mod_development

[ivory lance]

Where's it? O.o

[spark vector]

@nimble spoke Can you take a look at this? This is the entire file.```
require 'Items/SuburbsDistributions'
require 'Vehicles/VehicleDistributions'

-- SuburbsDistributions
table.insert(SuburbsDistributions["all"]["desk"].items, "Base.KnoxCountryMapSecret");
table.insert(SuburbsDistributions["all"]["desk"].items, 0.0005);

table.insert(SuburbsDistributions["Bag_WeaponBag"].items, "Base.KnoxCountryMapSecret");
table.insert(SuburbsDistributions["Bag_WeaponBag"].items, 1);

-- VehicleDistributions
VehicleDistributions.GloveBoxSecretMapRare = VehicleDistributions.GloveBox
table.insert(VehicleDistributions["GloveBoxSecretMapRare"].items,"Base.KnoxCountryMapSecret");
table.insert(VehicleDistributions["GloveBoxSecretMapRare"].items, 1);

VehicleDistributions.GloveBoxSecretMapOnly = {rolls = 1, items = {"KnoxCountryMapSecret", 100,},}

VehicleDistributions.Police.GloveBox = VehicleDistributions.GloveBoxSecretMapRare
VehicleDistributions.Ranger.GloveBox = VehicleDistributions.GloveBoxSecretMapRare
VehicleDistributions.Fire.GloveBox = VehicleDistributions.GloveBoxSecretMapRare

VehicleDistributions.Radio.GloveBox = VehicleDistributions.GloveBoxSecretMapOnly

I'm not sure if I need to do a table.insert(); of some kind at the end

The way that I've written it, it seems like the changes are overwrites (and in this case that is the good and right thing to do).

[nimble spoke]

What exactly is going on in game with that file now?

[lost spear]

@radiant ginkgo So it was you making that train

You bastard you! IF you get it working. Ill be maazed

amazed*

Any idea on how the train would work?

Also it is possible to add ramps to the game to allow vehicles to drive up onto roof's of vehicles

roofs of buildings**

[willow estuary]

As far as vehicles are concerned, there is only 1 vertical z level to the game, so all vehicles exist on the same horizontal level.

So stuff like multiple story roads, planes, using the vehicle system etc are "impossible".

[hexed anchor]

then how do you explain them flipping and going miles into the air?

[willow estuary]

so all vehicles exist on the same horizontal level.
They have 3 dimensional physics, but it all exists on the same "plane". ie they can jump and flip; but they can't get to the second story on a building.

The issue isn't the vehicles not having 3 dimensional physics modelling, the issue is that Project Zomboid itself, aside from vehicles, doesn't have 3 dimensional physics modelling.

[hexed anchor]

oh I overlooked horizontal level

[radiant ginkgo]

@lost spear No, I made a model based on this concept and concept may have been made in photoshop. I plan to make this train, but it will be static because it can't be made to ride on rails, but it will be interactive!

[low anvil]

Does anyone know why the MoreBuilds mod isn't working?

[willow estuary]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2075777590

[lost spear]

@willow estuary thank you was curious wanted to stash my cars on a 2nd level didn’t know if that was a possibility or not. I’m assuming it’s an engine limitation.

@radiant ginkgo wait UwU how so? Am curious now. Would like train but making it stick to the rails only would be a feat of god to get working so I can see whys its only static then

[radiant ginkgo]

@lost spear But he won't be alone! It comes with different railcars with different loot inside! It will be useful and harmonious within the game

I can make it as a transport, but this will be unrealistic, since it will be used on roads and everywhere

Therefore it is static

[lost spear]

AHAHAHAHA NAH MAN FUCK IT! ROLL A TRAIN DOWN MULDRAUGH

[alpine widget]

Not one to ask for a lot of help with modding, however I have been working with drainable items. I am trying to come up with a solution to fill a new gas barrel with gas from a petrol can.. I saw and am using the BlowTorch/PropaneTank code to try and do this, however, when I try and refill he barrel the delta does not go up. I use the same code to fill the petrol can with the barrel, that works. But why not for the barrel? The items are near identical.. (in my current dev, the empty petrol can item is removed, only the petrol can exists). If anyone can help me out, I've spent hours fiddling with the code to no avail.

`function RefillGasolineBarrel_OnTest(item)
if item:getType() == "Gasolinebarrel" then
if item:getUsedDelta() == 1 then return false; end
elseif item:getType() == "PetrolCan" then
if item:getUsedDelta() == 0 then return false; end
end
return true;
end

-- Fill entirely the Gas Barrel with the remaining gas in barrel
function RefillGasolineBarrel_OnCreate(items, result, player)
local previousGB = nil;
local petrolcan = nil;
for i=0, items:size()-1 do
if items:get(i):getType() == "Gasolinebarrel" then
previousGB = items:get(i);
elseif items:get(i):getType() == "PetrolCan" then
petrolcan = items:get(i);
end
end
result:setUsedDelta(previousGB:getUsedDelta());

while result:getUsedDelta() < 1 and petrolcan:getUsedDelta() > 0 do
    result:setUsedDelta((result:getUsedDelta() + result:getUseDelta() * 1));
    petrolcan:Use();
end

if result:getUsedDelta() > 1 then
    result:setUsedDelta(1);
end`

Many thanks in advance. I should mentioned this is based in 41.xx not 40.xx

[novel obsidian]

Hello?

I can ask?

Is it possible to transfer animations from sims to pz?

[spark vector]

What exactly is going on in game with that file now?
@nimble spoke it seems to work fine as far as my stuff goes. My main concern is that it might be unintentionally undoing changes made by other mods. I mean, it would only change gloveboxes for a few vehicles so it's hard to imagine that the damage would be very extensive. But it's probably good for me to learn best practices.

@alpine widget I'm just starting to experiment with this stuff myself so take all this with a grain of salt, but don't you need to make a ISTimedAction derived object with start(), stop(), update(), perform(), and new() methods?

[alpine widget]

@spark vector seems to work for BlowTorch and PropaneTank

check recipecode.lua in PZ

[spark vector]

k brb

Apologies in advance if I ask questions you already answered

Are you getting a context menu option for this?

Like does it even appear on the list?

[alpine widget]

no problem at all, happy for any help. I'm a great copy/paster modifer of LUA

Yes

so gasbarrel to petrol can works

but not petrol can to barrel

but yes, menu's work... what i mean is when u try and fill the barrel, the use delta does not go up

[spark vector]

Have you created a recipe? Not just a change to recipecode, but an actual plain old recipe in scripts/recipes.txt?

[alpine widget]

in a private pm i can give u all the code to test if u want

[spark vector]

yea that's probably best for everyone

if we crack it we can post the results here in case they're helpful to others

[alpine widget]

k cool will do... gimme 10-15mins.. im still working... and i will zip it up for you

absolutely

[scenic moss]

Is it possible to make the floor half submerged?

I believe the point is that the floors are not global, but local.

Does modding allow this to be changed?

[lost spear]

Where are the vanilla vehicles located in the zomboid folder? I wanna take a look at them and see how they tick

Also reverse the devs causing gentle love taps to zombies damaging vehicles cause other people cheese that shit.

[nimble spoke]

Vehicles are in media/scripts/vehicles but you won't be able to undo the collision changes, those are handled inside the java files

[lost spear]

Ah damn alright. Im just a little annoyed with it but ill make due with it thank you sir

[lost spear]

@nimble spoke by chance does your car mods effect the frequency of key spawns in vehicles or am I just extremely lucky

[nimble spoke]

No changes to key spawns

[lost spear]

Alright then must be lucky off my ass thanks for the rely once again sir

[scenic moss]

Tell me. I want to draw a new window. Where can I find an example? Where is the window data stored?

[river plinth]

does someone in here now what the arguments of the function ''public boolean setOverlaySprite(String paramString, float paramFloat1, float paramFloat2, float paramFloat3, float paramFloat4, boolean paramBoolean) {'' in IsoObject.class are for? I'm trying to add a transparent sprite to a IsoThumpable which get's later updated to the none transparent one

[topaz pendant]

@nimble spoke one of your mods seem to cause a bug with make-up and wearing a hat, its one of three, cooking time, farming time or relaxing time may be all three though

[willow estuary]

Reorganized Info screen causes a conflict as well.

[quasi geode]

@river plinth sprite name (string), red (float), green (float), blue (float), alpha (float), send update packet (bool)

[lavish adder]

Hey uh... dumb question but are you going to make new sprites and models for the guns in ogrm once build 41 goes into a stable release?

