mod_development

[drifting ore]

also is localizing globals worth it in this context?

i know if it's called like once or not often then w/e

after all this i honestly think i'm shelving the craft speed until next update lol....

[thick karma]

Well it depends on what you hope to localize but you can't localize the function your item script needs to call afaik

[drifting ore]

i'll just stick it to 120 for now

[thick karma]

Your item script would have no way of accessing it if it weren't global

Pretty sure the game isn't gonna attempt every conceivable import to try to hunt down a form of local access.

[drifting ore]

yea i dont localize my sandboxvars

[thick karma]

Yeah I would not recommend that either

I mean, you can localize copies of your global functions if you want

I would highly recommend putting everything in a module and returning that module

If you want to make your code more local

[drifting ore]

other than that mostly everything else has worked. but i'm just trying things for when i'm pulling from global namespace or whatever often

[thick karma]

That way people can still get at your data if they need it

(i.e. future modders modding your mods)

[thick karma]

Personally localizing stuff like getSpecificPlayer is not worthwhile to me because I call those functions so rarely that they barely affect the speed of execution at all.

[drifting ore]

so doing somthing like Nipswitch = Nipswitch or {} and prefixing?

do i prefix every function? then

[thick karma]

The difference between a single global call to getSpecificPlayer and a call to its local copy might even be immeasurable.

(Feel free to prove me wrong, anyone.)

(A single call, not a group of 100 or 1000.)

To me, a time so brief you might not be able to measure it in ms is not worth optimizing.

[drifting ore]

yea i agree. for me i only want to make sure whatever im doing isn't the thing thats making someones game run the worst of all other mods 😄

[thick karma]

I have done rather complicated things on a single tick and noticed 0 slowdown in gameplay

So I don't think getSpecificPlayer is ever really gonna be a game-breaking difference.

[thick karma]

Absolutely

Reasonable

[drifting ore]

well im not going to lie.. i had really hoping figuring out how to used timed actions were WAY more simple than that

it doesn't seem overly complicated but time consuming

in my head it seemed as simple as adding a timer above my char and make them do animations and not be able to move without canceling timer...

[agile lily]

Hey hey people, could I get some feedback on my models? <3

[drifting ore]

probably going to move right into the light power one

there is a modeling channel. but i dont think anyone would hate it also 😄

[agile lily]

Posted an image there! It's just way less active than this channel, so thought I'd ask here as well hehe

[drifting ore]

share away. it's technically development of a mod hahaha

[agile lily]

Bread looking one is heroin, other one is LSD. Small bottles are codeine and morphine.
I'd love to get some feedback on em' if possible! (copy pasted from other channel because I'm lazy :^) )

[drifting ore]

they are really good! one thing i'd point out is your edges have some lighting thing going on

[agile lily]

Thanks! Which ones specifically have it? All of them?

[drifting ore]

most. the cup up top doesnt on the top half

that codeine bottle is decent

still has a little lighting issue though

im far from pro at this

[agile lily]

Hmm, I think that could be attributed to how PZ handles lighting overall

[drifting ore]

it is, but i've seen others combat it

all my modeling i did was from gta 5 lol

[thick karma]

I like the models regardless of the lighting. They look good to me.

[drifting ore]

i like the bags the best tbh

[agile lily]

I think they all might be a bit too colorful, will probably tone that down a bit :x

[drifting ore]

maybe. but i like that in the bags lol

[thick karma]

Ditto

[drifting ore]

can't get over the pill scaling tho

😛

[thick karma]

What drug user doesn't like colorful drugs?

[drifting ore]

i know why they are big

but still lol

[thick karma]

Yeah those pills are scary I would die.

[agile lily]

Just wait until you see how big they were originally

[thick karma]

lol

[drifting ore]

honestly smaller would be better imo depending on how many you planned on putting into a bottle

[thick karma]

LOL

[drifting ore]

LOL

[thick karma]

Yes!

You should let people pick them up and eat them to explode

[agile lily]

It's the default project zomboid antibiotics model with a different texture, on the last pic they were at a scale of 1

Now they're on a scale of 0.01

They're freaking huge

Lmao

[drifting ore]

honestly if they still look half decent i'd go another 50%

[thick karma]

.002 possible?

[drifting ore]

haha

[agile lily]

Not sure actually, but I don't see why not 😂

[thick karma]

I'd give something in the 002-004 range a shot

[drifting ore]

i think it's a double value right

[agile lily]

I've been cautious of scaling things down too much because it just turns to a bowl of porridge after a certain point

[drifting ore]

lmao

[thick karma]

Definitely

[agile lily]

But those pills are quite vivid in their color so could probably make them smaller

[thick karma]

The pills are fortunately just two colors in an oval shape

[agile lily]

Yes yes

[thick karma]

So even with 2 pixels they would probably look similar

[drifting ore]

yea the less you have to scale the more it looks like what you intended anyways right?

at least in game*

[agile lily]

Depends on how big you made them in your 3d software, like, some models in vanilla PZ are freaking HUGE without scaling them down. If you want to make something at the proper size in blender you need to work with objects that are freaking tiny, so tiny that the software has a hard time rendering it lmao

[drifting ore]

some of the 3d modeling i've done was lossless scaling also so i'm not sure on this stuff

[thick karma]

You could try a pill bottle, too, in theory, with those depicted on the label

If shrinkin them goes too far

[drifting ore]

insulin box i made for my diabetes trait mod (TBD) lol

[agile lily]

Oh! I like that, I actually thought of something similar with what I'm making now

[drifting ore]

i like the side ish angle

[agile lily]

Is that the model or the icon?

[drifting ore]

technically the icon but the model wont be far off

[agile lily]

Looks really good, very readable

👍

[drifting ore]

tyty

bottle lol

not sure how to model that one yet

[agile lily]

Check out if there are vanilla models you can just resize or retexture before you make something from scratch

A bit of advice so you save yourself some time

[drifting ore]

yea i made a book world model off of it haha

lolol

[thick karma]

Can I see your .lua file?

[agile lily]

I thought of that! But I feel loose pills kinda fit the bill a bit more

[thick karma]

I agree actually.

Just throwing things out there.

I like the look even though they're large.

[agile lily]

Also made a breathalyzer

[drifting ore]

for the craft speed? i haven't changed much since i realized i'm going to have to copy and redo 3 functiosn just to make it happen

thats real good

[thick karma]

Those pills definitely say, "I sure hope you're ate."

[agile lily]

Hahaha

[thick karma]

I am actually curious why your code couldn't find your OnCreate function

I have ideas of why.

[drifting ore]

function Recipe.OnCreate.Switch(items, result, player_num)
    local switchSpeed = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Craftspeed
    local player = getSpecificPlayer(player_num)
    SwitchCraftAction = ISCraftAction:derive("SwitchCraftAction")
    --SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed, Recipe.Switch, nil, nil)

local SwitchCraftAction = SwitchCraftAction:new(player, result, switchSpeed)
    player:getAnimNode("Disassemble")
    player:setProp1("Screwdriver")
    player:setProp2("lighting_indoor_01_0")
    player:getEmitter():playSound("VehicleHotwireStart")
print("Player:", player)
print("Result:", result)
print("Switch Speed:", switchSpeed)
end

was the last thing i had and haven't gotten

i'm assuming because of the function usage you mentioned

[thick karma]

I need the rest of the file. The answer is not here.

[drifting ore]

the rest is just the vanilla functions exactly minus 1 line

ISCraftAction

[thick karma]

Oh I see you hope to use Recipe.OnCreate from lua/server/recipecode.lua

Are you clientside?

I wonder if that is relevant...

[drifting ore]

yes

i'm running from server

everything

[thick karma]

Oh you're writing your code in lua/server?

Okay

[drifting ore]

i figured it would be best since its used for both

[thick karma]

Just noticed you went with "player_num". Again, completely nonstandard name for the player index, fwiw to you.

[drifting ore]

lolol

[thick karma]

Game uses playerIndex and playerNum

And player

I think one of those is infinitely more legible and precise than the others.

So I use that one.

But you do you.

[drifting ore]

it's what i used for the rest of the mod so far lol from the first noobness there

like i said trying to satyt consistent with what i've used in this mod so far

[thick karma]

Regardless, I would not for the love of all that is good create a 4th way to write it.

Ctrl + H is your friend.

[drifting ore]

ahaha fair enough

well very few days do i make it to 5 am but today is one

[thick karma]

lol right on

I usually don't sleep when I do that

[agile lily]

What mod development does to a mfer

[drifting ore]

i'll take one last look at this tomorrow. been on this mod literally all day

[thick karma]

That's how I was finishing the safehouse/faction UIs a couple days ago

[drifting ore]

my lady wont let me get away with being useless all day hahaha

[thick karma]

got a bit obsessive trying to get them published asap lol

[drifting ore]

thank you btw. i will come to this convo and learn even more from it

[thick karma]

I have no lady so I can be infinitely useless.

So useless it's incredible.

