mod_development

[tough oxide]

can we get a side-by-side and hold court?

[bright fog]

Black Moon can send his code, if I remember right he retrieves the current list of items, and reloads a part of script

But he needs to format that script from Lua

[tough oxide]

i do a lot of crazy shit but ive been doing my best to stress test and have decent results

[bright fog]

While the one I documented on the wiki, you just directly add the items to the correct ArrayList of inputs

[tough oxide]

that reminds me.. i need to add support for ArrayLists

seemlessly

[willow tulip]

Mine works on all recipes not just mappers

[bright fog]

Who told you the one on the wiki isn't about non mappers ?

[willow tulip]

infact if anything, mine isn't really for mappers at all.

[bright fog]

Neither is the one on the wiki 🧐

[willow tulip]

the non mapper code seems to have disappeared?

[bright fog]

🧐

That's two different sections

Both explaining two different things here

[willow tulip]

yea the 2nd method only does mappers via lua

and the first method can only add things

you can't override lines

[bright fog]

But if you want to override ... just override ? 💀

[willow tulip]

what, the entire file with 200 recipes?

[tough oxide]

im pretty sure you can cherry pick

[willow tulip]

if you override an 'entire recipe' via .txt, all PZ does is merge the two recipes together into some unholy abomination

[bright fog]

Nah nvm I forgot "overriding" a specific block doesn't override the block

[willow tulip]

nope.

[willow tulip]

yea it just merges them like the brendlefly

[tough oxide]

pull request

[bright fog]

Ah jeez I really hope they use fucking json in the future

[tough oxide]

that sounds like an annoying problem

[willow tulip]

thats why my code scans the inputs/outputs for the correct line to delete

so it can override instead of just.. add

[tough oxide]

is that behavior able to be changed via lua?

[willow tulip]

yes

[tough oxide]

im happy to dig in and try to figure something out

[bright fog]

Tbf you should just document on your method on the wiki anyway

[willow tulip]

Heres the code I use for replacing inputs/outputs

[willow tulip]

Can't be assed to make an account and edit it. Also don't feel like argueing with people over wiki stuff.

[bright fog]

What's the problem with making an account ?

Also "argueing", your method is still a valid one

[manic swift]

do I have to put this Oncreate thing in? im not trying to start messing with lua. the recipe now works but it does not give me the output, which is listed

[bright fog]

There's shit that's worth argueing and imo adding yours is completely fine too, considering how fucked it is to edit recipes

[willow tulip]

that I don't feel like doing it, just to argue with people over stuff on the wiki not being 'clear enough' or whatever.

[bright fog]

Good thing I'm here to smooth things out

Just go straight to the point, show code used, show example, explain what it does, done

[willow tulip]

Nope!

Oncreate is optional extra code to execute to mess with the item

[manic swift]

then it not giving the output is weird, it takes the inputs and even has the timer and animation. then it just.. gives nothing and takes the inputs

[bright fog]

Yea but again, why don't you add that in ?

[tough oxide]

recipe is a table here, right?: local recipe = getScriptManager():getCraftRecipe(recipeName)

or is it ArrayList?

[willow tulip]

that gets 1 recipe

[tough oxide]

gotcha - so you find the recipe in memory or wherever then replace each line?

[bright fog]

Adding new inputs really needs an overhaul, reflection isn't needed at all
then
Mine works on all recipes not just mappers
I'm sorry but if you're going to that extend to tell me about these and brag about it, but not even willing to put any effort in adding your methods to the doc, why do you even say these to me ?

[willow tulip]

Because I assumed you did want to edit the wiki and work on all that. Im not going to bother adding stuff myself because iv already tried that on wikipedia only to get into arguments with people who immediately reverted my corrections and I just don't care for that drama.

and honestly iv seen you arguing with someone today over their contribution so Im just like meh.

[tough oxide]

that arguing excites me

for the sake of proving why your approach is better

or learning otherwise

[willow tulip]

Yea honestly just wanted to talk more about the different approaches then care about the wiki getting updated. The mapper approch prob works better for multiple mods adding things to the same mapper.

I saw some code.. somewhere? where they used reflection though, seems to be gone now? dunno.

it was crazy lol.

passing items to test functions just to confirm if it was the right line or not or something like that.

[bright fog]

Because I assumed you did want to edit the wiki and work on all that.
I have expressed many times now that as time passes and the further I get through my thesis, the less time I'll have to work on any of these
I've set up a pretty good base for anyone to expand things without me having to be full present. And now I don't have that much time to do any documentation these days, i'm too occupied and I still try to find time for things but I don't have time, and I'm fucking tired

And then I get this kind of attitude from you, of course you had to be THE GUY to be annoying about such a new system. Of course there had to be someone complaining. You brag about your stuff, I confronted you about it because I thought it was just about editing inputs, now you've easily convinced me that this wasn't just about that (also because I remembered a bit more what it was about). And now you're basically going crying that I argued your method ?

[tough oxide]

like im doing my own thing based on frameworks ive used in other langauges:

local collection = MerlinCollection:new({
        { id = 1, type = "Base.Axe",    tier = "High" },
        { id = 2, type = "Base.Hammer", tier = "Mid" },
        { id = 3, type = "Base.Nails",  tier = "Low" },
        { id = 4, type = "Base.Screwdriver", tier = "Mid" }
    })

-- Scenario 1: Standard Table Exclusion
local forbiddenTypes = {"Base.Axe", "Base.Hammer"}
local filtered = collection:whereNotIn("type", forbiddenTypes)

[bright fog]

Now about Tcherno, I argued with him, and at the end I was also convinced about the arguments that were brought up, but the way it is written is arguably bad, it confuses people and makes them think activating mods in the main menu is the bane of humanity. Go more in depth about it, like they did when arguing with me

Now the ball is on your side to understand that in fact arguing with others about X Y Z methods is the best way to handle this, and that's why the Wiki works like that, because arguing brings up debates about what is best in general, how things should be brought up to the reader and it will at the end makes things better

No arguing = everyone's right and we get fucking idiots posting random ass shit like that bitch about animal mods who doesn't know jackshit about it, and this pisses me off

Then they talk about ethics and brag about knowledge they don't have or don't understand

[tough oxide]

man, you're gonna love where im heading lol

please keep this energy with me when i actually release properly

[bright fog]

Anyway stop being like that Black Moon seriously, you already pissed of a dev in the modding Discord constantly complaining about butchering, when you just had a fucking convo with him about it and he told you they are aware of it

The guy even made the effort of contacting QA during week-end outside of work, got a response, and yet you still pissed him off

[willow tulip]

And this is why I have no interest in touching the wiki, because it would inevitably mean more hostile arguments with you.

[tough oxide]

albion - just so you know i decided i was going to use starlit* as a refactor target with what im doing

im gonna put in a pull request (without any expectation of adoption) so you can see what im trying to do

[bright fog]

Like you're not being hostile half the time seriously

#908422783049007116 message

Go read that again please if you haven't yet

[manic swift]

alright ive been messing around and i still cant get this to actually give me the thing

[bright fog]

Missing comma

In the outputs

[manic swift]

when i put the comma in outputs it breaks the game

and pops up the unexpected error screen

[bright fog]

Also this can help in detecting problems (tho it's still being actively expanded)
https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ZedScripts

[bright fog]

Missing module

When referencing items you need to use the full type

[manic swift]

so thats when I put PBC.?

[bright fog]

Yup

[manic swift]

aaaa i see

[bright fog]

If the item is in the PBC module of course

[manic swift]

they all are, ill try this out

[tough oxide]

you are talking about in the output section cause the output could be any type - right?

[bright fog]

Wdym by "could be any type" ?

[tough oxide]

sorry - when i say type i mean module

[bright fog]

type usually refers to the ID, full type is module + type

[tough oxide]

yeah, namespace.class or namespace.item

[bright fog]

It's a bit of a fucked up way to call it which is used by the game so we use it 😅

Yea needs full type

[tough oxide]

that might be an intereting aside in the wiki

sort of cross-referencing terms to common terms

[bright fog]

Yea, that'll be handled when I rework the item script page

But it's a bit of a monster to edit ....