[river plinth]

Thanks, colors seemed kinda strange so I doubted that it's actual rgb

[nimble spoke]

@topaz pendant It is relaxing time, the other 2 don't cause that bug. What's the problem with wearing hats? Can you send me the console.txt for it in case it shows an error?

[abstract raptor]

My mod is breaking PZ for me ;_;

I did a simple update and now the game becomes unresponsive

LOG : General, 1588198711097> 1588198711097 znet: ZNetFriends::OnPersonaStateChange
LOG : General, 1588198722296> 1588198722296 znet: Java_zombie_core_znet_SteamWorkshop_n_1GetInstalledItemFolders
LOG : General, 1588198722331> MOD: refusing to list examplemod
LOG : General, 1588198722338> MOD: loading SurvivorRadioV2
LOG : General, 1588198722360> translator: language is EN
WARN : Script, 1588198722850> VehicleScript.Loaded> vehicle "SmallCar" extents != physicsChassisShape

[nimble spoke]

Reorganized Info Screen was easy to update

[spark vector]

Is anyone else seeing makeup show up as clothing items that they can take off and put back on?

[low anvil]

If I wanted to install a mod map, would I install it just like installing a mod by putting it in the same folder?

[spark vector]

The mod maps that I know about are just like normal mods that just happen to have a maps folder

so yes

But my mods.txt file has a blank section for maps that I've never seen filled, so there is probably something I don't know about

[river plinth]

Are many sprites performance heavy? Currently working on something that might add thousands of extra sprites to the game and I'm rather hesitant if I should really add this detail or try to achieve an easy cop-out

and as I'm no spriter I would need someone further down the line that creates this massive amount of sprites for me

[willow estuary]

Well, Hydrocraft seems to have an issue with topping out sprite memory.

What would require thousands of sprites? Well, aside from Hydrocraft.

[river plinth]

staged crafting projects, so when you build a crate you have multiple stages of completion

this get's quickly out of hands if you consider all the vanilla crafting buildings and it's planned to be open for other mods to hook in

so I guess I will do the cop-out then

[steady forge]

hi, some one knows the var name for the object 50s Diner Table?

[river plinth]

Can someone quickly help me with translation? I have a german translation for my mod that uses umlauts and the are not properly displayed ingame

I checked the german translation shipped with the game, this also has umlauts and they seem to work fine

        if not needsTools then
            needsTools = true;
            desc = desc .. getText("Tooltip_ABE_NeedsTools")..": <LINE> ";
        end

        local first = true;
        desc = desc .. "  - ";
        for _,tool in pairs(bcUtils.split(tools, "/")) do
            local item = ABE.GetItemInstance(tool);
            if not first then
                desc = desc .. " / ";
            end
            local color = "";
            if ISBuildMenu.countMaterial(player, tool) <= 0 then
                color = " <RED> ";
            else
                color = " <GREEN> ";
            end
            desc = desc .. color..item:getDisplayName().." <RGB:1,1,1> ";
            first = false;
        end
        desc = desc .. " <LINE> ";
    end```

This is my code where the translation is fetched using getText()

My translation: Tooltip_DE = { Tooltip_ABE_Project = "Projekt", Tooltip_ABE_NeedsTools = "Benötigte Werkzeuge", Tooltip_ABE_NeedsParts = "Benötigte Materialien", Tooltip_ABE_Profession = "Beruf", Tooltip_ABE_Skill = "Skill", Tooltip_ABE_Progress = "Fortschritt" }

[scenic trail]

sorry if this has been asked before, but are there any guides on how to make custom cars? like a custom 3d model and properties

[spark vector]

@scenic trail I've found the best way to learn anything to do with programming is to find something that's similar to what you want to make, copy it whole, and then change it until its yours. Find the fastest, easiest way to make it do what you need it to. During the course of this you will learn how everything works.

So just copy a vehicle mod and go through every file changing what you need to. If you change an originalVariableNameLikeThis into yourNewVarNameLikeThat make sure you make that change everywhere.

As far as the actual creation of new 3D models, check out the pzwiki for links to tutorials.

[scenic trail]

thanks a lot! I have almost 0 knowledge when it comes to programming, but ill give it a shot

[spark vector]

Oh another thing

You can do all of this with NotePad or whatever stripped down text editor comes with your computer

But modern text editors are really great. They automatically colorize text to match what that word is doing (like if it is a function, variable, comment, etc) which makes reading code 1000x easier. They can automatically sweep a file to fix the tabs and spaces so that everything is lined up perfectly. They also change some behavior that you've come to expect, to something better suited to coding.

Like normally if you were to select a block of text and then type ", the stuff you selected would get erased and replaced with "

In a programming text editor it would instead wrap the stuff you selected with " " on either side

Stuff like that

you definitely want one

I recommend Atom: https://atom.io/

It's free and easy and does everything you want it to. It's also moddable, so there's a huge amount of community-made packages you can download to make it work better for you

[spark vector]

I'm working on a pretty big change to Fashion Montage. A byproduct of this change is that I'm going to free up a ton of GUIDs that are currently associated with clothing items.

What this means is that if anyone has any brand new clothing items, this would be a terrific opportunity.

If you provide all the art assets I can assign them GUIDs and slip them into the game.

@lost spear @nimble spoke

[lost spear]

HAH I wish I was a artist hon or a modeler etc etc

If I could I would gladly help you out but I was just looking to get into mods

[nimble spoke]

That is an interesting proposition, but to be honest I need to focus on fixing bugged mods for now. I'll let you know if I decide to work on that

I'm curious to know how exactly you're going to do that

I still need to find a good solution for the context menu in relaxing time

[spark vector]

It's possible there's some obstacle that I am completely unaware of that will blow up in my face. But if I pull it off I'll give you more details.

[radiant ginkgo]

GAZ-21 Volga

[topaz pendant]

any gun mods for build 41?

[main cave]

mr danny its beautiful

[eternal stirrup]

polonez fso WIP

[lavish adder]

@topaz pendant wish there was, OGRM is still in build 40 and Fenrir said he'll work on it once build 41 is stable

[pseudo yacht]

Hi i search a library of project zomboid
I found this : https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Event

It's all?

[river plinth]

@pseudo yacht The best way is to decompile the source files and look around them

Ok, so does anyone in here has some knowledge about translation? I'm still not any further regarding my umlaut problem and I just hit another roadblock. Is it not possible to access a translation from another mod? So for example I have a text defined in mod A and want to display it in mod B?

[pseudo yacht]

@river plinth it's hard 😮

[river plinth]

@pseudo yacht You mean the actual decompiling or modding itself?

If the actual decompining, than no, not really. Did you try JD-GUI?

[pseudo yacht]

Yes i have JD-GUI but for search a value ^^

I do not see how to search
example the life of the player

[river plinth]

There is the torch symbole at the top, with this you can search in all files

And once you look at the code more you quickly get the hang of it

[low anvil]

Hey, if I were to download a map, would I put it also into the mods folder?

[wet dune]

Anyone know how to replace the zombie sounds in build 41?

[eternal stirrup]

taking shape xd my first ever 3d model

[pseudo yacht]

Toyota 💩

[slim plume]

So.... uploaded Hydrocraft 2.0 to the workshop... if anybody likes to... ud love to hear your feedback. Were working on the 3d models at the moment and reworking manymany things. But it works all fine.

[main cave]

@eternal stirrup What's that for

[eternal stirrup]

@main cave I'm adding a Polonez FSO Polish car from the 90s

[main cave]

oh ok

[dapper verge]

Polonez wow, my father got one 20 years ago

Make Fiat 126p small car who have engine on back

[willow estuary]

Made a tool for testing damage to zeds/weapon damage. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2083318073

[eternal stirrup]

any idea why my front wheels do this?

https://streamable.com/mguktu

[hexed anchor]

maybe it's clipping on the main hull of the car?

[eternal stirrup]

yeah, something's off with the offsets, thanks

[nimble spoke]

@spark vector I updated relaxing time today and it no longer overrides context menu files, so you may want to change your Let Me Think mod.

