Do we know if the crafting system for v42 includes expansion of evolved recipe system?
#mod_development
fast galleon
elfin rapids
so even if that's coop game that he's hosting he can't just change lua in middle of game?
pulsar heath
in middle in the game not even in single player
of*
if you change a lua file you have to reload the lua, for that you need to go back to the main menu and load the save again
drifting stump
so even if that's coop game that he's hosting he can't just change lua in middle...
both the server and clients need to have exactly the same files
elfin rapids
both the server and clients need to have exactly the same files
i know, we had same lua after it was edited
drifting stump
you cant connect without disabling the lua checksum
drifting stump
but hes talking about co-op not server
hosted runs a server
elfin rapids
cause it's just a coop
elfin rapids
hosted runs a server
if that's important it's option of hosting coop, not just dedicated server
drifting stump
disable lua checksum
elfin rapids
disable lua checksum
is that the only option? i also don't know how to do that
drifting stump
all 3 split screen users malding
you also should move the mods out of the workshop folder and into the normal mod folder
not sure if it also does a checksum with workshop
elfin rapids
i've read that disabling anticheat is enough (cause it also disabled lua check), i'll check that later
thanks for help
pulsar heath
pz has anti cheat?
elfin rapids
kind of
drifting stump
yes
pulsar heath
thats new for me... what anti cheat does it have?
how does it distinguishes cheats from lua modding?
sour island
if you change a lua file you have to reload the lua, for that you need to go bac...
AUD has an in-game reload - but it's highly dependant on how the functions are written to have any effect. Stuff like Events.X.Add would be a done deal unless the author incorporates a remove somehow
pulsar heath
so it depends on the code of the mod, so mostly you need to back to the menu and let the game reload lua when starting or loading a game
thats nice tbh
sour island
Yeah, the most I've used it for was UI
pulsar heath
nice to know
sour island
I'm currently working on a facelift of sorts on AUD
Right now I'm working on merging it with the vanilla debug menu - but eventually I'm going to see about getting the reload to perhaps behave better
pulsar heath
oh i "broke" EHE
sour island
Oh?
pulsar heath
yup... added a wrong event syntax and that savegame is dead
sour island
Errors?
sour island
What's the error - I can write in a parser
pulsar heath
gimme a second ill check the log
function: eHeliEvent_OnHour -- file: ExpandedHelicopter06_EventScheduler.lua line # 306 | MOD: Expanded Helicopter Events.
[12-01-23 20:44:44.480] ERROR: General , 1673556284480> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: __le not defined for operand at KahluaUtil.fail line:82..
[12-01-23 20:44:44.480] ERROR: General , 1673556284480> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.```thought it was my mod, unloaded it but it kept spiting the same error
i broke something on that save
lemme get the rest of the errors
function: eHeliEvent_OnHour -- file: ExpandedHelicopter06_EventScheduler.lua line # 306 | MOD: Expanded Helicopter Events.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.698] LOG : General , 1673555769698> Event 1:.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.698] LOG : General , 1673555769698> Start Day: 1.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.699] LOG : General , 1673555769699> Start Time: 1200.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.699] LOG : General , 1673555769699> Preset: raiders.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.700] LOG : General , 1673555769700> Triggered: true.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.700] LOG : General , 1673555769700> Event 2:.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.700] LOG : General , 1673555769700> Start Day: 1.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.701] LOG : General , 1673555769701> Start Time: 1300.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.701] LOG : General , 1673555769701> Preset: raiders.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.701] LOG : General , 1673555769701> Triggered: true.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.701] LOG : General , 1673555769701> Event 3:.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.702] LOG : General , 1673555769702> Start Day: 1.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.702] LOG : General , 1673555769702> Start Time: 1300.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.703] ERROR: General , 1673555769703> ExceptionLogger.logException> Exception thrown java.lang.RuntimeException: __concat not defined for operands: Preset: and null at KahluaUtil.fail line:82..
[12-01-23 20:36:09.703] ERROR: General , 1673555769703> DebugLogStream.printException> Stack trace:.
[12-01-23 20:36:09.708] LOG : General , 1673555769707> -----------------------------------------```and the reason why i think was the time i used before using it properly
from this point on, everytime there was an event it would call the event but spit an error out
reseting the events in the mod menu did nothing... it crashed the game
but i doubt anyone else will have this problem
just to let you know
calm depot
how does it distinguishes cheats from lua modding?
There are a set of actions that are supposed to be initiated on the server side. If they're not, you get kicked
pulsar heath
but even so... you can still cheat with a mod right?
calm depot
there's also a few bits and bobs where the client tells the server if it's in debug mode, or if you have god mode turned on
surreal skiff
it amazes me how smart some of you are
calm depot
if you were to modify the java core of the game, you could make it calculate the checksum from unmodified files whilst loading entirely different ones into the lua state
so yes, it's a script-kiddie defeater
pulsar heath
that makes sense
drifting stump
if you were to modify the java core of the game you could do so much more than cheese the checksum
drifting stump
the anti cheats arent descriptive for a reason so wont comment much more
pulsar heath
thats more like a game protection than an anti cheat from my point of view
i can still force god mode using lua
drifting stump
its just a deterrent
pulsar heath
at least in sp
calm depot
you can, but then it will set a bit in a certain type of packet and the server will find out
drifting stump
but if youre forcing god mode through lua on a server the file is meant to have passed the checksum
so its assumed as intended
thats not what the anti cheats prevent
drifting stump
ive said enough to piece together things
pulsar heath
but i understand
calm depot
actually, no, if the lua matches on the server and client and it turns on god mode on that client, the server absolutely will still kick them if they don't have a privileged account level
drifting stump
devs have asked us to not clarify things too much
pulsar heath
actually, no, if the lua matches on the server and client and it turns on god mo...
sure but its a kick... kicking cheaters is not a way to deal with them
but cheating in this game... would take all the fun out of it
calm depot
yeah, the kind of people who want to use it will go and join PVP servers to grief folks
astral dune
thats a particular point of view. People who regularly cheat in MP games get their kicks from having that kinda of power over other people
calm depot
osnap
pulsar heath
cheating on a sp game i can understand why some ppl do it... mp... wheres the fun in that?
sure high KD ratio or whatever... but... you didnt earn it and at the end of the day youre still bad at the game no matter the numbers
so no braggin' rights there
calm depot
to annoy and upset
pulsar heath
but yeah, cheaters were one of the reasons i stopped playing fps
calm depot
let me guess... CS:GO?
pulsar heath
and not only
the last drop was the cheating idiots on pubg
they killed the game
bf3 also had a rough period with cheaters all over the place
any game thats has a kd and goes mainstream will have a problem with cheating
calm depot
doesn't even need a KD ratio, just look at online chess 😄
pulsar heath
some developers can solve the problem or at least mitigate it, some dont
kd wr mmr
theres always a number behind the cheating reason
the most on you face cheating i've seen was on bf3... getting killed from 200 meters away with a defibrilator leaves no doubt if the other dude was cheating or not 😄
anyone knows if they are gonna improve the mod downloading when joining the server? I never had problems so far, but i have a few players that get stuck after downloading a mod when connecting to the server... they then need to unsubscribe the mod and subscribe again or the server keeps saying they have a diferent version and its the same version both on server and client
or perhaps i have something wrong on the server configs...
or is it a steam problem?