[bronze yoke]

interested to see what you cook up! because of its age starlit's code practices are pretty varied

[tough oxide]

to help people understand scoping and expectation - especially those with some experience

[tough oxide]

theres no way you wont have a problem with what im doing - for example - i take over __index and __newindex, but im doing it unapologetically knowing that could be a response

those are triple underscores and dont feel like fighting discord markdown atm

[bright fog]

Code blocks

[tough oxide]

fair

[bright fog]

Also I'm curious about what your stuff is about

[tough oxide]

double not triple

let me make it actually PZ structured and ill write appropriate docs

and, like i said, starlit is gonna be a target i use for seeing if it actually makes coding life better

thats my goal, but i dont want to create too much overhead obviously

[bronze yoke]

these days i'm more concerned about style than performance

[tough oxide]

for sure - this is some of the newer stuff im working on:

local data = {
        { id = 1, type = "Weapon", weight = 5,  broken = false },
        { id = 2, type = "Food",   weight = 1,  broken = false },
        { id = 3, type = "Weapon", weight = 10, broken = true  },
        { id = 4, type = "Food",   weight = 2,  broken = false },
    }
    
    local collection = MerlinCollection:new(data)

    print("Lazy chain")
    local results = collection:query()
        :where("type", "Weapon")
        :where("broken", false)
        :get()

expessive and efficient because the query builder turns this into a single loop

so when you read it later it makes sense

nothing actually happens until :get

and also - as the modder - what the hell is a for loop

[bright fog]

Hmm

[tough oxide]

needless to say - i dont like the for loop structure

in lua

[bright fog]

Why ?

[tough oxide]

the reason i dont like indents in python

no good reason - it just doesnt sit well with me

[bright fog]

[tough oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/slam-the-fart-moonmoon-pounding-deskchan-hard-gif-16394042

i dont like it

also, why not abstract it and reduce the things you actually need to know to code

[manic swift]

from my view this has NO REASON to not be working, its got commas, modules, everything. inputs and outputs, modes, names even

[bronze yoke]

i also dislike indentation as syntax

[tough oxide]

thanks

i was talking to a young programmer the other night (a son of a close friend) and he was complaining about something and i just said "if you can do it better - then do it"

[bright fog]

Wrong syntax for inputs

It uses an array like listing

I heavily suggest you use my extension ZedScripts

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/ZedScripts

[tough oxide]

i also have ZedScripts installed

[manic swift]

alright

[tough oxide]

even if i havent dug into that yet

[bright fog]

You need to activate it if it doesn't show up automatically

It should activate automatically for script files

[tough oxide]

im not in that area of modding so im not using it yet, but its there when i decide to move over

i spend all my time cursing Emmy and thanking her too

[bright fog]

Ah wait I thought it was Zain telling me that lol mb

That confused me a bit

[tough oxide]

yeah, im a chatty cathy tonight

[bright fog]

And I'm sicky tired tonight

Good mix

[tough oxide]

yeah, im not sure which stage of sick i am - i was "call out sick" tuesday and felt worse friday

but i have (young) kids in school so there is no telling

[manic swift]

that actually worked so bloody well, no more errors it says so im about to test again

[bright fog]

Tho do note like I said before that it's still in development, so some stuff won't have proper diagnostics yet

[manic swift]

yeah its not saying anythings wrong but this still wont work

got cool colors though so thats a bonus

[bright fog]

UnPackSack, is that a vanilla timed action ?

[manic swift]

yeah one sec

[bright fog]

Your item does appear in-game right ?

[manic swift]

yes I can spawn all 3

AHA! I got it

however pots have 30 uses so I have to edit the amount...

[manic swift]

everything is working.. aside from it actually being able to be used on plants

alright so new major issue, I even copied and pasted the base game fertilizer and compost and just edited it to fit mine but it wont work, in game the item also has no weight for some reason

if i can fix these the mod is done and unloadable

[bronze yoke]

for some reason items are weightless if they don't have a translation

[manic swift]

ah great..

time to reread that part of the wiki

where am I supposed to put that line? it says nothing about where

or is this a completely different file

[bright fog]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Translations

Also

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/DisplayName#Using_translation

[willow tulip]

such a fun bug/side effect

[manic swift]

says nothing about modules it seems

[bright fog]

Your question was about translations ?

[manic swift]

yeah it wants a file for it

and then a text file

[bright fog]

You need to read stuff we're sending you dude

[manic swift]

I am plus im looking at the game files

[bright fog]

I literally can't see anything in your last screenshot

[manic swift]

hang on

should be better

[bright fog]

What's the problem then ?

[manic swift]

The Zedscript is freaking out about it not being a thing though

[bright fog]

That's normal

Like I said it's in active dev, that's something I'm working on, rn it doesn't support translation files

[manic swift]

so do I need to add the module PBC or does it just want that and nothing else and itll be happy?

[bronze yoke]

translations aren't scripts, they don't have concepts like modules

[manic swift]

interesting

alright ill fill these out and test the items.. again

[bright fog]

Actually the item names translations need the module yes

What you wrote is fine

[manic swift]

okay so that goes for the recipe translations too right?

[bright fog]

Nop

Yes, it's inconsistent

[manic swift]

that makes ZERO sense

for why

[bright fog]

Yea, don't worry about it 😭

[manic swift]

I just wanted to make a silly bone to bonemeal mod and its spiraled so fast

welp adding the files didnt do anything other than change the display names

they are still weightless and dont actually add the things to the crops or get used

[willow tulip]

You'll have to spawn new ones for changes to take effect

(for certain values, like weight)

[manic swift]

you have GOT to be kidding me

[willow tulip]

nope, though I do have a refresh mod that lets you update items to the latest spawn version of them

but for debugging its easy enough just to use the item spawner :0

[manic swift]

i just wanted a use for bones why has the mod gods forsaken me

[paper ibex]

Hope you add support for .gitignore|zignore soon because the new version checks every .txt file.

[manic swift]

okay weight exists but it throws me errors when I actually try to use it

I cant see anything wrong anywhere

[willow tulip]

did you copy what fertilizer or something does or?

(or compost?)

[manic swift]

literally copied this

and tweaked values

Zedscripts also isnt saying anythings wrong

I know its still being developed but I fixed what it wanted earlier (a comma)

[willow tulip]

so what error are you getting?

[manic swift]

Id love to figure it out, the game pops up the red error box and throws about 100 each time

no fert is used from the item and nothing is given to the plant

side note I think my spacebar is dying

[manic swift]

zero clue how to see what it actually is though

[willow tulip]

c:\users\username\zomboid\console.txt

search for 'trace' and it will bring you to the errors soon enough

[manic swift]

this what im looking for?

[willow tulip]

yep.

[manic swift]

i have no idea what any of this means but im gonna look at line 22

which is just a bracket?

[willow tulip]

function ISFertilizeAction:start()
    self.item:setJobType(getText("ContextMenu_Fertilize"));

[willow tulip]

line 22 of ISFertilizeAction.lua

[manic swift]

I havent touched lua

weird

[willow tulip]

yes it means vanilla code sucks

ISFarmingMenu.onFertilize = function(worldobjects, handItem, plant, sq, playerObj)
    -- close the farming info window to avoid concurrent gorwing phase problem
    if not ISFarmingMenu.walkToPlant(playerObj, sq) then
        return;
    end

    if not isJoypadCharacter(playerObj) then
        if playerObj:getInventory():containsTypeRecurse("Fertilizer") then
            handItem = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip(playerObj, handItem, "Fertilizer", true);
        end

        ISTimedActionQueue.add(ISFertilizeAction:new(playerObj, handItem, plant, 100));
    end

    ISFarmingMenu.cursor = ISFarmingCursorMouse:new(playerObj, ISFarmingMenu.onFertilizeSquareSelected, ISFarmingMenu.isFertilizeValid)
    getCell():setDrag(ISFarmingMenu.cursor, playerObj:getPlayerNum())
end

this is the function that calls the function that is dying

Im pretty sure its failing at handItem = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip(playerObj, handItem, "Fertilizer", true);, its trying to equip an item called Fertilizer instead of being a good boy and looking at tags and stuff.

[manic swift]

greattttttt

[willow tulip]

Yea, you'll need to make your own fertilization code

[manic swift]

wait

[manic swift]

is it cause

use while equiped = false

[willow tulip]

no

its cause the vanilla code was never designed to handle other fertilizers except ones explicitly named base.fertilizer

(and base.compost or whatever)

you could prob hook/replace ISFarmingMenu.onFertilize to fix it.

[manic swift]

Ive never coded before so I have zero clue as to how to do that, and then make it overwrite the game if people subscribe on the workshop

can I like just copy paste the existing lua and alter it in the mod lua? that will overwrite the vanilla one right?

[willow tulip]

Yes actually.

you can also make a backup variable of the old LUA and call but, but for such a short function I would just overwrite it all for now.