@eternal stirrup looks like a suspension issue or wheel position issue

models don't push or interact with each other to cause that

I'd try to tweak the z axis position of your front wheels

[spark vector]

@eternal stirrup @radiant ginkgo Can one of you tell me how to actually open .X files in blender? The wiki says ```3d Modelling:

Used for the creation of custom items, vehicles and weapons. Blender is the common choice as its free, and import/export scripts for PZ's model format exist. Any 3d app can be used to make your models, with blender doing the final conversion.``` but it never says where those scripts are or how to use them

[nimble spoke]

I have shared a Blender plugin here before, let me check if I have the link

But you can still use the older file format

the txt model

[quasi geode]

but it never says where those scripts are or how to use them i was actually intending for that info to go into the main section for 3d modelling instead of the overview. never quite got that far but i'm also not a modeller 😄

[spark vector]

thanks @nimble spoke , I'll give that a shot

@quasi geode no sweat, the fact you put anything up there at all is awesome

[quasi geode]

some of the sections like modelling and mapping were actually intended to be filled out by people with more experience in such things (not me haha)

[spark vector]

Does anyone know what the 'IS' in 'ISUI' stands for?

[quasi geode]

indiestone most likely

[radiant ginkgo]

@spark vector IndieStoneUserInterface

[spark vector]

ahh of course

thanks

[radiant ginkgo]

I can tell you how import

[spark vector]

nice, yes please

i might not respond right away, in which case thank you in advance

[eternal stirrup]

@spark vector sorry, I can't help you with this, I couldn't open PZ models in blender, I created mine from scratch. Also I'm not very knowledgeable about blender, this was my first model ever.

[low anvil]

Anyone know a good mod that gets zombies to actually move around? Nocturnal Zombies seems to make them recover to empty areas but unfortunately causes you to play walking simulator giving you no reason to stay in shelter.

[spark vector]

new update:

Basically made it so that you can change the shade of everything, and in instances where that didn't look good I added more texture options (i.e. things like firepants where you have a lot of different elements of various shades that stop looking right if you apply a uniform tint)

It's ready to go but it fiddles with xml so I'm worried players are going to dive in without reading the fine print and end up breaking their saves

[quasi geode]

people have a hard enough time reading the giant bold print, let alone the fine stuff 😐

[drifting ore]

my favorite mod !!!

[spark vector]

thanks 🙂

[abstract raptor]

Would you guys

like to listen to the weather channel's aesthetic music in the survivor radio mod?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dF0BubuCyE

[spark vector]

brings back memories

vocab question:

ModelName.object:method()

is that correct?

or is it :function()

[quasi geode]

object:method() table.function()

: passes the self argument, therefore its a method of self. . is generally not tied to any specific instance (no self), so its a function

[spark vector]

thanks

I think I still don't really fully understand tables

I'm trying to override something and having troubles. How do you reference something's local variable?

the original starts like this:```
CharacterCreationHeader = ISPanel:derive("CharacterCreationHeader");
local AvatarPanel = ISPanel:derive("CharacterCreationAvatar")

function AvatarPanel:createChildren()
self.avatarBackgroundTexture = getTexture("media/ui/avatarBackground.png")

I need to override function AvatarPanel:createChildren() but I can't figure out how to get the syntax right.

[nimble spoke]

the easiest way is just to include it in your own file that requires the original that contains the function, but Fenris call show you the right way to do it

[quasi geode]

short version: You dont. Part of local's job is not only to limit namespace overhead, but also to protect variables from outside interferance.

long version: in this specific case, we can... when CharacterCreationHeader:create() is called, it creates a instance of AvatarPanel at line 121, and stores in it the instance of CharacterCreationHeader. so you can just overwrie that instance's createChildren() method.
however it means delaying the overwrite, and possibly overwriting CharacterCreationHeader:create() to inject AvatarPanel overwrite after creation

basically if you cant overwrite something due to lack of access, go one step up. overwrite the calling function or something higher up the chain

[spark vector]

@quasi geode thank you!

[quasi geode]

np..hope that makes some sort of sense haha. not always the best at explainations

[spark vector]

It really does

I wish I had gotten into coding earlier in life because I really like it and would like to think I have a bit of knack for it

but I'm so far behind the curve for someone my age

@drifting ore I haven't posted the 'big' update yet; I think I ended up changing too much and need to scale it back big time. That'll take some time.

However, I did post a small update today that makes the character gen screen a little bit easier to use. You might not notice all the changes if you're not looking for them but it'll really cut down on needless clicking while you're tweaking your character.

[river plinth]

@quasi geode I reckon that you have a script that changes this parts of the comments based on the file and release? ```@module ORGM
@release 3.09
@author Fenris_Wolf.
@copyright 2018 File: shared/1LoadOrder/ORGMCore.lua

[quasi geode]

i dont. the release is actually more so i know when the file was updated, not what the current release is

[topaz pendant]

say someone released a mod called hydrocraft 2.0, i am confused

[lavish adder]

@quasi geode are you going to make gun models once build 41 becomes stable?

[quasi geode]

ah nope i'm just the code monkey. models arent my thing. FIlibuster did all the current models, and has been doing some awesome work upgrading & making new ones that will make their way into the mod

[lavish adder]

Oh, that's good to know. btw is the Walther WA2000 gonna be a thing in the mod once it gets updated?

[quasi geode]

hadnt really considered it

[spark vector]

I just spent like two hours debugging only to just now realize that the problem was that everything was here: Contents/mods/SubMod/ instead of here: Contents/mods/Submod/media/

Just fucking end me

[nimble spoke]

@spark vector Hey man, looks like cooking time has some serious issue with orphaned FMJ mods, do you know what could it be?

[spark vector]

I'll give it another glance in a few days

how easy/hard would it be to make a mod that just makes it so that there's permanent heavy fog for any game mode?
@abstract raptor https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2086715842

That had been bothering me for a long time, too. I finally decided to do something about it.

[spark vector]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2086715842

[granite wing]

Why isn't there a M1 Abrams mod yet?

I bet making a working shooting mechanic won't be possible but just driving around would be pretty fun

[willow estuary]

There's already an APC mod where you can drive over all the zombies, risk free, that you desire.

[flat pond]

I think its more the grandeur of an M1 Abrams that they're after

[upper bough]

is it possible to change the weather? most of the relevant methods in the WeatherPeriod and ClimateManager classes are set to protected for some reason, and I don't see anything that might be useful in LuaManager

[quasi geode]

theres a debug UI window for modifing the weather and climate controls in the lua files, should work as a sufficent example

cant remember the file offhand

[willow estuary]

@nimble spoke from observing people using Driving Time in MP, maybe having some sort of "Gas Tank Cap is Locked" message for when they right mouse click on a locked gas tank car might be helpful?

[nimble spoke]

good idea, I'll add it to the list

I never got to play it in MP sadly

[willow estuary]

No pressure or anything, but I was just curious what the status of Driving Time for b41 was?

Not a big deal, just eager to plug it into that vehicle spawning mod I told you about.

[nimble spoke]

Since the devs announced that there are changes coming to vehicle textures I decided to stop working on it for now, when those changes come I'll fix/update and then resume work

I also want to take the time change things that can be improved, for example the meat/ice van freezing system will make use of a new part with its own condition and effect on the temperature

[willow estuary]

Cool!

[sudden falcon]

does anyone know if it would be possible to add kingsmouth spawn points in order to play on the map with custom sandbox?

[soft musk]

Would it be possible for a mod to enable "environmental attacks" function but only for windows, or if possible a small chance for doors and even smaller for garage/security doors?

[drifting ore]

Hey everyone, I'm trying to get into PZ modding and I have an idea for a simple retexture of a clothing item, my main issue is that I'm not sure how to edit textures. Ideally I'd have the retextured version be some kind of crafting recipie with a particular item of clothing and some paint, but I realize that when I have zero experience or any knowledge of what I'm doing, just a simple retexture would be easier

So, I have the PZ authoring tools installed on steam, do I need other software?

[flat pond]

Random mod idea - what if just as prolonged exposure to the zombie corpses drains health, prolonged exposure to zombies themselves causes a drain on health, with face masks lessening the effect to varying degrees and hazmat suits stopping it fully. If zombies are in proximity of your base it becomes a big problem for them to be close to you, the length of your melee encounters is limited (depending on your gear), and there is now a new and practical use for the hazmat suits and masks. I think its an interesting way to make the game a little more challenging.

[spark vector]

@drifting ore Download https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1902043347 and use that as a template. It makes the one-piece swimsuit a modern leotard look instead of a 1930's strongman suit.