[agile lily]

Disregard ladies, acquire internet REP

I so desperately want to finish what I'm working on, but it's a team effort and I don't know jack shit about LUA :^)

[cosmic condor]

How many items can we drop on the floor without crashing the server?

[agile lily]

Huh?

[cosmic condor]

dropped thousands of money and now I can't load into the game lol

[thick karma]

Lol oof

[cosmic condor]

5000 of the same items still cause lag

[drifting stump]

well yes

there are 5000 instances of that object

and inventory processing is done in array lists

[thick karma]

I'm not sure individual items are the best way to track individual bills...

lol

Maybe a Cash item with some mod data would be more efficient.

Just combine cash objects and add their values...

Idk I haven't done a shop mod.

[drifting stump]

that is indeed the best way

[cosmic condor]

yes, but this scenario can happen

[thick karma]

Oof lol is that vanilla money?

[cosmic condor]

players may stack up the bills and accidentally drop it

[cosmic condor]

yes

[thick karma]

Bahaha

Uhh yeah mod out vanilla money

lmfao

I dunno is it good for anything?

[drifting stump]

you wont ever aquire 5000 money in normal gameplay

[thick karma]

I never collect money when I play lmao

Seems like the last thing I need

in the apocalypse...

[drifting stump]

plus vanilla money has weight

[cosmic condor]

I remove the weight lol

maybe I have to rethink

[drifting stump]

just store the value in modData

and have a single item

[thick karma]

Maybe just mod vanilla money to automatically add its stack to the value of your player's cash data when they acquire it?

And the item disappears?

Badabingbadaboom?

[cosmic condor]

is there any example mod that can do something like that?

[thick karma]

Add one item to player inventory that gets its name from your player's cash data?

I mean probably not... but you could in theory get the size of the stack you're adding to your inventory when it gets added, and instead add that stack size to player:getModData().money

OnCreatePlayer, player:getModData().money = 0and add money item to player inventory with default amount of money (maybe a random value from 0-50)... on add inventory item (idk the function name but I'm sure it exists), if the item is a stack of money, player:getModData().money = player:getModData().money + stackSize, remove old money item from your inventory, add new money item where name == player:getModData().money

I am not clear on the details but I strongly suspect this abstract strategy could work.

Maybe this is already how Shops and Traders does it idk

Could check that out

Or Noir's Shops

idk

@cosmic condor I haven't looked closely at any of the shop mods' code bases yet

[cosmic condor]

I may have to add the weight back to limit the number of items

[thick karma]

Word fair enough

[cosmic condor]

Just crazy idea 😆

[drifting stump]

my shop implementation was cash system agnostic

[rustic garnet]

Damn I think the more I look at PZ code the more I see how it's very hard coded x.x

[drifting stump]

you simply had to overwrite 2 functions i think to patch with any system

[thick karma]

What happened to it?

Do people still use that?

Oh does it survive in albion's update to your mod?

[drifting stump]

it still gets a bunch of subs each day but the release was just a test version

albion picked it up because of william

[thick karma]

Makes sense

[rustic garnet]

Is there any way to acess local functions from other scripts?

[drifting stump]

if they are exported through a module yes

else no

[thick karma]

@rustic garnet On occasion it is not terribly unwieldy to overwrite the global that calls someone's local function, and also rewrite the local function it calls, to do what you need.

If there is no other way.

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, it's mostly because I need something that's inside the HealthClass of PZ and it seems they made a class in it which is local and seems I gotta rewrite the whole thing

[thick karma]

What file?

[rustic garnet]

IsHealthPanel.lua

I need the baseHandler part but its local

[thick karma]

I see

IS*, I don't think it means "is" fwiw.

[rustic garnet]

Sorry my bad there!

[rustic garnet]

Was trying to get hold of the BaseHandler

Usually in c++ would be quite easy to do, thought there would be a way around lua by using something similar to the c++ header files or the using in c#

[thick karma]

Yeaaaah I'm not seeing any external means to access that definition.

May need to copypaste BaseHandler def.

local BaseHandler = ISBaseObject:derive("BaseHandler")

function BaseHandler:new(panel, bodyPart)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    o.panel = panel
    o.bodyPart = bodyPart
    o.items = {}
    return o
end

function BaseHandler:isInjured()
    local bodyPart = self.bodyPart
    return (bodyPart:HasInjury() or bodyPart:stitched() or bodyPart:getSplintFactor() > 0) and not bodyPart:bandaged()
end

function BaseHandler:checkItems()
    for k,v in pairs(self.items) do
        table.wipe(v)
    end

    local containers = ISInventoryPaneContextMenu.getContainers(self:getDoctor())
    local done = {}
    local childContainers = {}
    for i=1,containers:size() do
        local container = containers:get(i-1)
        done[container] = true
        table.wipe(childContainers)
        self:checkContainerItems(container, childContainers)
        for _,container2 in ipairs(childContainers) do
            if not done[container2] then
                done[container2] = true
                self:checkContainerItems(container2, nil)
            end
        end
    end
end

function BaseHandler:checkContainerItems(container, childContainers)
    local containerItems = container:getItems()
    for i=1,containerItems:size() do
        local item = containerItems:get(i-1)
        if item:IsInventoryContainer() then
            if childContainers then
                table.insert(childContainers, item:getInventory())
            end
        else
            self:checkItem(item)
        end
    end
end

function BaseHandler:dropItems(items)
    return false
end

function BaseHandler:addItem(items, item)
    table.insert(items, item)
end

function BaseHandler:getAllItemTypes(items)
    local done = {}
    local types = {}
    for _,item in ipairs(items) do
        if not done[item:getFullType()] then
            table.insert(types, item:getFullType())
            done[item:getFullType()] = true
        end
    end
    return types
end

function BaseHandler:getItemOfType(items, type)
    for _,item in ipairs(items) do
        if item:getFullType() == type then
            return item
        end
    end
    return nil
end

function BaseHandler:getItemOfTag(items, type)
    for _,item in ipairs(items) do
        if item:hasTag(type) then
            return item
        end
    end
    return nil
end

function BaseHandler:getAllItemsOfType(items, type)
    local items = {}
    for _,item in ipairs(items) do
        if item:getFullType() == type then
            table.insert(items, item)
        end
    end
    return items
end

function BaseHandler:onMenuOptionSelected(arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8)
    ISTimedActionQueue.add(HealthPanelAction:new(self:getDoctor(), self, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8))
end

function BaseHandler:toPlayerInventory(item, previousAction)
    if item:getContainer() ~= self:getDoctor():getInventory() then
        local action = ISInventoryTransferAction:new(self:getDoctor(), item, item:getContainer(), self:getDoctor():getInventory())
        ISTimedActionQueue.addAfter(previousAction, action)
        -- FIXME: ISHealthPanel.actions never gets cleared
        self.panel.actions = self.panel.actions or {}
        self.panel.actions[action] = self.bodyPart
        return action
    end
    return previousAction
end

function BaseHandler:getDoctor()
    return self.panel.otherPlayer or self.panel.character
end

function BaseHandler:getPatient()
    return self.panel.character
end

[rustic garnet]

Yeah that's what I was starting to do, such a shame though! Hopefully for the future they gives us a external reference to it, or just making it global

[thick karma]

Yeah some stuff one would hope to mod is tragically buried, but ultimately duplicating a small class is not a huge deal.

It won't make your mod take endlessly longer to load or anything

Slightly longer, sure

Users will live.

(if the mod is worth it)

[rustic garnet]

That's nice to know though! I suppose won't kill anyone to wait a little bit

[thick karma]

I mean it will take a fraction of a second to load a class like the one above on my computer.

Not an amount of time that matters

[rustic garnet]

I wonder if they have anything planned to change it? Otherwise might be worth to recode the whole thing and make an API of sorts. For most of the health stuff you could have easily fixed this problems with a bit more thinking in the structure of the code though

[thick karma]

Yeah I don't know. I wouldn't hold my breath. They're very busy with features that most players agree are more important

e.g., NPCs, animals, even shops may be on the way, UI improvements.

I mean they may cover it when they upgrade UI in general.

That is supposedly in the works.

oooo!

Poltergeist wins cleverest modder of the last 2 minutes award?

[drifting stump]

already looked into it

the derived classes are also local and their instances

[rustic garnet]

Sadly :/

[thick karma]

What about here?

ISBaseObject = {};

ISBaseObject.Type = "ISBaseObject";

--************************************************************************--
--** ISBaseObject:initialise
--**
--************************************************************************--
function ISBaseObject:initialise()

end

--************************************************************************--
--** ISBaseObject:derive
--**
--************************************************************************--
function ISBaseObject:derive (type)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    o.Type= type;
    return o
end

function ISBaseObject:new()
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    return o
end

[faint jewel]

damn, i need to get one of you guys to help me zip up my trucking mod. LOL.

[thick karma]

You couldn't decorate derive?

Why not?