I would recommend starting with something like:

function ISFarmingMenu:onFertilizeSquareSelected()
    local cursor = ISFarmingMenu.cursor
    local playerObj = cursor.character
    if not ISFarmingMenu.walkToPlant(playerObj, cursor.sq) then
        return
    end
    local plant = CFarmingSystem.instance:getLuaObjectOnSquare(cursor.sq)
    local handItem = playerObj:getPrimaryHandItem()

    if playerObj:getInventory():containsTypeRecurse("Fertilizer") then
        handItem = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip(playerObj, handItem, "Fertilizer", true);
        print("Handitem was ",handItem)
        if handItem == nil then
           handItem = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip(playerObj, handItem, "PBC.BoneSlop", true);
           print("Handitem became ",handItem)
        end
    end

    ISTimedActionQueue.add(ISFertilizeAction:new(playerObj, handItem, plant, 100))
end

I dunno if thats correct or the best idea, but its an idea to try.

make sure to place it in \lua\shared\

in a file with a .lua extension

the 'prints' will leave some text in your console/console.txt file about whats going on

[manic swift]

do I have to copy paste the whole fertilizer section or just that one and it will overwrite that one vanilla section?

[willow tulip]

just the one function

[manic swift]

can I just copy paste this and test it?

[willow tulip]

the above function should do something like "Handitem was nil" "handitem became isozomboidblahblahblah pbc.boneslop" (or maybe nil again)

[willow tulip]

yes

note im not 100% sure how ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip works, or if it will accept that itemname with module (TIS, why are you using items without modules?!?)

[manic swift]

they have modules!

[willow tulip]

Yea but they should be doing handItem = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip(playerObj, handItem, "Base.Fertilizer", true); not handItem = ISWorldObjectContextMenu.equip(playerObj, handItem, "Fertilizer", true);

[manic swift]

thats true..

alright ive copy paste.. gonna boot and pray

[willow tulip]

see this is why modules don't work well for mods: TIS doesn't use them, so the code that works with non default modules doesn't get tested -_-

so many things are just hardcoded to assume Base

[manic swift]

silly bone to bonemeal mod has become an entire overwrite of the games code

okay uh that seems to broke it more

back to the console I go

[manic swift]

it decided it didnt like any code instead

which technically means it was overwritten

so that works...

[willow tulip]

well that means it failed on a line of :new something

so thats. something...

did any of the prints execute above that error?

@manic swift

[manic swift]

uhhhhh on sec

[willow tulip]

weird

what folder is the file in?

[manic swift]

it threw 1 error when it loaded me into the main game menu itself as well

[willow tulip]

Hmmm

Dunno whats going on if none of the prints occured

[manic swift]

looking at the base game file

its only got like..

91 lines for that file

so where on earth is line 1182

[willow tulip]

Oh, did you name your lua the same as a vanilla file?

don't do that unless your replacing the entire files code (And even then, in LUA there are generally better ways to do that)

[manic swift]

I did..uh

[willow tulip]

yea, when you name a file the same as vanilla, the game goes "oh, ignore the vanilla file.. COMPLETELY, and use the mods'

so its whining about you not copying ALL the code over

instead, give it a unique name

and when it sees function ISFarmingMenu:onFertilizeSquareSelected() ... it goes "ok, we're assigning the variable ISFarmingMenu.onFertilizeSquareSelected to the function that is the following code

and LUA is kinda special in that function names.. are just variables

so assigning them a 'new value' 'just works'

[manic swift]

so I can namethe file anything and it will look at the start of your code and go "oh just do this"

[willow tulip]

yep

[manic swift]

yeah my spacebar is broken

good lord

[willow tulip]

mod code is always run after vanilla code, so it will always run after vanilla code and 'reassign' this function to your code

[manic swift]

mkay im gonna test this out again

[willow tulip]

try to name the filename 'unique' however.. because you can also conflict with other mods by accident!

and just randomly override one of their files if your filename matches -_-

[manic swift]

theres no like... guards in place for that?

so thats why some mods blow up others..

[willow tulip]

I wish -_-, you'd THINK you could only do that if mod X is dependent on mod Y but nope...

just allowed to do it all willy nilly

[willow tulip]

yea when completely unrelated mods blow up each other depending on load order, that can be the cause

[manic swift]

uhhhh

..one sec

okayyyyyy so bad news and good news

good news is the red box wont pop up

bad news is the game closes on the loading lua screen

[willow tulip]

lol. check the console.txt

[manic swift]

console.txt here I come

uhhhh

messing with lua has made this turn from a spiral to a rapid decline

damn you lua!

i feel like messing with a fertilizer thing should not be setting everything else on fire

[willow tulip]

lol. No idea

sometimes PZ just.. does that thought, so maybe try again?

[manic swift]

I tried 2 times

ill try a third..

[willow tulip]

what did you rename your file?!?

y̵̟̮͗͌o̸̓̉̽̌ü̴̆͆͛à̷̏̀̕r̴̊̓̈̕e̵̙̼̽ͅdooṁ̈́e̵̾͊̉̉d̶̋̈́̑͠.̵̍̓͌͗l̷͑͛͝͠ua?

[manic swift]

aaaaaaa

[willow tulip]

I was close.

[manic swift]

that shouldnt be causing issues right??

[willow tulip]

no thats looks fine

[manic swift]

it like..

does this mean it fried the textures?

that list goes on for agesbtw

[willow tulip]

I mean, maybe? But more likely its something like: your gpu leaked memory or something.

Or, you added one too many... ,'s somewhere and exploded the lua compiler

Id first rename your .lua to .bak, justincase...

[manic swift]

.bak? what is even that

[willow tulip]

you didn't edit any .txt files recently? because small errors in those can blow up unrelated systems

.backup

[manic swift]

ah

[willow tulip]

aka file that PZ will ignore

[manic swift]

renamed.. ill try a reboot

[manic swift]

nope

it blew up

[willow tulip]

yea well its not that file then lol

reboot might be a good idea

[manic swift]

im gonna reboot this pc

brb

[willow tulip]

"I have no idea whats going on, so try turning it off and on again"

[manic swift]

I mean it usually fixes it dont it

[willow tulip]

Often yes, especially if the error makes no sense whatsoever.

[manic swift]

DAMMIT

it broke at loading scripts

but

it gives me a place to look

[willow tulip]

so are you crashing before main menu or?

[manic swift]

im crashing loading the game itself

[willow tulip]

yea.. so look at your .txt files next

[manic swift]

I altered a textue name that seemed odd

attempting start

annnnnnd it broke

[willow tulip]

lol... what texture name? in your mod or?

[manic swift]

the texture png I made for the boneslop

[willow tulip]

ahhh.

there ya go.

[manic swift]

it uh

it aint happy

console.txt save me..

same exact errors

changed that entire item to be a copy of seed paste, so bone meal will be the only fertilizer

gonna see if that fixes it

it didnt..

you know what im gonna verify the integrity of the steam files in case I deleted something

O H

that uh... that would do it

it didnt actually

it crashed again after fixes and fried 11 files again

im at a loss

I got scripts and everything but lua is broken and any changes set it on fire

[willow tulip]

weird

your not saving files to the zomboid dir right?

[manic swift]

the huh?

[willow tulip]

like your using the mods dir right? or workshop dir?

not saving things to projectzomboid\media right?

[manic swift]

everything is saved to MY mod

which is here

annd that didnt censor personal info

one sec

myuser\zomboid\workshop

[willow tulip]

k, dunno why validating would keep coming up with files

[manic swift]

which then goes there

[willow tulip]

you don't have other files open in your text editor or something?

[manic swift]

nope

im gonna verify again real fast

all the files are good

but it implodes at scripts still

im gonna remove the lua stuff from the mod entirley and see if it can boot

silly bone mod went from simple to very not real fast

I have a newfound respect for modders who do the insane stuff

..I may have to wait for them to make a mod like this instead at this rate good god

reinstalled the game and its alive

im going to insert the mod again, it has no files that mess with lua and is just scripts

gonna take this slow.

[tame lily]

where is recipes_blacksmithing

[manic swift]

so I have an update for you if you can do anything with it....

without the lua file in my mod everything works fine, if you equip my bonemeal bag in your primary hand it uses some of its capacity, though you cant see if a plant is fertilized or not which is dumb

however if its in your inventory it wont put it in your hand,it throws errors, uses no capacity and since you cant see if it adds anything to the plant i dont know if it works

this is what console says about it

so what if instead I just.... get rid of the bonemeal item and make that crafting recipe just make actual base fertilizer

itll take from my ideas for the mod a bit but would guarantee compatibility which is mainly what I want

[willow tulip]

yea making base fertilizer is a good idea for now

you SHOULD be able to override the LUA to take other items, but that'll take some more research

[manic swift]

bone slop can be composted now as well so boom both fertilizer and compost can be made

[willow tulip]

nice

[tame lily]

where's the blacksmithing recipes

[willow tulip]

in the forge.

[manic swift]

ill update on how this goes

[willow tulip]

K, good luck to you.

