mod_development

[willow tulip]

Animals excessively existing and dropping your FPS to <1: Less awesome.

I don't know how they managed that and apparently neither do they because its still a problem to this very day, despite them adding random functions to try and mask the bug instead of fixing it

I saw a report just the other week about a dude who named all his chickens unique names and some of them started duplicating

[near vessel]

Do chickens still duplicate if they die inside the hutch?

You'd get like all the bodies dropping outside, then you still have to pull them out

I just want shit to be fixed

[willow tulip]

shrugs

I haven't bothered with chickens since long before I wrote my realistic cooking mod because it takes 30 eggs a day to survive, and cooking 30 eggs a day into evolved recipes is pure repeative stress injury.

[near vessel]

Nutrition, where like it kinda doesn't really matter at all or something

[willow tulip]

decided at this point only the people who suffer through my inane rants get to use my mods, so I don't release any of them from moons mods pack.

[willow tulip]

yea I rewrote nutrition too. Needs more playtesting and feedback and I still have some minor issues with how to balance weight loss while still consuming fats

Does simulate rabbit starvation though (eating too much protein without any fats so your body can make carbohydrates from them)

and attempts to at least make your carbo level matter via a small endurance regen buff/debuff

also, rebalanced meats and stuff such that if you ate NOTHING but meats to satsify hunger, you would get fat (same with milk), because they give more calories then you need to survive per hunger

So that there is actually some point in having more then 1 food source

[near vessel]

Nutrition where the type of food being eaten matters?

Go figure

[willow tulip]

Also briefly had a boredom system where if you ate the same food over and over your character would get bored of it and complain. but was kinda pointless with how pointless boredom is

[near vessel]

Boredom is weird to me, does it affect timed actions?

[willow tulip]

at least added some RP factor. Might readd it to my nutrition overhaul mod and have it factor into some kinda 'health' factor that provides other buffs/debuffs

At 100% boredom you start getting unhappy IIRC

[near vessel]

But actions should... Reduce boredom

Ahh

[willow tulip]

but basically if you just walk outside all your boredom disappears IIRC

[near vessel]

I can't remember ever getting bored in game, at least for very long

[willow tulip]

thats why

[near vessel]

Except for corn stew

The stew of literal depression

[willow tulip]

Basically you only get bored if you sit in your base all day long and never even walk around outside of it.

[willow tulip]

that was always dumb too, I deleted that 'feature' in realistic cooking -_-

Damn near insulting for autistic people too.

Honestly considered adding a 'autistic' eater trait to my food mod that would make you unhappy if you didn't eat the same couple things all the time.

You'd basically need to find a stable source of a few foods and be unable to just randomly eat stuff you find

(or at least, get very unhappy about it)

that'd prob be how id die in a zombie apocolypse: Plenty of food in neighbors houses but its all 'eww Iv never even tried that but im pretty sure I wouldn't like it!'

Realistic cooking instead works basically by always adding happyness to all foods, but the amount of happyness scales down with how much of an ingredient you add (via exponent factor), so like adding 10x of an ingredient only gets you like 3x happyness

so to get the MOST happyness outta your food you want to either make small batches (takes longer, presumably you put more effort into prep and stuff) or add multiple ingredients

[near vessel]

Yeah idk why theres a need for boredom and unhappiness stat with food

I can maybe understand boredom, bland food can suck

[willow tulip]

yea I don't get upset with my stew just because I made... a bigger batch of stew.

and that goes back to the 30 egg issue.... you'd have to make 15+ meals outta it (for 1 days calories) to avoid unhappyness

EXCEPT with high cooking skill, you don't even use an entire egg per 'ingredient' so you now end up with a bunch of leftover.. partial eggs

that if you add to your meal, cause unhappyness.. cause it already has egg?

[near vessel]

Partial eggs

Partial eggs.

[willow tulip]

Yes I always save 1/4th of every egg I crack open and put them back into the egg carton.. BECAUSE IM A MONSTER

[near vessel]

Ykw maybe they do need to rewrite cooking from scratch

[willow tulip]

Totally how that works, and absolutely I wanted more RSI from now requiring twice as many clicks to feed myself every day.

[willow tulip]

Literally what Realistic Cooking mod is

[near vessel]

And nutrition

[willow tulip]

Literally what Realistic Nutrition is

they could hire me and have all this work, but im sure the devs absolutely loath me at this point.

[near vessel]

Ughhh and then it'll just be implemented anyways like 10 years down the line I bet

Yeah I keep thinking of things and I'm just realizing that they didn't fully flesh out the systems around animals

Feels kinda like they were added to b42 just because they said b42 would have them

[willow tulip]

yea, Who on earth wrote a complicated genetic system and then didn't even bother to test if butchering worked correctly?

and didn't expose ANY of the genetics to the player, even at level 10 animal handling.

literally the only visible effect is 20% of players complain their eggs don't hatch because they have NO CLUE WHATSOEVER that thier rooster is infertile

... and the rooster killed any other fertile rooster

[near vessel]

They should really remove infertility

I don't know WHY we would ever need that

[willow tulip]

remove the whole genetic system since its basically hidden behind RNG of...everything

[near vessel]

Just make it an animal info option or something

Wanna castrate your bull? Sweet

[near vessel]

I like the idea of genetics in the vein of appearance

[willow tulip]

we seriously don't need genetics in a game where our saves get bricked every month.

[near vessel]

But we only ever get 2 variants anyways so ...

Why

We don't need it right now

Do you want black pig or pink pig

[willow tulip]

Its not like you can tell what chicken layed what egg, or how many, or whatever. or if it dies young, or is fat, or thin, or whatever.

[near vessel]

Trick question, no pig

[near vessel]

You see that's something they actually should implement in the game if they do genetics properly

[willow tulip]

and even if you could butcher them you can't tell if it was big or small because meat is 50% RNG

[near vessel]

Because unless they're the exact same breed of chicken you can totally tell

We should at least have brown eggs

Idk I just dislike the current animal system

Its a feature to add features

[willow tulip]

its pointlessly overcomplicated and buggy due to never being tested/balanced whatsoever.

get the BASICS of raising animals working, THEN add features.

Right now they can't even keep the number of chickens you have straight

[near vessel]

Atp they just gotta copy the Minecraft method of animal husbandry lol

[willow tulip]

Like, focus on basic loading/saving of data first

[near vessel]

Have animals? Get more animals

[willow tulip]

and not randomly duplicating animals

or having them disappear for no good reason

(with all sandbox options for predators and such turned off even)

[near vessel]

Disable animals attacking enclosures too

Unless they already did

[willow tulip]

they do 10,000 damage btw.

[near vessel]

Because that's just a bad mechanic

[willow tulip]

or something insane like that.

[near vessel]

Literally 10k?

[willow tulip]

yes

[near vessel]

I know it's insane but jesus

Ehy

What is the point

[willow tulip]

so they can wreck your shit and make you regret ever taking that stupid bull home, just before it gores you and ends your run

[near vessel]

This just encourages players to keep them inside generated tiles (indoors)

[willow tulip]

yea, Can't build ANYTHING yourself or zombies can wreck it

[near vessel]

I have a mod installed for it but that shouldn't even need a mod

[near vessel]

I hate that too

[willow tulip]

building a base is literally a huge DISADVANTAGE in PZ

Because nothing you ever build is going to be 1/10th as good as just boarding up some windows in the shittyest house you can find

[near vessel]

You can't even set infinite health on buildables

Which is wack

Its just increased durability

Why not make them indestructible

[willow tulip]

Yep. And it takes so much resources, your wasting time you could have been put into something else...

and boarding up windows/etc does NOTHING of value

[near vessel]

Players still need doors

[willow tulip]

it just delays zombies and makes you stressed as they thump on it (though I think they FINALLY removed that stress BS)

but maybe they only removed it for fences I dunno

can't even make good fences

So once they are wrecked... well, RIP that location.

Like at least some mods made it where zombies hurt themselfs thumping on stuff so that boarded up windows have SOME value

but with absolutely 0 defensive structures in the game.. you might as well not even bother.

do zombies even take damage from barbed wire fences? or is that a player only thing.

[near vessel]

I haven't tested barbed wire

[willow tulip]

I think maybe I once saw a zombie die from going through a window and landing on broken glass.

[near vessel]

Because I know it'll last like 5 zeds

[willow tulip]

but I dunno if that actually happened or if it was just a bug

I honestly suspect its more likely to have been a bug

[near vessel]

And barrels are basically paper

Idk how we don't have spiked barricades

[willow tulip]

barbed wire also takes an entire roll of wire to make

[near vessel]

Definitely a bug

I've never seen it

[willow tulip]

like, last I checked the reason barbed wire fences exist is because they are CHEAP TO MAKE

[willow tulip]

I think the guy had already been fighting that zombie and ended up running away

so it might have been at low health already

definately doesn't happen with full health zombies. iv never seen one just die

and iv only seen the zombie die after going through a window once in 1000 hours of playtime

heaven forbid we get any kind information about the zombies health, even as a sandbox option

they don't have any kinda injured animations, they don't get bloody, or crippled aside from becoming crawlers at random

Imagine if you could cut off a zombies arm and then beat him to death with it.

