mod_development

[high birch]

Hm.. So I need to find and change it, I just find the ISClothingExtraActions, I didnt changed much, can you tell me where I can find this?

[carmine cosmos]

Not without having a complete overview of your code

But if all you did was just change the item definitions then it is most probable that you missed a field since it is complaining about a null table

[high birch]

There is not much, necroforge shouldnt be the problem, and the translation should be ok too :)

https://mystb.in/IssnSpectacularEnd.properties

[carmine cosmos]

Where is this getVisual part?

I am assuming that it is in game code 🤔

Are you calling something like table:getVisual()?

[high birch]

I'm really confused why that happen

No, never, just use necroforge for spawning, and that shouldnt do anything with this?

I just have this code, adding / changing the fannypack, tooltip and itemname

[carmine cosmos]

Are you adding a new item or changing vanilla one?

[high birch]

Adding a new one

I just try to get it work with vanilla settings and change it afterwards, easier to handle

[carmine cosmos]

Can you create a new gist with vanilla item definition, the make one revision with your changes?

https://gist.github.com/

This would be the best way to show the changes

[high birch]

Ehm.. Ok, don't know this site will check it now

[cunning canyon]

Ok I trust you you on that 😂

Glad I asked

I assume it’s an issue with attaching them to the vehicle / overriding their hit box

[hollow shadow]

i got no clue why this script wont work, i also cant find any missing commas

[high birch]

@carmine cosmos here you go

https://gist.github.com/DevidraEX/c49cde7c92dc0f679aeb42f41195a694/revisions

Revision 1: creating the default values
Revision 2: changing to be a new item with translation etc.
Revision 3: change structure to be more clear
Revision 4: dont know if I can change the download foldername, so I added it into the filename

[carmine cosmos]

Indentations are all over the place, really hard to read

[high birch]

I hate it.. In my Editor (Atom) its normaly sigh

[carmine cosmos]

This strikes me as a potential problem:

if NecroList.Items.SMBags_Bumbag_Front then
else
    NecroList.Items.SMBags_Bumbag_Front = {"Bag", nil, nil, "Bum Bag SMB (Front)", "SMBags.Bumbag_Front", "Item_FannyPack", nil, nil, nil};
end

if NecroList.Items.SMBags_Bumbag_Back then
else
    NecroList.Items.SMBags_Bumbag_Back = {"Bag", nil, nil, "Bum Bag SMB (Back)", "SMBags.Bumbag_Back", "Item_FannyPack", nil, nil, nil};
end

Now that you know in what steps you have created your changes my advice would be to try to reproduce the problem by adding one step at a time, that way you can isolate the issue

[high birch]

Thats a nice idea.. Haha, will try that now, first filling my stomach, will reply later

[high birch]

@carmine cosmos Found the problem

If I change item Bag_FannyPackFront to item Bumbag_Front

I think there is something I miss or the gamecode causing it

I can overwrite the existing, spawn it and use it normaly, just adding a new one results in this error

[carmine cosmos]

Is that with or without the necro mod?

[high birch]

Can you tell me how to spawn it without it?

[carmine cosmos]

I am not familiar with that mod, and don't know what you are trying to do

Are you trying to spawn an item in world?

[high birch]

I can remove necro, I just use it to spawn the item to test it

[carmine cosmos]

Well you can spawn an item in debug mode

[high birch]

Ah, I use debug already, whats the command? :)

[carmine cosmos]

It's not a command, you just have to go to the right menu

I would need to boot up the game to tell you exactly, it's muscle memory for me

[analog sandal]

debug menu -> item list

[carmine cosmos]

There is that mosquito looking button on the left side

Probably yes 🤔

It should be a menu where you can select any item in game (custom or vanilla)

And then you can add quantities to player inventory

You can also add an item to inventory from Lua if you want

[high birch]

Same problem without Necro

Will change it back to overwriting only, if thats work there is something strange going on

It take evertime so long to load LUA again.. (is there a button? :D )

[carmine cosmos]

To reload lua files?

[high birch]

Yeah

[carmine cosmos]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340608427

[mint sphinx]

is there a smart why to make step actionsqueue ?

[high birch]

@carmine cosmos The problem is the module

I tried overwriting, so module base import base and overwriting, this works completly

changed the item to Bumbag_Front again, still work, also equiping!

but after setting the module to ModName, it dont work anymore

I think I need to use base module, but this will break other mods, if they dont import base, or? D:

[wicked crane]

Cuz my question got buried: Does anyone know what aspect of vehicles changed in the past few updates that broke some vehicle mods making them invisible with only wheels? I'm trying to fix some mods but I don't know what changed. I've been looking through text files and I thought I came close to fixing it, but no luck.

[high birch]

Cant tell you exactly, but best would be, check what the mods are using and check the default version, and see if there is something wrong

I'm new to PZ modding, learning right now :)

[analog sandal]

could be the unification of rust/blood textures

[mint sphinx]

hmm is there a way when uninstalling vehicle part to let it be on the tile you uninstalled it on instead of getting it into your inventory ?

[wicked crane]

I thought the textures for the vehicle were the wrong size, I upscaled to 1024x1024 but that wasn't the issue.. Masks/Mesh fine too.. I was comparing xml, lua and text files but I may have missed something.. I suppose I will have to do what Devidra suggested. I think I will have better luck comparing to default version, or a single car mod- I was comparing to other mods but the ones I have add a lot of vehicles. Thanks for the advice.

[cunning canyon]

Anyone know if a blender file set up for rendering environmental sprites is floating around? Ya know, with an isometric camera and some background reference grids in place?

[hollow shadow]

Anyone know how i can use movables in recipes? is there any mod that works with this that i can use as template?

[nimble spoke]

movables do not work in recipes

[hollow shadow]

movables do not work in recipes
@nimble spoke hmm, maybe I could make a moveable that is like a workbench and requires me to stand near it in order to craft something?

[nimble spoke]

There are mods that do that, Devs have changed the recipe code recently to make that easier, but I have not tried it myself yet

[tame mulch]

Update in AUD (Aiteron Userfriendly Debug). Full detail description on page in steam:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340608427

Who uses the mod - write your impressions, maybe you have any ideas what else to add?

[rigid void]

Suggestion: Ice cream truck. - Use the jolly ingle to lure zeds away / draw them to you. 🎵

[elder cobalt]

dope

[cunning canyon]

Ooh cool @tame mulch

I would suggest a quick teleport menu, or a really easy way to add custom buttons under your main menu. Sometimes I wanna trigger some random test logic without writing my own interface for it

[tame mulch]

Cool idea about custom buttons!

[cunning canyon]

There’s a debug tool made for unity that lets you bind custom buttons and it makes debugging so much easier 😩

I can’t remember if lua has attributes or not

But that’s how I did it in C#

[tame mulch]

@cunning canyon What kind of teleport menu?

[late hound]

They got left for dead!

[zealous wing]

And apologies for the late reply.

I've seen mods that do canning and jarring stuff.

E.g., CCCP, a mod I support does a lot of jarring of food.

But smoking or drying? None I subscibe to.

[cunning canyon]

I find when i'm making map mods and i'm too lazy to make a custom scenario it'd be nice to have a way to set my current position as a teleport option

one of the other cheat mods already has functionality, but it's kinda bloated, lists a bunch of locations I don't care about, and hides the "custom teleport locations" all the way to the right where i have to scroll to find it

Literally just "set current location as teleport preset" and have an option to give it a custom name

that persists between games

[grizzled grove]

I'd love that for map testing too

[abstract raptor]

just use the debug mode's zombie population

that works for teleporting

[cunning canyon]

?

not familiar with that menu

it lets you set custom teleports?

[abstract raptor]

No, it shows you a kinda mini map

and you can zoom in and teleport anywhere

[grizzled grove]

that's not as useful on a large map

[cunning canyon]

Yeah, I really need finer grain control, I often want to teleport to a VERY specific position

though, I will definetely use that now that you've made me aware of it, seems great for jumping around a map to find what cell I want to replace with new content!

[undone elbow]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2350427678

[severe ridge]

i have a untidy mod, cuz i aint getting paid to clean that shit

lmao

nice post tho, i see tons of full replacement mods, makes me sad

):

[hollow shadow]

Can you rate my mod(s) XD?

[undone elbow]

I can but it will take time. Not today. I guess the most will be OK/GOOD. 🙂

[drifting ore]

I've got a question about the newly released soundtrack mod that adds soundtracks from NMRIH and Darkwood. I'm on mobile/playing zomboid so visiting the workshop page is a no-go atm.