[rustic garnet]

You can derive it but I need specifically the handler since it has the other variables to use in the PZ function

[fast galleon]

I use it now and then

[drifting stump]

^this all the derived classes are also declared local and thats their instantiated use

so cant grab the super from __index

[thick karma]

Why not this? I still don't follow.

GlobalHackery = {}

function ISBaseObject:derive(type)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, self)
    self.__index = self
    o.Type= type;
    if type == "BaseHandler" then
        GlobalHackery.BaseHandler = o
    end 
    return o
end

Would this not create a global copy of BaseHandler?

That one could access freely?

[rustic garnet]

This one would be what I needed which derives from ISBaseObject but they made it local

[thick karma]

Right, but my override above catches the creation of that object and saves it as a global.

So would it not persist?

And have the same inner keys?

Seems like it should.

I would need to test...

type is just a string

And the call to the global ISBaseObject tells us when the object is a BaseHandler

The kind you need...

[rustic garnet]

I can give it a try, but since I wanna derive and add an extra method from BaseHandler, to have an option like Remove Bandage or Add Bandage not sure.

[thick karma]

You could catch them all similarly...

If the above code works, you could rework it like this:

GlobalHackery = {}

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject = {}

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive = GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive

function ISBaseObject:derive(type)
    local o = GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive(self, type)

    if type == "HRemoveBandage" then
        GlobalHackery.HRemoveBandage = o
    elseif type == "BaseHandler" then
        GlobalHackery.BaseHandler = o
    end

    return o
end

This way you actually decorate the original derive

In case it changes for whatever reason.

[rustic garnet]

Happy v day!

[thick karma]

Fixed typos above @rustic garnet

Called GlobalHackery GlobalHacker

What do you think @drifting stump ... would the above global table duping fail because they were declared locally?

Or would they persist via their global copy

[rustic garnet]

I think that would work, but if I would want to add my new type deriving from base handler. How could I write that?

Example of the Bandage One

local HApplyBandage = BaseHandler:derive("HApplyBandage")

function HApplyBandage:new(panel, bodyPart)
    local o = BaseHandler.new(self, panel, bodyPart)
    o.items.ITEMS = {}
    return o
end

How would I call mine?

local HCustomHandler = ...:derive()

[thick karma]

local HApplyBandage = GlobalHackery.BaseHandler:derive("HApplyBandage")

Honestly if this works it's a bit game-changing for me lol

So many times I've copy-pasted because screw it... lol

Poltergeist's idea might be gold.

[rustic garnet]

Yeah was trying to find a way around it xD

[rustic garnet]

Would you call this at the beginning of the load to cache the BaseHandler?

[thick karma]

You wouldn't really call this, it would simply get called whenever things used the derive function

You just throw it in a ModStuff.lua file

[fast galleon]

one thing I remembered, hard to catch shared folder derives

for vanilla

[rustic garnet]

Oh gotcha!

Thank you guys, well going to quickly try this

[thick karma]

ISHealthPanel is in client so hopefully it'll work out

[fast galleon]

maybe if you overwrite ISBaseObject file, might cause issues.

[drifting stump]

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive = GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive

var = nil
think you meant

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive = ISBaseObject.derive

[thick karma]

When you start the game, try print(GlobalHackery.BaseHandler) in debug console.

If it prints a table, I think you're in business.

(But then you can also try print(GlobalHackery.BaseHandler.new) etc. to make sure you can see its functions, too.)

[rustic garnet]

It seems so far to give an error, seing if I can quickly fix it.

[thick karma]

Thank you

Oops

Good catch

@rustic garnet You understand what Browser8 just said?

Use this:

GlobalHackery = {}

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject = {}

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive = ISBaseObject.derive

function ISBaseObject:derive(type)
    local o = GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive(self, type)

    if type == "HRemoveBandage" then
        GlobalHackery.HRemoveBandage = o
    elseif type == "BaseHandler" then
        GlobalHackery.BaseHandler = o
    end

    return o
end

I accidentally did not copy what I meant to copy on line 3.

[rustic garnet]

Uhum, I had fixed that :p

[thick karma]

Oh okay word

[rustic garnet]

It seems the problem is when I derive going to print like you said

see if I can get a reference or I'm getting null

[fast galleon]

@rustic garnet
put this in shared folder, it needs to happen before vanilla file is loaded.

[thick karma]

Ohhhh or you could call reloadLua on that file

Should be harmless right?

[fast galleon]

should be fine

[thick karma]

GlobalHackery = {}

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject = {}

GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive = ISBaseObject.derive

function ISBaseObject:derive(type)
    local o = GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive(self, type)

    if type == "HRemoveBandage" then
        GlobalHackery.HRemoveBandage = o
    elseif type == "BaseHandler" then
        GlobalHackery.BaseHandler = o
    end

    return o
end

reloadLuaFile("media/lua/client/ISHealthPanel.lua") -- Updated based on Poltergeist's suggestion

?

Is that the right command?

[fast galleon]

you need reloadLuaFile("media/lua/client/... .lua")

[thick karma]

Mmmm oof.

Fair enough fair enough

Was hoping it would search lol

[rustic garnet]

As soon as I reload after I put it in the shared folder, it kinda goes black screen and it seems to stay that way

even after restarting the game x.x

[fast galleon]

check logs for errors, sometime f11 can continue loading

[rustic garnet]

Also I think

I'm getting the references

yup

[thick karma]

Really?

It worked?

[rustic garnet]

Might be a little small

but thats the ref

[thick karma]

Ayyyyyyy

[rustic garnet]

Now if I can derive is another story haha

[thick karma]

What did the final code look like?

[rustic garnet]

It seems I can't get the references for functions though let me rety

retry

[rustic garnet]

same as yours still, but I'm gonna just expand it to take a table of stuff I might need

[thick karma]

How are you trying to use them

[rustic garnet]

was just trying to print the reference

[thick karma]

Ohhh

Can I see the print?

[thick karma]

Lmao

❤️

Good job, Glytch3r

Literally superman in Zomboid

[ancient grail]

🙏

[rustic garnet]

lmao I just realized I was printing the ISBaseObject.derive

so not the BaseHandler

[fast galleon]

anyway I feel like I should say not to require or reload files in folders that are not loaded yet
shared < client < server

[rustic garnet]

let me reload

[fast galleon]

nice

[rustic garnet]

GlobalHackery = {}
GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject = {}
GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive = ISBaseObject.derive

function ISBaseObject:derive(type)
    local o = GlobalHackery.ISBaseObject.derive(self, type)

    if type == "BaseHandler" then
        GlobalHackery.BaseHandler = o
    end

    return o
end

function PrintDerive()
    print(GlobalHackery.BaseHandler)
    getPlayer():Say("Debug")
end

Works still though

[thick karma]

so try printing GlobalHackery.BaseHandler.new there.

[fast galleon]

it's global, you can print from console?

[rustic garnet]

Trying now just need to quit and reload, since you can't hotreload while you are in-game

[fast galleon]

try from console, no reload required

[rustic garnet]

Oh shit didn't know that was possible

It works 😄

[thick karma]

Wow it actually works?

You can do the things?

You have the functions?

[rustic garnet]

Yup! much better solution, a lot cleaner

[thick karma]

This is legendary

All praise Poltergeist

[rustic garnet]

I haven't tried to derive, but I'm assuming it's possible since we have the references

[rustic garnet]

Nice workaround for sure!

but it seems it has troubles deriving

I'm guessing that it tried to derive before the reference exist

[drifting stump]

its anything but clean

[rustic garnet]

PZ code is not clean sadly is not clean and very hardcoded. They really should hire some to take care of it, could be a lot better.

[drifting stump]

thats not really the issue

they dont want to break mods

which imo shouldnt even be considered with how the codebase is rn

[ember swallow]

Is this actually one of the main reasons to not improve how lua codebase is structured? Because it seems counterintuitive. Popular mods will survive and it will enable more people to write mods and more complicated mods to be created

[thick karma]

Can I see your derive attempt? Did you use the console?

[rustic garnet]

Still, for the healthclass if they had structure it better would be a lot easier to add stuff into it, and not break anything. You could rewrite the Health to take the table of methods that you can do (Remove Bandage, Apply etc) and let the modders add to that table the extra stuff they would need.

[thick karma]

And actually wait why would you derive anything?

You copied the class defs, no?

[rustic garnet]

Trying to fiddle with it, it gives me some errors at the beginning trying to see if I can

Yup managed to derive

I split it, I left the Global Hackery in the shared folder, and created the derive in the client one

Seems to get rid of the errors

Also that means you can reload it, since you don't reload the references in Global Hackery

[thick karma]

Nice, did you try some data?

local bodyPart = getPlayer():getBodyDamage():getBodyParts():get(1)

local handler = BaseHandler:new(nil, bodyPart)

print(handler:isInjured())

for example?