Theres no way to tell a tough/high health zombie from a weak/low health zombie, as the RNG obscures it

Far too much RNG everywhere, far to little feedback to the player to tell him if hes doing things right/wrong

and the conga line just makes it impossible to actually pick out a zombie to attack and kill

also makes it impossibe to actually get surrounded unless a zombie wanders in from off screen

watching someone kite the same zombies around back and forth is sooooooo boring.

they have 0 ability to force you to go somewhere you don't wanna go, the player has 100% of the ability to lead them... anywhere he wants. (And yet people still look at me like iv grown 3 heads when I tell them to try and lead the zombies... away from the thing they wanna loot)

[near vessel]

I personally set every zombie stat to random honestly, but I recognize that having no indicator for which zombies are what (other than their speed) is not the greatest

And maybe tough zombies wouldn't necessarily look different, but I have no way of knowing how many times I gotta whack a randomly assigned tough zed before it goes down

Because there's no indication of damage

[dull moss]

found this gem in my code

[vast pier]

placeholder textures

[queen oasis]

infinitely more helpful than my gibberish

[dull moss]

ye but the funny part was that petting animal is a timed action that doesn't call perform() on self for some reason

maybe they fixed it by this point

that's back from when b42 rolled out

[queen oasis]

I mean, I wrote out 3 timed actions a week or so back and 100% forgot that everything was done in complete now. it was an easy fix after the long, arduous task of "wtf is wrong with this"

[vast pier]

also functional as a weapon without a head

[rotund hazel]

hey all, looking to add a variant vehicle kinda like the VanSeats_Mural that are already in game - is this as simple as doing something like table.insert(ProfessionVehicles.VanSeats_Mural, "Base.VanSeats_Custom") (not the actual name) along with a vehicle .txt to define the textures?

or do i have the wrong idea

I did some digging before asking here, but a lot of the resources I found were more related to modeling/texturing custom cars - i'm just looking to add a vanilla retexture basically w/ similar spawn rates as existing rare vans

[sharp vine]

So im currently trying to make a patch for the Week One (MP) and i already did it for 42.16 and now 42.17 is out and the required mod im using is Bandits (42.16) i think, its not updated since i lasted checked today. Would I have to also update bandits mod before updating the week one (MP) mod?

[vast pier]

Depends on if it needs to be updated for the new build or if it functions fine

[sharp vine]

From what im reading the bandit mods are causing alot of errors so something might be broken in what "my" mod is depending on to work. (The mod wasnt originally built or created by me btw)

[vast pier]

Yeah if the parent mod is giving errors then you might just need to wait for that to update

[sturdy tinsel]

thank you too for this :D

[sacred radish]

I spoke to him about it.

[jolly thorn]

so, I wanted to get a player's character object that just joined to assign an id so that I can tie some data to it, settled on OnCreateLivingCharacter, but the problem is, at that point the character doesn't have moddata it seems, returns just an empty table. What are my options?

[rotund hazel]

if anyone's curious, the answer was yes! super convenient to just be able to add it to an existing variant group

[silent zealot]

If only the concept of inheritence existed for scripts other than vehicles!

[red tiger]

Agreed. I planned to add a tool that compiled inheritence models of items.

[silent zealot]

I wonder how much inheritence the TIS devs have, since a lot of scripts are now in a "generated" subfolder which makes me think they are no longer managing that mess by hand.

[bronze yoke]

the code that generates them is included in the game

[vast pier]

I wish there were a way to add items to recipes in real time instead of it being on world load

blocks out a lot of options involving conditional tags

[vast pier]

example being if I make a function that applies a tag to a weapon whenever you add a specific attachment, it wouldn't get picked up by recipes that use that tag

[silent zealot]

Recipies in general need better lua support

[silent zealot]

Where does the script generator live? I'm curious to have a look.

[bronze yoke]

in the generation package

[toxic burrow]

Hi y’all, hope you’re having a good day! Looking to make my very first mod for PZ, just a simple cosmetic change right now for the zeds. Is anyone able to help point me in the right direction? It’s for a B42 MP Server I’m working on! I can do the art and such, I just don’t know where to start looking for the files I need.

[silent zealot]

What sort of cosmetic change?

e.g.: skin texture, new outfits, etc.

[karmic turtle]

I'd believe it would be skin texture @toxic burrow

[silent zealot]

Good news, that is easy to do as a mod.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3035713034 (NSFW)

That's an example. It's just a few loose textures in \media\textures\Body

you can get the originals from the games media\textures\Body folder

[toxic burrow]

Oh, that’s awesome! Thank you both 🥰 I’ll get those made and the hopefully be back to turn it into a real mod!

[upbeat turtle]

[vast pier]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-walking-walking-back-virtual-insanity-walking-reversed-walking-reversed-gif-10372581163346915305

[ashen maple]

Does playerObj:getInventory():AddItem(fullType) transmit an inventory update to the client?

[bright fog]

No

I believe not

[ashen maple]

I think I found it sendAddItemToContainer()

[torn igloo]

Does TimedActions has anything like PostComplete(), a function that runs after Complete() for client-side?

[neat walrus]

for my timed action that needs to run something client side after finishing I send a server command

[slow rivet]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BzrtS6VaSGM8znGuwvklgQzRy9t-0ykAkI4oHA1mesw/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ow4cyhthbk3b Please correct these errors. They really interfere with mod development.

[next vine]

does some1 know where the lua for padlock is ?

[queen oasis]

lua/shared/TimedActions and there's 2 actions I know of, ISPadlockAction.lua and ISPadlockByCodeAction. I think the "locked" checks are in lua/client/ISUI/ISInventoryPage.lua

[frank elbow]

You should put this in #mod_portal & maybe format it as a regular message if possible

[bright fog]

The fishing thing, doesn't make any sense to check that the player is ... a player bruh

Also what Omar said above, requests and reports should be sent in #mod_portal

Not in a google doc like that that no one will use ...

"They really interfere with mod development" is also quite a huge statement regarding what those are about

[timber ledge]

random question, not seeing any currently, so I'm hearing that it's probably not possible with something involved and how it's programmed, but is anybody ever played around with a mod that lets you have different kinds of ammo for different weapons? hot loads that do more damage but increase degradation, armor piercers, wadcutters that pierce less ammo but do more damage, slugs for shotguns, heck, dragon's breath rounds?

looking at what little of the code I've looked at and thinking about it... I'm betting it's not possible because it's locked to the actual guns themselves?

[bronze yoke]

yes and yes

the vanilla ammo system doesn't support it at all but people have implemented it

i'm not sure of a currently released mod that does that (but i'm sure there are some), i know marz's unreleased one does it though

[timber ledge]

okay, cool, ill look again when i get a chance, want to look at the code to see what they had to mess with. Im thinking it might be a good path for an idea ive got for a magic system mod

[upbeat turtle]

moonwalking doggos fixed!

these animations dont have the translation_data bone

[sharp dirge]

is there a guide on how to add models to the game at all? i want to try and add my sona to the game but i have no idea how or where to start

[bright fog]

Wdym by "adding a model" ?

Bcs that can refer to many things

[sharp dirge]

like changing the player model

[bright fog]

No guide on that no

[upbeat turtle]

the easiest way to go about that is making it like a clothing item. for actual model replacements, zomboid api is very particular with what it likes

[sonic needle]

same as making clothing. you just name the model occording to male or female.

[sharp dirge]

so i essentially make a character model and tell the game its a shirt i can wear?

[sonic needle]

she is a model replacer for instance.

[upbeat turtle]

yee, to elaborate on what Ash is saying, if you use the zomboid skeleton and weighting its feasible to do legit model replacements. if everything is solid, renaming it "MaleBody" or "FemaleBody" will override the vanilla model

it also needs a texture file with the correct uvs

[sharp dirge]

oh i dont mean like changing the model into a model from a different game i meant like changing the model like those anthro mods and how they made their sonas

[bronze yoke]

those mostly just work as clothing, they just do some trickery to hide it from the ui

[upbeat turtle]

im not too sure how those exact mods go about it. but im assuming they use either the male/female body replacement, or just the clothing technique. id recommend looking at one of them to see how it works 🙂

clothing can be easily worked with using lua

[rotund hazel]

hey all, quick q - I want to "modpack" a selection of mods into a single one (and got permission from all modders involved) so that auto updates didn't happen - for use w/ dedicated server. Is there any more to this than combining all the client/server/shared folders and any config files?

or does that kinda vary mod-to-mod

[cinder storm]

really depends on what you'd like to do

i havent made any modpacks myself so have some salt with this but combining all of the folders could have some problems if you dont know what you're doing

if anything i would really stick with steam collections and such before modpacking

but if you have to, i dont see a problem with doing so

though some mods have model and texture folders

[frank elbow]

Instead of trying to merge the mods as described you can just put all the mod folders into a workshop item. Workshop items can contain multiple mods

[rotund hazel]

excellent, thank you so much!

would I need to remove their individual mod.info files or anything?

or can i literally just copy paste into one folder

[frank elbow]

You can just take the mod folder(s) from Contents/mods

If any of those modders requested that you change the mod id then you'll have to edit the mod.info

[rotund hazel]

okay, sounds good - thanks again!