@sour island - heres the bit i think its where i broke the mod by sending invalid parameters to it
https://pastebin.com/LDEQHziZ
calm depot
anyone knows if they are gonna improve the mod downloading when joining the serv...
the first problem is common and yeah, pretty much everyone just unsubs and resubs.
The second problem is common when the client is up to date but the server is not and needs a restart
pulsar heath
everything is up to date... according to what im reading from one of my viewers complaining: Server, Malformed packet detected. Type 21.
and he even reinstalled the game
so im just gonna turn off anticheat 21 i guess?
dull moss
so I saw someone saying here that you should do events like this
local function initializeTraitsLogic(playerIndex, player)
Events.OnZombieDead.Remove(onZombieKill);
Events.EveryOneMinute.Remove(oneMinuteUpdate);
Events.OnZombieDead.Add(onZombieKill);
Events.EveryOneMinute.Add(oneMinuteUpdate);
end
Events.OnCreatePlayer.Add(initializeTraitsLogic)
```so if character dies and they create new one without leaving to main menu, it doesn't duplicate events. Is that correct?at first i thought it might be some mod that got update but some files got left behind
pulsar heath
so I saw someone saying here that you should do events like this
```lua
local fu...
every one minute?
isnt that a bit much?
pulsar heath
and im confused
if a zombie dies removes onzombie kill everyone minute removes oneminute update and on zombie dead adds zombie kill
pulsar heath
what i see is when you create a player you run the function
it removes the events and then adds them again
thick karma
so I saw someone saying here that you should do events like this
```lua
local fu...
I do this kind of stuff, yes, Music.
pulsar heath
the events are binded to the player char?
so you do that to make sure its working on the right char?!
calm depot
no, the events are not
dull moss
LOG : General , 1673569637654> ETW Logger: modData.FearOfInside: -1
LOG : General , 1673569637668> ETW Logger: modData.FearOfInside: -2
thick karma
I almost always remove before adding functions to events unless I am 10000% that function could not have been added before I am adding it... and even then I might remove it first because honestly I don't see the harm
dull moss
lel
calm depot
for it to have practical meaning, you should remove the events when the player's character dies
dull moss
meh
pulsar heath
that makes more sense
dull moss
i'd rather remove before adding
calm depot
otherwise, you're just deleting and adding the event all in the same tick, which is pointless
dull moss
dont need to have event in 2 places then
pulsar heath
so im not the only thinking that?»
thick karma
otherwise, you're just deleting and adding the event all in the same tick, which...
Splitscreen?
pulsar heath
only one...
thick karma
would two splitscreen players trigger two OnCreatePlayers?
Based on my guess that it would, I tend to follow the Remove-Add practice
dull moss
who cares about spitscreen players 
calm depot
it would, yes
pulsar heath
lol
thick karma
In prep for making my mods coop splitscreen compat
calm depot
so without split screen, the code is pointless
with split screen, it's actively harmful
pulsar heath
if my mods dont work in split screen i do not care
thick karma
Why harmful?
calm depot
oh I take that back, it'll delete itself first so it won't do anything bad
dull moss
^
thick karma
Yeah it doesn't do anything tmk to delete a nonexistent function on an event
Whereas double-adding can completely bork a loop
pulsar heath
so its just to make sure nothing else is there?
calm depot
either way though, why do you need to defer your events to player creation?
thick karma
I do not always but for events that use playerIndex and player it's p convenient
pulsar heath
that i think i know why, since you may die and make a new char
thick karma
Both are passed automatically
pulsar heath
that way it inits when a new char is made
thick karma
Again, I do not assume player 0 in any of my mods.
I am working toward splitscreen compat
calm depot
er, for events that pass you a player... how are they going to fire if the player is currently out-of-game due to death?
thick karma
Not there yet but have made many steps toward it in many places
OnCreatePlayer passes a player, that's all. I was only saying why I would add the event then. Possibly I am adding an event that I want to trigger immediately after instantiating some player data.
It's just convenient to add the listener right there.
pulsar heath
i still fail to see the point of doing that, but if it works for you good...
ancient grail
If the player dies with the events die with it
thick karma
E.g., load mod data on the player and then begin the event.
thick karma
Maybe not the "best" way, but, yeah, if I know something works and isn't slowing things down (notably), I tend to let it be lol.
calm depot
there absolutely is value in minimising event registration; the less stuff you have registered and the less time that stuff spends registered, the more CPU cycles you save
but I don't follow how having a function that instantly unregisters and reregisters achieves anything
thick karma
Only if the registration might be triggered twice in a row... e.g. when adding and removing listeners on the basis of async events.
calm depot
99.99% of player time is spent in the game, not character creation. if you're concerned about CPU use of your event hooks while the player is just creating a character, their experience when actually playing is going to suck
ancient grail
If u are on debug
And you want to restart the code
If you dont have something to unregister the function then it might get doubled
Like onfill shows multiple instances of the same context menu
thick karma
No it's not the CPU use, sometimes double-adding an Event hook can bug the purpose of the hook entirely.
pulsar heath
but I don't follow how having a function that instantly unregisters and reregist...
im still trying to understand the point as well
thick karma
Doing something twice that needs to happen once per tick e.g. can cause issues depending on the situation.
calm depot
yes, you definitely should not be double-registering
thick karma
It can be harmless, but also can cause issues.
calm depot
even if harmless, it's wasted cycles
thick karma
But no I am not worried about CPU usage with stuff like this
pulsar heath
nothing thats does nothing is harmless in coding
thick karma
Compared to code breakage that is
I mean if I know how to make something a little faster but not less legible I generally will, of course.
pulsar heath
thats like going into a car starting the engine
then stoping the engine
and starting it again
calm depot
if you register your events at the scope of the lua chunk (i.e. not nested inside anything) then you have no concerns about it being double registered
thick karma
That's fair. But I add and remove events based on whether they need to exist. I guess perhaps that's a waste of energy is part of what you're suggesting
You would perhaps add them all and just let them return nil when unnecessary
pulsar heath
but thats a different thing
thick karma
Which I SOMETIMES do
pulsar heath
its not remove add
calm depot
it's not if there's some amount of frames passing between it being unregistered and reregistered
thick karma
There are in my case.
calm depot
worth it
pulsar heath
well it works for you, so im glad... gonna stop melting my brain over it
calm depot
#1 rule of gaming: amortise your processing costs across as many frames as possible
pulsar heath
thats the same as writing some code to do X
and instead of creating a function and call it when needed
you just copy paste the code..
it works yes
but not the best way
thick karma
#1 rule of gaming: amortise your processing costs across as many frames as possi...
Makes sense.