[rustic garnet]

It works completly fine I managed to add it to the health menu but the drawback is for example in my case I need to store all of this to override this function.

function ISHealthPanel:doBodyPartContextMenu(bodyPart, x, y)
    local playerNum = self.otherPlayer and self.otherPlayer:getPlayerNum() or self.character:getPlayerNum()
    local context = ISContextMenu.get(playerNum, x + self:getAbsoluteX(), y + self:getAbsoluteY());


    print("doBodyPartContextMenu")
    local handlers = {}
    table.insert(handlers, HRemoveBandage:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HApplyPlantain:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HApplyComfrey:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HApplyGarlic:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HApplyBandage:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HDisinfect:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HStitch:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HRemoveStitch:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HRemoveGlass:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HSplint:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HRemoveSplint:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HRemoveBullet:new(self, bodyPart))
    table.insert(handlers, HCleanBurn:new(self, bodyPart))

Gotta store all the HRemoveBandage, HApplyPlantain.. and so on

[thick karma]

Yeah, you need local copies of the handlers for sure... but ultimately... better than copying the whole classes to get them

Little different than import statements

Do you need to do that every time you grab the menu though?

Oh I guess so

For each body part

[rustic garnet]

only once at the start of the game, first time the GlobalHackery is instanciated

[rustic garnet]

I mean for the references

[rustic garnet]

But yup, everytime you use it calls them but since we store the references in the global Hackery that shouldn't be a problem

[thick karma]

You could probably decorate that function for more compatibility with other mods I'm guessing

Presumably it just adds a bunch of options to the context menu it grabs?

You can actually remove and replace options by name

So you could decorate that, and right after it runs, grab and replace the menu options you want to replace.

So if any modded options are added to the list via someone else's decoration, they should be okay.

Is there not an event in that function?

[rustic garnet]

Uh interesting, I suppose just as easily I could add to the context menu?

[rustic garnet]

Not sure let me check,

[rustic garnet]

Not that I see atleast

[thick karma]

Oof yeah

nada

Still, you could decorate by getting the context the same way they do

It'll be the same menu object and you can remove/add options to it

Food for thought

[rustic garnet]

I was thinking i could grab them all by something like this

function GlobalHackery.BaseHandler:derive(type)
    local o = GlobalHackery.BaseHandler.derive(self, type)
    GlobalHackery.AllBaseHandlers.add(o);
end

[thick karma]

You could just use BaseHandler:derive if you make your own local copy of BaseHandler based on GlobalHackery.

local BaseHandler = GlobalHackery.BaseHandler

[red tiger]

Good morning.

[thick karma]

This might be problematic actually. This would redefine GlobalHackery.BaseHandler.derive and then call itself.

I think it would stack overflow in an infinite loop

[red tiger]

Going all in on pseudo-class generation muahahah

:D

[rustic garnet]

Yes It would be calling itself, I'm not sure what the actual correct syntax is in lua xD

[humble crown]

Can someone make a negan mod

[thick karma]

If you decide you want to replace options, here's super simple example of a spelling correction I do. You would want to use the getText("translation_variable") if you were doing this, though.

Yogi.bringBalance = function(playerIndex, menu, objects, test)

    if test then return true end
    
    local player = getSpecificPlayer(playerIndex)

    -- Hopefully there's no way to generate a context menu when dead.

    if menu:getOptionFromName("Sit on ground") then
        menu:insertOptionAfter("Sit on ground", "Sit on Ground", player, function() ISWorldObjectContextMenu.onSitOnGround(playerIndex) end)
        menu:removeOptionByName("Sit on ground")
    end
end

[plucky oxide]

Hi, is it possible to find a place to download/use the full png's used on map.projectzomboid.com? or just a city like louisville?
I'd like to replicate the way the map works and see what fun/community I can add

[thick karma]

You would need to back up the original if you wanted to decorate it.

local BaseHandler = GlobalHackery.BaseHandler

local Backup = {
    BaseHandler = {
      derive = BaseHandler.derive
    }
}

function BaseHandler:derive(type)
  o = Backup.BaseHandler.derive(self, type)
  -- You do you.
  return o
end

@rustic garnet I think this would work?

[jovial harness]

Hey guys... Anyone knows if the OnPlayerUpdate event works fine server side ?

[drifting stump]

iirc thats client side only

[jovial harness]

I've got a function on a module that is defined server side that I want to call OnPlayerUpdate

[thick karma]

@rustic garnet Almost makes me want to turn Global Hackery into a proper workshop item of its own, where each mod in the workshop item adds a different formerly local file to the GlobalHackery object, for the convenience of other modders... I would probably use such a mod from time to time.

[drifting stump]

alternatively rewrite the thing and do a pr on the community framework

[jovial harness]

the community framework ?

[thick karma]

Sorry the community framework? Can you submit PRs to Zomboid itself?

[jovial harness]

But I guess I'll rewrite the thing, thanks

[thick karma]

Idk what that is. 😦

[drifting stump]

https://github.com/Project-Zomboid-Community-Modding/pz-community-modding

[thick karma]

Champy he's talking to me.

[drifting stump]

there are 3 mods
patches
framework
dev tools

[rustic garnet]

Sorry was afk for a bit

[rustic garnet]

Same! Was expanding mine to add more stuff for convinience

[thick karma]

Interesting... Is this also a workshop item? Or do people download what they need from the tools and copy them into their own items?

[rustic garnet]

Going to try this

[drifting stump]

its on the workshop

This community project is a team effort to centralize quality of life changes or fixes, utility functions, and making the available Lua files easier to work with in respect to both compatibility and modability.

rewriting files fits in the compatibility and modability

[thick karma]

What is the name? Trying to search Project Zomboid Community Modding and Community Modding doesn't bring anything up

[drifting stump]

thought full file replaces should only be done when absolutely necessary

not sure if its unlisted

[thick karma]

Fair. I mean I would absolutely submit my gamepad support upgrades to this project. They could be reworked as raw upgrades to the vanilla files. If that is a thing that counts as "compatibility". Seems like it should...

At the very least

The Global thing could obviously be useful too

But I don't know how users use this project...

[drifting stump]

too hacky to be accepted

like i said a full rewrite is preferable

as for gamepad would be patches

[thick karma]

I fully rewrote much of the original files, I just smashed them together into one file.

I didn't make my own classes with fancy names or anything

Just turned ISPanels into ISPanelJoypads

With the relevant bells and whistles.

And necessary added functionality for gamepad support to even be useful in e.g. the trading UI (such as a way to swap in and out of inventory)

I mean that is arguably a little hacky because ISInventoryPane needs a corresponding upgrade to make it useful for trading

But... yeah if slightly hacky and compatible < totally incompatible, fair enough.

[rustic garnet]

Yeah it would be cleaner to rewrite the whole ISHealthPanelClass for the most part

[drifting stump]

since the project is meant to be a common ground for everything and we make sure to load things first overwrites where it makes sense are preferred to hacky solutions

[thick karma]

Absolutely understandable

[drifting stump]

im working on a new ui system currently

[thick karma]

I could mod my gamepad support solution as pure overwrites of ISInventoryPane, ISTradingUI (and its stuff), ISSafehouseUI (and its stuff), and ISFactionUI (and its stuff).

If it would be used in that context.

[thick karma]

Oh do you already have gamepad support for the features that are missing it in your new system?

[drifting stump]

not necessarily

currently writing a new base ui element from which other things will derive from

[thick karma]

I guess its goal is not to increase compatibility but something else?

[rustic garnet]

I still think if they added a bit more events, and rewrite a bit the architecture to work to expand which is rather simple. Full overwrites are fine, but if they updated on their end its likely you have to redo it from scratch, no?

[thick karma]

Or maybe increase compatibility in a different way?

[drifting stump]

documentation, performance and usability

[thick karma]

I see. Will it be compatible with traditional ways of accessing the elements on which it is based?

[drifting stump]

yes it has the same concept

[thick karma]

Cool

[drifting stump]

i havent decided yet on the class system

but for example im doing away with initialise and instantiate

[thick karma]

I mean those could be called when you make a new object imo

That's standard OOP in a lot of other contexts

[drifting stump]

you simply create the element and its done

[thick karma]

Right

[drifting stump]

rn i have the concept of initialise done on a spec

[thick karma]

That would definitely be nice. Maybe add the ability to call those functions for backwards compatibility?

[drifting stump]

instantiate just happens inside new

its not meant to replace the vanilla one on what already exists

but be a new base

[thick karma]

I see for new mods you mean?

[drifting stump]

yes which is why its in frameworks

[thick karma]

I see I see

Sounds convenient, for sure.

[drifting stump]

as is rn its working like this

[rustic garnet]

What's a spec?

ah gotcha

[drifting stump]

specification

[thick karma]

Yeah I don't love the abbreviation of Specification but I do like the general ability there.

[drifting stump]

so you create a spec which comes with defaults and then you define all the variables which will be used

[thick karma]

I might prefer Data

Or something common

But you know

Your thing

Haha

To each their own

[drifting stump]

i got the idea from discord4j

api for writing discord bots

and they have spec classes for building objects

[thick karma]

Right on, it's not terrible. It's something people could get used to. I just don't think it's the most common thing to call constructor data.

