pz_b42_chat

[wicked galleon]

you're rolling 7% and 25% and 100% more often

[bleak dust]

exactly

[stable notch]

gambler trait except the spiffo house always wins

[wicked galleon]

right, but no matter the way infection is implemented
if its implemented at all, then you cant use the same logic to justify taking it for 100% scratch infection rate games either

[bleak dust]

sure you can

[wicked galleon]

afaik its still a 1.3x multiplier on the chance for zed injuries

[bleak dust]

theres still a bit more ofa chance than normal

[wicked galleon]

so you still just flat out increase your risk by 1.3x, regardless of how infection is implemented

[bleak dust]

but its the mmost free thin skinned gets

[wicked galleon]

the difference is the base risk is just a lot higher with scratches being 100% infection

[bleak dust]

rule of 7s is about adding up the percentages over time

just like with rule of 9s with burn victims

you add up the percentages

and create a formula

[true garden]

Any chance means you should consider getting scratched a loss anyway, and then if you happen to survive it doesn't matter anyway

[wicked galleon]

i dunno if it works that way

just from a pure mathematical perspective, there's not really any instance where thin skinned is "free" in that regard

[bleak dust]

right but to me 93% chance of living and not having it happen as often is mmore important to m

[wicked galleon]

though most players consider it free because getting hit is a big rarity for the ones that know the game

[bleak dust]

correct i agree there

i was being a bit simple there

i was just stating that in a regular game youll get scratched a lot

and live

and the less you get scratched

the better odds you survive over time

[wicked galleon]

yea

[bleak dust]

so I don't make the assumption that scratch = death

is my point

which is what thin skin arguers do

[wicked galleon]

the idea makes sense

[wicked galleon]

oh right

i agree that taking a hit can be seen as a loss

[true garden]

For new players I wouldn't recommend it, but even as an intermediate you should just assume that you are 100% going to be infected with any injury and the trait accordingly becomes "free"

[stable notch]

really? thats weird

[bleak dust]

my point is that sometimes no traits is better than paying for a postive trait

[wicked galleon]

but purely from the idea of like, actually playing the game, i still take thin skinned but only assume game over when im bitten

i dont use those assumptions when i argue for thin skinned

[bleak dust]

now if you want to roleplay, or challenge yourself. thats fine

but to assume its part of a min maxing like I do

that is not the case

[wicked galleon]

min maxxing would definitely involve thin skinned though

especially if those points are being used for nimble/armor

[bleak dust]

no...

being able to live trumps getting points

[thorny quiver]

Thin skinned I treat as half of a free neg trait if that makes sense which it probably doesnt

[bleak dust]

every day

[wicked galleon]

if you take like 8 traitpoints and then spend it on lower thirst, etc then eehhh

[bleak dust]

i get what you are saying

[wicked galleon]

right, thats the idea behind what i mentioned

[bleak dust]

but being able to live always trumps the points

[wicked galleon]

taking thin skinned for faster and easier access to armor is far better than no thin skinned and no armor

[true garden]

By that same token, the game where you get scratched and infected on your first encounter is an immediate loss, might as well have taken it

[bleak dust]

if you "min - max" yourself into getting only 6 inventory, are you really min maxing?

[wicked galleon]

oohh

anytime i talk about this idea with folks, nobody mentions game scope

like, how much time can be put into the game

high fitness high str is the best for quick burns and fast action

[bleak dust]

i agree knightly

[thorny quiver]

I assume infinite time but I also assume infinite annoyance

[wicked galleon]

low fit low str is obviously better for multi-year games so long as you have the skill and planning to survive

[bleak dust]

like if Im going to mix max, Im going 10 str and 10 fitnesss

[wicked galleon]

multi-year game optimization requires that low fit low str but that form of "min-maxxing" isnt tailored to specific player skillsets, its just tailored to optimizing the time-to-traitpoint ratio

but mid range between that is high fitness low str

[bleak dust]

yeah if I had to choose between which one is higher, i pick fitness

[true garden]

That's why I play with no skill increases. If Im gonna die because my Strength was 5 instead of 7 it wasn;t a good run anyway

[heavy ore]

Tbh the grind to get the str and fitness from 9-10 seems astronomical on vanilla gains compared to pretty much all of the other skills.

[bleak dust]

because it lvls more slowly

[wicked galleon]

i can respect the logic, in some sense

if you only make good moves but are forced to try and make a play that gets you stuck, yeahhh probably cooked

[wicked galleon]

yeah it is, if you dont start with 9-10 and you have a life, you're not getting it ever lmao

[stable notch]

ive seen it done recently, took like a year+ in game tho

[wicked galleon]

that and also blacksmithing in general is just a solid skill to have

[stable notch]

last basement i find before taking a break

[wicked galleon]

armor itself is nice but the weapons are sick

[heavy ore]

Like i was doing the math on a character before and i was like. I HAVE TO TRAIN EVERY DAY FOR 30 MINUTES A DAY FOR NEARLY 365 DAYS?(it was ether that or a little over 9 months 🤔 )

[stable notch]

every tent marker is a basement

[true garden]

Just throw on a Youtube video and do pushups lmao /s

[wicked galleon]

lmao

[true garden]

That's a no from me, the others were better

[thorny quiver]

You spam exercises all in one stretch

[stable notch]

u rite

[thorny quiver]

No need to wait 24hr cycles

Exercise till you crumple->sip whiskey->repeat

[heavy ore]

More looking at probably the "intended" why excercise is meant to be done.

[wicked galleon]

right, i forgot

[covert dune]

i made a mod that makes thin/thick skinned +2/-2 and use that, i like it
id be fine if it just affected tree scratch chance which is the real reason i take it

[wicked galleon]

thin skinned

thin skinned is technically mathematically not free points

[true garden]

Skip the middle step and just keep 49% alcohol in your water bottle

[wicked galleon]

but if you use those 8 trait points to things like better weapon skills or more flexibility etc. then it does tend to more consistently improve your survival over trying to improve the gambling/roll chances for when you get hit

if you're running thick skinned with no nimble, you're probably not in for a good time

so it usually kinda ends up being "free" in that way

[true garden]

That's what most people mean by "free" anyway. It's "free" if it's more than worth the disadvantage it causes

[wicked galleon]

yeah

like i think most people like smoker with hemophobic

i hate smoker with a passion though

that feels less free to me

[true garden]

Smoker RIP nerfs made it balanced

[wicked galleon]

lmfao

[covert dune]

i forgot to specify before going afk that i meant to say i take thick skinned whoops

[true garden]

HOW DARE

[covert dune]

bite me
it wont work, you cant stop me :3

[true garden]

Forgetting things in my GOOD CHRISTIAN DISCORD SERVER

[wicked galleon]

yeah see if that were the real trait point cost, i'd probably take thick skinned easily

[covert dune]

gods, forgive my arrogance

[bleak dust]

ok just finished eating

what did i miss

[wicked galleon]

just more thick/thin skinned talk

[opal plume]

I ate 34 rats since ur departure

[bleak dust]

nice

[true garden]

More of the usual you know

[copper stratus]

Praying for animal hotfix so I can fertilize mah eggs

🫃

[covert dune]

for real though even with my personal changes i still dunno if id seriously claim it as a good or bad trait cause its rng manipulation on already notable rng and idk how to feckin judge any of that

[wicked galleon]

reminds me of lucky

like some people just view it like a difficulty slider

except lucky also affected foraging stuff, which was less rng

[true garden]

May I introduce you to the field of statistics

[wicked galleon]

if you get bit in X amount of playtime hours and you start about X amount of saves in that same span of time, thin skinned varies in benefits

[covert dune]

which is fair i see that

[bleak dust]

again not saying thin skinned is bad

just its not free

like everyone claims

[covert dune]

i like that stance

[wicked galleon]

yeah its not totally free

but majority of the time it fits the description for what a lot of people have in mind when they say free