The original vanilla clothing textures are stored in Project Zomboid/Java/media/textures/Clothes

Which I imagine you'll probably want to borrow to use as a base of reference

[drifting ore]

@spark vector gotcha, thank you!

[willow estuary]

The truck model itself is a placeholder, but it works.

[spark vector]

I can't seem to figure out how to make a button do something. I can make a keybinding but I can't seem to actually then attach that binding to anything else.

Anyone know how?

I'm trying to make a button that stomps, and only stomps, regardless of what you're holding or if there is even a zombie nearby.

[abstract raptor]

So, I wanna do a mod for my Maze map where zombies have a "Soul Coin" in their inventory, and the function of soul coins would be if you had multiple of them you could "trade them in" for different items (likely by just right clicking on them in the inventory to do a recipe where like... say 3 soul coins you could get a baseball bat or something like that). Would anyone be interested in assisting me in realizing this silly mod idea?

[willow estuary]

So I've been working on Fuel Truck and Water Truck scripts and code, with the intention that vehicle modders can use it for their own vehicles.
The current status of the project is:

Fuel Tank Trucks

• 100% functional for filling the Fuel Tank from Gas Cans and Gas Pumps
• 100% functional for filling up Gas Cans
• I don't have an option to refuel vehicles from a Fuel Tank Truck at this point but I'm going to plug in refueling vehicles, at least from appropriate models of Fuel Trucks as well.

Water Tank Trucks
NOTE: Water Tank Trucks currently only dispense Tainted Water; I think I'm going to make both Tainted and Taint-able water tanks, as well a water purification tanks.

• 100% functional for filling the Water Tank from player water containers.
• janky/buggy for dispensing water from the Water Tank to player water containers; it works, but not ideally.
• Currently no option for filling the Water Tank from rivers and lakes; will try to implement later.

Propane Tank Trucks

• haven't put any work into it yet but they're on the agenda.

Once I have all of this working I'll probably make it available as an API on the workshop for vehicle modders to freely use.
I'm not gonna bother with Milk Truck Tanks for multiple reasons FYI, despite how much I like Fury Road.

[earnest quartz]

have mods been made for custom car parts? battering ram on front, or fortified windows etc? i remember there was talk long ago

[spark vector]

@earnest quartz Soul Filcher's Driving Time shows that this can be done, but nobody has actually done it yet

[eternal stirrup]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2089995945

[willow estuary]

That has the best rust texture I've seen on any vehicle mod!

[eternal stirrup]

@willow estuary thanks! I made do with my limited editing skills xd

[severe ridge]

how to edit the meshes/models? i cant find a way to open the extensions in blender

[eternal stirrup]

I couldn't either on blender 2.8

[severe ridge]

any other free or at least cheap software for that?

[severe ridge]

cool, now attach a rain collector ;-;

imagine ;-;

[eternal stirrup]

@severe ridge what I meant is I couldn't open existing PZ car models in blender. You still can use blender to create your model, though.

[severe ridge]

I downloaded a older version and the directx plugin, works well, just need some orientation on how to set files and preview textures lol

[low anvil]

Does anyone know how to properly download maps like Bedford Falls?

I can't find any proper tutorials

[willow estuary]

You just subscribe to the workshop item and Steam automatically downloads it.

If you instead somehow mean edit, you can't.

[low anvil]

Nah I made an error last time which was why I was confused.

Ignore my question.

[spark vector]

@abstract raptor That sounds similar to the Last Stand Accumulator challenge mode. The code for the challenge modes is all visible in the PZ source files, so you could crack that open and see how it ticks.

[abstract raptor]

i would give u cookie if u help :3

but I'll probably take a look at some point

[soft musk]

so cool

[soft musk]

I was literally about to ask about that haha

[slim plume]

wow

[severe ridge]

Any tip on properly positioning items/stuff? i was able to make my custom made hair appear in game but its literally floating over the character's head lol :C

not even placeholder

[severe ridge]

nvmnd, doing it

[spark vector]

Were you able to figure it out?

@severe ridge ?

[willow estuary]

Rest in a vehicle with a mattress to recover endurance.

[drifting ore]

A vehicle with a freezer or oven sounds cool

[mystic prawn]

amazing

[severe ridge]

@spark vector not really, exporting hair sucks because there's the animation lines which the hair follows, I was able to use custom hair but everytime I try to implement those animations in the file the model doesn't loads, so not sure for now )':

[nimble spoke]

even importing a pz hair and trying to export it breaks everything

[spark vector]

that's good to know, I was thinking about attempting something related to hair so it's good to know that it's prohibitively difficult

[nimble spoke]

yeah, at least until we get a better importer/exporter

hopefully when they release their own software for modding clothes AnimZed? I forgot the name

[severe ridge]

yeah, there are some meshes parameters that needs to be configured relating to the actual mesh and animations and if they don't link they just break, and if you don't config those the hair works but it doesn't follow the body orientation, so it's beyond my knowledge lmao. tried so hard ;-; and got so far

those objects are probably used for those animation orientations

really wanted those waifu emo edgy hairs HAHAHHAHAAHHA

anything else is ok, the coding to make standalone hairs its easy and you can apply custom textures to each one as well. But saying that, i believe that the animations included in the models could be a way to add some degree of physics to hairs later on.

[willow estuary]

Who like gun racks? This bad boy will only hold rifles and shotgun.

[pastel estuary]

did a mockup of a boneworking table for a future weapons mod

[pastel estuary]

alright, so putting this into a lua file and calling the following returns a "object tried to call nil in createChildren" error at line 12 https://pastebin.com/8TxxfCrs

local test = BoneworkingTableWindow:new(100, 100)
test:addToUIManager()```

however, removing line 12 causes the dialog box to not have the close button

[drifting ore]

anyone knows a good tutorial for adding texture pack?

[pastel estuary]

I might actually just have my own close button

there's not really any minecraft-style crafting interfaces in the game anyway, may as well distinguish my crafting menus from regular dialogs

[vivid flare]

now that bags are visible in player hands, etc. how hard would it be to make usable riot shields etc? :>

[drifting ore]

any tutorial for making car ?

[drifting ore]

@vivid flare https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2091564445&searchtext= This has 2 riot shields

[pastel estuary]

alright, I figured out what my issue was, I used ISPanel:derive when I should have used ISCollapsableWindow:derive

I'm not sure what derive actually does, but w/e

[pastel estuary]

does anyone have any idea what the parameters are supposed to be for renderIsoCircle?

I think the first 3 are the xyz coordinates of the center, but I have no idea what the other 6 are

[shrewd grove]

Rim for an E30

which im adding soon

[severe ridge]

Rim World

[blissful meteor]

@shrewd grove oh yes please, I've been asking for someone to add an e30 forever

And an e34 later would be awesome

[willow estuary]

Vehicle Additions API that provides vehicular Gasoline Storage Tanks and Gun Racks for modders: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2094336923

Gun Racks in Some Trucks: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2094816565

[raw tulip]

ah.

@languid glen

[languid glen]

yes

now cut down a tree

[raw tulip]

ok fixed the position

[eternal stirrup]

@drifting ore https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/28633-complete-vehicle-modding-tutorial/

[raw tulip]

quick question about models

are we allowed to surpass an image size/UV unwrap of 128x128?

im making a sledgehammer model and im not sure if im allowed to add more detail to the model by simply increasing the texture map size. Im most familiar working with 1024x1024 and over

[vivid flare]

1k texture for models of this size is total overkill

[raw tulip]

1k and 2k textures for other games like counter strike, insurgency and such

im just wondering if i can up the UV to at least 256 or 512

[vivid flare]

well, the question is, is it worth the drop in performance

pz models are usually small and you cant make out lots of tiny details anyway. so a huge texture file would probably be a waste

[raw tulip]

thanks for the advice, i just stuck to the 128x anyway.
lets see if it goes well when trying to detail the sledge

[vivid flare]

tbh looks like it has way too many polygons for pz :>

[raw tulip]

the other sledge has 160 and 180

[steady forge]

Super nice

I liket it @raw tulip

[raw tulip]

you can get it from the workshop in just a moment, im setting things up 🙂
its done

[earnest prairie]

@raw tulip I dont know if you heard me on the Voice chat, but here is what I was talking about:
https://www.opticsplanet.com/blackhawk-tactical-backpack-kit-de-tbk-de-tbk-b.html

[raw tulip]

whats this for?

no i did not hear you in the voice chat

could you get me up to speed?

