it's less about te model and more about the physics of riding a bike
#mod_development
analog sandal
river quail
isnt possible to make using the same as a car?? i mean its a non existence mod so, dont need to be perfect, if runs is good enough
analog sandal
oh I was thinking more along the lines of getting pulled off or even seeing the player (animzed issues)
river quail
i mean, at least as a "beta" version you know, baby steps
analog sandal
would probably just be a car looking like a bike, but i@d love to see actual bikes myself
quick moth
Y u no play 41.49?
tame mulch
Problem - started sound in timed actions, but sound weird, stereo swap ear bug. How fix that?
analog sandal
most likely a mono sound, as most of the stuff in-game is downmixed into mono and then panned hard, got a recording of whatcha mean?
analog sandal
I mean if you have a recording of what it sounds in game bc it's hard for me to understand whatcha mean
analog sandal
do you have the sound set up as a 2d sound?
tame mulch
i use self.character:playSound("dropWater") in action when player in vehicle
late hound
It's a mod I've been wanting to make for a long while now. I present to you the go-to mod for realistic zombie spawns - Authentic Z
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2335368829
It's great for Late game zombie-hunting.
analog sandal
Aiteron, does it happen if you load other assets there?
tame mulch
yes
analog sandal
well my thought would be that it is due to the position of the "player" in the vehicle itself and the game hard-panning stuff like this regardless of position (same thing happens to radio and TV) so unless you use a different way to play the sound other than self.character, it will do this
abstract raptor
@late hound NICE
tame mulch
I did correct sound with this^ (getSoundManager():PlayWorldSoundWav("dropWater4", self.character:getSquare(), 0, 10, 1, true);)
analog sandal
yeah thats exactly what I meant -playworldsoundwav makes it into a 2d sound
with player it makes it 3d and sources it at player position but since this game doesn't rly have any 3d space to speak of, the engine gets confused with attentuation and panning
latent orchid
@magic summit not sure why this would happen....anything specific that might come to mind?
they are using my hobbies mod, but all my movable items are uniquely named
willow estuary
@latent orchid probably the number you have associated with your tiles?
hollow shadow
hollow shadow
analog sandal
very early car sound version
(also the strange slappy reverb is not me, that's the game doing that, can't be removed sadly)
tame mulch
How to damage the player? Sethealth not work
magic current
Any of you smart mofos know how to get the water amount from the code of a water container?
drifting ore
is there any good graphics mod ???
analog sandal
there is the healthier skin complexion and better females mod
analog sandal
yes that's the one I meant
but other than re-skins and texture mods there aren't any real graphic mods out there
drifting ore
i know its sad 😦
analog sandal
technical limitations
drifting ore
i was looking for a graphics mod for build 40
iron jackal
i think the workshop should be organised by category
like
Mods should have tags (vehicles, items,map,miscellaneous)
analog sandal
I don't personally think there are that many mods to warrant someone spending time on that
iron jackal
dude
the intire workshop would be way better
analog sandal
it would also be better if outdated mods were curated and removed but who are you gonna get to do that?
iron jackal
ok but like
Wich one is easyer to do
analog sandal
both about equal
iron jackal
dude
think about it for like 1 minute
one takes a lot of time on trying mods to see if they work
the other just as to ad tags to the workshop
analog sandal
I have given it thought, thanks
I was merely sharing my opinion, since I sense a somewhat hostile tone from your side I respectfully withdraw from the conversation, so let's agree to disagree?
iron jackal
sorry if i sounded hostile i was also sharing my opinion
and in my opinion the deletion of outdated mods is harder and requires mostly cooperation from the moders while the adding tags one is just an help from the devs since adding tags to the workshop would make mod browsing a litte better
and yeah i agree
covert summit
Can i use animations from All anims mod for... Defecation, for example? :) Or for some basic animations like sleepin on bed?
And all this with old save, not fresh.
covert summit
Kekeke, i think that game needs more movment and QoL things like this. But Defecation :D Just a nice start you know :D
Like in old good Sims Unleashed, when the character was a little censored when droppin some shitties
gaunt matrix
Bruh hahaha
analog sandal
the sound police is coming for you (sirens and car sounds done - all self-recorded here)
analog sandal
🥳
iron jackal
nothin' says law like bashing Zombies's skulls in
long grove
also if i recall right you said its impossible to add meta events?
you can only change existing ones?
analog sandal
regarding sounds? yes
long grove
damn, had an idea
analog sandal
what kinda idea?
long grove
adding car drive by noises, maybe sirens or even military fly bys as meta events
analog sandal
you could replace one of the distant gunshot or scream events with that
so that kinda thing is rather doable
long grove
yea, would be more interesting than the existing ones
analog sandal
sure would, it doesn't fit with my project as I try to stay vanilla+, so that my sounds are in the style of vanilla but actually not shit and can basically replace vanilla sounds, otherwise i'd be getting way more creative regarding a bunch of stuff
analog sandal
I'd be more than happy to see someone skilled step up to do that kinda stuff as I probablyh won't in the future as I'm just looking to be done with the game myself
I recorded my own car
long grove
cuz i feel i'd have to find free to use sound effects for this lol
analog sandal
I do have a 1TB licenced sound library but I only used it for 3 sounds so far, half the fun for me is proving that I can do it without any resources
my work reflects hundreds of hours recording and hundreds of hours mixing and designing rather than just DLing a sound and popping it in 🙂
long grove
it shows
i dont know anything about sound design so i'd have to do exactly that, just popping it in
analog sandal
there's nothing wrong with that approach when it comes to modding, but I'm a sound designer first and modder second so I've got a different set of habits 🙂 (I don't know a single thing about how PZ internals work in any other department other than sound for example)
long grove
how does modding sounds work past replacing sound files and maybe some names?
analog sandal
in PZ?
long grove
yea, im not exactly...an expert on modding
analog sandal
some sounds you can access through OpenAL and replace them freely (gun sounds for example), this comes with the downside that they don't sit well in the mix and are often cut off by the zombie death sounds or really any other sound that is played through FMOD
some sounds are inaccessible and cannot be modified because they are handled directly through fmod. After literal fucking months of trying to figure out how to reach them, I discovered a way (for example zombie sounds) and that sparked this entire project as it finally became possible to do a full overhaul of the entire audio side of PZ that I've been hankering to do since...last year I think? when going my route, the downside of being able to access and mod all the sounds in the game is that i cannot influence a final mixing layers the devs have in place that sometimes does ridiculously stupid stuff (cutting off specific frequencies, raising the volume 400% etc) so I gotta navigate around that and account for it using trial and error. another downside is that my samples can't be longer than vanilla ones, there can't be more or less of them and they must be named the same (this results in some hard-limits such as having to construct a honking sound out of a 0.5s sample which will always sound stupid)...on the bright side, I can replace everything 🙂
oh I should mention, FMOD is a sound engine developed by firelight studios that is very intuitive and wonderful to work with, but impossible to mod and inaccessible to the end user
that's why it's so much hassle to do on the modding side
long grove
so its replacing files and timing them exactly right
oof thats gonna suck as most meta events are short
analog sandal
some have a solid 5s of silence
you'd be very surprised at the ridiculous things hiding in the audio bowels of the game
long grove
to do a good drive by i'd probably need at the least 20
analog sandal
oh yeah that's not happening 😄
the whole thing suffers from an absolute lack of time to let things develop and play out
long grove
good thing i asked an expert first
shrewd grove
raven, i may ask you later how to edit car sounds... 😉
analog sandal
longest ambient sound is distscream3 at 17s
Hurley, the sounds are freely accessible and are in fact the easiest to mod, they're in media/sounds/newCar, whereas the zb_car_ are not used
shrewd grove
yeah, but i more or less mean what you did to change em
i tried before and didnt work at all
analog sandal
I made my own and then replaced em
long grove
even 17s is a bit too short...oh well
analog sandal
yeah but it's years in comparison to the 1s stuff 😄
long grove
like gunshots or what?
analog sandal
yeah or even some of the screams
distscream9 (which I'm unsure whether it's used at all) is 1s
long grove
i dont really keep track of them all
covert summit
Sound banks is locked forever? Right? I need to replace existing musics with soundtracks from some cool movies
Look, im dUd it once for dying light with QuickBMS extractor and fsb extractor. This is not so hard to cut your own tracks to make lenghts equal or little shorter and pack them back. You need to do 4 steps with different scripts, bat files, lol
wet dune
This may be a stupid question, but how would I make all zombies bald and with specific clothes?