Question: Does the mod add the soundtracks in or does it overwrite Project Zomboid's current original soundtrack?

Also unrelated but is there any mod developer I can get into contact with? I've got an idea for a small mod that I haven't seen on the workshop yet whatsoever.

[analog sandal]

it replaces the early access soundtrack mostly

there's no safe way to ADD music currently

[tame mulch]

Update AUD mod!
Added teleport panel, custom buttons (that you can configure) and example debug scenario.
Details in description: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340608427

https://i.ibb.co/sHD5pRm/image.png

@cunning canyon update here 🙂

[drifting ore]

Huh, user friendly you say, does it have tiny descriptions in game for the uneducated such as I?

[tame mulch]

descriptions? Like tooltips?

[drifting ore]

Kind of, like when you hover over certain options in Sandbox+ when starting a new character.

[tame mulch]

Maybe add this in future

[drifting ore]

Maybe, I mean I have little reason to use debug stuff, but I'm also not very smart when it comes to coding game development.

[cunning canyon]

@tame mulch those are EXACTLY what I needed!

Thank you, structuring the buttons like additional lua hooks is great, love it

[tame mulch]

Need help - is there a tutorial on how to add clothes to the game? I have a model.x, what should I do next?

[late hound]

@tame mulch I'll dm you the process 😉

[frail brook]

Can I have the one copy of that, please?

[hollow shadow]

wait, iw ant to know too

[frail brook]

thanks

[carmine cosmos]

@late hound Might be best to share any information useful to modding directly here in the channel so that everyone in the future might benefit from that information

[frail brook]

It would be great if we had designated place for it. Tutorials get lost among other messages and people sometimes may not be willing to repeat the same thing for everyone

[carmine cosmos]

Could ask the moderator to pin important modding guides

[late hound]

Yeah I ought to make a guide, but there are still parts that I am still learning.

[high birch]

Maybe seperating the channel would help, modding-help and modding-guides or similiar

[cunning canyon]

I mean, we should probably be moving some of the wisdom shared here into the wiki

some of it is super out of date

also idk if we have the ability to pin stuff in this channel but we should also start doing that until it gets migrated to the wiki

[frail brook]

+1

[carmine cosmos]

I think a good place to start would be to submit all guides and general modding information to https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide

If anyone has a guide they would like to submit (that either they wrote or have a link to) and do not have the time to create a pull request please post the link here and tag me

I will create an issue in the repository and create a submission as soon as I can

[hollow shadow]

animzed when

[grizzled grove]

I have a bunch of scattered notes and tidbits that I'd like to share (mapping/tiles mostly), I'd just need to sit down and try to make it more readable and sort it out.

[carmine cosmos]

Mapping information would be most welcome!
https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide/issues/1

[hollow shadow]

How do i make it so a regular item has a visible model when its on the ground?

[late hound]

I think that only applies to weapons in the game, right?

[analog sandal]

and headgear

[severe ridge]

yeah, i have a debug book item that you can slam zombies with but the model looks nice on the floor lol

[nimble spoke]

a book is better than a pillow, or possibly a spoon lol

[hollow shadow]

is it possible to make a vehicle with no wheels?

[carmine cosmos]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

[nimble spoke]

@carmine cosmos that's how I feel whenever I'm forced to use them in game

which is almost never

[hollow shadow]

anyone know what these do?

[late hound]

what file is this in

[severe ridge]

thats a weapon script

some values dont apply for melee vice versa, i guess

[hollow shadow]

most of the vanilla guns have this

[nimble spoke]

MetalValue is a leftover variable for when they planned to add smithing. It is useless unless you use my blacksmith mod

it means how much workable metal it gives you if melt in a furnace

[hollow shadow]

Is there a way to force a weapon to have multihit on? and if yes, is there also a way to determine how many zombies it can hit per swing?

and maybe someone know what "ToHitModifier" and PushBackMod" do?

@nimble spoke

[nimble spoke]

PushBackMod is the "strenght" of the weapon to push zombies back on a hit, stabbing weapons have a bad value, while blunt weapons are better

to add multi hit check baseball bats, there is a maxhit or something like that set to 2

[hollow shadow]

Thanks alot ^^

[echo roost]

@abstract raptor Heya, just a question about Survivor Radio. How long can custom music be before it changes to a new song?

[abstract raptor]

Uh, I'm not sure -- ya know what, I'll probably spend some time and update it -- someone pointed out to me that the Reverend Dan is missing since the last update anyways, so I might as well also optimize the custom station

[severe ridge]

did a swat redux separate mod thing without the vehicles and swatmp5. Did a fashionmontage update and some models fixes and balances (bags/drop table mostly) just for personal use :B while we dont have a update

i have to fix naked zombies and thats it :B

[wicked crane]

@severe ridge clothing xml and old watch guids right. Also 3d models are missing from models folder is why vehicles are missing right.?

[severe ridge]

i dont deal with vehicles :f but i wasnt a big fan of the vehicles added itself :f too much loot

ok, done with the nakeds and etc

elwaldlsadas

[wicked crane]

yeah i usually ended up dying trying to juggle 3 riot shields lmao.

[severe ridge]

omae wa mow shindeiru

[radiant ginkgo]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1773965512

[long grove]

nice

[high birch]

Is there a way to call an event / function if you unequip clothes / weapons / bags?

[severe ridge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2352724959

lul

[long grove]

so from the looks this still spawns on zombies and so on?

[severe ridge]

yep :v i just reworked the original files

[long grove]

this'll be interesting, you normally get the clothes from the vehicles

[severe ridge]

and police stations

but now its easier from zombies, for sure 😆

[long grove]

oh cool

[severe ridge]

i think they only spawn around police stations and prisons

[long grove]

they spawn in anywhere that has the right spawn definitions or whatever

[severe ridge]

its set by zone

[long grove]

dont think they spawn in normal police vehicles, but thats not important

[severe ridge]

ZombiesZoneDefinition.Prison =```

nah, im liking the way is set so far

might need to buff some of the clothing a bit but that's it :B

[long grove]

im sure its fine, shits already heavy and sweaty as fuck

[severe ridge]

swat pack is very sweaty hahahaha

        name="Swat",
        chance=15,```

yeah, ill need to lower this to at least 1.5 chance

15 is crazy

[long grove]

i aint complaining

[long grove]

whats the chance in the original version?

[severe ridge]

15

i havent changed

but i've been dissecting the mod today lol

female models were set as male models

[long grove]

strange, its that high yet i barely see them when i enable the mod

[severe ridge]

:l

you gotta sit in a police station parking lot or the other locations and wait around, call some zombies and such

[long grove]

i found one randomly in a backyard once, idk how that works

[severe ridge]

🤷 me neither, i know zombie clothing is more consistent now

so its possible for them to just migrate, glue to groups and such

[nimble spoke]

I guess that way they can also spawn in police blockades or anywhere else police can spawn

but I might be wrong

[severe ridge]

mayb

[long grove]

also i think itll be fine but will this work with armored vests mod?

[severe ridge]

yes

but that just gives a flat 100% def for vests

the swat vest has like 50 :U idk what the choices were

i dont use that mod D:"

[wicked crane]

@severe ridge police chest vest and gloves gave me more armor than suit 😛

[severe ridge]

which suit?

[wicked crane]

mmm riot armor suit?

was all black onesie looking thing

        BiteDefense = 70,``` and iirc it made me take my helmet off

I don't recall what other combination of armor i was wearing, but basically it was better for for me to wear that VS the riot armor suit which was disappointing

[severe ridge]

:V yeah, at this point im going to end up tweaking the whole mod

lmao

[long grove]

@severe ridge armored vest mod also changes police zombie clothes

[severe ridge]

so they dont work together? lul

[long grove]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

thats why i asked

[severe ridge]

I've seen burger around a station, both spawns

It's okay

I need to change those riot boots model and i know just the thing. But now I need to sleep

[severe ridge]

ye

[willow estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/boots-leather-gif-10715740

[severe ridge]

these boots are made for stomping

didnt made too much of a difference on the male model lol

those thick legs

[nimble spoke]

wait, are you working with skinned models?

[severe ridge]

not really :v just workaround existing models :B

[willow estuary]

Haha, are those boots reskinned hazmat suits?

[severe ridge]

spiffo suits

hazmat are bigger

😆

[willow estuary]

😄

[long grove]

cool

[grizzled grove]

writing skin data manually in .x should be simple for a model like this, do the characters have toe joints?

[nimble spoke]

that's clever

@grizzled grove the problem is that we can't import or export skinned models properly, at least not for those of us using Blender

or do you mean using a text editor?