I've considered adjusting my recovery mod so it heals different things on different ticks but it feels like micro-opt lol
(Context: recovers basically 9 different character stats every 300th tick, all on that tick. Has to do some checking and arithmetic for each. No noticeable slowdown on my PC but meh lol sometimes I get an urge to try to be unnecessarily fancy)
calm depot
first, benchmark
thick karma
Yeah fair.
dull moss
so question for ModOptions dev users out there
I got following lines in the body of my lua (not in the specific function)
local SBvars = SandboxVars.EvolvingTraitsWorld;
local notification = EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications;
if I change sandbox settings midgame, changes come into play instantly.
if I change modoptions, it doesn't change shit
oh
wait its cuz it passes value and not a reference
cuz EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications is not a table
right?
thick karma
You can change mod options manually during gameplay but it will not be reflected in the Options menu so I wouldn't recommend it.
Recipe for confusing users.
calm depot
he's referring to programatically changing option values
thick karma
Yeah sorry.
How are you trying to change Mod Options in-game and not getting results exactly?
dull moss
why would i want to change modoptions from inside code
thick karma
Haha honestly I just guessed that's where someone would run into difficulty.
My bad.
dull moss
if SBvars.Runner == true and not player:HasTrait("Jogger") and sprinting >= SBvars.RunnerSkill then
player:getTraits():add("Jogger");
applyXPBoost(player, Perks.Sprinting, 1);
if notification == true then HaloTextHelper.addTextWithArrow(player, getText("UI_trait_Jogger"), true, HaloTextHelper.getColorGreen()) end
end
end```And the reason for me is that I wanted to adjust Mod Options after character loaded into the game on the basis of Sandbox Options to enable admins to override player options.
But that didn't work out.
dull moss
you dont need to?
whenever you use player options, make sure you count for sandbox
hold up i did that
there
if percentage <= math.min(SBvars.SmokerMoodlePercentage, MOvars.SmokerMoodleVisibilityValue)
makes sure that even if ModOptions are set higher than allowed
it runs sandbox value
so admins can limit players
thick karma
Yes but I didn't want invisible overrides, I wanted the users to simply inherit settings determined by an admin
Which they could then freely change.
dull moss
ah
thick karma
I do have some situations where I use an override like yours
This was a different and much lamer situation
😭
dull moss
i just put it in modoptions tooltip so they know that it will be overriden by sandbox
if its above allowed
anyway
local SBvars = SandboxVars.EvolvingTraitsWorld;
local notification = EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications;
function func()
player:getTraits():add("Jogger");
applyXPBoost(player, Perks.Sprinting, 1);
if notification == true then
HaloTextHelper.addTextWithArrow(player, getText("UI_trait_Jogger"), true, HaloTextHelper.getColorGreen())
end
end
this doesnt work
notification is locked in true
calm depot
of course it is
calm depot
lua is a by-value language
calm depot
but, lua is still by value, the value is the address of the table
dull moss
thick karma
```if perk == "characterInitialization" or perk == Perks.Sprinting then
...
yeah just move notification init to func
thick karma
Or just use your mod option
dull moss
hoped not to have it around
in every function
yo bigbrain moment
local SBvars = SandboxVars.EvolvingTraitsWorld;
local notificati = EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings;
function func()
player:getTraits():add("Jogger");
applyXPBoost(player, Perks.Sprinting, 1);
if notificati.on == true then
HaloTextHelper.addTextWithArrow(player, getText("UI_trait_Jogger"), true, HaloTextHelper.getColorGreen())
end
end
ancient grail
That looks poetic man
dull moss
calm depot
local notification = setmetatable({}, { __eq = function(_,b) return EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications == b end})
if notification == true then ...
😏
dull moss
i got no idea whats that but if it works i'll use it
calm depot
it would, but it's a joke
dull moss
calm depot
creating a table and setting an __eq metamethod is ridiculous overkill
ancient grail
dull moss
dull moss
creating a table and setting an __eq metamethod is ridiculous overkill
resource-wise?
calm depot
it's unnecessary, ugly code
dull moss
dont care
calm depot
it does also happen to be a bit slower, but not enough to care
dull moss
1 ugly line of code @ start of file makes other 900 lines look better
calm depot
lol
dull moss
i'll take it
calm depot
well, then perhaps it is justified
ancient grail
Does this emoji look stressed? I dont see why that looks like stress. He should be less stressed cuz his covering his ears
calm depot
until you forget how the magic works 🙂
dull moss
i don't need to remember how it works
thick karma
Food for thought, not for everyone, feel free to hate my style, reject it, and do something else:
Example.mod = {
options = {
angry = true,
happy = true,
sad = false
},
names = {
angry = "Angry",
happy = "Happy",
sad = "Sad"
},
mod_id = "Example",
mod_shortname = "Example"
}
Example.loadModOptions = function()
-- Connecting the options to the menu, so user can change and save them.
if ModOptions and ModOptions.getInstance then
Example.modSettings = ModOptions:getInstance(Example.mod)
local angry = Example.modSettings:getData("angry")
local happy = Example.modSettings:getData("happy")
local sad = Example.modSettings:getData("sad")
angry.tooltip = "Pick this if you're angry."
happy.tooltip = "Pick this if you're happy."
sad.tooltip = "Pick this if you're sad."
end
end
Example.loadModOptions()
Usage:
Example.mod.options.myVariable
i just need to have comment next to it
I hate you and all your life
||just for the lulz though||
god
thick karma
I do it this way because I like the legibility of using my variables like this but you do you.
calm depot
@thick karma I like the style, except the = function() - just do function Example.loadModOptions()
thick karma
<@470376476445900801> I like the style, except the ` = function()` - just do `fu...
In VS Code, the automatic colorizing of code differentiates Example from loadModOptions if you do it the way I did it, and so because I am obsessively into nice colors, I have adjusted my normal style in Lua.
If you do function Example.loadModOptions, Example.loadModOptions is all one color.
Boooooo to all one color.
ancient grail
I also use the function func()
Cuz its easier to just copy paste to debug
calm depot
can't you alter the syntax highlighting not to do that?!?
also, that is the worst reason I've ever heard 😛
thick karma
lol very probably
But altering my behavior was infinitely easier.
I spent basically 0 minutes on that
Haha
calm depot
trivia: What is the difference between these two:
local foo = function() end and local function foo() end
dull moss
thick karma
Enlighten me?
calm depot
in the first one, you cannot recurse
calm depot
local function foo() end would be sugar for local foo; foo = function() end
thick karma
Because it doesn't exist yet.
calm depot
precisely
calm depot
well, it only matters for locals
thick karma
Actually wait... come to think of it.
calm depot
anything that involves a table lookup is going to be fine
thick karma
@calm depot But this just ran for me:
bob = function(x)
if (x > 0) then
print(x)
bob(x - 1)
end
end
bob(10)
globals are just an implicit assignment into the magical table _G
thick karma
10
input:5: attempt to call a nil value (global 'bob')
nice.
Oof
Fascinating
Well if I ever need to make a recursive function in Lua I will now know how not to write it.
Thanks.
thick karma
LOL
I have no doubt
Most parties I've attended are full of people who appreciate the subtleties of algorithm optimization.
It's all they want to talk about, really.
