mod_development

[hot patrol]

[thick karma]

I'm confused... Not sure why it would work sometimes and not others

[hot patrol]

welcome to my world

[thick karma]

When do you call the code that initializes the ArrayList?

Wait errors are reported during gameplay right?

[hot patrol]

this persone got the errors preloading the map. I've never noticed the error playing with it

[thick karma]

Okay then yeah when do you populate that arraylist?

[hot patrol]

I have no idea. Where would I look?

lol this is why I get mods commisioned now. I am not cut out for this

[thick karma]

When do you call this

That code is populating your arraylist

[hot patrol]

If I had to guess. Whenever you load in an area with a viable double bed that can spawn the item. That is what the spawn pillow code is supposed to do

[thick karma]

I meant in your code

Is that arraylist simply declared in a file?

[hot patrol]

idk where to look but here is the whole thing

[hot patrol]

this is the array list

[thick karma]

You init DakimakuraWeapons here: local DakimakuraWeapons = require("DakimakuraList")... that initializes it and pulls it into DakiArmor

[lavish arch]

How do I translate a mod that doesn't have the "translate" folder in lua>shared?

[thick karma]

Someone will need to go into the code and implement a translation file

[hot patrol]

yea ok I see that.

[thick karma]

However this is not clarifying why it isn't loading for me... Are these files in the same mod folder?

[hot patrol]

yea

if not it would never work, no?

[lavish arch]

I understand, I thought I could create these folders as they did not exist in the mods

[thick karma]

Nah that require could grab from shared afaik

Or other mods entirely

[hot patrol]

oh well they are in the same mod folder

and yea that makes sense since my mod allows addons from others

So no other ideas what might be causing the issue?

[ancient grail]

DakimakuraWeapons = {}
for i=1, 30 do
local item = ("Dakimakura"..i)
table.insert(DakimakuraWeapons,item)
end

just trying if i can do the table not sure if mine will work tho

[sour island]

doesn't really matter if he uses an array or table

although it doesn't seem like using an array offers any benefits here

[hot patrol]

the array as far as i understand is so other people who choose to make addons that add their own dakimakra get put in the spawn list

[sour island]

you can do the same with a table

[hot patrol]

oh

[sour island]

Not a huge deal - just caught my eye as odd

that being said which line is causing issues? local item = ... ?

Are you able to recreate the error btw?

like personally?

[hot patrol]

this one

[hot patrol]

Haven'y had the chance to try but I play with this mod and everything seems to work fine for me. Pillows spawn and I haven't noticed errors.

[sour island]

btw

size() needs to be size()-1 ?

wait nvm ZombRand doesnt include n

[sour island]

If you can't recreate the error I'd ignore it

given you have the same mods as the guy

and try to do what he did with 'preloading'?

[hot patrol]

yea ive never even used a map preloader

[sand harbor]

Is there any easy way to set a vehicle's engine quality or loudness? I've only seen it done with the debug function which can only set quality to 100.

[sour island]

@jaunty marten I threw all the uielements under going my genericOpenPanel with these

local function genericRestoreLayout(self, name, layout)
    ISLayoutManager.DefaultRestoreWindow(self, layout)
end

local function genericSaveLayout(self, name, layout)
    ISLayoutManager.DefaultSaveWindow(self, layout)
    ISLayoutManager.SaveWindowVisible(self, layout)
end

Works like a charm, but I'm wondering would I be able to call on restore-layout to get them to be opened when the game boots?

Right now when you click on them they appear where you last moved them, even across sessions

[hot patrol]

@sour island I'm using the map loader the guy was using rn and so far no errors

so idk

[sour island]

yeah better to just ignore it tbh 😉

'I was not able to replicate these errors'

also the line with and item should prevent the error

[thorny garnet]

Is there a quick guide on rewriting/altering vanilla Lua?

[idle dawn]

I'm trying to figure out how to instantiate and place in world a new IsoObject. 😐

Reeeee

Been working on this for too long

[red tiger]

O/ @sour island

[red tiger]

Not that I know of

Am legit buzzed ATM. Thought I'd stop by and see what people are up to modding wise.

[thick karma]

If you are allowed to instantiate Java objects, the format in Lua is usually ClassName.new(parameters)

[idle dawn]

Been trying that methink.

Guessing that's not possible with lua?

[thorny garnet]

Say I'm trying to rewrite certain methods in ISFixGenerator.lua, I would copy/paste the original code into a file also called ISFixGenerator.lua (within lua\client), changing what I need - right? Or does this also need to be added to an event as well

[thick karma]

I'm not sure tbh haven't tried that with a simple IsoObject

I did it with a light source from javaside though and it worked fine

[idle dawn]

It's also hard to read the ingame debugger at times.

Spits out so much stuff.

[thick karma]

.new

[idle dawn]

I'll try that but I'm almost sure I did that already. Plus new is a method methink.

Or maybe it is a function.

hh

[sour island]

hey o7

[thick karma]

:new passes the stuff before : as self. You cannot send IsoTrap as self to its own constructor in Java.

[idle dawn]

Right.

[thick karma]

IsoTrap has two constructors:

IsoTrap(HandWeapon weapon, IsoCell cell, IsoGridSquare sq)
IsoTrap(IsoCell cell)

[idle dawn]

I'm almost certian I traid but y

[red tiger]

How are you?

[idle dawn]

Sorry I ran the debug scenario and instantly heard zombies. Grammar be damned.

[sour island]

Good, just chipping away at these debug tools. Mostly making vanilla UI behave more consistently 😅 - and finding ways to refactor stuff to work with less lines of code

[thick karma]

Are you getting an exception here?

[idle dawn]

Yeah.

[red tiger]

Nice. Glad to see you optimize

[sour island]

Someone asked for a viewer for java fields - so I might work on that

[thick karma]

You can expand the error window in F11 menu FYI @idle dawn

You should send a screenshot of the error

[red tiger]

Static fields are the only exposed fields in Lua

[sour island]

cough errorMagnifier cough

[idle dawn]

Let me try.

[sour island]

Oh? I wasn't aware - I was hoping to grab all the getters info with out having to type them all out

[idle dawn]

Something new is happening now with that change.

[red tiger]

Take that from someone who has to know when making the Typescript for PZ.

Yes

Static fields

[thick karma]

@idle dawn Chuck is trying to be helpful while also being humble https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2896041179

[sour island]

the getters are static fields? 🤔

[idle dawn]

Breakpoint isn't being hit, but player+zombie becomes invisible. there is an error though.

[thick karma]

He's not linking you because he made it, but it is awesome

[red tiger]

Anything else requires a getter setter

[idle dawn]

Thank you so much

Like I said hard to actually see the real error.

[sour island]

you have breakpoints?

[idle dawn]

It's set to break on error.

[thick karma]

So you are not getting an exception?

If you have it set to break on error and the game throws an exception in -debug mode, it will pause...

[idle dawn]

exactly why I say it's weird.

[rustic grove]

for anyone coming by later, the answer is that MyUI.instance = o; ended up being the one that properly tracked the instance of the window to check :isVisible(), properly referenced the window, etc. Thanks again albion!

[iron salmon]

I didn't read up on the discussion and will do shortly in case there's a nuance I am missing.

But no, taking a commission is not against the TOS. The owner of a mod can absolutely give away ownership as they see fit.

2.4. Commercialisation. Unless any arrangements to the contrary have been made with us, mod creators cannot sell access to a mod and/or mod content. Mod creators are permitted to work on commissioned mods provided such mods are not sold. Please see section 4 of the Terms & Conditions for more information on this.

Selling mods means selling it to players, i.e. a modder telling ***players ***"want to use my mod? pay me".
What it doesn't mean is paying someone to make (and maintain) the mod.

[sour island]

👍 There was some confusion regarding the 1:1 transaction being technically a private distribution

[idle dawn]

til modlist is in alphabetical order but lowercase is sorted under uppercase

reeeee

[sour island]

ye

chinese characters under that - but don't display

😄

That's why the older Change Sandbox Options appears at the end

[thick karma]

See Dec https://www.asciitable.com/

[idle dawn]

Yep

Also, the errorMagnifier isn't even showing up for it.

Shows in log.

[thick karma]

Want a real mindbork?

~ comes after everything but alphabetizes first in Windows explorer

It loads last (in alphabetical load sequences) and appears first

xP

[red tiger]

Thanks for clarifying this clause.

[iron salmon]

Nah, if A pays Modder B to make a mod exclusively for them, that's perfectly fine.
What A is not allowed to do is sell that mod to people, that's the only concern we're having. We're not out to deprave modders of commissions 😄

[thick karma]

When people in DND mode are typing, it looks so scary...

[iron salmon]

Impending DOOM

[thick karma]

nasKo's thoughts incoming in the color of a bloody battlefield

I don't know you but it just says fear you

[red tiger]

Thanks for clarifying further.

[idle dawn]

I've no idea on this.

[red tiger]

Thanks for keeping the door open for rewarding works for modders that makes player's who are willing to reward said modder to make their improved experience with PZ possible.

Fucking win in my book.

That makes it worth continuing to work on PZ for me.

[idle dawn]

Basically, once the code runs, no error on errormagnifier, and some objects visually dissappear like trees, player, zombies. They come back seemingly random soon. Errors look like they're popping up in the log on the bottom left.

But it's too much and they're not showing up anywhere else.

[sour island]

So there's no error?

[idle dawn]

Recorded it, one sec.

See how the trees and zombies flicker out?

And any "errors" are showing up in the console.

Not in F11 or errorMagnifier.

[sour island]

that's odd

[ancient grail]

Nasko used to do freelance works which us why he knows the struggle and all that crap..