I'm trying to make a pre-alpha zombie mos
The bald zombies with only a few colors
vestal ermine
Hi... i was wondering if there is a way to modify or add a tab in health panel by modding 🤔
is possible to mod the ui?
fallow lichen
I'm sure it is, but out of curiosity what is it would like? There may be already something similar if not a useful alternative.
fallow lichen
I don't think that'd be possible. I know there are some better sorting mods out there for the inventory that make it feel more optimal. Additionally there are some hotbar mods as well that allow you to place items into them.. perhaps that could in a way help you? I'm not certain but hopefully!
vestal ermine
mmmm..
indigo hound
there is the healthier skin complexion and better females mod
In the next update for Better Female, there will be changes to the eyes and skin color (the update will be after the release of Better Male)
analog sandal
Look, im dUd it once for dying light with QuickBMS extractor and fsb extractor. ...
music is accessible to my knowledge to everyone even without using my method
covert summit
Nope, its not. Just for listen, not for edits
analog sandal
you need FMOD bank tools utility
or
you can go through the LUA
I was originally pondering re-doing the entire soundtrack in addition to the SFX but in the end decided against it since it's too much work I'm not willing to invest for free into this anymore, but I was able to alter the music no problem
(if there's someone whos' actually been following my progress over here, I'm sorry for getting progressively more and more burnt out and jaded :D)
carmine cosmos
I was originally pondering re-doing the entire soundtrack in addition to the SFX...
The soundtrack is okay, but the SFX definitely need a rework, or at the very least re-balancing (opening bags and drinking is louder then smashing and hitting things)
analog sandal
well I'm almost done with the entirety of the SFX so there's that
(and I've reached the same conclusion as you, yooks, that's why I decided against doing the music too, there's nothing inherently wrong with it)
autumn yew
Yall know of a way to edit the line of sight so players can see more?
carmine cosmos
Yall know of a way to edit the line of sight so players can see more?
You mean extend the range at which the camera can be moved around?
autumn yew
Not persay moved but the initial view the player has
carmine cosmos
I thought the player line of sight was only limited by the camera 🤔
carmine cosmos
Not persay moved but the initial view the player has
From my understanding there are two ways you can do that:
- change how much the camera is allowed to move in each direction when panning
- change the maximum zoom level
autumn yew
where do i change the maximum zoom?
carmine cosmos
Gimme a second, I am reading the code right now
autumn yew
ok thanks man
wicked crane
Hold ctrl/right click and aim at edges of screen lel
(Jk)
Isn't eagle eye a perk
autumn yew
XD
carmine cosmos
if (var2.isVisible()) {
float var3 = IsoUtils.XToScreen(IsoPlayer.getInstance().getX(), IsoPlayer.getInstance().getY(), IsoPlayer.getInstance().getZ(), 0);
float var4 = IsoUtils.YToScreen(IsoPlayer.getInstance().getX(), IsoPlayer.getInstance().getY(), IsoPlayer.getInstance().getZ(), 0);
var3 = var3 - IsoCamera.getOffX() - IsoPlayer.getInstance().offsetX;
var4 = var4 - IsoCamera.getOffY() - IsoPlayer.getInstance().offsetY;
var4 -= (float)(128 / (2 / Core.TileScale));
var3 /= Core.getInstance().getZoom(var1);
var4 /= Core.getInstance().getZoom(var1);
var3 -= var2.width / 2.0F;
var4 -= var2.height;
IsoPlayer var5 = IsoPlayer.players[var1];
if (var5 != null && var5.getUserNameHeight() > 0) {
var4 -= (float)(var5.getUserNameHeight() + 2);
}
var2.setX((double)var3);
var2.setY((double)var4);
}```A lot of convoluted code like that 😄
autumn yew
XD
carmine cosmos
Ah okay found it
public float getMaxZoom() {
return this.OffscreenBuffer != null ? this.OffscreenBuffer.getMaxZoom() * ((float)TileScale / 2.0F) : 1.0F;
}```Location of that code?
carmine cosmos
That's in Core so you would call that method with Core.getInstance().getMaxZoom()
autumn yew
Core a folder or what?
carmine cosmos
These are the default zoom levels:
new float[]{2.5F, 2.25F, 2.0F, 1.75F, 1.5F, 1.25F, 1.0F, 0.75F, 0.5F};
Core is a class in zombie.core package
It is exposed so you should be able to reach it with Lua
autumn yew
So PZ game folder> Zombie Folder> core?
carmine cosmos
The way to do it from Java is through
MultiTextureFBO2#setZoomLevelsFromOption(String var1)
But MultiTextureFBO2 class is not exposed so you might be out of luck
autumn yew
ah
carmine cosmos
Note that this is just from a short search, there still might be a way to do it
autumn yew
ok thats fine man. If you find anything just let me know.
hollow shadow
Someone make a mod where u can zoom out further if you are on a tall building @carmine cosmos
carmine cosmos
Someone make a mod where u can zoom out further if you are on a tall building <@...
Could you provide a link to this mod?
hollow shadow
Could you provide a link to this mod?
That was a suggestion, sorry for my bad english xD
wet dune
how would I make all zombies bald?
nimble spoke
There is a lua file that controls hair styles for zombies
HairOutfitDefinitions.lua in the shared folder
nimble spoke
I think you can probably remove the definitions you don't need and make it start with bald 100%
There are different ways to define them in the file, some hair styles for example only show after some time into the apocalypse
you can remove those
wet dune
what about outfits?
nimble spoke
Keep in mind this comment -- the haircuts in ZombiesZoneDefinitions take precedence over this! means that you can't override everything with this file only
nimble spoke
for outfits you can create your own and simply take over ZombiesZoneDefinition and only spawn your own, if you do that you can probably define the hair there too and forget the hairoutfit file
wet dune
how would I create a outfit? sorry if I'm asking alot.
nimble spoke
you need to add a clothing.xml to your mod, find that file in PZ's folder to check the right folder, copy it and then change to your needs
nimble spoke
Should be easy to do
loud dagger
I got a question about sleep code on build 40
if isClient() and getServerOptions():getBoolean("SleepAllowed") then
playerObj:setAsleepTime(0.0)
playerObj:setAsleep(true)
UIManager.setFadeBeforeUI(player, true)
UIManager.FadeOut(player, 1)
return
end```doesn't this if statement return early?
if so, what's the point of all the code below, is that ran by the server?
loud dagger
I see thanks
wet dune
is it possible to change the zombie sounds?
fallow lichen
is it possible to change the zombie sounds?
I believe so. Someone has recently shown video of altering the character's sound made when screaming. Meaning that likely somewhere it is possible surely to alter sounds the zombies make.
I think most just haven't done it as audio production is often something you want to perfect which is harder than believed.
river wigeon
is it possible to get a mini map within a map mod ?
fallow lichen
Mmn.. Maybe? Do you have a mini map mod right now?
river wigeon
i got nothing modding isnt my thing but coding perhaps
fallow lichen
There are mini map mods. My theory is that they might just load the cells y ou are in. Perhaps attempting to download one and teleporting/spawning at one of these locations may be the proper trial and error approach if no one answered you by now
analog sandal
is it possible to change the zombie sounds?
yes and no. some of them can be freely changed and some of them have until recently been totally inaccessible but I've figured out a way and am in fact preparing a project which replaces all the sounds in pz with self made ones
carmine cosmos
@autumn yew There are zoom options in option files, although I was not able to make them work (changing them seems to reset them sometimes and doesn't seem to affect zoom, although I could be doing something else wrong). If anyone knows more about these options feel free to chime in:
zoomLevels1x=400;350;300;250;150;100
zoomLevels2x=500;450;400;350;300;250;150;100
long grove
wait so scrap weapons lets you turn useless items into spears? nice
hollow shadow
yes
hollow shadow
wait so scrap weapons lets you turn useless items into spears? nice
you dont need that mod if you already got scrap weapons
scenic coral
i like scrap weapons but there's definitely a needed nerf with the damage from the salvaged spear, cause i found one on a zed at half durability and it just broke after a month, while also having max damage
drifting ore
In hydrocraft mod is there anything besided gas can that i can use to siphon gas from the vehicle?
analog sandal
there's the prison challenge that does exactly this
yeah this is already encompassed in a mod
it's one of pillow's mods, when you select the profession of officer you will spawn as a guard
analog sandal
1 single sound needs doing (waiting for a prop) and then it's ALL DONE
scenic coral
are you doing a sound overhaul?
willow estuary
analog sandal
are you doing a sound overhaul?