I might prefer CFUI:init() where it just sets the object to have the spec.

just because init is a super common abbreviation and slightly shorter.

[thick karma]

(and perhaps returns the spec as well for convenience)*

But that's just because I come from languages where init and initialize and new are the terminology, and constructor data and parameters and such are the terminology, so calling all that stuff a "spec" is just a bit foreign to me, though I do understand the lingo fine.

Or CFUI:getDefaults() perhaps

Also would not be bad

CFUI:defaults() if you're a true rebel

[drifting stump]

like i said i havent decided on the class system

and depending on what i go with this might change

[thick karma]

For sure for sure just spitballing no offense intended

[drifting stump]

rn im focusing on implementing methods and documenting stuff

[rustic garnet]

Also any way I can clean the Errors console?

[thick karma]

Wasn't someone doing a mod for that?

[drifting stump]

for example

---@class TestUIElement
local TestUIElement = {}


---@class TestUIElementInstance
TestUIElement.InstanceMethods = {}
TestUIElement.InstanceMethods.x = 0

---Performs rendering
function TestUIElement.InstanceMethods:render()
end

---@class TestUIElement
TestUIElement.StaticMethods = {}
setmetatable(TestUIElement, TestUIElement)
TestUIElement.__index = TestUIElement.StaticMethods


---comment
---@generic T : TestUIElement
---@param type `T`
---@return T
function TestUIElement.StaticMethods:derive(type)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, o)

    o.StaticMethods = {}
    setmetatable(o.StaticMethods, o.StaticMethods)
    o.StaticMethods.__index = self.StaticMethods

    o.InstanceMethods = {}
    setmetatable(o.InstanceMethods, o.InstanceMethods)
    o.InstanceMethods.__index = self.InstanceMethods

    o.__index = o.StaticMethods

    return o
end


---comment
---@return TestUIElementInstance
function TestUIElement.StaticMethods:new()
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, o)
    o.__index = self.InstanceMethods

    return o
end

[rustic garnet]

CFUI:Init() does sound a bit more standard

[drifting stump]

one of the concepts i was playing with

completely isolates static and instance methods

[thick karma]

ew don't capitalize function names

[drifting stump]

so you cant call render on the class for example

---@class Test : TestUIElement
local test = TestUIElement:derive("Test")

---@class Test2 : Test
local test2 = test:derive("Test2")

test2:new():render()

[thick karma]

Interesting... can you call this just as briefly?

Well I guess they're called automatically

By the game

[drifting stump]

yeah you still call like normal

i just do some metatable magic to isolate

[thick karma]

I like it, actually. But I have an explicit OOP bias.

[drifting stump]

you can try it on a lua terminal and get a feel for it

[thick karma]

Some people will surely disagree with us there

Maybe a default fallback mode as an optional mode of declaration would be appreciated by them

[thick karma]

You could try deleting the text of console.txt in %userprofile%/Zomboid

That might start showing you errors again next time an error is generated... unsure

Hassle, but faster than restarting the game...

[drifting stump]

my only issue with this is how to declare functions you have to do it this way

function TestUIElement.StaticMethods:doAThing()
end

function TestUIElement.InstanceMethods:doAnotherThing()
end

and might not be the most user friendly

[quasi kernel]

Me realizing I forgot to rename the mod to match the workshop in modinfo but I'm too lazy to submit an update over it

Furniture Tweaks is gonna appear as Better Containers in the mod menu cuz that's what it was originally gonna be called and I forgor to change it

[thick karma]

That's why I was thinking maybe default to instance mode for people who are uncomfortable naming functions that way, since generally speaking they can call the init function and use data / functions statically through something that is fundamentally intended for instanced use and it doesn't need to be the end of the world

Calling a distance function that takes x1, y1, x2, y2 (due to poor design) in an instance would not do any harm, e.g.

[drifting stump]

you still call the functions like normal

TestUI:new()

they are just declared within those tables and i do metatable magic to make it work

then its just a matter if i expose static or instance methods depending on what you operate on

[thick karma]

Right, exactly... so couldn't you just interpret a definition of function TestUIElement:doAnotherThing() to mean function TestUIElement.InstanceMethods:doAnotherThing(), for example?

[drifting stump]

no

[thick karma]

Hmmm

[drifting stump]

functions declared like that would be "shared"

yes still works

but doesnt have the isolation

[thick karma]

I seeeeeeee

Well... falling back to shared mode is not the end of the world.

People can just use it that way if they're uncomfortable with the extra layer of organization, right?

Or would that have potentially severe user experience consequences?

[drifting stump]

nope would just behave the way stuff is rn

[thick karma]

Well that's not catastrophic

[drifting stump]

would just defeat the purpose of the system

[thick karma]

I mean you could maybe just do TestUIElement.Static:doAThing

shrug

[drifting stump]

which is why ive been think thonking of other systems

[thick karma]

Fair

[drifting stump]

let me grab another one

[thick karma]

I mean, what about just letting the first variable be static or not?

[drifting stump]

---@class ExperimentalUIElement
local ExperimentalUIElement = {}

---Performs rendering
function ExperimentalUIElement:render()
end


local ObjectManager = {}

---Creates a new object which has the given object as the super class
---@generic T
---@param class table
---@param newClassName `T`
---@return T
function ObjectManager.derive(class, newClassName)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, o)
    o.__index = class

    o.Type = newClassName

    return o
end

---Creates an instance of the given class
---@generic T
---@param class T
---@return T
function ObjectManager.new(class)
    local o = {}
    setmetatable(o, o)
    o.__index = class

    return o
end

[thick karma]

TestUIElement:new(static, . . .)

[drifting stump]

---@class DerivedUIElement : ExperimentalUIElement
local test = ObjectManager.derive(ExperimentalUIElement, "DerivedUIElement")

local testInstance = ObjectManager.new(test)

in this one all the static stuff would be handled in the ObjectManager

[thick karma]

I see. What if you wanted your own static class?

I mean honestly do you need a static class implementation? What's wrong with tables as containers for functions? It's... pretty much the same, no?

You could set custom permissions on your table and whatnot...

[drifting stump]

it was mostly about documentation and code completion

[thick karma]

For sure

[drifting stump]

so it would never show static methods when working on an instance

or vice versa

[thick karma]

Got it.

What about a flag above certain functions used by the code completion engine somehow?

I'm not sure how you're doing code completion, but could a simple comment-like flag above static functions suffice?

@static
@instance 

?

[drifting stump]

im just using vscode with sumneko lua server

and unfortunately it doesnt have something like that

[thick karma]

(Shit sorry Static)

[thick karma]

Damn because that would feel nice to me personally, if I were into code completion. Tbh I just survive on word completion by opening everything I'm working from lmao

It's really not THAT bad lmao

[sharp thicket]

Hi! Got a questoon isn't about modding, but I think you guys my best bet)
I would like to increase EXP multiplier on a specific skills which are pain to level, like Nimble, Strength, Fitness. But to keep other skills at default multiplier. Is there a config file with a variables for such things so I can just edit it to my liking?

[jovial harness]

There's a mod called Ultimate XP Tweaker or something like that. You can set multipliers as sandbox settings

[sharp thicket]

Yeah, I've seen this mod, but I figured it would be easier to just edit a few files... I run a dedicated server on my Debian VM and sandbox options are not pleasant to configure

[jovial harness]

I don't think there's a config file like that

[red tiger]

I had fun with this experiment making JS objects work like Lua tables

[humble oriole]

Can anyone give me a hand with Server/Client Commands?

function Recipe.OnCreate.eztTests(items, result, player)
    local args = player:getBodyDamage():IsInfected()

