mod_development

[icy night]

I'll test it right now

[queen oasis]

local weapon = getPlayer():getPrimaryHandItem()
if not weapon then return nil end
if not instanceof(weapon, "HandWeapon") then return nil end
if not weapon:isRanged() then return nil end
return weapon

Something like that

self.scriptPart.container.conditionAffectsCapacity

I'm using reflection in Starlit, and it does great until I get to conditionAffectsCapacity and it yells at me

[silent zealot]

This was how I set up compiling with Java 1.7: a simple powershell script. (a batch file would work fine too)

$JAVAC="C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-17\bin\javac"
$DEP="D:\pz\42.6\output\dependencies"
$CLASSPATH="C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid"
$WORKDIR="C:\Users\myusername\Zomboid\Workshop\Nep High Beams 2\Contents\mods\Nep High Beams 2\42\Java"

echo +-------------------------------------------+
pushd $WORKDIR
& $JAVAC -cp $DEP -classpath $CLASSPATH VehiclePart.java -Xlint:none
copy .\VehiclePart.class C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\zombie\vehicles\
popd
echo +-------------------------------------------+

Easier than messing with the PATH to get the java version I wanted.

Then I made a task in Visual Studio Code to run that, and I just hit F9 to compile and install VehiclePart.java

I just have the one java file in a folder in my mod, you can get fancy and include the whole decompiled source tree as a project and have the IDE do all the cool IDE stuff but for me it's enough to have basic syntax checking on the .java file

[icy night]

Worked

If bomb item scripts list ExplosionPower = 70 then can I use this in a script to get that number: getExplosionPower()

[queen oasis]

I believe so

[placid quartz]

mod idea: Throwable guns
https://64.media.tumblr.com/24ba5c0ae9b7edc56bbff04d1d41c933/01e5924c471ab1dd-08/s1280x1920/c7a32b9db5e3a063364acb4a2b07ed10527abfb7.gif

definitely not practical, and in 99% of situations it would be completely wasteful, but it'd be hilarious, especially if it triggers by spamming the left click with an empty mag

[topaz tangle]

perfect for all those extra guns you have if you play with gun mods that add alot

[placid quartz]

does the game have a throw animation?

[queen oasis]

all I see is John Wick and now I want to watch the movies again for like the 8th time

[placid quartz]

context: throwing pistol after running out of ammo

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-gun-reload-fast-reload-throw-gun-away-gif-17416824

[lyric rock]

borderlands 2

[topaz tangle]

yes

[placid quartz]

perfect, so then we only need someone to program the ability to throw a pistol then tie that to a trigger like either a hotkey or spamming left click with an empty mag

I imagine a hotkey would be easier but spamming with an empty mag would just be funnier and take advantage of panicking

[queen oasis]

I banged on the keyboard long enough to get it to work. Capacity is correct on the Vehicle Mecahnics UI now

[topaz tangle]

peak!!

[topaz tangle]

hilarious concept

[silent zealot]

Haveing a get method for script properties is not automated; the java class needs to have a getThing() method. Mostscript properties have some form of getter.

The eway to check is use the javadocs: https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/

Put "explosionpower" in the search and you can see that HandWeapon and IsoTrap both have get and set methods for that.

[queen oasis]

I saw script and assumed they meant code since they mentioned HandWeapon, may have been my bad to assume

[silent zealot]

Have it happen automaticly if you click fire when there are zero bullet left. Teach fire control and ammo tracking in tense situations!

...maybe make it if you click fire twice.

[placid quartz]

I would say the fourth click with an empty mag would trigger it

Cuz it usually happens in movies after clicking a few times, and 4 clicks makes it very clear you're panicking

Any fewer than that and you're likely to accidentally trigger it fairly often, 4 clicks would either be your really trying, or you're really panicking

[silent zealot]

They used "script" twice, probably once for item script and once for lua script. So one of our guesses as to teh real question will be correct! (also, the answers match)

[placid quartz]

Or maybe holding left trigger with an empty mag could trigger it?

That way it'd be more intentional and also wouldn't need a separate hotkey and would help to avoid accidental trigger

Maybe 2 seconds of holding left click with empty mag?

1 second may help avoid delay tho

[topaz tangle]

accidental trigger makes it funnier

[queen oasis]

I did a mod last year on the family server to tease my wife a little. it was auto drink all the booze when near it and also when drunk, you just keep falling over until you die. she wasn't very amused though.

[silent zealot]

My "stupid ideas for mods" list includes Autodrunk - like autodrink, but for alcohol and you keep drining to keep your drunkeness at a level chosen in mod options.

[queen oasis]

that's my life goal

"mod my life"

[craggy nacelle]

Instead of an empty mag maybe do it when the gun jams? ^^ Would remind me of some comedic movie scenes where the gun doesnt work and the person throws the gun. ^^

[silent zealot]

Interesting idea, but I'm not sure how much demand there is for a mod that causes the tired moodle to never go away.

[queen oasis]

I can deal with a tired moodle. It's the hangover moodle I don't like

[topaz tangle]

i love modeling super simple vehicles

[queen oasis]

am I using this wrong? self is a VehiclePart here. I get tried to call nil. and I did verify that container:getMaxCapacity() and self:getCondition() do return a number

local container = self:getInventoryItem()
return self:getNumberByCondition(container:getMaxCapacity(), self:getCondition(), 5.0)

public static float getNumberByCondition(float number, float cond, float min) {
    cond += 20.0F * (100.0F - cond) / 100.0F;
    float _float = cond / 100.0F;
    return Math.round(Math.max(min, number * _float) * 100.0F) / 100.0F;
}

[craggy nacelle]

what is null tough? the container? the getmaxcapacity or the getconditon. and do they all give you a float value back?

[queen oasis]

container:getMaxCapacity() and self:getCondition() return a number so I'm guessing it's getNumberByCondition()

[distant inlet]

have you tried adding prints to pinpoint the nil

[silent zealot]

it has to return a number if it gets called

[queen oasis]

I did try tonumber but no luck

[distant inlet]

in base game I see Math.round but not Math.max - only math.max (lower)

[craggy nacelle]

i dont know about java, but if number is nil * _float it might make problems? but h says container:getmaxcapacity gives a float, so thats not it i think?

[silent zealot]

Is that function somthing to do with capacity reducing with condition?

[distant inlet]

ah wtf didnt notice this was java lol

[queen oasis]

it is, trying to keep the vaniller lower condition

[silent zealot]

If you're doing code based mods you'll end up with a decompiled copy of the game to reference... it's the only way to fogure out how a lot of stuff actually works.

[queen oasis]

yea, I almost always have it open

[queen oasis]

lua has a math.max also

if I return just a number, it works.

[fiery pecan]

so uhhh, I've pinpointed a possible source for my distributions issue:
forceForZones - This isn't working properly on my end. Somehow it's not finding any zones. Vanilla or modded.

Sorry to just barge in again...

[silent zealot]

Zones seem weird right now

they can overlap, and the Trapping code means in overlapping zones you get a chance for each zone.

[fiery pecan]

mmmm

but I'm trying to use a custom zone of type "LootZone".

[craggy nacelle]

so registerzone doesnt work in .42? or did you try a nother aproach?

[distant inlet]

I haven't tried hitting static methods from Lua yet @queen oasis , but maybe try "." instead of ":" since static isn't bound to any instance

[fiery pecan]

so, registerzone appears to work fine. Though it seems nothing can read these zones, OR the vanilla zones take priority?
Something along those lines.

[distant inlet]

that's the only sus thing I can think of

[fiery pecan]

basically, the zone gets put into the world just fine.
BUT...
Say I want to add a zone at a spot that overlaps another zone. My zone gets ignored.

[craggy nacelle]

i guess you tryed getZones(x+1,y+1,z) for the place you registered a zone and it gave a null pointer? (just asking to confirm)

[queen oasis]

Good idea but reflection. it'll just call the function the same way

I just noticed cond += 20.0F * (100.0F - cond) / 100.0F; wonder if that's it

[fiery pecan]

I'll try that rq.

[frank elbow]

It should work if you call it as VehiclePart.getNumberByCondition

[queen oasis]

I tried after my reflection comment, and it doesn't work.

scrolling through the log, it looks like it

might just throw it in to closure

[fiery pecan]

says it's there.

[queen oasis]

behold. I still don't know why I get nil from getNumberByCondition

local function sickOfThis(number, cond, min)
    cond = cond + 20 * (100 - cond) / 100
    local norm = cond / 100
    return math.max(min, (number * norm) * 100 / 100)
end

[distant inlet]

UH. maybe instead of self:the_static_function you need to call [the_class].[the_static_function]

[fiery pecan]

[Zone{name='Police', type='ZombiesType', x=2026, y=5953, w=29, h=35, id=fe104ed8-08f7-4101-8e88-9c36cddc2d93}, Zone{name='PoliceLoot', type='LootZone', x=2034, y=5983, w=1, h=4, id=379bec68-1bd8-4f62-9eac-1c1ca9a3291a}]

[queen oasis]

self is the VehiclePart class in this case

[distant inlet]

isn't self an obj, not the class?

[queen oasis]

I even double checked and everything about it works as expected

return function(self, chr)
  local function sickOfThis(number, cond, min)
      local norm = (cond + 0.2 * (100 - cond)) / 100
      return math.max(min, number * norm)
  end
  if not self:isContainer() then
      return 0
  elseif self:getItemContainer() ~= nil then
      if chr ~= nil then
          return self:getItemContainer():getCapacity()
      else
          return self:getItemContainer():getEffectiveCapacity(chr)
      end
  elseif self:getInventoryItem() ~= nil then
      local container = self:getInventoryItem()
      if container:isConditionAffectsCapacity() then
          return sickOfThis(container:getMaxCapacity(), self:getCondition(), 5)
      else
          return container:getCapacity()
      end
  else
      return self:getItemContainer():getCapacity()
  end
end

not optimized at all. that can wait until I'm more sober

[craggy nacelle]

Ok, that means the zone is actually there. thats a start.
Now id just set up your lootzone in an area where there are no rooms, buildings or zones to interfere and set up a container with the forceforzone command in the distribution to check if that works. In that way you can exclude ohter interference (force for zone for example comes after force room, so if the room is first, game code will take that one (at least in 41, no idea if they reworked the javaitempicker)

[fiery pecan]

well

you you know of any rooms on the map that have containers but no zone?

[topaz tangle]

powel sport wagon

[fiery pecan]

nvm, found one

[queen oasis]

whoop, got a bug in the code where it spawns cars with no tires or gas tank...

[fiery pecan]

oops momento

[fiery pecan]

same issue

crazy part is:
LootZed says the container should be using the replacement loot table

[craggy nacelle]

ah ok, did you use the tool for refill?