I've replaced every single sound you can hear in pz with self recorded sound (for a few notable exceptions I used a library I have licensed)
carmine cosmos
Good morning @analog sandal 👋
analog sandal
morning mate
abstract raptor
@willow estuary LMFAO that's a trailer park boys reference
"Fuck off. I got work to do."
Cyrus I think his name is
cunning canyon
I'm trying to override the emergency broadcast text. I've been able to poke around the Lua and checked out the OnDeviceText, but can't figure out how to actually make the radio text say something different. Any ideas?
fallow lichen
Mod Suggestion: For those who are illiterate would anyone think it to be possible to mod in a way for another player to actually read out loud/read to someone?
cunning canyon
what about books on tape?
fallow lichen
I like that idea too. Someone already has a VHS mod where you could find shows to rewatch
cunning canyon
love that mod
analog sandal
The Lusty Argonian Maid
-read by Sir Ian McKellen-
abstract raptor
@cunning canyon I know where you can change that text
cunning canyon
Oh that would be excellent!
abstract raptor
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\shared\Translate\EN\DynamicRadio_EN
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\lua\server\radio\ISWeatherChannel.lua
cunning canyon
ah I see, i'm interested in changing it at runtime though
is there a way
I can override one of the methods in ISWeatherChannel.lua?
abstract raptor
Those two files handle it
I'm currently planning on toying with the VHS mod files to make it so my new skill shows on survivor radio also work with it
There's a directory in there where it calls to a broadcast key
so adding new tapes is as easy as making a new broadcast in Wordzed
Would like to make a new system like maybe a audio cassette player
cunning canyon
that's cool!
echo roost
cunning canyon
So @abstract raptor I have a kinda basic question, if I wanted to override the logic in ISWeatherChannel.lua how would I go about that?
I'm not sure how to get a reference to the WeatherChannel table, if that's even how i'd go about replacing the function
abstract raptor
not sure I'd have to look at the file and do modding stuff
X_X
but my brain is le tired
cunning canyon
no worries, i'll mess around with it myself some more
seems like if i follow it up the call stack some more there's an event a
an event I can mess with*
analog sandal
the final sound
obsidian sundial
@analog sandal how is my friend ..... how is your beautiful mod
analog sandal
this is literally the last sound I need to make - the car skidding, the project will be released by the end of this week and will cover every single thing you can hear in PZ and a few of those you currently can't
entirely done using that hot water bottle
obsidian sundial
holy shit, this is amazing dude
analog sandal
happy you like it 🙂
Foley is king in these kinda games
though I love designing spells and scifi stuff and creatures the most
obsidian sundial
science fiction is the best for me 😄
when you are ready, let me know please
I'm dying to test this
analog sandal
will do 🙂 I'll post a short teaser with the cars later today too
and then i'll rid myself of this ball and chain of a project that I started 😄
obsidian sundial
😆
analog sandal
that is...until an official sound rework comes, then I'm back at it again, delivering even better samples
obsidian sundial
this is your first job in the game sound mod?
analog sandal
whatcha mean
obsidian sundial
if it's the first time you've made mods for games like that
analog sandal
nope, I doubt anyone would be able to do this on their first go-around
hollow shadow
analog sandal
and that's a wrap
analog sandal
the final number of the sounds replaced is around 600
obsidian sundial
very good guy
late hound
👍
torn stream
Niiice
tame mulch
I created a tool to make mod development easier.. Some useful tools - dynamically value inspector, custom lua files reloader menu, small debug panel
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2340608427
hollow shadow
How can i add sounds for equiping or unequiping certain weapons?
turbid gale
Finally fixed my M113 from being invisible
now time to make some more complex features so it's balanced a bit better...
unkempt maple
Does anyone know of any animal mods?
analog sandal
not for b41
unkempt maple
What about pre b41
cunning canyon
Ah yes, I finally figured out how to override some methods
I was unable to override just 1 method from the ISWeatherChannel.lua file, which confused me
I assume I'm doing something wrong
analog sandal
there's hydrocraft and I think some barebones hunting mod
but none that adds animals as moving and "living" entities
cunning canyon
If I want to store some stateful data in the game save, uh, how do I go about that?
I'm assuming I hook onto the OnSave event, but I'd love a snippet for what id do inside that
cunning canyon
Nevermind, discovered ModData
unkempt maple
but none that adds animals as moving and "living" entities
Will there ever be such a thing? How hard would it be to achieve that.
analog sandal
the devs are working on animals for the next big update once multiplayer goes live
unkempt maple
Oooh nice :3
cunning canyon
Lets say I want to schedule an event X hours in the future, is there a helper method on gameTime that would help me with that? I'm trying to avoid calculating how many days are in a month and such
I just need to get the current time + some hours and let it tell me what day / month / time that would be
I can listen and trigger the event myself once I know
Happy to use ticks if there's a way to find out given the current game settings how many ticks there are per hour
abstract raptor
Spacewoot keep me posted
cunning canyon
If I find an answer? Or am I asking too many dumb question XD
I don't see a definitive place for documentation like there was with Gmod's lua stuff
analog sandal
I think we had this discussion like last weke here
analog sandal
that it'd probably at most be a car that looks like a bike with no player visible on it
no pull-down mechanics either
ivory lance
Yeah, I wonder if that would be possible to make in build 42
From what I know in build 42 we get visible player in the car, animations of getting into car etc
cunning canyon
tbh i'd settle for a bicycle
undone elbow
How modData works exactly over the network?
Let's say I saved 1Kb to GameTime. Does the game transfer this 1Kb every tick? Every second? May be the game will never transfer it again from/to clients until I change it again?
Then I saved one more byte to GameTime in different property. ```lua
:getModData().one_more_byte = "x";
So there are 1025 bytes now. Does the game transfer from/to clients only 1 byte or all 1025 bytes?
shrewd crater
Any mod recommendations?
abstract raptor
Survivor Radio 😛
pearl marsh
analog sandal
my complete audio rework goes live tomorrow so if you don't like the pz vanilla sfx look out for that on this channel
hollow shadow
Scrap weapons / Guns mod :v
cunning canyon
@undone elbow no idea but would love to know
fallow lichen
Is anyone here familiar with Nitrado and modding on their servers?
hollow shadow
Anyone know how to script the gun attachments?
carmine cosmos
How modData works exactly over the network?
Let's say I saved 1Kb to GameTime. ...
I could run a quick test to check that out for you
So just to be clear, you want to know how often the KahluaTable that holds mod data (retrieved via GameTime#getModData()) is synced with client, right?
analog sandal
the trailer is uploading, says one more hour
I may have alright Audio gearr, but my internet sucks
tame mulch
------- 20k Aniversary Better Towing Mod Update! ---------
- Better flip upright car - now with correct direction after
- Returned in new way ability to push car by hands (now by context menu)
- Added Italian language
cunning canyon
Flip cars by hand... Italian support...
🤌🤌 🚘
hollow shadow
late hound
hollow shadow
Lol how did you make invisible character?
slender chasm
hey guys, i want to edit some textures in the game. like change the color to a single jacket with a certain design on it and also maybe play around with the zed faces, i noticed a new mod on steam of 28weeks later and it gave me some inspiration. i just dont know how to access the image files to edit them and whatnot. would anyone mind helping??
analog sandal
the moment some of you may have lukewarmly awaiting is here. Since i'll be out recording new year bangs tomorrow, i decided to finish 2020 with a bang of my own. Ultimate Sound Overhaul - Complete (USOC) replaces every single sound in Project Zomboid with high quality, hand-crafted, self-recorded samples. come and get it
https://youtu.be/1xeG3fzv7S4
mint sphinx
when you make a recipe can you make more then one result? like give you 2 different items ?
cunning canyon
@analog sandal yoooooo
that's amazing!!!!
the weather affects are my fave
effects, whatever
oh wait no it might be the cars
slender chasm
does anyone mind helping me out with editing a couple textures? i dont know how to mod these and am in a little need of assistance
analog sandal
yes I did
just to add that extra bit of flaire 😄
it's all in the readme, but no, the guns i did not record myself, I can't get guns where I live
the cars and drifts I did record myself though 😛
well
most of the stuff
the guns are some of the small exceptions I literally couldn't record
slender chasm
can you guys direct me to someone who knows how to edit textures?