[frank elbow]

To clarify though: to the game these will still be considered separate mods. If that's problematic then the advice differs

[rotund hazel]

i think thats fine? I just want to lock the mod versions

[frank elbow]

Okay cool, should work then

[vast pier]

I am fully recreating the meshes by hand with the sketchfab models as reference.
I have reduced it by a significant amount

doing it by hand also allows me to easily more change details about it

each of these bolts are rotated by a random number

[tranquil kindle]

I'd honestly do them on texture

[vast pier]

I could, and I may change it to that in the future, but I like this for now

[paper ibex]

Upgraded PZ Studio to support template-driven development and symlinks to reduce boilerplates.
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=escapepz.pzstudio

Keep it DRY! 😀

[vast pier]

I am doing my best to design it to be compatible with vanilla weapon heads
(The sizes will be adjusted to match their vanilla counterparts, still W.I.P)

[undone sedge]

is this a lightsaber

someone make compound v that has a super high chance to just kill you

i beg

[buoyant violet]

In another day of implementing shit that no one as Marz to do it but still fun.

Spread affected by moodles, the exhausted or tired you are the worse the automatic control of yout weapon will be the more you hold down.

the M60 was a great example cuz is meant to caused exhausting on use due to heaviness. so I can get my character tired for the showcase.

[undone sedge]

this looks so good

[vast pier]

No, if you click on the images you’ll see it’s handle models

[buoyant violet]

looks like a lightsaber to me

anakin dont try it

[vast pier]

🙄🙄🙄

What do you think about the method I’m going for?

[vast pier]

For reference, they are designed to have both long and short versions of every head.
(Some tool/weapon heads will be too heavy to reasonably use one handed though.)

It's all using the same models, with a locational transform to attach it in the right place when a long handle version

I still have not decided how I will be handling tool tags yet, but I would like for the head to retain all of its recipe uses as its vanilla counterpart would have

[near vessel]

We do a little shenanigans

[buoyant violet]

Its a meme sugar cakes

I do like it

I odnt think i have seen modular melees

Thats cool

[round nova]

Maybe do green space dependant on a skill

[near vessel]

Its currently dependent on the Locksmithing skill also introduced by the mod. Stress and Panic will also make the timing harder

[round nova]

Yes very good

[vast pier]

I don't think I have either, so I have a hunch I'm going to have to figure a lot of this out on my own

I think it's funny that this is what the Fbx file looks like when you import it

Head sizes will be adjusted to their vanilla counterparts after I have the basics set up.
Still all placeholder

This isn't all of the vanilla tool heads, it's just the ones that I think will go noticed if missing.
It currently does not include the rake heads, or scythes.

I will also be adding a shorter handle version for things like long blades and short blades.

And then another handle version specifically for stone tools and some spear heads.
They are meant to be lodged in the wood, and will need a different model to represent that

[vast pier]

I know that this part is going to be the hardest to figure out, but will be the least time consuming to implement once I have the first version made

[cinder storm]

@silent zealot hows WAWA? does the b42.15 patch still matter for it?

[vast pier]

starting on resizing

I don't think grip wraps will be mandatory, but I think I want to make them decrease fatigue

still haven't done textures

[cinder storm]

also, street smarts

[modest oak]

ok i need da ultimate answer to this

[modest oak]

WHAT angle is the pz camera angle at

[cinder storm]

its isometric

i would feel its at 90 degrees facing northwest

[modest oak]

thats the most incredible part

its not

its at some sort of skew

[cinder storm]

how

[modest oak]

i dont know

i just know it isnt 45 and 45

its some weird angle and i need to get to the bottom of this it is ruining my livelihood

I KNEW IT

GRAHHH

[cinder storm]

you poor modeller

[modest oak]

i dont actually even need the camera angle i just want to see how these fuckers animations look at the correct perspective

[cinder storm]

remember

being too curious causes an exception

[modest oak]

what if you... wanted to play new pz unstable update with mods... but indie stone said..

[cinder storm]

42.15 fucked the translations

any mods before march 9th should be taken with some salt

[modest oak]

yeah ive heard about that

im only on the modelling side of mod making but i can imagine that constantly changing item names and whatnot will fuck over some of the coder side of things

[cinder storm]

42.13 fucked the scripts too

type got replaced by itemtype

[modest oak]

vile

[modest oak]

actually vile

[cinder storm]

or its the other way around

i dont really care i find it out when i have to update my mods

point being its unstable for a reason

and anyone complaining about their saves not working after an update

shouldve expected it

[modest oak]

truthnuke

yeah im never too saddened by a save no longer working

i was usually just doing some bullshit in there anyways

and if i was playing long term, id just move to 41 and wait for 42 to be fully finished

[bright fog]

Not really

[cinder storm]

i never finish long term saves but on a 42.7-8 save i had heavy progress with bandits

[cinder storm]

then i died to one sucker who ran over my fence

never again did i touch that save

never again will i base in a small house west of west point

[modest oak]

well i think the first mistake was basing in westpoint

[cinder storm]

west point has easier access to the perfect center of the map

makes travel times easy

dont you guys love when you leave zomboid inactive for 2 minutes and it just crashes with no exception

[modest oak]

java moment

had to interact with java for the first time ever to recompile a minecraft mod and it literally took me like 10 minutes because everyf ucckin version wasnt compatible for some reason

i will always respect people who can code and shit because just typing in commands into command prompt was making my brain hurt

[cinder storm]

the closest thing to java i ever used was c# and i did not make it past tables

[modest oak]

wizardry

[upbeat turtle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hacker-pc

[bright fog]

You just have to put time fucking over with things to learn how things work

[modest oak]

i love doing that in modelling and shaderwork but when it comes to coding its the bane of my existance

[bright fog]

That's fair, to each their own

[cinder storm]

game autopauses upon inactivity now

[ashen maple]

If I omit description= from my workshop.txt, will it stop being overwritten whatever I update?

[bright fog]

No

[ashen maple]

damn lol

[bright fog]

Idk if it will break uploading

But there's no known way to stop the way to stop overriding the description

[ashen maple]

So just keep a copy to update it after. Could be worse

[bright fog]

My suggestion is to use Steam Uploader, tho the new version forces the description to a specific file, so you still need to update that file but it's easier than this shitty description parameter in the workshop.txt file

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Steam_Uploader

The C++ version of the tool allows you to update anything you want

I asked the question on the steamworks Rust binding which I used to make the new version of the tool why they force the description to be updated too when uploading. I might look into later to modify that binding myself to not force it so you can upload whatever you want

[ashen maple]

"description": "./description.bbcode",

Yeah thats so much better. Sick dude I had no idea this was a thing. Thank you sir.

[bright fog]

That will link to a file in your project which holds your current description

[ashen maple]

Wayyy better than dealing with description= and by the extension Im guessing I can use bbcode. But yeah, ideally not having to provide a description would be amazing.

[bright fog]

You can technically use any extension, as long as it's a text file. I suggest using the bbcode extension to add a bbcode language to vscode

Should be linked in the app README

[ashen maple]

Was exactly my plan.

[bright fog]

That version of the tool allows you to chose what to upload:
https://github.com/SirDoggyJvla/Steam-Uploader

The Rust rework is a bit new and completely fresh, I changed how the whole process works

Might miss some elements too

I mean it does miss some elements tbh

[ashen maple]

now I have no idea which version I should use

rust version? The manifest file seems easy to maintain

[bright fog]

Yea

The full CLI one is a bit annoying to use

But more flexible. I definitely plan to add the ability to update specific elements like the previous version

[ashen maple]

Yeah then Im making 15 bat files to do stuff

[bright fog]

I also plan on creating a manager for the app, so you can manage your mods

[bright fog]

Basically

[ashen maple]

Soo sick. This is already a huge uplift.

[bright fog]

Yeaaaa the in-game uploader is really not that great 🥲

[dull moss]

I mean it uploads the mods, what else its supposed to do? xdd

[bright fog]

If it even fucking worked in the first place 💀

[dull moss]

works on my machine

[bright fog]

Some people have been reporting constant issues with the uploader, even Slayer himself has issues with it

Mac users seem to be the most affected

The uploader doesn't allow you to upload GIF

[dull moss]

To be fair it's on them for using Mac

[bright fog]

And before a few updates ago it limited you to specific mod preview resolutions

While technically there isn't a single limitation on resolution, only on the file size

[bright fog]

Agreed but still

Mac is pretty good for students

So it's fair that some of them use it

[dull moss]

why is it good for students?

[bright fog]

Accessible working laptops

That last a while, have good batteries

[dull moss]

accessible?

[bright fog]

Yea

[dull moss]

Isnt average joe lenovo laptop that works well much cheaper

[bright fog]

You cannot deny their laptop are performant

[bright fog]

Gl with the battery

[dull moss]

ye but then again do you really need top-shelf performance if you;re a student

[bright fog]

Depends what you do

[dull moss]

windows and/or linux masterrace

regardless its offtopic at this point imma go break write my mod

[ashen maple]

Yeah we deploy Lenovo laptops to our users, they're definitely not holding up like a mac book.

[buoyant violet]

oh boy if I tell you

but yes the system is done

here is an example of a way to load a magazine

[dull moss]

funny how in most of the shooters more pen = better ammo and here in zomboid we'll be going from other end, most flesh dmg = best round xddd

subsonic is also a banger

less detection

[buoyant violet]

I have done it so each ammo type has any flexibility for stat changes

example subsonics deal less damage, are quiet but require manual racking

[dull moss]

I mean it better have that, otherwise whats the point of different ammo xd

[upbeat turtle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/me-atrapaste-es-cine--k01KQ3ADMYG93X6CMPZ6YTYYKAN

[buoyant violet]

yeah im playing with the system thats I have at hand

[upbeat turtle]

hell yea

[buoyant violet]

I dont want to reinvet the wheel either, but I do want an incentive

I brought back the 223 for 556x45 rifles just to make it a civilian round that is more abundant but does less damage

also makes your rifle lose condition less faster

new vegas coded

ahaha

[ashen maple]

Ive never seen subsonic portrayed so accurately.