[fiery pecan]

I did

lol

[craggy nacelle]

so, loot zone said forceforzone policelocker and when you used refill container it put kitchen stuff in it? O_o

[fiery pecan]

yes

[craggy nacelle]

thats crazy

[distant inlet]

i don't see anything wrong. sickofthis is just a quick lua impl of tthe java that doesnt work right? and this lua works?

have you tried VehiclePart.getNumberByCondition(..)?

[craggy nacelle]

ah wait no -> it has a room name in it, and item picker goes first for the room, then for the zoon. so if that container has a forceForRooms="containername" in the distribution table, then that one will be taken first... uh, but i dont think that was the case with Manuel refill? Ok thats a head scratcher...

[distant inlet]

or even just checking if self.getNumberByCondition then print("we good") end

[fiery pecan]

hmmm...

interesting

[distant inlet]

no idea what's wrong though. scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point

[brave bone]

quick question: when do you usually use pcall()?

[fiery pecan]

side note: How do I fix the comically large UI?

[craggy nacelle]

check the armysurplus - locker || in the distribution table, that one was empty in .41. i used it to test my zone stuff and just pushed a table entry with my zone into it.

[fiery pecan]

16:10 monitor

[fiery pecan]

I'll take a look

[queen oasis]

I did and it was nil

[craggy nacelle]

they are in the lv mal in the gun store if you want to look for them in the game

[queen oasis]

but it's all good. lua works and my cars have tires and gas tanks now

[craggy nacelle]

thats kinda important. 😉

[queen oasis]

the eastward progression of test vehicles

[coarse sinew]

you don't, it doesn't work in pz env

[distant inlet]

it seems like that'd mean the java static function isn't avail on the obj ref in lua

[brave bone]

oh lol, time to research again ty 🙂

[fiery pecan]

literally no dice.

oof

[craggy nacelle]

Hm, is it really the forceforzones command then? did you check the distribution table for zone distributions you didnt do youself?

[fiery pecan]

I've tried it with forceforrooms, worked fine

same for the forcefortiles thing

it only seems to break on forceforzones

and if I try to use a vanilla zone instead of a custom one, same issue

[craggy nacelle]

Just checked the decompiled code i have, tough im uncertain which version it is since i got it from git somewhre. XD

first comes forceForItems, then forceForZones, then forceFortiles and then forceForRooms, which isnt exactly as i remembered it to be honestly. So as long as there are no forceForItems it should actually work? O.o

[fiery pecan]

hmmm

I theorize it's an issue of forceForZones isn't finding the zone.

[craggy nacelle]

I coudnt see the container bottom you showed, did it show the zone there?

[fiery pecan]

I dunno

[fiery pecan]

UI's jumbo sized for me

dunno how to fix...

a lot of menus just get cut off like that

[craggy nacelle]

Isnt ther an option in the ui where you can cahnge that? Like font size and stuff?

[fiery pecan]

I mean

font size is at 16x

the lowest option

[uneven stratus]

anybody know any good tutorials to get started with modding?

[craggy nacelle]

there is a video out therer where its explained how to create a nuka cola, sry, donthave the link, but i did quite like it.

[silent zealot]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding

If you have a mod idea, a good start is to look for a similar mod and see how they did it. Might not be the best way to do it, but it works.

And this channel is really good for getting pointers on where t olook for things/some idas on how to approach a mod idea

What sort of mod(s) are you planing on making?

[uneven stratus]

I've got many ideas, all revolve around this huge map project of mine.

[craggy nacelle]

short question, does anyone see an obvious mistake here? Event.OnFillWorldObjectContextMenu.Remove(DER.onCreateWorldContextMenu)

scratch that comment, it was about one going for a nother, not both being in teh same namespace

strange

[uneven stratus]

if you wanna know all abt it feel free to dm me anytime 👍

[fiery pecan]

sorry I took so long

had to fullscreen PZ to even get that

this is one of the containers that are spawning normal stuff and not what lootzed says it should, btw

[craggy nacelle]

freaking weird. there is no 'forceforitem' and since you tried the refill and it still doesnt work, id say something is wrong with the item picker. but id have to see the .42 code to be sure.

[fiery pecan]

oof

[craggy nacelle]

now that i think about it, what happens when you change the loot table manually? so from police to something else and back?

[fiery pecan]

hm?

elaborate?

like, in the vanilla files?

[craggy nacelle]

ah, sry its late, i was thinking about it having multiple tables it couls switch, but thats not the case when you use a force command, my fault.

[fiery pecan]

all gud

I will test and see if it works in the vanilla file though

[granite ginkgo]

I'm testing my van in B41 and I can't enter the vehicle via areas, if I use the radial menu I can but it does not have doors animations, any ideas?

[fiery pecan]

interesting...

editing the vanilla file did nothing

[craggy nacelle]

hmmm, do they get filled from elewhere then? did you do a code serach if there are other distribution lists or code inserts? this is just some weird fuckery...

[fiery pecan]

code search?

what?

[craggy nacelle]

you know, either with an external tool, or just load the whole workspace into your ide

[fiery pecan]

hmmm

well, it appears to be a bug as far as I gather

[craggy nacelle]

lets assume so till proven otherwise since i lack any other ideas XD

[fiery pecan]

lol

[violet laurel]

Hi
Is B42 still support any kind "all/repeatable" recipes?
i.e. wash all, open all etc

[pallid valve]

i need to be able to pile corpses in shopping carts to clear them out faster

that is all

[silent zealot]

that's harder in B42 where corpses don't become items, they use the new dragging code.

Not impossible since I'm pretty sure they are still items, but you'd probably have to make a custom right-click option like "put corpse in cart"

[pallid valve]

just wanted to put that idea out there, spending like 4 days in game just dragging corpses to a pile to burn sucks

[craggy nacelle]

Im currently trying to find a way to stop instant death scnearios for a certain time. Does anyone know if there is a way to handle the rear vulnerability? The sandbox option... isnt an option. At least not for this project. XD

[granite ginkgo]

anyone encountered anything similar?

[thin swan]

At the moment no, not in vanilla. I've been looking at adding that as an option to my Better Building mod. Like saw all planks etc.

[broken kayak]

Is there a timed action to make the player face a certain direction ?
The timed action for dropping item in the world (ISDropWorldItemAction) is used both to drop an item to the ground but is also reused for placing item, except it doesn't make the player face the direction where the item is dropped as it was only for dropping items at the player's feet.
I'd like my player to face the direction where the item is dropping but changing the player's direction is not a timed action, I didn't find any action that would help me in this regard and I am contemplating making my own FaceDirectionAction right now.

[fiery pecan]

Ok. Status update:
I found a workaround for 'forceForZones' being broken.
Since 'forceForRooms' still works, I had the bright idea to use lua to change the room name of the room the container's in.

And it worked!!!

now I just need to figure out if I can make it check for both rooms AND tile-types...

nvm

derped out about the checking for both thing

[icy night]

That was very helpful ty. getExplosionPower does exist

[tardy condor]

who has a tutorial for splitting files because when I do it correctly it doesn't work even with require

[granite ginkgo]

Does this still work? Pressing enter closes the terminal

https://github.com/TechnologicNick/SteamChangePreview

[silent zealot]

You mean a lua file?

Do you have localvariables of functions, as in "only for use within this file"?

[granite ginkgo]

testing time

[broken kayak]

It does

[granite ginkgo]

It was an issue with the file name and the terminal would crash

[tardy condor]

because I have 4000 lines

yes i have localvariables

NR_AchievementsList.getAchievementsBySubcategory = function(categoryId, subcategoryId)
    local subcategoryAchievements = {} 
    
    for id, data in pairs(NR_AchievementsList.achievements) do
        if data.category == categoryId and data.subcategory == subcategoryId and data.subsubcategory == nil then
            subcategoryAchievements[id] = data
        end
    end
    
    return subcategoryAchievements
end

count, subcategoryAchievements, subsubcategoryAchievements and more more ^^'

[small osprey]

TIL setGameSpeed(0.51) pauses the game same as setGameSpeed(0) 😉

[gilded crescent]

don't click that, <@&671452400221159444>

[slow marten]

is there a way to get player viewcone and hearing radius with lua? i cant seem to find it in IsoPlayer

[thin swan]

Heyoo! Anyone good with sounds? Been trying to make it so my skateboard sound plays while riding, but trying this doesn't start playing any sound:

        emitter:playSound('SkateboardRolling')
        addSound(pzPlayer, pzPlayer:getX(), pzPlayer:getY(), pzPlayer:getZ(), 7, 7)```