[ancient grail]

Holy crap and that happens 100% of the time?
The. A horde will blind you lol

[idle dawn]

I usually make something easy when starting out modding.

Also I have a feeling I know what it is.

Even more funny @thick karma The game decides to do this after restarting a scenario without exiting the game.

One sec

Not doing it anymore. 😐

It did a spooky: "Mod is causing the game to die check the console exit to windows"

There it is. Only happens when I change maps after the above happens.

In game bsod

lmao

[thick karma]

You should post console.txt

[idle dawn]

zombie:getSquare():AddTileObject(trap)

Removed that and problem stopped.

[thick karma]

Oh I have an idea. Maybe since you never assigned a sprite or anything to the trap you created, it bugs out when it tries animating it.

You're getting a missing sprite error in your console in that video

[idle dawn]

ERROR: General     , 1674530090714> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: can't create player at x,y,z=10596,8818,0 because the square is null at IsoWorld.init line:2799.
ERROR: General     , 1674530090715> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: can't create player at x,y,z=10596,8818,0 because the square is null
    at zombie.iso.IsoWorld.init(IsoWorld.java:2799)
    at zombie.gameStates.GameLoadingState$1.runInner(GameLoadingState.java:268)
    at zombie.gameStates.GameLoadingState$1.run(GameLoadingState.java:225)
    at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
LOG  : General     , 1674530090715> LuaEventManager: adding unknown event "OnPreUIDraw"
LOG  : General     , 1674530090716> LuaEventManager: adding unknown event "OnPostUIDraw"
LOG  : General     , 1674530094081> EXITDEBUG: Core.quit 1
LOG  : General     , 1674530094081> EXITDEBUG: Core.quit 3
LOG  : General     , 1674530094085> EXITDEBUG: Core.quit 4

There's that.

And yeah lemme try.

I'm assuming the isometric map code just got killed by my code.

And it hit the bucket on new load.

[sour island]

can't create player at x,y,z=10596,8818,0 because the square is null

[idle dawn]

That's nowhere near my code luckily, and it's happening when it starts a new map after the above video happens.

[thick karma]

You can't load into the game now?

[idle dawn]

I can if I restart the game entirely.

[ancient grail]

This might be dumb cuz im sure its nots possible but what the heck ill ask anyways

Theres the
instanceof(obj, 'isoSomething')

I was wondering if you can do the reverse

Like directly ask what isoobj is this

Instead of if its thiskind the

[bronze yoke]

iirc you can but only in debug

i might be misremembering that though, i never messed with the debug-only reflection stuff

[ancient grail]

Ow ok .. cuz i was wondering
Why most functions
Gather stuff then filters em

Instead of choosing what to gather

If that makes sense

[sour island]

you can do type(object) unless I'm misunderstanding the question/request

[idle dawn]

He's trying to do the equivalent of ObjType = type(obj) // returns "isoSomething"

From the above he posted.

It's not it though afaik

[dark wedge]

You can kinda get this with:
object:getObjectName()
It doesn't use the same names as instanceof(), so IsoDoor will just be Door and such. can filter using that.

[sour island]

:getClass():getSimpleName()

gets 'IsoPlayer' from getPlayer():getClass():getSimpleName()

@ancient grail

[bronze yoke]

keep in mind this won't work outside of debug mode, so it's no good for anything except debug tools/testing

[finite cedar]

I'm trying to get the user to shout something & while it seems to display a message above their heads, it isn't in the shout text color + it doesn't seem to attract zombies, regardless of whether it is done via Say or SayShout

getPlayer():SayShout("This seems like the spot...")

Does anyone know the additional command that is necessary to attract zombies?

sorry for barging in like this I just had a quick question i'm sure someone's had to deal with before

[sour island]

oh? that sucks

[bronze yoke]

yeah, a couple of the reflection-y things are locked behind debug mode by the exposer

[astral dune]

calling Method objects or writing to Fields are debug only, is getClass() the problem here?

[bronze yoke]

i see code for exposing getName and getSimpleName only if debug mode is enabled

i imagine getClass() is always fine, but that none of its methods are exposed normally

(and those are the only two methods that are exposed even in debug mode)

[sour island]

            if (Core.bDebug) {
                try {
                    this.exposeMethod(Class.class, Class.class.getMethod("getName"), LuaManager.env);
                    this.exposeMethod(Class.class, Class.class.getMethod("getSimpleName"), LuaManager.env);
                } catch (NoSuchMethodException var3) {
                    var3.printStackTrace();
                }
            }

rip

I believe using tostring on an object returns the class name @ ref #

you could string manipulate it to remove everything after with the @

Might not look like it but this is what peak debugging looks like

All debug panels now undergo process that makes them save layout (position and if opened or not)

as well as changes their button behaviors to close open windows

going to make right clicking the button reset position and move onto another feature

if anyone has ideas feel free to share / post it on the github 👍

[idle dawn]

Having one more small issue.

local trap = IsoTrap.new(null, zombie:getCell(), zombie:getSquare())

Where null is, I have to grab an instance of a HandWeapon.

While it literally doesn't matter where or what, without it it won't work.

I can use the other constructor that only needs that zombie:getCell() part but trying to move it in place with AddTileObject(trap) is throwing errors.

Let me try again now that I fixed things up.

[finite cedar]

after searching through the code it seems like it was
AddWorldSound(getPlayer(),radius,volume);

no idea if this is in fact correct but it has the intended effect

[idle dawn]

God I

LOVE

This documentation

It's so detailed

N shit

I know exactly what n5 does.

Or what it is.

Probably volume.

Might also be able to do something like WorldSoundManager.instance.addSound(ObjectSource, X,Y,Z, Range, Volume)?

[ancient grail]

But why?

[bronze yoke]

it is only exposed in debug mode

[idle dawn]

Btw it works now.

Thanks for the assist guys. Understand this wacky modding better.

[ancient grail]

You can refer to one of my mods

It doesnt have a good audio which people complain ant it. But its a working model of what you are after https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879848416

[ancient grail]

I see

Thnx

[ancient grail]

Thats so godly

[idle dawn]

One better way is to delay the explosion just slightly.

So it looks like it's chaining between all zombies, and not doing it all the time.

Too late to record that but will post it tomorrow.

[ancient grail]

Or like call a thunder from above then explode

[idle dawn]

overscope.

[ancient grail]

Nyahaha

[idle dawn]

That being said, ngl, I might make some "special" zombie mods or something.

Where there's a small chance to spawn some absolute gamers.

[ancient grail]

That will be nice

[idle dawn]

personally, the one above would have to glow red and sizzle or some shit.

[ancient grail]

Overscope

[idle dawn]

I need some visual indicator either way.

[ancient grail]

🤔

[idle dawn]

And audio.

Else you get nuked around the corner.

[ancient grail]

The ground markers

Make em animate like large to small then boom

[idle dawn]

I saw some of the code and there's a few ways now that I know a lot of the java is accessible.

My issue is the lack of documentation, and the fact I have to flip flop between lua+java and dive into example code just to figure things out.

I genuinely might end up having to make my own.

To have a way to have everything in one.

Makes me also want to make a flamethrower.

Lmao

[ancient grail]

Most ssrver dont allow firespread tho

[idle dawn]

Because fire spread is OP for various reasons.

[bronze yoke]

honestly that sounds like a plus

flamethrower would be annoying as hell with fire spread

[idle dawn]

I don't know exactly how flame works.

But it's like a parasite. Every time it spreads, it attempts to split it's intensity to spread more.

The kicker is, you can simply just tweak the initial intensity.

And it shouldn't spread too much.

Other kicker?

Zombies that are lit on fire don't give a fuck.

And they take too little damage from it and it lasts so long.

They effectively are burning torches that simply set the ground on fire over and over with no ill regard.

That's my theory anyways.

[drifting ore]

pretty spot on

[idle dawn]

Nice.

Honestly, a mod or tweak to how long zombies are on fire for, (and damage to compensate), and maybe limiting intensity on the fire they spread themselves, might help.

Then some server variable to modify how much intensity lowers over time.

As long as zombie damage is consistent that would help wonders.

I'm actually not primarily a programmer, am a game designer. Have a degree and everything. Looking to join a studio atm actually.

So this sort of thing is quite literally my profession.

[drifting ore]

honestly. a lot of people focus on player related mods so it would be cool to see some zombie related ones. as much is there is some already. like the ideas

so many more good ideas to come to life yet

[idle dawn]

I've honestly wanted to focus on combat related ones. This game doesn't focus on combat, which is by design of course, but I had some brainstorming on another discord for a resident evil esque conversion.

I think the only two things were.

1: Like uhh... combat stance movespeed set minimum to nimble 4, and nimble affects some sort of dodge roll move.

2: Wesker runs around the map and if he finds you he immediately one shots you and "gibs" your body, all the items on you disappearing.