[buoyant violet]

let me record something

you have freedom on how to load the magazine (or weapon)

look at the second shoot how its racking after, thats due to the subsonic

im applying custom stats as teh loaded bullet is detected

so its pretty fun dynamic system, within zomboid limits

(also pretty stupid detail but I made it so the "more loaded" ammunitions fly futher away when hot brass is detected )

thats why the first one was jeeted out of the screen haha

[ashen maple]

Sickkkkk.

Make it so if you have a silencer the chance to cycle with subsonic is like 85%

[buoyant violet]

for my own sanity its always gonna be cycle manually heh

[ashen maple]

fair XD

[vast pier]

can you modify requiresEquippedBothHands through lua for individual items, or does it only work for changing script params?

[knotty stone]

cant you look up how katana handles it? its 1 and 2 handed right?

[bright fog]

Yea

[vast pier]

No that's just how most 2handed weapons work by default.
requiresEquippedBothHands is specifically for sledghammers and railroad spike removers

[vast pier]

item:requiresEquippedBothHands(true) doesn't seem to work

am I doing it wrong

[bright fog]

Idk what you expected with that because that's just incorrect API wise

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/scripting/objects/Item.html#DoParam(java.lang.String,java.lang.String)

You need to use DoParam

[knotty stone]

?

[vast pier]

doesn't that affect every item of that type though

I want it to be individual items

[bright fog]

Yea

[vast pier]

I want to affect an instanced item

not every item of the same type

[vast pier]

is... is this an ai overview of code I am telling you doesn't work the way you're saying it does

[bright fog]

requiresEquippedBothHands is literally unused

I mean it's not unused, but it does nothing

        if (this.isTwoHandWeapon() && !this.isRequiresEquippedBothHands()) {
            item = layout.addItem();
            item.setLabel(Translator.getText("Tooltip_item_TwoHandWeapon"), 1.0F, 1.0F, 0.8F, 1.0F);
        }

[vast pier]

so is there no way to set it on an individual item

[bright fog]

That's the only place where that is ever used

So requiresEquippedBothHands basically does nothing and only touches on the label for some reasons

What's your goal here ?

[vast pier]

Scan a melee weapon for certain conditions and change that param on it if it passes

I am working on modular melee weapons

[bright fog]

Bcs the solution is usually to dynamically modify the item script based on the what weapon you hold

[vast pier]

won't that affect everyone though

[bright fog]

It's weird

@buoyant violet might know more on that

[vast pier]

I need to make it so if the weapon has the sledgehammer head, it requires both hands

Otherwise you can one hand a sledge

Which is not ideal

I have a work around in mind if I can't do that though

Additional placeholder melee with that condition specifically

[buoyant violet]

whats the catch?

making a weapon single hand or double hand via script?

[vast pier]

not specifically no

So the sledgehammer has the param
RequiresEquippedBothHands = true,
which removes the option to equip in primary/secondary and forces two handing

[buoyant violet]

ok

[vast pier]

If it's not possible to apply this param to an instanced item, then I will just go with the workaroudn idea

[buoyant violet]

idk what you are trying to do

thats what im asking

[upbeat turtle]

tbh, i did something similar to this with my dualwielding mod

it's kinda hacky though xd

[vast pier]

I am trying to toggle
RequiresEquippedBothHands
on an individual item.
But there's no setter for it, so the closest possible would be a DoParam on the entire script item, but I don't want it to affect every single item of the same type.
Just the one being held.

[upbeat turtle]

i have it run code where it overrides the contextmenu options based on item IDs. say for example "equip in both hands" is replaced with "Equip In Primary"

this works on instanced items

[bright fog]

I mean

That's Lua

[buoyant violet]

so that was my question, do be able to change if its two hands or not

[bright fog]

You can override the isRequiresEquippedBothHands of the Lua side

To output whatever you want based on data you stored in the InventoryItem instance

[vast pier]

how ?

[bright fog]

I have to find back how you can override Java methods called Lua side, but also do know this will not override any Java call. That's only a problem for the tooltip here, which is why you can use that

[buoyant violet]

you could alter the script for the operation and revert after you are done too

[bright fog]

This also means that any mod which might rely on this same function will get the proper result

[bright fog]

That might not be necessary here

[buoyant violet]

I havent given much thought but, let me think cuz its true there is no setter but that should not stop it from making it possible

[bright fog]

@bronze yoke do you have a small example of hooking to a Java method Lua sided

[bright fog]

Considering the only important calls of isRequiresEquippedBothHands are fully Lua sided, you can simply hook to that

[buoyant violet]

im curious to see albion example

[bright fog]

I know that's a thing and in this case this sounds perfect until TIS starts using that method more Java side, which then you'll be fucked

albion most definitely knows how to do that, I remember Burryaga showcasing that as an example, tho gl finding that shit back, last time I saw that was almost over a year ago lmao

But that's something you can do, rarely useful but in rare cases like that

[bronze yoke]

local index = __classmetatables[ClassName.class].__index

local old_method = index.method
function index:method(...)
    old_method(self, ...)
end

[knotty stone]

if you attach the sledge head, make it a different script item without the parameter?

[bright fog]

Right that

[bright fog]

Thank you

[buoyant violet]

oh shit true, chuck did some java patching in a mod

[bright fog]

I'll add that to the wiki page of Lua API

[vast pier]

Unrelated, but does setSwingAnim() just not work?

[buoyant violet]

thats just the animation

[vast pier]

yes I know

I meant it fires an exception when I try to use it

[buoyant violet]

some changes were done to animations, check that is not enumerated now

[bronze yoke]

what exception is thrown

[bright fog]

Bcs that's not how you use it

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/scripting/objects/Item.html#setSwingAnim(java.lang.String)

You really need to get using the JavaDocs

[vast pier]

is it not just setSwingAnim("Heavy")

[vast pier]

I do use them

[buoyant violet]

its pretty straight forward, just pass the string of the swing animation. I dont think attack animations are enumerated like reloads

[bright fog]

Ok but the example you gave above wasn't that 😅

[vast pier]

local a = p:getPrimaryHandItem()
a:setSwingAnim("Bat")```
this looks like it should work, but doesn't

[bright fog]

Bcs it runs on Item

Not InventoryItem

setSwingAnim is literally not a thing of InventoryItem

It doesn't do what you think it does

[vast pier]

I expected more of my issues to be revolving around desync and improper item stat registration, not a lack of InventoryItem setters

[buoyant violet]

You will learn to find workarounds

[vast pier]

No coding progress yet, but the head pieces are (mostly) vanilla sized now

[quaint wyvern]

is there a way to kill a zombie without the death sound effect playing? I'm trying to reanimate a corpse and then kill it within a few ticks silently

[main pasture]

MaybesetDoDeathSound(false) before killing it. Worked for players at least

[shrewd tide]

Here's a question, i am new to mod making in PZ, but anyway, i need to rotate the gun on 180 degrees or?

Or like that?

[quaint wyvern]

ahh, yeah, that worked. not sure how I missed that

[tranquil kindle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3060255898

Guide that gives you insight on gun modding

[shrewd tide]

Alright

Time to code it

[fleet bridge]

You can't change swinganim

Needs to be done in the item script iirc

Unless they changed it in b42

[paper ibex]

oh yeah, i use my ingame ui debug (like imgui ui tab) for quick overhauls while waiting for the XUI Debugger from TIS..

[buoyant violet]

Like a scope but need to enter a close quarter area? just move it do the side dont remove it

[tame veldt]

Here’s a simple client-side way to hide recipes in B42. Make sure to replace EXAMPLEMOD with something else: ```lua
require "Entity/ISUI/CraftRecipe/ISHandCraftPanel"

local hiddenRecipes = {
["craftRecipeNameHere"] = true,
["CraftTwine"] = true,
}

local function hideRecipe(recipe)
local name = recipe and recipe:getName()
return hiddenRecipes[name] == true
end

local function filterRecipes(recipeList)
local filteredList = ArrayList.new()

for i = 0, recipeList:size() - 1 do
    local recipe = recipeList:get(i)
    if not hideRecipe(recipe) then
        filteredList:add(recipe)
    end
end

return filteredList

end

if ISHandCraftPanel and not ISHandCraftPanel.EXAMPLEMOD then
ISHandCraftPanel.EXAMPLEMOD = true

local oldRefreshRecipeList = ISHandCraftPanel.refreshRecipeList

function ISHandCraftPanel:refreshRecipeList(forceRefresh)
    oldRefreshRecipeList(self, forceRefresh)

    local recipeList = self.logic and self.logic:getRecipeList()
    if recipeList and recipeList.getAllRecipes then
        self.logic:setRecipes(filterRecipes(recipeList:getAllRecipes()))
    end
end

end```

[bright fog]

That's cool, tho considering what the solution does, I'd appreciate if you made that a framework

Because people spamming that patch and stacking hooks might make things not good performance wise in the future

I'll still add that to the wiki as this shouldn't be too much of a problem in the near future

Also aren't there some recipes that will appear in the context menu ?

Or I guess they still haven't readded anything like that

[tame veldt]

I considered it, but was unsure if I should.

[tame veldt]

That I don't really know, could look into it

[bright fog]

Definitely do so

Also I'll tweak the code a bit to remove unecessary elements

[tame veldt]

awesome, thank you!