    sendServerCommand("junk", "sayStuff", player, args)
end```

```lua
local function onCommand(_module, _command, player, args)
    if args then
        player:Say("Shit, I'm infected.")
    else
        player:Say("Thank god, I'm not infected.")
    end
end

Events.OnServerCommand.Add(onCommand)```

[red tiger]

I wrote this JavaScript lol.

[fast galleon]

this seems obsolete the recipe function triggers on client, try doing it without command.

[humble oriole]

do I still need to reference the Module/Command variables?

Like, do I need to do if _module then [work]

[fast galleon]

just put it all into OnCreate funtion

[drifting stump]

I want to make a communication framework so bad but need to finish stuff before starting new ones

[humble oriole]

can't do say on the server side

[red tiger]

@drifting stump Dealing with the same funky logic that you did when trying to reinvent the class inheritance thing.

Trying to mimic the same behavior inside of a JS environment with roughly the same call structure.

[fast galleon]

Are you triggering somehow the recipe or is it vanilla?

[humble oriole]

I'm triggering it, right click "do recipe" that triggers the onCreate.

[fast galleon]

so it's client side, not server

[jaunty marten]

as I remember args in send commands accepts only table (even don't single simple value), it isn't?

[shrewd siren]

i fund some wired pills u can pour them into other

[drifting ore]

i can't help you like these guys can but this mod does something similar to what you are trying to do
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2697750877 , assuming you are just trying to make the player say something that relays outside of the local user

[jaunty marten]

some mod does that

[drifting ore]

lol isn't that vanilla usage?

[jaunty marten]

idk

[drifting ore]

think so

[jaunty marten]

don't remember when play vanilla pz last time

[drifting ore]

there is a mod that speeds up adding things to each other. but yea it's vanilla if you have them in your main inventory

[jaunty marten]

but I think vanilla have no this feature

[sharp kernel]

can someone help me with a mod? I am looking to change this so that i can adjust the amount of money you get for each item and also eliminate the ability to exchange clothes. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2933448776

[humble oriole]

I tried to move it into client and it won't call it anymore. I think OnCreate can only exist on server.

[shrewd siren]

on server some mods but admin says it is mods for respawning stuff itd

[drifting ore]

it depends on what it changed. if your mods changes anything vanilla, it will tag item with mod name

unless you turn that off

function ISChat:onCommandEntered()
    local command = ISChat.instance.textEntry:getText();
    local chat = ISChat.instance;

    ISChat.instance:unfocus();
    if not command or command == "" then
        return;
    end

    local commandProcessed = false;
    local chatCommand;
    local chatStreamName;
    for _, stream in ipairs(ISChat.allChatStreams) do
        chatCommand = nil;
        if luautils.stringStarts(command, stream.command) then
            chatCommand = stream.command;
        elseif stream.shortCommand and luautils.stringStarts(command, stream.shortCommand) then
            chatCommand = stream.shortCommand;
        end
        if chatCommand then
            if chat.currentTabID ~= stream.tabID then
                showWrongChatTabMessage(chat.currentTabID - 1, stream.tabID - 1, chatCommand); -- from one-based to zero-based
                commandProcessed = true;
                break;
            end
            chat.chatText.lastChatCommand = chatCommand;
            local originalCommand = command;
            command = string.sub(command, #chatCommand);
            if command ~= "" and command ~= " " then
                chat:logChatCommand(originalCommand);
            end
            chatStreamName = stream.name;
            break;
        end
    end
``` something like that

[shrewd siren]

sec i will check it in pure vanila

[jaunty marten]

only if edit exactly item

mod can just add context menu option

[red tiger]

My God.. I actually got JS code to mimic class constructors and declarations JUST LIKE Lua PZ code does.

[jaunty marten]

[red tiger]

Spooky code.

[jaunty marten]

good work (anyway won't use it )

[red tiger]

Umm how could you use it lol

It's an experiment to figure out a way to implement pseudo-classes from PZ code.

[fast galleon]

I'm not talking about the location of your file... I mean client side execution...

[humble oriole]

I guess I don't follow 😦

[shrewd siren]

Ummm mods are disabled

and u can stil pour pills

[dark wedge]

Restart your game. This is a vanilla lighting bug that can happen. Also, painkillers are defined as "drainable" items. You can consolidate pills together just like you can any other drainable. This is a vanilla feature.

[shrewd siren]

ok

but it is wired

[drifting stump]

cursed

brainless question

[jaunty marten]

I think u will do smth with that (u like to do crazy things) XD

[red tiger]

Yup.

[jovial harness]

It's a bird !

or is it a plane

[faint jewel]

is that a death animation?

[opal rivet]

How in the god damn did that Skeleton fly without falling apart?

I need answers

[humble oriole]

Is it possible to change the resulting item for a recipe through an OnCreate? I tried
result = InventoryItemFactory.CreateItem("ezt.ezt_used_pos") but that doesn't seem to be getting 'er done.

[humble oriole]

that'll just add both items, right?

[drifting ore]

it will add whatever items you define in additem

you can define more than just items here but yea it works for that

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Scripts_guide/Recipe_Script_Guide#Time

this is pretty good now

aiteron is still working on much of things but also some good updates

i think scripts done first

[humble oriole]

well, can I remove the resulting item during the OnCreate?

[drifting ore]

well you get player instance

so i'd think so

[ancient grail]

Using x lua and xml? 🙂

[humble oriole]

well, is the result in the player's inv after OnCreate or before

[opal rivet]

You're a wizard Glytch

[drifting ore]

you can still remove whatever should be generated

before you generate new item

[ancient grail]

Hmmm i should make a deathscythe some time

[red tiger]

I don't expect anyone to know what the heck I'm doing.

[ancient grail]

Im not. Lol credit goes to @dark wedge and @thick karma for teaching me stuff

[drifting ore]

getInventory():Remove(self.item)

[humble oriole]

so lua playerInv:DoRemoveItem(result) playerInv:addItem("ezt_used_pos")

[opal rivet]

Nice I'm glad they're lovely people

[opal rivet]

What are you doing?

[drifting ore]

yea that should work methinks

but just remove should be fine also

[red tiger]

I'm writing a 1:1 Lua to TypeScript transpiler.

[opal rivet]

I have no Idea what that is

[jaunty marten]

magic things

[opal rivet]

I see what sort?

[drifting ore]

also if you are using a custom module, you dont need to prefix, could cause issues.

assuming the item is from your own mod

[jaunty marten]

most interesting thing (for me personally, idk about someone else) is web engine for pz

[red tiger]

The quicker I get this transpiler working, the quicker that engine gets fleshed out.

The very basic test for it works right now.

[jaunty marten]

[opal rivet]

Me neither LOL I have never come in here a lot

So I don't know much

[ancient grail]

When i fly from ground zero then move up it works
I changed the flight animation from moving forward to just plain idle
Then just move the players xand y axis similar to fastmove

BUT when im on an open rooftop z1
Then i fly
As soon as i reaach the edge i fall animation

[jaunty marten]

then @red tiger is our savior

[ancient grail]

[red tiger]

Please don't fuel my ego. xD

[opal rivet]

I see

[drifting ore]

ahh because your state is still to floor probably

[jaunty marten]

ha-ha

[drifting ore]

i was so busy trying to figure out my stuff last night i missed your thing

[drifting stump]

is there any desire for this group of functions?

the static variants draw in the given position regardless of y and x scroll

[drifting ore]

did you end up trying to mess with ISFastTeleportMove.moveZ ?

it seems to somehow store what level you are at when using fast move

well not somehow, it's there

[faint jewel]

Jab is my E-son.

[drifting ore]

lol

[faint jewel]

he's e-dopted.

[fast galleon]

debug fast move sets the level on player update, that's my impression

[humble oriole]

@fast galleon my issue earlier was in the recipe onCreate instead of OnCreate

In other news, what name do you want me to use on my biofuels mod when I give you credit

[fast galleon]

he who shall not be named

[humble oriole]

🤦‍♂️

[fast galleon]

glad you figured it out btw

[humble oriole]

yea, I had to go back and do a print cause something wasn't right. Doing too many things at once right now, haha

[red tiger]

Write assert / sanity checks.

It'll save you.

[ancient grail]

Ye idk how to bypass that but to manipulate the fall animation

I did didnt work

[humble oriole]

Yea, it looks like the result is placed in your inv after the oncreate. Doing this still places both items in my inv.

        playerInv:Remove("ezt.ezt_used_neg")
        playerInv:AddItem("ezt.ezt_used_pos")```

Is there a way to completely remove the result I wonder?

[drifting ore]

by chance for fun. did you try to execute this after RemoveResultItem in the script itself?

never tried it but would be funny it is worked

try RemoveResultItem

in the script, prior to calling that?

not really sure how scripts work in that regard but i'd assume worked the same way. total non educated guess

maybe you get the new item and the result of the craft itself doesn't generate what was intended?

[humble oriole]

oh, you can put RemoveResultItem:true, directly in the script

[drifting ore]

will it stop the generation from your function though also is what i mean

[humble oriole]

From vanilla

    {
        [Recipe.GetItemTypes.RipClothing_Cotton],

        Result:RippedSheets,
        RemoveResultItem:true,
        InSameInventory:true,
        Sound:ClothesRipping,
        Time:100.0,
        AnimNode:RipSheets,
        OnCreate:Recipe.OnCreate.RipClothing,
        OnTest:Recipe.OnTest.IsWorn,
    }```

[humble oriole]

I'm doing an if/else so I can just add the result in the else

I'm curious about InSameInventory:true, now too, that might be applicable to other recipes I'm making.

[red tiger]

One day I will write mod tutorials..