[sour island]

tostring(OBJECT):match('[^.]+$'):match("(.-)@")
```This will pull apart the tostring for object's classes - dependent on how tostring is defined in java though

[idle dawn]

And his theme song plays if he is anywhere remotely around.

Neat.

Imagination on pop culture is always fun.

Feel free to @ me for anything fam. Night.

[wet sandal]

I made Inventory Tetris' UI much prettier and pixel perfect.

Just need to figure out an equipment UI now...

[drifting ore]

that looks good dude

[humble oriole]

Has anyone seen this before?

WARN : General , 1674539805377> 46,873,619> MeshAssetManager.loadCallback> Failed to load asset: AssetPath{ "WorldItems/natojerrycan" }

    {
        mesh = WorldItems/natojerrycan,
        texture = WorldItems/natojerrycan,
        scale = 1,
    }```

    {
        DisplayCategory = VehicleMaintenance,
        Weight    =    1.6,
        Type    =    Normal,
        DisplayName    =    Empty Nato Jerry Can,
        Icon    =    20L_nato_jerrycan,
        SurvivalGear = TRUE,
        WorldStaticModel = NatoJerryCan_Ground,
        Tags = EmptyPetrol,
        ReplaceTypes = PetrolSource NatoJerryCan,
    }```

Exception thrown java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.io.IOException:

[sour island]

this looks sick 👍

I'd take notes from neoscav

could even make those grids smaller

[wet sandal]

Grid render settings are gonna be user settings

[sour island]

cool, but to clarify I meant the nxn

[wet sandal]

Oh like the grids themselves?

[sour island]

for more nuanced items, like bullets

yeah

[wet sandal]

Yea, they are definitely gonna shrink. I haven't finsihed stack support and equipped items still take space.
I'll shrink them once I resolve those problems.

[sour island]

In case you've never played neoscav

[wet sandal]

Micro grid

[sour island]

interesting

[wet sandal]

settings.TEXTURE_SIZE = 16;
settings.TEXTURE_PAD = 0;

Gonna have these in an options menu

Those are the micro settings lol, default is 32 / 4

[dark wedge]

Looks real nice. Will the available grid slots be hard-set for bags and whatnot, or will it dynamically grow as needed?

[wet sandal]

It will be set

I'm gonna see about making some bags "TARDIS"s, bigger on the inside.

Like, a medkit will be 2x2, but hold 5x5, but only take med items

Same idea for gun cases and stuff

To make this not a huge pain, double clicking a container will open a popup window for it, and you can drag and drop its items without needing to equip it

[dark wedge]

that makes sense. however, this might make looting very hard if bags are set in size, especially for the smaller items. the choice between keeping a paper clip or a pencil would become a real one. unless smaller items that just weigh about nothing are handled in a different way. like a "general pocket" or something

[wet sandal]

Without bags I don't want the player to be able to carry much. I guess the default pocket size can be a sandbox setting though.

[dark wedge]

i for sure support that part. I strongly dislike that we can go crazy on some zombies while "carrying" a few gallons of milk on our person. lol

[wet sandal]

Also the end goal has equipped items not taking up pocket space

So if you find, say a 4x4 item, you could equip it in your hands instead of a weapon.

So risk reward decisions if a player wants to be greedy

[dark wedge]

I definitely get that. However, there are a lot of just small items, especially if we include modded items, that are just really small but are useful. So, if i have a backpack that has 10 set slots but can carry 12 pounds, i can only put 10 small items in it that even if combined the items weigh a total of, say, 1 pound?

[wet sandal]

Good backpacks will probably be in the range of like 8x8

[thick karma]

I might have missed it, but in case nobody's explained this to you, the lack of doc and vaguely named variables is due to the fact that the code is decompiled. Not in its original state. Local variable names (e.g. param names) get lost.

[idle dawn]

O right

Compiling all of it in one page and place would help wonders imo.

Like I said might end up doing it.

[dark wedge]

I got you. I'll leave you to it then. ha

[wet sandal]

Its all future work, balancing the size of items and packs. But I'll make sure players can reasonably loot large amounts of small items. Its a valid concern.

Item stacking will probably play a roll too

[dark wedge]

item stacking will definitely help. possibly based on item weight or something, so you can stack 10 paper clips but only 2 cans of peas.

[wet sandal]

Ooooh

I was thinking, Stackable? Yes/No

Thats way better

[thick karma]

Does anyone have a guide for opening 16262 properly? P sure I tried following one but friend today told me he is still getting the warning about it being closed.

[cosmic condor]

do you have full control of your router?

[thick karma]

Yes

[drifting ore]

its udp

its always udp 😛

[cosmic condor]

Windows firewall / Antivirus Firewall / Router Port Forwarding with local IP check - what else?

[drifting ore]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2682141370\

i followed this and it worked np

made by devs

edit:Riko p much said it

[vague hedge]

Anyone got the id for the high visibility vest?

[cosmic condor]

Base.Vest_HighViz

[vague hedge]

Ty, never would have guessed it was Viz

[thick karma]

I'll double check all three later

[lilac ore]

Hey folks, modding for the first time here. I was looking into doing a small balance change for my first mod, but it turns out it's a bit more difficult than I expected.

I was looking to increase the effectiveness of Spare Engine Parts when repairing an Engine. It fixes like 1% of the engine atm and I wanted to put a 10x modifier on that so they repair more.
I noticed that vehiclesfixing.txt doesn't actually contain the Engine fixing requirements, and I thought that'd be the place to make the change, but I'm clearly wrong.

Where is this particular bit of code handled? How would I go about finding it?

[drifting ore]

okay i give up, dont care if anyone makes fun of the code, is using sandboxVars fora value in a DoParam arg not possible?

local bookItem = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Lightswitches_fordummies")
local player = getPlayer()
local bookLevel = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Booklevel
local skillLevel = bookItem:DoParam("SkillTrained = Electrical")
local isLevel = bookItem:DoParam("LvlSkillTrained = bookLevel")
local zapLevel = player:getPerkLevel(Perks.Electricity)
local correctLevel = zapLevel >= isLevel
function nipboxOptions()
    local pageLength = (60 * SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Pagelength)
    if bookItem then
        bookItem:DoParam("NumberOfPages = pageLength") else
        if pageLength == nil then
            pageLength = 8
        end
    end

was too lazy to cut out the locals from other functions

[solar zodiac]

Hey. Wanted to know if there's any documentation about the render engine out there.

[drifting ore]

there are some guides in general. one sec ill try to find big link

[drifting ore]

#mod_development message most of what is out there

[solar zodiac]

Thanks

[drifting ore]

np

[drifting ore]

fenris and mr bounty guide are good starting points and the libraries also helps because you can search thru decompiled code

also not sure about how to make engine parts more effective, but the code for taking engine parts can net you more engine parts per mechanic level and condition level of engine

[lilac ore]

That's a good way to look at it - instead of making engine parts more effective, make them more common. I could increase the spawn rate, that seems like it'd be easy. The part about getting more engine parts when dismantling an engine may take some digging to find, but good idea. Thanks.

[drifting ore]

function ISTakeEngineParts:perform()
    ISBaseTimedAction.perform(self)
    self.item:setJobDelta(0)
    local cond = self.part:getCondition();
    local skill = self.character:getPerkLevel(Perks.Mechanics) - self.vehicle:getScript():getEngineRepairLevel();
    local condForPart = math.max(20 - (skill), 5);
    local args = { vehicle = self.vehicle:getId(), skillLevel = skill }
    sendClientCommand(self.character, 'vehicle', 'takeEngineParts', args)

[ancient grail]

Make lots of parts
Gears tube pipes shafts cylinder belt etc

[drifting ore]

please halp, how do i use a sandboxVar inside of a DoParam?

as the value

[dark wedge]

You'll have to do it during an event like OnGameBoot or something. should be able to access Sandbox vars then

[drifting ore]

thats how i have it 😦

[dark wedge]

er, game start

[drifting ore]

Nipswitch = Nipswitch or {};
Nipswitch.Commands = Nipswitch.Commands or {};

local bookItem = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Lightswitches_fordummies")
local player = getPlayer()
local bookLevel = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Booklevel
local skillLevel = bookItem:DoParam("SkillTrained = Electrical")
local isLevel = bookItem:DoParam("LvlSkillTrained = bookLevel")
local zapLevel = player:getPerkLevel(Perks.Electricity)
local correctLevel = zapLevel >= isLevel
function nipboxOptions()
    local pageLength = (60 * SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Pagelength)
    if bookItem then
        bookItem:DoParam("NumberOfPages = pageLength") else
        if pageLength == nil then
            pageLength = 8
        end
    end
    local old_isValid = ISReadABook.isValid
    function ISReadABook:isValid()
        if bookItem and skillLevel and bookLevel >= zapLevel or player:getAlreadyReadBook():contains(player:getFullType()) then
            local txtRandom = ZombRand(3);
            if txtRandom == 0 then
                player:Say("You just don't get it...")
            elseif txtRandom == 1 then
                player:Say("You go cross-eyed when you try to read...")
            else
                player:Say("You feel like a complete potato...")
                return false
                player:forceStop()
            end
        elseif bookItem and skillLevel and bookLevel >= zapLevel then
            if bookLevel == nil then
                bookLevel = 8
            end
        end
    end
end
Events.OnGameBoot.Add(nipboxOptions)

don't mind the second function atm i'm not done lol but thats entire thing atm

[ancient grail]

What do you mean

[drifting ore]

as the value

[dark wedge]

you can do it during OnGameStart is what i meant. my bad

[ancient grail]

The problem is theres no event for when u click save on sandbox so you have to have another function that reloads the var

This is what @fast galleon and wre discussing

[drifting ore]

oh the hot update thingy

[ancient grail]

Ye but then she has to restart server everytime for the vars to take effect

You can make it everyhr i guess

But you know doparam only changes future instances right

[drifting ore]

i thought it just updated the same value from scripts

if you remove

like if i have no page length for my book? i do have failsafe number in place in case it doesnt get the sandbox but im going to have to figure out that event

and apparentl DoParam

lets be real. im actually clueless about way more than that 😄

[ancient grail]

local script = getScriptManager():Find('Katana')
If ticks % 1 then
script:DoParam('Icon = apple')
end
if ticks % 3 then
script:DoParam('Icon = orange')
end
if ticks % 5 then
script:DoParam('Icon = potato)
end```

Not sure but this could work on tick
Make the icon animate

[drifting ore]

lol i just want to set a variable page length via sandbox options

so you can set from 10 seconds to 10 mins

[ancient grail]

Yeah i know i just remember wanting to do something like this

[drifting ore]

that icon thing would be trippy lol

[ancient grail]

Yeah haha

Should be used for weeds

Weeds item

Lol iterate all the items snd make their icons jumbled up by random any other icon ingame

Imagine how broken your invontory would be

Probably a good negative trait mod

Ow its not going to work cuz everyone else will be affected

So its just another way to break the game

[drifting ore]

also i am reading back and i only see mention of how DoParam just overwrites the value permanently?

same effect as item script

[cosmic condor]

yes, for new items after activated the mod

[drifting ore]

time to test again lol

oh shit i got it so it wont let it use the item haha

sick

never though i'd figure that one out

[ancient grail]

Figured what out

[drifting ore]

well nothing anymore lol...... it's borked atm

it wasn't allowing me to read the book via context menu tho

supposed to check Perks.Electricity and if it's less than or equal to the sandbox option, it's supposed to trigger

[jaunty marten]

cool

[cosmic condor]

Neat https://thejaviertc.github.io/steam-workshop-stats/

[wet sandal]

Popout containers done!

[jaunty marten]

full container of keys will fill all cells? or are they dynamic?

[uncut meteor]

possible for a key to close all inventory container or left clicking in nothing could possibly do that please.
Because to much containers to close x)

[wet sandal]

There will be a hotkey to close the active popups. Closing the window the popups are from, or changing what container is being viewed in the main window, will also close them.

[wet sandal]

Containers will have limited space. The sizes seen here are not final.

[tight notch]

niiiice

[small topaz]

Is there a way to see how many items of a given type are present on the map? Or is the loot distribution not generated when the world starts but instead somehow "dynamically", while the players are exploring?

[ancient grail]

im trying to use sendclientcommand to change the animation of the playerr and make it visible for other too
my question is on the anim xmls can i use integer as a condition
so like instead of using boolean ill just input integers that represent diffrent action

there its currently working as booolean but what if i have number of possible states

[tame mulch]

I think you can use STRING and just put "1", "2", "3", etc

<m_Type>STRING</m_Type>

[tame mulch]

👍

[ancient grail]

Thank you thank you

[neon bronze]

how can you craft a moveable through a recipe or rather what do i have to parse as the result?

[faint jewel]

while that IS dope af. you are gonna run into the "bag of holding" issue. try not to let them hav stuff in bags at like layer 2 ish

[wet sandal]

The plan is for bags to take up as much space as they hold.
Special containers, like lunch boxes, gun cases, medkits will be bigger on the inside, but placing containers into them will be forbidden.

I haven't made the bags huge on the outside yet because it would impact testing too much until I get the equipment ui done

[faint jewel]

well i get that, but technically, you could collect small bag and infitie loop them into each other and still have room in each bag for stuff.

that happened in another game i worked on.

my record was 237 small backpacks inside each other.

[finite radish]

take a look at ISMoveableSpriteProps.OnDynamicMovableRecipe, should give you a good starting point

[neon bronze]

Thanks but i already figured it out

No idea if its correct but it works

🤷‍♂️

[wet sandal]

I don't really have an issue with that, the weight system is still in play.

[faint jewel]

well like i said, it LOOKS great, and i hope you do get them working right 🙂

just remember if users CAN abuse it, they WILL lol.

[sudden mauve]

When are yall gonna make the super ultra duppa omega incredibly amazingly rare loot chances mod? 😤😤😤

[neon bronze]

super ultra rare loot mod
Just deletes distributions

[wet sandal]

Loot this, you filthy casual

[ancient grail]

Was going to say the same thing

Then just have admins place loots

[sour island]

Zombies drop 1 tin can each, and you have to craft your way up

[ancient grail]

Lol

Where have you seen people carrying tin cans .. like all of em

[red tiger]

An XML schema would be useful for editors like VSCode to let you know what's supposed to be in a tag.

[ancient grail]

Thank you sir jab

[idle dawn]

I might make an xml style spread sheet of documentation if I do end up going for that project.

So it can be turned into a vscode linter.

Which would make things so much easier.

vsextensions though uaaaaa

[red tiger]

Go for it. I was eventually going to.

[eternal stirrup]

just finished this
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2922940329

[sour island]

I meant like a skyblock system - where it just arbitrarily needs stuff to keep going

Basically turn looting into grinding

Or better yet borrow the (please God change this) fraction system some furniture uses

Oh you found a sledgehammer? No it's sledgehammer (1/2), sucks you already found (1/2) and not (2/2).

This would be a pretty good April fool's mod 🤔

[vast nacelle]

Everything is split in to multiple pieces.
You need an IKEA manual for each item and a turning tool to assemble them.

[sour island]

Craft time scales to relevant skills as well

Truly a hard core experience, tarkov has nothing on this

[bronze yoke]

bookItem:DoParam("NumberOfPages = " .. pageLength)
also, you want this block

if pageLength == nil then
    pageLength = 8
end
```before the doparam, not after