analog sandal
i got them from a free resource that's linked in the readme
my purchased libraryt didn't have good gun sounds
and I don't do realistic gun sounds too often to warrant buying the boom lib
that's not how I made em :
)
analog sandal
yeah a lot of Foley I had to make
cunning canyon
no, like, the art of sitting around and smashing water melons to make head cracking sounds
LOL
WAS IT YOU?
analog sandal
I was able to locate a nest for the birds
for example, the wolf and owl sounds are me just imitating into the mic
of course, all the samples are edited and processed, that's the nature of the sound design biz
the drifting sounds are me sliding a hot-water bottle over the floor for example
slender chasm
does anyone have 5 minutes to spare?
analog sandal
uhm...ok so for example for the generator sound I used a sewing machine
slender chasm
who might they be? i dont know who id be looking for
ohh okay i understand
thanks
analog sandal
oh it was, I had to match the exact length and beats of the vanilla sounds, my gf had more fun dubbing the female zombies than I had 😄
my gf did the female, it says so in the readme
not all the files are separated into M and F, some of them are just pitched tbh
i duno why the devs did it that way
but I can't influence the asset organization they had
slender chasm
how do i message them? ive gone to profiles and i cant find a direct message
ohhhhh shit okay
slender chasm
i apologize, sincerely. im just new and shy
cunning canyon
No worries Dead, this channel is a bit asyncronous with help, lots of folks are only looking at it once a day
azure dock
Who else has seen this?
slender chasm
for sure, i appreciate the info ❤️
analog sandal
yup, i posted this here as well a bit ago 🙂
late hound
@slender chasm I can help you after I get off of work! HMU in dms
slender chasm
<@!627771871718539274> I can help you after I get off of work! HMU in dms
ooohhhh! thank you!
azure dock
@analog sandal I'm going to give it an install.
analog sandal
sure thing 🙂 I hope you like it
hollow shadow
I wish there was sounds for climbing over Fences / chainlink fences it would be realy immersive
analog sandal
I wish so as well
and like several hundred other things that I have made and are not used in the game 😄
like snow footsteps maybe
or rivers making sound
carmine cosmos
and like several hundred other things that I have made and are not used in the g...
Do you have a list of those things?
analog sandal
just off the top of my head 🙂
carmine cosmos
Alright, I just assumed that you had a list since you said you made sounds for those events
analog sandal
oh for the ones that are unused? yeah I know them
not in writing
but just off the top - multi-instrument layering for foosteps, rivers making sounds, surface recognition based on surface type and boot (hooking into the stomp power variable), proper zombie gendering, more varieties on a lot of things, ambient tracks based on time of year/time of day + variety/randomization, utilising some of the panting and out of breath sounds for survivors, zombie hit sounds not playing on gunshots
carmine cosmos
I can see a lot of those being quite moddable
analog sandal
I can't
these things are handled in FMOD
as we spoke about, at this point we're doing gamedev and it's a whole lotta work, while technically it might be possible
but if you ever do figure it out, man I'd love to pop my assets in that
carmine cosmos
Hmm.. can't you just play those sounds like you would play music in-game?
carmine cosmos
Why not, is it a performance issue or something else?
Perhaps the format of the sound is not excepted by standard play methods 🤔
analog sandal
because they implemented it through fmod
you can pop in a bunch of sounds through openAL (gunshots for example), but you will get 2 quite serious bugs
carmine cosmos
I would need to find where exactly in code are these sounds delegated to FMOD
analog sandal
ProjectZomboid/fmod folder
carmine cosmos
Because the system for playing those sounds must be there and working, otherwise no game sounds would play, so it's just a matter of how to we get our sounds to play using that system
carmine cosmos
I can see the FMOD package here but it's pretty big
analog sandal
and thus create new emitters and the entire audio side basically
if we were to get at this we wold have to reimplement the entire audio system
carmine cosmos
Perhaps not, I would just need more info on how it works
From what I can see the wav files are not packed into some special formats or anything
They are literally referenced in a file and then loaded in game through I guess this FMOD system
analog sandal
which wav files
carmine cosmos
Why would we need to re-implement the entire audio system?
analog sandal
because the game does not read any of the wav files in media/sound
carmine cosmos
I think I am seriously misunderstanding something here 🤔
analog sandal
those are just unused there
the files the game does read are hidden in PZ/media/sound/banks/desktop
carmine cosmos
Ah I see, I am looking at the rar you gave me
And those banks here I assume are overriding the vanilla banks
analog sandal
yeah
carmine cosmos
Looks more complicated then I thought, but I seriously doubt it would require us to re-implement the whole audio system. The problem however (as with most things) will be that we will be unable to properly interact with FMOD and change how it works due to key parts not being exposed to Lua side
analog sandal
yep
carmine cosmos
We come back to the need for that API
analog sandal
I can do the entire FMOD side of things no problem but I dont have any experience with implementing it in JAVA based systems
were it to be unity or UE4, we'd be rolling
carmine cosmos
Well if I were to expose the needed elements to you, you would be able to do your thing
Would first need to figure out how exactly does it read the audio from the banks
cunning canyon
I kinda skimmed the last conversation but I figured that was the case @analog sandal
when watching your trailer I saw a million things that I was like "wish we had hooks for playing sounds at that moment"
cunning canyon
it already is
analog sandal
no it wont
cunning canyon
wait
analog sandal
it won't be on the steam workshop
analog sandal
it's radically more complicated than that, I am the first to figure out how to change all the files including footsteps and zombies
but we can't add new ones still
carmine cosmos
The FMODSoundBank is exposed to Lua
analog sandal
yeah but the event files aren't to my knowledge
carmine cosmos
So is FMODAudio and FMODSoundEmitter
analog sandal
oh i did not know those were
something else we missing? how come no one came before us with this
carmine cosmos
I am telling you, it might be easier then you think
You just have to have faith 🙂
analog sandal
im no coder so if you figure it out, lemme know? 🙂
carmine cosmos
Yes, but could you at least help me out by telling me what's in the banks?
cunning canyon
Sounds like some synergy between code folks and audio folks would be rad
I only just started modding this game like two days ago lmao
late hound
@cunning canyon If you got any questions about modding, don't hesitate to ask here!
cunning canyon
Thanks @late hound !
Currently working on a mod to make the automated broadcast system fail -- requiring you to go to certain locations with supplies to repair it
It's been a hot min since I've worked with lua, but it's coming back to me 😂
eternal stirrup
i like where Raven's and yooks' conversation is going
frail brook
Hello, everyone and happy new year to you all. I' was planning releasing a mod before 2021 but, sadly my in-existing coding skills put me down. I'm working on large scale mod... aimed to bring S.T.A.L.K.E.R and EFT vibe to PZ. including "authenthicc" (mid 90's) food, clothing and weapons (with custom 3d models, icons, sounds.). Mod has no super modern guns, anti-material rifles or something extremely out of theme. The thing is... I'm totally unfamiliar with lua. Can't do shit apart from adding new items/distributions/recipes.... I need help with attachments. I would like to implement the customization system very similar to one in Harry's Better Vanilla weapons mod.
cunning canyon
Items look sicc
eternal stirrup
ah yiiis, finally some cool AKs
analog sandal
will you be making custom sounds with that or will they use vanilla?
frail brook
will you be making custom sounds with that or will they use vanilla?
custom
analog sandal
ah ok, that's unfortunate, still, looking fwd to the guns
analog sandal
yeah I just don't like the audio bugs that come from custom gun sounds
but the models look super cool
frail brook
really?
I didn't really test them all. Still stored in my sound folder, either raw mp4 or in wav format. I can switch to vanilla sounds easily, to
analog sandal
the assets can sound fine, it's an engine thing, if you shoot while walking for example, the sound rapidly jumps from left to right hard pan, when you kill a z the zombie death sounds sometimes cuts off the gunshot sound, killing reverb and pretty much all of the body
it's not a problem per se, it's just a pet peeve
frail brook
thanks, guys. Models are actually pretty low poly. I did cut corners a lot and optimized them for PZ shaders and vertical camera angle I guess..
hollow shadow
Hello, everyone and happy new year to you all. I' was planning releasing a mod ...