[earnest prairie]

Sorry it was a 2 second question when you asked about small things to mod

This is a dynamic entry kit which consists of an oversized Crowbar, Oversized Bolt cutters, 10 lbs Sledge (which you've created) for breaking down doors in a high threat situation

S

[raw tulip]

im not a programmer

sorry

[earnest prairie]

No i was suggesting just the models

[raw tulip]

ah is that so

[earnest prairie]

Yep Sorry

[raw tulip]

what should be modified to replace such?

[earnest prairie]

I think the Crowbar could be used but as far as the bolt Cutters, i dont know if ive seen them in game

[raw tulip]

i dont think bolt cutters exist, must be from a mod

[earnest prairie]

https://www.thepublicsafetystore.com/pro-bar-fire-hooks-unliminted-halligan-bar.html?gclid=CjwKCAjwte71BRBCEiwAU_V9h70RmfomeldxFFL6sc0LTmp-xgBAjtlVgNmGth88g20XnEmKJLtGphoCSjQQAvD_BwE

As for the crowbar

Just an idea

[raw tulip]

just a remodel of the crowbar into this?

[earnest prairie]

Ive tried and this old dog sucks at 3d rendering a circle

I would guess

[raw tulip]

how do you think i could get the tactical kit into the game?

[earnest prairie]

In the loot table spawn, limit it to police stations and large Police vehicles

as well as possibly Army Facilities

Keep it a rare loot

[raw tulip]

im not a programmer

[earnest prairie]

Understood

[tawdry siren]

How find hamster (Hydrocraft zomboid)

?

[severe ridge]

animal forage?

[raw tulip]

@earnest prairie

is it okay if i go for this?

adds a bit of colour to the object instead of being entirely metal

[upper junco]

This would also be a cool tool to add to game

[raw tulip]

what is that

[upper junco]

Slim jim

Opens locked cars

Police used to have them, not sure if they still do.

[earnest prairie]

Sure

The one i referenced was one of many designs

But yep that looks good

I was looking into ItemZed which is on the forums under locations

[raw tulip]

its done

[earnest prairie]

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/21923-itemzed-updated-11b/

Not sure if this will help

Cool!

[willow estuary]

I dunno if that works or not, although my money is that it doesn't, but using a crutch like that instead of engaging with and learning how to properly modify and expand the script and lua files will just fuck you over in the long run.

[raw tulip]

i guess its more relevant to topic to ask here [redirected from #pz_b42_chat]

should i do a remodel/remake of the handguns?
i dont use them at all because noise and ammo

the old models date way back to pre alpha and tech demo

question is. do these models that The Indie stone made have a rig
or bones
eg. slide release, magazine etc

i dont know how to export animations yet

if there are any for guns

im not exactly sure what the "pistol" is exactly

i know the deagle and 1911, but the pistol..... maybe some kinda walther gun

yeah

as i said, the pistol was made way back in the day

so its identity is kinda lost

i could just make a glock

yeah i suppose

classic

sad this wasnt in HLA

HLA has some kinda 1911 pistol

what mod is this you speak of?

blender, maya

no i have not

ill take a look

nice, quality of life improvements

[drifting ore]

what about making multipla car?

[raw tulip]

ive used the guns before, i dont remember seeing these models in game. probably because i just wasnt paying attention

[drifting ore]

what is this mod?

it looks awesome

[raw tulip]

its the vanilla game files

[drifting ore]

oh

it will come with new updates?

[raw tulip]

im pulling them from the game out and checking them out in their full model glory

[drifting ore]

oh ok

[raw tulip]

ive found all these guns in the gun store in west point
and the attachments on them, but i dont seem to remember seeing them appear on the model

[drifting ore]

the guns look awesome

[severe ridge]

dessert eagle, which is the old pistol model, m1911 which is just a retext/resize of the old pistol model and the m9 which feels too different from the other two because its higher quality lmao, the problem with high quality objects in the game is that they feel out of place sometimes or too small at some parts because of the drawing distance

[drifting ore]

and the ORGM mod Will come to the 41

[severe ridge]

i miss orgm so much

[drifting ore]

yeah its good

[severe ridge]

dessert eagle, great dish

[drifting ore]

i love eating shotgun barrel

[raw tulip]

ah ok

i like to make mods that dont "add" stuff to the game
but build upon it or improve it

[severe ridge]

hmm

[raw tulip]

as people may be uncomfortable with "adding abnormal stuff" to the game

and it requires code. im not a programmer

[severe ridge]

its easier to edit instead of adding

[raw tulip]

ya

[severe ridge]

but yeah, for items and models all you need to do is to make a mod folder with the required subfolders for the mod

mods just edits or adds stuff from the original files

[raw tulip]

this aspect of modding is right down my alley

[severe ridge]

i still wanna do something

[raw tulip]

colour a hat, easy

[severe ridge]

i went far on the hair models but i got cockblocked by the anims

[raw tulip]

hm...

i dont think that should cause any issues

[severe ridge]

whenever is possible i have two models to add already

but female :u lel

oh it does

the directX(.x) files for hairs comes with the animations merged to it

[raw tulip]

oh fuck

i get it now

[severe ridge]

if i cant load them to the actual mesh they wont be placed properly

so the furthest i got is hair that floats on the head but doesnt actually bends with the model

lmao

[raw tulip]

yeah i still havent figured out how to export animations, bones or rigs

if its even possible without the devs jumping on

[severe ridge]

or worse, you can have hair without proper origin point lol

its the blue thing floating all over there lol

[raw tulip]

haha waifu hair?

[severe ridge]

hHAHAHAHAA

[raw tulip]

whom is this?

[severe ridge]

yeaah

i did

twas a hair like Lain's hahaha

Hydrocraft is back and it makes me so hard, that's something im looking forward to create models for

[raw tulip]

the only thing i remember from hydrocraft is my mates looking for the north korean flag 😂

[severe ridge]

HAHAHAHAHA

you could put that fucker in a pole as well

be super territorial

lmaoe

is that a way to make projectiles better? the throwing (molotov, bombs etc) is like, really bad :f. Would be nice to see bows and throwing stuff (knifes,axes) to work nicely.

probably needs to be made as event, creating a new object that appears when thrown/shot that follows thrown/shot direction waiting to collide something following rules blablabla

and thats more code related to animations to calculate trajectory to point depending on place/force etc

otherwise is just free kills if it just goes straight (and ugly aesthetically)

[indigo hound]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2095174978

:3

[willow estuary]

Smoke Grenade model by Filibuster

[severe ridge]

fire in the hole

[willow estuary]

Smoke 'Em if You Got 'Em: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2095838582

[severe ridge]

tactical witch

[soft musk]

Someone's seen Fire Force

[severe ridge]

you can hook those nades on backpacks :y cool, i'm overloading with mods, love it.

[willow estuary]

Using a placeholder model right now, and the code needs some polishing, but this bad boy is fully functional.

[severe ridge]

make it so you can load shotgun shells but it blows your hand lmao, can you make a gun light up things

*?

[willow estuary]

I'm not going through the hassle of coding in firearms being able to accept multiple ammo types, but, aside from not being able to "fire" shotgun shells, this thing is fully functional in the way that you would expect a flare gun to be.

[drifting ore]

how to import the models into the blender

any help?

and i am using build 41

[drifting ore]

uhh how to upload mods in to the steam workshop

[raw tulip]

@drifting ore https://products.aspose.app/3d/conversion/x-to-obj

this is one way, another is to get a plugin/addon for blender

[drifting ore]

i maked the obj but how do i open in blender

[raw tulip]

import and export X models

[drifting ore]

i maked the plasticbag.obj

but how do i see on blender

ok nvm i found it

no i could see

when i import the obj just a cube comes

[severe ridge]

anyone knows if its possible for me to use custom meshes/textures to add models to hydrocraft?

Thinking about fixing the smithing weapons (like spears that doest works like in-game spears ) and adding models (most of them are the pool cue)

@drifting ore the cube is just a placeholder for new files, delete it on layers on the right upper panel. i usually delete the lights, cameras and such too when I'm just editing the mesh, don't know if they are saved together but i just avoid problemszzzz

@willow estuary i wuz joking ;-;

[drifting ore]

The witch hat looks really cool

[abstract raptor]

Who wants to help me make the most epic mod

[severe ridge]

what is it lmao

[abstract raptor]

It'll involve:

1. a 3x3 cell map with a cell sized building at the center
2. a radio mod that deletes all the vanilla radio and adds a sort of story mode that refers to places on the map and gives directions and advice
3. a custom item mod to create story based items and a video-gamey money system, where zombies will drop "soul coins" you can trade in for items to help you.
4. Whatever else we can think of!