and to get around sandbox options not being loaded i would do it on OnInitGlobalModData, not game boot or anything

[drifting ore]

haha did fix that part but it still not working for some reason

it's okay to use it that way though? with a local keyword for the arguement?

with the sandbox option

[bronze yoke]

yeah you can do that, many of my mods do it

[drifting ore]

okay i figured. i'll try that and see. i couldnt get the page number to update also after a couple of restarts. ill use your method like i did for loot . even tho i changed the code a little the method you gave me works well

i got the spawn rate at min to be .001 and at max to be 68%

thats about as perfect as it gets id say

[bronze yoke]

OnInitGlobalModData is usually the best event for sandbox option stuff, it's called after sandbox options are loaded but before most things get set in stone

[drifting ore]

that itempicker thing was neat also

i saw it working its little magic

i love visual feedback lol

thank you also. appreciate. hoping to get all these options done today. i think doing recipe material amounts has to be easier than these options

is the goal of forceStop() to cancel timed action? seemed like it but using it was inconsistent for me . i'll keep messing around with it either way for now

it def is... i wonder why it's being weird for me. just wanted to test it to see if i can stop any timed action using it. got a couple ideas with random text

[drifting ore]

im still getting this callframe error for improper usage of LvlSkillTrained

local isLevel = bookItem:DoParam ("LvlSkillTrained = bookLevel")

local bookLevel = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Booklevel which is an integer
isn't LvlSkillTrained the required level to use the book? or did i catch that wrong..

[sour island]

You're setting it to the string "bookLevel" that way

[drifting ore]

do i .. ? lol dammit im going to have to hit the lua manual

[sour island]

You'd want to concat the string with the intended value

[drifting ore]

ahhh alright

[sour island]

"variable = "..value

.. is like + for strings

You can concat strings and numbers onto strings

[drifting ore]

that makes sense. thank you man. here's hoping this is the light at the end

ooo

[sour island]

Can't use booleans without toString()

[drifting ore]

oh perfect im about to use a boolean here shortly too ty

really appreciate that insight

[sour island]

No problem

[ancient grail]

any idea how to add evolved items recipe using vanilla items

imean im currently speaking with saph and shes got this error and looking at her code ithink its cuz of the item tweaker

You can use doparam for evolve recipe right

[sour island]

doParam is exclusive to item scripts afaik

You can use recipe manager to manipulate recipes - I'm not sure about evolved

[bronze yoke]

evolved recipes are created from the item scripts

items define which recipes they go into, not the other way around - kind of weird

[drifting ore]

so if i wanted to use sandbox option to change the amount of each item to craft, i'd have to figure out a workaround through items?

page length working now also, whew

[sour island]

Ah, that's interesting

[ancient grail]

ayt so the thing is solved...
for discussion purposes heres what happened

--BaseItems
TweakItem("Base.Soysauce", "Tags", "Soysauce")

--Thermos
TweakItem("Coffee2", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:5")
TweakItem("Teabag2", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:5")
TweakItem("Sugar", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:1")
TweakItem("SugarBrown", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:1")
TweakItem("SugarPacket", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:1")
TweakItem("CocoaPowder", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:1")
TweakItem("CannedMilkOpen", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("Milk", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.AlmondMilk", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.PopbottlewithMilk", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.BottlewithMilk", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.ColaBottlewithMilk", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.ColaBottlewithProteinShake", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.BleachBottlewithProteinShake", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")
TweakItem("SapphCooking.PopBottlewithProteinShake", "EvolvedRecipe", "SapphCooking.ThermosBeverage:2")

thats her original code

local Script = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.RedRadish")
Script:DoParam("EvolvedRecipe = Soup:3;Stew:3;Stir fry Griddle Pan:3;Stir fry:3;Burger:3;Salad:3;Roasted Vegetables:3;YOURITEM:int")

we modified it
by doin this instead

sharing it here so other modders that encounter the need to modify evolved recipe can do this method

this is what i learned from the great albion
DoParam

[drifting ore]

this is exactly what i'm looking for so thank you

[ancient grail]

Sorry i didnt know you needed the same thing

[drifting ore]

no worries! i'm working on a slew of sandbox options so it changes as the days go on lol

[finite radish]

has anyone tried reading binary with the BufferedReader returned by getFileReader()? kinda curious if the call from Lua would mangle it or not

i don't have a specific use case in mind, just curious

[ancient grail]

Thats useful

Sorta likr erosion

[zinc pilot]

hey, does anyone know how high is the overhead when having the -debug mode on?