If I do this it works though, so the sound is correctly set up in the script it seems:
```getSoundManager():PlaySound("SkateboardRolling", false, 0.5);```

[tardy condor]

NR_AchievementsEvents.lua, This file is responsible for managing events like zombieKillCount,Events.OnZombieDead.Add, Events.LevelPerk.Add, etc.
NR_AchievementsList.lua, This file defines the complete list of successes available in the mod
NR_AchievementsUI.lua, This file manages the user interface

I need to split this file NR_AchievementsList.lua because there are too many lines and I'm lost

[thin swan]

Well don't I feel stupid lol, turns out having god mode enabled while in debug mode stops the sound emitter from playing

[slow marten]

i think i found it.
vision cone is in:
https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/iso/LightingJNI.html#calculateVisionCone(zombie.characters.IsoGameCharacter)

hearing radius is in:
https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/characters/IsoGameCharacter.html#getSeeNearbyCharacterDistance()

[tranquil kindle]

I remember reporting "bug" for someone about lack of sounds of their vehicle which was custom. It took me few hours to figure out that I've been Pressing N which in debug mode also triggers godmode/invisibility, and for some reason it muted vehicle too.

[thin swan]

Haha yeah I realized that as well 😅 I tried shooting a gun and it was muted as well so I thought my mod full on broke sounds. Started a new save with no mods and it was still doing it. Then I tried pressing N and boom, all good lol

[storm trench]

What does everyone think the most seamless way to implement different cart colors would be? I am not sure I want to redo the entire mod to use them, but I also kinda feel like having seperate versions for a cart color is kinda lame.

[tranquil kindle]

Are those cart "clothing items" or more like hand held items?

[storm trench]

"Hand held".

[tranquil kindle]

IIRC you have it using umbrellas animation thing to hold hands

In front and its attached to hand

As far as i know, there is no way to have diffrent textures for weapon/handheld items, unless they're clothing item, that use XML files

You could technicly make it "clothing item" like a garbage bag that you hold in hands

Which is simply parented to prop1 bone and add all texture variants in XML file, which doesnt seem hard, however i'm not sure how your mod works exacly

[thin swan]

Doing it that way, do you know if it's possible to control the spawn rates of the different textures? To make some more rare than others, or will it just assign it at random?

[storm trench]

I would also like to know that as well. I'll be investigating if I can have it apply when a cart/trolley spawns, tho. I guess we'll see what happens.

I want to eventually have "special" variants with "special" abilities at some point when the mod fork is "finished".

But obviously I wouldn't want them spawning at the same consistency as the others lolll.

[winter bolt]

no you have to make multiple clothing items to do that

[thin swan]

Ah okay, thanks for confirming 🙏

[storm trench]

Lovely.

[slim swan]

But Vehicle parts seem to be able to switch between different textures using the same model like the police lights

[tranquil kindle]

Thing is, that cart is not a vehicle

[winter bolt]

i think you could actually use the container fill event to grab any of your items that spawn and then manually set which texture it uses but thats the only way

[tranquil kindle]

Its an item

[thin swan]

That sounds like a smart workaround, but I feel the extra overhead isn't worth it over making additional items in my case

[slim swan]

is it possible to let items use the same method as vehicle parts? This issue has been bothering me for a long time.

[tranquil kindle]

For texture changing?

[slim swan]

Yep,only change the texture not change the model

Cas it would blink when u change the model

[tranquil kindle]

I'm not sure what you mean by vehicle part method to be fair.

[slim swan]

Like the electric weapon I made before,I trying to change the texture on weapon hit,to get a fake light effect

[storm trench]

I have models_trolley.txt and items_trolley.txt. I think I should be able to do what I am thinking, because the mod uses models_trolley.txt for the textures/meshses only and items_trolley.txt for all mod functions involving the carts & trolleys. So, isn't it as simple as defining 2 new models with seperate colors and having the XML point to the functional container the mod actually uses for all functions? I hope that makes sense.

[tranquil kindle]

It is, though making it clothing with XML would require you to put a a single line with new texture and game would do it automaticly, where for new model definition with texture you'd need to make EITHER multiple trolley items and each have chance to spawn OR some way with code to assign random model from list of models on its spawn.

At least thats my guess from My understanding how this works, More advanced modders with their lua knowledge could probably come up with better idea.

I assume you prefer to have a single trolley as an item (or more but not to many), but multiple diffrent models/textures for it.

[storm trench]

Yup, exactly. And no worries, I appreciate the insight. I tend to bounce ideas off others just to make sure I'm not wasting my time on an insane adventure, cuz I 100% will if I don't. Lmao.

[broken kayak]

Sorry for poping in D=
I got : player facing where the object is being placed, right click to cancel the 3d thingy and going back to the UI will put the player back to the container they were dragging from !

[thin swan]

Hell yeah dude, that's awesome! This will definitely be an essential mod for me

[broken kayak]

I'll try my hand at controller support before releasing

and also inventory tetris support

[bronze yoke]

in build 42 items can have multiple models

vanilla examples are the crowbar, hammer, etc

[thin swan]

Let me know if you get stuck on anything, I've had to fight the controller system a bit when making Better Building

[storm trench]

Omfggg I am absolutely in love with all you been doing lately. Just...

[queen oasis]

ComboItem's for everyone

at least I know why it doesn't work the way I thought it would

[icy night]

How do print messages work? Do they show uo in the console.txt or while in Debug?

[bronze yoke]

both

[tranquil kindle]

They can?

Nice

[thin swan]

Ooooh, how does it determine which model should spawn?

[bronze yoke]

i think it's just random

[thin swan]

Ah okay, makes sense

[fallen knot]

this won't work 100% of the times, but the only solution would be adding a variable that adds 1 per day passed and autosaves every time it hits 7

the problem with that is that you'd need to play 1 week in on go

actually this wont work in any way possible i need a better solution lol

i could do something with %

(it'd still fail every time a new month hits)

oh i've got an idea

this

[bronze yoke]

you can use GameTime.instance.getWorldAgeDaysSinceBegin() % 7 == 0

[fallen knot]

oh true, that's definitely better

doesn't seem to exist 🤔

let me do a search

nope

probably's got a different name, lemme check

it's probably this

[bronze yoke]

if you're in b41 it might not have existed yet

[fallen knot]

yup, I'm in b41

[bronze yoke]

i don't recall seeing it back then

[fallen knot]

i'll try porting this to b42 later

i'll try this out

i think it does not take in account the start day though, that may be problematic

[bronze yoke]

it'll only affect people who start in 'x months into the apocalypse' scenarios

[fallen knot]

I could also just make my own method maybe

[fallen knot]

yeah, that's likely

[fallen knot]

OR i could just steal the method from B42 lol

let me try decompiling b42

i have it in a separate folder after all

here

done lol, thanks for letting me know about this method

this should do it, just gotta test it

could make it more precise but this is okay honestly

now i need to do one last thing

sync this up with the options menu

[small osprey]

I think I am running into the symlink issue as well. I link my mods from my git projects folder into the ~/Zomboid/Mods/ folder. Happens for me with a sound-script. Whats the next step gals @main pasture ? Anybody needs to file a bug report or that has taken place already?
p.s. I run NixOS btw 😏

[main pasture]

It's already reported at the mod reports thread

I think you just have to figure a way without symlinks before it's fixed. My "solution" was to switch the folders. The one in mods is the "real" and the one in git folder is the linked

[small osprey]

Not a biggy. All good. I run inotifywait and rsync it

[queen oasis]

ok, stupid question. Could I pull a line out of radio text to use as tool tip text? I am trying to avoid making a translation file 🙂
Or maybe there's something similar to "You can't do that" or "option not available" already that I missed?

[queen oasis]

yea, it was a stupid question. Just getText(RD_guid)

getText("RD_6fee6c8a-0cbd-4d13-bc9d-5ec5828e746f")

[red tiger]

I spent the past two weeks rewriting and improving my anti-cheat framework so a lot of kids / cheaters are about to get salty.

https://tenor.com/view/steve-coffee-happy-morning-birthday-gif-83457923686645041

[topaz tangle]

doing good work

[icy night]

How can I identify a bomb in a players hand? Is it recognized under getWeapon?

[brave bone]

where can i read about adding mod option in build 42.

[bronze yoke]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Mod_Options

[brave bone]

oh thank you ❤️

[orchid quiver]

Thank you for your suggestion!

[fallen knot]

You're welcome!

[fallen knot]

got it working :)

mod is almost done

[orchid quiver]

Interesting, thank you for clarifying. For whatever reason it resets, maybe I should send this instruction several times for it to work. 🤔

[thin swan]

You can use player:getPrimaryHandItem() and player:getSecondaryHandItem() to get items of any type that are held in either hand

[icy night]

thanks

[fallen knot]

so far everything is working. right now i'm just speeding up the game to test the Per year option (still dont know who'd like that honestly lol)

but per day, per week and per month work

it's not 100% exact but it's still around that time

plus it might not be exact due to me using the debug fast forward

thankfully enough i managed to make it so you can change everything inside of the UI instead of providing multiple java files like other mods do

I'm not criticizing anyone in particular, achieving this was pretty hard and it's nothing more of a nitpick from my part

[thin swan]

That's amazing work, well done! 👏

[fallen knot]

Thank you!! I did my best but I also got many help that was crucial (including outside of this server, to be able to read the options .ini file)

[thin swan]

Hey that's what communities are for! We're all here to learn and help each other 🙌

[fallen knot]

damn this is getting harder to test out lol, the game's lagging a lot after 6 months

i'll restart it

[silent zealot]

Did you work out how to have java access the mod options, or did you have lua "push" the option to the java file?

[fallen knot]

the first one

basically, i located mod_options.ini and then used a method i found online to read it and transform it into a map string

[heavy jewel]

anyone knows a warp zombies function? i an creating a mod.

[silent zealot]

To move a zombie to a different location?

[heavy jewel]

yeah!!

i'm vibe codding, i don't know to mutch on this api

[silent zealot]

See if IsoZombie (or one of teh parent classes) has an appropriate method. https://demiurgequantified.github.io/ProjectZomboidJavaDocs/zombie/characters/IsoZombie.html

[heavy jewel]

This is in Java, how can I see the Lua version?

[bronze yoke]

this is exposed to lua

[heavy jewel]

I don't understand how it works 100%, first time doing mod

I just need a function to warp zombies to coord

[fallen knot]

hmm, hit the year and it didnt work

but it could be because i didnt get to stop the super fast forward when it happened

i just did the same as month but instead of % 30, % 365

🤷‍♂️

I'll leave it in as experimental, lol

If I'm not wrong, the "common" folder gets loaded for both B41 and B42, right?

I'm already setting up my mod for the workshop lol

[thin swan]