[true garden]

Nothing is free, but "free" is mostly just used as shorthand for "well worth the value"

[wicked galleon]

different definitions

[bleak dust]

for me its about survival first, than str and fitness and inventory

[wicked galleon]

yeah this is said better than what i put it as

[true garden]

Insert political argument here lmao

[bleak dust]

“chemicals in the water”

[wicked galleon]

i usually have to view it as what paths does taking certain traits open for me

[true garden]

https://giphy.com/gifs/joe-powerful-rogan-21lCU1verYspO

[wicked galleon]

thin skinned is really strong in that regard so i cant get rid of it, probably saved me more than burned me since i live for a long time anyway

[proud beacon]

THEY'RE TURNING THE TADPOLES INTO FROGS

[wicked galleon]

by a massively significant margin

[bleak dust]

yeah and for example if you want to roleplay being outdoors not in city

it makes sense

you could do illiterate

[covert dune]

thats one of the craziest things abt thin/thick skinned is how polarizing the trait costs are

[little prism]

Inb4 its nerfed like high thirst and smoker

[wicked galleon]

it better not be bruh

[covert dune]

they better buff thick skinned too then

[bleak dust]

for me i just don’t pick either and for 0 points i achieve normal skinned

[covert dune]

:thonk:

wombat playing chess while we playing zomboid

[true garden]

Tbh I recommend any experienced player do an illiterate run for the funsies

[bleak dust]

my buddy did it

[little prism]

That just sounds more painful if anything

[true garden]

Fam out here playing "Project _"

[wicked galleon]

the amount of time it would take to get anywhere would be beyond my level of patience

[bleak dust]

he did illiterate and deaf

to get 10 str and fitness

[thick fern]

Guys, just 2 day 19 hour i get rid of underweight

[covert dune]

illiterate taught me that schematics are considered picture books and that you can use said schematics to craft an item even if youre one level below the requirement

[wicked galleon]

grats

[covert dune]

congrats!

[bleak dust]

some say hes still trying to carve his way to lvl 8

[thick fern]

wait, you still can learn recipe from schematic?

[true garden]

Nah, Illiterate + deaf, no positive traits. 16x pop extinction. Goal: make it to year 2

[thick fern]

using illiterate

[rigid star]

Is there a sandbox setting which speeds up workout progress?

[gray echo]

yall know those tratis that are like plus two then they go minus?

[wicked galleon]

all sprinters

[covert dune]

yep, they are considered picture books and can be "read" by illiterate trait players

[thick fern]

i play only wear belt and sneaker spawn in west point

[bleak dust]

ill make sure my buddy knows that

[covert dune]

illiterate is still super penalizing but its way better than it used to be now that there technically isnt any lasting hard impossible things other than writing on the map and getting lore info from fliers

[bleak dust]

can you make a schematic?

[wicked galleon]

when did they make cats eyes so expensive wth

[gray echo]

i dare someone to do a no shoes, wilderness, insane pop, louisville park run

[covert dune]

nada, they drop from survivor houses and a couple of much rarer situations like foraging and maybe a couple car stories?

[true garden]

Same update they nerfed smoker if I remember correct

[bleak dust]

rgr

[wicked galleon]

modern day tragedy

[gray echo]

oh my gosh is that THE spiffo as an app?? this is an outrage

[bleak dust]

cat eyes is basically a must in mp

[covert dune]

last few patches? its a mixed feeling for me because cats eyes was an always pick for me for making it possible to see no matter the weather, provided youre not underground or some shit

[true garden]

Id say I got you but I've gotten about 10 hours of gameplay in these last 8 months

[wicked galleon]

i might have to stop picking it since i could get mechanics +1 for the same cost

[gray echo]

no 😢

why you bully me

[rigid star]

Is there a sandbox setting which speeds up workout progress? (sorry if this message shows up twice I think the first one didn’t go through, not sure though lol)

[wicked galleon]

cats eyes doesnt help with buildings either which just feels pretty bad

[lusty plume]

there are customizers for xp gain rates for every skill

[gray echo]

yes, you gotta clikc the

3 arrow button

[true garden]

Lemme double check for you

[covert dune]

makes sense but it was something i could overlook at -2, but its -3 or -4 now yea? way different story

[true garden]

Oh yeah nvm thats is very much a thing

[wicked galleon]

yeaah

i actually used to take cats eyes for the foraging bonus

[covert dune]

speaking of -3, -3/+3 is one of my biggest peeves with the zomboid trait system, because it feels like you lose to bad math from sitting at -1 or +1 remaining points because of how few odd numbered traits there are

and i totes see that

[wicked galleon]

but eagle eyed is a more significant bonus for 1 more point

[toxic bloom]

wow i just learned something new!

[rigid star]

Yeah I saw the ones for the skills but wasn’t sure which one applies for workouts

I just want that to progress slightly faster so I don’t have to workout so much to level up fitness.

[covert dune]

it saved my ass from the range + night vision bonus on a few cdda foraging runs

[vestal kernel]

Why can't I put shotgun shells in a shell bandolier?

[true garden]

Traits def need some adjustments, but they're like 90% there

[covert dune]

is it a shell bandolier or a bullet bandolier? if the former than probably bug

[covert dune]

yeah overall its still a good system imo
when the main focus points of people discussing it are balancing and not implementation i feel like theyre doing well

[toxic bloom]

this is especially useful in cdda challenge
if you kill a zombie and it has something you want to wear that is repairable but broken...
you can patch the holes and wear it and if you patch all the holes you get the full insulation value of the undamaged item

[covert dune]

ah yeah thats a great tidbit to have - since most of my cdda runs are also runs where i find a sewing kit (surviving tends to run hand in hand with that), ill find a leather jacket and some jeans or smth and rag patch them and boom, no more cold

[vestal kernel]

Shell bandolier, says it reduces shotgun loading time and has 2 capacity

[toxic bloom]

exactly! I wonder if i patch a leather jacket with cloth rags if that works

[covert dune]

prolly bug, to be certain tho youre not using modded shotgun shells?

[covert dune]

it does, seems to only care that the hole is patched, you get the same insulation bonus afaik

[true garden]

Just to confirm, loose shells not box of shells yeah

[covert dune]

that too

[vestal kernel]

Nope, says Base shells,

[vestal kernel]

Yup

[covert dune]

huh, sorry mate its probably an oversight for some silly reason

[wicked galleon]

does speed demon still have the issue with reverse sound being insanely high

i remembered they murdered towing and im less inclined to use it for that now

[true garden]

Then sounds like a bug, if you're playing modded double check in an unmodded save. If it still doesn't work submit a bug report to the forums

[covert dune]

afaik that one is not technically the trait and more just reversing RPM'ing to hell and back causing massive sound increase, but i dont actually know if that was ever looked at

[wicked galleon]

hmm

[vast torrent]

Algum brasileiro?

🇧🇷

[covert dune]

potato potato so it doesnt matter the actual cause but its a neat tidbit i wanted to point out :3

[cobalt stone]

creature

[true garden]

I think that was semi-intentional

[toxic bloom]

well look at me in my warm leather coat. ty!

[wicked galleon]

oops not to imply that it was buggy, just that it was an issue that existed with it

[vast torrent]

Eu não consigo sobreviver mais que um dia, e olhe que eu jogo no modo normal 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

[wicked galleon]

but yeah aight

[robust crest]

Is day 2 always foggy? I always notice whenever I start a new run day 2 is foggy as shit

[covert dune]

mhm! nice with the sack too, and if you dont find gloves try for rag handwraps, theyre surprisingly insulating and also cover your forearms

[wicked galleon]

kinda random, although ive been annoyed with half my extinction attempts being minute 1 foggy as hell

[vast torrent]

I not sobreviver two days, its so bad

[covert dune]

i like fog irl but in pz it just flashbangs the fuck out of me

[true garden]

Fair, at least from a personal perspective think that's the only reason it's so cheap

[vast torrent]

😭😭😭

[robust crest]

Its annoying, its early enough in the run where idc if I die to fog ill just start a new run

[wicked galleon]

it does make sense

[covert dune]

yeah this is what i was trying to get at - i feel like the description could be worded better to not imply that the trait itself is causing it, or have that warning be put somewhere else

[wicked galleon]

wait, do you need to read a magazine to fire harden a spear?