I'm just like, "Man, can we talk boobs for 5 minutes?" They just kick me out.
thick karma
lol that is the right emote
ancient grail
I made this using mobile so pla dont judge it oli
I just wanted to ask if something like this is possible
bigTestFunc = (function()
you == ""
function isTestValid()
if you == "want" then
return true
end
end
function endTest()
if isTestValid() then bigTestFunc = nil end
end
end)
you = "want"
Whats goin on?
thick karma
Lmao nothing.
astral dune
I made this using mobile so pla dont judge it oli
I just wanted to ask if someth...
without tabs its hard to be sure but it looks like your you local won't be available at the bottom
calm depot
he's also trying to use the comparison operator for an assignment
ancient grail
Ow yeah lets remove the local and make it a global var
astral dune
ya, I was just typing the comparison thing, haha
what are you trying to achieve? This code doesn't really do much as written
calm depot
now now, maybe he didn't get to that part yet
ancient grail
Im just curious if you can fit multiple functions inside a function and kill everything this way
calm depot
you can declare functions inside the body of a function
functions are first-class objects in lua
thick karma
And, yes, you can make a function in a function that sets the parent nil.
calm depot
as such, they are essentially the same as all other types, like numbers, booleans, strings, etc
astral dune
by "kill everything"
I assume you're asking if the other functions get deleted when you set bigTestFunc to nil
thick karma
Right, I didn't think of that... endTest and isTestValid would survive as globals in your example.
calm depot
what was the error, I must have made a typo
ancient grail
Iirc burryaga mentioned before that you need to destroy the child if u nil the parent they still exist
dull moss
no errors
calm depot
hm, let me do it properly, since you're serious about using it
astral dune
there isn't really a "child" in this instance. If you had marked those functions as local I suppose you could consider them children of the big function, but they also would not be callable outside the function either
dull moss
I was promised 1 line
calm depot
what's the full table path to the value you want to compare?
calm depot
it will be 1 line 😉
thick karma
Iirc burryaga mentioned before that you need to destroy the child if u nil the p...
They know, Olipro is talking to Music about his code.
dull moss
EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications
calm depot
ok, so the if statement would (normally) be if EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications == true ?
dull moss
yer
nothing too complex
if notification == true then HaloTextHelper.addTextWithArrow(player, getText("UI_trait_Bloodlust"), true, HaloTextHelper.getColorGreen()) end```I use it in all notifications
thick karma
local notification = function() return EvolvingTraitsWorld.settings.EnableNotifications end
;P
use: notification()
@dull moss
Did I cheat?
dull moss
why
calm depot
because that's the obvious solution?
calm depot
LOL
dull moss
calm depot
duly noted
thick karma
Lmao
dull moss
ancient grail
😅
Reason why i asked the bigTest thing
Is cuz i want all the code of a trait in one function and onticks check if player has trait
ancient grail
Sorry not trait but sandbox var
calm depot
I refer you to the same gif
to do anything on every tick, you need to have a really compelling reason
ancient grail
Cuz its possible that they toggle it
And when its on id like the functions to run
Ok
calm depot
fine, but you don't need to check for that every tick, jeez
you remind me of someone who used a spinlock for a task that took multiple seconds to complete
ancient grail
But theres no event for sandbox updates
calm depot
what do you mean by "sandbox updates"
thick karma
I think he's saying he wants a thing to happen regularly, on tick or nearly on tick, but to stop happening if a sandbox option changes, and to begin again if it changes back.
ancient grail
It the functions will behave acording to the change.
calm depot
you could hook sandbox option changes on the server to send out a command to clients
thick karma
Is this about the light? @ancient grail
calm depot
you then hook that command on the client and do your work
thick karma
I'm sure details would help Olipro help you a lot better.
calm depot
now you have your own event-driven model
and you don't have to waste CPU cycles constantly polling
ancient grail
Ye and no. Like in general the trait codes ive been working on
thick karma
I see.
ancient grail
If its a bad idea then im not gona do it
thick karma
Olipro is suggesting that is it avoidable, and avoidable things should be avoided OnTick.
Instead you can add or remove the event.
astral dune
Burryaga: Olipro interpreter
thick karma
lol
calm depot
cool, I have my own interpreter
sour island
What is the onTick process you're toggling?
also - half the game is ran off onTick
idk if adding 1 more will cost much
calm depot
death by a thousand cuts
ancient grail
you could hook sandbox option changes on the server to send out a command to cli...
Abunch of functions related to certain traits
thick karma
(One of them is a light that follows the player while they move and actually updates every 5th tick)
calm depot
also, running off of ticks tends to be insidious because folks inevitably add more code that runs inside the tick, so you get into a pattern of worsening the situation with each feature you add to your mod
sour island
also - changing sandbox options isn't something that occurs on the fly unless you have a mod that does so - and you could pry into that update function
and you're adding this to OnPlayerUpdate ?
You could use OnPlayerMove
only caveat would be if the light is disabled via sandbox options changing on the fly they'd have to move once
if you don't have a listener for when sandbox options are changed with the 2 mods that let you do that
thick karma
only caveat would be if the light is disabled via sandbox options changing on th...
Sometimes I sacrifice the milliseconds of others for my own personal hours. Sorry world.
sour island
?
calm depot
exactly, the real question is "does this damage the user experience"
thick karma
For sure.
calm depot
it's been a few days since I pushed out the crafting tooltip lag fix and nobody noticed that because of the truncation optimisation, the unavailable items are no longer alphabetically sorted, because nobody cares about the ordering of items they don't have
sour island
it was sorting unlisted stuff?
calm depot
it created a table of everything that matched the recipe, then sorted it all
vast nacelle
Yep. Grabs all items, sorts them, then only displays the first ten anyways. Horrific.
calm depot
for ripping clothes, that's loooads of items when you account for mods
sour island
heh
calm depot
that's not the worst, it then does a deduplication stage which is O(n^2)
calm depot
for k,v in pairs(t) do for k,v in pairs(t) do end end is quadratic
(in the original code, it's a forwards loop, and then a backwards loop with ipairs, but you get the point)
sour island
you got a link to this mod?
sour island
I should probably sub to it so I dont forget during my next run
calm depot
my second mod to make it to the front page of the workshop
thick karma
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2915430406
Can confirm, it's the real deal.
Makes menu appear instantly.