I don't think so no, some files might load, but if I remember correctly the common folder is part of a new folder structure for b42

[fallen knot]

I see, thanks

[thin swan]

But I haven't made any mods for B41, so I might be off, just remember reading it somewhere

I have no idea what it means, but I love that player:hasAwkwardHands() is a thing

[fallen knot]

maybe it's the clumsy thing + panic

if you drop your item when you stumble

sometimes you do, sometimes you don't

i'm sure it has more chances with those two factors

i might just be rambling though lol

[gilded crescent]

@left plank not sure why this didn't get deleted but it really should

no one click that link either

Thank youuu

[left plank]

thank you

[gilded crescent]

You're very welcome

[fallen knot]

Not 100% related to modding but; I'm getting some footage for my mode and I noticed my cursor's still visible

is there anyway to hide it?

never mind that

Does anybody know how to make a text show up like when you try to open a barricaded door?

you know, the white text that fades away

found it

[open drum]

Dear fellow modders

Does anyone know

if I edit an .xml file or 1 player

in a MP game

will it be applied and executed properly?

For example, I have made a steam pack item

which OnEat, it edits 2HDefault.XML file

<m_SpeedScale> Combat Speed </m_SpeedScale>

into 2.0

it executes correctly in Single Play (build 42)

but not sure if it would work well in MP

anyone has tried this in Build 41

and know if it works well?

[silent zealot]

If you're making a B42 mod I wouldn't worry about multiplayer, it's not happening soon and will likely require a lot of mods to redo things when it does happen.

[open drum]

yea i agree

[silent zealot]

And if your mod can't work in MP, you just put "Singleplayer only" in the description.

[open drum]

but just wanted to know if it's a possible thing

wether if it's a possible concept

[silent zealot]

If the mod is on the server and clients then you can have the client(s) make the change

There's a messaging system for client <-> server communications.

So client adds to the ClinetMassageRecieved Event, and does a if command == "MyModDoThing" then <do thing> end type of function

[open drum]

yea but my worry is that... server file (no change), and player file (changed) because of consumtion of the item

and no one else in the server execept that player is changed

which is what im aiming to do

[silent zealot]

The client can message server so it makes the same change.

[open drum]

yea but if server file is changed

[ancient grail]

dont edit/overwrite
you have to clone the file and add a variable set so that the condition applies

you also have to sync it if its not synced

[open drum]

won't it b applied to all players?

[silent zealot]

Ah, that may be an issue - possible desync if one player only is getting modified animations.

[ancient grail]

if lua checksum is off then it only applies to the player

[silent zealot]

Just put "single player only" in the description. 😛

[open drum]

yea checksum should b off... that's true

haha but i wanted to make it MP T----T

sad.. 😦

[fallen knot]

Mod's 100% done for B41!

Tomorrow I'm testing B42, getting footage done, and setting up the workshop page!

It was fun to work on this y'all, thanks widely for the help! I'll be sure to add a link to the server on my mod's page :)

[open drum]

what's the mod about?

[fallen knot]

Auto-saving!

[open drum]

ah. xD

[fallen knot]

basically it makes a backup of your savefile every day

or, every week, month and even year if you want so

[ancient grail]

use -nosteam as startup param
this will allow you to load multiple instance of the game so one would host another would join

this is how we test MP without needing another person

[red tiger]

Been documenting a finished reworked anti-cheat mod.

[fallen knot]

doesn't the game have anticheat by its own 🤔

[red tiger]

Was never good enough and for a time wasn't even there.

[open drum]

like it's for turning on multiple windows of game right?

[fallen knot]

I see, good job then

I don't play MP but cheaters must be bothersome

may your mod work the best

[red tiger]

I run two anti-cheats: one server-side checking network traffic and one client-side checking values and looking for injected cheat functions.

[fallen knot]

nice

[red tiger]

anti-cheats on clients are vulnerable to various bypass techniques deployed by some cheats so I wrote a very resilient framework for any server to craft their own anti-cheat on-top of mine.

[ancient grail]

yes

[open drum]

is there a way

for a person to turn on

build 41, and 42 at the same time?

[silent zealot]

Zomboid would need so much work to have solid anti-cheat. Far too much is done by the client, a lot in lua which is easy to mod locally but the java isn't exactly secure.

[open drum]

or do i have to downgrade myself 😦

[fallen knot]

ohhh

yeah frameworks are pretty cool

it basically allows stuff to get constantly upgraded without the need of the main creator

[red tiger]

This is true. I'm also a Java modder. I pen-test the game and have for almost a decade. My framework takes advantage of string-based served code by injecting, minifying, and distributing it over simple encryption.

I inject generated strings with varying lengths for commands and handshake encryption keys.

[fallen knot]

is your mod a java one?

[red tiger]

It's going to be a wild ride with these hacker guys.

[bronze yoke]

build 42 has moved a lot of security critical systems to the server

[tacit pebble]

copy your ProjectZomboid and paste it like ProjectZomboid_B41
Also you have to change cache folder's directory too to avoid any unexpected issue.

[fallen knot]

i'd guess so

[red tiger]

Server yes. Client no / yes.

Server-side on client needs an API for kicking players. Client-side no.

[fallen knot]

Makes sense, that's for the best

[open drum]

ew... sound very tedious task... XD thank for info

[fallen knot]

i witnessed myself how awful it is to decompile java and then pray to recompile it

[red tiger]

https://github.com/asledgehammer/EtherHammerX

The server and client code for the engine are dynamically injected with generated values to keep things unique per player and server sessions, avoiding static code detection.

=)

If the client throws away the mod loading the code the server sees no response and kicks them.

[silent zealot]

I found it easy, but it depends on if the java file you are working on decompiles in a way the recompiles correctly. VehiclePart does.

[red tiger]

If you know the decompiler / compiler artifacts and how to fix them, it becomes easy to do.

I've cleaned files for many people over the years.

[fallen knot]

when i tried making my mod i wanted to modify like 3 java files but none of 'em worked, one didnt even have errors but compiler threw a Version error or whatever

miraculously, though, exactly the one file i needed to make all of my mod was able to get compiled

[silent zealot]

I used ZomboidDecompiler, and so far I've only tried that one file

[fallen knot]

but i had to use another decompiler

didnt work with ZomboidDecompiler

but it did work with ZomboidDecompiler's Zombie.java file and Dependendencies folder

it's a weird frankestein of two different decompilers

but it worked

🙇‍♂️

[silent zealot]

Of course the weird frankestein works, Zomboid is coded in frankestein.

[open drum]

so if they both have same function but different values, they won't cause any problem?

[fallen knot]

lol, never said better

[red tiger]

Yes but that is specifically the audited client-key fragment.

[fallen knot]

i really hope the file i modified has absolutely no changes in b42

itd save my time a lot

[open drum]

kinda having trouble in fully understanding what audited client-key fragment really mean atm.

[red tiger]

Keys are a union of compiled and ran functions for a server key-fragment and a client key-fragment, making a key for the player-session, recalculated every heartbeat.

[fallen knot]

key key key key

[red tiger]

So a string for server and client.

[open drum]

english??

ah

[fallen knot]

haha

[red tiger]

Yup. It's a type of authentication for my code where the client and server agree on a key to use for each period of time.

[open drum]

ty for toning down to ordinary newb language..

[red tiger]

All good. I'm so deep in this that I can't honestly talk like a normal person about it.

[fallen knot]

Hey, been there

[red tiger]

The code is documented though.

[fallen knot]

being a programmer and having big, long, complex code that works perfectly feels like heaven

you just get all nerdy about it

[red tiger]

I made it so people can write custom modules and modify the key-generation for their server without uploading a new workshop mod.

[fallen knot]

that's pretty rad

[red tiger]

The anti-cheat itself is hosted on the server's filesystem and is fetched and sent to clients when logging in.

[open drum]

will that work in build 42 as well?

[red tiger]

Should be no problem.

[fallen knot]

honestly, so many cool mods have been coming out for b42-only

[open drum]

gotcha

[fallen knot]

as a hardcore b41 it hurts me on the heart, thats why i aim to port stuff to b41 when possible, or b42 if it's the other way around

eventually i'll move on to b42 tho, i really love it, it's just that ive got some b41 mods i cant live without

haha

[open drum]

after playing build 42 for a day or two... i just coulnd't go back to build 41...

i can't leave my pigs alone no more... 😦

[silent zealot]

Make B42 versions of them!

[fallen knot]

oh i tried, but some of 'em made my head spin and i couldnt find a way to port at all

that was months ago when there was no b42 documentation at all, though

now that there is, i might just retry...

definitely not this month though LOL

after the headache that was getting java zomboid to work, i will take a few weeks just chillin

gotta try out my own mod after all

[silent zealot]

Very important to test your mods.

Night fighting by high-beams.

[red tiger]

@fallen knot Music for when you go too deep in code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL8luMcJBTo

[silent zealot]

I installed a 360° mod to help testing and playing with it.. I can't decide if I hate it or not.

[red tiger]

Abandon the flesh.

[fallen knot]

it let you see everything without the fov restriction right?

i like the extra zoom, thats about it

being able to zoom in closer is nice to save fps lol

[silent zealot]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my untyped scripting languages, they disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of C. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Object Oriented Design. Your kind cling to your LUA, as though it will not decay and fail you.

[red tiger]

Damn. I thought The Sims 1 released in 1997. How are you getting low FPS?

[fallen knot]

true. coding ambiental music

big hordes, many mods

[red tiger]

Can we please pin this?

[fallen knot]

😔

[silent zealot]

I like this for my Omnissiah soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJIDqYZ7qM0

[fallen knot]

upvote

[silent zealot]

And add a list of which sacred incenses to burn to each class on the Javadocs.

[fallen knot]

haha reddit get it

[red tiger]

I'm a type-generator guy.

x)

Wrote Candle, a project that reflects all Java API into Lua typings. Also TypeScript. Now also Python.

[fallen knot]

you monster

[red tiger]

https://youtu.be/RnBcZKx9pWk?list=LL

[red tiger]

https://youtu.be/15CCOHgSfM8?list=LL

[fallen knot]

after te autosave mod i might as well just make a similar one to the only cure

always wanted to cut my leg when it got infected, as rare as that case might be

[red tiger]

Also look up Prometheus Studio on YouTube for 40K-inspired works.

[fallen knot]

endlessly slow movement, torture

[open drum]

lol im added all these into my playlists now XD

[fallen knot]

coding playlist

these are lengthy though, made specially for long-time programming sesions

i think the longest time ive coded in a go might be like 8 hours

so healthy

[red tiger]

https://youtu.be/SwUpMhp-DEc
https://youtu.be/VO_LcRkkyWo
https://youtu.be/9KMd4YiURoA
https://youtu.be/gQEcDRUVr8Y

[fallen knot]

whoa

[red tiger]

I'm ritualistic in the music I select for the types of coding sessions I do.

Been that way for 12 years.

[fallen knot]