[ancient grail]

Whats the overhead

[zinc pilot]

as in, how much it slows down things

[drifting ore]

Not much just for running in debug

If you are having performance issues. The difference between debug and not, will not be your fix

[zinc pilot]

it's mostly for benching to subtract the difference in a more meaningful way

[drifting ore]

Ahh fair enough. It shouldn’t make a drastic difference

[gritty remnant]

Hey if I wanted to create a mod that teleports someone after they right click on an object to another location. How would i go about doing that?

[zinc pilot]

I mean, this isn't that drastic of a difference as I'm making out to be, but still

[drifting ore]

There are a few mods you can find as an example Wilson

Like bus ticket. Interiors. Basements

[gritty remnant]

I looked at some of them but it didn't really help me out. Do you have any specific mods I can look at to get reference.

[jaunty marten]

if u want to bench 2 or more functions then u just want to know which func is faster so doesn't matter even if debug is a bit worse than debug-off cos ur benchmark tests will in same condition

[drifting ore]

Those are names of mods on workshop

[zinc pilot]

true that, but I'm mostly testing for stutters more than average performance

and I can't really account for how and when a stutter because of something random will occur

[jaunty marten]

wdym?

[zinc pilot]

during normal gameplay, some stutters can occur even on vanilla, I guess when some stuff is not cached

[gritty remnant]

If I wanted to change as an example the Bus Ticket to an actual object how would I go about doing that. Without having to use an item

[drifting ore]

It’s map pao

[zinc pilot]

now I'm testing a mod that changes stuff during the generation of the world

[drifting ore]

Save chunks

[zinc pilot]

thank you

[jaunty marten]

in vanilla code 90% not optimized one

[drifting ore]

Lol

[jaunty marten]

like this XD

[zinc pilot]

still, that's what I was asking, if debug added some overhead over it inducing more stutters

[zinc pilot]

yeah ew

[drifting ore]

just use basements as your reference then because it does exactly what you are asking

[gritty remnant]

Goodi.

[drifting ore]

it's well documented on its usage as well i just seen

[jaunty marten]

I remembered one thing that might be useful for someone
*however, I am not certain if this is the same for kahlua
https://gitspartv.github.io/LuaJIT-Benchmarks/

[neon bronze]

This gives me the yanderedev elseifs vibes

[heady crystal]

That's vanilla?

[jaunty marten]

yeah

[heady crystal]

Mein gott

Just.... why

[jaunty marten]

legacy code ha-ha

[heady crystal]

I am pretty sure that as bad as LUA is you can do a simple for loop

[jaunty marten]

it can be done by 1 line and 1 function

they have self created function perk:getTotalXpForLevel()

[heady crystal]

LMAO

[jaunty marten]

so just prev level exp = perk:getTotalXpForLevel(level - 1)

idk XD

[heady crystal]

ahahah

PZ moment

[jaunty marten]

[dusk chasm]

Not sure where to ask, post ignored in main channel. I'll try here.

Any opinions on best map mods that seems most balanced? Also crafting and item mods ? Looking for more depth..like mods that could add resource mining for metals like copper etc, smelting, manufacturing metal weapons.. or even mods that just add more weapon variety to loot tables?

[heady crystal]

I think Firearms B41 or something like this is well regarded as a mod that adds extra guns while being balanced

[dusk chasm]

Anything for melee?

Cousin will love that one. Heh.

[jaunty marten]

more positive feedbacks on mod page > good mod
so just search by any words and check feedbacks

map/craft/crafting/tools/metalworking/firearms and etc

[dusk chasm]

Fair enough guess I'll just try a few random ones with good feedback. 🙏

[jaunty marten]

👍

[finite radish]

my process tends to go like this for a game I'm not familiar with:

• find very popular, highly acclaimed mod that I think I'll like from the sounds of it, or that I've tried and know that I like
• click the button that says "in X collections" on the right side
• sort collections by popularity
• pick through any number of collections to find mods that seem similar in quality or that seem like they create the kind of gameplay i wanna have

tl;dr someone has probably already done a lot of the heavy lifting for you in the form of a collection, just piggyback off of their efforts and tweak as needed

[dusk chasm]

@finite radish oooh thanks never knew about the collections button 👍

[sour island]

Anything related to characters and or old enough has some less than ideal stuff - but if it works it works

I'm looking forward to the polish update

[finite cedar]

Does anyone know if zpopSpawnNow() respects all player's locations in a chunk

I know it safely spawns zombies inside a chunk around the person that called it in debug mode but I was just wondering if it will spawn zombies on other players by accident

[jaunty marten]

but works poorly

[jaunty marten]

btw 4 days before played in mp with my friend we ran along the road and game spawned zombie exactly on our position > death in 0.1 sec what the fuk...

[sour island]

Yeah, there's a section in addXP that is a giant if or which could be if category = combat or = aiming instead it's if blade if blunt if stab if if if

My guess is it was an old thing changed or in progress work that got pushed to the back burner

Same for the XP if chains

[jaunty marten]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sour island]

Yep

I think the UI stuff creating new instances without needing to is probably something worth tracking down

I haven't checked the rest of the UI but debug stuff is pretty bad for that

But debug stuff isn't really a priority to optimize either 🤷‍♂️

[drifting ore]

when i lowered the spawn rate i received an exponent and the % is def not 5%. anyone have experience, as long as it shows, even if showing as exponent, it's correct? guess i could kill a crap ton of zombies to see if it still spawns

i lowered the roll from .001 to .0001 and it went from .01% to this

[sour island]

That's scientific notation

That number is really really small

[drifting ore]

so even though its showing 5% you think it's just not right

i'm guessing it's like a tens of thousands decimal

[sour island]

It's not showing 5%

[drifting ore]

5.030429209432094

[sour island]

Note the E

[drifting ore]

doesnt exponent just mean there is tons more numbers

to the power of

[sour island]

0.00005

It's E -5

[drifting ore]

ahhhhh well thats exactly what i want

[sour island]

5 to the power of -5

[drifting ore]

i totally missed the -

derp

okay thanks man. this is really good

[sour island]

No worries, not something you'd know as common - the scientific notation that is

[drifting ore]

time to kill 500 zombies and see the chance and if this roll is just a facade lol

[sour island]

If you spawn with no zombies in the world the loot chance goes up by 40% if Im not mistaken

[drifting ore]

oh wow. so if i play with 6x pop then... lol

typically my standard

[sour island]

I think higher pop is more loot? But no zombies changes the formula

I could be wrong as the math gets thrown around a bit

[drifting ore]

yea for sure. nothing some testing cant clear up

thanks for that lol thats actually good ass info

[odd notch]

lua needs switch statements

congrats on making the mod!!

i saw it pop up in a different channel being sung praise

[red tiger]

Typescript has switch tables.

[odd notch]

switch... tables..........

[red tiger]

const vitamin: string = "A";

switch(vitamin.toLowerCase()) {
  case "a":
    console.log("Spinach, Carrots, Sweet Potatoes, Mango");
    break;
  case "b":
    console.log("Meat, Fish, Milk, Cheese, Eggs.");
    break;
  case "c":
    console.log("Oranges, Kiwi, Lemon, Strawberries, Tomatoes");
    break;
  default:
    console.log("No sources available.");
    break;
}

Switch tables.

[jaunty marten]

for lua can do it

local op = {
[1] = ...,
[2] = ...,
...
}
op[any_key]

[red tiger]

Lookup table.

Lua is fun.

[jaunty marten]

lua is powerful

[red tiger]

Lua is wieldy.

[jaunty marten]

[drifting ore]

lua is life

[red tiger]

[jaunty marten]

btw idk why in ur typescript guide said lua have no oop, in my mind metatables is good for it

[red tiger]

You need to apply OOP. It is not provided out of the box.

You can absolutely write OOP Lua.

I did this for many years while PipeWrench wasn't a thing.

[jaunty marten]

so there's oop

[red tiger]

No. It's implementable, not implemented.

[jaunty marten]

🥺

[red tiger]

metatable is basically prototype from JS, ignoring the nuance.

Lua acts a lot like ES5 JavaScript conventions.

[jaunty marten]

nah, anyway u can create oop so it's fine

[red tiger]

This I'd recommend for the smaller projects for sure.

You don't need Typescript to do simple mod works.

If you're writing an API or framework of sorts, I'd recommend TS over Lua.

Since I almost always write utilities that scales, I'd need TS probably more than anyone.

At least I'm realistic about how I market my stuff. xD

[jaunty marten]

but for pz u can't run exactly ts cos as Ik u anyway re-comp it to lua, it isn't?

[red tiger]

You compile to Lua using TSTL with my solution.

[jaunty marten]

so on output it's lua anyway

[red tiger]

They provide a conversions / operations library alongside the compilation of their own OOP implementation with Lua.

[jaunty marten]

exactly for pz don't see any reason to use ts only if u originally ts developer and it's easier for u

[red tiger]

As a note, I'm writing my nifty little HTML project in TS because it obviously needs to keep a consistent design.

[red tiger]

I'd openly recommend, support, and even help the devs if say they used Typescript to rewrite their ISUI library.

Oh you meant a TS dev in general.

I am one btw.

[jaunty marten]

oh

then yea

[red tiger]

People do struggle with Lua and functional design.. I've had C# and Java heads come through and use TS.

[jaunty marten]

I got why u using ts instead lua

[red tiger]

"Having options" is the ultimate goal.. not specific options. =)

[jaunty marten]

didn't work with ts but I think with ts it's much easier to code than on lua

if to select between them

[red tiger]

It's nice to have a compiler layer to yell at you when you do something wrong or the API updates with PZ and the call errors out. (You won't waste time figuring out where and what changed)

[jaunty marten]

due to code structure

[jaunty marten]

AH, yea

I forgot about it

[red tiger]

This is the biggest win for me if I were to win myself over with TS.