Gold
sour island
nice 👍
thick karma
Not nice
sour island
crafting menu also has some issues last I recall
thick karma
I had just finished spending at least 30 minutes learning to hide that overlay and testing my solution
sour island
page refreshes are like a whole new instance
calm depot
yes, I might have a look at that next
thick karma
My effort felt 86% more worthwhile before Olipro and his goddamn solution entered my life
calm depot
I don't use that menu too often though so it hadn't triggered me
sour island
That's how I got into modding
vast nacelle
The Bethesda model of attracting modders
calm depot
LOL
sour island
It ended up as vanilla behavior
I couldn't remember what I named the preset
Worth noting the sandbox preset option already did this
🤔
73 true fans using an unlisted mod
calm depot
I always leave mods up even if they're obsolete, someone might gain some knowledge from the code
sour island
fair, I have it on github
calm depot
I did some pretty horrific metatable code to get gasoline working in containers
then they added tags, did it themselves and everything was nice
sour island
tags are underutilized - I wish more of the vanilla code made use of them
glad they seem to be getting more love
calm depot
separating the items from the action/recipe, as it should be.
if I had my way, you'd be able to specify a tag, with a set of bit flags that specify how it can be used
e.g. it's a BluePen with Keep flag
some other item is BluePen with Keep and Consume flag
flags dictate what you can do with it in a recipe
sour island
that's how I wish food stuffs / liquids / containers worked
sour island
as much as I love this game, the fact that there's items for 'withWater' 'withMilk' bugs the crap out of me
sour island
I would hope so - but I'm not sure as they added gasoline containers recently
calm depot
I'll finally be able to water down my guy's cheap bourbon to beer strength
sour island
I'd rather have liquids be special objects that can't be acquired without a specially flagged item to hold them
have liquids entering containers cross reference an interactions table
some basic chemical interactions would be neat
there's a game called SS13 that does this - treats player's stomachs as a liquid container too
calm depot
I have a feeling that's where it's headed
sour island
nothing like downing the other half of the thermite recipe as you slowly lose consciousness from ingesting the first half
calm depot
if stomachContents:isKosher() then
sour island
alot of their systems would fit PZ
SS13 added moodles a few years back - wouldnt be surprised if the idea came from PZ
sour island
that's an interesting emote ya got there
astral dune
its an old meme for sure, ballsy to just use it any old place
calm depot
oh, that's your mod
I considered it but I didn't fancy the balancing
I just read the v2.0.0 tab though and it seems better, I'll give it a go
then again though, I'm not entirely convinced by removal of Hard of Hearing
sour island
hmm asthmatic being gained sounds neat
I kind of wanted to dabble in making more types of injuries
more minor ones that if you'd ignore you'd have a bad time
calm depot
also, it would be nice if the spreadsheet gave estimates for the thresholds - e.g. approximately how many completely broken car parts "6000" condition would be
dull moss
I considered it but I didn't fancy the balancing
what balancing
balance it yourself u lazy fuck
sour island
also considered making hand washing prevent germ intake when eating - but kind of not sure about it as it sounds unfun
dull moss
There's sandbox options for everything
calm depot
can you individually enable or disable gaining/losing specific traits?
dull moss
yes
calm depot
FULL sandbox customization. Choose which perks you want to be dynamic, choose how fast you get them, choose how fast you lose them, customize anything with more than 100 sandbox options
dull moss
You can run whole mod and just make 1 perk dynamic
calm depot
put that in bold, that's brilliant
dull moss
should update, its 130 now
I wish we could use colors on steam page for text
Would be an easy highlight for important parts
sour island
you can make it a header
calm depot
or cheat and make it an image
sour island
[h1][h2][h3]
calm depot
can you put alt text on an image?
dull moss
h3 is good enough
sour island
can admins/hosts log on MP with multiple instances?
sour island
-nosteam doesnt load mods from my local Workshop folder
which means I have to move my mod over to /mods/
kind of a pain in the ass
dull moss
make a bat file that you could hit when you need to move stuff
if you need it for active development purposes and need to edit stuff often
calm depot
I wonder if you can work around that by converting mods into a junction
sour island
I need to test MP shit
sour island
kind of wild I can't just boot up multiple instances on -debug
calm depot
the JVM isn't going to know or care that NTFS is redirecting you
sour island
-nosteam is the correct flag right?
calm depot
yeah
dull moss
i wanna make a framework that modders can use to display internal counters for players to see
like a tab where you could see moddata that modder want you to see
cuz I thought that it'd be very useful to me
cuz I use a lot of internal systems to track different interesting mechanics
sour island
I have been working on debug tools that lets you do that
sour island
ah I see what you mean
dull moss
I'll look into how KillCount made new tab and into moodle framework on how to make it into framework
sour island
I thought you meant modData itself
sour island
is killcount the one that concats a paragraph under the player panel?
dull moss
problem it requires me to code ui and fuck knows how to do that
it also adds kills page
or wait is that base game?
i havent played without killcount for like 2 years
sour island
that's def not vanilla
calm depot
except the OnPlayerUpdate event
sour island
Me and Shark were shooting around ideas - and a tracker system for player history was thrown around
dull moss
calm depot
that generates a bunch of slow logs
dull moss
I could make category = modname
and when u expand it it has fields in it that mod passes to framework
should be doable
calm depot
@sour island so, I just launched PZ from the .bat file in debug mode, launches multiple times no problem
I'm pretty sure it's their launcher that detects the process already running
which you don't need to use at all, the thing is just a wrapper that loads a JVM
dull moss
I add Killcount as dependency to 600k subscribers mod submod
Killcount gets 50k subs in 3 weeks
was 90k before
sour island
you can circumvent Steam's '1 at a time' by having shortcut's listed under games
sour island
Can you connect to your own server multiple times?
calm depot
ah, good point, it probably won't grant a ticket
sour island
yeah that's my only issue
I'm honestly not sure why -nosteam would drop '/workshop/' from the mods to load
I guess just the implication it's 'workshop' and thus steam related
I also hate there's 2 local folders for mods with different file structures
calm depot
shouldn't be too hard to make a patch that uses steam but does non-steam network
if that's what you're looking for
sour island
like to modify the java?
calm depot
yeah, runtime patch
I made a tool for that
it loads as a java agent
this thing: https://github.com/Olipro/PZHook
sour island
Ah I recall this
calm depot
I'd wager that if you intercept SteamUtils.loadLibrary and rewrite ZNetJNI64 to ZNetNoSteam64 before passing it on, you'll be good to go
actually, if you want a shitty hack... rename the DLL, don't pass -nosteam and let me know if it works 🙂
mint helm
Anyone here?
limber oar
We're always here
sour island
Come join us
mint helm
Oh hello guys
It's almost similar to a wasteland trying to find people to talk to in pz chat lol
limber oar
Modding chat is always poppin'
This is where we come to distract ourselves from the typo in our code we're all inevitably chasing down
mint helm
I don't mean to take advantage of our newly formed acquaintance but do you guys mind if I pick your brains for some modding knowledge?
mint helm
This is where we come to distract ourselves from the typo in our code we're all ...
This is always promising!
limber oar
I'm incompetent, but fire away, maybe someone smarter will be able to answer what I cannot
mint helm
Okay I'm trying to make sense of what I have and its ups and downs, this would be my mod install folder basically correct?
My brother kinda just threw a bin of mods at me and told me to subscribe en masse
limber oar
On Workshop?
mint helm
Yes
limber oar
Yeah, so you've got all those mods installed, you just need to activate the ones you want (which is presumably all of them if he told you to DL them all)
calm depot
install this and then enable it in that list, then restart your game:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2694448564
limber oar
^ Beat me to it
calm depot
it will save you a lot of agony
limber oar
With that you can enable them all in one fell swoop
calm depot
you'll know it's enabled because the mod menu will look different
sour island
It's almost similar to a wasteland trying to find people to talk to in pz chat l...