Lol CaptainPrice were on the same level, if you need help with some scripts im willing to help you out :>
As for the attachments, im waiting for the devs to update that upgrade system, i heard they are making a newer one which will be easier to make
frail brook
Lol CaptainPrice were on the same level, if you need help with some scripts im w...
cool. I just found this server today.
analog sandal
welcome in that case
frail brook
Yeah, I really need a hand there.
hollow shadow
oh lol i was thinking about making a scrappy tec9
What did you use to texture the models?
hollow shadow
Lol i never figured out how to use those 2, i handpainted all my stuff with blender x/
how much time did it take you to make a model with texture?
severe ridge
i photoshop lwl
severe ridge
x) not really, its a shared account lmao
but i use photoshop for a lifetime already :l
analog sandal
"shared"
frail brook
So i'm quick at making metal textures.
frail brook
x) not really, its a shared account lmao
subscription makes me hate adobe. And their shortcuts.... It's not even same on their own titles...
severe ridge
i got used to the whole thing 😅 its a curse
hollow shadow
Ah yep
i tried to keep it down with the amount of faces :I
last time a fuse of my pipe bomb had more faces than 20 character models
but the gun itself looks great ingame, im proud of meself
frail brook
did you add those tapes as mesh?
hollow shadow
its more difficult
- sometimes i did my UV map wrong and then u can see each pixel
i also cant draw straight lines
frail brook
I'm planning to add little details later
hollow shadow
look at the jiggly lines on the magazine
eventually i got them in the perfect curve so they would look OK ingame
severe ridge
200kb+ textures in PZ can look like 4K ULTRA 1080p (and not really useful ): )
100kb is a good max target for weapons /hmm
frail brook
i'm planning to add double mags... taped with blue duct tape. Increasing reload speed
frail brook
200kb+ textures in PZ can look like 4K ULTRA 1080p (and not really useful ): )
I actually optimized my models. 256x256 res for 1080p + and 128x128 res for sub 1080 displats. It eliminates artifacts and jagged lines.
hollow shadow
yeah im not sure how attachments work yet, i tried to add a sight to my pumpy 3 days ago but i couldnt even get it to attach
severe ridge
nah, my models are guccy
frail brook
anything with bigger res is unnecessary and just waste of resources. I make my models in 2k res then export as 128x128 and 256x256. Tested results on large 1080p and 15 inch 768p monitor. Higher res literally doesn't make any difference.
and my models have rust and grunges around corners... color variation on barrels. Literally no difference
a little teaser from food part. There still a lot saved for release.
long grove
sasug
frail brook
I would call it kielbasa/kolbasa. (
long grove
sorry, just making small joke
frail brook
Was it reference to Radal's sosig?
long grove
no...i just picked it up long ago from somewhere, got knows when/where
frail brook
yeah. I didn't get it. There was no need for apology mate. Western people call it sausage in general.
frail brook
As for the attachments, im waiting for the devs to update that upgrade system, i...
hey, mate . Do you think we can make my makeshift flamethrower work? I don't really know your scripting skill level, but i have general idea on how it can work.
hollow shadow
I think it needs alot of lua coding
frail brook
damn lua
hollow shadow
@severe ridge made a grenade launcher i think
severe ridge
yeah
hollow shadow
maybe you could reskin it and make it throw some kinda flame grenades
frail brook
it requires a backpack
long grove
hydrocraft had a flamethrower
hollow shadow
Making backpack models isnt possible afaik
long grove
so you could see if that code is salvagable
hollow shadow
they can be reskinned tho
severe ridge
i made the weapon, arsenal implemented additional code so me and brita use it
hollow shadow
me and mayrum are trying to make a jerry can backpack lmao
severe ridge
not bad
hollow shadow
frail brook
I mean it's a lot of work. It would require a visible backpack that functions as gas /fuel storage . and somehow is linked to gun.
hollow shadow
but it also needs lua code becouse of fluids
@severe ridge how did you make teh straps on your paramedic bag?
frail brook
I think making flamethrower from liquid would require a lot of engineering. It's easier to apply a little pressure and shot gas instead of heavy liquids.
I think he wrapped it around.
then soldified the straps
hollow shadow
nah i dont mean that, when you make a backpack then the straps that go arround shoulder arent synced with the shoulder movement of your character, thats why i havent made backpack mods yet
long grove
i think the better belts guy wanted to do this?
frail brook
backpack mods are pain in ass. Anything that required manual updates on Guid table.
hollow shadow
i made all the models in better belts
thats been removed, you no longer need guidtables
long grove
oh wow, didnt know
frail brook
since when?
hollow shadow
idk
severe ridge
since 41.47 i guess
hollow shadow
can any of you read this? im trying to make ma workbench a moveable furniture object which is needed for crafting
frail brook
since 41.47 i guess
so we can make backpacks as easy as some other items. I tried to look into your mod structure but lua scripts and constant manual updates scared me.
hollow shadow
its not as easy as making weapons
severe ridge
nah, no need for that
hollow shadow
pretty sure
severe ridge
swatpack last update was a long time ago but the guitable was in the right place, that's why it kinda works still
hollow shadow
pawlow made knight armor, i still get headache trying to make scrap armor
severe ridge
most of my stuff is just retexture :B
hollow shadow
hollow shadow
most of my stuff is just retexture :B
I tried to retexture the hazmat suit, the result is above 🙂
frail brook
pawlow made knight armor, i still get headache trying to make scrap armor
yeah , i also have made 2-3 of them. inspired from Fallout and dying light
hollow shadow
YOU MADE ARMORS?
hollow shadow
eh?
severe ridge
just need the boring export/import script and put into place :B
but we still don't have rigged models ):
hollow shadow
yeah i can import / export .x/.obj
frail brook
YOU MADE ARMORS?
yes. Metal plate armor and wooden armor... also thinking of Rubber armor
hollow shadow
can i see?
frail brook
gotta sort out my old saves.
it's a total mess
i can send it after new year. and if you think you can make armors work. then you can add my models too
hollow shadow
if they are reskins from exisiting project zomboid clothing then they will work
frail brook
if they are reskins from exisiting project zomboid clothing then they will work
no, they are just independent models... with seperate meshes. I think You could copy animation and skeleton from base models
severe ridge
if you got the right software you can export/import everything nicely
frail brook
if they are reskins from exisiting project zomboid clothing then they will work
no worries. I wish they had better mod support.
frail brook
if you got the right software you can export/import everything nicely
.x is pain in ass
hollow shadow
.x is pain in ass
did you get some of the guns already fully working ingame?
frail brook
did you get some of the guns already fully working ingame?
Because it was promising when devs started to pz
10 years ago, microsoft was heavily bragging on .x
shrewd grove
.x is pain in ass
cars are i think the only ingame thing that work with .fbx directly
frail brook
did you get some of the guns already fully working ingame?
yeah, replaced vanilla weapons. Food is working mod tho.
cunning canyon
god, ten years ago I think XNA was still a thing
hollow shadow
yeah, replaced vanilla weapons. Food is working mod tho.
Ye replaced the vanilla weapons? you didnt add them?
frail brook
Ye replaced the vanilla weapons? you didnt add them?
it's not that hard.
Just time consuming
hollow shadow
it's not that hard.
Yeah i know, but dont you rather want to add them instead of replace existing content?
frail brook
Yeah i know, but dont you rather want to add them instead of replace existing co...
no i replaced vanilla .x and textures (like assaultgun.x ) and tested my guns.
to see if anything is wrong with colors or mesh overall
hollow shadow
ah i see
frail brook
I mean all the guns are going to be based on vanilla m16/m14.
hollow shadow
i would probably use your mod, i can help you with some boring scripts if you want
frail brook
I mean just copy their stats and modify for your needs
frail brook
i would probably use your mod, i can help you with some boring scripts if you wa...
I think I did research on 7.62 and overall gun stats and would be better of if i set the values. i'hev not really made my mind how can I introduce ak's to lore. As secret Russian/Soviet soldeirs that pop out of nowhere... or something else... and also I want to make civilian versions with selective fire only.