cant say that doesnt work

coding with breakcore is fun

[red tiger]

There's a few good stuff there.

[fallen knot]

makes you feel like you're speedrunning

welp, gotta go eat

good night y'all, keep on moddin'

[red tiger]

https://youtu.be/mMLPJFlPYNo

This is one of the mixes I use

[red tiger]

good night.

[fallen knot]

ill make sure to check it out

[fallen knot]

thanks

[silent zealot]

Thansk for music @red tiger . I'm going to put some of that on and then... do some of my actual job. 😦

[red tiger]

CryoChamber is a great label to look at too.

https://youtu.be/OIuX68vnJqs Inekt too

Hopefully this helps out people who need to isolate from the world to get work done.

[topaz tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1037555293141340211/1358629218493403166/71CEBBF8-2617-4D1F-A8DF-7A9B98168A7C.png?ex=67f4898f&is=67f3380f&hm=2da3d6cdf014fbc385c5724820094c75dde86694e4bc3935efe83140ba04af95&

Final progress photo for today, spent a while playing fiveM so I lost like two hours of time

Most of what’s left is a bit more shadowing and the door

[red tiger]

I like mods that tries to stay within the realism of 1993.

=)

[topaz tangle]

Yeah I stay within that pre- 93 rule
Idk if there ever even was a Powell sport wagon in Knox county at the time but it definitely could’ve been!

[silent zealot]

I don't think you need to be too strict, it's enough to have "could have resonably been around in the 1990s"

[red tiger]

Oh yeah I don't mean exactly. I meant believable realism.

Immersion is such a massive make-or-break quality for my play experience.

I might port my client java patch to add support for immersive shaders API.

[topaz tangle]

My personal rule is weather or not it reasonably could’ve been in American during 1993

[silent zealot]

So a mod that adds a Nokia phone you can use as a indestructable shortblunt weapon would be OK, even if those phones were late 1990s.

[silent zealot]

Fun Fact: There were only ten functional AA12 shotguns ever made and they were all in rural Kentucky.

Based on my loot collection.

[topaz tangle]

Quite funny

[silent zealot]

I should make a proper StreetSweeper mod. Fully automatic... with only 12 rounds and a slow one-by-one reload time.

I think that's the only automatic shotgun that has ever existed in any meaningful way in the real world, everything else is a concept weapon that went nowhere except for video games.

And I'm still annoyed that giving a weapon more than 9 projectiles crashes the game due to a buffer overrun in the java, because I still want to make a punt gun mod.

Or a KS-23 four guage shotgun,... those were made in the 1970s so were around in the 1990s, even if no-one outside Russia thought they were a good idea. And Russia only made them to use up faulty barrels meant for aircraft guns.

...I really just want to make something where the player crafts ammunition using a empty tin can, gunpowder and scrap metal. 😂

[silent zealot]

Adding AttachmentType = Rifle does let you wear a skateboard on your back...

[slow marten]

is there an Event.OnPlayerSpotZombie? or when any character comes into view of the player? i want to modify the zombies that are only in view of the player.

Events.OnTick and getting the player's spottedList seem to make sense, but that seems pretty inefficient.

[silent zealot]

THATS IT I AM MAKING A MOD TO CAP STRESS FROM ZOMBIES THUMPING ON THINGS!

I walked too close to a building full of zombies and instantly jumped to full panic.

[gilded crescent]

maybe a 20mm AT rifle like the NTW or the Anzio

not quite tin can size but could probably make 2 or 3 rounds out of one tin can if you cut it and wrapped it

[sonic needle]

firing guns stresses veteran characters :/ its crazy

[ancient grail]

reminds me of tom and jerry for some reason

[silent zealot]

Until we get boss zombie something that can clear a street is useful, while doing a lot of damage to several zombies in a line is not

[gilded crescent]

That's true, would be a fun little trophy though

[silent zealot]

I've got a idea for improvised, fixed position trap (world objects) that fires by killing every zombie in a cone in front of it.

Like an improvised cannon, and include remote and timed triggers.

But, too many things to do first lol

[gilded crescent]

that'd be pretty cool

[thin swan]

Hahaha but why? 😄 I already have it attachment type shovel so it can be worn on the back (and I fixed the position and rotation for that)

[silent zealot]

Hmm.. I might need to unsubscribe and resubscribe, I think you've updated the mod and my local copy hasn't.

Like no skateboard attacks.

I only just found a board and kickscooter so I had not tried them previously.

[thin swan]

I've heard that happen to someone else, but I'm not sure why 🤔 is it a common thing for mods not to update properly, or am I doing something wrong?

Oh yeah you should be able to attack, attach it to back, and yesterday I added sound to the skateboard. The folded kick scooter is now a weapon as well so you should be able to equip and swing it

[silent zealot]

no, it's a steam thing.

[ornate basin]

I was surprised that there's nothing in the workshop for having a bigger noise maker that can be triggered multiple times

like, I wanted to clear a road by just making noise

I guess maybe the map isn't being simulated if I'm not there though

or just a repellant in general

instead of a noise maker, which attracts

[ornate basin]

Also

How hard is it to modify zombie appearance / sounds? I feel like there's barely any mods that add new zombie types, the closest I've seen is just one that makes some zombies be able to sprint

Like there's no zombies that are bigger in size (and hp/damage/louder) but slower, or anything like that

[teal olive]

if someone would like to, please i need saab mods and more volvo mods

[hasty wharf]

someone can help me in the mod supp discussion pls?

[karmic cobalt]

Hey guys. I need some help. I want to remove some specific vehicles from spawn in the world. Some of them are vanilla, and others are modded. How should I approach this issue? I was thinking of finding the spawn chance of these vehicles and creating a mod that would overwrite those values with zero.

[thin swan]

Is it just me or is https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding down?

[hasty wharf]

true @thin swan

im not understanding how to put my mod on workshop...it's a manual installing mod and idk how to set the folders 😦

[ornate basin]

the wiki was down a few days ago too, but right now it's up for me

[thin swan]

I haven't done a mod like that, but if you install the mod by replacing files in the ProjectZomboid\zombie folder, try making your folder structure like this (for b42 and b41):
C:\Users\YourUser\Zomboid\Workshop\YourModName\Contents\mods\YourModName

And in the last YourModName folder it should have 4 folders:
41
42
common
media

In your 41 and 42 folders you make a new folder called zombie where you put your files to replace the vanilla ones, and then instruct users to copy/paste this folder into their game install.

common folder can be empty.
If your mod has .lua as well, then put that in YourModName\media\lua for b41 and YourModName\42\media\lua for b42

You need to just also make sure you have a mod.info in your YourModName folder and YourModName\42 folder

[thin swan]

Hmm, the rest of the wiki seems fine, it's just the modding section that's returning 500 http error, so something server side is borked

[ornate basin]

works for me

[thin swan]

Hmm, I guess it could be the CDN server in my location that's messed up then. Where are you located if I may ask?

[ornate basin]

EU

[thin swan]

Well damn, same

[ornate basin]

just wait it out

it'll probably fix itself

[gilded crescent]

it's working for me in canada so yeah it might just be whatever specific server you are connecting to

someone messed up somewhere over there I guess lol

[thin swan]

I think they just fixed it, it's working now 😄

[gilded crescent]

perfect timing lol

[hasty wharf]

nothing to do...always mod.info missing...i put this file everywhere lol

[gilded crescent]

mod.info has to be in the 42 and 41 folder and I believe the folder that has media, common, 42 and 41 in it, mods/yourmod/mod.info

Each version gets it's own mod.info file basically and the main mod folder can also be used for 41

[hasty wharf]

@gilded crescent riesci a darmi una mano in pvt?

[gilded crescent]

Yeah just send me a message, I accepted the request

[pseudo warren]

Hello.. im trying to make a simple mod for zb and need some help. I want to share RVInterior from Base.Van with Zrap (modded car), but cant find any documentation. Any help will be apreciated. Ty in advance

[queen root]

Im working on a mod to remove bullet defence from leather patches and Im unable to add the mod to my game. Anyone have any idea what could be causing this?

[hasty wharf]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459875383 if anyone want to test it 🙂

[tranquil kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/knuckles-gif-26722749

[small osprey]

Some more background on your method? aka "how?"

[hasty wharf]

all explained in the workshop page

Improved memory management:

-Xmx8192m: Increased maximum memory (if your PC has 16GB+ RAM)
-Xms4096m: Added minimum memory to reduce the need for reallocation

Garbage Collector optimizations:

Improved ZGC usage for Windows 10+ versions
Changed fallback to use G1GC with optimized parameters
Added -XX:+UseNUMA for multi-CPU systems
Added -XX:+AlwaysPreTouch to pre-allocate memory at startup

Batch file optimizations:

Automatic detection of system RAM
Automatically scale memory allocation based on available RAM
Detection of number of CPU cores to optimize GC threads

General optimizations:

-XX:+OptimizeStringConcat to improve handling of strings
-XX:+DisableExplicitGC to avoid explicit garbage collector calls

[small osprey]

Interesting. Not a Java pro here. You took some measurements?

[hasty wharf]

im not a pro too 🙂

no lag in the initial screen...loading game and - lags when u ride cars and change cells

NOTE ON MULTI-CPU OPTIMIZATIONS:
Project Zomboid is primarily a single-threaded game, so even with these optimizations, most of the workload remains on a single CPU core. The changes I've made still improve overall performance by optimizing:
• Memory management (multi-threaded garbage collector)
• Memory access on NUMA systems
• Secondary operations like texture loading and data compression
These optimizations cannot fully transform the game into a multi-threaded application, but they maximize efficiency within the limitations of the game engine.

[small osprey]

Yes I've read the workshop page. Personnally I don't have performance issues unless very zoomed out but cool if it helps, then great work ! Others here have much more experience and can give you more qualified feedback.

p.s.: welcome to the community!

[hasty wharf]

thanks 🙂 im trying to help

[craggy nacelle]

Can someone tell me from where the events in java are fired? I wanna know whats going on there, since i try to figure out the damage system. It simply doesnt make sense to me and i suspect a lot of 'damage' or 'damage types' arent send per event. No matter what i do - with the exception of god mode - the character in a crowd of zombies starts out shouting and thats pretty much when they drop dead. 🧐

Thought its maybe panic that kills him, but putting panic and pain to 0 each tick also doesnt help.

[bronze yoke]

if there's three zombies attacking you at once you instantly die

it's extremely rare to actually die of damage

[craggy nacelle]

Wait what? While that is great to know, where can i find the code for that. There has to be a way around that one or god mode woudnt allow you stay in a crowd, rigth? 😦
Well, at least it lets me get a bit closer to my goal, since i should be able to figure out if 3 zombies attack at the same time... also i have no idea how id do that... jet. ^^

[topaz tangle]

This is evil

[craggy nacelle]

yeah, played forever without even knowing that one. XD

[bronze yoke]

you can turn it off, you'd usually get stunlocked instead anyway

but i've never felt combat really needed to be easier 😅

[craggy nacelle]

Hm, i guess i need to look into stun lock too? but knowing where to shut it off would be better, or at least a call for the case it happened?