Don't go there...
calm depot
it is dependency aware, which, judging by all those mods you have... you're going to need that feature
you're also missing the 4 Color Bic Pen mod, which is absolutely essential 😏
limber oar
Wait @calm depot you're THAT Olipro?
mint helm
I'm just new to my brother throwing me into a game that a bunch of middle schoolers modded clumsily
calm depot
I'm THAT Olipro
mint helm
Okay so lemme see here
limber oar
I'm _THAT_ Olipro
Truly a legend
You are in the presence of a man who singlehandedly revolutionized the Zomboid map-drawing industry
mint helm
"Subscription" is essentially the same as the install button for mods right?
limber oar
On Workshop, yeah
Subscribing to something on the Steam Workshop is the same as installing it
dull moss
MOM GET THE CAMERA 
mint helm
Where would the mod manager appear? On the mod page?
calm depot
yes, it replaces the default one
limber oar
It's a mod in and of itself, so you have to enable it on the mod page, then restart your game
mint helm
Got it
dull moss
Where would the mod manager appear? On the mod page?
I exceptionally highly recommend this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2694448564
10 times better than vanilla mod manager
limber oar
That's what he's setting up right now lmao
calm depot
mods can be enabled in two ways:
-
by default, through the main menu, this is necessary for stuff like Mod Manager.
-
per-save game
mint helm
Do I need to wait for the lua to reload before exiting?
calm depot
you do, because you don't have a choice
mint helm
Ok beautiful
calm depot
unless you particularly need a mod on the main menu, don't enable it by default, do it in your save game
otherwise your game's startup time is going to get slower
dull moss
welcome to the life of true modder enjoyer
limber oar
unless you particularly need a mod on the main menu, don't enable it by default,...
I actually did not know this, I assumed it was all through the menu
Learn something new every day
sour island
you have to enable mods if you're hosting from the main menu and want to edit their sandbox options
limber oar
^ Art of the Deal
mint helm
unless you particularly need a mod on the main menu, don't enable it by default,...
This whole setup is for the sake of creating a hosting server for my siblings, I'm the one with the most ram capacity so that job falls on my shoulders
calm depot
yeah, that's true, but if you're going to host a server properly, using the built-in is pain
dull moss
Mod Manager has server addon
mint helm
I'm assuming the color coding has its purpose?
dull moss
if u hosting locally
calm depot
Yellow = depended on
calm depot
it's clearly yellow
dull moss
astral dune
its auburn
calm depot
programmers obviously always do traffic light colours
mint helm
Okay so far so good
limber oar
when you use f.lux everything is orange
limber oar
programmers obviously always do traffic light colours
speak for yourself, I use puce and fuschia
mint helm
These mods should be enabled in general in the mod page if I am to use them for hosting purposes?
astral dune
eggshell list, stygia list, that sort of thing
calm depot
ah, a true colour-blindness connoisseur developer
limber oar
I love making digital art and forgetting f.lux is on
lmao, if you haven't opened up a file the next morning and gone "wtf was i doing last night" you aren't a true flux user
mint helm
I love making digital art and forgetting f.lux is on
Then all your oranges are a little more blue and vice versa
I know the pain
limber oar
that's how i learned the hard way to set it to turn off automatically when PS, etc. is open
calm depot
pff, sleep is for the weak
calm depot
@sour island you've piqued my curiousity, did you make your Discord avatar?
mint helm
Do the mods uninstall once I unsub?
limber oar
Yep
calm depot
Help, I accidentally Stable Diffusion myself
mint helm
is there a reason some of my active mods get disabled whenever I restart the game?
sour island
Most of my stuff is commissioned - this is off that one Netflix show
calm depot
horrifying, which show?
sour island
the end of the f***ing world
calm depot
no kidding
sour island
the eye is like that cause i never finished
calm depot
I watched the first season, but that was Channel 4 back then, I think
sour island
calm depot
is there a reason some of my active mods get disabled whenever I restart the gam...
no, there shouldn't be. Though if they're enabled only for a save game, they'll never be enabled in the main menu
(unless you go and explicitly enable them globally)
calm depot
chef's kiss
limber oar
you know what's funny
i started making mods a couple months ago because I was missing a feature I wanted for my first playthrough after getting back into PZ
I still haven't started that playthrough 😅
All I do is mod now
sour island
yep
cosmic condor
it's called meta gaming
astral dune
the real pitfall of modding is once you see how the sausage is made... well its just not that appetizing anymore. This is why I hope whatever I make becomes completely obsolete in 42 so I can play without being familiar with every system
limber oar
That's definitely true, it definitely removes a little bit of the magic
calm depot
like any of us won't go and look at the code and update our stuff
it's too late, you huffed the modding crack pipe and now you're hooked
astral dune
seeing a socket set in the pictures they posted in the recent blog tells me they are fixing to undo my work, which is good
cosmic condor
I hope that the game can be played without the need for any QoL mods
limber oar
the thing is everyone disagrees on what's "qol"
you can put in basic stuff like "open cans with sharp objects," sure, but there'll always be people who think up some ingenious use of something or some better way to represent something and say "why isn't this in the base game"
that's why as a developer one of the smartest things you can do IMO is allow modding
you let the community fill in the cracks and you can focus on building systems rather than minutia
cosmic condor
some should be optional, could be turned on or off through the options menu
sour island
speaking of which - need to get that community patch rolling
calm depot
options can become overwhelming too, you need to balance with accessibility
sour island
not sure if the patch should flat out overwrite vanilla files :\
would be hard to force it to load first I imagine
calm depot
I suspect with PZ, folks go through a natural progression of getting comfortable with vanilla and then branching out into mods
cosmic condor
yes, I've seen a mod that has 100 of settings 
sour island
lmao @dull moss
humble oriole
is there a list of the gets on getClimateManager()? I didn't see one in the java docs. Trying to get the temp.
dull moss
smh imagine hating on customizability
calm depot
no longer outdated it seems, nice
dull moss
I suspect with PZ, folks go through a natural progression of getting comfortable...
I just went modded straight away
everything is better with mods
change my mind
calm depot
I played vanilla first, then when I went to multiplayer, I was thrown straight into mods
dull moss
I played like 3h of vanilla
calm depot
change my mind
you're preaching to the converted in this channel
limber oar
i hate mods
calm depot
alright, get in the bin
limber oar
agreed, those guys are nothing but trouble
dull moss
ikr
calm depot
YoUrE DesTroYiNg ThE DeVelOpeRs CreAtIvE ViSioN
limber oar
i love adding sandbox options, it's a great way to mitigate stupid complaints
limber oar
"myeeh i don't like this part, i want this, change the ratio, make this easier, make this harder"
sour island
modders don't even play the game
humble oriole
lol, wtf does getAmbient() return?
.836989164352417
limber oar
fuck it here change all the variables yourself see if i care
humble oriole
fuck it here change all the variables yourself see if i care
doing the same thing in my mod
almost 100% configurable
humble oriole
You want 35 propane units a day? knock yourself out.
calm depot
lol, wtf does getAmbient() return?