I'm doing the mapping as I speak ; currently working on the main building.

It's a sequel to my Maze Challenge map; The story will blur the lines between paranormal and science fiction -- focusing on a government facility that experiments with the afterlife and powerful demonic entities.

(if you're interested in helping with anything or have suggestions or whatever, send me a message 😄 )

[severe ridge]

wow, i wasn't expecting something that big and awesome D: i wish i could code for that but i can barely do models and textures

[abstract raptor]

@severe ridge if you can't help with the code you can always help with the writing ! 🙂

Or make buildings or help plan

[willow estuary]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2096738854

[naive tusk]

^ spread fire ?

[willow estuary]

I don't make half-assed mods.

[pastel estuary]

more work on the Boneworking Table

[abstract raptor]

@willow estuary I don't half ass shit

[willow estuary]

I didn't say you did.

[abstract raptor]

then why mention that you don't make half ass mods?

no one prompted you to say that

it seems like a jab at me

[willow estuary]

spread fire ?

[pastel estuary]

that inventory interface is not an ISScrollingListBox; I would make it an ISInventoryPage or some similar object if I understood how that UI element works

[abstract raptor]

ok i apologize then, I must be paranoid

ugh

[pastel estuary]

but I don't, so it's a bunch of ISResizableButtons and ISRichTextLabels and ISButtons

[abstract raptor]

(stupid mental illness making me think everyone's out to get me and embarrassing myself in front of people)

[pastel estuary]

f

[willow estuary]

Don't sweat it.

[abstract raptor]

I legit have schizoaffective I really do apologize if that makes me come off as toxically insecure

[willow estuary]

Yeah, don't worry about it. Delete the posts if it'll make you feel better?

Ahahaha, also I lied, the hack job Flare Gun "model" I have in this mod is pretty damn half-assed. 😄

[severe ridge]

cant i create mods on mac? :l it says blabla no other stuff than folders on contents/ folder but even the modtemplate is having the same error.... maybe something related to mac folders? halp lol

[raw tulip]

windows master race

[severe ridge]

ikr

/cries

[raw tulip]

F

[severe ridge]

maybe is .DS_store hidden files?

nope

no idea

[drifting ore]

funniest shit i ve ever seen

[lavish adder]

make a mod where Pickle Rick is a lootable food item

[eternal stirrup]

It would be quite easy just to edit the existing pickle texture xd

[willow estuary]

Nothing fancy so-much, but I just solved a technical hurdle that makes "mod pack mods" a more versatile, with being able to set multiple require/dependencies for a mod.

Practically speaking it means stuff like my Advanced Gear mod bundle can have a LOT more content in them now that I can do stuff like interface it with Nolan's Armor mod, and Eris' NVG mod. Pew Pew!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2050264961

[soft musk]

Oh so this includes all those other mods then or am I misunderstanding

[willow estuary]

It includes the content of several other of my mods, while also modifying/patching the content of other, multiple, mods by other authors.

[soft musk]

So then I should probably unsubscribe from say, smoke grenades, kukri etc to prevent conflicts correct?

[willow estuary]

No; that shouldn't be an issue. The kukri files in both the kukri mod and advanced gear, for example, are identical, and won't cause conflicts.

If you have both the kukri mod and advanced gear subscribed, when you activate the kukri mod it uses the files in the kukri mod, and when you activate the advanced gear mod it uses the files in the advanced gear mod. Even if you have both activated, the files should be identical.

TLDR version: it's designed to avoid any such problems, and you should be able to subscribe/activate both the mod bundle, or the individual mods w/o issues.

[soft musk]

Ah such it's just simple a redundant thing then, if I remove the kukri mod or smoke grenades I'll still have them due to yours, it's really nice you made in such a way it doesn't cause conflicts.

[willow estuary]

Yeah, exactly! Deliberate redundancy. Thanks 🙂

[soft musk]

I have one last question if you don't mind, when subscribing it states that the armor mod and NVG mods are requirements, is that true?

I saw that Item Tweaker is mandatory, but i already have that due to other mods so.

[willow estuary]

Yes; those are new now that the technical issue I mentioned has been solved.
The intent being that AG server as a Hydrocraft-style bundle of equipment/gear mods, while also providing people the option to just use individual components.

[soft musk]

Ohhh so I think I understand what you mean, thanks for the info.

[iron salmon]

FYI: We've added B40 and B41 version tags to the Steam Workshop so mods can be tagged for which version of the game they are for/compatible with.

Should show in the workshop tags soon-ish. Migh require a cache clear of the browser if it doesn't show up for too long.

[iron salmon]

Thanks to @cold swift for bringing it up again

[willow estuary]

Is there any documentation on how to add tags to PZ workshop items @iron salmon ? I can't find anything PZ-specific on Google, and my attempts o add them to the tag field in workshop.txt so far have proven ineffectual.

[pastel estuary]

wouldn't it be safer to redefine individual functions as opposed to redistributing the entirety of someone else's code?

at least in lua/client/eris_nvg.lua, it seems to be a near identical copy of the one in eris_nightvision_goggles

[willow estuary]

Probably, but I have Eris' permission to use their code, and this is also a free hobbyist resource made by an amateur stoner so these things happen.

Generally with patches, when I use the entirety of a file in lieu of just individual functions there has been some technical issue that I don't understand where I do it that way because "it just works".

And although I ordinarily endeavor to not cut and paste code, I consider patches to be a separate instance.

[pastel estuary]

hmm, there's an OnPreGameStart event defined in LuaEventManager but it's never used

[willow estuary]

Eris has been credited; I have their permission; the NVG patch won't function unless you have Eris' original mod installed and running.

And also I can't be bothered to go back over something I did when I was stoned at 3 am a month and a half ago and sort out what the 15 lines I added to that file are.

[pastel estuary]

what would it even be used for

[willow estuary]

Beats me; I'm stoned all the time and don't get paid to do this 😄

[iron salmon]

It's the other way around for me

[willow estuary]

😢

[willow estuary]

Feel the Burn....
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2097498737

[raw tulip]

fuck i cant get the tris low enough

pls help

the polys are pretty good without triangulating the model but still.

614 tris is double of the existing model in the game

i suppose i could remove the ejection port and just texture that on since the pistol is pretty tiny in game

[mystic prawn]

Rip

[steady forge]

The thing in the back

[raw tulip]

auto seer

g18 auto, fun gun

otherwise, will doubling the tris affect performance on the pistol? its tiny so..

[steady forge]

And maybe can rest definition to the iron sights, the default model have ones super basics.

[raw tulip]

hm.....

what im worried about is, if there is a time when pz has better.... model viewing

such as zooming in father than the current 25%

D E T A I L S

of course, games need to be optimized, but i hate to leave out small details

[severe ridge]

glock is a square come on

lmao

se if theres disposable stuff inside the model

[raw tulip]

there isnt

ive cleared that all out

[severe ridge]

D:

such a nice pew pew tho

how it works? theres a polygon limit?

i got so many low poly weapons packs lmao

love assets

[raw tulip]

well the more polygons/tris the more the game has to handle

the games 9mm pistol has 280

while mine can go up to 600

[severe ridge]

hm

[raw tulip]

which is double, not good for optimization

im sure the game can handle it
im just asking around whether its okay

[severe ridge]

yeah... maybe remove parts, make the barrel more polygonal, remove button, back and make sights one part

[raw tulip]

but... D E T A I L S

rip 😂

[severe ridge]

the finger protection at the trigger can be more raw as well

ikr :/

but theres so much detail you can see with the drawing distance within pz lmao

dont worry

try to draw some details into the texture

instead meshing the parts

[raw tulip]

hm.

i guess thats for the better

[severe ridge]

or just leave it like it, i dont think that would slow the game terribly or smth

looks good, u made it?

[raw tulip]

ya

[severe ridge]

cool, love guns c:

imma try to make one as well

just dont know which one would be nice to see

[raw tulip]

its totally illegal but, im gonna replace the m16 model with an ak

[severe ridge]

illegal?