Boring scripts you mean , distribution tables?
hollow shadow
oh you do you already have the tool for setting distribution tables?
its realy cool
frail brook
Yeah. Food is functional as I stated. I use visual studio
hollow shadow
You used itemzed?
frail brook
Is itemzed necessary?
hollow shadow
Nope, but i promise you it will make setting distributions for your items a ton easier
frail brook
because i did it manually and custom sound+values all worked as intednded
hollow shadow
hollow shadow
oh one second
i recommend making a copy of your entire mod folder before you use it, it will move your script stuff
when ur done u can just take the distributions lua code u get and put it in your original folder
frail brook
i do always get backups as .rar
so i have got like 10+ backups ... lol
I lost my previous mod.
hollow shadow
yea
frail brook
i also found a way to make bayonets useable
i wouldn't really risk my gun as bayonet in post apo event. But cool feature
frail brook
oof
would you mind to accept my friend request. So I can remember whenever I came up with idea that we can do togather. I sometimes forget to check discord for days
hollow shadow
alright
hollow shadow
would you mind to accept my friend request. So I can remember whenever I came up...
If you want to make grenades i can also help you
frail brook
Okay. I'll tell you as soon as I make the model. It's gonna take like an hour at most. F1 and the american one
can you also make claymore?
claymore mine ofc.
I think i have a model for that laying around.
hollow shadow
Would be amazing to make zombie traps, i believe it needs alot of lua coding becouse zombie traps dont exist in vanilla yet
cunning canyon
God I feel silly, how do I delete an item from a users inventory?
it's not obvious to me how this is done
wait think I found it
frail brook
so you could see if that code is salvagable
about that... hydocraft is really old and i' m in no condition to scrap it.
I don't want to make mods for b 40. Didn't play on it since the 41 got into release.
long grove
well yea...just saying its been made before
frail brook
i'm pretty sure we have guys that can make it work. I mean there is a plane and boat mod. not that hard. Just need to modifit molotov's damage type/behaviour and makeit contunious. Sounds pretty lua to me.
shrewd crater
any recommended b40 mods other then hydrocraft and orgm?
lapis perch
I think in hydrocraft there needs to be a text played similar to when your sick and you cough, when you have a war dog in your hand. Like "Bark! Bark!"
There's no 3d model for it so no way to tell him someone has a wardog on them
cunning canyon
When I remove a weapon from the player's inventory while its equiped, their character model still shows them holding it, any idea how to fix that?
I assume there must be some event like "OnClothingUpdated" for weapons, but I can't find it
severe ridge
that sad revolver from fallout 3 lel
hollow shadow
GlassShiv
severe ridge
toothbrush shiv wouldn't be a bad idea either xP
hollow shadow
toothbrush shiv wouldn't be a bad idea either xP
are those vanilla? i mean the toothbrushes, i saw shivs in hydrocraft alrdy
hollow shadow
https://pzwiki.net/w/images/a/a2/Toothbrush.png
Paw, do u want to make icon for my glass Knoif?
severe ridge
ill try
im working with better masking for my sets
so you can wear hoodies/sweater with the whole armour and they wont clip :p
@hollow shadow something like (?)
there's transparency on the glass 😆
graphic design is my passion 
hollow shadow
<@!414507574516383747> something like (?)
Oh lol i ended up making one myself yesterday, lets compare them
HMM
i think urs is better
severe ridge
more detailed and less shaded 🤷 you can pick any and will do good
hollow shadow
more detailed and less shaded 🤷 you can pick any and will do good
I wonder how good you could make a spear icon :v
severe ridge
try focusing on the blade part
you dont have to fit the whole weapon
otherwise they will look like most modded big guns icons, just black lines xP
hollow shadow
try focusing on the blade part
can u mek it pls :v you make so good icons
severe ridge
it's just a resizing + pixel art thing 😛
hollow shadow
i know resizing too, but when you make it it looks better
this is m y shity icon for my salvaged spear
severe ridge
spëër
hollow shadow
severe ridge
it's good, same idea
lilac night
How the fuck does Paw work so fast
hollow shadow
cunning canyon
I know nothing of climbing, what are the little Frankenstein bolts on the handle for?
But I love the idea of having a climbing pick thingy
Would go well with crampon boots that do extra curb stomp damage
(Idk if that’s what spiked boots are called lmao)
hollow shadow
the "little Frankenstein bolts" is there so you dont lose grip of the weapon 🙂
cunning canyon
ahhh
cunning canyon
Anyone know either of the following:
- How to add options to the sandbox screen for my mod
- A mod that does something like this in the workshop so I can see what they're doing? 🤓
I think I found #2
undone elbow
So just to be clear, you want to know how often the `KahluaTable` that holds mod...
Yes. I'd like to know how much and how often the game sends data via network, so I could optimize my code.
For example, common task is to save large amount of data related to the world into save, and only part of this data need to be synced between server and clients.
Thank you in advance. 🙂 Anyway this will be very useful info in general.
cunning canyon
Oh my, how convenient, I had a question about your Mod Options thing @undone elbow ... I'm trying to add some options for my mod, but I don't see the options when I try to make a solo game (using build 41 IWBUMS)
I have my options snippet in shared, is there anything I'm doing wrong? Is only client side options supported at the moment?
The options are getting retrieved properly in game, fyi
I just don't see them in the custom sandbox options window
ohhh
its not in the sandbox settings
its in the esc menu
ok interesting...
undone elbow
Yes)
cunning canyon
Is there a way with your mod to set ones in the sandbox options area before starting a game?
undone elbow
Thank you for reminding. I wanted to make custom sandbox options in the next step.
cunning canyon
Hahaha, that'd be awesome 🙏
Yeah I'm not going to mess with trying it myself, if you could ping me when you add that support I would love to know 🤗
The way you added esc menu options is very clean tho, I like it a lot, very unobtrusive!
wicked crane
Does anyone else get script error from Hoodies? I wear it up or down and get error.
hollow shadow
Does anyone else get script error from Hoodies? I wear it up or down and get error.
@wicked crane yep I get it too, I assume it’s not a mod bug
wicked crane
It must be, I don't get with all disabled . I just don't know what's messing with the hoodie code. I'll have to check my logs later, it must be from mod we both use.
abstract raptor
carmine cosmos
Yes. I'd like to know how much and how often the game sends data via network, so...
Okay, just give me a test mod package (complete mod I can run) that pings the network from a method via some file sharing service, and I will run it through the JVM debugger and try to find out for you. I have only done client mods for now and don't have time to setup a test suite for this case.
snow pendant
Hey all, have a quick question. How much under the hood stuff is open to modding in the game in regards to health systems/food systems?
carmine cosmos
@snow pendant You will have to de-compile the game and see for yourself
There is also the online API documentation:
https://projectzomboid.com/modding/index.html?help-doc.html
snow pendant
oh cool
carmine cosmos
Take a look at the Project Zomboid Modding Guide on Github:
https://github.com/FWolfe/Zomboid-Modding-Guide#project-zomboid-modding-guide
late hound
Huh, I ought to add to this!
cunning canyon
Yeah, it’d be nice to start adding sections on commonly used code snippets, it took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out how to unequip things
hollow shadow
Hey,l im trying to make another container which can carry gas, but im not sure how to change the code so it sees my item as a gascan
shrewd grove
Hey,l im trying to make another container which can carry gas, but im not sure h...
far as i know, the game is hardcoded to use a "petrolcan" rather than a fuel container, so theres really no easy way at all to make another gas item
hollow shadow
far as i know, the game is hardcoded to use a "petrolcan" rather than a fuel con...
i fiddled with it, i managed to make it so i can grab gas with my new jerry can item, however i cant fill anything with it yet
late hound
Well there are 4 lua files that you can change with, with this, I am fairly certain that it is possible to use another type of petrol can. If you haven't already, look in these files: ISTakeGasolineFromVehicle.lua, ISBBQMenu.lua, ISCampingMenu.lua, and ISWorldObjectContextMenu.lua (for lighting dead bodies & generators).
hollow shadow
Well there are 4 lua files that you can change with, with this, I am fairly certain that it is possible to use another type of petrol can. If you haven't already, look in these files: ISTakeGasolineFromVehicle.lua, ISBBQMenu.lua, ISCampingMenu.lua, and ISWorldObjectContextMenu.lua (for lighting dead bodies & generators).
@late hound is it maybe possible to add a sound while refuelling something?
late hound
I believe so. Maybe you can do something like this, place this type of code in somewhere in those functions.
addSound(getPlayer(), getPlayer():getX(), getPlayer():getY(), 0, 600, 600);
pl:playSound("HouseAlarm");```
This is an artificial house alarm I made in one of my challenge files (coded in lua).Then the next step from that is to script that sound (connect that sound key term to an audio file) in a txt file.
undone elbow
Is there a function that says how much time passed from world creation?
getWorldAgeHours() returns 2 at 9:00
cunning canyon
@undone elbow would hours survived not also give you that number?
i mean, would break in multiplayer eventually
Gunna make people work to fix the emergency broadcast system, gotta look up the error codes in the manual you find in game 😂 🤓
Still working on the f l a v o r text
but it was fun going through old car manuals for inspiration
undone elbow
Yeah I'm not going to mess with trying it myself, if you could ping me when you ...
ping. Done.