[grizzled grove]

yeah, i'm aware. but in plaintext, you could hack the rest together. It wouldn't be fun or as smart as fixing the exporter though.

[pastel zinc]

Anyone got any advice on how to hook into the Event.OnKeyPressed.Add(MyFunctionHere), in terms of how to tie it to a specific key press?

Atm, the only way I can see to make use of it would cause it to call on every key press (by checking which key was pressed from within the function).

Can I specify something like Event.OnKeyPressed.<something here to determine which key>.Add(MyFunctionHere)?

[little stream]

I like that survivers mod but every game i start they go on a shooting rampage xD

any way to make em less crazy ?

[dreamy silo]

is there a working wiki for hydrocraft?

just found an 404 one

[wicked crane]

Lower the settings from the menu, it has it's own tab iirc

[frail brook]

how did you get them with armature and second set of animations ?

armature is there but with walking animation*. It always gets replaced by global everytime I extract it

wait

I have an idea... gonna try and report you all back

[severe ridge]

🤔

just code the item to take a mesh and a texture?

if the mesh has an armature already 🤷

[frail brook]

just code the item to take a mesh and a texture?

you mean reuse vanilla game assets?

[nimble spoke]

that's what he meant

those boots are basically an invisible suit from that point up

[frail brook]

Is there any way to just edit (move) faces without messing up uv etc. ?

I tried one method.... Edited one of the meshes (didn't delete vertices ,just slightly moving them around ) , re-exported as .x . Then using Notepad+++, I overwrote new mesh data over the vanilla , while keeping armature and animations data unchanged... Didn't work as intended

texture cord count does not match vertex counts

[sonic helm]

Definitely approving of the non flat boots modle

[nimble spoke]

@frail brook because blender screws those too. Select everything, remove doubles and.... I think the last thing to fix it before exporting is to recalculate normals outside? I think that's what I did

ohhhh and sometimes, not always, you have to go UVmap editor and rotate back into position too

[drifting ore]

That book of the dead mod looks and sounds cool for like a Diet Lich Challenge/Zombocalypse Necromancy 101 challenge.

[frail brook]

I tried to remove doubles before....then half of vertices was gone. Thought that would screw up even more. Thanks for the tip

[frail brook]

Now I get separator character error... you did edit mesh, normals, and texture cords , right?

[nimble spoke]

I did, how are you importing them?

[frail brook]

as .x file. I didn't export animations or armature. What nuances do I need to pay attention?

[nimble spoke]

Well, the only .x importer I found was made for blender 2.6X, so here I use it with 2.69, are you using a more recent blender version? In my test I got worse results when using 2.75

[frail brook]

yeah... that explains a lot

2.79

I'm gonna download 2.69 and give it a try.

[harsh sapphire]

@severe ridge OH YIS, the god-tier mod of yours is back online! Thanks so much

[hollow shadow]

@nimble spoke Sorry for ping but is there a way i can make it not replace anything?

[nimble spoke]

There is, you need to edit BodyLocations.lua and remove all the lines that set Hazmat Suit as mutually exclusive with other locations

[frail brook]

I gotta end this thing once and for all

this is my export settings.

and this is the exact mesh valuesç right?

Should i include values starting line 18 or 19?

[nimble spoke]

I have no idea, fixing them through text editor never worked for me

[frail brook]

thanks anyway. I though you did

lmao i did get it to work

but it looks disturbing with walking animation

[nimble spoke]

What exactly are you trying to do?

[frail brook]

i'm trying to replace vanilla mesh with slight edited version

without f*cking up all the animations

[spiral plover]

Has anyone attempted animated tiles before? I have some ideas but it may not be very performant

[long grove]

tv's

[drifting ore]

what the frick does this mean in the items_weapons.txt

the angle in which you can hit zombs infront of you?

[drifting ore]

also uhhh which one governs the swing speed of a weapon

MinimumSwingTime, SwingTime, or BaseSpeed

[cunning canyon]

Idk because I’ve not edited that, but it’s possible swing time is calculated as a random value between “MinimumSwingTime” and “MinimumSwingTime + SwingTime”

BaseSoeed sounds more like related to character movement but idk

I’d play with the values and see what happens

[drifting ore]

cause im thinking of making an excel sheet of all the current weapons within categories (one-handed, two-handed, etc) and want to find relevant stats to include

would changing the txt file directly alter the item in game?

ive never edited files like this before oof

[late hound]

@carmine cosmos I added a guide on making custom clothing to your GitHub modder guide.

Let me know when you add it to the main branch.

[hollow shadow]

Is there a function I could use with on create to spawn vehicles?

[spiral plover]

🤔 I forgot about the TVs!

I’ll have to take a look, really shouldn’t be hard, just flipping through a sprite sheet

[long grove]

theres also microwaves, ovens and all that

[spiral plover]

Those aren’t animated though, they trigger an overlay and that’s it

[long grove]

i'd assume similar concepts

or code or whatnow

[spiral plover]

Yeah they probably are but it’s not quite the same

Wanna make stuff like dripping water and such

[sour island]

is there any documentation on where to get started with modding?

[long grove]

check pins

[sour island]

ooh, tyty

are there Lua events for the traits window in character creation or does that fall under a general ui event?

[nimble spoke]

No events that I can think of right now, what do you want to do?

[sour island]

I would like to modify allowed points to spend to include -1

as well as a few other things

for example, the save on the profession/traits window button doesn't preload the name of the previously selected entry like the sandbox options window does

I figured these were challenging goals to get my feet wet

also something that irks me, and I imagine others

[nimble spoke]

You may want to check mods that reactivate old traits, mods that add/change professions, like Profession Framework, but that save thing is probably in that screen's lua file

[sour island]

alrighty, thanks

[queen fractal]

i feel like this is the right place to ask s o

i use build 40

and

i have ORGM

whenever i play with frends who have ORGM, magazines and guns sometimes spawn with ammo already in them

when i play on my own or when i host, i never find guns or magazines with ammo

is this a setting issue because idk what might be the issue

[hollow shadow]

Did you enable the mod in your save?

@nimble spoke Is there a function that allows me to spawn a specific vehicle? so i could use it on an oncreate function?

[sour island]

cheatmenu has spawning vehicles - you could probably find an example there

public static void setTorso(SurvivorDesc paramSurvivorDesc) {
if (paramSurvivorDesc.isFemale()) {
paramSurvivorDesc.torso = "Kate";
} else {
paramSurvivorDesc.torso = "Male";
}
}

heh

[queen fractal]

@hollow shadow no, made a new save

[hollow shadow]

me and my friend already looked there, but theres tons of UI and submenu functions..

[nimble spoke]

Necroforge can also spawn specfici vehicles

[carmine cosmos]

Hey thanks for making a submission, I do not have the permission to approve, reject or edit your pull request but I have contacted Fenris about granting me more access to repository.
Until then I can only review it 📝

[sour island]

CheatCoreCM.SpawnVehicle = function(name) -- will be expanded later
addVehicle(name)
end

[hollow shadow]

will that work xDD?

[late hound]

@carmine cosmos Ah, alrighty. I thought I ping you, since you were the one that shared out the link the last time.

[sour island]

if SUV is the definition I guess

and it would have to be addVehicle(name)

[hollow shadow]

@sour island

[sour island]

inside the ()

Idk where the default car's IDs are

[hollow shadow]

something needs to be inside the ()?

[carmine cosmos]

I asked to be pinged in case someone wanted me to submit it for them due to time constraints or not knowing how Git works. In that case I would easily do it for them, but thanks anyway, I will review your pull request

[sour island]

yeah

[hollow shadow]

but what ;-;

[wicked crane]

🚗

[sour island]

there's a file that defines cars for other's mods

you'll have to find a list of the standard cars

[hollow shadow]

@sour island this?

[sour island]

I guess so, it looks different in the cheatmenu defining list

try (SUV) and see what breaks

I just started looking today

:>

[sour island]

try addVehicle(SUV) or addVehicle(Base.SUV)

again, I just started getting familiar with it- maybe someone else could help

[carmine cosmos]

@late hound Here you go, hope that helps 🙂

https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide/pull/4#pullrequestreview-564803393

[sour island]

I figured out how to mod point to spend to allow -1

unfortunately I had to replace the whole CharacterCreationProfession.render function cause the value was in there as an if statement

this would only be an issue if the render fundtion were to be changed in a later update correct?

[carmine cosmos]

Or if another mod decided to override the same function

[frail brook]

Is it possible to use different model when you holster the weapon?

or is there any mod previously done that ?