[covert dune]

ye

[wicked galleon]

if you dont take bushcrafter for whatever reason

[wicked galleon]

brahther

[toxic bloom]

rag handwraps are sick, ty!!!

[wicked galleon]

evil

[covert dune]

tho i wanna say theres a autolearn for it somewhere? lemme double check

[covert dune]

ofc!! gl on the runn ^~^

aaAA yikes ok you can autolearn it at spear 6 (big yikes) or from researching a preexisting fire hardened spear (which pretty rarely can be stuck in zeds)

so not as easy as i thought

[wicked galleon]

thats insane

[vast torrent]

How can I survive more than 5 days? Either I get sick or I die from a zombie infestation. I'm playing on normal mode, but does anyone have a walkthrough on how to survive and start getting stronger? I managed to build a base at the fire station and make an advance.

[covert dune]

truly

[wicked galleon]

okay, so its actually hard required for spear mains

thats... pretty crazy ngl

[covert dune]

crazy shit indeed - wilderness isnt the hardest mag to find in regular play but on cdda or any challenge mode there really is no reason to not take bushcraft ;-;

[vast torrent]

What should I do when I get sick?

[toxic bloom]

sewer has been promoted to S tier specifically for cdda

[echo coral]

i used to wonder how food would removed boredom and then i realised i literally just doordash a sandwich when i'm bored and it somehow makes me less bored when im done eating

[covert dune]

what kind of sick? cold? broken bone? zombie bite?

[wicked galleon]

that's a difficult one to answer, as usually it comes with time and figuring out your short term goals much better
food, water, shelter, and a way to kill a few zombies are important (weapons)
but after that, you need to know how to effectively clear areas from hordes and how to manage your moodles as well

[echo coral]

theres a few types

[wicked galleon]

i think a youtube tutorial is the best way to convey the necessary information, as there's just too many small details

[toxic bloom]

this deer is just running in circles... irl i aint eatin that lol

[echo coral]

like if you got poisoned (food poisoning, bad water) or infected by a zombie or got a cold in the winter

[echo coral]

yeah ingame its shitty pathfinding though

irl could be rabid

[covert dune]

CWD or rabies hit a little different when you see it irl lol

[wicked galleon]

wait a second, i think ik what it is
are you standing near zombies or near corpses

[vast torrent]

getting sick from a zombie bite.

[echo coral]

yeah ur done

[wicked galleon]

welp thats just straight up zed infection

[echo coral]

pack the character up man sorry

[copper stratus]

For those that do not hotwire, where do yall usually find cars with keys at

[vast torrent]

That was great, thanks for the tip.

[copper stratus]

For me it seems muldarugh logging warehouses typiccally have keys

[echo coral]

you have about 2-3 days of life left before you die to the infection, 0% survival rate sadly

[covert dune]

you pray. there is no cure. scratch is 7% death chance, laceration is 25%, bite is always death

[copper stratus]

but im trying to find other spawns that could also help

since ive noticed keys are alot more rarer in b42

[wicked galleon]

from my experience it feels heavily rng, key spawns are really haphazard near cars

[rigid star]

Sweet summer child

[copper stratus]

real asf

[wicked galleon]

sometimes in the house that the car "belongs" to just somewhere randomly or even like

where it's coded to be "in the door" of the car ??

[echo coral]

ive literally never found a car with a key in b42

[wicked galleon]

and you dont get the key until you sit in the seat of the side it's in

[echo coral]

especially not with one in the ignition

like i only have around 100 hours on b42, i havent played a ton since it came out but still

[rigid star]

I always set infection time to instant, can’t stand the agony of waiting if I‘m infected or not

[vast torrent]

That must be why I always end up dying from getting sick, so I should avoid hand-to-hand combat with zombies.

[wicked galleon]

literally just kill zombies that are near a car and pray

cause thats the only consistent way ik of

aside from looking at the ground nearby

[echo coral]

you should actually almost always do hand to hand combat with zombies, just never ever get hit if you can help it

if you shoot a gun, every zombie in the surrounding area will start drifting towards you

[wicked galleon]

well there's a really important detail to separate being sick from zeds being nearby and being sick from injuries/bites
you can get sick from being near them as well, its called corpse sickness

that happens even when you're not injured by them

[rigid star]

If you‘re new I‘d advice enabling multi hit and zombie outlines. That way you‘ll see when you actually hit zombies. That way you can learn the timing. Shoving (spacebar) is your best friend. Keep them at a safe distance

[echo coral]

only time you should main guns is if you have like 200 boxes of gun ammo just laying around and good aiming skill level

[echo coral]

imo just run zombie outlines even if ur a vet

the targeting system is legit wack as fuck sometimes

[vast torrent]

Are there silencers in this game? I have weapons at the base, but they attract more zombies than I can handle.

[echo coral]

you'll target a zombie behind the one you want to hit and then get mauled by the one closer to you lmao

[twin blade]

No silencers

[echo coral]

iirc they fixed a few instances of this but it still happens sometimes

[proud beacon]

Do car to zombie combat :3

[twin blade]

Theres mods Im sure tho

[rigid star]

There are mods that add silencers

[echo coral]

how to ruin an engine in 3 seconds:

[broken flume]

I've supposedly found the keys to a fuel tanker.

[echo coral]

idm roadkilling like 1 straggler or maybe 2 at med speeds

[broken flume]

this is good news, because coincidentally I've also found the keys of a semi

[echo coral]

but running any car into like 50 zombies at once WRECKS the condition

[rigid star]

I still don’t understand the investigation system in B42

[covert dune]

afaik this was changed to not do that in b42 anymore? at least it doesnt with buildings

[wicked galleon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/136501320340209664/1363005647075147947/image.png?ex=6a04a42d&is=6a0352ad&hm=72d945fab8a8e176864b09cb4774c7be242e4f7df2b952cc1188ac261870dadd

[echo coral]

OH YOU MEAN LIKE THAT

[wicked galleon]

goofy gun maining

[echo coral]

zomboid physics is something else

[broken flume]

i try very hard to avoid zombies in the road, and when im clearing zombs i try to kill them in the grass to keep the roads clear for my vehicle

[wicked galleon]

oh well not necessarily that they just spawn keys, although i think that might've been for buildings specifically, i just meant more that you gotta get lucky that the ones that do exist near it have the key

[vast torrent]

If you‘re new I‘d advice enabling multi hit and zombie outlines. That way you‘ll see when you actually hit zombies. That way you can learn the timing. Shoving (spacebar) is your best friend. Keep them at a safe distance

[echo coral]

sacrificial shitbox car used as a flail lmao

[covert dune]

oooh hahaa i see i see

[broken flume]

this gif makes me very sad, because in b42 you would be moving 0.1 mph

[echo coral]

did you just copy paste what he said 😭

[rigid star]

😭😭

[proud beacon]

They nerfed my favorite way of fighting ??

[wicked galleon]

indeed, you now are handicapped hard when towing

no amount of speed demon will save you

[echo coral]

insert the "i hate fun" gif

real visualization of pz devs

(joking)

[vast torrent]

did you just copy paste what he said 😭

Hahah

[hoary gazelle]

I don't get the point of these specialty trade trucks when all you find in them is stuff like this? No books. Not even a glass blowing pipe.

[vast torrent]

I don't speak English, I'm sorry @echo coral

[wicked galleon]

are the specialty trade trucks that horrendous?