That was very difficult to make. I added dirty code which covers 99% cases: lua gameTime:getWorldAgeHours() < 24
So now you can add your custom sandbox options 🙂
cunning canyon
Omg yaaaaaass thank you!!! Did not expect such quick turnaround 🙏
long grove
Gunna make people work to fix the emergency broadcast system, gotta look up the ...
you gotta go find a big data center or something?
undone elbow
Okay, just give me a test mod package (complete mod I can run) that pings the ne...
Here it is, a test mod package (complete mod you can run) 🙂 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2346189741
carmine cosmos
@undone elbow Alright, gonna set it up now
undone elbow
Fixed a bit (for build 40)
carmine cosmos
You just gotta tell me again what exactly you want 🤔
undone elbow
I'd like to know how much and how often the game sends data via network
carmine cosmos
I expect you have the test methods setup
Yes I get that, but do you have the test methods setup?
Methods that will send and pull data from network
undone elbow
Setting modData cause synchronizing
between client and server
So yes
There are methods
carmine cosmos
I am reading your Lua code but in order to actually test this I need you to narrow down a single piece of data we are going to track, otherwise it is going to take too long
undone elbow
"1111"
carmine cosmos
self.header = ISLabel:new(self.width / 2, 0, 40, "SCENARIOS", 1,1,1,1, UIFont.Large, true);
You mean this?
undone elbow
We are trying to figure out how much data the game will send. So I think 5 kilobytes is good for this purpose, isn't it?
carmine cosmos
Problem is that I now have to guess where that code is executed in Java 😄
undone elbow
The data itself is just a string of numbers like "11111" so it's easy to track even if messed with other info, isn't it?
Ahh
carmine cosmos
Not even sure what it does...
carmine cosmos
The data itself is just a string of numbers like "11111" so it's easy to track e...
It's not that simple, but I can try my best to configure the debugger to sift that data
undone elbow
It allows to "save" lua tables in java objects.
e.g. ```lua
GameTime:getInstance():getModData().some_var=123
-- or
GameTime:getInstance():getModData().some_table={a=5,b=6,c=7}
That is in game time, that I can track because I know where to look
First I have to see what your mod does, I assume it adds new context menu options
That then send traffic over network 🤔
undone elbow
Good! :)
This info is synchronized with all clients. The question is if it's possible to synchronize only part of this info, e.g. a property of the table.
Yes
carmine cosmos
On Remote Control item only I guess
mint sphinx
@undone elbow are you good to mod ?
undone elbow
Not really)
mint sphinx
damn. got some problems to get all part form a vehicle
undone elbow
Just pick right method in a vehicle object.)
carmine cosmos
IDEA is mighty slow to startup today 🙄
name=AUD - Aiteron Userfriendly Debug
Am I looking at the wrong mod?
carmine cosmos
There was a problem accessing the item. Please try again.
Only happens with your mod it would seem
undone elbow
Sorry, it hid after update)
carmine cosmos
Ah it's good now
I am still a bit confused, just recently waked up
I was looking at the wrong mod the whole time
At the recently downloaded one because I subscribed to yours but it didn't download
mint sphinx
star yea problem is i dont know which method one ^^ lol
carmine cosmos
@undone elbow Your mod keeps throwing errors for some reason
undone elbow
what errors?
carmine cosmos
But I was able to patch it and we are getting somewhere
The DATA and GAMETIME kept getting reset to nil
So it was throwing errors
undone elbow
It's strange because OnGameTimeLoaded event should be triggered at start.
carmine cosmos
Is there a method that gets this data exclusively on client?
Or does it all go through server?
carmine cosmos
The goal is to see how often the data is being synced from server to client right?
carmine cosmos
Can we try to call this data only on client?
undone elbow
--client or server
get_var = GameTime:getInstance():getModData().star_test.a
getModData() returns lua table that is auto synchronized.
carmine cosmos
Well we want to know how it synchronizes
That auto-synchronization system is what we need to learn about
How often does it happen and how much data it syncs
That's why I asked if there is a way to request this data from client
undone elbow
We can't request, just read if it's available on client.
So it comes from server as soon as possible to all clients, and clients may check if it exists at any time.
undone elbow
Yes, it is.
carmine cosmos
But your code is running completely on client side no?
undone elbow
My guess was that GameTime object sometimes resends all the data.
carmine cosmos
The package hierarchy is media/lua/client/StarsPublicTest.lua
undone elbow
My code may be on any side. But I'm not sure if it possible to change modData of GameTime at all on client.
Hmm, yes, my bad. It can be moved to /server/
or /shared/
carmine cosmos
Because I am not getting any pings from ZombieUpdatePacker which I assume is handling packets, have to test it out but we need to first have something to test
So setup your code so that it sends from server and reads on client side
Also try to error proof it this time so I don't get swarmed with red labels 😄
I also think this whole game is running on a single thread 🤔
undone elbow
@carmine cosmos I setup the code that checks info every tick and prints "CHECK: [message]" if something is changed in modData.
carmine cosmos
Have you setup the server and client side separately?
Now that I think about it, how can we even test this when MP is still in works?
undone elbow
No, this is the same code and it can work on both sides.
I'm still not sure if it's possible to change modData on client. But anyway it can check if modData is changed.
On build 40?..
carmine cosmos
I am not sure if they multi-thread in this game
Like if there is one thread for client and one thread for server
That then sync with each other
carmine cosmos
On build 40?..
No, on 41
But anyhow you have set everything up and pushed on Steam?
undone elbow
Yes
carmine cosmos
But if you are calling everything from server and client side at the same time how are we going to be able the test data transfer from one side to the other?
undone elbow
Server (or client) will send only on demand
e.g. by typing SetProperty(1) in console
carmine cosmos
@undone elbow Okay I can tell you one thing for sure
Your table was saved only once in my testing, on return to main menu
It is really difficult to test this because the KahluaTable delegates are being accessed like a million times a second, just putting a conditional breakpoints slows the game to a crawl due to computational time
undone elbow
Got it. Thank you for helping!
little stream
can use dis bike somehow or just a prop ( think its hydrocraft )
fallow bridge
Looks like a prop
Would look absolutely like garbage
If it was a drivable object
carmine cosmos
Got it. Thank you for helping!
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, I would nee more time and patience to do further testing
We should wait for the MP to roll out and then we can do network testing
scenic coral
can use dis bike somehow or just a prop ( think its hydrocraft )
As much as I love Hydrocraft, the only good things from it is the expanded food, weapons, weapons, and foraging. The books spawn too often, the crafted objects you find are bulk locked behind the smelter and iron mine, which the iron mine cannot be crafted, but cheated in
Foraging is good too, but the dev for that needs to compress the crafting side down and balance some more stuff out
rigid void
any folks here got some good guides to isometric spriting?
or templates or links to png. stuff that I can paint over?
ping or dm me if you know of any guides/blogs/links ta
analog sandal
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snow pendant
any folks here got some good guides to isometric spriting?
if this is for zomboid assets, aren't sprites essentially legacy at this point and everything is moving to 3d models?
grizzled grove
if this is for zomboid assets, aren't sprites essentially legacy at this point a...
So far there's no indication that environments will be 3d. There's an old blog post on the prospect of it, but i don't know if that will happen
hollow shadow
if this is for zomboid assets, aren't sprites essentially legacy at this point a...
Most i saw was ground items getting 3d models, such as cement bags, towels, and other common items that the player may drop on the ground
grizzled grove
They also said publicly they brought in a modeler to do that, so it's unlikely they've been working on it. Also they're still making new sprites for the game.
cunning canyon
you gotta go find a big data center or something?
There will be weather stations around the map that you have to go to. When the Emergency Broadcast System fails it will transmit a location and error code. Using the item above, as well as a map of weather stations, you’ll be able to find and troubleshoot issues with the EBS.
grizzled grove
is there a goal to keeping the EBS running?
snow pendant
They also said publicly they brought in a modeler to do that, so it's unlikely t...
oh that's true, I wasn't thinking about world objects like trees and such
hollow shadow
I believe so. Maybe you can do something like this, place this type of code in s...