[hollow shadow]

Theres a mod that adds visible holsters

[frail brook]

no, I don't mean holster

The item itself

I want to attach Sheath when you equip it

[late hound]

well, you can probably make the sheath its own model, then add a layer mask to it, that may work? I never tried masking on things like holsters.

[frail brook]

hmm... i'm writing this down.

like a transparency layer to texture?

[late hound]

well if you check out the vanilla layer masks, you will figure out pretty quick. So for instance, I figured it out when I was editing the texture of the jackets. I wanted the jacket to appear a bit more zipped down, however I didn't extend the layer mask of the visible shirt below it, and so well, look what happened XD

[frail brook]

i see nudity mod installed

[late hound]

I am actively helping out with TheBetterFemale mod, so I just got it running by default.

[frail brook]

pz default models could have used some more vertices...

especially player model

[hollow shadow]

How do i make crafting sounds stop after crafting is finished?

[late hound]

Are you using the regular vanilla crafting sound?

[deft vapor]

Can anyone tell me if this is the proper way to change an item.
Events.OnGameStart.Add( function ()

local item = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Cigarettes")
if item then
item:DoParam("DisplayName = Cigarette Packet")
end
end

[hollow shadow]

Nope, im using custom sounds

[hollow shadow]

Problem is, if ppl speed up the crafting, then the sound for it stops too late

[sour island]

I can't seem to make my mod appear in the mod selection screen

oh wait I see why

[late hound]

I believe fmod handles the vanilla sounds, so that when you speed up time, it acts sort of reasonably.

So don't really think there is a solution to it as you want to add a new custom sound.

fmod is the program that handles the games .bank files btw.

[hollow shadow]

No no i already added custom crafting sounds

i just want the sounds to automaticly stop when the player finished crafting the item

im not replacing anything in vanilla here

[late hound]

Yeah I know what you mean, I've added custom sounds before without fmod, I saying that currently its not possible to add new sounds to the fmod sound file list so it can fall under its rule set

[hollow shadow]

Is there a way to add new ground buildables? like making tables / shelfes in carpentry menu? is there any tutorial for this?

[late hound]

I don't think there is a tutorial for it, but I bet its very possible to add to that carpentry list.

You just need to find the carpentrymenu .lua file and whatnot.

[sour island]

yeehaw, I figured out how to get the save function in the profession window to have the selected preset as the default

[hollow shadow]

@late hound I tried this, do you know what the yellow numbers mean?

[sour island]

what do I call my mod... it makes the Profession/Traits presets Save feature default to the selected preset/build rather than be blank

Profession/Traits Preset Save +?

[grizzled grove]

i like that idea! maybe.. "My most recent profession"?

[late hound]

Could be length and width @ djvirus, play around with then to find the other's function.

[nimble spoke]

@hollow shadow required materials, check the canBuild function and you will see the list, one of the values is the carpentry skill level

[sour island]

published my first mod

[sour island]

I wonder if the toolbox has a model

😮

it does but it's not swingable? the travesty

[sour island]

aw, you can't have container weapons 😦

I wanted to add purse swinging

[carmine cosmos]

That is an amazing idea, that could probably be modded 🤔

[sour island]

probably, I'd have to spend some time figuring out if item types can be a list

categories seems to support multiple values

[carmine cosmos]

What do you mean with item types?

[sour island]

item seem to be 'normal' 'weapon' 'container' etc

if I make the toolbox a weapon it loses its container function

another variable called categories seems to be able to support more than 1 seperated by a semicolon

[carmine cosmos]

Sure, but you can save the original item and then replace the wielded weapon (non-container one) with the original container once placed back in inventory

[sour island]

putting a semicolon in type just puts it in limbo

true

[carmine cosmos]

That would probably be the best solution imo

What class defines a weapon?

[sour island]

I'm only working in scripts for this- so I'm not sure

in the vanilla game you have to equip a container to access it no?

I have a mod that lets you access any container in your main inv

I don't think swapping the items on equip would work on vanilla

I'll try figuring out something tomorrow

[carmine cosmos]

I think weapons are defined as HandWeapon

HandWeapon extends InventoryItem so it should work

[sour island]

so it would be possible to give weapon functionality to container items?

[carmine cosmos]

Have you actually tried it?

Just looking at the code I would have to say yes

[sour island]

I simply changed their type in scripts

I havn't tried messing in lua yet

I wonder if I could adjust values based on their contents too

stick a hammer into a purse for more range

[carmine cosmos]

Can you show me what you changed exactly?

I have the code open, maybe I can help

[sour island]

just scripts/items _weapons _clothing

media/scripts/items etc

[carmine cosmos]

I don't know how these things are defined exactly in scripts

But I can tell you how they work in Java

Just tell me what you need

[sour island]

the scripts would be surface level stuff, I' just assigned values for weapon variables

I'll poke around in the lua for more drastic changes

is it currently possible to break a container? like a garbage bag?

[carmine cosmos]

Here is your container item InventoryContainer

public void setCanBeEquipped(String var1) {
    this.CanBeEquipped = var1 == null ? "" : var1;
}```

Would you look at that? 😄

Try just calling that method like so:

myItemObject.setCanBeEquipped("true")

From what I can see that should make it equippable

Use this method to set the container item:

myItemObject.setItemContainer(containerItemObject)

[sour island]

thanks!

[carmine cosmos]

There is a difference between InventoryContainer and ItemContainer

The code above is for an instance of InventoryContainer

[sour island]

all items can be equipped already though- maybe that's referring to clothing?

[carmine cosmos]

Every InventoryItem has a ItemContainer object as a protected field

There is a container and rightClickContainer

[carmine cosmos]

You said that containers can't be equipped though 🤔

[sour island]

they can't be swung as weapons

[carmine cosmos]

Ah yes sry, that's right

[sour island]

I kind of wish anything could be used as a weapon even if ineffectively

[carmine cosmos]

Okay I think I get it

Item can either be defined as InventoryContainer or HandWeapon

Not both, you would need a custom class for that

This is probably not possible only through Lua modding

I will put this on my TODO list for Java modding

Since it's such a great concept 👌

[sour island]

sweet

[grizzled grove]

is there an educational resource for java modding in pz?

[hexed anchor]

you mod stuff in lua though

and you can look at the mod template and just see how it works

or open the game's code files, other people's mods, etc

don't think theres a dedicated library teaching every nook and cranny

[carmine cosmos]

Are you interested in modding pz with Java?

[sour island]

is there a recommended java ide?

[carmine cosmos]

https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

To be honest you should be using that for working with Lua as well

It has auto-completion and search via symbols/classes that works with Lua

[sour island]

I've been using Atom

[carmine cosmos]

Yea that's a step above using just notepad but it's still inefficient

[grizzled grove]

Thanks for the link! And potentially, just looking ahead at some stuff I might want to accomplish with map/tile mods, wondering what's feasible for modding and such. I'd most likely be looking into custom tile properties.

mostly I wasn't sure if java is in bounds for modding

[carmine cosmos]

Every game written in Java can be modded directly through Java

Do you have any experience working with Java?

[grizzled grove]

nope

[carmine cosmos]

Would be pretty hard to mod using that language then 🙂

It's a bit more difficult to learn then Lua

[grizzled grove]

nothing like being thrown right into it though 🙂

[carmine cosmos]

Yea that's how I learned as well 😄

[grizzled grove]

I guess my big question for now is how does one go about getting the game to read some standalone code?

[carmine cosmos]

But the learning curved forced me to do a lot of reading though

[carmine cosmos]

You mean code written in Java?

[grizzled grove]

yeah. Like lets say I do write some cool tile property, would I be trying to get the main class (ISOtile i think?) injected with custom lines, or some other method?

[sour island]

@carmine cosmos is there a way to get around 'file is read only' in intellij? selecting set read-only/writable doesn't seem to matter

[carmine cosmos]

What are you trying to edit? Note that libraries are always read-only

[carmine cosmos]

You would need to use bytecode manipulation

[sour island]

oh, I was going to play around in the .class for inventorycontainers

[grizzled grove]

interesting, thanks

[carmine cosmos]

You need to de-compile the game in source code first then recompile it

But the recompilation process is sometimes a pain in the ass, that is not the right way to go about it

[sour island]

oh?

[carmine cosmos]

The best way to go about is via bytecode manipulation but that requires a high degree of Java knowledge and is not something you can learn over night

[sour island]

alrighty

I'll stick to the non container items for now

smashing zombies over the head with a mug is just as fun

[cunning canyon]

I think you could get a lot more done than you realize with Lua, it’s not a super well documented API, but you can poke all the vanilla Lua code

What kind of custom tile properties are you looking into?