[raw tulip]

the m16 fires 5.56

[raw tulip]

the ak dosent

[severe ridge]

7.62

[raw tulip]

but the m16 in game fires so slow

it could be subbed for the ak

[severe ridge]

depends on ur aiming lvl too

the speed

[raw tulip]

nah

i tested it

if you hold the trigger down

[severe ridge]

its funny because it starts shooting fast and slowss down

[raw tulip]

it gets slower and slower fire rate

ya

[severe ridge]

yeahhh

lmaao

[raw tulip]

not even 800rpm like most ar-15 platform weapons

[severe ridge]

like erectile dysfunction gun

a realistic full auto wep would be too op i think

[raw tulip]

so yeah, im gonna do the most illegal/cursed thing
modding the m16 into an ak

[severe ridge]

just clearing the zombiemen

why not both 8)

[raw tulip]

the only full sized full auto is the m16

the 9mm pistol can be full auto too

so i made a glock

[severe ridge]

pew pews

[raw tulip]

ah yes

im thinking if i should put an akm or an ak12 to replace the m16

[severe ridge]

ak74?

not 47?

[raw tulip]

akm, ak74, ak47 same thing for now

i know they are different but generally speaking

i dont like the wood ak's i like modern ak12

[severe ridge]

yeah, i think about plastic with the 74 and wood with the 47

[raw tulip]

you know what

you're right

im just gonna try it right now as it is

600 tris isnt much

i hope

[severe ridge]

itss not

[raw tulip]

its a tiny pistol

[severe ridge]

otherwie the game would slow withing 3 guns on screen

otherwisse

fk

[raw tulip]

hm...

[severe ridge]

my keyboard sucks

[raw tulip]

i wonder if ORGM will suffer what im going through

[severe ridge]

na

free assets, low poly

they can go low as 200

[raw tulip]

fuck man

thats low af 😂

[severe ridge]

resolution was smaller before 41 tho

more pixely

[raw tulip]

oh thats true

[severe ridge]

orgm weapons were almost 2d

lmao

[raw tulip]

ohhhhh

[severe ridge]

now we gonna have the cute version prob

i hope

but yeah, im kinda saturated already, need multiplayer to hype on modding again

i cant even post mods because im having problems with mac

fuck mac

[raw tulip]

Apple rip

windows master race

[severe ridge]

https://img.itch.zone/aW1hZ2UvMzk5NTUyLzE5ODAyMTgucG5n/original/aOzeqd.png

lmao

[raw tulip]

nice

[severe ridge]

its like. black

bu theres red and wwhite beans on the texture for the selection

[nimble spoke]

I feel ya, updating all my mods to build41 isn't even finished yet and I had to take a break

[raw tulip]

hmmmm I got an idea

I'm gonna make skins for this Glock I'm making

I wonder how I could get that to work with the workshop

[severe ridge]

can you

use the clothing variables

to apply different textures to weapons

8l

[raw tulip]

I'm not a programmer

[severe ridge]

like randomized chance between some skins

[raw tulip]

I'm not sure how I'd do that

I'm thinking of uploading the mod with no textures

and seperating the textures into another mod

so people can pick and choose what skin they want

but I fear people may call me out for workshop spam

[severe ridge]

clothing items have

<m_MasksFolder>media/textures/Clothes/Hat/Masks</m_MasksFolder>
<textureChoices>summerhat</textureChoices>
<textureChoices>summerhatpink</textureChoices>
<textureChoices>summerhatstripe</textureChoices>

idk if texture choices would work the same for guns

[nimble spoke]

I have not tried to give texture options to hand items, but I know the system isn't limited to the clothing type

in theory the limitation we have now for adding new clothes should not apply in this case, that is new GUID entries

what I did try was to apply item icons and they didn't work, even when the textures did. But in this case I was wearing the item

[raw tulip]

oof this model looks really bad

but its more efficient now

lowered it around 100 tris

ill texture it to cheat its appearance

im sticking with the finer details such as the sight and barrel

i removed the ejection port

this model makes me vomit
but its a small price to pay for salvation

[steady forge]

Looks nice

[raw tulip]

texturing will hide this mess

[vivid flare]

remove the mag as well

nobody will see this

same about the trigger

it's too tiny

and the small round thing at the end of the hammer(?)

[raw tulip]

thats the auto seer

glock 18

[willow estuary]

Almost none of that fine detailing will be properly visible at maximum zoom.

[vivid flare]

yup

[severe ridge]

https://img.itch.zone/aW1hZ2UvMzk5NTUyLzE5ODA2MDEucG5n/original/TODpWk.png

thats more 1911-ish

[nimble spoke]

pz is the opposite of an FPS, you can have less details than goldeneye 007 had and it will be perfect

as long as the overall shape and colors match

[raw tulip]

there

basic colours of the areas

272 polygons/quads, 512 tris

ill do a quick test

[willow estuary]

Yeah, agreed with Soulfilcher; the PZ characters models don't even have fingers.

[raw tulip]

they kinda do

if you look hard enough

[drifting ore]

@raw tulip you made this glock up here?

[raw tulip]

yes

but ive had to scale it down a few times

[drifting ore]

its looking beatiful

[raw tulip]

and optimize it a bunch

im not really used to really low poly models

[drifting ore]

it looks good

[raw tulip]

its too simple

but pz demands simplicity

[drifting ore]

but i love that

i think its not too simple

and i have a fricing problem on my right ear

my right ear cant hold my heaphone

headphone goes up

and youtube premium is shit

[severe ridge]

nice pew pewer

[drifting ore]

pew pewer?

[raw tulip]

im not that happy with it

but its fine

[severe ridge]

best name ive come with

looks like the nintendo glock but the mesh is just fine

what ur not happy with?

[drifting ore]

@raw tulip its fine man you can do it better

[severe ridge]

once i figure out how to upload mods ill make some custom weapons too

[raw tulip]

ah...

[severe ridge]

lmao

origin point

[raw tulip]

ya

melee weapons are different

[severe ridge]

looks so good in game wew

how so?

[raw tulip]

i need to export melee weapons up

[severe ridge]

some models follow the body animations, idk how to deal with that

oh yeah

[raw tulip]

the pistol needs to point a different direction

[severe ridge]

the come flipped upwards

[raw tulip]

wtf

time to flip it again

[severe ridge]

spin to win

[raw tulip]

and yes you do see the small details, at least i see them. @willow estuary @vivid flare

its a nice touch

ill keep it

[vivid flare]

i would do it in texture

[raw tulip]

its my first gun model for pz so this is nice

i suppose

[severe ridge]

it is uwu

[drifting ore]

rotflol you want a gun for modelling?

[severe ridge]

can someone send me a mod template? :l i swear im doing everything right

even my mod template is not working

[raw tulip]

well dammit.

the only problem i have right now is rigging

until i get that figured out along with exporting animations and rigs

this will remain broken

[severe ridge]

if you get to know about rigging hook me up pls lmaoe

lots of items are

[raw tulip]

looks like this mod is getting shelved

rip

hey can you open .zip files?

ill send you the file structure if you can access it

[drifting ore]

i can open .zip

[raw tulip]

@severe ridge

[severe ridge]

ye

[raw tulip]

wait

so whats your issue?

exactly?

you cannot see the mod in the workshop screen when you boot pz?

or some other issue?

[severe ridge]

ok

still having the same issue

[raw tulip]

haha looks like its from unturned

[severe ridge]

ive tried seeing hidden mac files, no .DS_store or anything :f must be smth

[raw tulip]

hm.

[severe ridge]

lmaoe

[raw tulip]

i had a similar issue with my workshop folder a while ago

[severe ridge]

cs:go low

[raw tulip]

but im on windows so...

the issue i had was: NOT the "WORKSHOP" folder in your steamapps/common/project zomboid

use user/Project zomboid/workshop

a ModTemplate will be in there, that was my issue

but... does mac have a user/project zomboid folder?

[severe ridge]

yep, all of them

theres the user workshop and app workshop folders

[raw tulip]

C:\Users\Admin\Zomboid\Workshop\ModTemplate\Contents\mods\ModTemplate\media\maps\ModTemplateWorld1

hm...

im not sure how to help you. i am sorry

[severe ridge]

ill find a way, thank you ❤️

[soft musk]

Odd question, when an error is thrown is there any easy way to search through the line of text to find them/find what mod causes the error? What I mean is something like using the search function and searching for specific text to see where the errors are instead of scrolling through it all.

[raw tulip]

watch the tris spiral out of control as the project goes on....