[bright fog]

local hiddenRecipes = {
    ["craftRecipeNameHere"] = true,
    ["CraftTwine"] = true,
}

local function hideRecipe(recipe)
    local name = recipe and recipe:getName()
    return hiddenRecipes[name] == true
end

local function filterRecipes(recipeList)
    local filteredList = ArrayList.new()

    for i = 0, recipeList:size() - 1 do
        local recipe = recipeList:get(i)
        if not hideRecipe(recipe) then
            filteredList:add(recipe)
        end
    end

    return filteredList
end

local oldRefreshRecipeList = ISHandCraftPanel.refreshRecipeList

function ISHandCraftPanel:refreshRecipeList(forceRefresh)
    oldRefreshRecipeList(self, forceRefresh)

    local recipeList = self.logic and self.logic:getRecipeList()
    if recipeList and recipeList.getAllRecipes then
        self.logic:setRecipes(filterRecipes(recipeList:getAllRecipes()))
    end
end

Marking the UI as already patched by your mod is useless

Because that Lua script will only be ran a single time

If it's ran multiple times, that's on you and how you implement that hook

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/CraftRecipe#Hiding_recipes

[buoyant violet]

Sharing here too cuz I feel a lil proud of all this system in he framework

[jolly thorn]

what ways do we have to persistently track characters?

[bright fog]

Wdym ?

[jolly thorn]

well, some kind of id for player characters, or players at least

right now the best I could manage is to assign something to character's moddata myself, but it's too wonky. With OnCreateLivingCharacter setting moddata doesn't really work and I had to resort to iterating over the list of online players on tick to set it there. And then there's the need to sync it to the player as well. None of this seems sane to me

[bright fog]

I don't get it, track what ? You can already access players at any time, so what's more you need ? Why do you add a mod data variable on tick or when the character appears ?

[jolly thorn]

track player characters across sessions. I need it to tie data to them on the server

[silent zealot]

I'm pretty sure one of the getName/getID functions for a character returns the steam username, is that the sort of thing you're after?

Otherwise... what do you mean by "sessions" - you mean someone logging in to a server with a character, logging out and logging back in to use that same character?

I need it to tie data to them on the server
Maybe expanding on this a bit will make it easier to suggest ways to do it.

[jolly thorn]

yeah, I thought about using names or steam id, but the former can be changed and the latter is only available for steam servers. I'm not sure how to expand on it, it's pretty simple: I have some data I want to tie to a character. So that the character has that data. And I can use it later. Across sessions means between server restarts in this case, so persistent

[silent zealot]

That sounds like a use case for moddata on the character

What issues are you hitting with that?

[jolly thorn]

Seems like a waste, too much data to store it on the character, plus it seems to sync automatically, so I'm storing it in global moddata instead (on the server), for now. Should probably just be writing it to a file. There's no issue, I'm simply looking for a way to persistently identify the character. Right now I'm just storing an id in the character's moddata, but can't really find a good entry point. As I wrote, the OnCreateLivingCharacter event seems to be too early, as moddata there doesn't really work, at least I wasn't able to make it persist

hence me just filtering new character on tick to assign it there

which seems like a waste also

[silent zealot]

Does OnCreatePlayer work better?

[jolly thorn]

it's not available in server context sadly, so no, it doesn't work at all

[silent zealot]

Might be a client side event though

[jolly thorn]

yeah

[silent zealot]

Have the client send a message to the server?

...looks like all the useful events are client side.

[jolly thorn]

nah, what would that accomplish? With the amount of time it would take to send the messages back an forth, on tick way doesn't seem like a waste anymore

though I do send the id to the client

I can't believe there are no persistent ids for characters. They are serialized, right, they are tied to the players internally somehow

hell, even the players themselves, not seeing any ways to track them besides usernames or steam ids

[silent zealot]

Why is time so criticial? And the reason to avoid onTick unless it's essential is so you are not putting needless load on the server running by making a bunch of API calls ~60 times a second to do nothing 99.998% of the time

[jolly thorn]

sure that's true, but I'm yet to find a better entry point, so. Time is not critical, but juggling race conditions and deferring everything doesn't seem like a good design to me

I don't wan't to use onTick, but I'd rather take a minor performance hit than complicate things for no reason

[silent zealot]

What about EveryTenMinutes or Every hour?

[modest oak]

when it comes to custom models, does the skeleton itself need a root bone or does it need a root bone + an empty?

[still umbra]

@all Hi. Iam did some Animation in Blender but im struggling to get them into the game. Do i have to convert the output File (.glb)? I just renamed them the *.X 🙂

[still umbra]

i used this as a guideline: https://github.com/Paddlefruit/ProjectZomboid_CommunityRig/blob/main/README.md

The Scipt gave me .glb files

[bronze yoke]

just use the .glb files, don't rename them to .x or they will not work

[still umbra]

@bronze yoke Thanks.

Can i just replace a .x file with a .glb to test it? or is it better to create a new mod to test animations ingame?

[bronze yoke]

that should work if you also delete the .x

[strong quest]

One question! Do you know if the game files include the pose for the player character holding a two-handed weapon? I'm developing a joke mod and wanted to start an animation from that model.

[bronze yoke]

of course, everything in the game is in its files

[mellow frigate]

yes.
you can view all animations ingame from the Animation Viewer available in Debug mode.

[bronze yoke]

editing animations is rough but if you just need the pose as a starting point that will be fine, you can use zomboid asset converter to convert the animations into something editable

[strong quest]

I used it a couple of times to see if I could use one of those animations, but I couldn't find one. I wanted the model to start from and create an animation.

[main pasture]

Very nice work! btw you have your EOTech mounted backwards

[bright fog]

@vivid imp never realized you named your rig "Community Rig", do you want me to rename that on the Wiki ?

[vivid imp]

Ill leave it up to you, Im fine with it either way

[buoyant violet]

lol thank you I miss that when mass producing the scopes hahaha

here is the scopes and booster combo on a asval

[dreamy quail]

guys mod support is kinda not used so can anybody tell me if the several loops are actually used or if the normal full music is the only part used without the loops

[bright fog]

@tame veldt https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Dane's_Library

[still umbra]

I added a walk Cycle to the game but the charakter moves very slowly and it shows that the animation walk_slow is active. Do i have to animate the Translation_Data in blender? Or do i have to change the speed in the .xml? Thanks for the help in advance 🙏 https://youtu.be/nYbGwhysaho

[bronze yoke]

the translation_data is what moves the character most of the time

[still umbra]

Thanks. I'll try that 👍

[buoyant violet]

Now you gun is more versatile than before

[silent zealot]

That's like trying to run away in a nightmare.

[vital moat]

Will this mod have a setting to make the weapons that spawn lore friendly? IE: guns that were made in 93 only spawn

I do love when that’s an option

[upbeat harness]

what mod?

[buoyant violet]

My own (unreleased/wip)

[upbeat harness]

we'll wait

[stark lion]

bro fix attachment editor bruh

[hollow schooner]

hallo
i have a question about distribution lists
is there any way to make some items always spawn in a container (but only one of each)?

[bright fog]

Nor directly with the distribution lists

[silent zealot]

As in, a specific container in a specific location in the world? And using an existing container, not a custom map with a new container category added just for this purpose?

[tame palm]

Can only pre generated basements be used now? Is there any other way for players to manually generate through special actions or commands while online? And allow access to the basement without restarting the server.

PZ doesn't seem to have the concept of mining caves.

[wanton arrow]

I mean, basements are pretty new to the game, since they only arrived with b42, not counting the mod that was available before.

Maybe at some point in the future we will be able to dig our own basements. We'll see.

[mellow frigate]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3392001801

[shy mantle]

I want to add, they've done something with underground areas in the latest update. It seems basements now have more walkable space if you destroy the walls and walk around in the void. Placing objects above basement void areas also makes dirt pillars show, so they might actually be working on adding something like this? Why else show the dirt wall pillars if you're not supposed to go beyond said basement walls.

[silent zealot]

Basements are part of maps, so maybe a map addon can add new basements.

Each maps's basements.lua gets loaded (e.g.:)\media\maps\Muldraugh, KY\basements.lua

So if you can figure out how to make the map things with names like this:

You can load in new ones. Probably.

local api = Basements.getAPIv1()
api:addAccessDefinitions('Muldraugh, KY', procedural_basement_access)
api:addBasementDefinitions('Muldraugh, KY', procedural_basements)
api:addSpawnLocations('Muldraugh, KY', procedural_basement_spawn_locations)

I assume during the map making process you can define pre-made, "always putt this basement here" basements as well since a lot of those are commented out in basements.lua but obvioulsy they do load somehow, so I assume that is from being part of the world map.

[paper ibex]

i am tired of reloadLua by hands with F11

[rotund hazel]

hi, where can I find the game's code related to dynamic item names, like photographs/book titles? I'd like to add a specific photo variant to a vehicle loot table and wondering if that's possible

I saw that there are some onCreate<itemtype> functions - maybe I could detect whether the item is getting created in a specific container, and set its name there somehow? I also wondered how that would interact with the localization json stuff, if at all

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Creating_a_flier_mod

Idk for photos, but fliers see this

Tho that guide is outdated

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Community_Modding_Projects

[mortal trail]

does anyone know where the clothes fbx was moved to? I cant find it

[polar trail]

Has anyone figured out if theres a way to tweak values for undiscovered animals dying?