[faint jewel]

and my menu

lol

[drifting ore]

[red tiger]

I'm stuck at a company lunch bro

Ugh

[gilded hawk]

Is there a way to use DoParam at run time?
Atm it looks like DoParam only works before you get in the game

[neon bronze]

Im pretty sure it works at run time, though youd need to respawn the item you alter

[gilded hawk]

Oh interesting, thank you

[gilded hawk]

It works, thank you

[drifting ore]

i also saw setCanPerform which i have 0 idea it's usage and dont see any other place it's used as well

but if OnCanPerform sets conditions prior to crafting, maybe it sets after?

it has string param so no idea

getCanPerform also so im sure it can be figured out based on whatever that returns i guess

i also see this

public void DoResult(String var1) {
      Recipe.Result var2 = new Recipe.Result();
      String[] var3;
      if (var1.contains("=")) {
         var3 = var1.split("=");
         var1 = var3[0].trim();
         var2.count = Integer.parseInt(var3[1].trim());
      }

      if (var1.contains(";")) {
         var3 = var1.split(";");
         var1 = var3[0].trim();
         var2.drainableCount = Integer.parseInt(var3[1].trim());
      }

      if (var1.contains(".")) {
         var2.type = var1.split("\\.")[1];
         var2.module = var1.split("\\.")[0];
      } else {
         var2.type = var1;
      }