(existing in game D-E pistol, 284 tris)

hm... turns out you CAN use textures outside of the 128x resolution

so i can cheat the model this time with a bit of trial and error 😮

[raw tulip]

i think ive improved at the low poly optimisation

i got it to almost 200 tris!

[marsh beacon]

Nice

[raw tulip]

added 30 tris to fix some texturing issues

heres a quick colour layout

heres a comparison

yeah i guess the existing pistol has more detail and looks more realistic

mine looks more game-y, something youd see from unturned

ill have to work on the texture more

[steady forge]

Maybe you can get a texture from a GTA SA mod, some ones are prety game-y

Or you can tray to use the default texture.

[raw tulip]

massive deagle

[mystic prawn]

Owo

Sexy

[raw tulip]

not sure if ill ever release these remodels

until i learn how to fix the muzzleflash issue

[drifting ore]

hi guys

is there something wrong with this mod.info file?

name=Normandy, France
poster=poster.png
id=normandy
description=A map of Normandy
tiledef=tiledefinitionsnormandy 201
pack=normandynewtiles.pack

the pack does'nt seem to load for some reasons

and can anyone confirm that when doing a texture pack

[willow estuary]

I believe that there is an issue with pack files for mods, and that a fix may be forthcoming?

[drifting ore]

you have to feed separate png for each texture

I believe that there is an issue with pack files for mods, and that a fix may be forthcoming?
@willow estuary

oh really

you mean with IWBUM?

[willow estuary]

Yeah, I think I saw something about that?

[drifting ore]

is that the only way to add new tiles in game?

also, I dont seem to make it work on non IWBUM

i think I'm doing something wrong

it's driving me crazy

@willow estuary what about your mod? from memory you had custom tiles too no?

[willow estuary]

Naw, I haven't touched that stuff yet, aside from experimenting in worlded/buildinged.

@drifting ore although I was about to try some tile stuff for a mod; I take it this issue makes that a no-go?

You aren't able to somehow have your tiles work if they're pngs and not in a pack?

[drifting ore]

sooo

i think i'm the one fucking up

I would not be surprised at all if you made it work

• i believe you are much more knowledgeable than i am

[raw tulip]

whats your problem?

[drifting ore]

the only thing i can deal with really is map making

[raw tulip]

cant see the item on the game>workshop screen?

[drifting ore]

@raw tulip let me show you

well i can describe

I have added my new tiles, made a new definitino (on a separate file)

then i have chopped all the tiles into separate png

made a .pack out of this

added in the proper directory the proper files

[raw tulip]

hm.. im not a mapper so im not sure about this

sorry mate

[drifting ore]

and modified the mod.info

@raw tulip thats alright

thank you anyway

i will finish describing the problem, if anyone can help

ANYWAY, when I try to see the new tiles in game : i get a black tile for the floor, and no tile for the walls

[raw tulip]

so before i release my deagle mod, anyone got ideas for weapon finishes?

gold

stainless

black

tiger stripe

fireball (blaze)

fade

im actually going to release it, even though i said i was gonna shelve the project

[drifting ore]

the faze niko finish

with flames

[raw tulip]

im not exactly sure what that is, ill google it

oh

[drifting ore]

let me show you

[raw tulip]

that fire deagle got it

[drifting ore]

ah alright

[raw tulip]

yeah i got that

[raw tulip]

lads.

i need some help deciding which flames look better

well, the actual question is how much flames

its hard to notice, the flames are slightly farther down the barrel, pretty much reaching the trigger guard

or... if i should even shorten the flames a bit more

and another thing, is this too... yellow?

its the correct karat so it should be fine, but it looks pretty yellow to me

[upper junco]

Seeing that just brought back memories of the Golden Gun from Goldeneye. Old n64 days.

[craggy furnace]

it begins

[pastel estuary]

@willow estuary very nice

[indigo hound]

Update!!!!!

its mod*

[naive tusk]

👍

[slow spade]

@indigo hound Как по мне иконки слишком большие в сравнении с остальными ванильными

[indigo hound]

ну ток средняя канистра

потом уменьшу. ибо еще норм обложку рисовать)

@slow spade

тыж не смотри на канистру ванильную. Ибо канистра эта вообще предмет. Ты сравнивай с ЮИ от радиального меню машины

[severe ridge]

pizdec

[vital lynx]

Guys, it will be hard to replace zombies with animals (bears for example) and make them spawn at forest only with different loot like meat, hides and stuff from hydrocraft mod?

[severe ridge]

that sounds like a lot of scripting lmaoz

they're probably going to use spawn for animals (if they ever come around) kinda like that other option instead of urban focused but with it's own values blablabla

[willow estuary]

Technically not completely impossible, in that you could, in theory, change some clothing models into a bear costume, and have some zombies in the forest in bear costumes, and even have the hydrocraft stuff spawn on them at death.

But they would still act like zombies, and make the same sounds as zombies, and have the same animations as zombies, and game wise be identical to zombies, aside from being in bear suits and spawning the meat, etc.

But that would be an absurd amount of work to make some half-assed fake bears.

[proud spruce]

That never stopped anyone before.

[willow estuary]

They would not act, or look like bears in the least.

[proud spruce]

Goodness, I just realized I've been away from this so long I've never seen the new clothing models yet.

Gotta look up how those work and how to make things spawn with them.

[vital lynx]

@willow estuary why not replace zed models completely? theres is car mods only, but no npc replacers still

[willow estuary]

What zombie models? As far as I can see, the player and the zombies use the same model.

[vital lynx]

same ids?

[willow estuary]

Again, even if you replaced the model it would still act like a zombie.

[vital lynx]

you can script it later

[proud spruce]

That's basically the difference. Cars were made with different models in mind (and later in development when they had better practices nailed down) so they have stuff built in to mod them.

Not sure how much of the AI is even exposed to script something like a bear.

[willow estuary]

I have put a ton of work into modifying zombies, and, mod wise, you can't script their behaviour aside from the most superficial fashion.

[vital lynx]

its hardcoded?

[willow estuary]

The ai isn't exposed.

You can do some pathfinding, and a couple other minor things, but that's it.

[vital lynx]

I see

[willow estuary]

Like, if you want a bear hunting simulator you can either wait until build 42, play another game, or play b41 pz with zombies acting like zombies in bear costumes.

[proud spruce]

Most of it is very much hardcoded. And even then, if you modified it, you'd be editing zombies not adding things on top of zombies.

(and that's presuming it can be modified, which would be very hacky and not multiplayer compatible.)

[willow estuary]

People don't put up with those incredibly lame Hydrocraft cardboard cutout animals because nobody had bothered trying to add actual proper 3d animals; people put up with it because that's all you can do for animals right now.

[vital lynx]

I just thought you can replace models with its own animation and change few behaviors like preventing to go through windows. They still reminds of an animals - they scratch you, bite you..

[willow estuary]

I mean, if you really want some sort of pve bear fighting game, honestly there are a bunch of games that already have bears in them?

Or just wait until build 42.

[vital lynx]

sure, i just wait 42

[severe ridge]

Today i learned scaling and merging lmao

always pack that THANG

yeah, im playing with blackbeard's mod, he's probably doing a better mp5 soon, i miss having to manage gun variety lel

[severe ridge]

the best i could do for a mp5 in this animation pose, for now :v

it's T H I C C

[proud spruce]

Quick question because I've been away: Is there an attribute in items to have them use a different graphic while on the ground?

I seem to recall there being one but it having some sort of issue with it not working (either all the time or for certain items).

[severe ridge]

im not sure, it seems that almost all (melee and ranged) weapons, even from mods appears as models in the ground, including helmets. i don't know where the behaviour comes from tho x.x

[proud spruce]

That's probably just derived from it being something that has a model at all.

[severe ridge]

hmmmm

[proud spruce]

ie, Equipment meant to be shown on a character.

[severe ridge]

i dont remember trying to throw cabbages at the ground

[proud spruce]

(Which sounds new to me.)

[severe ridge]

but they do have a model for eating

like apples too

there must be a way, but im pretty sure its separated by item groups (and available model)

[proud spruce]

Well I'm more asking for anything that doesn't use a model.

[severe ridge]

if there's no model its invisible

[proud spruce]

Though that's got its own questions as I have to catch up on what even has/uses models now.

[severe ridge]

theres no placeholder

but still can be used tho

[proud spruce]

I mean like these

They show their icon on the ground.

[severe ridge]

yeah, but magazines have models

but i dont know if their models are like