[jaunty marten]

for pz it's crazy thing

[red tiger]

That and docs.

I had the silly idea of implementing an entire Electron app designed to write out JSON data for baking in third-party documentation for missing documentation in PZ API.

Got that all working.. but never announced it. xD

50-60 hours of work gathering dust.

[jaunty marten]

sounds cool

[red tiger]

Looks like this.

[jaunty marten]

wow

👍 x3

mb I'll do same thing for lua cos it's really speed up modding by several times

already have some ideas for it but sadly can't spend time for it yet

when u have a few projects and can't select which of it to do it's killing

[red tiger]

You can use my common document JSON format.

[jaunty marten]

mb will be easier to create clone of me to create other projects..

[jaunty marten]

sure it will be done by json way

[red tiger]

Yeah I'll need to write the schema for it.

[red tiger]

https://github.com/asledgehammer/PipeWrench-Models/blob/master/lua/client/ISUI/ISUIElement.json

Here's my current example.

[stone garden]

still waiting to someone make my mod idea happen

im waiting for like 1 months or more

[jaunty marten]

what's the idea?

[stone garden]

i will tell in dm

[finite radish]

why don't you make it yourself, then?

[stone garden]

because im alot busy

[jaunty marten]

yea, yea

[stone garden]

my idea is simple

not to make but mechanics

[drifting ore]

why not just post it public. lol

[zinc pilot]

ooh where?

[proud marsh]

I'm probably not the first to suggest it, but it would be amazing if there was a mod that adds the clickers from the last of us to zomboid, with their respective characteristics of being blind, with great hearing and super strong.
I leave the idea here but surely it is not the first time that someone suggests it

[odd notch]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2789150859

best to search the workshop before giving up hope :D

[proud marsh]

wow honestly i searched a lot and found nothing about it.
thank you

[zinc pilot]

is there a guide on how to add custom sounds?

[idle dawn]

Anyone made a speedhacker zombies mod yet?

Where they animate like 3 times faster and just ZWOOP to their destination?

[jaunty marten]

as I remember Chuck said there's no way to do zombies faster than runners

[tardy basin]

does anyone have any idea how one would go about adding hand pain to swinging long blunt weapons e.g Baseball bats?

[jaunty marten]

u can to slow them but don't faster

[jaunty marten]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/OnWeaponSwing

[tardy basin]

thanks

[jaunty marten]

[idle dawn]

You guys are gonna make me take on this challenge, especially if Chuck is someone good.

[faint jewel]

He is

[jaunty marten]

he is good

just the image to don't ping him heh

[astral dune]

extremely bizarre to expect some random person here to make your mod for you for no reason. Especially when you try to keep what the idea is secret for some reason. Thats all I'm gonna say cuz I'm busy and passive aggressive

(obvs not talking about thegandalf)

[golden sparrow]

I don't understand, I have this server side

And this client side

But it doesn't print the receive part, i'm in single player it driving me crazy

[jaunty marten]

u sending servercommand from client

u have to send clientcommand

and receive clientcommand too

[golden sparrow]

I'm sending servercommand from server

[jaunty marten]

whoops

[bronze yoke]

in singleplayer, for these purposes, it is considered only a server

[jaunty marten]

sec will think then

[bronze yoke]

it's a little frustrating really

[golden sparrow]

Does it mean servercommand don't work in SP ?

[rustic radish]

Anyone know where the descriptions for professions come from? Like when you make a character and it gives the the stats like "+2 Cooking" and also a short description?

I have a profession working right now, it has a working icon, it actually gives the stats I assigned and free traits, but the description is totally blank

[jaunty marten]

u in sp? u need to send command in mp. is sp u is the server and have 1 realm for all

[golden sparrow]

it seems send client command work tho

[jaunty marten]

u can use it to check realm #mod_development message

[bronze yoke]

it's still annoying that client commands do work, and server commands don't: ideally you wouldn't have to write different code for singleplayer

[golden sparrow]

Okk ty

[jaunty marten]

if sp just do it, if mp send to client/server and just do it there

[ruby urchin]

increasing the animation speed should enough via AnimSets

[zinc pilot]

random question, how much faster is running a local func compared to a global one?

[jaunty marten]

I'm not sure about kahlua but in pure lua 5.1 is x1.1 faster

[rustic radish]

Figured it out, you can do it in the lua via the "setDescription" method

[zinc pilot]

oh right it's a different flavour of lua

[red tiger]

Tempting to go into Kahlua and improve it lol

(again)

[bronze yoke]

it wasn't really a scientific test, but i tried some of my code with all used functions pulled into local against my normal code and i found about 20% faster

[zinc pilot]

that's not bad at all

[bronze yoke]

if your code runs a lot i strongly recommend it

[thorny garnet]

I'm trying to rewrite generator repair functions to allow repairs to greater than 100 condition. Changing generators' initial condition was fairly easy but holy crap I'm out of my league with overriding vanilla functions. https://github.com/genchadt/improvedgeneratorlongevity/tree/alpha/improvedgeneratorlongevity/Contents/mods/improvedgeneratorlongevity/media/lua/client

Gonna leave this up and hope for someone with a bigger brain to critique because mine is exhausted 😩

[bronze yoke]

your timed action is derived from the original? don't you want to override it?

[drifting ore]

Hello there
I need to change the radius of pipebombs in game to one cell, and I need it to work in multiplayer, could someone help me maybe?

[jaunty marten]

local t = type

t()
-- faster x1.1 than
type()

local string_format = string.format

string_format()
-- faster x1.2 than
string.format()

[zinc pilot]

even just referencing standard methods help?

[jaunty marten]

wdym?

[bronze yoke]

nothing special about standard lib, it's all global

[zinc pilot]

mh

[bronze yoke]

so pulling it into local is faster

[zinc pilot]

coming from "normal" compiled languages this seems so unconventional

but I guess it makes sense

[jaunty marten]

btw local string_format = string.format "greedy local" way is not always better exactly for big file cos lua have limit for local variable and in big file with much localized vars u can beat this limit

[bronze yoke]

the biggest problem i foresee with this is that you can't give a generator more than 100 condition even if you change the lua

the java setCondition() will limit it anyway

[zinc pilot]

just rewrite IsoGenerator

ez

[thorny garnet]

The game seems to allow 100 condition as I've run my mod before to set gennies to 200

They show up in-game as 200 condition and run down from there, but as soon as I attempt to repair them they reset to 100 :/

So that tracks I suppose. Thanks for saving me more headaches from this. Hopefully the devs will add a feature to change genny longevity as they have done with lightbulbs

[jaunty marten]

error

local aa,ab,ac,ad,ae,af,ag,ah,ai,aj,ak,al,am,an,ao,ap,aq,ar,as,at,au,av,aw,ax,ay,az,ba,bb,bc,bd,be,bf,bg,bh,bi,bj,bk,bl,bm,bn,bo,bp,bq,br,bs,bt,bu,bv,bw,bx,by,bz,ca,cb,cc,cd,ce,cf,cg,ch,ci,cj,ck,cl,cm,cn,co,cp,cq,cr,cs,ct,cu,cv,cw,cx,cy,cz,da,db,dc,dd,de,df,dg,dh,di,dj,dk,dl,dm,dn,dp,dq,dr,ds,dt,du,dv,dw,dx,dy,dz,ea,eb,ec,ed,ee,ef,eg,eh,ei,ej,ek,el,em,en,eo,ep,eq,er,es,et,eu,ev,ew,ex,ey,ez,fa,fb,fc,fd,fe,ff,fg,fh,fi,fj,fk,fl,fm,fn,fo,fp,fq,fr,fs,ft,fu,fv,fw,fx,fy,fz,ga,gb,gc,gd,ge,gf,gg,gh,gi,gj,gk,gl,gm,gn,go,gp,gq,gr,gs,gt,gu,gv,gw,gx,gy,gz,ha,hb,hc,hd,he,hf,hg,hh,hi,hj,hk,hl,hm,hn,ho,hp,hq,hr,hs,ht

[red tiger]

The fact that programmers here know these nuances with Kahlua makes it worth randomly popping in and reading chat.

[red tiger]

max locals in a lua file is 200 or 256

Can't remember.

[jaunty marten]

200

[zinc pilot]

per single file?

[jaunty marten]

yes

[red tiger]

Per lua unit yeah

I think loadstring() operates the same as a file in that limit.

I like this limit because you shouldn't ever need 200 variables in one unit.

[jaunty marten]

I think without any manipulation it can depends on OS but not sure

[red tiger]

It's a real Lua thing. (I'm sure you of the people here know this one)

I wouldn't touch it.

I'd make it 100 tbh.

[bronze yoke]

yeah, 200 locals in the same scope sounds like you're not doing things right

[red tiger]

(My rule is that if a Java file is over 1000 lines long without documentation or over 2000-2500 lines with full documentation, it's too large and has to be divided up)

[jaunty marten]

brita's weapon in single file with all functions greedy localized

[red tiger]

I'd have a field-day with classes like GlobalObject and GameServer.java xD

[bronze yoke]

i think having more files looks cool LOL

that's why i do it... it definitely makes things more readable but i just think it's cool

[zinc pilot]

what's the meaning of "greedy locals"? I'm not sure I understand

[bronze yoke]

i don't work on a scale for it to matter too much anyway

[jaunty marten]

local string = string
string.format()

-- greedy way
local string_format = string.format
string_format()

it's greedy cos with first way u can local only string global table but with second one u need to cache each function that u will use

1 local < 1+ locals

[zinc pilot]

isn't that a better approach if you're gonna use that func frequently?