[vast torrent]

🙂‍↕️

[twin blade]

I mean charcoal is nice

[wicked galleon]

yikes

[echo coral]

oh ur using a translator that makes sense

[wicked galleon]

i dont know if he can translate "ur"

so that might also cause some issues

[echo coral]

ah right

[hoary gazelle]

What's special about charcoal?

[twin blade]

You can cook with it

On a grill

[vast torrent]

How do I get a car initially?

[echo coral]

lowkey the only consistently good use of ai ive noticed was as a translation aid/tool, helps a ton with translating slang and colloquialisms

[hoary gazelle]

You can cook with wood. You don't even have to cut it. It's lying on the ground.

[echo coral]

fuck like 90% of ai use cases but ai translators can have my firstborn

[rigid star]

You can either be lucky and find one in good condition with the key nearby or you can use the burgler occupation and hotwire a car in good condition

[twin blade]

But charcoal burns longer

[wicked galleon]

you must find keys that might be on the ground, on nearby zombies, or in a house that the car belongs to
after that, if the car has no gas, then you must find a container and a hose to siphon gas from nearby cars
that, or you can get two mechanics skill and one electrical skill to learn how to hotwire

[copper stratus]

luckyy asf spawn

[echo coral]

if ur running default settings most of the cars will be trashed and out of fuel
and there will be absolutely no key in sight anywhere because thank you TIS

it used to be that some cars would have keys stuck in ignition

[hoary gazelle]

In apoc? I find them all the time.

[echo coral]

but i havent seen that happening in a long long time

[rigid star]

In apocalypse I find keys all the time

[echo coral]

must just be me then

[rigid star]

Most of the time a nearby zombie has it

[copper stratus]

in exctinction

[hoary gazelle]

Nearby buildings, on the ground, glove compartments, key chains in containers, sometimes zeds...

[copper stratus]

they move around alot

and in b42 they changed how keys work

so if they get distracted by meta event or alarm

they are baiscally gone forever

[rigid star]

Also a few where the key is in the ignition

Very rare tho

[copper stratus]

unless you get weirdly lucky and find them on the area alarm was at

[echo coral]

i once literally hit shout on purpose to just get the zombies to come over so i could find the key

with global inventory

[rigid star]

😭

[echo coral]

i couldnt find the damn thing at all

[hoary gazelle]

I'm not 100% sure that still works. Zeds close to the thing spawning keys for the thing I mean.

[rigid star]

I think you can also use investigation mode near the car to find it

Not sure though, saw someone do that

[echo coral]

something like 120 zombies killed and not one had a key for ANY car in the lot btw

[hoary gazelle]

You can still spot those. Unless theyr'e behind something. I don't think they pop up foraging-style.

[echo coral]

i was trying to find it for a chevalier dart in good condition (around 70% on most parts), but i couldnt find ANY key for the entire lot

its on some bs

[hoary gazelle]

Yeah, when I find them on a zed, it's early game and there haven't been 20 house alarms yet.

[echo coral]

true

since i was able to pretty confidently kill 120 converging zomboids i think it was like a good 3-4 weeks in

[hoary gazelle]

But that did use to work. Killing a couple dozen to try and get a key to spawn.

[rigid star]

I saw a car in front of a Motel and the key was in a cabinet in one of the Motel rooms so you might have to check nearby buildings as well

[echo coral]

im ngl a lot of the new guns look interesting

[hoary gazelle]

Lots of those. Especially in hardware stores, which tend to have containers with lots of keychains.

[echo coral]

i still wish they'd buff bolties

[broken flume]

just a wee bit scratched

[echo coral]

they're so mid

[echo coral]

burn ward patient?

[rigid star]

Do they have piercing damage

[echo coral]

yes but piercing 2 or 3 aint worth it when you gotta rechamber every shot

[rigid star]

Yeah should be like 5 or sth

[foggy sparrow]

me and my bud cant get this shit figured out

no fuckin zombies

how we supposed to play a zombie game

with no zombies

[empty jasper]

Did you turn zombies off?

Cause that'd do that

[foggy sparrow]

no, i put a bug report in, we had zombies on insane

only event zombies spawn, like the car crashes and stuff like that

[empty jasper]

Are you running any mods?

[foggy sparrow]

the most action we got was killing like 6 police zombies and 4 regular zombies at that mass shooting/police checkpoint event

we had a run doing mods, disabled them and remade the server

[echo coral]

so did the m14 get renamed to m1a or is the wiki a lyin bih

[foggy sparrow]

didnt fix anything

[true grove]

anyone else's mp crash after click to start on 42.18?

[lofty plank]

Many ways.

1. Look for keys in the ignition or glovebox

2. Look for keys on the ground around the car you want. Look very closely. Keys are small

3. Look in containers around the car you want. Sometimes car keys can be in those containers.

4. this is very obscure and prolly many players dont know about this, so im gonna do a service here. You can find car keys stuck into car doors.

5. Just select thief in the job menu and hotwire.

[foggy sparrow]

i saw on reddit someone had the same issue a month ago and they "deleted the pz.ini file" but i cant even find that

neither me or him can

[twin blade]

Yo I saw a reel about the door thing recently

[rigid star]

4. huh????? How do you remove them

You learn sth new every day with this game

[twin blade]

You gotta break into the car and lock the door or something

Or unlock

I forgot

[lofty plank]

Manually try to open every car door.

[empty jasper]

Takes me back to my very first death elbowing a window and not knowing how to bandage all for a car.

[lofty plank]

Hold v > open

[rigid star]

Me but jumping through a broken window

[lofty plank]

on every car door on every side.

[empty jasper]

Learned that one the hard way as well

[rigid star]

There is a mod that automatically makes you check for the key and pick it up if its in the door, you even get a notification

Gonna add that one asap

[twin blade]

Yeah

[vast folio]

can i add mods to an in progress game

[rigid star]

Yes

[thorny quiver]

Not recommended

[rigid star]

But can mess it up

[empty jasper]

Not advisable

[vast folio]

it’s just a simple one

i want the get propane from gas station mods

mod

[thorny quiver]

Wouldnt work

[vast folio]

okay

[thorny quiver]

Mods that spawn in new loot dont like existing saves and this sounds akin

It may side step it but yea

[vast folio]

well it doesn’t spawn anything

it makes it so you can fill propane tanks from gas stations

[thorny quiver]

Oh like with gas?

[vast folio]

yes

[thorny quiver]

OH lmao

[rugged lark]

hey has anyone had issues of crashing on launch?

[rigid star]

I added a mod that lets me change sandbox settings mid game to an existing save and that worked

[brave aspen]

Guys

[thorny quiver]

I thought you meant adding whole new propane to gas pumps

[vast folio]

no

[thorny quiver]

Yea that'll probably work

[vast folio]

okay

i’m tired of not having propane

shits rarer than sin

[rigid star]

Go to your Saves and go to Mods, there you can add the mod if you subscribed to it

But back up the save just in case tbh

[empty jasper]

Propane grills in a lot of back yards not very rare tbh unless you have loot set that extremely low

[vast folio]

and if i need 20+ propane tanks

[empty jasper]

20 houses? There's a lot of them bud

[broken flume]

I have that mod as well. I find it really annoying to go into the files to change settings, and my sandbox setting isn't always perfect on the first try (or first dozen tries). Being able to change it ingame is really helpful

[vast folio]

and the fact that the backyard ones usually have 70% or less propane in them

[empty jasper]

Starting to sound more like laziness than lack of loot there bud lol

[broken flume]

theres a propane mod that lets you refill at industrial pumps

[broken flume]

propane tanks are pretty annoying to find

they arent that common

[vast folio]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-discord-4chan-reddit-gif-12469709983918782970

[empty jasper]

Never had aab issue finding them unless I set loot to nearly non existent

[broken flume]

they spawn primarily in warehouses and backyard grills (which u can find easily on the map website). past that.... it's hard to find them

[vast folio]

damn

[buoyant belfry]

Some mods break and break your game.