I do not wish to make it easier. I am trying to make a mod for an emergency recall for an mp server where people dont go to events because they dont wanna die? So i hope i can make some kind of emergency recall that gets them out of doge for these events. Outside of them? Nope! XD

[craggy nacelle]

Especeally pvp events are dead on the server i play, which is a bit of a shame. So i think that mod might be well recived? Well, first i have to get it going, then i can introduce the idea. ^^

Urgh, sorry for tagging you, that wasnt meant to be. 😕

[bronze yoke]

dw!

[rose dew]

does anyone know where you can find weapon stats in the game code?

[thin swan]

You mean like the damage, swing speed, stuff like that?

[rose dew]

yeah

[thin swan]

It's in the item script for the weapon, so you want to go to steamapps\common\ProjectZomboid\media\scripts\items and then open the .txt file for the weapon you want. For example the baseball bat would be in items_weapons_2handed.txt

If you want to find it easier you can open that folder in vscode and then use their search

[rose dew]

is it 2 for short and long weapons

or for every skill

[thin swan]

I believe so yes, the 2handed.txt contains long and short, blunt and blade, but axes are in a separate one

or wait maybe not

[craggy nacelle]

Albion, i think im blind. Where did you find the option to shut off a player object being killed when attacked by 3 or more zombies?

[bronze yoke]

the game calls it 'drag down'

[craggy nacelle]

Oh, that option, i thought it was meant for getting.... well dragged down, so i set it "off", but that doesnt stop my guy from starting to shout and cry and die miserably.

[thin swan]

Actually the weapons_2handed.txt seems to just be blunt, long blades and axes are in their own files

[rose dew]

thanks i found it

[fallen knot]

playtesting my mod for b42; So far, it's working

lol, didn't know they had added fire rubber duckies in it

[fallen knot]

oh nice, hadnt noticed you could set your own seed now

that's cool

[small osprey]

Whatchu workin on 👀✨?

[red tiger]

Finally taking a short break after a ~200 hour mod project. woohoo

Can't wait to watch all the cheaters get flipped.

[fallen knot]

a mod that autosaves the game as a separate file in time lapses that can be either days, weeks, months or even years

it's done for B41 actually

[small osprey]

It's an arms-race I suppose. Don't spill all the secrets, let them scripters figure it out by themselves.

Best "defense" is a healthy community and good admins?

[fallen knot]

i was just testing it out with B42

[small topaz]

Hi! I am currently playtesting some of my mods on the most recent 42.7.0 and got this strange error:

ERROR: General      f:870, t:1744062334052> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown
    org.sqlite.SQLiteException: [SQLITE_CONSTRAINT_PRIMARYKEY] A PRIMARY KEY constraint failed (UNIQUE constraint failed: vehicles.id) at DB.newSQLException(DB.java:1179).
    Stack trace:
        org.sqlite.core.DB.newSQLException(DB.java:1179)
        org.sqlite.core.DB.newSQLException(DB.java:1190)
        org.sqlite.core.DB.execute(DB.java:985)
        org.sqlite.core.DB.executeUpdate(DB.java:1054)
        org.sqlite.jdbc3.JDBC3PreparedStatement.lambda$executeLargeUpdate$2(JDBC3PreparedStatement.java:129)
        org.sqlite.jdbc3.JDBC3Statement.withConnectionTimeout(JDBC3Statement.java:458)
        org.sqlite.jdbc3.JDBC3PreparedStatement.executeLargeUpdate(JDBC3PreparedStatement.java:124)
        org.sqlite.jdbc3.JDBC3PreparedStatement.executeUpdate(JDBC3PreparedStatement.java:105)
        zombie.vehicles.VehiclesDB2$SQLStore.addToDB(VehiclesDB2.java:335)
        zombie.vehicles.VehiclesDB2$SQLStore.updateVehicle(VehiclesDB2.java:300)
        zombie.vehicles.VehiclesDB2$QueueAddVehicle.processWorldStreamer(VehiclesDB2.java:890)
        zombie.vehicles.VehiclesDB2$WorldStreamerThread.update(VehiclesDB2.java:651)
        zombie.vehicles.VehiclesDB2.updateWorldStreamer(VehiclesDB2.java:1076)
        zombie.iso.WorldStreamer.threadLoop(WorldStreamer.java:513)
        zombie.iso.WorldStreamer.lambda$create$0(WorldStreamer.java:544)
        java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
LOG  : ExitDebug    f:1070, t:1744062338520> EXITDEBUG: ToggleEscapeMenu 1```
My mods are not in any way related to the vehicle system. Possible that this is an error from the vanilla game?

[red tiger]

Oh. It's open-source.

[fallen knot]

it works just fine, but it isnt synced to the mod options file because it's different in B42

so i was just fixing that

[red tiger]

It's a good design so it'll take time for any cat-and-mouse plays from the other side. I built in diversity to break anti-cheat bypasses.

[fallen knot]

after that's done, it's gonna release

[small osprey]

Yeah of course.

[fallen knot]

i've even got footage of it working already so it's just a matter of fixing that and then upload it to the workshop

[fallen knot]

I might be wrong, but it seems b42.7 its buggy with the mod list

i get a bug just by opening the mod menu

[bronze yoke]

when you have basic functioning anti-cheat, yes, this is the only viable way - but zomboid doesn't by default so hackers can be insanely destructive so having admins to respond after the fact isn't enough

[fallen knot]

lol

[fallen knot]

rest deserved

i thought i was gonna be done with my mod today but b42 said nuhuh 🙃

regardless, it'll be prob done by tomorrow

had it almost figured out but had to go due to my english class

[small topaz]

this error happened for me during gameplay only once so far. but never seen it before so I am wondering what this could be...

[red tiger]

When your anti-cheat injects generated values for server-client code that only works within that session and even encryption keys are based off of dynamically injected key-generation functions, hackers will uhh.. have a hard time.

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-27235416

[fallen knot]

i'm happy that i didnt have to do the decompiler frankestein for b42 though

zomboid decompiler did just fine

funny that it works better with b42 than b41

[small osprey]

Yes I was expecting something like this.

[red tiger]

This is why I loadstring the server and client-code.

BTW all that stuff is broken down into utilities / libraries for anyone to use for their projects.

Not sure who will need string-injection magic but its there.

[bronze yoke]

i've never actually tested it with b41 even once, it started development after b42's public release, it shouldn't behave differently in any major way but issues that are exclusive to b41 aren't going to get noticed or fixed

[fallen knot]

ohhh, that explains a lot then

Yeah, i barely had any problems with b42

compared to b41

i see why now

[red tiger]

?

[small osprey]

oopps wrong mention.

[fallen knot]

it's not that b41 is unusable, just more buggy

[bronze yoke]

i'm not sure if there's anything i've done that specifically should help b42 more but again b41 doesn't get any testing, if it works it works

[red tiger]

I'm falling back into development for Mallet btw.

[fallen knot]

makes sense

[small osprey]

Razab personally I have no idea. I assume you test with no other mods and on a fresh player life, yes? could be a corrupted file? Something is trying to insert a key that already exists it seems.

[red tiger]

Upgrading the anti-cheat was a detour.

[fallen knot]

pretty good job by the way, it manages to stay simple for a decompiler

[red tiger]

Back to fighting the war of documentation.

[bronze yoke]

yeah, the main purpose of it was just to get it to be the least effort possible, realising i could use it to seriously improve the output came later

[fallen knot]

and since i had to playtest b42, i get to share my thoughts on it after a good while

[red tiger]

I still haven't played 42 yet. =(

[fallen knot]

i think my favorite aspect about it is the performance improvement, the new weather system, and the useless items that ironically add a lot

i experienced all of that in a short playthrough lol

[red tiger]

Lost and deep in the trenches of code.

[fallen knot]

oh also the new aiming system is fun

[bronze yoke]

i'd like to write something to resolve generic parameters (these seem to be the cause of 99% of uncompilable code) since it doesn't seem like it'd actually be that hard, but it's a lot of effort, vineflower's api doesn't really let me do anything like that so i'd probably have to do it in post

[fallen knot]

hmm, sounds tedious

[red tiger]

Oh yeah. You can't really. It would have to walk through every single generic implementation in runtime.

Oh wait

No you can actually.

There's a couple utilities I used to achieve this somewhat with PipeWrench.

Candle was a rewrite of the codebase for PipeWrench typings.

[bronze yoke]

if you think of an arraylist, something is going to call get at some point and cast the result to the type that's actually contained (or potentially a supertype but it doesn't really matter if we end up giving it a supertype), i just have to work backwards from there

[red tiger]

I don't think you'd need to go that far but then again I looked at class-structure, not actual code-blocks.

This is what I wanted to do for Lua typing discovery.

I was working on code that walked and discovered type assignments / references in the PZ Lua codebase.

[bronze yoke]

yeah, i've been thinking of doing that as well 😅 omar's lua stub rewrite is fantastic but it still ends up with unknown for java types

[small osprey]

Quick chat with chatGPT recommends "Delete vehicles.db (located under Zomboid/Sandbox/<save>/vehicles.db) — it will be regenerated, but this will remove all parked vehicle data unless they are saved elsewhere like in a mod."

Just a stab in the dark, never blindly trust the AI.
Anyway, maybe just a corrupted save file (corrupted how, well, good luck :D)

[red tiger]

You'd have to manually input those types.

[bronze yoke]

i'm sure we could use rosetta data to resolve java types

[red tiger]

I was abusing Candle to achieve this.

There's code somewhere on my repo that has this stuff.

Basically it'd require walking through all blocks, noting scopes and their respective local declarations.

Then you'd look through an AST of the code for references and assignments.

--- @type string|number|nil
local x;
-- ..
x = 'e';
-- ..
x = 2;

[bronze yoke]

yeah that's what i had in mind

[red tiger]

Lua makes it even easier to discover because of the syntax.

PZ needs the custom flavor of Roblox Lua.

[mellow frigate]

I do not understand the point. if the decoding is done client side from a sent key. the decoding of the key is as easy for the legit client than for the hacker, right ?

[red tiger]

This is true, however because the code is loaded and somewhat dynamically generated, scrappers can't easily pick out the next key which is in the code and is generated only for the handshake. Then the next key is built with functions for the server-fragment and the client-fragment. The client-fragment is also ran and audited on the server. These key-generator functions are dynamically injected into EtherHammerX's engine and are moddable by servers.

I can't defeat the fact that the client requires the initial key.

I have to obfuscate this. However scrambling dynamic, varying lengths of strings and injecting them makes scrappers more difficult to write.

Even moreso the key-gen functions I provide by default use synchronized randoms so execution count matters. That alongside servers being able to quickly customize how their keys work and their modules work gives way to diversifying the anti-cheat, making it even harder for cheaters to bypass.

[bronze yoke]

no global scope 🥺

[red tiger]

Further still, if the client doesn't respond (correctly or at all), the server kicks.

I'm limited in what I can do for anti-cheats for PZ as a modder however the code I have in place for EtherHammerX should be strong enough to give server admins a fighting chance and opportunities to add to and improve on their own anti-cheat detection.

Build 42 should make this situation improve drastically with systems migrating to server-side.

[small topaz]

thanks. I'll keep trying a bit. Maybe the new update just messed things up in my zomboid folder or smth

[red tiger]