Tried putting it into multiple functions, cant hear any alarm noises :I
I tried to put addSound(getPlayer(), getPlayer():getX(), getPlayer():getY(), 0, 600, 600);
pl:playSound("HouseAlarm"); into one of these
also tried editing the ISTakeGasolineFromVehicle.lua like that
@late hound Ok lol, so i just siphoned gas from the car and didnt hear a sound, but there were suddenly like 100 zombies arround me
late hound
so that means that the world sound works, so just reduce that to like 10,10
cunning canyon
is there a goal to keeping the EBS running?
I mean, you can let the EBS die and then you won’t have weather reports lol. I kinda like listening to the weather when planning supply runs. Also, for folks who have the helicopter come more than once, the EBS being down means you have less warning.
It’s my first mod so I thought I’d start small, open to other reasons to keep EBS running 😂
Perhaps letting the EBS fail means a helicopter comes in to fix it, which ya know, might be less than ideal
grizzled grove
cool, i like it
cunning canyon
I have some other mod ideas but they’re a little weirder. I kinda want to make a train mod. I feel like it wouldnt be too hard to make a specialized train vehicle that follows a predefined path
I’m kinda stoked for multiplayer to drop and role play servers to be a thing
tame mulch
tame mulch
Yeah, it will be fallout style. If anyone has any ideas / suggestions for this mod - write here
cunning canyon
Maybe if the lock breaks you can still open it with a crowbar but it takes time and makes a absolute racket
Attracting all the zombies
And your chance of busting the lock open is dependent on your strength, so you may have to try multiple times
I like the art you use, tho I would raise the position of your UI so you can still see your character when you’re doing this
eternal stirrup
Yeah, it will be fallout style. If anyone has any ideas / suggestions for this m...
Maybe add a pick gun or dedicated pick tools? Also, I recommend watching a few vids of Lockpicking Lawyer on yt for ideas
tame mulch
Good. Maybe I will add hotwire minigame too
eternal stirrup
Ha, that would be amazing
still summit
Anyone know when the character model will be released for modding? :o?
or is it already and I haven't noticed?
late hound
It's not.
analog sandal
Maybe add a pick gun or dedicated pick tools? Also, I recommend watching a few v...
I love the Lockpicking Lawyer, learnt most of my lockpicking from him
cunning canyon
yeah I +1 the lock picking lawyer, that will give you some great inspo
cunning canyon
I’ll ask since I’m kinda surprised I haven’t seen it already: any reason to think adding attachments like snow plows and bullbars to cars would be a difficult mod to create?
I was thinking of whipping up some models and a few scripts to test this out. I figured it would work like armor for the front of the car, any damage that would normally go to the hood/lights/windshield would be a absorbed by your bumper attachment until it breaks.
I’m running out of hoods and windshields in my game 🙃
mint sphinx
anyone there use to use the debug tool in zomboid ?
cunning canyon
@mint sphinx which debug tool? you mean the general debug console activated by -debug?
mint sphinx
yea the -debug
cunning canyon
yup, I've used it, what you need help with?
mint sphinx
the znet::znetfriends::onpersonastatechange is there a way to disable that spam call ? ^^
seems i only can find all general infomation disable but not only for that output
cunning canyon
I'm not sure specifically, but there should be a debug button or something on the top right of the debug menu where you can disable certain things from being logged to the console
sorry, top left***
I don't have my game in debug mode at the moment, but it opens a drop down with a bunch of categories, and a few of them are enabled by default, you'll have to experiment prolly
if that doesn't work you could always try commenting out whatever is logging that in the actual base lua files
mint sphinx
cant even find any referance in the lua files that call lol
cunning canyon
I'm not super familiar yet with the lua api
but is it possible that's a mod?
because I don't get that message when I sit around at max speed
lmao speak of the devil i just got it
i'm sure someone who knows how to set breakpoints better than I do could help out, but have you uh
tried playing with steam offline lmao?
because I usually do that and that's prolly why i don't see this as much
vapid nova
is there a mod to disable alarm watches ?
like, when u rightclick a watch that u wanne pick up"disable alarm & grab"
thatd be neat
obsidian sundial
playing with the game sound effects, dying light🙂
long grove
There will be weather stations around the map that you have to go to. When the E...
sounds cool, hope it wont screw my map mods up
wicked crane
Does anyone know what aspect of vehicles changed in the past few updates that broke some vehicle mods making them invisible with only wheels? I'm trying to fix some mods but I don't know what changed. I've been looking through text files and I thought I came close to fixing it, but no luck.
cunning canyon
sounds cool, hope it wont screw my map mods up
Depends on what cells you’re modifying, if you tell me now I can avoid them lmao. For V1 I may just determine existing locations around the map as “weather stations”
long grove
Depends on what cells you’re modifying, if you tell me now I can avoid them lmao...
oh they aren't my map mods lmao, just worried about wpe n shit
cunning canyon
Ohh
Yeah tbh I would love to know what the most popular map mods are so I can avoid those cells
That thought had occurred to me
Tbh I wish there was a way to plop a building down in an existing cell
long grove
the ones i'd keep in mind are west point expansion, raven creek, new denver, fort redstone, eerie county, bedford falls and maybe the megamall mod
cunning canyon
Ok awesome I’m copying down that so I remember
I may start some git page with a list of these cells
Maybe a python script to analyze the mods and populate that data
long grove
riverside atm has no major map mods, muldraugh has nearby ones but none to the city itself
same from muldraugh applies to rosewood
cunning canyon
Ok cool
long grove
hey @zealous wing sorry for the ping, do you know any food mods with preservation like smoking or drying in them?
hollow shadow
I like the art you use, tho I would raise the position of your UI so you can still see your character when you’re doing this
@cunning canyon if the player wouldn’t look at that center of the screen then they couldn’t see zombies entering the hearing radius fast enough, which could lead to a bite
I’ll ask since I’m kinda surprised I haven’t seen it already: any reason to think adding attachments like snow plows and bullbars to cars would be a difficult mod to create?
I was thinking of whipping up some models and a few scripts to test this out. I figured it would work like armor for the front of the car, any damage that would normally go to the hood/lights/windshield would be a absorbed by your bumper attachment until it breaks.
@cunning canyon @tame mulch LOL if you can manage this then I’ll defno make craftable versions of a bumper,
tame mulch
Its impossible now
hollow shadow
Darn
frank helm
any mod to perserve food?
analog sandal
if anyone ever mods in laser and plasma rifles, hit me up folks
as always, entirely made out of self-recorded samples
snow pendant
if anyone ever mods in laser and plasma rifles, hit me up folks
hey, just what you see pal
analog sandal
what?
snow pendant
carmine cosmos
Ah can't believe we didn't figure that reference out
analog sandal
oh yeah, aware there aren't any yet
carmine cosmos
Anyone else reading #pz_b42_chat from time to time?
rigid void
I've been thinking about ways to distract zombies or attract hordes. But how cool would fireworks be?
snow pendant
but... throwing in pz
fireworks could just be "placing" and lighting
I mean, if you're throwing a firework
that sounds like a really, really bad idea
JPP can attest
analog sandal
sorry, I was thinking of firecrackers
snow pendant
PZ Devs: "New Item: Fireworks! In unrelated news, we have implemented body dismemberment"
analog sandal
where I'm from everyone throws their firecrackers, the big 116dbU ones
rigid void
Yup just place, have lighter/matches then run.... 5/6 seconds later pop pop bang fizz
analog sandal
well we just had new year's, so im sure everyone has fresh fireworks recordings 🙂
rigid void
btw as you know i'm very new to this whole thing. Are placeable items just .png sprites? I know vehicles/weapons are 3d models right?
I'm guessing so
analog sandal
ive no idea on this 🙂 just sounds
rigid void
np 🙂
high birch
Hey there, I'm kinda new to PZ Modding, and got some.. problems
I currently editing / adding the "fannypack", my problem is, the fannypack_back only equip in front, and vise versa
Equiping back in back, or front in front, result in an LUA error
Switching already equiped front to back, back to front, works, maybe someone can help me out with this :)
Code screwed up in Discord
carmine cosmos
Hey there, I'm kinda new to PZ Modding, and got some.. problems
I currently edi...
Read the RuntimeException message, you are trying to access a null table