Do a fresh install EVERY update: new game. No mods. Fresh and clean install of Zomboid

[abstract ingot]

how do i acess vx

vc

[empty jasper]

Between them. Propane lantern bottles and torches never ran out in any save I had going

[broken flume]

finding them isnt that hard i was talking about if you need a lot of it i.e. metalworking / blacksmithing

[rigid star]

Is that really recommended? Dump every mod after an update and add them back?

[empty jasper]

I literally had to stockpile a metric ton of them for a workshop I was building it ain't that hard lmaao

[broken flume]

i've never done that personally. if the game updates i try and load my saves and if they break i start new saves and if the game still isnt working then there are mod conflicts with the new update so i troubleshoot those mods

[rugged lark]

it was the guns i had installed

[broken flume]

the only time i remove all mods is if its been a while since ive played and i want to start a new modlist and my autistic ass cant do a modlist without wiping everything first and starting new

[empty jasper]

I'm not even saying that the mod isn't worthwhile but like it's not that it's hard to find it's just a matter of less effort. But my point stands it ain't hard.

[broken flume]

Fingers crossed for finding a gas can in the gas station

[buoyant belfry]

DAVE’S PRO TIP: HOW TO FRESH INSTAll

1- navigate to users - your profile. Delete the zomboid folder. This Perma deletes your saves, game info, old characters. Etc.

2- un-install game via steam.

3- Reinstall game.

4 load up the game. Load up the main menu. This rebuilds a fresh, squeaky clean “zomboid” folder you deleted in step 1.

POOF! Fresh vanilla PZ risk of errors, glitches and crashes are at the lowest possible risk

[empty jasper]

Search trunks on the way 👍

[buoyant belfry]

That’s what I do. Better to have all the correct data than some corrupt data

B42.18 Roxy.

Cuteness skill is maxed at 11

[rigid star]

Huh, guess I‘ll do that for the big Build updates then, thanks

[copper stratus]

How rare is this? I got extremely lucky lmfao

extinction run

[lofty plank]

This giving me anxiety

[copper stratus]

day 1 for extinction is not bad

[rotund basalt]

def lucky

[copper stratus]

for the new wipe i did for update

claustrophobic be like

[lofty plank]

Not sure. I think thats pretty rare tho. Never seen this story.

[spiral zinc]

do yall know why I'm locked out of voice call in the call channel?

[copper stratus]

#enable_voice_chat_here

[wicked galleon]

are apocalypse zombies much weaker than extinction ones?

[copper stratus]

yes

[wicked galleon]

hp wise?

[copper stratus]

in extinction they have superhuman strength

[wicked galleon]

i just started the same 1 strength build i had before across both saves and it takes noticeably less stomps

[copper stratus]

and toughneess

[lofty plank]

They tank more and they are more stronk.

[wicked galleon]

oh thats why some of them instashatter windows

no wonder lmfao

[lofty plank]

Yup.

[copper stratus]

takes like 2-3 to insta break doors

[wicked galleon]

yeahhh noticed that too

i could NOT take my time

[copper stratus]

they also have a 10 percent chance to open windows and doors

[wicked galleon]

wait what

[copper stratus]

yup

lock your doors

[wicked galleon]

thats fucking crazy lmao

[copper stratus]

: D

id have to double check the sandbox settings rq

[rigid star]

They made them smart in Extinction? 😭

[copper stratus]

very slightly so ye

[rigid star]

I‘m not touching that mode

[lofty plank]

I like sprinter apocalypse. Im not a fan of inhuman stronk zombies

[wicked galleon]

is this calculated per attempt or per zombie

[lofty plank]

I think its a damage calculation more than number?

[copper stratus]

oop thats my preset

but i havent tweak those settings in my preset

[wicked galleon]

lmao

[zenith peak]

Pro-tip -- after uninstalling, delete steamapps/common/Project Zomboid after uninstalling to remove any leftover files/folders from previous mod installations.

From what I've seen this is one of the most common causes of the game failing to launch / getting stuck at black screen at startup after an update.

(deleting the /saves folder from User/Zomboid isn't always necessary if you want to retain your save files 🙂 )

[copper stratus]

lemme double check

yeah its the same

[rigid star]

I‘m a sucker for realism, I wish you could make it so sharp weapons instakill on a headshot while blunts dont

[wicked galleon]

yeah alright thats pretty fucked

[copper stratus]

the only thing ive changed in extinction is turn off planting seasons and made gas extremely more rarer than extinction

[lofty plank]

Anything level 10 can basically 1 tap every time

[wicked galleon]

actually have to minmax and take things a really particular way

[lofty plank]

[copper stratus]

they have long memory

so they can chase alot alot farther

[wicked galleon]

that explains why my weapons testing was very fluctuated

also nice to know spears are still great in that mode as well

[copper stratus]

discomfort is also higher in extinction

and guns jam slightly more often

oh and

firearms make way more noise

about .25 more

[wicked galleon]

yeah alright makes sense

[copper stratus]

not much more but more

[wicked galleon]

so you cant even skillfully game it, you have to take your time

[copper stratus]

these are animal settings

make sure to close hutch at night

[rigid star]

Yeah but I want sharp weapons to do that even at level 1

[wicked galleon]

cause rng over an extreme amount of time is just a longer form of guaranteed

[rigid star]

But just sharp weapons

[wicked galleon]

maybe ill approach extinction again one day but it seems i cant stroll through it with the same build and ideas as before

i was gonna just treat it as slightly harder apocalypse and call it my default but

nope....

[copper stratus]

per zombie

[wicked galleon]

interesting, aight

[sour pine]

sooo what do pigs produce when they're living?

I found a trailer with two of them

[lofty plank]

Co2

[copper stratus]

shit

and you can butcher them for meat

and babies

[sour pine]

can I kill zeds with this

[lofty plank]

No, you can ruin the planet tho!

[empty jasper]

Very long term? Yes.

You won't live that long though...none of us will sadly. Takes a lot to finish of the atmosphere

[lofty plank]

So, today my bull turned into a cow

And im not even joking here.

[empty jasper]

Damn it's 2026 and all but cows jumping on the bandwagon too? We've come so far.

[lofty plank]

I have LGBT+ farm animals

Wha do you have

[junior viper]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-gif-13246854

[broken flume]

Turns out, you can milk those

[wicked galleon]

i would highly not recommend it however

[broken flume]

Chat where do i get fucking gas can

[wicked galleon]

car trunks

[broken flume]

well i guess technically not needed

[wicked galleon]

absurdly high amount of them

[lofty plank]

Like, literally everywhere.

[broken flume]

can i fill other containers with gas machine

i have the hose

[wicked galleon]

yeah

[broken flume]

thanks

[junior viper]

abundant in car trunks and mechanics shops

[wicked galleon]

you can do a water bottle filled with gas

[willow ginkgo]

Yall I killed my friend after he got bit did I do good?

[lofty plank]

You just need a Hoe and a container to siphon gas

[junior viper]

also the shops in gas stations tend to have them

[empty jasper]

Yes

[lofty plank]

yes

[willow ginkgo]

Aw hell yea

[lofty plank]

a real man drink bleech. He forced you to do it

[junior viper]

IDK if forced

[willow ginkgo]

How much better does ingame vc make the game?

[junior viper]

he sounds pretty happy about it

[wicked galleon]

apoc is literally like 10x easier than extinction

incredible

[empty jasper]

I'd just light myself on fire over bleach takes care of the later stages of reanimation

[lofty plank]

Yeah Apoc is very relaxed, compared.

[lofty plank]

I usually go on "die in a blaze of glory" strat

[junior viper]

We got lost in that cave! We were forced to eat human flesh to survive...
You're the only one who did that and we were just lost for six hours you freak!
I'm hypoglicemic!