[manic swift]

changed recipes and translations

just tested...

ladies and gentlemen...

we got em

https://tenor.com/view/nasa-cheering-rocket-computer-happy-gif-5662333

[willow tulip]

lol

[manic swift]

now I need to figure out how to upload to the steam workshop

oh it seems easy

[tame lily]

i mean the recipe file

[tame lily]

i dont see it here in the recipes folder

[willow tulip]

use a text search for the recipe your looking for

[vivid imp]

I've uploaded Version 3 of the community human rig that focuses on GLB exporting, alongside other improvements. If anyone could give it a shot I'd be greatly appreciative!
https://github.com/Paddlefruit/ProjectZomboid_CommunityRig

[manic swift]

where am I supposed to put this preview.png file it wants

im using the zomboid inagame uploader

[willow tulip]

your modinfo describes an icon and preview, I think preview is the big pic used when you click and icon is the small one

[manic swift]

alright

[willow tulip]

poster=poster.png icon=icon.png

oh, workshop\modname\preview.png

mines 256x256, I think its what appears on steam

[manic swift]

yeah I have a 256x256 image

hm

[willow tulip]

so mine is in C:\Users\Black Moons\Zomboid\Workshop\Bug Zapper 9000 with workshop.txt

[manic swift]

hm

it still wont see it

[willow tulip]

maybe you encoded it wrong somehow?

Heres a 'working' preview.png

on mac/unix it may also be case sensative.

[manic swift]

thanks

now I wait for steams automation

the war is over

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-war-is-over-gif-26452397

[willow tulip]

Yay

[manic swift]

I started this yesterday and said "oh im sure this will be quick, two hours max"

it has been 13 total.

am i allowed to post a link to it anywhere?...

im quite proud of it

[willow tulip]

pretty much anywhere, just not with annoying frequency 🙂

[manic swift]

ill post a link here once then

the mod!

[tranquil kindle]

Protos? My life for Aiur!

[silent zealot]

Congrats! I saw the reddit post, nice to see itt as a mod now.

[manic swift]

This was so much more than I expected

[silent zealot]

That's true of absolutely every form of programming 😂

Did you end up with 500 other mod ideas while working on it?

[manic swift]

……yes

Ive had this great idea for a cart like thing specifically for corpses so you dont use as much endurance when moving mass amounts of them. Would be faster to.. but im nowhere NEAR making that

[silent zealot]

It's worth keeping track of those ideas... I've got a OneNote full of mod ideas and random bits of code that may come in useful

[manic swift]

I know how to make scripts but no idea what any of the lua means, so ill be making more Qol mods if I do make more

[silent zealot]

It's an easy way to get started, and you can gradually do some minor stuff with lua as you need to

If you've doen any programming or scripting before you'll pick up the basic of lua easily... then you just have to deal with Zomboid jank.

[manic swift]

I have absolutely never touched a line of code. This was the first time I did anything

[native fable]

moderatorr can u make shaders for project zombid

[bright fog]

It shouldn't, it only checks for files which respect the following regex: /\/media\/scripts\/[\/\w\s]*\.txt/

So it should only detect actual script files

[worthy pawn]

Has isRanged changed? I'm getting an error with my Mod Handlebar's Preppers everytime it is called.

I'm throwing an error everytime I hit this line

      -- For every weapon attached, get the ammo and magazine
      for i=0, weaponsNum - 1 do
          local item = attachedWeapons:getItemByIndex(i)
          if item:isRanged() then
              local bullet = item:getAmmoType()
              local box = item:getAmmoBox()
              local mag = item:getMagazineType()
              table.insert(bulletList, bullet)
              table.insert(ammoBoxList, box)
              table.insert(magazineList, mag)
          end
      end
      ```

For example if zombie has a shotgun, it is pulling base:shotgun_shells

However from what I can gather it is now base:shotgunshells

If an M14, it is will call for base:bullets_308 when the item is now called Base.308Bullets

[worthy pawn]

My error seems be with it calling incorrect item names on ammunition. This is my B42 I've been working on to move everything over. (what a mess)

Also, it is counting WalkieTalkies as ranged items!?

[worthy pawn]

So I've narrowed it down to when the getAmmoType is running it is just pulling the wrong information. I don't know where it is pulling it from as none of these match up to the official wiki and I can't find changelogs where the name of the ammo type was changed in the wiki either.

[bronze yoke]

base:bullets_308 is the AmmoType, not the item key

call item:getAmmoType():getItemKey() to get the actual item key

[worthy pawn]

Is this something new with B42 the way that works?
My apologizes as I info dump here. I just loaded up B41 and getAmmoType() pulls the item key, I'm not sure why it is handled differently but I will try what you have said and report back.

[worthy pawn]

Bloody brilliant. That worked. Thank you so so much.

[bronze yoke]

yes, it was changed in 42.13

[thick lark]

Where can I find the backpack stuff in the B41 files

Like duffel bags and stuff

Nvm just found it

🤦‍♂️

[fresh isle]

I'm struggling to make a clothing item spawn with something in its attachment slot, I thought I would reference the weapons but I'm not sure it works the same way-- not sure if it's possible to do with clothes? I thought I could do an OnEquip and have it spawn in the slot, and disappear if unequipped, but I think I'm lost.
Essentially I'm trying to make a clothing item that glows, I thought the easiest way to do that would be to mimic the mining helmet from Better Flashlights, but the hat/light are totally separate objects that you find and put together to work

[bronze yoke]

that's not really how attachment slots work

clothing gives an attachment slot to the player, but it doesn't really have an attachment independent of that

for example you can't have a holster with a gun in it unequipped

[fresh isle]

Ahh, yikes fair enough

Is there a way to directly attribute light to a clothing? I was basically repurposing the vest code that holds a flashlight but I want it to just be holding the light, or tying the two totally together

[silent zealot]

I'm pretty sure only heldheld items and attached items can emit light.

IsoPlayer.java:

There are other places with similar code, like LightingJNI.java calling IsoGameCharacter:getActiveLightItems()

I poked through the lighting stuff a lot when working on better headlights, there is so much hardcoded in java.

[silent zealot]

What about an item of clothing that adds an attachment slot, and some lua magic so when you put on the clothing a "clothingLight" gets spawned in your inventory and equipped in that slot? Then you have to disable removing/dropping it, and make it vanish when the clothing is unequipped... which might be possible if you use the "hidden cosmetic item" trick but that was never intended for attached items so it might go weird.

[mellow frigate]

Does anyone know by heart the Z elevation size of the mouse cursor ?

[bright fog]

z*3 if I understood your question right

[mellow frigate]

I expected a Z constant.

afaik the mouse cursor represents the z elevation between the tile (z=0) and the head of a typical humanoid.

[fresh isle]

I haven't been able to get an OnEquip function to work- is onequip for like tool items? Is there a lua function for wearing clothes?

[silent zealot]

there's an OnClothingUpdated event

https://github.com/demiurgeQuantified/PZEventDoc/blob/develop/docs/Events.md

You could also add code to the timed actions for putting clothes on/off

[bright fog]

Oh do you mean the aiming cursor thingy ? Like the circle with the vertical bar ?

I probably have that constant in one of my previous projects wait

[distant inlet]

Hello, modders! Does anyone know if objects/items have IDs in latest release?

[bright fog]

Why wouldn't they ?

[distant inlet]

idk, but my understanding is that the only ID-like prop is, maybe, a memory address. I'm asking more about a stable ID

Another piece to my question is how to retrieve objects/items by ID

[bright fog]

You'll have to make your question a bit clearer, do you mean an ID to identify unique objects after reloads ?

Bcs items use what is called a full type (shitty name, ik), which is the module.ID of the item

If you're talking about identifiers of unique objects, it depends

[distant inlet]

identifiers of unique objects and items that exist between reloads, like a specific vehicle ID or weapon ID. An analogy is car VIN as an identifier (not make+model+trim)

[bronze yoke]

items have a mostly unique id, objects don't

[distant inlet]

is there a wiki in regard to the item id?

[bright fog]

Nop

I suggest looking through the JavaDocs

For InventoryItem

[willow tulip]

There is an item id value used for networking purposes, I dunno how persistent it is

You also need to know what container the object is in, to get the object again, IIRC

You are however free to add modData to any item

[willow tulip]

Good news: they fixed the inventory bug

public int getCapacity() {
        int capacity = this.capacity;
        if (this.isOccupiedVehicleSeat()) {
            capacity /= 4;
        }

        if (this.parent instanceof BaseVehicle) {
            return Math.min(capacity, 1000);
        } else {
            return this.containingItem != null && this.containingItem instanceof InventoryItem ? Math.min(capacity, 50) : Math.min(capacity, 100);
        }
    }

Bad news, they left in all the stupid limits like 50 for inventory containers, 100 for furniture and 1000 for vehicles.

public int getCapacity() {
        int capacity = this.capacity;
        if (this.isOccupiedVehicleSeat()) {
            capacity /= 4;
        }
        return capacity;
        }
    }

Sometimes less is more TIS!

