item types are very particular and you can't use food or bags

So bottles, kettles, pots, etc have to be empty

[hollow shadow]

when i try to record via audacity i get a -9999 error

[sour island]

Make sure the top right is set to computer audio

Never had an error like that before

[hollow shadow]

the top right'p

not sure where

[sour island]

The bottom section is on my top right, sorry

So the mic needs to be main speaker

[hollow shadow]

the second tab?

[sour island]

Also I guess I need to update my audacity

The gray boxes, right above the ruler/time scale

Primary soundtransmitter

[hollow shadow]

it only lets me select 2 other mics which i no longer have

[sour island]

Hm, what does the drop down all the way to the left say

[hollow shadow]

i can select headsets there and primary sound transmitter

wait no

that was right

[sour island]

Gotta go for a bit, but I would google it- you may have to change settings too

[hollow shadow]

on left i have windows WASAPI and MME and Directsound

[main lion]

last work!

Sam Fisher's NV goggles

[sour island]

select wasapi - select speakers as mic

[hollow shadow]

already figured it out 🙂

[sour island]

👍

[agile swallow]

I like the Karambit from blacklist as well.

[iron moth]

Sam fisher intensifies

[fair frost]

RPD Crown Vic : )

[hexed anchor]

yessssss

this is the closest to a police dash elite I'll get

[fair frost]

https://gyazo.com/23a13a82b9efef91c3640a7375920926

[quasi ginkgo]

prefer the old model

god bless police cars from the 70s-90s

[true snow]

which file to look in for professions?

IWBUMS btw

[errant meteor]

I hope we can make the ammo for that beast

[fresh steppe]

Yo is there and if so where is the armory in the prison?

[craggy furnace]

yes

if you are asking that question then you have already made peace with your death

[fresh steppe]

lol

how do i find it

first time playing this 😄

i mean the map

and .41

lol

[craggy furnace]

https://map.projectzomboid.com/#0.3000301522156999,0.2802676378062898,850.5622499821093

[fresh steppe]

shit lol

[craggy furnace]

you are going to die lol

[fresh steppe]

😢

[craggy furnace]

go get swatpack

best mod to make prison worth it

otherwise dont bother

[wet osprey]

why is there so few mods that add furniture/things to build (even decorative)
is it too complex or is there a mod I can copy to start making custom furniture?

[craggy furnace]

because making it is a complex and involved process

usually, people who make furniture around here do it in blender first

[fresh steppe]

i installed some kind of modpack so i have a tooon of mods, i think thats in this one

[wet osprey]

I dont mean the modeling tho, can get those sprites in 2d no problem, but the issue is placing them in game (requiring planks/nails/etc)

[fresh steppe]

can i break this fence

with an axe?

[upper junco]

Nope need sledgehammer

[craggy furnace]

wait, you mean as in like a recipe?

[fresh steppe]

uggggggh

so i cant get to the armory rip

[craggy furnace]

i have never delved deep into furniture at all

[wet osprey]

oh I mean, putting the visuals aside
being able to make like a desk or table, or fancy object
then place it as furniture

[craggy furnace]

🤔

[wet osprey]

like look

[craggy furnace]

ah yes

[wet osprey]

this is a complex mod, and it does add an item

but how is there no more furniture or decorative items in the workshop

[craggy furnace]

to be honest

[wet osprey]

even plants or flowers, not a single mod

[craggy furnace]

this community has a hard on for guns

[wet osprey]

haha ok thats true

[craggy furnace]

all the attention goes there

[wet osprey]

I mean not a single fancy gun holder

[craggy furnace]

only now does the game have the systems and intellect/talent and general will to make other things now

[fresh steppe]

pretty sure in the modpack i got had a ton of decorative sutff?

[craggy furnace]

i know your pain

[jovial summit]

agreed

[craggy furnace]

i have wanted furniture gun racks for a long time

but to let you onto a little secret

[wet osprey]

which modpack?

[craggy furnace]

its possible all furniture may one day become 3D

[fresh steppe]

What is wrong with this prison map tho? I spawn in a cell with 3 zombies lol

3 seconds in:

[wet osprey]

[fresh steppe]

uhh i'll check in a sec

[craggy furnace]

indeed

there are issues with sprite to 3d layering for characters

[wet osprey]

I mean, considering how much time mp is taking, I assumy my grandchildren will be able to see 3d furniture

[craggy furnace]

mp is almost there lol

waiting on those pesky client zombies

[wet osprey]

I know, every thursday Im like

[fresh steppe]

clientside zombies?

[craggy furnace]

ye

[wet osprey]

the thing is, 3d furniture sounds like something that will happen tbf, tho still a bit weird that in many years not a single person added like, pretty flowers

[craggy furnace]

hydrocraft was the only mod for that

but whilest everyone is in denial

HC will deprecate

[wet osprey]

but hydrocraft looks horrible

I like the idea of tons of content but damn

[craggy furnace]

its too much

last time i read the recipes internally for HC i wanted to throw myself off a cliff

[wet osprey]

finished my base aaaand thats it, nothing I can do to prettyfy it

[craggy furnace]

plus they are going to have to redo ALL loot tables

[late hound]

So the reason why there are so few mods that add additional furniture is its tied into the map making process. Its made with the same tools (TileZed) and you import your sprites into it. You then give it the values that you want attributed to it, then you export it as a .tiles file. Then from there you can add your additional code to it to make it an item and tie in any meaningful uses for your piece of furniture. It's like three mods types into one - map making, item creation, and code based. AND your sprite gotta look nice, so there's the art factor to it.