[empty jasper]

If by blaze of glory you mean chug vodka. Strip down, set self on fire and hug the zombies? Than yeah I do that I spose lol

[lofty plank]

Thats exactly what it is

but with guns and pipe bombs involved too

[empty jasper]

Eh I prefer to kill them with love and affection..seems more creepy that way

[buoyant belfry]

Roxy can’t kill cute zombies

[lofty plank]

Do you have have Authentic Z?

Trying to understand if i broke something or if the mod is broken.

Every piece of clothing is like "Authentic.z_somebullshit_morebullshit"

[vapid sorrel]

Son

[copper stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[delicate shoal]

Who wants to play? I'm new.

[vapid sorrel]

ropemaxx

just kidding

just kidding

[copper stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[delicate shoal]

🙅

[lofty plank]

#1019737819981283459 new is the new "i cant read" i suppose

[delicate shoal]

do u have to talk to me like that?

Bruh....

[tawny osprey]

are wells source of infinite water?

[buoyant belfry]

Yes the mod is broken.

There is a patch to get it to work in current unstable

[lofty plank]

Oh really? does it work in MP? I own a server.

[buoyant belfry]

100% I have it on my dedicated server

[lofty plank]

Noice! Mind if i ask for the workshop link?

[buoyant belfry]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3717920300

[vapid sorrel]

No

[buoyant belfry]

There are 3 versions. Use the patch for the version of AuthZ you download.

Don’t mess up full + lite patch = game breaks

[lofty plank]

Oh jeez.

Let me run a backup first.

[broken flume]

gonna just change the start time to 5 or 6 in the morning istg wakeful be messing your first few nights of sleep

i just realized the issue is the starting point

cause i wasnt tired at 1am but i slept cause it was dark and woke up at 4am

and became tired at 4pm

cuz it starts at 9am rather than 5-6am

[wicked galleon]

oh yeah, this really depends on what you're doing

[broken flume]

<50 zombs

just wakeful things

i forgot to mention

[wicked galleon]

wakeful is really nice for getting extra hours to sort out your base or organize road trips but its also weird in how it interacts

do you drink alcohol, jog, exercise, or wear lots of clothes?

[broken flume]

yeah i love wakeful i just dont like the first few nights of sorting out your sleep schedule

[last bramble]

i was playing a recently new roblox game, can you tell whats wrong with this screenshot

[broken flume]

Nah im telling you its because the first day starts at 9am. Completely pushes everything forward

[wicked galleon]

oh wait i see wym

[lofty saddle]

stolen moodle

[rugged lark]

did a fresh install still crashes on launch no mods too

[lofty plank]

https://klipy.com/gifs/quello-esatto--k01KRFN6HGSPD8ZED4NX25S8MGY

[broken flume]

it's just that, you kinda have to set your second day up for failure to correct your schedule

[wicked galleon]

ive not had that issue primarily

[broken flume]

you have to sleep on your first night you cant stay awake until day otherwise youll be giga tired

[wicked galleon]

but i do have a schedule correction in my first 2 days

just by experience i picked it up

[lofty saddle]

maybe theyre just a giga chad

[broken flume]

ive just had an annoying habit of becoming tired in the early afternoon on my second day

sooo

[wicked galleon]

yeah

[broken flume]

im just gonna roll back the clock in the future

days start at 6am

[wicked galleon]

in my first night i usually go to sleep at 2am and wake up in time for the cook show

i also dont take restless sleeper, which automatically sets your fatigue level to some percentage already upon waking up

[broken flume]

restless sleeper is so grief

probably one of the worst

[wicked galleon]

after that it depends entirely on when i get the tired moodle

if i have the tired moodle and i just got it at 1am, i sleep right then

oops

i sleep at 1:30

[wicked galleon]

second tier of it* i mean

completely and inhumanely tired at 12 on the dot usually makes you wake up at 6

thats kinda how i worked around it

[wicked galleon]

i only have that issue when i exercise or wear certain clothes

elevated body temperature griefs your fatigue too, even if you dont have the heat moodle

[wicked galleon]

yeah im not a big fan of it

ik some people schedule afternoon naps though

[buoyant belfry]

Every mod from 42.17 I have is working in 42.18.

Actually DELETED mods cause the fixes make several mods redundant

-I.e. clothing no longer poofs away and makes you naked in MP

[last bramble]

theres also a r6 texture, and an scp secret lab sound effect

so much here

[wicked galleon]

does stress passively decrease by itself, and is the decrese disabled by things like panic, etc

[lofty plank]

Im trying to install clothing mods on my server but b42 broke everything. So im kinda struggling.

Now im trying to load this fix, lets hope it dsnt destroy the fiber of the universe.

[lofty saddle]

you guys gotta wait for stable

[lofty plank]

My man, stable is years away. We cant really wait for stable.

Also we have modders that release fixes, we can work with it.

[haughty willow]

Does sitting down to read actually make you read faster or are YouTube shorts lying to me

[lofty saddle]

idk why you guys in this chat think its years away. its likely coming this year according to the updates ive read

[lofty plank]

Thats your free interpretation of what you read. Theres no ETA or release date as they stated multiple times

[lofty saddle]

its not "years" away

[lofty plank]

Could be.

[haughty willow]

I respect the cope

[buoyant belfry]

I am mr fix it!

let me know the mods.

MOST clothing broke because of b42, changing the base model format. Any mod that has not been updated since 42.12 consider unusable unless you test it.

I have tested most of them. Look for Jane Helldiver in mod comment sections. If she says “works in B42.17 both solo and MP” that’s me confirming the mod works

[lofty plank]

Is the shroedinger cat of release dates.

[lofty plank]

I love you. Let me give you a smooch

[buoyant belfry]

Clothing mods are my #1 choice in mods

[stark turret]

im a pantless plunderer

[buoyant belfry]

There are also a TON of unofficial parches as mod authors are MIA. “I need more fashion” has been fixed. “panty raiders” has been fixed, etc.

[lofty plank]

Yeah i failed to think about fixes, every clothing i installed bricked the server.

[buoyant belfry]

Community packs have also resurrected long dead mods in groups.

So there is a mod for posters, pinups and centerfolds in magazines that is now just ONE mod

[stark turret]

i cant wait for the day that ki5 makes all his cars into one mod

[lofty plank]

Uhu? share!

[tawny osprey]

I forgot I cant cross the river whit the car :<

[lofty plank]

yes you can!!!!

[buoyant belfry]

Yeah they will brick it cause of the new coding.

B41 used to say things like base:normal.tshirt.

now its base:clothing.tshirt.

plus changes to other code stuffs

[lofty plank]

You just have to work for it Tuaro 😛

[stark turret]

it looks like you can if you demlolish some of those rocks

[bright sparrow]

where the heck is that

[buoyant belfry]

I have 20 of his mods on b42.18. Cars come after clothes

[tawny osprey]

Im heading to the abandoned Boarding School in the forest

the red square is where I am

[tawny osprey]

no it can't

[hollow condor]

must I disinfect a scratch?

[stark turret]

cars are first for me, then gameplay additions, and then gun mods

[hollow condor]

do I have to disinfect a scratch? It also says I’m not bleeding, so do I have to bandage it?

isn’t there also a slight chance you are infected by a scratch

[stark turret]

you dont have to disinfect, but you do have to bandage it

the wound infection (not the knox virus) just makes your wound take longer to heal

[hollow condor]

I see

[tawny osprey]

to give you more idea where is located

[hollow condor]

it says I’m not bleeding though

so I still bandage it?

[stark turret]

yes

[hollow condor]

alright then

[stark turret]

you always want to bandage a wound, even with deep wounds you want to stitch it, and then bandage it

[hollow condor]

I see

[toxic bloom]

what a rude thing to find in the road

[hollow condor]

can’t you make bandages with clothes?