And setCapacity's warnings are still uhh....

public void setCapacity(int capacity) {
        if (this.parent instanceof BaseVehicle && this.capacity > 1000) {
            DebugLog.General.warn("Attempting to set capacity of " + this + "over maximum capacity of 1000");
        } else if (this.containingItem != null && this.containingItem instanceof InventoryItem && this.capacity > 50) {
            DebugLog.General.warn("Attempting to set capacity of " + this.containingItem + "over maximum capacity of 50");
        } else if (capacity > 100) {
            DebugLog.General.warn("Attempting to set capacity of " + this + "over maximum capacity of 100");
        }

        this.capacity = capacity;
    }

.. dependant on the previous value before you call setCapacity :p

[shy mantle]

100 for furniture? You can get more than 100 in a single tile space with 2 crates (not to mention 3)?

Someone could make a single large container with 300, guess not

[willow tulip]

yea I have a mod for that :p

2, technically.

copy pastes function, changes 2 function call.. names

impulseFromHitZombie->impulsesFromHitObjects
impulseFromSquishedZombie->impulsesFromSquishedBodies

boring stuff like that.

(TBF, I agree with the above two variable name changes, as they make the true usage of those variables a lot less confusing)

I wonder if they actually fixed deer/cows flipping your car when you drive over them slowly.

Or changed any of the values my mod depends on to seperate plant impacts vs zombie impacts -_-

[shy mantle]

They said they fixed the damage, nothing about physics, but they usually don't tell us everything so

[willow tulip]

.corpseSize is still insanely high for cows and stuff (7 vs a zombies 1) so I doubt it.

(Realistic car physics already fixes running over cows/etc flipping your vehicle)

Lets test.

Random mod idea: Sort KI5 last. A mod that just puts your 100 KI5 mods that all start with 2 digits <name of car> to the end of your mod selection page instead of at the top so you don't have to constantly scroll past them to enable/disable any mod

I think the running over zombie ragdoll physics got some changes lol

they now go flying instead of falling ontop of the car so often

or maybe its just the vehicle im using today

Cool game, a zombie fell ontop of car, over my tire, and now that tire is hovering in the air :p

yea they did not fix driving over cow corpses flipping your vehicle even at low speed -_-

[knotty stone]

its not a bug, its a feature...

[willow tulip]

its a bug iv given them a LUA fix for that they still haven't used 🙁 Its even on their frequently reported bugs list.

someone had just set cows/deer/etc corpsesize far too high and never tested it.

[knotty stone]

improved the headlights of the w900, i think thats fine and more realistic

[willow tulip]

Oh hey I noticed a W900 Realistic car physics patch now

[willow tulip]

Also I need to add better headlights to project summer car -_-;

[knotty stone]

yea you could do that

[willow tulip]

Did you wanna see what my W900 patch looked like?

[knotty stone]

sure, i just tweaked a bit the horsepower weight and capacity

[willow tulip]

this allows it to only be active when the beta overhauls are enabled in realistic car physics

[knotty stone]

ah ok

just remembered i have to get rid of the payload lua for the submod, i forgot that

[willow tulip]

Mainly was just trying to make an example of how the overhaul values work

[knotty stone]

so with that file i dont need an extra submod

shared folder?

[upper moat]

did new update broke your mod @willow tulip ? 😛

[willow tulip]

yep shared.

[upper moat]

I jad to delete the zombie folder 🙁

[willow tulip]

Yep.

[upper moat]

ait so I know its that

btw

[willow tulip]

Every PZ update, delete the zombie folder and await java mod updating

[upper moat]

ever tried pulling one of those containers from.ki5 ?

seems.you csnt pull them.with your horsepower addon on

[willow tulip]

No, the problem is anything without wheels will have chassie friction with the ground

and thats crazy high

[upper moat]

ow yeah I haven't tried without your mod tbh

[willow tulip]

yea, in vanilla they don't tow with anything in them

[upper moat]

so we need a flatbed mod to laod em?

no to think of it I think in b41 you could load them on with other mod that also let's you load cars

but I think that's not on b42 yet right

[willow tulip]

Maybe, that or just don't tow them when full, IMO W900 semi trailer mod is far superiour 🙂

[willow tulip]

And yea, it will let you overhaul the weight/cargo/engine sounds, when the realistic car physics overhauls are enabled

[upper moat]

I think it was a empty gasoline one

[willow tulip]

also, even when they are off, realistic car phyiscs will let trunks of over 1000 capacity still work

(B42.14 allows trunks up to 1000 again)

[upper moat]

-time was def not full

[upper moat]

just the trunks?

[willow tulip]

W900 has gasoline tanker trailers to

[upper moat]

true

[willow tulip]

Yea

[upper moat]

it was my fix also to just get the trailer hehe

but I like the bee skin 😛

fkn devs I need all capacity unlocked 🙁

[willow tulip]

yea realistic car physics just deletes all the capacity limits because they are dumb

Total Capacity Override too (also needs update)

[upper moat]

too bad that other dude never implanted your maybe fix

[willow tulip]

the LUA capacity override dude?

yea that would have been cool

[upper moat]

yeah that one

[willow tulip]

he rewrote ALL the transaction code -_-

[upper moat]

cant u fix it? 😛

[willow tulip]

All he needed to do was some reflection to getCapacity() without using getCapacity()

[upper moat]

I mean it would save everyone a headache that mod

[willow tulip]

Iv given up being a tryhard and now just edit ItemContainer.java directly.

[upper moat]

maybe we should make a petition to scrap that cap lock

😛

ic happy the cars got fixed tho

[willow tulip]

Iv already told a dev its dumb to have a capacity limit in a game with 9000 other sandbox variables, where every item/car already has its OWN capacity limit

[upper moat]

atleast something we can use to hoard hehe

[willow tulip]

they shrugged and just fixed the 100 trunk bug.

[upper moat]

true

well in the end capacity lock got hacked anyway so what's the point right

BTW I also.loved your car sounds hahaa

inwas speeding with a semi and empty cattle trailers and I went full on the turn and the trailer drifted 90° haha

was awesome

as it did the trick in the turn hahaha

the sounds in the wheels went bananas

[knotty stone]

but only modded vehicles seem to be affected somehow. https://streamable.com/koo9wb

[upper moat]

haha that looked funny tho

[knotty stone]

best strategy to kill zeds with a car ^^

[willow tulip]

lol

[upper moat]

hen again the container is also heavy right

[upper moat]

true that

[knotty stone]

mustang and taxi are about the same weight

[upper moat]

or a 100k round minigun 😛

[knotty stone]

Еще раз мразь за 5 минут обновишь свой мод мразь что бы мы сервак перезапускали, то я приеду в твою страну и пырну тебя обдроченной бутылкой Such comments are really sweet 😂 maybe i just just delete the mod🤪

[willow tulip]

Nah, take it as encouragement to put out more updates 😛

"Remember to mash that upload and update button"

[mellow frigate]

thats report & game ban material

Steam does not hit lightly on such things

[knotty stone]

yea i reported to steam

[willow tulip]

Realistic Car Physics updated now.

[knotty stone]

@willow tulip i tried messing around with the sounds, but they dont seem to loop? and when the custom crank sound is done playing you still hear the last part of the standard sound

                    exhaustSound = "IdleEngine", exhaustSoundBias = 0.2, exhaustSoundMultipler = 0.8,
                    crankSound = "vehicle_start", startSound = "RCP_Engine2Start",}```

i used the vanilla sound files, they have new car sounds that sound rly good

[willow tulip]

check out how they are defined in realistic car physics

Mainly the Loop = true for some, false for others (like startup sounds)

[willow tulip]

yea mine are based off vanilla sound files to

I kinda recommend using a sound script and extracting the sounds from the .bank file, I have no idea how it works if you use the files directly.

Oh crap I forgot to update the sound names in that file.

oh well.

[upper moat]

awesome

the other Java dude is also busy 😛

[willow tulip]

So yea, renaming a lot of the sounds soon.. lol

[willow tulip]

other java dude?

[upper moat]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3625921385&tscn=1771277255

this one

[willow tulip]

ah 🙂

[upper moat]

need thay for my mod

cause that lua dude doesn't fix his 😛

[willow tulip]

Ah lol.

