just started need help to make team

[mental oracle]

this is the story event u mean right

[mossy loom]

Yep

[mental oracle]

btw what i do with those just ignore them ?

[mossy loom]

Yea just ignore them, they autoconvert when the banner goes away and you already got him anyway

[twin vault]

Unless you have 550 more stones to use on that banner convert them

[mossy loom]

They autoconvert anyway.

[twin vault]

True

[mental oracle]

well i can farm that but anni is coming so i think i should save right ?

[mossy loom]

Yes you should, you already have that unit.

[mental oracle]

ye my buddy was making me roll so i can get picollo or kid goku

but i got shafted on my last rotation with roshi

[mossy loom]

Rolling for Piccolo is very stupid as you can get that unit on all future banners and Kid Goku doesnt really fit in a lot of teams either.

[mental oracle]

300 wasted stones hope it doesnt hurt me in future that much : )

[mossy loom]

Yes thats fine

[mental oracle]

is the shop selling them and story goign away today ????

[mossy loom]

Yes

[mental oracle]

💀

how long would it take to get everything

before it goes away

[mossy loom]

Depends on your luck, like an hour or so?

[mental oracle]

ah not bad then

[mental oracle]

ye 12k currency isnt one hour 😭

got goku and vegeta tho farming for panzar golorio now

[mossy loom]

If you run units in the Bonus Category (which the Daima units all are iirc) it increases the drops you get.

[mental oracle]

I have 110 percent drop rate rn

let me see if picking daima 4 friend increases it

nvm it does

[mental oracle]

yo does eza go away

[mossy loom]

Yes

[mental oracle]

😔

[mental oracle]

ye only goku left eza vegeta done

[mental oracle]

anything im missing

[mossy loom]

Nah that looks good

[mental oracle]

anything else i should do before going to sleep rn like anything in this event because its going away in 10 hours

[mossy loom]

Nah, nothing important

[mental oracle]

kk bet thx a lot gang

[mossy loom]

ig one thing

but its super quick

let me check the name

[mental oracle]

bet

[mossy loom]

In the Bonus tab the event with Glorio on it

It gives you skill orbs

and you can only do one run per day

[mental oracle]

can u send me a screenshot

[mental oracle]

the late night warmup

?

[mossy loom]

yes

[mental oracle]

bet will do it rn

thx a lot

then will go sleep

[mental oracle]

btw what should i be focusing in doing rn with my team plus is there like an autobattle feature for stages that i still didnt clear like boss rush

[mossy loom]

#1332884938693017621

and no

[mental oracle]

bruh so i just have to thug it out of infinite boss stages lol

[mossy loom]

Yes, you do indeed have to play the game

[mental oracle]

ye i dont mind playing but a lot of these bosses have like 6 phases 😭

i kill bro and he is like nuh uh and spawns another boss fight

[mossy loom]

Wait until you figure out there is an event with 50 phases

[mental oracle]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTT

[mental oracle]

so all i do is just farm dragon stones ?

so int diamageta isnt floater right ?

daiimku and panzy and golorio are tho right ?

[mossy loom]

Pretty much

[mossy loom]

Yes

[mental oracle]

btw in futurewhat characters should i focus on getting for my team

nvm i will just ask u in dokkan help when bannerscome

[mossy loom]

Atm its basically save until Anni and then whatever good units there are.
This game is about having a lot of different teams, you dont focus on one team only

[mental oracle]

why tho dont u just use one team at a time

[mossy loom]

Yes, but the majority of the "content" in this game is doing the missions for challenge events.
These missions want you to beat the event with certain categories, so you need to have a wide variety of options basically

[mental oracle]

bet one last thing how many stones should i have when anni is here

[mossy loom]

As many as possible

[mental oracle]

like a good amount would like how much ? 1k ?

[mossy loom]

2,5k is pity for one unit
We usually get 4 new units

[mental oracle]

wdym

i need like 10k ?

[mossy loom]

You dont NEED that

[mental oracle]

i just wanted a goal point to aim at lol

[mossy loom]

but that would guarantee all new units, ofc you can just get them from normal summoning

idk aim for like 3k I guess

[mental oracle]

so 3k would be good ?

[mossy loom]

as much as possible is good

[mental oracle]

ik dawg just giving my self a lowest goal point lol

[mossy loom]

The lowest you should have ideally is 2,5k so you can pity atleast one unit

[mental oracle]

bet so 3k or above then

[mental oracle]

any of those important ?

[mossy loom]

Not for you, the event leaves in like 1 or 2h and you need all of them to unlock the challenge event

[mental oracle]

ahh so not important rn

[twin vault]

All it gives is an animated wallpaper

After you beat the event after getting all 42

[mental oracle]

should i use those on anything

[mossy loom]

#1443875794437935205

[mental oracle]

ik for my team tho who is the best to choose

[mental oracle]

like who exactly u would reccomend me to take

and how would they fit in my team

[mossy loom]

The SSJ4s would fit your team, but I doubt you can do their SEZA yet.