@mellow frigate If you have any suggestions or ideas on how to improve the anti-cheat, please let me know. I want this thing to work and protect servers. =)

One idea I had was writing commented / annotated ranges where local definitions could be scrambled / randomly inserted to further obfuscate / confuse code scrappers.

[mellow frigate]

I am interested in the topic, so I ask stuff. but I have no knowledge of anti-cheat and MP protection. I see client side anti-cheat as a lost cause. Server side dynamic behaviour analysis may limit the impact though.

[red tiger]

I provide both. =)

With build 41 moving a lot of key functions of the game to client-authority, the server became severely limited in its cheat-detection.

[rose dew]

anyone know where to find the Occupation images in the code

[mellow frigate]

That's a surprise to me, I understood TIS wanted to put most stuff server side (starting with inventory mgmt)

[red tiger]

Yes. This is happening in 42.

I'm not sure why it moved to client-side on 40 -> 41.

The server became somewhat of a glorified bouncer.

The code model where a single-player session runs on a local server would be so much better IMO.

[mellow frigate]

They used an extern team with expertise in that domain. maybe they wanted to provide a PZ MP asap for B41. And the least we can say is that B41 was a huge success (even with the technical limitations you detail)

[red tiger]

Would force these sorts of design choices that encourages separation of code and speculation on what authors events and how to control that within a simulated server.

[red tiger]

Yeah this is also what I believe happened.

The builds are becoming so big that it takes years now instead of months.

It's also a nightmare for hype-building. Would explain why Thursdoids are now Monthdoids.

Build 41 was moderately successful as a marketing campaign for the game. A lot of eyes looked at PZ when 41 released.

Hopefully 42 will address issues with PvP servers suffering from cheats and latency degrading the quality of the game.

[mellow frigate]

If choices must be made, I would prefer latency problem solution with white-listed servers than anti-cheat.

[red tiger]

I think that servers should have options. Those choices aren't mutually-exclusive. =)

PZ has a very creative community. I'd like to see what is in store for build 42 and those who are up for the challenge to solve those problems when they come.

Right now I'm writing tools to prepare people for when that time comes, both anti-cheat and modding tools like Umbrella.

[frank elbow]

Both of you are reading my mind, I see

The AST thing is what stubgen currently does, but yeah without Java types it's just primitives, Lua-defined classes, and a whole lot of unknowns

[storm trench]

Not necessarily anymore. The majority of the work between B41 and 42 was to expedite future builds. The foundation is so much more stable, as made evident by the 7-9 business day patches. I'm not saying B43 is coming later this year, but the strides made from B41 to B42 enabled them to have quicker and more stable updates.

At least that is my understanding of what has gone down.

[silent zealot]

Speaking of builds, 42.7 is out.

Time to see how easily I can update a java mods.

I'm lucky, VehiclePArt did not change. But Better Car physics is broken 😦

[storm trench]

Ughhh you're jokinggg! I freaking love that mod smfh.

[silent zealot]

Same, but given how many file it touches I'm amazed that Neidmare keps up with it so well.

He's already commented to confirm he's aware it's broken and will release a new version.

(or she, or they... I'm just defaulting to "he" without any evidence)

[storm trench]

Hahaa, well I hope it's soon. I love to play in winter and it's borderline impossible to run tractor trailers without it sometimes lolll.

[storm trench]

Anybody know a mod that uses multiple textures for the same item? I'd like to look at their implementation.

[silent zealot]

My current game (assuming it survives 42.7) is in April 1994, but I had such a mild winter! I was a bit dissapointed, not having to drive on snow unabel to see the road etc.

[storm trench]

That's the worst!!! But I tend to avoid that by setting the weather to "very cold" hahaa.

[silent zealot]

Though B42's new grass I think will make that easier, with lots on the edge of road and only small tufts on it.

Cryogenic winter? I did that once, it was fun until I managed to pile on enough insulated clothing to ignore it.

Only time I've actully wanted a firemans outfit!

Added recipe validation that recipes can be learned.

But no fix for "corrept teh entire world or refuse to even load teh game if a recipe has a typo" 😦

fixed more globals. output,test,bullets,bed,b,p,s,v,obj,hotkey,element,str,selected,action,input,uses,delta.

Any ideas what these are? Are there default globals for p=player, s=square the player is in, v=vehicle?

Nope, I'll still be copy/pasting p=getPlayer();v=p:getVehicle() into the lua console.

[jolly comet]

That is a misunderstanding, unfortunately. If anything, b42 code is even more of a monolothic spaghetti nightmare than b41. The current hotfix patch update cadence is by no means representative of how extremely laborious and time consuming tech and feature work is, and it's that tech and feature work that made b42 take so long (new crafting framework, new liquid framework, new lighting engine, new render engine, etc); the patches they are releasing recently are just making content iterations, which a single designer/artist can make the same way a single modder can make a mod with a bunch of scripts and pixel art, excepting ofc that TIS' employees are also actual professionals (although many of the recent hires are former PZ modders, which is just a smart onboarding decision for a small tech startup that doesn't want to and/or can't waste months with onboarding tasks for entirely new hires, which is avoided by modders already familiar with the codebase and game design in question).

The idea that somehow they've made things easier on themselves with b42 is in fact complely the opposite of the truth. In fact, they've thoroughly fucked some stuff up, such as the fact that mapping now uses two entirely different sizes of cells between map making and the in-game render engine, and it's not clear if they intend to actually complete this refactor (to the new size of cell introduced) or if they intend to leave it this way, as as it stands there is effectively duct tape and hot glue holding together systems like the in-game map (which is effectively still using the old b41 cell system, which is different from the new b42 cell size used for chunk rendering), which implies that they just bashed their heads against the wall trying to get the render engine (lighting etc) working for b42's new changes and, once they did, they just made everything else work as best they could. They clearly haven't refactored their code to make anything easier on themselves, QUITE the opposite.

[ornate basin]

Is it true that b42 is limiting all containers to be 50 max capacity? Why is that if so

[storm trench]

For the most part, yep, it's true.

[ornate basin]

Why

Like why would they enforce that

[storm trench]

I wish I knew, too.

[distant inlet]

how do you know?

[storm trench]

Because it exists and I have been living in the wake of the disaster it has caused? lolll. Wdym how do I know?

[gilded crescent]

yeah that's not an unreleased change or anything, thats been like that since 42's release to unstable

[distant inlet]

was wondering if it was in a patch note or something, but yeah that sounds no bueno

[storm trench]

Yea, it's been like that since B42 was first released.

[distant inlet]

not sure if related but there's a [self-described] WIP mod for B42 capacity: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3452113500&searchtext=weight

[ornate basin]

I feel like the only 2 logical reasons I can imagine are that either it's for technical reasons (optimizations or bugs or whatever) or it's because one of the devs got sick of the "1000 capacity" mods LMAO

having 1000 capacity is so nice tho

[storm trench]

Yep, I am waiting for a more stable version before updating the ZuperCarts port with it tho.

[ornate basin]

filling one military locker with all your guns feels so good and it feels so tidy

I was surprised to see that literally no one made a sprinkler mod

there's like

irrigation pipes

but no sprinkler

[storm trench]

Honestly, I have no idea, because whatever the reason is it's not impossible to mod out. So... why implement it in the first place? No clue.

[ornate basin]

you can mod it out via workshop?

I thought you needed to fuck with game files

if so it's not a big deal then ig

[storm trench]

You can, without Java editing and with LUA, but it's a massive PITA.

It's buggy and broken and full of issues.

[ornate basin]

ah well

that sucks

I just want chickens and a locker with 1000 capacity worth of eggs

is that too much to ask for

[distant inlet]

has anyone tried to mess with player cone of view? so far it looks like the classes with the capability aren't exposed in the API to Lua (LightingJNI.java, AnimationPlayer.java)

[storm trench]

Yeah, I tried to get some resolution for this, but nobody cares.

[topaz tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473164772225974283/1358986130065719436/C69BCCE3-5972-46C5-9F09-A141D1AAAF92.png?ex=67f5d5f6&is=67f48476&hm=f0ee5291434a15dd7a73571f1f3d0f773eefa2936fed0604bc0b94a39dd5cf2d&

end of todays progress
almost done, should be on to the masking and lights tommorrow! then ill do some more model varients and texture varients!!!!!

[silent zealot]

I should release the "ignore capacity limit" mod I have, it's been nice and stable since I rewrote the entire thing with API call overrides instead of LUA patches.

[storm trench]

This gives me vibes I can't quite put my finger on, but I LOVE it.

[storm trench]

Well, if it's Java or doesn't update with the UI, then I'll have to pass.

[silent zealot]

It's LUA, but instead of patching the lua functions in 50 places it patches the lua -> java call

[topaz tangle]

It’s the Powell sport wagon if that rings a bell, super neat vehicle

[silent zealot]

Using Albion's magic

Which is nice and simple if you copy-paste the sytax, and a WTF of weird-ass lua quirks otherwise.

[storm trench]

No, prolly saw it in a movie or something before and it's giving me that vibe hahaa. But yeah, it's gorgeous.

[silent zealot]

Reminds me of the '49 Dodge Powerwagon

[storm trench]

Using Albion's gatekept magic*** FTFY :p

[silent zealot]

He's not gatekeeping, we just don't understand his wisdom 😂

[storm trench]

Uhhh huhhh. The only thing Albion imparts on me half the time is confusion hahaa.

And I mean that endearingly hahaa.

[silent zealot]

local index = __classmetatables[DevicePresets.class].__index said no-one sane, ever...

[silent zealot]

...why did 42.7 sawn a zombie in my closet?

[topaz tangle]

Very possible lol!
Definitely my best and favorite texture model combo so far, can’t wait to do the c-series texture updates sometime the the road!!

[topaz tangle]

A bit

Same shaped hoods

[silent zealot]

$@#%^@#!

looks like one chunk of my base reset

The chunk with all the guns and reworked gun counters downstairs, all the renovated kitchen with all my food upstairs!

oh well, I'll dev mode stuff back.

[distant inlet]

wow how???

[silent zealot]

Albion's magic!

[distant inlet]

any particular mod of his?

[silent zealot]

local index = __classmetatables[DevicePresets.class].__index
local old_addPreset = index.addPreset
index.addPreset = function(self, ...)
    local maxPresets = self:getMaxPresets()
    if self:getPresets():size() >= maxPresets then
        self:setMaxPresets(maxPresets + 1)
    end
    old_addPreset(self, ...)
end

Not a mod, the syntax to modify the ...mumble mumble table mumble mumble meta table mumble mumble

[steep cliff]

thats happened to me at random recently

[silent zealot]

That example changes DevicePresets.addPreset()

Same as modifying lua functions, but you're modifying the lua functions that interact with java.

[distant inlet]

this is awesome i didn't realize it was possible

[silent zealot]

I think everyone assumes it's not possible, then Albion just casually drops "no, you can do it like this" in chat

[distant inlet]

yeah it looks like he's modifying a java "object" stored in lua