[grizzled grove]

Nothing in particular besides a fire alarm that a player could pull. I have a wild idea for an optimization, but it's way beyond what I could pull off. A flag for business/downtown type Eastern and Southern windows where they only allow you to see into a building if you're within a couple of tiles, otherwise they show opaque. And full visibility if you're to the West or North of these windows (or indoors, whichever makes more sense.)

[cunning canyon]

That fire alarm sounds very doable and also very cool

In Lua

The window visibility one feels like it might be Lua-able, idk tho for sure

Fire alarm sound like a modified light switch

[grizzled grove]

it would need a shader to do part of the work too, dunno if we can apply those via lua

[cunning canyon]

Do we need a shader?

For the viz?

[grizzled grove]

in my head the window would fade transparent/opaque, and then declare itself as allowing vision through it or not

[cunning canyon]

Sounds like fading in one tile and fading out another

I may not be visualizing what your saying properly

But it sounds like just changing the opacity of a tile

I mostly say this because I hate writing shaders by hand and tend to avoid it unless there’s a nod based editor for it 😂

[carmine cosmos]

What are you trying to do with windows exactly?

[grizzled grove]

opacity and blocking vision are two separate things

yooks: #mod_development message

basically to ease compositing for heavy downtown type areas. performance tanks when there's many buildings with many foors and many windows that the player can see in.

[carmine cosmos]

Here is the code that tests vision for windows:

public IsoObject.VisionResult TestVision(IsoGridSquare var1, IsoGridSquare var2) {
  if (var2.getZ() != var1.getZ()) {
     return IsoObject.VisionResult.NoEffect;
  } else {
     if (var1 == this.square) {
        if (this.north && var2.getY() < var1.getY()) {
           return IsoObject.VisionResult.Unblocked;
        }

        if (!this.north && var2.getX() < var1.getX()) {
           return IsoObject.VisionResult.Unblocked;
        }
     } else {
        if (this.north && var2.getY() > var1.getY()) {
           return IsoObject.VisionResult.Unblocked;
        }

        if (!this.north && var2.getX() > var1.getX()) {
           return IsoObject.VisionResult.Unblocked;
        }
     }

     return IsoObject.VisionResult.NoEffect;
  }
}

Gonna check if that is defined in lua somewhere

[grizzled grove]

Zombies should always be able to view through it, and there's potential for some griefing in multiplayer (someone could hang on an upper floor undetected with a sniper rifle for quite some time)

so, it may not even be a good idea.

[carmine cosmos]

Can't find anything in lua that would affect this

But that is pretty much the method you would need to override

There of course are probably shoddy ways of doing that by checking on each tick but that would be horribly unoptimized

[cunning canyon]

Ahhh yeah if it’s an optimization thing that would probs be a different story

Also the situation you listed with the sniper is a feature not a bug

😂

[grizzled grove]

actually yooks, i could use some help understanding something if you don't mind. There's a new b41 tile property "diamondfloor"; I can't quite figure out what it does. In IsoGridSquare.class and IsoCell.class

[cunning canyon]

Lol

[grizzled grove]

Apparently when not used properly it can offset a floor tile

[cunning canyon]

Curious about this too

[carmine cosmos]

What exactly do you need to know?

[grizzled grove]

It seemed like it had something to do with getting a boundary between ground and water?

[carmine cosmos]

This code is a bit difficult to understand (texture render code usually is)

This is the part you were talking about in IsoGridSquare#renderFloorInternal:

if (!var22.getProperties().Is(IsoFlagType.diamondFloor) && !var22.getProperties().Is(IsoFlagType.water)) {
  var34 = FloorShaperDeDiamond.instance;
} else {
  var34 = FloorShaperDiamond.instance;
}

Here are the SpritePaddingSettings for FloorShaperDeDiamondSettings:

ZoomedIn = new BorderSetting(2.0F, 1.0F, 2.0F, 0.01F);
NotZoomed = new BorderSetting(2.0F, 1.0F, 2.0F, 0.01F);
ZoomedOut = new BorderSetting(2.0F, 0.0F, 2.5F, 0.0F);

I don't know if this makes any sense to you, but without more details on what exactly you want to know it is hard for me to offer more assistance 😕

[grizzled grove]

yeah, i'm digging around more now, I see there's a lot more to it. It struck me as odd to begin with, since we already had an "isFloor" flag. This seems much further reaching, I'm seeing stuff for lighting, padding, bordering, maybe tinting a shoreline...

[carmine cosmos]

Can you post that stuff here?

[grizzled grove]

I'm just clicking around class names in this decompiler, it's quite a rabbit hole

[cunning canyon]

It’d be neat if the devs could run a poll on “what’s one feature about pz’s internals you’d like explained” every other week or something

[grizzled grove]

  public void setShore(boolean paramBoolean) { this.isShore = paramBoolean; }

  public void setWaterDepth(float paramFloat1, float paramFloat2, float paramFloat3, float paramFloat4) {
    this.waterDepth[0] = paramFloat1;
    this.waterDepth[1] = paramFloat2;
    this.waterDepth[2] = paramFloat3;
    this.waterDepth[3] = paramFloat4;
  }
 
  public void setTintColor(int paramInt) { this.colTint = paramInt; }```

this is all quite interesting though, from FloorShaper.class

[cunning canyon]

I didn’t realize what we had depth

Water*

[grizzled grove]

might be WIP or ditched

[cunning canyon]

Ahh

[carmine cosmos]

The FloorShaperDiamond is also calling setVertColors

[cunning canyon]

Added for blacksmithing to quench your crafted items 😜

[carmine cosmos]

So definitely affects the water depth and the color of the tiles

[cunning canyon]

So if you’re using it on a regular floor tile I could see that causing the problems we saw in someone’s map

[carmine cosmos]

The water depth affects the texture color:

      if (this.isShore && DebugOptions.instance.Terrain.RenderTiles.IsoGridSquare.ShoreFade.getValue()) {
         var1.col0 = Color.setAlphaChannelToABGR(var1.col0, 1.0F - this.waterDepth[0]);
         var1.col1 = Color.setAlphaChannelToABGR(var1.col1, 1.0F - this.waterDepth[1]);
         var1.col2 = Color.setAlphaChannelToABGR(var1.col2, 1.0F - this.waterDepth[2]);
         var1.col3 = Color.setAlphaChannelToABGR(var1.col3, 1.0F - this.waterDepth[3]);
      }

Keep in mind that this is all in flux and could change at any moment

Might not be the best time to be modding tiles 😄

[grizzled grove]

such is life

[carmine cosmos]

I like the fire alarm idea

[grizzled grove]

I think it was Diederik. But the problem there was it had isFloor flagged, but also not diamondFloor. (currently all full floor tiles in the game have both ticked)

fire alarm is certainly easier and probably lua-able

[carmine cosmos]

If you have an interesting and applicable idea you would like to collaborate on just ping me, I am very interested in helping mods I find as useful or even interesting

[grizzled grove]

will do, thanks

[cunning canyon]

I have very limited knowledge of the games actual API, but I do know Lua and can troubleshoot regular Lua problems lol

[mint sphinx]

Is there a way to spawn a trailer into the game? In - DEBUG mode?

[sonic helm]

Think you might have to wait until Necroforge gets updated

[mint sphinx]

cant even use project zomboids itemlist with out get errors ^^ so i hope they fix their own debug tool aswell :/

[mint sphinx]

but i didnt find one trailer trunk after 3 hours driving around so got fixed at least one bug in my code

[tame mulch]

AUD mod update:

• Added super fast walk/run

[sour island]

So I've been giving items with models weapon type- and it looks and works fine but I ran into a weird bug. If I have a bag equipped as my secondary and one of these items like a mug/cooking pot/kettle as my primary I can't attack at all - I can't even push

equipping something that's a weapon by default is fine tho

even a saucepan which has the same functions as the mug would

[late hound]

@mint sphinx You can not use necroforge with their debug menu.

[nimble spoke]

@sour island I think it is intentional that you can't fight if you're holding 3 items that way, at least for 2 bags I know it's intentional

[sour island]

it counts as three items?

If I equip primary: saucepan, secondary: tote bag; I can attack
If I equip primary: modified mug/kettle, secondary: totebag; I can't attack

to clarify

I do have to go through the values though since I just threw anything in there- so there might be a value causing this interaction

it must have been- since it works now

[sour island]

are you able to override a specific variable or if you redifine an item do you have to include the entire {}?