      this.Result = var2;
   }
``` looks usable

at this rate there def has to be a way to do what you are trying. since you can see the result and change it

[humble oriole]

I'm assuming that setCanPerform is adding a CanPerform to the recipe via lua

[humble oriole]

    recipe Take Test
    {
        [Recipe.GetItemTypes.eztTests],
        Result: ezt_used_neg,
        RemoveResultItem:true,
        Time:200,
        OnCreate:Recipe.OnCreate.eztTests,
        OnGiveXP:Recipe.OnGiveXP.Medical15,
    }```

This worked btw

    if player:getBodyDamage():IsInfected() then
        player:Say("Shit, I'm infected.")
        playerInv:AddItem("ezt.ezt_used_pos")
    else
        player:Say("Thank god, I'm not infected.")
        playerInv:AddItem("ezt.ezt_used_neg")
    end```

[drifting ore]

ahhh sick!

glad to see you getting a W haha

another thing i thought of that might be dumb but for your zombie loot issue

if you just rebuilt the vanilla distro list containing zombies and remerged it with a condition attached, would that work?

like if your mod module detected then return after a certain point

i been trying to think of a way for it to work and since it wasn't working the way you mentioned, thought that might be a possibility

i tested it with my mod. i just put a condition for sandbox option that if it's set to 11 it just doesn't even run the addition to the table

or in your case true

dunno lol pains me to not know enough to have a clear way to handle that but 😄 fun time consuming stuff

[humble oriole]

it's crazy, cause the removeDistros function is vanilla, so it should work

[drifting ore]

totally agree lmao

pretty sure that would work if you REALLY wanted to figure it out though and no one has a better idea how to use the Vanilla function

i dont even think the vanilla z distro list is large at all and tbh you'd only need to actually remove the thing you dont want and leave that. and just make a separate function or something that just readds exactly how it would have based on conditions. i take back sandbox since you'd probably have a good reason for replacing the distro on them in the first place

[gilded hawk]

Is there a way to force certain items to respawn? 🤔
Like what if I want to force respawn all the Military helmets, in all players inventory, and in all containers?

[red tiger]

Errors. Errors everywhere.

[neon bronze]

Thats events on events hooks

[fast galleon]

hack the inventory page, if container has 0 military helmets then add helmet?

[drifting ore]

10/10 icon

[drifting ore]

so i been looking into metatables and how they work for trying to derive a class

this seems less complicated than what i was doing last night

siiiiick

[wet sandal]

Anyone know if there is a UI element for checkboxes? Can't seem to find it.

[ancient grail]

https://imgur.com/28XDEWK

[wet sandal]

Living up to the name I see

[drifting ore]

lol

you using this without or with cheat?

[ancient grail]

i still dont know how to do that z axis thing everythings still on z0

[drifting ore]

really

[ancient grail]

i cant make it work wiith z1

[drifting ore]

none of that stuff helped?

oh can't detect?

[ancient grail]

from z0 to z1 or z1 to z0

[wet sandal]

Was gonna say the flying is making me think of Dragonball, but alas, no Z

[drifting ore]

what did this return? player:getZ()

can't you detect and store that

does it not update without manual intervention?

no matter how you end up doing it, it's sick. but it's still interesting to me

[fast galleon]

ISTickBox

[ancient grail]

Its always z0

I need a way to climb up imight makean invisible stair

But only 2 directions idk what to do

[drifting ore]

why not control by keypress?

if you are flying anyways

[fast galleon]

level +1 would have a lot of nil squares, trying to move through that would be hell

[ancient grail]

The falling animation is bugged sometimes

[drifting ore]

i see

[ancient grail]

Ive fix that

The player isnt moving by walking its idle

[drifting ore]

if you are runnin on tick though to detect that z level

[ancient grail]

The movement comes from fast move pseudo

[ancient grail]

Its just animating not really setting the x yet

Z imean

Idk how it attacks too

Lol

[fast galleon]

did you see how that sets Z?

I remember it using on player update function

so that you don't fall

[drifting ore]

when i made that derived class i thought this was the point of that

NipFly.OnTick = function()
    local player = getPlayer()
    if player ~= nil and NipFly.currentZ ~= 0 then
        player:setZ(NipFly.currentZ)
        player:setLz(NipFly.currentZ)
    end
end

-- Add OnTick function to the OnTick event
Events.OnTick.Add(NipFly.OnTick)

at least it seems like it

just renamed vanilla after derive but this is how it's written

the way it's animated right now looks good though for how it's moving

Every time I learn something new, I find 10 more things that I have to learn to understand the new thing I learned... lol

[ancient grail]

The fast move already fixed you on a position so i can freely move the space
Byt the problem is when you are about to fall
Like from a building it wont work like as if you started on an empty tile

I think i need to check how the falling happens

Where is it triggered

[drifting ore]

ohh i see

you want to fly from any level without pressing anything?

so if you walk off edge it's just to flying

i somehow didn't grasp that earlier

[fast galleon]

that would most likely be handled by IsoPlayer update

[drifting ore]

is that related to the PlayerFallingState Class?

every time i think i understand how something is used, it's like used for the exact opposite somehow lol

[thick karma]

Uh did Steam just go down?

[opal rivet]

It tends to go down

[thick karma]

lol

[opal rivet]

I've had the same problem

[thick karma]

Ookay it's back

Weird

Wouldn't reload for a minute

[opal rivet]

There is a reason

Probably maintenance

[red tiger]

mmmmmm

Happy.

Wrote a working ArrayAdapter that detects tables used as arrays and translates them to literal arrays in TS. :D

[opal rivet]

What does it do Jab?

Because I'm code stupid

[red tiger]

It copies the logic of the Lua code and translates to TypeScript.

[opal rivet]

That's interesting

[red tiger]

I'm writing a 1:1 transpiler for Lua to TypeScript.

It's for PZ purposes.

[opal rivet]

Nice

Was it a lot a work for you?

Or was this quite simple for you

[drifting ore]

i am about to take off but thank you again. i did learn that using a metatable is way easier for my purpose also

[thick karma]

Ayyy

[drifting ore]

i still have a bit more to learn there obv but

haha

[thick karma]

You'll figure out what you need to know as it comes up

[red tiger]

The entire project has been around 8 months of active work.

[thick karma]

Good luck!

[drifting ore]

tyty

[opal rivet]

My god

You need a break my guy

That's a lot of work Jab

[red tiger]

Around 500-600 hours of work.

[opal rivet]

I hope you ain't too tired

[drifting ore]

Those are baby numbers, I put 2.1k Hours into unturned.

[red tiger]

It's worth it. People can save countless hours modding in TypeScript because of that work.

[drifting ore]

And no im not proud of that

[red tiger]

My main account from the first MP game I played as a kid has 40K hours.

That's the main account only.

[drifting ore]

Jesus Christ

[red tiger]

Most of it was spent modding for 15 years.

I've modded since 2003.

[drifting ore]

Just added that up, That's 1,600 days

[thick karma]

I'm sure with logged hours like that there were many AFK hours and accidental naps

[red tiger]

Probably like 5000 hours max of that.

I had other accounts which totalled like 10K hours.

[thick karma]

Still crazy

[humble oriole]

So, after looking through vanilla and a few other mods, I'm not not really sure why my distros aren't working, anyone have an idea?

[red tiger]

Also a non-central server I used for deving had like maybe 8K more IIRC.

Lost a lot of shit when that server vanished.. =(

I still hurt from that and it happened back in 07

[limber oar]

The nice thing about putting a ton of sandbox options in your mod is that you rarely have to deal with people asking you to tweak things to their liking.

The disadvantage is that the backend becomes so much messier...so many conditionals...and God help you if the conditions have branching sub-options... 😭

[limber oar]

I generally put my procedural and base distributions in two different files to mirror the vanilla file structure -- but I don't know if that would matter, since you're just inserting into the tables. Have you tried without the spacing?

[humble oriole]

I haven't, let me give that a shot

[thick karma]

I use functions for complex conditionals

If it's more than like 4 conditions, it gets a name.

Maybe 2 functions

Depends on sitch

[limber oar]

Yeah, so do I. The pain mostly comes from the fact that these particular options involve zombie clothing options, and because AFAIK you can't give a zombie an item to wear and keep it on w/o using outfits, that means every single tweak needs a new zombie outfit.

[thick karma]

Hmmm sounds rough...

[limber oar]

So a simple decision tree like:
Blazers or sailor?
2-button or 3-button blazer?
Ribbon style?
Ribbon color?

...generates an absolutely excruciating amount of outfits that then need to be handled... 🥹

[thick karma]

I see. How is an outfit defined?

[limber oar]

xml file

[thick karma]

Oof

[limber oar]

Yeeeeeeeeep.

[thick karma]

Not jealous of your modding goals

[limber oar]

It's one of those things where just slapping something together and getting it to work is easy enough -- so there's that, at least -- but trying to optimize it / make it readable / futureproof / etc. is just awful.

[humble oriole]

Still no dice

[limber oar]

Thhppt. I assume you did all the usual bonehead checks like made sure the path is good and the file is actually being loaded? Item names correct, etc.

Unless I'm missing something in front of my face the statements seem syntactically correct so I'm trying to think of other options.

[limber oar]

lowercase i in folder name

items instead of Items

Could be nothing, could be something?

[humble oriole]

I'm going to comment out the Suburbs Distro and try that

[limber oar]

Yeah, see if segregating them helps

[humble oriole]

I'm so confused

I need the module before the item name, right?

[limber oar]

Yep, yours looks exactly like mine.

[gilded hawk]

Does anyone still have the isClient isServer image of the table that shows the boolean values depending on SP/MP/Host?

[limber oar]

The only differences are:

• My files are segregated into module_Distributions.lua and module_ProceduralDistributions.lua
• My "items" folder is lowercase
• I don't require Distributions, just Suburbs and ProceduralDistributions

[weak sierra]

look at better tile picker

it has a fly feature already

[drifting stump]

isClient true for clients in multiplayer
isServer true for servers in multiplayer
both false for singleplayer

[gilded hawk]

Thank you.

[humble oriole]

yea, so, I made a copy of the mod and put it in the workshop folder. But never changed my working copy's mod ID so it wasn't reading any of my changes.

https://giphy.com/gifs/FilmRiot-death-suicide-kill-myslef-j5bvOonZJHkXbDBS5i

[thick karma]

At least you have a rocket launcher for situations like this.

Or a situation like this, perhaps. Probably won't need it for another.

[limber oar]

Knew it was gonna be something silly. :P

[red tiger]

Modding PZ is silliness.

[cosmic condor]

silliness is fun

[tacit tree]

So good news, Skizot was able to get my gun's model to appear in game. Now I'm having the following problems:

Can not 'rack gun' with X key
Can not equip on the back, like a rifle or long melee weapon.
Can not load a magazine (I specified the M16 magazine for now) because there is no option in the weapon's context menu
Can not attach reddot or any other attachments
Does not highlight a target when aimed at any distance
Does 0dmg or knockback when fired (with unlimited ammo cheat as test tool)
The rate of fire doesn't sound correct, it's a lot slower than .074 shot per second
No repair function in the item's context menu.

The code LOOKS right, but maybe you guys can find something I can't. Current iteration of the script.txt file.

I'll check back tomorrow as I'm getting tired now. Please DM me if you found something, feel free to test the code in your game if you are feeling froggy.

[ancient grail]

If its still the same like when i last used it i dont think its going to do any help. Ive seen the code before.

Thnx tho

[ancient grail]

Abt the rack thing
try racking it manually using lua console

If it doesnt do that then your gun has no rack feature

If it did but didnt show
Then the animation is missing

If it worked and it showed then the script is the problem

Or your own keybind could have the problem. To check try other guns

Hope this helps
Im not really familiar with guns stuff

but in general this will be the case

[ancient grail]

I wish everyone shares yours enthusiasm

[cosmic condor]

I actually burnt out and took a 4-month break. I've recently come back lol

[ancient grail]

[glass basalt]

I feel that. Your mods are quite unique and sophiscated from what I've seen and used, thank you for making them.

I made a silly mod for myself
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2933678076

[cosmic condor]

I'm glad to see that you were able to make your dream mods come true 🎉

I really had no idea what a pocket TV was 😹

[finite cedar]

Anyone know of a command for getting how many days since a server started?

I'm thinking it's getDaysSinceStart() but I noticed this is part of ZomboidRadio

so i'm wondering if this is the correct method

[glass basalt]

me neither. I just thought "I wish I could play the first week of PZ without returning to a TV every 4 minutes" and boom 😂

[glass basalt]

https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/Lua/LuaManager.GlobalObject.html#getGameTime()
https://projectzomboid.com/modding/zombie/Lua/LuaManager.GlobalObject.html#getGametimeTimestamp()
These are global methods. I'm not sure how they interact with multiplayer.

[finite cedar]

Thanks, i'll look into these!

[ancient grail]

    if getVariableis('bFalling') then
        setVariable('setbFalling', false)
    end

is this possible?

whats the proper syntax

any wizard i can summon? to help me with this part hehe

[cosmic condor]

they are sleeping lol

[drifting ore]

he spelled it wrong anyways lol

too busy testing his mod to fix it lol

isbFalling

isbFalling returns a boolean and setbFalling returns void with param of boolean

will they work though is the real question

If I sponsored a PZ Modding Codejam, would anyone join?

probably would be a gift card or however the winner is legally able to accept their prize

I see a ton of talent and thought it would be fun to see what people come up with, since there will be some vote of sorts from community. something like that. anyways I will for sure do it if it seems like enough people care. the more than are interested, the more i'd be down to offer as a prize

wouldn't be less than 50 USD value for anyone who cares

[cosmic condor]

that would be cool

I failed to submit for the map jam last year because I burnt out before finishing it lol

high expectations come with high pressure

[nova socket]

I would probably even without money prize set, but I'm too green to PZ modding to suffice even my ideas right now.

[drifting ore]

i'll preach to that 😄

[nova socket]

I'm still like trying to find a way to spawn vehicle and return it without sending a command to server.

[drifting ore]

all the super wizards are off and about lol

i'm attempting to create a context menu and sub menu that allows the player to change the strength of lights lol

[dark wedge]

I'm not sure what the getVariableis function is, but if you're trying to get this on a gamecharacter you can just check: character:isbFalling()
There's a setter too: character:setbFalling(bool)

[cosmic condor]

you really can't move on from the lights 😹

[ancient grail]

Thank you!
Hows the off hand mod

[dark wedge]

almost done

[drifting ore]

lol i decided that since my first lightswitch mod was just a tile replacement. i'm going to release this as an addon, but requiring the original

this is literally an entire overhaul of lightswitches

[cosmic condor]

the epitome of perfectionism

[drifting ore]

the way they works and their limitations haha

even adding battery connectors, or server owner can disable the feature

[ancient grail]

He will even add a function that if your electrical level is way too low you might get electrocuted
Like 20% chance
And and a 50:50% chance to die if you are not wearing rubber shoes lol

[drifting ore]

LOL

this is my first reali learning experience

[ancient grail]

See he might do it lol

[ancient grail]

Its beyond that

Lol

[drifting ore]

there is a shit ton of conditions in these babys

lol

[ancient grail]

You might want to centralize that

[drifting ore]

so many menu additions and removals and icons!!!

[cosmic condor]

I spend 30% of my time coding and 70% of my time editing workshop cover images

[dark wedge]

I partially gave up on some parts of this damn thing, as I've re-written the damage function like 3 times now and I'm tired. I mostly can't get zombie damage states to be consistent across MP because you can't easily get zombies by ID, any solution is kinda slow. So, I got a workaround to approximate the damage for the offhand. It gets it pretty close and I'm happy enough with it. I'll revisit it soon enough, but I kinda want to be done already.

[drifting ore]

honestly i am sure in it's current state is FAR above and beyond anything out there lol

[ancient grail]

How many days you guys think it might take for me to finish this mod?

[drifting ore]

lol 3

what is this mod anyways?

[ancient grail]

The flight

[drifting ore]

ahh

[ancient grail]

Ow it easnt me

Sorry

[dark wedge]

just the flight? then i'd say another day or 2. it seems to be working already.

[ancient grail]

Who r u talking to nippy

[drifting ore]

you haha

gonna do slingshot weapon for my next mod 😄 get back into modeling

wanna use it to make noise and knock zeds down and do like no damage

[ancient grail]

Idk abt the z axis part
Like how do i collide to the second floor then be teleported there and dont fly up cuz currently all of the things i have are just on z0

[drifting ore]

yea he's trying to find a way to have the game update the players z level. apparently no matter what floor you are on, the game recognizes you on 0

[dark wedge]

can you not just use character:setZ(1) or whatever? i'm not sure i understand

[nova socket]

same shit for workshop decription

[drifting ore]

from our conversation. he's essentially trying to walk off a roof top but not fall

since even when you climb, it doesn't seem to update the value for z level from that function

unless there is a different way it's called also when not using fast move