Realistic car physics/Total capacity override have similar files

[upper moat]

its all good I still have my trusty Java dudes 😛

yeah but does your also work for items

my mod is a non physical.item like a bag

[willow tulip]

yes

it now just limits you to 100,000 because I thought that'd be good enough to store most of the game in one item and crash it

[upper moat]

so your mod fixes everything that has a container type

[willow tulip]

Yes

[upper moat]

100k dude

wtf

10 would even be enough

[willow tulip]

TCO also then lets you override everything with a container, from the player, to the floor, to furniture and cars (No backpacks yet..)

[upper moat]

10k

[willow tulip]

yes but what is the point of rasing the limit to sane amounts?

[upper moat]

oow

didn't k ow that so I just need your files and that's it?

[upper moat]

we tested oit mod on 41 way back and lagged the fk oit with 8k worth of items in it

[willow tulip]

lol.

[upper moat]

100k logs would work maybe

[willow tulip]

depends on the size of item, but yea

[upper moat]

cause either just 1 item

but we dumped everything in it haha

and hydrocrsft also had a shit ton

havent tested it on b42 tho

cause you also lagged with item cheat menu and now you don't

[mellow frigate]

Is there a mod that adds a perk and works in B42 I can take example on ?

[knotty stone]

learn to read? but perks are broken in mp

@willow tulip https://streamable.com/m31byc
sounds very different to the file 🧐

[willow tulip]

yea its pitchbent, the EngineSoundRPM is what the sound files RPM should be

[knotty stone]

for science i added the same sound to all steps and it only sounds right when starting

[willow tulip]

startup isn't pitch bent

[knotty stone]

[willow tulip]

adjust EngineSoundRPM

I dunno why you set it to 6000 -_-;

[knotty stone]

its 3000 in the vid

[willow tulip]

yea that file sounds more like a 1500 idle lol

[knotty stone]

6k sound kinda good lol

[willow tulip]

But yea, it has to be pitch bent based on RPM

vanilla cross fades(?) between multiple sounds.. and hence why it sounds like a dozen indistict sewing machines playing at once

@knotty stone Just updated all the LUA and readded the RPM files properly for vanilla vehicles -_-

also fixed startup sound being too loud

[knotty stone]

the exhaust sound is just a super short stutter, does it have any purpose?

[willow tulip]

Exhaust sound is supposed to be a recording from the back of the car (ie exhaust noises) while engine is the front

they both get pitchbent

but at low throttle settings, Engine sound is loudest

at high throttle, exhaust sound becomes loudest

thats what engineSoundBias = 0.4, engineSoundMultipler = 0.5, does

Bias = starts at 0.4 volume, multiplier = increases by throttle * 0.5

vs:

exhaustSoundBias = 0.2, exhaustSoundMultipler = 0.8,

also, mod just updated, try some of the vanilla vehicle sounds now that iv overhauled their names and stuff -_-;

[knotty stone]

k

[willow tulip]

["Engine1"] = {engineSound = "RCP_Engine_1_Engine", engineSoundRPM = 3000, engineSoundBias = 0.4, engineSoundMultipler = 0.5, 
                    exhaustSound = "RCP_Engine_1_Exhaust", exhaustSoundBias = 0.2, exhaustSoundMultipler = 0.8,
                    crankSound = "RCP_Engine_1_Crank", startSound = "RCP_Engine_1_Start",},

Basically though that is how my mod makes the engine sound different when you apply throttle, instead of just getting louder

IRL at idle, the exhaust tends to be rather quiet while you get a lot of 'engine' noise of all the moving parts

but when you floor it, the exhaust gets a LOT louder while the moving part noise tends to be somewhat similar (aside from increased intake noise)

Also with just 2 sounds instead of... 10+ required, it might be possible for people to record vehicles without a studio+dyno

[mellow frigate]

thx

[willow tulip]

(plus there is just no way to add extra engine sounds in vanilla due to how fmod and bank files are set up)

@knotty stone example of exhaust vs engine sound

engine 1 is maybe a better example

[knotty stone]

so its like idle vs 3000 rpm like

[willow tulip]

no

its basically like a recording from under the hood vs behind the vehicle, same RPM

Engine noise = Cams, lifters, valves, fanbelts, alternators, power steering pump and intake

Exhaust noise = Exhaust

or ELI5: Engine noise = high pitched noises, Exhaust noise = low pitched noises

[knotty stone]

not bad, ignore retanaru in background xD
https://streamable.com/dbt5nv

had to set horsePower = 150, it was a bit to fast xD

[willow tulip]

Hehe, yea if it has a horsepower 'overhaul', the horsepower -> 4x vanilla horsepower

I gave it like 400HP in my overhaul because it was also like 8000kg

cause thats what google say its specs would be abut lol

400 was a bit extreme (1600hp vanilla), though didn't feel too bad with a trailer

also, would be basically untowable by anything else lol

especially offroad

but would also tow and shove other vehicles like they where nothing

[willow tulip]

But yea, sounds good :0

[silent zealot]

Add a Cheap Trim = annoying rattling at high speed 🤣

[willow tulip]

haha

[silent zealot]

Probably far more effort than it is worth, but damage based sounds? A THUMP-THUMP-THUMP-THUMP scaling with speed when a tire is damaged, etc.

[willow tulip]

There actually is a damage track played when your engine is very low condition (vanilla even)

[silent zealot]

I'm going to pretend this is because they loved my Foldable Survival Rifle mod that could load both .223 and 5.56, and it made them realize that the two calibers were redundant. 😂

[fresh isle]

Would you know how to print the value of an object to console instead of the memory address? I am trying to print the values of character:getWornItems() into console, it gives me wordscramble rather than the clothing items

[noble dock]

Hey all! Just starting to dip my toe into the modding PZ world - basically I'm trying to take a 3D asset and add a context menu option to "add to map" that then places the object onto that tile. I tried creating both a B41 and B42 mod the other day with the help of AI [before reading the modding wiki/resources and then seeing the note on AI and feeling like an idiot after it not working after hours lol] so want to now dive into how to actually build/develop the mod. I'm finding that alot of the guides for importing assets (either vehicles or clothing or stuff) are out of date - where would be a starting place to, well, start figuring this out lol? Thanks!

[willow tulip]

Why the hell is vehicle:getId() and vehicle:getID() valid and return different values -_-. I hate this ever so much.

in vehicle, its getId() you want, while in inventoryItem its getID(), cool -_-

[silent zealot]

It's probably an ArrayList of something, so iterate through the ArrayList and print each piece

Remember java ArrayLists start at 0, not 1 like Lua. Because Lua is an abomination.

[fresh isle]

Thanks for the quick response🙌

[willow tulip]

Actually its worse, Wornitems is its own fancypants class:

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/characters/WornItems/WornItems.html

(At least, thats what most getWornItems() return)

[fresh isle]

I guess I'm trying to find my custom item in WornItems, but I get errors for basically anything I print

[willow tulip]

yea, so something like

local wornitems = character:getWornItems()
for x = 0, wornitems:size()-1
  local item = wornitems:get(x)
  -- do thing with item
end

also looks like it might be of some use

depending on what you want exactly.

[bronze yoke]

use : in lua

[willow tulip]

... Damnit! Sorry. Fixed now.

Keep swapping between java and Lua and I keep mixing those two up

[fresh isle]

Thanks for the help, I'll have to try working on this tomorrow, I've been struggling to get anything to print that indicates it's working, but that's probably my coding

[cinder storm]

panik

[willow tulip]

yea see my changes, I made a mistake or two ;P also feel free to post your errors here if your having problems decoding them

[willow tulip]

Hu, vanilla headlights seem brighter in B42.14

lol they fixed havingf a flashlight on in the car

flashlight is still wayyyyy brighter then vanilla though

flashlight is nearly obnoxiously HDR bright lol

heavy duty flashlight

at least they have more distance then the flashlight now in B42.14 lol

though thats also at 100% condition, they drop to half intensity/distance/focus at 0%

thats better.

... Ok maybe too much.

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

There.. thats not too bad.

Next need to add code to make rear lights turn white/brighter when backing up

[tough oxide]

i keep ending up in rabbit holes as i build something that hope will make people's lives easier while modding - but i do have a decent testing system now:

that testing output and coverage was one of the rabbit holes

or one of many
EDIT: (i committed to near zero outside dependences) which i normally hate, but i think the PZ community needs to agree on a package manager.

[shy mantle]

You can still do it, forgot how though (yes I know I forgot in the same day that I figured out how to do it again)

[manic swift]

Changelog: 26/02/16

added support for Harvest Zs cannibalism. Human teeth may be used in crafting Pot Of Bone Slop, just like base game Herbivore teeth.

No bugs found after today’s Zomboid update.