I would like to add sounds to some weapons with out having to overwrite and include all their default variables

[cunning canyon]

Omg thank god, that’s a good feature

[nimble spoke]

sorry, mistyped 2 items lol, what are the changes to mug/hettle?

[sour island]

🤷‍♂️ I put that problem on the back burner and started removing/modifying some variables

[nimble spoke]

check Item Weaker API in the workshop, you can change just the values you want, but not through txt scripts

[sour island]

that would be in game?

like on the fly?

[nimble spoke]

could be on the fly I guess but I never tested that, usually just a list that is loaded along with all lua files

[sour island]

oh nice- I see now- exactly what I wanted

[deft vapor]

recipe Place in Packet
{
Cigarettes=20,
Result:CigarettePacket,
Sound:PZ_PutInBag,
Time:5.0,
}

recipe Open Packet
{
CigarettePacket,
Result:Cigarettes=20,
Sound:PZ_PutInBag,
Time:3.0,
}
Can anyone enlighten me here, why the hell is Open packet giving me 400 Cigs. What am I not seeing? Makes no sense.

[carmine cosmos]

Maybe the result is giving you 20 stacks of 20 cigarettes 🤔

[shrewd grove]

holy shit the sports cars sound good now

[nimble spoke]

cigarettes always spawn in 20

[sour island]

@shrewd grove I was inspired, so I'm going to be throwing in weapon sounds to my mod

overlapped the bathit sound with a wrench jingle

[deft vapor]

Then why when I change Result:Cigarettes=20 to 1 I get 1. 😅

[nimble spoke]

lol, bug @inland gull about that

you can alsways try an OnCreate function to add them "manually"

[sour island]

what if you have open = 20, but place = 1?

would that leave you with 19 in your inv?

[deft vapor]

What does place mean? I don't know how to use it.

[deft vapor]

Thanks! I'm going to give that a try.

[sour island]

recipe Place in Packet
but I didnt read it was a recipe

just realized you can override the swing sound itself

[tame mulch]

Lockpick engine start

[fallow bridge]

why not just make it a hotwire minigame? would fit into how the game normally works and stuff right?

[tame mulch]

hotwire minigame will be too

for lockpick engine start you need 3lvl of lockpicking, for hotwire - 2lvl of mechanics, 1lvl of electric

[brittle trench]

Do you have to lockpick the car every time you want to start the engine ?

[tame mulch]

Yep

[sour island]

irl isn't it just once if you leave the screwdrivier in there?

or is that just the movies

[mint sphinx]

im speaking about pzs own itemlist get like 8 erroes when i link on that when i run in -debug

[late hound]

It must be a mod conflict then. The vanilla debug menu should produce no errors

[mint sphinx]

dont really have time to look after it before after my system intergration exame tomorrow ^^

[hexed anchor]

bonk

[sour island]

the real bonk

[hollow shadow]

Is there a way to change gender quickly without making a new char?

[abstract raptor]

👀

[hollow shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[ruby fractal]

Can you use hydrocraft on build 41?

[wicked crane]

@hollow shadow enable serious survivor and enable husband/wife spawn, right click, debug take control of survivor

[mint sphinx]

i think one of them have updated it to 41 but on steam workshop its still marks at 40 build

[late hound]

New feature to Authentic Animations

Seems like "If you can't beat them, join them." is not really working.

[ruby fractal]

That is fantastic

[unkempt maple]

If I were to record all radio dialogue, and wanted to add the voice recordings to the game. How would I go about it? I find it anti climatic the radio and TV not having sound.

Or has anyone else done it? Or? I'm fairly new to the game and this discord

Or is there like thousands of lines of dialogue

@ancient flame random moderator : P

[mint sphinx]

you might be able to reject it into the same line of code where it write out the dialogue but then instead of write it run the recorded version of that line either as parallel or replacement

[unkempt maple]

If I were to record all lines, could someone help with the lua scripting side of it?

Hmmm doesn't seem that hard

[unkempt maple]

Parallel's best

[mint sphinx]

I'm fairly new to Lua and don't have time this month.. But you might be able to liste to same event call and then play the audio clip base on that radio event call.. Buy I'm back to read my question for my exam for tomorrow

[sour island]

Misread the break chance for weapons as x out of 100 rather than 1 in x- mugs were basically indestructible lol

[sour island]

I'm noticing the sounds I added cut out in weird angles? I used ogg vorbis- does the game prefer wav? I see both in the directory

[mint sphinx]

after my knowlagde they use ogg

[sour island]

weird- I added weapon sounds and occasionally it will be distorted/muffled

usually when I'm facing up

[mint sphinx]

but it look like all vecihle use wav

so you can try with wav and see if it fix the problem

[sour island]

true

[mint sphinx]

look like in the default game they convered all old sounds to wav and all the extra new sounds is only in wav

[sour island]

hm

I'll conform to that then

as I understood ogg was a smaller file size so I wanted to play it safe

[mint sphinx]

it is like a 1/10 of a wav size

[sour island]

my headphones were slightly unplugged 😐

[mint sphinx]

@sour island at least you found your problem 🙂

[low spear]

what is that?

[obsidian sundial]

classic zombie sounds from resident evil 2

[low spear]

sounds really good

[obsidian sundial]

thanks🙂

[deft vapor]

Reload could be quieter. Sounds great.

[obsidian sundial]

I'll fix it ... thanks friend

do you think the zombie sound sounds good?

[analog sandal]

it's not true that the game preferred ogg

all the vanilla Bank sounds are wav files

what you're experiencing are 2 bugs that are not solvable due to how the third party game engine handles culling

also spatialization

basically two things happen if your e adding sounds in loose form for new weapons for example

the stereo rapidly hard pans left to right when moving while the sound is playing

and the sound being attentuated if not completely cut off when you kill a zombie and there are 4 more zombies making sound around you

no known fix for adding sounds, though there's a workarounds I've been using for replacing them

modders usually use ogg because it saves file size and tbh you won't notice the difference in the way the game audio is set up

but all vanilla sounds (and mine) are wav 48khz with a totally random number of channels ranging from mono to 5 on one file

also only the vehicle sounds and glass footsteps are actually read from the game directory, the rest are located in banks / desktop, so the loose files are simply redundant. strangely enough the game doesn't launch without them so it clearly loads them but then never used them

[sudden mauve]

I have some questions about modding

If i have a world thats been looted and i want to add mods to it, is there a way to make items respawn in those looted areas so that the mod items spawn too?

How do you manualy edit an item so it has other properties? (like being able to attach to the back and use as a weapon)

[mint sphinx]

he found the problem "ChuckToday at 17:52
my headphones were slightly unplugged" also how can it be all the vechile is only wav and all new zombie sound is wav aswell if the game prefer ogg? i know back in 39 that was the case but after the dev stop convert them to ogg or made all the old ogg files back to wav i wonder

[analog sandal]

yeah but the 2 bugs still hjappen nevertheless if he plugs or unplugs the headphones

everything is wav for vanilla

none of the files in the folders are actually read by the game

[mint sphinx]

when you created the game you could set the loot to respawn after x amount of days if it was unloaded area for that time

[analog sandal]

go in and try to change the 9mm shot sound for example, it'll not change at all

[sudden mauve]

So, is there a way to change those world settings still?

[analog sandal]

the only sounds the game reads from the loose folders are the sounds starting with the "vehicle_" prefix (wav), WalkOnBrokenGlass01-04 (wav), tire_explode (wav), files starting with the "zb_" prefix (wav). the rest are read from banks/desktop (all wav there)

[cyan drum]

is it normal for the crafting menu to cause the game to freeze up if you have hydrocraft (build 41) on? I want to make sure it's not going to crash (it always comes back)

[mint sphinx]

i see. btw Raven do you know where to find the spirit for default models of project zomboid ? or textures

[analog sandal]

no idea, I'm just the audio guy

[mint sphinx]

dont know. tried to give it a fast go but couldnt really find the correct file which have the meta world data for the world

[mint sphinx]

i see.. just more and more i dig into "pz" own lua files i can see the dev is from different countries on how they spell and call the items ^^ and also a lot of death code in them aswell

[analog sandal]

well the audio side of things has a lot of redundancies so I'd imagine the code being the same? probably part of the iteration process, who the heck knows, I've done my part and am leaving the game alone until they remake their audio

[mint sphinx]

dont think that will happen anytime soon

[analog sandal]

it would make the most sense to do it before animals and hunting, but for now I've got my own sounds in the game so I can at least get halfway (can't fix the implementation, though)

[late hound]

a world's settings in an active run, are put into the Users\zomboid\saves folder

[sour island]

item PopBottleEmpty
{ DisplayName = Empty Bottle,

For some reason, in game, it's called Empty Orange Soda Bottle....

that phrase isn't found in any scripts I can find :\

[late hound]

its found in the EN translation txt file

[sour island]

ahhh

well that's annoying

[sudden mauve]

in that folder i can find the save

but then its just a bunch of chunk and data files

[sudden mauve]

Il look for this specific one

[late hound]

its like in lua\shared\translate\EN btw

[sour island]

weird, kettle/mugs/bottles still work as weapons but watering can and mayo/remo break

[sour island]

does anyone know if I can move these models so they sit differently?

like, is it possible

[late hound]

mmm I believe you can

Give it the same values as the gas cans or totebags

[sour island]

I'm not sure which values but I'll keep playing with it

[nimble spoke]

I usually fix that by editing the model itself

[sour island]

using the default bucket model

guess I'll learn how to tweak models

do you know how to open the debug window?