Or messed with animals in general

[bright fog]

@orchid notch hey this you right ?
https://github.com/PZ-Wiki-Modding/ZedScripts/issues/18

[orchid notch]

Yup that's me

Interesting! I see you had gotten back to me. I was doing some yard work today

I'll have to take a look when I can here in an hour or so

[bright fog]

I'd be interested to see if you get the problem

[orchid notch]

Sure thing

[silent zealot]

You can't add a specific variant to a loot table, because the loot table will have a base item like Base.Photo and that item's OnCreate function is what sets up the variation (change name, maybe change the texture)

Easiest option would be to add a new item that is the specific photo you want, then put that in the loot tables.

[valid belfry]

Figured I would share some of the action combat I'm working on. Animations WIP, ignore the SG-1 audio at the start lol

[vast pier]

Do you make your own animations ?

[buoyant violet]

the wizard Spooks

[buoyant violet]

of course

[vast pier]

Something I've been interested in is the implementation of HEMA animations as you level your skills, so knowing you can do this sort of thing with the combat is neat

[buoyant violet]

Spooky is one of the animation wizards in the community

[silent zealot]

Zomboid ARPG?

Puts on Godly Ballistic Vest of the Whale and grabs his King's Crowbar of Haste

Also, that is immesly cool and I have a lot of respect for people that manage to do anything with the Zomboid animation system without going insane.

[tame veldt]

preview of WIP sandbox options with customizable section headers, same row toggles, and disabled states

[blissful seal]

my mod adds ARPG-style items, you can literally get that kind of crowbar 😂

https://discord.com/channels/136501320340209664/1492863244954505257

[blissful seal]

goddamn this is so badass dude

[blissful seal]

bro you're cookinggg that hot reload isamazing

[paper ibex]

that gif is not about intro lua HMR 😅 just a show case for UI inspector, the game engine supports update some lua data on the fly.

[mellow frigate]

Is this fully automatic or must it be tuned for each UI ?

[paper ibex]

it read UIManager to get all the windows UI to inspect, changing values, dump the ui trees and it details value to txt file,
you can understand what you can see, like UI tree when launch pz with -imgui flag but with more advanced and handy features

simple:

• resize the window
• oh hey this window's size is good looking for me, what is the window size that i can apply in my code?
• dump the window details
• oh nice, this is the window size i want, no need guessing and reloads the game just for simple good looking window size!

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-css-open-window-annoyed-pissed-gif-12014506

[buoyant violet]

man attachments its time consuming but fun lol

[crimson harbor]

Hi guys, new to modding. I am attempting to use AI to help me build a very basic mod but it is running me in circles. Where exactly do I put my local mod in File Explorer? Is it in Users\xxxx\Zomboid\mods, or in Workshop? This is what it tells me and I can nver get it to allow me to enable it, always a Red X

[bright fog]

• About AI: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Getting_started_with_modding#Warning_on_AI_usage
• The answer to your question: https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[crimson harbor]

Thank you very much!

[valid belfry]

Ye it's certainly doable. Right now I just use a toggled stance, but unlocking with skill advancement makes a lot of sense. Eventually I'll cook up some sandbox options so people can just decide for themselves how they want the ARPG abilities to be accessed.

Sticking with Zomboid's default combat would involve less work animation side and is still a really satisfying system imo. Directional sequenced attacks are also viable, as you can see in this clip that uses vanilla anims.

You can see that neutral is a regular swing, fwd is pommel -> uppercut, l/r is alternating side attacks, and bwd is overhead/thrust.

[umbral pelican]

just finally fixing my mod and I thought I'd add a feature to make the character less bored if the item was detected on the ground, I've managed that but cannot figure out why the stats are not applying (build 42 debug latest)
this is the code i'm using

local bd = player:getBodyDamage()
local stats = player:getStats()
bd:setUnhappiness(bd:getUnhappiness() - 40)
bd:setBoredom(bd:getBoredom() - 60)
stats:setStress(stats:getStress() - 32)

[bright fog]

Those stats are not set this way anymore

In fact, if you try running these, they should throw an error if I'm not mistaken

[umbral pelican]

no error actually 😄

it would be nice if it did

how do I now set them please?

[bright fog]

Sorry but there's not setBoredom function in the BodyDamage class anymore, so your code must error OR it never reaches that code

If I remember right you use those enums:
https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/characters/CharacterStat.html

[umbral pelican]

thank you

[bright fog]

I just need to find the function to set those

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/characters/Stats.html#set(zombie.characters.CharacterStat,float)

player:getStats():set(CharacterStat.PAIN, val)

Should be something like that

For MP you need to do that server side and trigger a sync

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/Lua/LuaManager.GlobalObject.html#sendPlayerStat(zombie.characters.IsoPlayer,zombie.characters.CharacterStat)

That one I think

[umbral pelican]

okay, will account for that

thank you

look about right now?
I've removed the unnecessary variables and just used the exact functions
player:getStats():set(CharacterStat.UNHAPPINESS, -40
player:getStats():set(CharacterStat.BOREDOM, -60)
player:getStats():set(CharacterStat.STRESS, -32)

[bright fog]

Missing parenthesis

What are you programming with ?

[umbral pelican]

notepad XD

[bright fog]

yikes

[umbral pelican]

this was originally just a quick edit mod

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Visual_Studio_Code

[umbral pelican]

I decided to add this feature

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Umbrella_(modding)

[umbral pelican]

yeah I know about VSC, I'm an I.T admin for a living XD

[bright fog]

bruh 💀

[umbral pelican]

either way spotted the missing bracket thanks

[blissful seal]

lmao notepad supremacy

[bright fog]

Also I suggest caching getStats

Get used to doing it

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_optimization#Caching

[blissful seal]

what is ur mod noobsmith?

[umbral pelican]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3551703162

[blissful seal]

i love it

[umbral pelican]

no one else had done it and the original mod author allowed me to re-use their asset

[bright fog]

Technically a reuse of their assets wasn't necessary

[blissful seal]

10/10

[umbral pelican]

the mod uses their art and model 😄

I simply scaled it up and allowed it to be a placeable object with no clothing feature

[bright fog]

Yea but it could have been an addon mod, or at least for the B41 version. You can access other mods assets by requiring the use of that other mod too

It's fine since you got the authorization anyway, but just so you know

[blissful seal]

ah technical correctness, it never lands well

[umbral pelican]

what's funnier was that he saw me asking questions here initially and #mod_development message

[blissful seal]

lmao he got yo ass

[bright fog]

Yea Nik is an active modder

[umbral pelican]

just tested the mod, my boredom level is sat somewhat flat which is nice, now I just need to balance it. Cheers Sim

[blissful seal]

im in disbelief im not in any server with a miku emoji...

[bright fog]

I have one

Not a server tho lol

[umbral pelican]

is that a Frieren Miku

[blissful seal]

im washed dude

[bright fog]

Just a random ass miku emote

[bright fog]

I don't think so lol ?

[blissful seal]

frieku

[bright fog]

Aaaah

[blissful seal]

idk it might be

lmfao

[bright fog]

I haven't watched the season 2 yet

So maybe idk

[umbral pelican]

ah, fair. I own all the manga thus far

[bright fog]

It's on my list of mangas to read but because I've already watched the anime it's on my low priority list

[umbral pelican]

feels off topic now that I have fixed my bug, but here

[blissful seal]

i cu with the .hack

[bright fog]

Noice

[umbral pelican]

first manga i ever read, then first I ever owned.

[blissful seal]

thats a good one

[bright fog]

I don't read the big series like those, I prefer some smaller ones

[umbral pelican]

ha, nice try spammer

[bright fog]

The auto mod does its job well at least

[umbral pelican]

but yeah I own the "all you need is kill" manga for it's unique story

that being that it inspired the film "edge of tomorrow"

[bright fog]

I don't know what that is

[umbral pelican]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_You_Need_Is_Kill

[bright fog]

Looks interesting

[blissful seal]

whaaaat this is the basis for the edge of tomorrow?

thats wild lmfao

[umbral pelican]

yep

[bright fog]

Reminds me of Nihei's work

the cover at least I guess

[blissful seal]

oh and theres a movie rendition of the original manga now too

[umbral pelican]

yeah just saw that

[blissful seal]

how many thumbs out of five

[umbral pelican]

yeah i see that

manga 4/5

[bright fog]

Looks good, I'll add it to my list of mangas to read

[umbral pelican]

have either of you seen any of FUNA's works? (she make's female characters with cheat abilities in other worlds)

[bright fog]

Nah

[umbral pelican]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_80,000_Gold_in_Another_World_for_My_Retirement

[blissful seal]

ah light novel isekai gotta love it

[umbral pelican]

the manga is great and the anime is somewhat faithful

[blissful seal]

i wish i could save 80,000 gold in another world for my retirement

[umbral pelican]

mod idea?