[fresh steppe]

@craggy furnace all I find is a basketball and some crap in the armory? lol

not even a single gun? 👀

[craggy furnace]

again

youll need mods

the armories are trash in vanilla

[wet osprey]

I have the art factor covered, and wasnt looking for functionality (besides being plant variations), but damn I see your point

[craggy furnace]

its a pain in the ass

you dont simply dip your fingers into PZ modding really

the deeper you go you are basically pulling the guts out

[fresh steppe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2442138468

[wet osprey]

what kind of decorative things does it have?

[late hound]

so yeah, you don't need to add additional code, but you need to learn how to import your sprite into tilezed tiles creation format, then give it the right tile properties. It will then give it a name like Recreation01-06, that is the name you have to refer to when you make it an item in your scripts .txt file. So yeah this whole process is very involved.

[fresh steppe]

could you link this one?

[craggy furnace]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2091564445&searchtext=swat

[wet osprey]

is there any mod that did this so maybe I can copy and start editing from there?

[late hound]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2321449952&searchtext=hobby
I believe this one did it, let me confirm.

[wet osprey]

oh Im currently using that one because it add collectables, but didnt check, let me see

[late hound]

yup it does

[hollow shadow]

Becouse there’s no tutorials that show how to do it

Making a moveable is so tedious.

[wet osprey]

ok I just saw the files and jesus

[late hound]

One should be made, I would be willing to help create one, but I got to start on the clothing and animations tutorials 😄

[hollow shadow]

Make an animation tutorial

[wet osprey]

if anything, one that allows a built base to look override by nature, we can see this with normal buildings that start to get some vegetation on them, but would be nice to have some tree house vibe stuff

like tons of plants and shit over the tiles

[late hound]

that is very possible with enough time, knowledge, and effort

[hollow shadow]

That would be so cool

Imagine being on top of a city block with a garden like that

[errant meteor]

Train mod when?

[wet osprey]

but yeah, however if what shark says (3d furniture) comes to happen (which will very likely happen in some years) I dont think it will happen, hopefully tho, my base is so ugly I need excuses to go looting..

[fresh steppe]

@wet osprey https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=515555911

[hollow shadow]

Probably the same guys that made boats will add dis sooner or later

[fresh steppe]

something like this perhaps?

unless I misunderstood you

[wet osprey]

that was my first option (and I used it some years ago) but its very unbalanced

some planks of wood and you can make metal walls

[fresh steppe]

ahh

[craggy furnace]

ancient chinese secret

[fresh steppe]

cant you configure it?

[hollow shadow]

Does it allow to make garage doors?

[craggy furnace]

no

[wet osprey]

also for some reason I cant make it work with https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1832608432&searchtext=build+menu

[fresh steppe]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1969456967

If you're on .41

[wet osprey]

oh let me check

wait says subscribed, I think this is the one Im using

[echo leaf]

Heya, I need to update the enabled mods list info on that for it to still work properly.

Or read the changenotes one by one, but that's no fun

Okay I updated it.

https://imgur.com/a/ba9XKkY

[soft musk]

Could anybody try to help me shorten the length of timed actions in planetalgol's worse searching? I love the mod, it makes it a lot more immersive but I'd just like to cut the time in half or so.

[echo leaf]

Wouldn't hurt to ask him

[soft musk]

I would but I know all of his workshop pages say otherwise, so I'm a bit cautious to do so lol

[echo leaf]

You asking him to change his mod for you vs you asking for some tips on what parameters might need fiddling with to tune it the way you want could be two different conversations.

[late hound]

you can always change it youself too, it just requires you changing 1 line of code

in this case anyway

[soft musk]

Yeah thats what I thought, I decided to look into it but I couldn't figure out the exact line that does it

[late hound]

DM me the file and I can tell you

[fair frost]

https://gyazo.com/25ecb7843bd62903a4da7e7c0c329196

[rapid granite]

I myself am completely confused.
I export your file to .fbx unchanged, and everything is visible.
I remove the body and leave the jacket, also export to .fbx
the game does not see.

[ruby urchin]

What you get on console? any error?

[ruby urchin]

Yeah, you are getting "Failed to load asset" honestly idk much about moddeling and things like that, but apparently is a error when a vertex not are properly connected with the rest of armature structure, Try remove vertex from model base until only show your model

[ruby urchin]

For example, I did a model about some Elbow Pads, and for not get that error, I added a square with vertex with the armature data

(I know there is surely a method to avoid this, but it is a measure until I know how make it correctly lmao)

[calm portal]

Oooh those are cool

[rapid granite]

Fixed it! I did remove vertex, and it turns out that not all bones had weights on the model.

[fair frost]

https://gyazo.com/5af7a6224c76182e425b8a274784be2c

https://gyazo.com/b94a2e5798fb0c118684b3ced4938c2b

[cursive bramble]

Hi other modders -> small question related to getModData(), i understand its a java array there for integer indexes. Is there though anyway to use string key indexes ? Say like :
self.javaObject:getModData()["pzarchangel"] = {
["items"] = {},
["center_piece"] = nil,
}

if not i am resorting to doing :
self.javaObject:getModData()["pzarchangel"] = {
[0] = {"items" = {}},
[1] = {"center_piece" = nil},
}

--
elaborating. modData is iterated using snippet :
for k=0, t:size() -1 do
local v = known:get(k)
...
end

this will iterate over all integer keys of the lua-java array 't'
but will not iterate over named keys.

[sour island]

ModData isn't a java array- it's a Lua List

Lua Lists with non-numeric indexes can't be numerated.

You can't even use the shorthand # to get length.