[distant inlet]

dis me

[silent zealot]

It's the lua side of the Kahlua java <-> lua interface

but also include metatables which are a confusing lua thing on their own

"lets make Lua an OO language, but... all we have to work with are tables tables and tables."

[distant inlet]

anything is OO if you ignore enough guard rails

[topaz tangle]

Albion has been a very helpful individual for my modding adventures aswell!!!!

[craggy nacelle]

dont really get it, will have to browse the internet for that, but you mean i can change the java side of things? nice 🙂

[silent zealot]

no no no

You're not changing anything in java

only where lua calls java

So that example will work when lua calls DevicePresets.addPreset() but will do nothing if a java class calls DevicePresets.addPreset()

[craggy nacelle]

also wenn doing a chanel search, the most helpfull answers are mostly albion or sir doggy ^^

[silent zealot]

To change a java function when other java code calls it you need a java mod and replace the .class file.

[craggy nacelle]

ah ok, thats rather sad, but understandable. still, for a moment i had hope. XD

[silent zealot]

It's still immensly powerful

[distant inlet]

has anyone wrapped LuaManager.java to expose additional classes to Lua? I don't think there'd be too many maintenance risks

[bronze yoke]

the only issue with metatables imo is that they're kind of obscure to learn about, ultimately they're just a set of hardcoded names that do hardcoded things

[distant inlet]

maybe cheat risks depending on what's exposed

[bronze yoke]

i personally like that lua is so consistent that the only data structure ever is a table

[distant inlet]

if you think about it java is just primitives and Object derivatives

[silent zealot]

Zomboid is already full of cheat risks... a cheater can just modify java if they want

[silent zealot]

If you think about it every language is assembly in a fancy outfit.

And assembly is just ones and zeros, which are just a bunch of special rocks that can control lightning.

Writing cheats in Cheat Engine is just modding in assembly.

[fallen knot]

i can confirm in my three days staying in here that is true

[silent zealot]

Does anyone other than modders ever use them like we're doing here?

Feel like one of those things where the normal answer is "just write that into your code, don't patch stuff at run time!"

That's why I had a lot of trouble getting the hang of C# reflection... what sane coder would use that when you could just add the stuff you need to the target object?

[bronze yoke]

reflection is a workaround for insufficient api

[silent zealot]

All my fresh vegies are gone, replaced with this. 😦

[bronze yoke]

for modding that comes up a lot

[fallen knot]

yeah kinda

programming in assembly is the worst thing ever though

ive suffered just trying to write simple code

brrr

[fallen knot]

i guess that's why they call it unstable

most of my runs dont last longer than a month anyways, i doubt i'd suffer from this

[topaz tangle]

I always make a new save right before actually starting to progress

I like exclusively play the game to collect vehicles lol

[queen oasis]

That would be this mod which does fix capacity in pure lua
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3452113500

[distant inlet]

was reading about metatables... so they basically allow you to change behavior of specific tables? idk if there's an analog in other languages for the level of control. maybe c++ for the operator overrides

[distant inlet]

@ornate basin was asking about this I think

[queen oasis]

that's poed's mod. it uses the capacity override mod

[bronze yoke]

the main usage is __index can be used to emulate classes

[craggy nacelle]

Strange, i just was looking for the IsoGameCharacter, looking for a way to get it ouside of the getdamage event call... then i read a comment from albion how its an abstract class that you cant get. Did i set the param of it the whole time wrong because the doku wrote the wrong thing?
( Me: I trust albion more then the wiki. Wiki: Tell her to write me then! 🤣 )

[silent zealot]

What do you mean "looking for the IsoGameCharacter"?

Do you mean the player object for the active player? That's IsoPlayer

[craggy nacelle]

Nothing much, i had it in the ondamage event, so i thought instead of saving the player id save the gamcharacter beforehand, but coudnt find a method to get to it and used the search function. Thats when i stumbled over albions comment on this and was like: damn wiki, you lied to me!

[bronze yoke]

an IsoGameCharacter 'exists', but any IsoGameCharacter is actually an IsoPlayer, IsoZombie etc

[silent zealot]

And unless you're doing something weird, you want a specifc instance of it (i.e.: tha player you want to affect)

[bronze yoke]

there's no such thing as a pure IsoGameCharacter

[silent zealot]

getPlayer() will get the active player.

(client side, if your code is running on a server you need to be more specific.. no idea about split screen)

A lot of events or existing code will pass the player object around as well.

[craggy nacelle]

shrug dude really? XD come on, im new, but not that new. No, as i said, it was that i found myself scratching my head when looking a bit closer on the ondamage that i was like: hmmmm, how about this (its early in the morning here, so give me a break for having stupid thoughts ^^)

Here, take a look guys, thats what made me write this

character: IsoGameCharacter (JavaDoc) - The character who took damage.
damageType - The type of damage the character took.
"POISON"
"HUNGRY"
"SICK"
"BLEEDING"
"THIRST"
"HEAVYLOAD"
"INFECTION"
"LOWWEIGHT"
"FALLDOWN"
"WEAPONHIT"
"CARHITDAMAGE"
"CARCRASHDAMAGE"
damage: number - The damage that was taken.

from OnPlayerGetDamage event in the wiki

And this is how i set up the header of my ondamage till now:

---@param character IsoGameCharacter
---@param damageType any
---@param damage any
DER.OnPlayerGetDamage = function(character, damageType, damage)

[silent zealot]

Could be old, could be something that was always wrong on the wiki... could be some weirdness where it casts the IsoPlayer back to IsoGameCharacter.

If lua was strictly typed this would be a lot less messy.

[craggy nacelle]

True, its just that i had set my param to isogamecharacter till now never looking at it specific. ^^

[silent zealot]

And you'd never spend an hour smashing your head on a wall because a vanilla function was passing the player number as player, not the object.

One of the TIS devs uses playerObj and playerNum. I like that person.

[fallen knot]

avoid using getplayer at all cost

[craggy nacelle]

Well, there are also cases where you try to use a function and always get anull pointer, trying for hours and hours till you come here with a white flag and then the code wizards here say: Ah, thats an empty function...

[fallen knot]

specially if your mod wants to be multiplayer/npc compatible

always try to use the user who called the function in a first place

best practice

[silent zealot]

I have a feeling that the multiplayer is going to break so many things, but also it's going to be so different from B41 in terms of what to do where and what commands to send that it's not worth trying to plan for now.

[fallen knot]

just take it east

easy

take it east sounds funny

[silent zealot]

But if you have the option of using a player object from a paramater always take that over getPlayer... and most times you can.

[fallen knot]

yes

you rarely NEED to use getplayer

its more of a lazy practice

but i suffered from it when i enabled NPC mod

[silent zealot]

getPlayer() is my most used function typing manually on the in-game lua console though. 😛

[fallen knot]

had to go thru the process of replacing each and every one of getplayers lol

[fallen knot]

ive never used the lua console honestly

[silent zealot]

It can be really helpful for debugging

or just hacking up things quickly in game.

[fallen knot]

i usually just spam prints when debugging

works most of the time to let me know if shit's actually executing

[silent zealot]

equip canteen in main hand, getPlayer():getPrimaryHandItem():getFluidContainer():setCapacity(2) and now it holds 2L.

[silent zealot]

I do that too!

[fallen knot]

hell yeah

[craggy nacelle]

so if you write a mod for multiplayer, but the modul you are usinig with a ongameinit event is client sided, you shoudnt use getplayer?

[silent zealot]

but sometimes poking things directly helps as well, or I make a special function just to use from the lua console to help me figure out a mod

[silent zealot]

Think about how it triggers.

[fallen knot]

welll, getplayer will literally load each and every client's player on MP depending on the context lol

so if one player for example ate poison and you used getPlayer to poison them

you might as well poison others

[silent zealot]

if you attach code to OnDamagePlayer() you'll have the player object handed to you, if you attach code to OnTenMinutes() you'll have to do a "for each player" loop

[fallen knot]

i was made aware of this when the stupid NPCs were affecting my character by doing dumb stuff themselves lol

it was kinda funny

[craggy nacelle]

Hm, could i just check if im online, use the online player id to look the local player up and save it as a reference?

[silent zealot]

You could add a check to OnCreatePlayer() that saves the player object if it's the local player.

[fallen knot]

NPCs are essentially other players so it's actually a great way to test you're doing things relatively okay

[silent zealot]

Modded NPCs?

Bandits makes the NPCs out of Zombies... so it's funny when the mod breaks and all your near-useless guards revert to zombies.

Or an idle NPC uses zombie idle animations.

Pretty sure I've murded dozens of human who were just sleepy lol

[fallen knot]

oh i meant more like superb survivors. it uses the deleted NPCs so like

they do act like other players basically

it is how i learned that getplayer is only useful for SP

[silent zealot]

I've not tried that (other than a short attempt in B41 that exploded everything so I quit)

[fallen knot]

in other words, the game interprets them as IsoPlayer

so yeah

if you rlly wanna test everything's ok with MP on your mod you could try it with SS in case it isnt anything big

[silent zealot]

I wonder if the official NPCs will be another class off IsoLivingCharacter

[fallen knot]

not really how much of good practice is that but that's that lol

[fallen knot]

didnt even know living character was a thing lmao

[silent zealot]

Hmmm.

[craggy nacelle]

Just to make sure my tired brain gets it rigth, but local player is the 'LOCAL' player, not just any player ... right? Oo

[silent zealot]

IsoAnimal inherits from IsoPlayer

Which mean racoons are higher evolved than players

But that would make sense if the NPC (or animal) can do everything a player can but also needs an AI framework

[craggy nacelle]

Because the oncreateplayer event speaksof a player number, which confuses me.

[silent zealot]

While Zombies are highly stripped down compared to a player.

[fallen knot]

yeah

[silent zealot]

I have no idea how player number is assigned, last time I checked in single player my player number was 3

[fallen knot]

shrugs

i only know there can be up to 4

local players

[silent zealot]

doesn't matter how it gets assigned as long as you can take it and go getPlayerByNum(x) or whenever the function is called

[bronze yoke]

usage of getPlayer doesn't actually affect multiplayer compatibility

[craggy nacelle]

Ah, so i should use that instead of the player the function provides? I like saving stuff like that localy to not call up functions all the time.

[bronze yoke]

only splitscreen

but it's bad code style even if you don't plan on supporting splitscreen

[silent zealot]

no, if a function provides a player use that unless you want to affect someone else

[fallen knot]

huh, i see

[craggy nacelle]

K thx. Just like to be on the saver side of things. To often i spend hours banging my head against a wall becaue i dint pay attention to some little detail. ^^

[silent zealot]

oh, so it's a "which local player on this client" number?

[fallen knot]

thanks for correcting me

saying missinfo online aint fun 😔

i guess SS is a good way to test local multiplayer compatibility then... even though barely anyone uses it LOL