`.836989164352417`
I'm guessing it's ambient visibility
sour island
hyperlinked image of fake comments - straight to a github
dull moss
modders don't even play the game
havent played the game in last 3 weeks btw
limber oar
hyperlinked image of fake comments - straight to a github
lmao clever
sour island
wanna tell me my mod is broken with no context? get ready to sign up
humble oriole
wanna tell me my mod is broken with no context? get ready to sign up
this is a good idea
calm depot
idiotfilter.png
limber oar
Speaking of breaking mods, how do you guys handle potentially save-affecting updates? I had to rename a bunch of my files to lay the groundwork for future improvements and while it isn't going to brick anyone's save any modded clothes/items on them/in containers are gonna disappear. Should I just make a comment + note it in the changelog? Create a whole compat file?
Obviously the real answer is "don't be stupid and name your files properly to avoid this issue in the first place"
cosmic condor
the majority of sessions are used for testing mods 😅
calm depot
what are you changing that will destroy the items?
limber oar
renaming their xml files
vast nacelle
On that Steam Recap thing, it said I started up PZ 1600 times over the year.
My next highest was like 200.
So much testing
calm depot
which XML files?
limber oar
clothingItems
calm depot
I haven't done any clothing, but isn't it tied to the GUID
limber oar
the itemNames in scripts/clothing also changed which is probably what did it
You'd think
calm depot
yes, changing item names absolutely will
because the world dictionary would be referencing old name X which no longer exists
limber oar
Though, this is actually useful info
I assumed it was the .xml files
I'd like to change the item names just to bring everything in line but AFAIK those are pretty much invisible
So if I just leave those untouched and accept that they're out of convention then I can mitigate save problems
calm depot
I would be surprised if just renaming the XML files does anything
vast nacelle
As long as you also update the xml path in the fileGuidTable.xml, it doesn't affect anything
And even then, you just get errors until you correct it
Shouldn't cause clothing items to get deleted.
limber oar
Yeah, it was my changing of the item names that did it
So I guess this is the part where I swallow my pride and sacrifice my beautiful naming conventions for the sake of backwards compatibility
CURSE YOU, PAST ME
ancient grail
yes, I've seen a mod that has 100 of settings <:panic:721361533623599174>
What mod is that
cosmic condor
What mod is that
MusicManiac's 😹
mint helm
Isn't this mod just a randomizer? (Many Spawns)
Why is it showing up as an actual map?
ancient grail
MusicManiac's 😹
limber oar
Isn't this mod just a randomizer? (Many Spawns)
It has a number of spawn point "maps" to pick from
mint helm
It has a number of spawn point "maps" to pick from
Wait so each selection is literally a custom made map?
limber oar
No, they're just "maps" of available spawn points
Think of it as a bunch of treasure maps showing you where possible spawns are
They all are maps of the same area but one has profession spawns marked, one has location spawns, one has all the louisville spawns, etc.
mint helm
They all are maps of the same area but one has profession spawns marked, one has...
Oh so like spawns depending on the profession you choose and etc?
limber oar
Right
mint helm
So what's the main advantage of having it besides preemptive information about where you're going to end up?
limber oar
The default spawn options are very limited
You're basically guaranteed to start in a house or a trailer
That mod not only expands the base system but also offers a lot more interesting possibilities
mint helm
And this mod enables the "unique" spawn points?
limber oar
e.g. the ability to start in parts of the map that you usually have to hike out to, or (for example) to start in a police station if you're a police officer, etc.
mint helm
I really just dislike how it clutters the map selection though
limber oar
I don't disagree, but fortunately you only have to look at that once when starting a new game :P
mint helm
I don't disagree, but fortunately you only have to look at that once when starti...
Fair enough. Okay now one last question, how do I compile all this in a list to send to my friends?
limber oar
Your brother threw you a list originally, right?
Or did he just point at the screen lol
mint helm
The former
astral dune
if you're the host I'm pretty sure anyone trying to connect will automatically subscribe to and download the mods
mint helm
So I have premade list in my hands @limber oar
mint helm
if you're the host I'm pretty sure anyone trying to connect will automatically s...
Will they? My brother in law was getting booted from my session because of incompatibility yesterday
limber oar
You can just throw them the same list and that should work
calm depot
the mods do need to be listed in the workshop section of the config for them to be downloaded
but you should use Mod Manager to take care of that
mint helm
but you should use Mod Manager to take care of that
You're saying if I list them here my friends would automatically download my mods?
astral dune
yes, but that interface sucks, use the mod manager mod to setup your other mods
calm depot
^
use that interface to configure everything, don't worry about mods
then go into Mod Manager and use the Server button to edit it and properly setup mods
if you have no server button, you need to install Mod Manager Server from the workshop
mint helm
I've set it up, now my friends can join without worrying about synchronizing with my list?
astral dune
all those numbers in the center column are the workshop ID's associated with the mods. They should download for them no problem
honestly the only time I see compat issues is when a mod updates while the server is still running, so clients connecting have newer versions than the server
mint helm
all those numbers in the center column are the workshop ID's associated with the...
And this is all done automatically as they join the server?
astral dune
ya, takes a minute the first time, as you'd imagine
calm depot
you mean you don't use vim?
limber oar
nah I use vscode for work so it's easier to stick with an ide I know
astral dune
clearly the answer is to use the copy of Eclipse I downloaded from the university of waterloo in 2004
limber oar
you got me
dark wedge
About 2 years ago, my Emacs config became complex enough to become sentient and convince me to just use VSCode. Haven't looked back
ancient grail
You're saying if I list them here my friends would automatically download my mod...
I hope one day when someone random shares a screenshot like this i see my mod.. probably not gonna happen cuz most of my mods start with letter f or m for some reason
I should start naming mods using ' followed by a number
limber oar
I like looking through all the collections that use mine and trying to draw conclusions about the users based on their modlists
cosmic condor
I hope one day when someone random shares a screenshot like this i see my mod.. ...
'1992 Glytch3r's Ascending Mod
but I believe Mod ID cannot begin with '
vast nacelle
At least with the mod manager server, it's sorted by Mod Name, not ID
limber oar
Completely random question, does anyone know offhand if there are any sandboxes on the map
Like playground sandboxes
I wanna shoot a cute photo for the mod page talking about sandbox options
nvm, found one, Rosewood School
dark wedge
anyway to detect if the corpse on the ground used to be a player
Looks like IsoZombie has the isReanimatedPlayer() method
https://zomboid-javadoc.com/41.78/zombie/characters/IsoZombie.html#isReanimatedPlayer()
ancient grail
nice thnx
ancient grail
Looks like IsoZombie has the `isReanimatedPlayer()` method
https://zomboid-javad...
ow wait will still apply to corpses
dark wedge
I think so? pretty sure that's what they still are even when dead (again).
mint helm
So all my mods seem to be working on my hosted servers except for my custom maps. They're not showing on the world creation page, can someone please help?
vast nacelle
So all my mods seem to be working on my hosted servers except for my custom maps...
Find this page in the Server Settings and use the "Add an Available Map to to the list" to add them to the server. Make sure they are higher than the default Muldraugh map.
mint helm
Find this page in the Server Settings and use the "Add an Available Map to to th...
