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#I need a str blues team than can be used in hard content
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Hard content i mean like vs jiren or the first stage of that event vs omega, wothout the new anniversary units i get to omega and die ive also tried gt heroes but i did constantly from pan or ssj3 gt goku. I also have gomah team if you wanted to see that. My gohan/gamma team also gets cooked for some reason
dense herald
I mean yea, this team does not do well in current challenge events, no matter what
V&T + 
SSBs (lead)
Gogeta4 + 
SSJ4s
Floaters:
SSBs (friend) - Gogeta4 - FutureHybrids
depending on the event you might want to change the first rotation to:
SSBs (lead) + 
SSGs
Gogeta4 + SSJ4s
Floaters:
SSBs (friend) - Gogeta4 - FutureHybrids
The big issue are both 7Y EZAs as they drop off a lot beyond their first appearance.
Aswell as general damage wise this team is lacking compared to more recent teams.
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Would a gomah team or gohan/gamma be better to show you then? My main issue with gohan/gamma is they just explode after turn 5
dense herald
I mean I dont know your box and Gomah doesnt really have a team.
If you just want a strong team id recommend posting your box without category filters.
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I mean ok i just figured that be to many pictures to shift though ill take some ss
Ok that SHOULD be all of it
dense herald
Do you want me to keep the coin options you mentioned in mind/include them in potential teams?
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Sure, unless you think i should save them i have about 900 red rn for reference
dense herald
I mean the absolute best would be to have 1000 coins by the time the Anni units return, but I would say that TEQ Daima4 would likely help you build teams.
Ill try without it tho
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I have always pulled at least 1 new unit since str gogeta so its weird for me to not be able to beat any new content
I mean if hes really that good im down to get him i have an extra like 260 in the pity so i coukd just put it in there
I just thought he was the best friend to daimaku nothing more till now and he woukd age out cause thats what people said and i dont own him obviously lol
But if daimaku will allow me to beat content then id consider it worth it
dense herald
With him an obvious team would be:
Daima4 (friend) + Mini4 (lead)
SSBs + MBS Duo
Floaters:
Gohan - Goku - GT Duo
Without him you can do:
Daima4 (friend) + Gogeta4
SSBs + MBS Duo
Floaters:
Vegito (lead) - GT Duo - Gogeta4 or SSJ3 Goku
SSJ4s are an alternative friend that leads the 8Y EZAs better
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Hmm see i see but yeah im not racing to run teq vegito team he definitely sells me a good amount
Why wouldnt gomah go on the first team you suggested? Isnt he better than most of the characters there?
dense herald
He would make the team significantly worse
He doesnt link with anyone there and forces himself to be in slot 1 which ruins the rotation hes on
obtuse token
You mean slot 2 right? And yeah that does make sense
dense herald
You mean slot 2 right? And yeah that does make sense
No, slot 1
He doesnt deal any damage (or well 33% of his normal damage) unless he is attacked before he is attacked
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Ohhb i thought youbwere talking about his slot 2 buff
dense herald
Ohhb i thought youbwere talking about his slot 2 buff
Thats not really a slot 2 buff, thats a buff he gets when he APPEARS in slot 2, which happens after you put him in slot 1 in the turn beforehand.
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Oh ive been using him wrong this whole time lol, well ig i can use hus giant form and force him slot 2, haha
What about gohan/gamma? Is the team just not strong enough to handle modern content?
Or do i just really need gamma 2 and piccolo to make it work
dense herald
What about gohan/gamma? Is the team just not strong enough to handle modern cont...
I mean you pointed out the issue with them yourself, they are very strong, but they kinda fall off after turn 5
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And ive also tried
int 4geta friend - phy ssj4s
Str seza ssj4ku - str gt duo
agl g4 lead, agl ssj4 goku, teq pan but with no success vs omega
dense herald
And ive also tried
int 4geta friend - phy ssj4s
Str seza ssj4ku - str gt duo
a...
AGL SSJ4 Goku is a practically useless unit
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I mean you pointed out the issue with them yourself, they are very strong, but t...
But is that not the same with mini 4ku or is it not as hard of a fall off
dense herald
But besides that its a decent team, I wouldnt float the Gogeta4 tho
dense herald
What about gohan/gamma? Is the team just not strong enough to handle modern cont...
You can do:
Gohan/Gamma (lead) + Gohan
Gohan/Gamma (friend) + Gamma
Floaters:
Gamma - Piccolo - FutureHybrids
I guess
dense herald
But is that not the same with mini 4ku or is it not as hard of a fall off
He only loses guard after 5 turns, which is a loss, but its not a huge deal in most cases
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AGL SSJ4 Goku is a practically useless unit
Wow he fell off that hard? damn is there anyone else i can put there though?
dense herald
Wow he fell off that hard? damn is there anyone else i can put there though?
His EZA is 4 years old by now
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Nonono
dense herald
And you can use AGL LR SSJ3 Goku, PHY EZA Pan or AGL SEZA SSJ4 Vegeta instead
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10th anni ssj4ku
dense herald
So AGL LR SSJ3 Goku
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Ssj3ku that transforms into ssj4
dense herald
Yea he works
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Oh ok. The only issue ive been having with that team is pan and him turn into dodge or die with omega
Which has been nuking my runs
dense herald
With items he shouldnt have issues living Omega
But yes Pan is very much dodge or die
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Ok well ig last question because its very late where i am
Do you think coining mini 4ku would be the option you would choose or should i try and tough it out?
Simce the anni units prolly wont return till gdc anyway
dense herald
In your position id probably just coin him.
He helps you right now and whenever the anniversary units come back he would also be pretty valuable (assuming we dont get insane powercreep during GDC)
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Got you thank you for all the help
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Oh i did have another question on the gt team why would you suggest agl 4 gogeta on rotation instead of gt 8y?
dense herald
Better links and thus generally higher value per turn with him.
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Based on my box i now have 439 red coins and 231 carnival and 250 pity coins im trying to debate on if i should just put it into the carnival so i can get ui or put 61 into red to get 500 or what i should do