[wicked crane]

delete your map.bin files inside of the save's folder

[wicked crane]

your games loading a lot of recipes, like a few thousand right? It takes a minute. I don't run that mod, but I gave my game more ram and it runs a lot better, maybe try that.

[honest goblet]

Heller. Iv got a problom with the mods im useing, the ui for the crafting menu and vehical menu's are all not showing up. im useing these mod's off of the steam worthshop "Armourd Vests" "Bedford Falls" "Hydrocraft" "Lockpickping. Just. Lockpicking." "Many Backpacks Mod" "More Traits" "OGRM Silencer" ORGtnMan's Real Gun Mod (Rechambered)" "Swatpackredux" "eris_Minimap" im on version 40.43. Please Help!

[willow estuary]

"Armourd Vests", "Swatpackredux" and possibly other mods on your list are b41 mods that will absolutely not work properly in build 40, and may be why you're having that issue.

[honest goblet]

thank you for your input ill test!

): nope didnt fix, but im glad i know that those mods are patch 41 thank you for that

[sudden mauve]

Wouldnt that also lead to the deletion of all player built objects and virtualy reset all the world's vehicle positions and all of that?

[mint sphinx]

im not sure vehicle posistions i think that is base in the vehicle.db file but you can alway backup the world and then try to do what he said and see if works or not

[sudden mauve]

Yes

Im listing the amount of stuff to do and made a backup to see what changes

but thanks anyway

[mint sphinx]

i found another way but have you ever played around with a hex editor before?

[honest goblet]

Ok i tracked down the mod doing it

"More Traits"

[sudden mauve]

nope

[mint sphinx]

i noraml use the online browser one called https://hexed.it/ then you need to open the file name called map_sand.bin in the save directory after that you have to find line number 00000670 its on the left site of where all the hex number are and then you change the hex number from 31 to 32 where it called lootRespawn..1.. then it should change it to lootRespawn..2.. in the text to the right site

that mean it will respawn new loot every in game day

[sudden mauve]

Thats useful

[mint sphinx]

but most importen before to do this kind of edit in files is backup the world ^^

[sudden mauve]

ofc

i would def mess with it to see what each number does

[mint sphinx]

1 = never respawn, 2 = every day, 3 = every week, 4 = every month, 5 = every 2nd month,

[sudden mauve]

thanks

[wicked crane]

@mint sphinx you could also simply generate a new sand.bin and copy it from another save instead of doing that as well.

[wicked crane]

Vehicle positions are tied to vehicles.db and player data is also stuffed in there now. Player built objects should stay IIRC (honestly, I don't know), but it would delete any loot not in a car and reset all containers.

[wicked crane]

More Traits works fine, its only 2 or 3 traits that are really broken and don't work correctly. Bouncer, antiquer and scrounger

[honest goblet]

yes but i was useing 41 on 40

[wicked crane]

Glad it's sorted, mb was just replying to stuff I thought hasn't been addressed

[honest goblet]

thank you

[mint sphinx]

first saw this one now and that true you can do that under normal circumstances but i noticed, when i fast went though the save files that apocalypse survivor builder and custom sandbox in playstyle had a slightly different line in the hex place. and i dont know which kind of gameplay he was playing. so was thinking that was the best way to edit it with out to many problems. but the way you want to change it should also be a possibility. just that the random "watershut down and elec shotdown might get a different value so could be back into the world agian if you got a higher random on create world

[scenic oasis]

Hey guys! I have an fbx model of a car and textures for it, how can I implement it?

[sudden mauve]

thats a great question that i also dont know

[sour island]

???

watering can with water depletes to watering can in the scripts

but in game it turns into empty watering can

which isn't even listed in the scripts

same issue with mayo jars and remoulade jars

no other fillable item does this

trying to fill watering can/mayo jar/rem causes an error

all I'm trying to do is change the type to weapon

can an item be declared twice?

my only guess is that it's listed somewhere else

but the class is the same 😐

[mint sphinx]

fastes way is download a mod over steam and see how they did it. help me a lot when i hit the brick wall for no documentation

but usely it just a MyAmazingCar.txt in scripts/vehicles you do and then make a lua scrip with the distributionsTable

when using txt document it need to gave few template in them and then tell each part what kind of fbx they are

[nimble spoke]

@sour island are you talking about item names or internal IDs? anyway I never tested turning similar items into weapons, I always pick "normal" items that have no other script functionalities

[sour island]

I have converted a few items into weapons and they're fine

these three are giving me a headache

Weaponizes and Adds Sounds to: Mug, Kettle, Gas Can, Water/Pop/Whiskey/Wine/Wine2/Beer/Mayo/Remoulade/Bleach Bottle, Jar, Bucket (Added Texture), Paint Bucket, Watering Can, Garden Spray, Garden/Hack Saw, Sturdy Stick

the bold

[scenic oasis]

ok, sounds intеrеsting. thx!

[mint sphinx]

also it wasnt anyother then another mesh + texture you wantet to change on a car right? becuase if it also need other fuction you have to code it in lua

[sour island]

:\

I don't know why it would be breaking the item switch with replaceuseon

[mint sphinx]

my experiences i have sometimes break the statements up in 2 part

[sour island]

that's game code

[mint sphinx]

so try to see if that works like 1 line before local itemcon = item:getCondition()

[sour island]

I'm only mucking in scripts atm

[mint sphinx]

never got my unit test and mocking to work with any ide :/

@sour island how close is lua mock compare to mockito in java??

[sour island]

I'm not sure what that means

[mint sphinx]

nvm i might misunderstood a thing or 2 ^^

i even first notice the U in that word so i missunderstood hate my dyslexia ^^

[sour island]

If anyone can see why this is happening- or even how it's getting renamed??

would translated text interfere with itemtypes?

[mint sphinx]

the problem is with water?

[sour island]

well 1, my reclassing isn't working

empty watering can shouldn't be in game as an item

and 2 the weapon version is trying to fill itself but can't

causing an error

saucepan does this in vanilla fine, and I've made mugs and bowls into weapons

I dont understand what is going on

[mint sphinx]

watering can with water and emtry watrerin can is from the itemsName.EN.txt file

[sour island]

but translation shouldn't impact itemType right?

my only guess is that since the weapon version is probably not being translated

[mint sphinx]

no it should not.

[sour island]

it's looking for an item with a different name

[mint sphinx]

defalt name is watering can right ?

[sour island]

defualt vanilla is empty watering can

but it's not defined that way in game

let me define it and see what breaks

[mint sphinx]

default water can name is defined as emptr watering can

[sour island]

this is the default file

[mint sphinx]

that the item_newitems.txt?

[sour island]

farming

[mint sphinx]

yea but where it get the name watering can with water is when it run though the lau files

[sour island]

I figured that, and that it may be a translation feature

but I don't get why the game is keeping the item version

[mint sphinx]

yea all displayname is a legacy code

[sour island]

I'm changing the type to weapon, there shouldn't be a normal typed empty watering can

[mint sphinx]

the one which called wateredcan ?

[sour island]

now that I think about it-- all three of the items giving me issues are in farming... and not an items_xyz file

wateredcan yes

watered can is also not getting renamed to empty watering can

[mint sphinx]

yea wateredcan is auto translated to "Empty Watering Can"

[sour island]

but it's not when it's typed as a weapon

I think I figured it out

module farming
{
imports
{
Base
}

it's not in Base

_>

[mint sphinx]

you want to get the same name ? like emtry water can when you change type?