[toxic bloom]

you can make rags

which are low quality bandages

[hollow condor]

I see

Alrogjt

alright+

so you just have to switch them more often?

[lofty plank]

@buoyant belfry Do you have a modpack of your own Dave?

[buoyant belfry]

Same with common sense. Sadly Braven has not even logged into their steam account for at least 11 months. None of us know where they went.

But don’t use the old mod. Use Common Sense Reborn. It’s a remake. Updated and maintained

[iron python]

Could just be invisible like I am

[hollow condor]

and can’t you make bandages with sheets too?

[lofty plank]

im trying to install common sense as we speak, bricked the server

[buoyant belfry]

No mod pack. I Hate modpacks

[lofty plank]

Now im removing it and trying again.

[buoyant belfry]

Cause broken.

Use common sense reborn

[junior viper]

It was added in one of the patches of the last 2 months, I don't remember which specifically.
Reading glasses also boost reading speed.

[tawny osprey]

Im finally here!

[haughty willow]

Sweeet. Ty. Time to hunt for reading glasses

[lofty plank]

still trying to make Authentic Z work

Broccoli is very slow to restart

[buoyant belfry]

Works in B42.18 both solo and MP

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3698958906

[buoyant belfry]

Same service I used for the last 6 years

[lofty plank]

Yeah its good. Very slow on restarts tho

[buoyant belfry]

[hollow condor]

what things might schools have

[buoyant belfry]

Mine takes like 3 minutes max.

Check your server region

[hollow condor]

that are useful

[lofty plank]

Guns, backpacks, skillbooks

[hollow condor]

guns?

[lofty plank]

Of course. American school.

[hollow condor]

I see

[tawny osprey]

is full of trash

[bright sparrow]

books and baseball bats

also hockey neck guards

[lofty plank]

and chocolate.

A lot of chocolate.

[buoyant belfry]

Lots of candy and junk food too. Chips, candy, chocolate.

[tawny osprey]

who the hell left a omellete in a locker

[lime moss]

🤔 How do I do a bugreport on here?

[cobalt stone]

mods can you add clickers to the game so we can clicker train zomboids

and possibly animals too

[buoyant belfry]

Make sure mods you install DON’T include submods. I.e. for authZ use MAIN or LITE. Do NOT install both into the server .ini file.

[toxic bloom]

if all you've got is a whole in game day to forage and craft a supply of weapons... make some crude axes > chop down some trees > make fire hardened spears is about the best you can hope for without any advanced workstations right?

[stark turret]

yeah

[buoyant belfry]

Lastly, do you know about the requirement of usinf a backslash for mods? The \ symbol?

[bleak dust]

pft, not even a cheese omelette

bs

[buoyant belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/omelette-dexter-laboratory-whisper-gif-15038986

[lofty plank]

Yeah, i think i did exactly that, just noticed i ddnt erase every auth z mod id

sigh

[lofty plank]

Uh?

[buoyant belfry]

If you want, join my discord and we can talk in my mod support channel.

I’m a self proclaimed expert on both PZ servers as well as Indifferent broccoli

[lofty plank]

dm me

[cobalt stone]

@cloud ore add clickers to the dog mod so we can clicker trian zomboids please 🙏

[junior viper]

Why are you obsessed with clicker training lately?

[tawny osprey]

how the fuck is a buss in the middle of a ghost school forest?!

[cobalt stone]

why are you asking about clicker training 🧐

very strange of you

[junior viper]

IG that's how the refugees turned zombie got to that abandoned school

[simple cipher]

Pfff, genius defence

[buoyant belfry]

FR sent then server invite.

[simple cipher]

no wonder this schmuck didn't make it

[tawny osprey]

they have a pool table outside the bathrooms

[simple cipher]

'The dead don't know how to do limbo, I'll be totally fine!'

[junior viper]

I like your UI arrangement

[sweet night]

Does B42 Outdated Unstable gets updated to always be one version older or does it stay the same version overall?

[simple cipher]

'hey you touched the plank, you cheated! AARRGHH'

[hollow condor]

when does my laceration stop bleeding

[simple cipher]

give it time

depends if you got the slow healer trait too

[hollow condor]

I mean it just happened, but I’m short on bandages so I’m wondering

I do have 11 rags though

[junior viper]

And?

[simple cipher]

best to sterilise them, the wound will also get infected

[hollow condor]

I’ve got wipes

[simple cipher]

ok you're good then

[hollow condor]

what else can you use

[tawny osprey]

did you see pool tables outside bathrooms?

[hollow condor]

what else can you use to clean the wound

[junior viper]

Whoever took refuge there dragged it out?

[cobalt stone]

btw hasicod do you think zomboid is stable enough for mp again

[simple cipher]

you can use a cooking pot to boil water to sterilise rags

[hollow condor]

I see

[simple cipher]

its pretty much alcohol wipes with less steps

[junior viper]

No, that's why I haven't said anything in the server

It's getting breaking updates every month or so

[hollow condor]

ok I disinfected it

[junior viper]

we barely get to the mid game and lose the save

[cobalt stone]

havent you asked kat for some mp?

[hollow condor]

and there’s a bandage on it

[tawny osprey]

mmm maybe, this place otherwise is huge

[junior viper]

thats one thing in SP but for MP its pretty bad

[junior viper]

Yeah, one person for a oneshot, not the whole gang for a long term game

[cobalt stone]

fair

we should try other games to one-shot

[junior viper]

losing an SP run to an update is one thing, but losing an MP run where you did everything in real time, pass

[median sky]

ngl rn its either mods on and you just accept the fact youll be restarting every other day or dont and just play vanilla, though not everyone like vanilla

[bleak dust]

honestly pz should make it so server owners can speed up servers

[junior viper]

Even vanilla breaks when the changes are big enough

[tawny osprey]

this place have iron ovens in every room wtf

[bleak dust]

even if its not the same way

like maybe 1.25 to 1.50

[twin rivet]

Does the outdated unstable branch always lag 1 update behind? Can you prolong needing to restart to every other update by switching?

[junior viper]

Didn't expect the bookshelves to be populated. Any skillbooks?

[buoyant belfry]

Boil water. A pot will sterilize 4 or 5 rags or bandages.

Sterilized bandages will clean your wounds pretty quickly.

[bleak dust]

yes

so make it so you gotta manually update

[hollow condor]

what the hell is at a breaking point

[bleak dust]

and before you do it

switch

[buoyant belfry]

You can freeze game updates. Only update when you WANT to update

[tawny osprey]

nothing, are just hobo loot: trash, some soda cans, or beer ones, rarely anything useful

and trash

alot of trash

[hollow condor]

it says I’m at a breaking point

[tawny osprey]

I told ya this place is abandoned

[hollow condor]

how do I fix that

[twin rivet]

Got it, thanks

[tawny osprey]

I mean, come one, one of the bathrooms have this loot wtf

[junior viper]

I know, and you can also save a whole local copy of the game, and a local copy of the mods, and I assume there's a way to make the game read from the stable mods instead of the mods folder for the active game

[hollow condor]

how do I fix the breaking point

[junior viper]

I'd have no idea how to enforce this for a group of 5 people

[hollow condor]

it say I’m at a breaking point

[junior viper]

bad at following instructions

[median sky]

not as often but i dont doubt it happens

[winter minnow]

Random BS go

[junior viper]

who also refuse to read to boot

[bleak dust]

i think 16 was a breaker

from 15

[median sky]

thats stress

[bleak dust]

if I remember right

[cobalt stone]

haiscod

[junior viper]

Frankly that sounds complicated enough that I don't wanna bother

[cobalt stone]

whats your opinion on freidslop

[junior viper]

that's a mood

[median sky]

fr

[junior viper]

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-escobar-pablo-stan-twt-standing-grandpa-gif-15901735077073339091

[median sky]

stress is just apart of life atp

[buoyant belfry]

Just freeze the appmanifest on steam. Setting it to read only will perma-freeze all updates. Steam tries to write to the file and it fails so you’ll get a “failed to update” error on steam.