[blissful seal]

sick mod idea

Zomboid Art Online

[bronze yoke]

SAO is one of my favourites, even though i honestly think it sucks 😅

[blissful seal]

i definitely unironically enjoyed SAO the first time i saw it

[bronze yoke]

for sure, but i was like thirteen when i first saw it so i don't really give my opinions from back then much credit

[blissful seal]

the taste changes, but I'll keep a soft spot for it 😂

i certainly wasn't ready for the onslaught of additional SAO's and now, every other anime being an isekai

[umbral pelican]

I like the premise, enjoyed it when I was younger, much prefer the abridged version by something witty nowadays

[bronze yoke]

i find it weird with how popular isekai is these days that not much has really gone for the same angle as sao

most of the isekai i see around game worlds seems to forget that it is set in a game most of the time

[umbral pelican]

well except maybe Log Horizon

that was a great anime that fell flat

[blissful seal]

its like the cheapest vehicle to go do some fantasy shit without real world building i guess

[umbral pelican]

nah that is truck kun

[blissful seal]

even with a game u have to like make lore and rules and stuff

the last good one with a game world that was actually realized was shangri-la frontier

but the stupid character design for the mc kills me 😂

[upbeat turtle]

zomboid cryo mod?

[blissful seal]

LFG

[upbeat turtle]

ngl a cryo mod would be hella interesting.. wake up 1000 days later and see the world reclaimed by nature

[blissful seal]

the question is how far do you take it fr lol

1000 years? Muldraugh is all chromed out

[upbeat turtle]

entire texture-changes based on the passage of time 😆

[upbeat turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/future-spongebob-squidward-gif-5073180

[blissful seal]

exactly squidward.

just like that episode of spongebob

everything shiny

[upbeat turtle]

even the zombies are chromed out 😆

[blissful seal]

https://tenor.com/view/statue-dancing-statue-sculpture-figure-silver-gif-12149940

i love this chrome future

[umbral pelican]

now you need to replace the zombie jump scare sounds with "FOR IMMORTUM JOE"

[rich loom]

you're the sauced carts dev right?

[blissful seal]

the very same

[rich loom]

marrok says he didn't get what you sent

I can send you the invite to his discord if you'd like

[blissful seal]

oh for sure yeah that would be sick thank you

[rich loom]

for the Go93 incompatibility

sure

[upbeat turtle]

“witness me!!” 😆

[umbral pelican]

did the https://pzwiki.net/wiki/EveryTenMinutes break? was using ontick on original code but was too overpowered, but now code is not even running now.

thanks for the assist on everything guys off to bed I am

[buoyant violet]

we continue with more attachment points shenanigans

[buoyant violet]

little lever video to close the night

[frank lintel]

anyone familiar with pz's startup params/args? trying to make head or tails of some of the -D options like -Ddebug which kinda makes no sense java wise...?

cuz well both -Ddebug and -Dsoftreset don't comply with usage for -D<system.property>=<value>

[polar plover]

Hello!
I need some help. Does anyone know how to properly sync the custom names in MULTIPLAYER? this thing is giving me headaches!

item:setName(item:getName() .. " (" .. getText("IGUI_CustomName") .. ")")
item:setCustomName(true)
item:syncItemFields()

I'm doing this but the item name always set to "Item (IGUI_CustomName)", as for the SP in the other hand it is created perfectly fine "Item (Custom Name)"

Code is running in shared folder btw

[pastel wolf]

Haven't worked on zomboid mods for a little bit, but im getting back into it, going to work on police pack 2

Though some other careers might be fun to do after all the police stuff, professional driver might be fun, and improved baseball uniforms might be fun

[main pasture]

Localization can be only done on the client, not on the server (it just returns the key). And zomboid doesn't seem to support localization with a key embedded in a custom name. You can set a custom name on the client and sync it to others, but it won't be localized to their language

[buoyant violet]

he is back

[pastel wolf]

https://klipy.com/gifs/flexing-arnold--k01KQENRPAQE020FFY61W1VQ3JT

[dull moss]

This is hilarious, the moment I open this chat I get this song queued on Spotify and I see your gif
https://open.spotify.com/track/4Yjbqe9nolqxyr6F90OnBu?si=e_o-R4PiTz2Svd5_BRdwNg

Fitting

[frank elbow]

-Ddebug is equivalent to -Ddebug="" iirc. This may be undocumented behavior

[polar plover]

Yeah, sounds about right. I just went for hardcoded custom name (english) in MP and left the translated custom name for SP.

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Startup_parameters

That's the doc we have of those

[frank lintel]

@bright fog that was kinda the point. they are invalid likely Im editing the wiki. just wondering if anyone else noticed that those arent even valid JVM arguements ignoring the fact its not evne a runtime thing thats at 'compile time' so was hoping someone could verify this.
wish I could look thru the exe and find the params in there... ^_^

[fossil willow]

So I have a question about the b42 mapping tools, I want to do a project but if it's not transferrable from the modded tools to the new tools (hopefully coming out soon) I don't really want to bother

I copied this question from the mapping channel since it's lowk dead

[bright fog]

That page hasn't seen a proper revision of what launch arguments are available in a while

[bright fog]

It will be fine

[fossil willow]

Wait could you elaborate

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mapping_tools_(Community_Edition)

[fossil willow]

Like

So if I do a map and learn all of this stuff I can import it to the new mapping tools when they come out god willling

[bright fog]

The community edition of the tools, and even Alree's tools, dorectly implement the official tools

The B42 official tools are already available, they are simply not compiled and distributed by TIS officially

But you can compile those yourself technically

The community edition tools directly fork the official tools to provide compiled and improved tools

And even if the official tools don't directly open your map file, there will most definitely be converters created by someone in the next weeks of the official tools release

[frank lintel]

Well guess I'll try and test'm I been working on that page actually a tiny bit just when reading official doc's explaining -D this way... kinda got me headscratching so figured people who code regularly would maybe grasp what this is saying...
`For example:

-D<system.property>=<value> will only be visible at build time. If this system property is accessed in the native executable, it will return null.`

cuz to me build time is when you compiling not a runtime executable option.

[bronze yoke]

i searched for where you found this and this is to do with compiling java to an executable, which pz doesn't do

[frank lintel]

exactly why I didnt understand why they listed a JVM compile time parameter. plus we already got -debug so -Ddebug seems redundant

[bronze yoke]

you're misinterpreting it

[fossil willow]

Дзякуй брат

[bronze yoke]

it's not 'these are only ever visible at build time', it's 'in native applications only, these are not visible at runtime'

[frank lintel]

okay understanding it now. I'll just have to hard test it see if they actually valid or maybe something left over from 41.x.y

[brittle swift]

Question, is there anything for items like how recipes have the override flag for editting vanilla entries or does modding vanilla items work differently than recipes? I'm looking to expand some functionality of my mod & need to add some tags to existing vanilla items that don't have them but wasn't sure how to go about editting vanilla items.

[bronze yoke]

build 41 or 42?

[brittle swift]

B42, my mod has no support for B41

[bronze yoke]

in b42 you can just create another item script with the same name with nothing but the extra tag and it'll add that tag

somodule Base { item WhateverItemYouWant { Tags = mymod:mytag, } }will add mymod:mytag to Base.WhateverItemYouWant

[brittle swift]

Aweome, thanks

[umbral pelican]

evening all, so about the every ten minutes function, happy to take any other methods to stop my mod from making boredom disappear too rapidly

think I may have figured it out

[umbral pelican]

mod all sorted https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3551703162&searchtext= if anyone like's miku too!

[frank lintel]

Sorry NS, was me in the wrong channel thought ya posted this in the 42_chat. MB.

dang suggested channels constantly scrolling my left sidebar up and down.

[haughty bridge]

now this isnt nessecarily zomboid related. but more of a lua thing

for emmylua

Does anyone know how to make a abstract type with ... for a function and how to pass the types that would go there instead
since in luau there is
type fn<t...> = (...t) -> ()

not exactly this but you get the idea

such as in the case of a signal

[bright fog]

By using T if I understood right what you meant

But I don't remember exactly how it works, I can find an example I think

https://github.com/PZ-HorseTeam/HorseMod/blob/main/Contents%2Fmods%2FHorseMod%2F42%2Fmedia%2Flua%2Fshared%2FHorseMod%2FEvent.lua

[soft spire]

how do i make this onto wearlable in game??

[bright fog]

That item is way too detailed for PZ's style tbh. But if you really want to, there's guides on how to make clothing items

Check pinned messages

[robust briar]

B41 - GPU Shader Particles.

Been very interesting working these. So many edge cases.

[bright fog]

So cool

[umbral pelican]

it's alright, just glad I finally got it to work, ended up using a counter to only apply every 2nd iteration (every 20 minutes) and realised I was not doing a negative on the boredom but setting it lol.

[tidal cipher]

can someone make a better gnomebar mod?

thanks

[robust briar]

Oops.. left the car running

[upbeat turtle]

shaders are hella fun once they get working

[robust briar]

I've had reshader for a while. But I wanted like, in-source replacements enhancements. So this java-modded shaders

[stable cove]

I was lowk expecting it to explode or some shit

[knotty stone]

just discovered that we can use different itemquantities in recipes o.O since when? xD

[blissful seal]

how does shipping java mods work, do you have to distribute .jar's externally or can you package it under media/

[bronze yoke]

you can package them inside a workshop mod if you want, but ultimately the user will have to manually install them

[blissful seal]

i seeee, that's unfortunate

[bronze yoke]

though if your java mod uses a mod loader (e.g. zombiebuddy) then generally only the loader will need to be installed manually

[blissful seal]

ah that sorta solves it in my eyes then

i think a java mod would be fun, id just make an addon for my existing mod -- inspired by all the folks doing shader stuff

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ZombieBuddy

[blissful seal]

righteous

[blissful seal]

behold, a slightly orange frying pan

[blissful seal]

ok ok

[quaint wyvern]

why does require fail randomly with vanilla modules there are other mods earlier in the load order requiring the exact same module

[bronze yoke]

it doesn't really matter, requiring a vanilla file doesn't do anything

[quaint wyvern]

so I'm trying to have a UI window eat escape so it closes the window instead of opening the pause menu. I'm wondering if I'm missing steps here

I have an object that derives from ISCollapsableWindow with setWantKeyEvents(true), isKeyConsumed(key) is defined to return key == Keyboard.KEY_ESCAPE, and onKeyRelease(key) does the closing. But those two functions are never called when I hit escape

never mind, I typoed

accidentally did setWantKeyEvents = true instead of setWantKeyEvents(true)

[modest tusk]

Do anyone know Snejk's discord? couldn't find it
I need to talk to him about his KEE(im currently porting it to 42.17)

[bright fog]

You are not allowed from reposting his mod, he has made it clear

[modest tusk]

That's why i need to talk to him ,i wanted to ask if i can use his method for my standalone mod

I'm not planning to repost his mod

[bright fog]

What method ?