I mean, for performance

[jaunty marten]

better performance with greedy way

[zinc pilot]

but messier

[jaunty marten]

as I said problem is 200 limit of local vars but it's not real problem cos idk when u will have more than 200 locals in single file

so better always do second way

u can to local class methods too

local item_base = getmetatable(InventoryItem.class).__index
local item_getName = item_base.getName

item_getName(item) instead item:getName()

[bronze yoke]

there's a getmetatable 😟

[jaunty marten]

sure

[bronze yoke]

i didn't know and wrote my own :(

[jaunty marten]

XD

[jaunty marten]

?

getmetatable = function(class) return __classmetatables[class] end

or did you do smth else?

[bronze yoke]

it took class name as a string

so like
local IsoPlayer = Starlit.getMetatable('IsoPlayer')

[jaunty marten]

what's the source?

[jaunty marten]

like it?

[bronze yoke]

sorta

[jaunty marten]

he-he

if arg is string then better to name findMetatable I think

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bronze yoke]

sure, best to rename it anyway if there's already one

[jaunty marten]

[shadow lynx]

Hello all, I have a question - is it possible to write a mod that skips the main screen and immediately starts a single mode?

[idle dawn]

SP only runs server+shared?

That means UI stuff needs to be in shared. 😐

[bronze yoke]

sp runs all

[idle dawn]

Oh

[jaunty marten]

and sp and mp runs all folders

in mp client won't run server folder as Ik

but server will run client one

correct me if I'm wrong

[bronze yoke]

client and singleplayer runs all three folders, server runs shared and server only

[jaunty marten]

is it? why I remember server runs every folder

huh

[drifting ore]

i'm stumped. i'm trying to get the current electrical level
using ```
getPlayer():getPerkLevel(Perks.Electricity)

am i using this wrong?

[bronze yoke]

that looks right

[drifting ore]

okay it must be the way im using it i guess lol

i tried using your method of global overwrite or psuedo overwrite or however and i couldnt get it working

so then i went even crazier

for book context menu

local bookItem = ScriptManager.instance:getItem("Base.Lightswitches_fordummies")
local player = getPlayer()
local bookLevel = SandboxVars.Nipswitch.Booklevel
local zapLevel = player:getPerkLevel(Perks.Electricity)
local lowLevel = "bookLevel <="..zapLevel
local goodlevel = "bookLevel >="..zapLevel
local menus = {
    player.invMenu.context:addOption(getText("You just don't getit..."+self.invMenu, nil )),
    player.invMenu.context:addOption(getText("You go cross-eyed when you try to read..."+self.invMenu, nil )),
    player.invMenu.context:addOption(getText("You feel like a complete potato..."+self.invMenu, nil ))
}

if lowLevel or player:getAlreadyReadBook():contains(player:getFullType()) then
    local txtRandom = ZombRand(3);
    local selectedMenu = menus[txtRandom + 1]
    selectedMenu()
    for _, menu in pairs(menus) do
        menu.notAvailable = true
    end
    selectedMenu.notAvailable = false
end

if goodlevel then
    for _, menu in pairs(menus) do
        menu.notAvailable = false
    end
end

this is where i ended up LOL

its just saying it's nil table for zaplevel

[bronze yoke]

is this code outside of a function? if it is getPlayer() is running on the main menu, where there is no player

[drifting ore]

oh oops lol im blind

yes it is thanks LOL i knew it was something silly to start at least

this stuff is making me go crosseyed at times it feels lol

[thick karma]

Anyone have a nice set of (freely usable) transparent background PlayStation 4 button PNGs preferably at 32x32? I feel like this has to be an extremely common need in modding, so I'm hoping... haha

[dark wedge]

https://opengameart.org/content/free-controller-prompts-xbox-playstation-switch-pc
Will need to scale them down, but these are public domain

[jaunty marten]

do u mean button with ps logo?

[ancient grail]

Whats the difference between

Scriptmanager.instance:getItem()

getScriptManager():getItem()

[jaunty marten]

no difference

same

[thick karma]

@dark wedge Thanks, I found these:

https://thoseawesomeguys.com/prompts/

[weak crescent]

Do you guys know any good events to catch if a zombie attacks a player

[jaunty marten]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/OnWeaponHitCharacter

[ancient grail]

Thats the one

[jaunty marten]

in mp it's working for players too so u'll need to add

if not instanceof(attacker, "IsoZombie") then return end

[ancient grail]

Just add a checker if its not a player

Or a checker if its a zed that could work

[weak crescent]

That works for zombies? Didn't know a zombie claw counts as a "weapon" lol

But thanks, I'll give it a try

[jaunty marten]

works

just won't weapon object I think so

[cosmic condor]

used this one too, but forgot where did I get it 😆

[jaunty marten]

forget it, there have to be weapon object

[small topaz]

In the models_items.txt, some items don't have a "texture" entry like this

model EggPoached_Ground
{
    mesh = WorldItems/EggPoached,
    scale = 0.4,
}

It only has a mesh. Does anyone has an idea how the game knows which texture it should apply? (Also asked this in the modelling section a few days ago but no answer so far. So tried here again.)

[drifting ore]

uses icon?

i thought that was default fallback

[bronze yoke]

maybe it's in the model?

[ancient grail]

Ithink ive encountered this too. Its baked on the model.

You could try and open it up using 3d dev software of choice

[jaunty marten]

model know his textures

it's common sense I'm not sure if pz does it smth else way

but it's pz.. they can do anything

[weak crescent]

Hmm, OnWeaponHitCharacter doesn't seem to work

And with disabling the player check, it would only call if the player attacks a zombie

But not the other way around for some reason

[ancient grail]

worked for me

off topic but mod related:
anyone tried arma 3? its on sale i was wondering about its workshop and why it has so many dlc.. how does that work

[bronze yoke]

what do you mean? it's just a normal dlc system

[jaunty marten]

dlc is a thing that always works

[bronze yoke]

if you're wondering why people would pay for content when there's free mods, mostly it's just the prestige of being 'official'

[thick karma]

Can anyone make me less confused please? ( 🤪 )
In JoyPadSetup.lua, we have:

Joypad.Texture = {}
Joypad.Texture.AButton = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_A.png")
Joypad.Texture.BButton = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_B.png")
Joypad.Texture.XButton = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_X.png")
Joypad.Texture.YButton = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_Y.png")
Joypad.Texture.LBumper = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/xbox_lb.png")
Joypad.Texture.RBumper = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/xbox_rb.png")
Joypad.Texture.DPadLeft = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_dpad_left.png")
Joypad.Texture.DPadRight = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_dpad_right.png")
Joypad.Texture.DPadUp = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_dpad_up.png")
Joypad.Texture.DPadDown = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_dpad_down.png")
Joypad.Texture.DPad = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_dpad.png")
Joypad.Texture.LStick = getTexture("media/ui/leftstick.png")
Joypad.Texture.RStick = getTexture("media/ui/rightstick.png")
Joypad.Texture.LTrigger = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/xbox_lefttrigger.png")
Joypad.Texture.RTrigger = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/xbox_righttrigger.png")
Joypad.Texture.Menu = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_Menu.png")
Joypad.Texture.View = getTexture("media/ui/xbox/XBOX_View.png")
Joypad.Texture.Back = Joypad.Texture.View
Joypad.Texture.Start = Joypad.Texture.Menu

This runs before all mods. Then loaded mods happen. One of my loaded mods, which confirms that it is working by writing correct output to a file, does this immediately:

        Joypad.Texture.AButton = WGS.PlayStation.AButton
        Joypad.Texture.BButton = WGS.PlayStation.BButton
        Joypad.Texture.XButton = WGS.PlayStation.XButton
        Joypad.Texture.YButton = WGS.PlayStation.YButton
        Joypad.Texture.LBumper = WGS.PlayStation.LBumper
        Joypad.Texture.RBumper = WGS.PlayStation.RBumper
        Joypad.Texture.DPadLeft = WGS.PlayStation.DPadLeft
        Joypad.Texture.DPadRight = WGS.PlayStation.DPadRight
        Joypad.Texture.DPadUp = WGS.PlayStation.DPadUp
        Joypad.Texture.DPadDown = WGS.PlayStation.DPadDown
        Joypad.Texture.DPad = WGS.PlayStation.DPad
        Joypad.Texture.LStick = WGS.PlayStation.LStick 
        Joypad.Texture.RStick = WGS.PlayStation.RStick
        Joypad.Texture.LTrigger = WGS.PlayStation.LTrigger
        Joypad.Texture.RTrigger = WGS.PlayStation.RTrigger
        Joypad.Texture.Menu = WGS.PlayStation.Menu
        Joypad.Texture.View = WGS.PlayStation.View
        Joypad.Texture.Back = WGS.PlayStation.View
        Joypad.Texture.Start = WGS.PlayStation.Menu

Where all of those are new icons (they work, not the issue).

The issue is that in the Main Menu of the game, when I first connect the controller, the game seems to reload JoyPadSetup.lua, or at least does something that causes it to reinitialize the values of Joypad.Texture, such that it shows Xbox buttons until I enter and exit the Options menu to trigger a refresh in a different way.

Does anyone know exactly where this happens so I can perhaps intervene immediately after?

[ancient grail]

~~I dont understand your problem clearly but im assuming you are having problems with refresh thats related to loadorder
Something like your mod getting overwritten by vanilla cuz vanilla re initialize ~~

[thick karma]

Yes, that is what I am saying, but no worries if you don't know. Just asking the community in general in case someone spotted a relevant thing recently

[ancient grail]

If thats the case you might have to hook on the function when it refreshes itself 🤐

[thick karma]

My question above is asking if anyone knows when that happens.