[pliant cypress]

Question did build 42.14 ruin guns again

[pliant cypress]

And how do I transfer my hosted server to the newest update if it's not ruined

[tranquil kindle]

They did remove .223 caliber and all the bullets/boxes/conatainers with it

So it might be that if you have gun that uses that round, it might cause issues

[pliant cypress]

I don't think any of my guns are running that so I'm fine I didnt even know that ammo existed

[restive sinew]

Hi everyone, I'm updating a mod for B42, and I need to know when a player has dealt damage to another player.

Old events like OnPlayerHitPVP / OnWeaponHitCharacter seem to be no longer used. Is there a new event or API method in B42 to get the attacking player's object when a player takes damage?

[willow tulip]

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidLuaDocs/md_Events.html

suggests (Client) OnWeaponHitCharacter: Triggered when a non-zombie character is hit by an attack from a local player.

PS: Thank you whoever added (Client) and (Server) to the events page!

@restive sinew You might also want the 'hook' WeaponHitCharacter

https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidLuaDocs/md_Hooks.html Gives you attacker, target weapon and damage number

(though likely gets called for zombies and players vs zombies and players)

Do note: Not all events/etc are called on both client and server.

(most only one or the other)

[grizzled fulcrum]

a package manager? isn't that what the steam workshop is for? I doubt there's any benefit to using something like luarocks or whatever when steam workshop has dependency stuff baked in

[shrewd tundra]

Hey this looks amazing. Are you modding the car lights? Is there any chance I can help you with that mod? I have an idea to improve some light sources but I have no idea how to modify them with code

[willow tulip]

yea just was throwing a car light patch into project summer car... kinda already done lol it was just overriding how they are created

Also kinda tempted to make another patch to turn down flashlights though -_-;

[shrewd tundra]

I never found realistic how "flashlight" has more bright than the lights from a car

[willow tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/1473163491941810226/image.png?ex=699535ea&is=6993e46a&hm=04a37b0cfa13f8a7e62cdbf3fe9922e3d55661922b4c932de8d5ddb343ca9625&

is just a weee bit silly.. for a flashlight

[shrewd tundra]

Like the car lights should be better than a normal flashlight and equal to a heavy duty flashlight

[willow tulip]

its like, DAYTIME bright, and even those 'heavy duty' flashlights are like 10W bulbs

[willow tulip]

Headlights in 1993 where 2x 50W bulbs

[shrewd tundra]

Id like to improve the flood lights ilumination distance

[willow tulip]

Heavy duty flashlights where 1x 10W bulbs, I know because I had one as a kid I repurposed to run off a 18v drill battery with a 12v regulator that maxed out at 1.5A at best

[shrewd tundra]

Do you remember that mansion on 28 days later? The one the soldiers were using as safehouse

[willow tulip]

IMO this is what flashlights should look like:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/232196827577974784/1473162889195032688/image.png?ex=6995355a&is=6993e3da&hm=901e27e99aaa46adfde0d6790c7ce1a5d9656462c306a3198ba6612ecbb6c351&

that would have been nice and moody for flashlights

basically just need to swap flashlight and headlight brightness LOL

[willow tulip]

can't say I do

[shrewd tundra]

Do you have any file example on how to modify the illumination from the flashlights?

[willow tulip]

uh, just use doparam or load and change

        LightDistance = 15,
        LightStrength = 1.5,
        TorchCone = true,
        TorchDot = 0.53,

[shrewd tundra]

All right it looks "easy"

[tough oxide]

anything we should know about lua and mods in the new version? my simple one stopped working and cant get a damned error unless i force one.

[shrewd tundra]

Whats your mod about

[willow tulip]

Nothing new iv seen

[shrewd tundra]

You know what would be cool as well, making a motion sensor floodlight

[tough oxide]

its not really anything - took the Simple Stats and updated it for 42.13 cause it wasnt working then went on a tangent doing other things - either way it completely stopped working. i cant even get print statements to drop in the damned console.txt

[willow tulip]

check for compilation errors

ie: search for 'trace' in your console.txt and see if any stack traces exist

[shrewd tundra]

@willow tulip So I found the flood lights on the game files but im not able to find the lighting values

    {
        DisplayCategory = Furniture,
        ItemType = base:moveable,
        Icon = default,
        Weight = 0.5,
        WorldObjectSprite = lighting_outdoor_01_49,
    }```

I wonder if its possible to modify those values since this is not an item but a tile or "moveable object"

Here it is! The movable class has lighting classes I can use https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/inventory/types/Moveable.html

Also some methods for modifying the lighting

[willow tulip]

thats the movable item I believe, not the world item.

[willow tulip]

check 'newtiledefinitions.txt'

// lighting_outdoor_01_49
    tile
    {
        xy = 1,6
        BlocksPlacement = 
        CustomName = Lights
        Facing = S
        GroupName = Flood
        HasLightOnSprite = 
        IsMoveAble = 
        LightRadius = 24
        PickUpWeight = 150
        lightB = 200
        lightG = 255
        lightR = 255
        lightswitch = 
    }

[faint pond]

Hi, I'm working on my first mod which is supposed to be a simple retexture for the vertical american flag to a different flag texture but am having issues. I used TileZed to find the sprite in the correct Tiles1x.pack file and exported it as a png, edited it, then put it in a mod folder with the path FlagMod/media/texturepacks/Tiles1x/Tiles1x32. I'm not even sure that that's the correct way to do it but that's what I understood from online. Unfortunately after enabling the mod and testing it the model has not changed in game and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any help is appreciated and I apologize if the way I described it is unhelpful I'm new to this

[tough oxide]

whats a good event for when a player loads into the game fully? OnGameStart doesnt seem to be firing for me

or something else is going wrong

[paper ibex]

use OnTick.Add OnTick.Remove when you didnt know what is the right one to pick

[tough oxide]

I’m just having a weird issue where my mod is loaded within the main menu Lua Debugger but not in the game

[paper ibex]

normally OnGameBoot for server. OnGameStart for client

[tough oxide]

Also - note for others - in the Lua Debugger change Lua to noise if you have debug prints

Thanks eScape

That’s certainly going to come in handy

Is a tick a frame?

[paper ibex]

btw OnTick will not trigger when server have no client joined because of world pause sandbox config

[tough oxide]

Right and no it wouldn’t be a frame

[bronze yoke]

in the generic 'tick' sense yes

some systems have their own tickrates that are separate from that

'tick' ticks are just frames, entity ticks are 100/s, iirc climate ticks are one per 10 in-game minutes

[dire oracle]

Hey there, can somebody please tell me, Is there any way to grant 0x food and water consumation need by applying clothes?
Or constant food/water regeneration, idk

[paper ibex]

better not call /frame/ because we have OnRenderTick for game render , confuse

[bronze yoke]

they're the same tickrate so it doesn't matter

render frames and game ticks are the same thing in pz

[paper ibex]

is that from same thread or diff? i tot two different thread

[tough oxide]

yeah, thats what i was thinking too eScape

[bronze yoke]

rendering is in a separate thread but it's still synchronised to the main tick rate

[tough oxide]

right, which is why naughty mods doing too much kills frames - right?

[bronze yoke]

basically at the start of every tick the game tells the render thread to render one frame, and the game thread to simulate one tick, and the tick is done when both are finished

[tough oxide]

at risk of being a know-it-all you can make things italic by surrounding it with *

[paper ibex]

Like when fast-forwarding in-game, right? I think more about server ticks and client render ticks. But yeah, the game client should be like that; something can cause heavy CPU spikes from both foreground and background tasks. X_X

[paper ibex]

Sorry, sometimes i have communication problems in English just by typing short words. : )

[tough oxide]

No apology needed - the other discord I frequent is a lot of ESL people

“English second language”

[pulsar stag]

is TreeDamage a multiplier of the weapons damage applied to trees, or is it a flat number applied to trees?

[cinder storm]

alright im trying to update my mod but even with all mods disabled whenever i even select a mod the game crashes with zero exception in the console

[shrewd tundra]

Same happens here. Game has been crashing all day on MP. This would be the 10th time it crashes

Sometimes it goes black, sometimes the game just closes and boom straight into desktop

[cinder storm]

im gonna try verifying the integrity of the game files

ill see what modding changes ill need to make based on stuff i find around and my own findings

[willow tulip]

And timed action ticks are 30/s IIRC (the maxtime thingy)

[bronze yoke]

i think they're 48/s

[willow tulip]

Hmmm, Might be right I recall there being some weird stuff with 48 and the time system

[willow tulip]

Physics runs at 100/s too

(even if server somehow lags, it will tick away for lost time)

another cursed concept in ticks: Not all ticks always occur.

Or in lockstep with other ticks -_-

[modern mulch]

Hey i was wondering what do y'all use to mod ? I'm used to intelij idea for minecraft but what about pz?