As long as you don't reuse his code, you can do whatever you want

He doesn't own the game API, only the code he has written

So it's on you to not copy pasta his code

You can use it as a reference on how to do X and Y, that's usually completely fine

[buoyant violet]

your wording here makes it as if you are porting KEE

[modest tusk]

Yes i successfully ported it by fighting the java compilation error and the api fuckery
But that's entirely for educational purposes, I'm studying the method

Like i said i never planned to repost his mod

i myself planning to create my own mod, 'RTS PZ 'but ofc before that i need a reliable npc framework

That's why i studied several npc mods

Kee wasn't working for 42.17 so yeah i had to port it

i hope u guys understand

[blissful seal]

i think you've sated the mod guard dogs here 😂 idt its a big deal

this place is kinda like the mafia sometimes I swear lol

[buoyant violet]

guard dogs?

[blissful seal]

i said what i said

[buoyant violet]

apparently respecting what an author desires about their intellectual property is consider a guard dog

[blissful seal]

eh u can paint whatever picture you like big dog

[buoyant violet]

I said what I said

[blissful seal]

😄 u learn quick

[buoyant violet]

not surprised this stand comes from someone that defends AI left and right

[blissful seal]

oh so u know who i am

[buoyant violet]

I said what I said

[blissful seal]

cool my words are having an impact

good to know

[modest tusk]

Wdym?

[blissful seal]

i mean u convinced them that you werent being malicious so they left u alone, otherwise they would have kept going lol

[shy mantle]

Wdym?

[blissful seal]

we can keep going long as you like im js this discord gets a little prickly with alot of people

weird to watch

[shy mantle]

Wdym?

[blissful seal]

exactly this lol

[modest tusk]

I still need to talk to snejk tho,do anyone know his discord?

[shy mantle]

[frank elbow]

I can acknowledge that there are plenty of people in the community who come across as abrasive (imo it comes down to low levels of patience—among programmers soft skills aren't exactly the priority for many). I hope you can acknowledge that discussing how “prickly” this place is not long after referring to people as “guard dogs” is a bit silly

[blissful seal]

no i got you, and understand how that came across... my bad i poked the bear for sure. The thing is I got mad respect for literally everyone here, everyday someone does something that makes my jaw drop. At the same time it feels hard to have a "different" opinion here but I'll own my piece. I'm sorry and I hope we can come to understand each other in time

[bright fog]

The thing really is that you are not the first and you won't be the last to have opinions that are different. The problem is that you often only see the cases where we get defensive against "opinions" that really aren't and not the cases where we actually learn someone's opinion and they expose good arguments for or against our ideas

The other problem is that often these kind of arguments are brought against us as "you are wrong, I am right and you can kindly fuck off", like okay sure but of course we're going to be defensive about it especially with this kind of attitude.

Marz said it all and you try to be smart about it, but he has expressed that defending the intellectual rights is the reason why we act towards people that repost mod. Add onto that that if we let other modders we interact with do that, what's stopping them from going after our mods reposting our own intellectual properties. Of course we are going to defend Snejk and be so called "guard dogs" like you love insulting us with, if it's also about us.

You have yet to express proper arguments of why not respecting Snejk intellectual property is a good thing, only insulting us in response. And you are not the first doing this kind of thing, and then we look like a mafia when really it's just random people like you who come drop some idiotic "bombs" and then scream everywhere "haha modding community bad boys".

Now it's not like I went after @modest tusk like he's an horrible monster and should leave. It's not fine reposting his work but it's usually completely fine learning from it, doing your own, there's no problem with that. But the word "porting" like Marz explained is that it means updating the mod to the new versions, so yea if that wasn't your plan that was badly expressed, that's fine we clarified that, there wasn't any aggressive behavior from anyone about it

@modest tusk now about contacting Snejk, I know I've seen him in the modding Discord previously, he might still be there, or even around here

[blissful seal]

thats the thing i wasn't expressing an argument at all, i dont disagree with protecting intellectual property, my point was that the way you go about it, aggressive, passive agressive or otherwise comes across unfavorably sometimes. I apologized, like I said, I have a lot of respect for everyone here and the way I expressed my feelings about the above wasn't right. If you wanna dismiss whatever I'm saying I can actually live with that, two things can be true

[bright fog]

No we're good man, but yea you are not the first, you won't be the last. We ourselves are not perfect about our opinions, I am in fact not perfect when it comes to aggressivity, I have my fair share of points in that.

I'd consider the interactions we had above with Patrick were chill. By text some stuff can come out aggressive when there really wasn't anything like that.

[blissful seal]

for sure we are good in my book, that in particular wasnt anything i can agree. More of a pent up frustration from me leaking out

[modest tusk]

Yeah i admit it,i sound like i was actually going to entirely port and post it on that first message😅

Sorry if i caused a bit of unnecessary drama here

I Apologize to everyone

[modest tusk]

I've searched on several modding server and Pz related servers but i just couldn't find it,i guess I'll just give up and continue with my project

[torn igloo]

Anyone made a git runner for java modification, that will download and decompile latest b42 java, merge .patch files, compile the affected files and merge the compiled output to create the modified .jar then post it on release?

[bright fog]

To auto update Java mods ?

I'd instead suggest looking into the Java mod loaders that are available

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ZombieBuddy

[polar trail]

Does anyone know where to look for what settings do in the files?

I wanted to know how much livestock stat settings got reduced value wise

[frank lintel]

can someone double check Helicopter.java for me and verify make sure Im reading the code right that the helo only hangs around for a IG hour now?

if (this.hoverTime + this.searchTime > 60.0F) Is kinda obvious that its doing a 60min countdown just want to make sure before I update the wiki page for it

[modest tusk]

Wait wtf,i just knew this exist
I feel like I just discovered the wheel

I've been doing that entire decompile-patch-recompile loop manually for every update.

[bright fog]

Yea it's a tool that is starting to get a lot of traction, might become a wide spread Java mod loader

The dev is active

[modest tusk]

Thankyou sm,this would definitely helps me a lot in my project

[frank lintel]

also dont see code anymore for the randomization of the helo leaving but then comes back 30 IG minutes later.

[tidal nacelle]

has anyone done a mod adding the Dark Souls Death Screen into PZ yet?

[bright fog]

I think so actually

[robust briar]

Added cigarettes to my particles mod

[mellow frigate]

Do some of you know if it is intended that (some) admin functions are off when hosting in debug mode ?

[shy mantle]

Still need that "/setaccesslevel username admin", even in debug mode, it's a little messy

[mellow frigate]

thx

[sour island]

they seem to be switching to a permissions system

most likely with scalability and lesser admin roles in mind

[shy mantle]

I still feel like, as the host of a local server, you should just be admin by default, especially in debug mode

[strange delta]

pretty cool
do you have a link to your mod?

[bright fog]

That's not out yet, and that's a Java mod

[strange delta]

okay

well seems exciting

are you waiting for b42 to be fully out to release it?

[bright fog]

He's literally working on it man lol

Give him some time holy

Also it's a Java mod and he uses his own Java mod loader, and from my understanding his tool allows him to compile the mod files for every versions of the game when you load them so they stay up-to-date

[strange delta]

thats awesome wtf

[bright fog]

Yeaaaaaaa I'd rather see it using Zombie Buddy since that's getting popular 😅

But his system is still very interesting, would be nice combining it with the abilities from Zombie Buddy

[quaint wyvern]

wish there were more Java mods so we got more tooling and more advanced magic

though lately I've been obsessed with mini-games through lua

on an unrelated note, it seems X and space aren't properly consumed in UI key events?

I can eat escape and p so they don't propagate, but space/x still cause the character to shove and to rack their gun

[blissful seal]

haha im so bad at shaders but totally inspired by Gravy -- just messing around. I did use Zombie Buddy tho no issues so far.

[bright fog]

My guess is that they might not have normalized keybind handling, so maybe those keybinds are not handled the same as the others ?

[quaint wyvern]

ah well

[blissful seal]

can you just unset them via the ModOptions api temporarily?

[quaint wyvern]

I've been tinkering with tetris from the Turbo Game mod and adding features for private use, so I put in hard drop, piece holding, and rotating both ways, and space/z/x are usually used for those

[blissful seal]

oh ahaha thats amazing

[quaint wyvern]

hmm, maybe, seems kinda hacky but might have to resort to that

I can block space at least with player:setBlockMovement(true)

blocking x might be a non-issue if you need to hold the gameboy/etc while playing