But 100% game still runs and works

[toxic bloom]

i love the highs and lows of this game... 2 days ago i woke up to surprise zombies in my house which led to an awful day fighting and running for my life
today I'm having a peaceful walk through the woods and eating a feast of foraged berries

[bleak dust]

i slept with my bedroom door open aftera month of no stress nights, woke up at 230 am with stress

[junior viper]

so how do you get everyone in the MP group to also not update their mods and base game?

[tawny osprey]

HOLY SHIT I FOUND THE DIRECTOR'S ROOM

Man is a shame there is no electricity but this looks su good

[hollow condor]

so I just read?

[copper stratus]

i think i found someones nudes

[tawny osprey]

hehe, fancy

[toxic bloom]

how are wood spades as a makeshift weapon?

[median sky]

just find the reason behind the stress should help, if you got hurt by a zombie you might be infected

[toxic bloom]

like in comparison to a stone or a branch

[median sky]

just make wooden steaks or spears ngl

theyre cheap and easy to make

[bleak dust]

well its lighter than a branch

[tawny osprey]

wtf is this bathroom desing?!

[buoyant belfry]

Tell them how to do it.

Same as back in B41 with broken zeds. EVERYONE had to install “zombie fix” for the MP server to run correctly.

So me as admin required verification before someone even joined the server

[median sky]

new york

[bleak dust]

i wouldn't use a wooden spade as a weapon personally unless I had to

[tawny osprey]

yo go to the restroom next the library whit a toilet wtf

[bleak dust]

but im sure it would work for a bit

[median sky]

i think thats a study actually-

[empty jasper]

I'd prefer a club. Hearts are useless and diamonds? Well they're in the rough

[median sky]

clubs are blunt, hearts are cold, diamonds are rough, and spades are spades

[tawny osprey]

what study has a toilet next a bookshelf

[buoyant belfry]

Looks like a den/office with a small bathroom. Someone worked at home

[empty jasper]

Actually no. A diamond encrusted baseball bat would be like .... painful to be hit with. Devs where's my diamond encrusted ba????

[median sky]

a rich persons study

[hollow condor]

well that isn’t good news

I got a laceration from a zombie

[tawny osprey]

atleast the main room has a fancy fireplace :>

[median sky]

ive been inside them rich folk houses before, they got bathrooms everywhere, one by the front door, 1 near the guest room and 1 in the master bed, they just really like their bathrooms

[tawny osprey]

bruh

[buoyant belfry]

Theres a mod for that

[empty jasper]

I was thinking vanilla... obviously there's a mod for nearly everything

In due time I says

[bleak dust]

theres a mod that makes you afraid to run jump fences

[tawny osprey]

... the fucking clock is working

Im so fucking scared right now

[median sky]

just kill the clock

[ruby saddle]

Hello Beautiful peaples

[toxic bloom]

i really enjoy this feature

[unreal gale]

is there somewhere not in this server to find people to play with on zomboid?

[lofty plank]

insert hook smashing clocks

[ruby saddle]

thats badass

thats a feature I've wanted

like give us those digital bank clocks that are outside banks

with the time/temp

[tawny osprey]

what clock do to you

[median sky]

500 set alarm clocks

https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7999465420984481267

[ruby saddle]

500 digital watches

[tawny osprey]

yeah is badass and cool but we speaking a fucking abandoned school in the middle of the forest AND THE CLOCK IS WORKING

[ruby saddle]

wait till it strikes 13

[cloud topaz]

I'm stuck inside my rv haha, anyone know a way to escape outside dev?

[tawny osprey]

nobody tell me PZ added ghosts

[median sky]

right click

[ruby saddle]

pz has always been an occult horror

[buoyant belfry]

#1019737819981283459

[tawny osprey]

it happens...

[lofty plank]

Authentic z is working now...

[ruby saddle]

I got all the ingredients to make spring rolls tommorow

[lofty plank]

phew...

[buoyant belfry]

Post on steam that you are looking for players? Go to server hosting sites like gportal and ask?

[ruby saddle]

I dont even like spring rolls that much

[lofty plank]

Thanks again Dave

[bleak dust]

thats in this server though

he said not in this server

[empty jasper]

Could try friends? Maybe gift them a copy of PZ

[buoyant belfry]

My new fav pic randomly stolen from random person

[bleak dust]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-made-creator-stolen-gif-20229431

[ruby saddle]

I've never wanted to visit Hyrule before

[buoyant belfry]

I have gifted PZ like….. 200 times?

[lofty plank]

same

[bleak dust]

i have 4 times

[empty jasper]

See, we can't be friends now cause like... you're rich and I'm not.

[tawny osprey]

now a nice plaza

[ruby saddle]

I gifted it 4 times Dave, nobody plays it

[buoyant belfry]

I know the future. Remake of OOT is coming

[bleak dust]

lol same

same exact story

same exact number

[ruby saddle]

also 2 people turned off the soundtrack and were blasting dubstep in the mp

[bleak dust]

bought a 4 pack

[ruby saddle]

I unfriended them

[buoyant belfry]

Oh, I’m not rich at all. Not anymore

[empty jasper]

Lmao

[tawny osprey]

what way I should go? norwest, noreast or southeast?

[ruby saddle]

wherea re you tauro

[lofty plank]

Hummmm im trying to install the common sense reborn, server bricks.

[ruby saddle]

oh the school

kinda middle of nowhere

[bleak dust]

i got 2 coworkers who do play about 1-2 times a week if Im lucky

[ruby saddle]

did you visit the cabin to the southwest

[median sky]

im gonna have to steal this from you now, the cycle continues

[ebon musk]

zomboid keeps going unresponsive to an out of memory error. this didn't happen before, any idea why? i can post crashlogs but obv it'd be kind of a text dump

[tawny osprey]

to the greenhouse then

[ruby saddle]

does the greenhouse grow things

[simple cipher]

Normal zomboid rules dictate indoor growing is not allowed

[buoyant belfry]

Delete all your mods. Reboot game and see if it works in vanilla

[tawny osprey]

yeah! I want to explore it to evaluate it if is worth it as base more for MP than SP

[simple cipher]

but that can be tweaked in sandbox settings

[bleak dust]

you either really like project zomboid, or you think its really freakin stupid

[ruby saddle]

dear devs give us better light propagation from sunlight

[ebon musk]

i think there is an exception for existing greenhouses

[ruby saddle]

sunlight be more powerfull then light bulbs

it got LUX

[simple cipher]

Yeah, I have found crops growing in existing greenhouses, but I've been told its only for the plants that were generated at the start of the world

[bleak dust]

but hey subnautica 2 comes out in 2 days

ill get 4 copies

watch how many people play it

[ruby saddle]

isnt that a different dev

[simple cipher]

Any crops you yourself plant in there will still die apparently

[ruby saddle]

there was a subnauticle debacle

[buoyant belfry]

I bought it. Streaming it the HOUR it drops

[ruby saddle]

I maaaay need a new videocard this week now Dave

lol

[bleak dust]

im going to wait for the first reviews before buying it, but it will probablly be the day of

[simple cipher]

I just hope the leviathans in this game are equally terrifying

[bleak dust]

just waiting to see if theres like a game breaking bug or something

[buoyant belfry]

Og devs are back. They won in court. The scammer is paying the $250 million he owes and he lost his job.

All is well

[tawny osprey]

something better: a roofing pond

[simple cipher]

won't dethrone the reaper, but I want something real scary

[simple cipher]

Wait the CEO lost his job?

[hollow condor]

how do I search corpses backpacks

[buoyant belfry]

OG levis are back. And a gargantuan levi…..

Short answer is yes. It’s subnautica 1 but BIGGER.

Stuff at 300 meters down is scary. 2,000+ meters down crazy scary