If I knew what to hook, I wouldn't be asking. 🙂

[jaunty marten]

https://pzwiki.net/wiki/Modding:Lua_Events/OnJoypadActivateUI

[thick karma]

Mmmmm I'll try that, not a bad idea, thanks.

[jaunty marten]

there're more events

[thick karma]

I'll try a couple. Been hooking Lua functions directly to no avail.

[thick karma]

No dice.

[jaunty marten]

this event calls only in main menu

OnJoypadActivateUI - menu
OnJoypadActivate - in-game

[thick karma]

I am trying to use it in Main Menu before joining any servers.

Not in the start menu

(Nope, I know nothing.)

[jaunty marten]

[thick karma]

Aha!

I DID know a thing!

            self.abutton = ISImage:new (self.controllerLabel.x + 31, 17, 32, 32, Joypad.Texture.AButton);

This little weasel is my problem.

A moving a-button that gets initialized BEFORE joypad even EXISTS

With the original texture, of course

gonna try to hook the end of initialize and fix it...

No wait

Gonna have to just call it via MainScreen object

[jaunty marten]

little shit

[thick karma]

If they just used the damn setISButtonFor function like they should be...

damn it

[jaunty marten]

wdym?

[thick karma]

Okay that did not fix it

[jaunty marten]

btw u can don't hook end of it but just put delay with 1 tick to ur event function

[thick karma]

I mean that function uses the crurently stored Joypad.Texture for the button being set, so if they WERE using it, it would already automatically apply my textures when joypad gained focus on the menu.

Potentially revealing anomaly: 3 buttons appear to be set (improperly) before my custom textures load into the game, but the back button does not. When I start the game, it prompts me to press (A), and when I first enter Options menu, it prompts me to press (Y) or (X) as usual to apply stuff, but it actually shows Circle to go back

At THAT point, when I EXIT Options, A becomes Cross, X becomes Square, and Y becomes Triangle.

But B is already Circle.

So weird.

[thick karma]

I don't think it's a timing issue I can fix that way. I am beginning to suspect that the texture is hardcoded into the initialise of something that initializes before any mods load.

[jaunty marten]

I'm not about timing issue

[thick karma]

Of course it reinitializes moving from Options -> Main Screen

I feel like that's gotta be a big hint as to how this happens

[jaunty marten]

I mean if it's called before set variables and if u set ur variables in this event then they will override anyway

so u can wait 1 tick and set variable exactly after vanilla set

[thick karma]

The problem is I don't know where it's set.

And I may be wrong about when.

I don't need to delay at all after it's set if I know when it is set

There would be no need to wait any ticks...

[jaunty marten]

wdym where?

[thick karma]

I mean I do not know the name of the variable

[jaunty marten]

u know but it can be done like

triggerhook
setvariables

so event actual before

it's just my mind cos idk where's event trigger placed

in start or in end

[thick karma]

I've done it!

Omg what a headache!

[dull moss]

Someone asked me to help them with sandbox options so I wrote a small guide, thought maybe someone could use it here eventually

#sandbox #sandboxoptions #sandboxoptionstutorial #tutorial

Ok, so to make sandbox settings you'll need 2 files and then obviously a way to reference those in your lua files. On picture one you'll see 2 files you'll need for sandbox stuff to show in-game. _EN.txt is obv translation file, options.txt is where you put stuff. options.txt looks something like this (same in all mods) - picture 2. 'Page' dictates on which sandbox page will show up. translation is your translation string, Type can be integer, boolean, double and enum. Haven't used enum (dropdown menu) so idk how that one works. Picture 3 on how values in options.txt are linked to _EN.txt (or any other translation file). Once you done stuff in first 3 pictures, you got yourself a sandbox page and some adjustable variables in it. Now you need a way of getting those values from the code. To reference value that you set up in sandbox settings, you call it by option name. So, for example, if I'd want to call my

{
    type = boolean,
    default = true,
    page = EvolvingTraitsWorldSimplePerks,
    translation = EvolvingTraitsWorld_Mechanics,
}```
 option I'd call for `SandboxVars.EvolvingTraitsWorld.Mechanics` and it returns a boolean. I have a personal preference of using a local variable (picture 4) at the start of the file to skip using `SandboxVars.yourModNameHere` every time I need to grab a sandbox variable. So (on picture 4) numbers 1+2 are same as number 3. That's pretty much all there is to sandbox options.

[jaunty marten]

what the solution?

[thick karma]

Borky and incomplete lmao

Basically, when I detect a gamepad button press, if it's the first button press, I do something that I know will reliably fix the prompts: I open options and close it. The user cannot see this happen, but by doing so, it creates the illusion "Press X -> Gamepad Active With PS4 Buttons"

The problem now is that this solution is also firing in the character creation menu when trying to join a server

And that is causing a problem

So I need to better distinguish when the player is in fact in that initial menu state.

[thick karma]

(Additionally, I have to hook the setISButtonForA / setISButtonForB functions and whenever I detect them trying to set something wrong, I fix the buttons before they set them. But this does not intervene in time to load buttons immediately after starting game, so I need both things together on that front.)

[thick karma]

Omfg wow I just found the dumbest mistake that actually explains my headache... I was accidentally using a mod option where I meant to be using a local variable... oof.

[ancient grail]

i noticed the x_extends on the xml refers to file that also has m_BlendTime
do i need to have both ... for the file that i trigger and the extends?

also if i do getPlayer():playEmote("testt") testt is the m_Name or the m_StringValue???

[ancient grail]

ill add this to my guide list

[drifting ore]

Iirc setting zombies sight to poor in sandbox setting just reduces the chance of them spotting you, but is there any way to modify their sight range? So for example zombies would see you only if you were x tiles away from them?

[dull moss]

[minor island]

Any fixes for the LuaManager.getFunctionObject. no such function "recipe_recipename" error? Had a look through the Discord but couldn't find a fix. This is from my mod and is the only mod installed while testing. Functions still work as intended yet this error appears for every recipe. Cheers

[thick karma]

Does anyone have a screenshot showing the [gamepad] start or back button on screen by any chance? Not even sure when the game shows you that...

[cosmic condor]

not sure what do you mean lol

[thick karma]

Sorry, I mean start and select

a.k.a. Options and Share, + and -

But presumably Start and Back iirc in Xbox world.

I know what the A button prompt looks like but thank you nonetheless

[cosmic condor]

maybe only in the survival guide

also, there is no start button in the ProjectZomboid\media\ui

but it appears in ProjectZomboid\media\ui\xbox

can't think of scenario to show the button

[thick karma]

Thaaaaank you! Amazing find!

I was trying to determine whether people would be likelier to see that on a dark background if they ever did see it

Nice work

[solid dawn]

Does someone here has experience with the profession framework? I used it for my professions and trait mod and, for some reason, the game always freezes completely whenever I select a profession/trait preset... I can't pin down the source as there is nothing about it in the console.txt.

[cosmic condor]

have you tried this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2896041179

[solid dawn]

I can try it but if the game doesn't writes anything into the console.txt file (because it freezes completely) I don't think this will help. I'll try it out tho

[cosmic condor]

check if you forgot { }

[thick karma]

A complete freeze likely indicates a loop that never ends

A while loop, perhaps, or a do repeat until, or a very weirdly written for loop

[sour island]

Even suspected infinite loops will throw an error

[solid dawn]

What could be the source when the freeze is related to the character preset selection though? 🤨 Are there even any loops related to it?

I can send you the link to my mod if you want to take a look yourself. I really just need to know whats the source of this problem.
I've tested other mods that use the profession framework and they don't have this problem

[thick karma]

Maybe. If adding the profession triggers something that needs to be done and will wait forever to finish.

I don't know about in vanilla

I figured you did something unique with your profession

[solid dawn]

I did some unique things with my trait yeah but I can't say if one of those special functions is the source without the logs telling me lma

So I seeked helped from more experienced folks

😮‍💨

[thick karma]

Did you check the log when the crash happens?

@solid dawn

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

😭 Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, Indie Stone? Why this ONE prompt!???!? Do not waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant!

Uuuugh.

I was so close...

[jaunty marten]

meanwhile: while true do end

[small topaz]

How do I check whether my game is single player or multiplayer? Can I simply use if not isClient() and not isServer() then to check whether I am in single player mode?

[jaunty marten]

.

[thick karma]

yes, but
if not (isClient() or isServer()) then
is slightly shorter lol

[viral notch]

sometimes is Client isn't the same what any type from joining to game?

[small topaz]

haha! logic!

And another question: ModData.transmit(String key) sends data to every client. Will the player who actually hosts game also receive those data?

[thick karma]

Yeah if you are a host player you're a client too iirc

[jaunty marten]

never google it but I think when lua creates bytecode it will should be same

[solid dawn]

yes ist just stops logging. Take a look yourself

[thick karma]

yeah I'm sure lol I mean written it's 1 character shorter.

pointless lol but whatever

Writing "not" twice feels awk to me

[jaunty marten]

it's shorted but first way more easier to get what is real condition

[thick karma]

Subjective

If you know your DeMorgan's law well, it's identical

Also, some conditions read more naturally as "if not (this and that)"

if not (poor or stupid) then increaseOddsSuccess() end

Pretty sure that condition is easy to follow

[jaunty marten]

I'm sometimes getting confuse when creating a bit big condition by second way 😅

[jaunty marten]

yea, Ik

[thick karma]

Fair fair