[mellow frigate]

VI

[rain cloak]

hello there ! if you wish to help me please ping me or send a DM ! i'm willing to make my first mod to experience the whole thing, more over willing to make a vehicule that will suit me ! i went through a lot of mods and didn't find the type of heavy duty vehicle i'm looking for, but i absolutely know nothing about how to make it, can anyone help me please ?

[shrewd tundra]

Id suggest you to check the files from other vehicle mods to help you understand how they were made

I was checking the files of the M998 HWMVV from KI5 and I was surprised by how many details this game has when creating a vehicle

[rain cloak]

i was thinking the same about the same modder, i'm effraid thoses files may be a little thick for me to navigate thorugh them, does it need to be an experienced LUA coder ?

to read them and to make a mod

thank you for your help though !

[manic swift]

Ay anybody know what the item “Base.” Of an empty bottle of cleaning liquid is?

[rain cloak]

have you checked the list of items ?

[manic swift]

Yes

Nothing specifies empty

[bronze yoke]

an empty bottle isn't a different item

[rain cloak]

found this: Base.CleaningLiquid2
but doesn't seems empty, is there any other info input that specifies empty or not ? are you supposed to use/find an empty one for your mod ?

[manic swift]

Im making a mod to allow you to make cleaning liquid, I want an empty cleaning liquid bottle as part of a crafting recipe

[rain cloak]

maybe use any empty bottle ? like the fuel works with "any" empty plastic bottle besides jerrycans ?

[manic swift]

Well I dont want to be converting anybodies plastic bottle into a different kind

I suppose i can put a warning in the mod description

[rain cloak]

i think i spotted some items when being emptied changes back to some other random plastic bottle, for exemples when you pour cleaning liquid into random plastic bottles taking the shape of the proper cleaning liquid bottle, then changes back to some soda plastioc bottle, maybe i'm not helping, i'm sorry

[rain cloak]

i was thinking of a making a mod to craft soap using 3 items, charcoal and any fire consummable (to make ashes rich in sodium or even using the sodium hydroxide) and fat either from vegetal oil or animal fat

[manic swift]

Im just making cleaning liquid

[manic swift]

Soap bar mods all yours

[rain cloak]

is there already some ?

[manic swift]

Uhhhhhh maybe?

[rain cloak]

oh you're suggesting me to make it ? i don't know how to make a mod, i'm trying to though..

[manic swift]

Ive only made one previous mod so like

I am not much help here

[rain cloak]

you do ! at least you know where to begin

how to input a crafting recipe and combine items

[manic swift]

Kinda ish

I went to test this mod and it blew up zomboid so

May not be the best inspiration here

[rain cloak]

you've crafted napalm instead of cleaning liquid 🤣

[manic swift]

Well it didn’t even let me see

“Sorry, an unexpected error occurred”

[rain cloak]

you burned you pc ?

[manic swift]

Just refuses to open zomboid

[rain cloak]

have you checked files ?

[manic swift]

Im going to le console

[stiff vessel]

Is it just me, or does overriding basegame outfits in clothing.xml no longer work in B42.14?

If you add the outfit with a different name and different GUID it still shows up

But if you try to add the same name/GUID as a basegame outfit (i.e. to make a new item spawn on a basegame outfit) it no longer seems to work

It worked in B42.14

[tough oxide]

I’m not gonna lie I’m about to pitchfork this release but I still have some hours of testing and troubleshooting first but Im soaking my torches

[arctic flicker]

I hope this isn't a super silly question but I can't find much info about it. I have the sandbox options for my mod setup and working, but I want to put them under their own headings rather than just having one big list.
For example, something like the bellow

Headingname
option 1
option 2

Headingname
option 3
option 4

[vast pier]

What would be the best way to go about doing distributions of an item ?
There seems to be multiple files for distributions, but I'm not sure what ones are most up to date

[paper ibex]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Procedural_distributions

[paper ibex]

It actually differs depending on the hardware. A server can run at 100–150 FPS, which means 150 ticks per second. A low-end PC can be locked to 30 FPS (FPS lock).

This is based on my experience and research.

[willow tulip]

Physics runs at 100/s, based on my having to recode the source of WorldSimulation.java

and this:

        int int0 = 0;
        this.localTime = this.localTime + GameTime.instance.getRealworldSecondsSinceLastUpdate();
        if (this.localTime >= 0.01F) {
            int0 = (int)(this.localTime / 0.01F);
            this.localTime -= int0 * 0.01F;
            for (int int1 = 0; int1 < int0; int1++) {
                (do physics things with cars)

...

[latent pagoda]

What is the best way to remove a vanilla recipe and replace it with a modded one? I am trying to to remove it but the other craft recipe shows up still

[arctic flicker]

You would just overwrite it, using the same structure and names as the vanilla lua for it.

[willow tulip]

do you mind just changing its inputs/outputs?

[latent pagoda]

Yes, I am trying to return 5.56 ammo to 50 rounds when open/boxed. But even using the same structure and names seems to just added a second requirement to either open it or craft it

[paper ibex]

you mean its capped at 100/s ?

[willow tulip]

Nope, it does fixed timesteps of 0.01 second to be deterministic(ish)

Bullet.stepSimulation(0.01F, 0, 0.0F);

            this.time = GameTime.getServerTimeMills();
        } else {
            this.time += (long)(10.0F * int0);
        }```

Hmm, I guess that might actually introduce an instability

oh, if over 10 physics frames occur it will drop... the remainder? lol

but yea, it basically will try and run 100 updates per second reguardless of how anything else is going

and will try to catch up even if a lag spike occurs

at least, for car physics

[shrewd tundra]

The best tool you can use is to download an IDE (VSC or any other) and open the folder as a project, then you can use the searching tool from the IDE

[pastel wolf]

Alright so, I've got my item made, textured, and rigged now, whats the most up to date guide for making a clothing mod?

[shrewd tundra]

You can type CTRL + SHIFT + O and search any file by name, or you can click the search icon and search for any item

[pastel wolf]

because I have no earthly idea where to go from here

[shrewd tundra]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Creating_a_clothing_mod

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3444877391

[shrewd tundra]

This guide looks well explained

[pastel wolf]

would be nice if it went over basic mod file structure stuff as well, oh well

[shrewd tundra]

It does!

Hold on theres another well explained guide here..

I would also recommend you seeing other mods structure to get a reference

Check this channel it has the best project zomboid modding tutorial I have ever seen https://www.youtube.com/@SimKDT/videos

[rain cloak]

that's what i stumbled across checking in the pz wiki about modding

[willow tulip]

lol I saw that 🙂

[pastel wolf]

i realized I was wrong

[willow tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-that-gif-14729957

I mean your free to put everything into common if you like to.. live dangerously 😉

But most of us just put the translation keys and media in there.

[vast pier]

Well I know about procedural distributions, but I was more so wondering if that was the best way to go about it or not

[paper ibex]

that is the best way 🙂

by the best way maybe you mean just matching your workflow, so I can use that link as a ref

[pastel wolf]

now for the fun fun joy of me troubleshooting my mod and figuring out what the hell is broken in it as i go along... The first issue, the item exists! it has its icon, but mousing over it causes errors and its tooltip box is completely blank

And it oddly is using a tinted version of the icon despite me specifying it shouldnt be tintable in the clothing.xml

problem two, I didn't have a file guid table, fixed that! lets see if that was an issue

Issue one is definitely the tooltip issue

okay! progress has been made

the tooltip is showing up... but its giving constant errors now and not rendering on my character

[vast pier]

attempted index: list of non-table: null
function: Distributions_ImpRifle.lua -- file: Distributions_ImpRifle.lua line # 40 | MOD: Salty's Modular Weaponry
java.lang.RuntimeException: attempted index: list of non-table: null

-- Drug Lab Guns
table.insert(ProceduralDistributions["list"]["DrugLabGuns"].items, Schematic_PipeRifle);
table.insert(ProceduralDistributions["list"]["DrugLabGuns"].items, 1);```

I see zero reason why this should be returning null?
DrugLabGuns is in the procedural distributions, and I have ```require 'Items/ProceduralDistributions'``` at the top of the file ?

[pastel wolf]

Weirdly it has no encumberance despite me specifying it in the scripts... unless I messed something up of course

I'll come back around in the morning when more folks are around to help me out here!

[bright fog]

Mod structure wiki page

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_structure

[pastel wolf]

yeah I got that one figured out by just studying how workshop mods do it

[bright fog]

I still suggest reading it

There's quirks studying workshop mods won't teach you

[pastel wolf]

Will do!

[worn fable]

I've been attempting to look it up to no avail, but I've been wanting to make a custom model of my own for my character after having a mod of the such while playing with friends
is there any documentation on how I could do that here?