Thank you! I didn't even realize that this was a thing!
humble oriole
why does lua have floor/ceiling... I just want a nice even round number without having to take a unilateral decision on if it's going up or down
vast nacelle
The 'joy' of Typeless Languages
vapid bloom
dark wedge
why does lua have floor/ceiling... I just want a nice even round number without ...
thankfully zomboid provides round(num, idp)
will give a number rounded to idp places
humble oriole
oh thank god
dull moss
math.ceil(21.000001) = 22
it's correct?
ceil of 21.000001 is 22?
did you mean floor?
humble oriole
yea
dull moss
that's easy
humble oriole
yea, dhert told me lol
dull moss
math.floor(value+0.5)
humble oriole
they imported the java round lol
humble oriole
but whay
dull moss
idk, just saying its an option
humble oriole
dark wedge
they imported the java round lol
yea its in luautils
local mult = 10^(idp or 0)
return math.floor(num * mult + 0.5) / mult
end```
more accurate than just flooring itplus you get the decimal places
flooring it?
ancient grail
just sharing my code for the speed gun,. i provided the option to round decimal or not
Events.OnPostUIDraw.Remove(speedGunResult)
local function speedGunResult()
if not getPlayer() then return end
if not (isHasBadge() and isAuthorize()) then return end
local car = IsoObjectPicker.Instance:PickVehicle(getMouseXScaled(), getMouseYScaled())
if car then
if SandboxVars.RadarGun.useKmph then
local KMPH = car:getCurrentSpeedKmHour()
if SandboxVars.RadarGun.showDecimal then
local speedValue = tostring(math.abs(math.floor(KMPH * 100)/100))
else
local speedValue = tostring(math.abs(math.floor(KMPH)))
end
else
local MPH = car:getCurrentSpeedKmHour() / 0.621371
if SandboxVars.RadarGun.showDecimal then
local speedValue = tostring(math.abs(math.floor(MPH * 100)/100))
else
local speedValue = tostring(math.abs(math.floor(MPH)))
end
end
local xOrigin = getCore():getScreenWidth() / 2
local yOrigin = getCore():getScreenHeight() / 2 - 20
if getPlayer():isAiming() then
getTextManager():DrawStringCentre(UIFont.Medium, xOrigin, yOrigin, speedValue, 1, 1, 1, 1)
end
end
end
Events.OnPostUIDraw.Add(speedGunResult)
not sure if its relevant to what you need
humble oriole
you can't just drop
speed gun
and walk off like that
is that already on the workshop?
vast nacelle
you can't just drop
> speed gun
and walk off like that
is that already on the w...
Speed Demon enthusiasts:
ancient grail
you can't just drop
> speed gun
and walk off like that
is that already on the w...
yes
humble oriole
ancient grail
Skizot made the model
https://imgur.com/KVdVwxx
just sharing
Thnx for the help on the animation @dark wedge
humble oriole
o.O
eternal garnet
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2902311542
Singleplayer users be like:
ancient grail
https://tenor.com/view/radar-weather-spin-gif-11563900
It might work with npc driving vehicles
If thats a thing
eternal garnet
I wish that was lol
vast nacelle
It might work with npc driving vehicles
If thats a thing
Can you make a separate setting so it can measure Zombie speeds?
Imagine clocking Sprinter speeds, lol.
"Uhuh. That one would totally run me down."
hushed haven
Heya, I am trying to make a simple inverted controls mod for a friend that should only trigger in specific cases. The case itself isn't the issue, but the key stroke is. I have looked at the Javadoc and some other mods but I am struggling to find the best way to essentially lets say, have the A key be triggered when the D key is pressed. Which method would need to be used to have a key stroke triggered?
fast galleon
Can you make a separate setting so it can measure Zombie speeds?
Imagine clockin...
+animal speed for v42 👀
ancient grail
"Uhuh. That one would totally run me down."
Idk how to get that variable
But the vehicles speed is from the dashboard
ancient grail
Heya, I am trying to make a simple inverted controls mod for a friend that shoul...
OnKeyPress event
fast galleon
anybody planning to do cockfight and racing mods for animals?
hushed haven
OnKeyPress event
Alright, gotta look into that then. I currently use Events.OnKeyPressed.Add(function); to listen to any key pressed event being fired. I assume I can then specifically also fire events with the key as an integer?
ancient grail
You do animation poltergeist? Seems like your ideas hard to do but that would be so cool
ancient grail
Alright, gotta look into that then. I currently use `Events.OnKeyPressed.Add(fun...
Yep
Just return the key
ancient grail
Nice
That would be a cool thing to do
Hmmm if you can bind the key to another obj that travels
Like the remote control vehicles from gta
That would be sick
Control. Drone or RC
With noisemaker
And flashing lights ..
Its way too OP
Must limit the range of the remote and probably low hp
thick karma
Can the file writer write bitwise and thus overwrite Java class files? Wondering if it's possible in any way to automate installation of Java mods installed via Steam
agile vigil
A very interesting question.
fast galleon
Can the file writer write bitwise and thus overwrite Java class files? Wondering...
wouldn't you need to edit java before you can a get file writer for the right directory?
don't olipro and DeltaMango have already what you want?
pulsar heath
morning everyone, i need an opinion. Its a small detail but im undecided. I usually make the player char annouce the events like in the picture bellow ( still working on the format of the msg ) But with air events im thinking about only warning the player if he has a radio nearby turned on and tunned to the EBS, am i just being to much of a detail psyco or would that be better?
thick karma
wouldn't you need to edit java before you can a get file writer for the right di...
Tbh I do not know. I have only used the file writer for writing to default directory. Not sure of its limitations.
thick karma
don't olipro and DeltaMango have already what you want?
Is this @ me? I don't understand if so.
pulsar heath
cant you just use oli's pzhook?
@thick karma i think it was since its related to your question
pulsar heath
Tbh I do not know. I have only used the file writer for writing to default direc...
and filewriter and reader only writes and reads from the lua folder i think, modfilewriter or something like that writes to the folder mod somewhere dont recall where
used it when i was storing my mod configs inside the mod folder about a year ago
thick karma
https://github.com/Olipro/PZHook
I wasn't aware Oli made this. This looks interesting. Only other Java hook I know seems to be a dead project... Modder seems to have moved along.
pulsar heath
this one is not
and works very very well
easy to use as well
gonna see if i can send custom messages to the radio or if i have to create a radio mod to do it or something...
thick karma
Right on... I may explore it in the future. Currently playing with some other stuff. I kind of want to make a dedicated 360 degree visibility-cone mod... I know of one on the Workshop but it comes with something else and the install process requires manually overwriting the game's Java files. Was wondering if I could recreate the process in a cleaner or more automated way.
pulsar heath
i think pzhook will do what you want
if i remember correctly it patches the files itself or you can just run a batch file and use it without patching the exe file of the game
thick karma
morning everyone, i need an opinion. Its a small detail but im undecided. I usua...
In Meditation, I added halo notes for everything I thought a player might need, and just let people turn them off in Mod Options.
pulsar heath
hmmm that might be a good option for me
thick karma
Seemed like the most user-friendly approach for my sitch
Most people either want all the help or none in my experience.
pulsar heath
yup
thats what i was thinking... some want the immersion some just want to have fun
its hard to make it balanced to everyones taste
thick karma
exactly
pulsar heath
for me... since is something for the chat to mess around with the streamers game, immersion is off the window... as soon as i start streaming