[sour island]

my defined watered can is in module base

not module farming

as is mayo and remoulade

that has to be it

woo

[mint sphinx]

you got it ^^

used something like "farming.Wateredcan" ?

[sour island]

yeah

that's probably an oversight that it's not in base

but it does have an imports{Base}

[mint sphinx]

arhh yea it because its under farming items and not base ^^

[hollow shadow]

@sour island hey does your mod make stones / car batteries useable as weapon?

[sour island]

I've only done things with ingame models unused or otherwise

next iteration I'll have to figure out models

personally I don't see a point in 'normal items' and 'weapon items' when you could assign values to determine damage

I'm not even sure if this should be standalone or reported

where would you even report ... this?

[wicked crane]

Wym

[mint sphinx]

they they are there to make easier to find with debug mode and loot tables

[sour island]

the empty bottles aren't using the correct icons

wine = wineempty, wine2= wineempty, beer = wine2empty

there isn't an empty bottle icon

[wicked crane]

Mhmm so if I drink the beer I have been saving it will spawn wine bottle empty instead of beer bottle empty

[sour island]

no it's beer empty

but it looks like a wine bottle

[wicked crane]

I will test rn

[sour island]

I would also assume the full states are equally goofed

[wicked crane]

This ones for you @sour island 🍾

[sour island]

the beer is fine

as a water bottle

orange sodas are a pain tho

they're being translated to not be named simply empty bottle

[wicked crane]

You're right

I never noticed

Just drank the bottle

Drop the mod @sour island fix it:V

[mint sphinx]

you want the sodas to be emtry soda bottle?

[wicked crane]

No, you drink beer it spawn Empty Bottle but with wine bottle icon

Not beer bottle icon

[sour island]

the soda is being translated into saying Empty Orange Soda Bottle which takes it off the empty bottle stack

[wicked crane]

TIL you can put water in mayo bottle?!

Is that what that is??

[sour island]

wine2 (red) also get's filled into a wine(1 white)'s icon

yeah

you can put water in ALOT

but not jars

[mint sphinx]

nice name 😛

[sour island]

that's mayo

[mint sphinx]

chuck is that your mod there is the problem or default game ?

[elder cobalt]

water in a mayo bottle

i like it

[sour island]

that's the default game

my mod fixes the empty bottle's icons- but not the water filled ones

I figured I should just report it instead

[mint sphinx]

if its default game year you should

[slender garnet]

I will never drink water out of a mayo bottle

NEVER

[sour island]

ah, wine2 doesn't have a water item at all, it actually turns into wine(1)'s item

where do I report this

[mint sphinx]

forum i guess

[tame mulch]

Vehicle alarm check + new animation

[mint sphinx]

nice one but does it scale with level ? or will you always get it right away ?

do like the pick locking ^^

[tame mulch]

Maybe from level 3 lockpicking and 1 electricity?

oh

[mint sphinx]

its your mod 🙂 at least you can always release it and see what kind of fee back you get

[tame mulch]

i remember. Need learn from magazine

also you can check alarm of houses!

[hollow shadow]

Nice that you implemented the animation i suggested^^

[hollow shadow]

Theres also 3 animations for prying open stuff with crowbars (low, medium, high)

would be cool if the lockpicking / breaking open doors worked with regular doors and garage doors, while even using the animations

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/794998933431910421/798164887145676820/bandicam_2021-01-11_04-21-53-242.mp4

[tame mulch]

Ooooh

Thanks!

[nimble spoke]

@sour island I think I found the issue, these bugged items arein the farming module, not Base

so you're not overriding them correctly

that's why you edn up with 3 watering can items

instead of overriding famring.WateredCan you're creating Base.WateredCan, and thus creating the issue for the transition

[sour island]

I figured that out, but thank you

[snow drum]

what about lockpick doors mod?

[plucky nova]

@hollow shadow what model viewer are you using? and where can I get it?

[late hound]

It's Direct X Viewer.

Let me try to find where I got it

[late hound]

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=23549

[plucky nova]

thank you so much

wait how do I use it

nevermind

sorry lol

[hollow shadow]

There a way to change walking sounds depending on what clothing you wear'

or add a sound if the player is moving with certain clothing

[sour island]

unless the game already does it probably not

would be neat tho

[tame mulch]

In mod you can lockpick doors, unlock windows of building too

[snow drum]

release that shit cuz

[analog sandal]

no

[sour island]

floor have different sounds- perhaps you could make something hacky?

[analog sandal]

linked to tile definition

[hollow shadow]

Oof im very bad with sounds, in fact, most of the sounds from my mod are either from the internet, or from @analog sandal. You might ask him instead, he got the good stuff^^

[severe ridge]

yay, working

[sour island]

does anyone know where autodrinking in handled in the java?

[late hound]

is it not handled with ISDrinkFromBottle.lua?

[hollow shadow]

yo i just killed rick grimes, but i cant find him in the hit list?

[late hound]

He's part of the second batch, the newest zombies I've added. Updating the hitlist is another thing on my list to do.

[severe ridge]

nerf vests
vests gets buffed

https://tenor.com/view/fat-girl-table-flip-thow-table-gif-10010124

[carmine cosmos]

Are you still looking for this information?

[scenic oasis]

How do I make my UV unwrap? When I try to make a texture of it, it does not fit my model in game

[scenic oasis]

Nevermind, I figured it out

[muted grail]

wow imagine, you got a gang all armed up, with the joker-make-up of Ted Beer... my pants would be full

[scenic oasis]

Also, my texture now is inside out in game, but totally fine in vehicle editor. I have no idea how to fix it, I have been fighting that for 3 hours

Plz kill me

[carmine cosmos]

It's been a while since I worked with 3D modelling but did you try flipping your normals?

[sour island]

yeah, I am curious about something

[carmine cosmos]

In case you don't know what normals are, here is the first video I found on the topic:

https://youtu.be/lmMD9fV98Co

[carmine cosmos]

What exactly do you want to know?

[sour island]

how the function is called in game and if I could create an auto eat

[scenic oasis]

im doin it now

[carmine cosmos]

What exactly is auto-eating?

[sour island]

I wanted to see if it would be possible for players to eat favorited food items when idle for a bit- and hungry

Kind of like how players drink automatically all the time if they have a water filled item

[carmine cosmos]

They don't play the animation when they auto drink though 🤔

Did you want to animate it or just make it auto-magic (like auto-drinking)?

[sour island]

I know, I just was curious how the auto-drink function worked. I assume it's a timed loop check, or probably tied to thirst rising.

depending on what broke less things- but I would prefer the animation

[carmine cosmos]

Do you know how long it takes before the player auto drinks?

Will need to go in with a debugger to see how it works

[sour island]

I never see the thirst moodle, so I assume it's tied to that

I wouldn't know though

[scenic oasis]

@carmine cosmos DUDE, LET ME FUCKING BLOW YOU

IT WORKED

THANK YOU SO MUCH

IT TOOK ME 4 HOURS

[carmine cosmos]

Glad I could help!

Inverted normals are a very common problem, always make sure they are facing the right way

[scenic oasis]

I just love you

[sudden mauve]

What mods do you guys recommend and for what reasons?

[carmine cosmos]

One of the most essential mods out there:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2020740322

I don't have much mods installed though, so I would like to know more good mods as well

[sudden mauve]

Yes, that sounds important

i wanna look like a roblox character

I love heavy modded stuff so i found a bunch of cool mods and still am looking for others

[carmine cosmos]

@sour island I found out where auto-drinking is handled in code

[sour island]

😮

I've been looking in logical places, where was it

[carmine cosmos]

Gonna run a quick test with a bottle to explain to you how exactly it works

[carmine cosmos]

IsoGameCharacter#autoDrink()

[sour island]

o

I assumed iso stuff was only world stuff

[carmine cosmos]

IsoGameCharacter represents the character itself

It is not related to isometric perspective at all or the world

if (!(this.stats.thirst <= 0.1F)) {
    InventoryItem var1 = this.getWaterSource(this.getInventory().getItems());
    if (var1 != null) {
        Stats var10000 = this.stats;
        var10000.thirst -= 0.1F;
        if (GameClient.bClient) {
            GameClient.instance.drink((IsoPlayer)this, 0.1F);
        }
        var1.Use();
    }
    ...

Once the thirst level reaches 10% or more the thirst is completely removed

But only if there is a water source in inventory (such as a bottle filled with water)

[sour island]

and it get's use()'d

[carmine cosmos]

I am trying to find how the use() method works with water sources

[sour island]

water sources are items so it may be in there