[mental oracle]

why cant i do it ?

i can attempt it rn

[mossy loom]

Because you dont have a team to do it

[mental oracle]

which one is it i can try

[mossy loom]

https://glben.dokkaninfo.com/events/zbattle/54

[mental oracle]

this one ?

[mossy loom]

Thats a Dokkan Event

not an EZA

[mental oracle]

yeah cant find it

[mental oracle]

what do i need just to beat them

?

[mossy loom]

An Artificial Life Forms team

[mental oracle]

no f2p one ?

[mossy loom]

EZAs have specific category weaknesses.
You can bruteforce some of them, but especially the SEZAs are very hard.

[mossy loom]

Yes thats level 1

[mental oracle]

what lvl i need

[mossy loom]

Level Super

Which comes are level 30

[mental oracle]

if i can do it

i can just ignore

the lifeform team ?

[mossy loom]

Sure

[mental oracle]

bet will attempt doing 30 rn

will ping ya if i can do it and ask u what i should do after

espeically that ss4 goku and ss4 gogeta are my fav characters of all time lol goku more tbh

[mental oracle]

daimaku is so bad omg lol

takesa lot of dmg

and does no dmg

and golorio does the most dmg other than daim4

[mossy loom]

Yes PHY EZA Daimaku is the worst of the F2P bunch

[mental oracle]

and dodges every single attack

[mental oracle]

ye

[mental oracle]

i need only to clear to 30 right ?

[mossy loom]

You need to do 30 and then do the super one

[mental oracle]

ah shi kk

how much harder

is the super one

from 30

almost there anyway

2 more

stages

[mossy loom]

Its hard to give like a scale, but: A lot

[mental oracle]

holy lol

will need to manual it then not use autobattle

[mental oracle]

took 3 turns

[mossy loom]

Damn I honestly didnt expect that

Yea just do that 9 more times

and you can SEZA them

[mental oracle]

so uh

do i grab the dude

and is he good

[mossy loom]

Yes both SSJ4s are good

[mental oracle]

like in top 5 ?

premium ?

[mossy loom]

The team would be:
Daima4 + Daimageta
Friend Daima4 + SSJ4 Goku
Floaters:
Glorio - Panzy - SSJ4 Vegeta

[mossy loom]

Ranking units is pointless

[mental oracle]

vegeta is a flaoter ?

[mental oracle]

wdym frein diam4 and ssj4 goku

cant i just use one friend

[mental oracle]

is there anywhere this team would suck ?

or cant clear

[mossy loom]

Yes

[mossy loom]

Didnt we go over this exact thing yesterday

[mental oracle]

ik dawg just like are they among the best units

[mental oracle]

friendye

[mossy loom]

They are very strong

[mental oracle]

bet

[mental oracle]

daima4 kind of strong ?

[mossy loom]

It can struggle in some new challenge events, yes

[mossy loom]

No

[mental oracle]

dang in the selection is there anything daima 4 lvl of strong

[mossy loom]

No

[mental oracle]

lol kk

[mossy loom]

The select stones are old units basically

[mental oracle]

are they these 2

[mossy loom]

The ones that have a SEZA are updated again, but still Daima4 literally came out 2 weeks ago

[mossy loom]

Yes

[mental oracle]

i would have 1 more stone left

should i use it on anyone that can join the team ?

[mossy loom]

Save that one for now

And no, no other good unit from there is usable for the team

They might announce another SEZA while the stone is tradable, so just keep that last one for potential announcements

[mental oracle]

kk bet

is it at least a signifcant upgrade from the f2p team

like was there content that is not doable by the f2p one that this one can do

[mossy loom]

Yes

They are much stronger

than the F2P units

[mental oracle]

bet

[mental oracle]

can u explain teh daima4 + ssj4 goku part cause i dont get dont u just can use one friend

[mossy loom]

You have the memory of a goldfish

[mental oracle]

kinda ye lol

[mossy loom]

#1443643016807186604 message

[mental oracle]

i did read it

[mental oracle]

i choose teq 4 ye ik

wdym by +ssj4 goku tho

[mossy loom]

That the friend unit is in a rotation with the STR SEZA SSJ4 Goku

[mental oracle]

but isnt it random tho

like cant both diama 4 be in a rotation

[mossy loom]

Yes, thats why you build your rotations

#1325548172864524338

[mental oracle]

huh

[mental oracle]

ahhh so i keep using the right floaters and i end up with the right rotations

[mossy loom]

Yes

[mental oracle]

kk bet thx

i tried using uneza goku and got one shotted lol imma just wait until i awaken both XD

[mossy loom]

Without their SEZA they are unusable, yea

[mental oracle]

ye lol

[mental oracle]

lowkey golorio panzy daigeta was better than non seza ones lol

[mossy loom]

Yes ofc

[mental oracle]

is seza like a way to bring back old units into meta ?

[mossy loom]

EZA refreshes old units
SEZA refreshes old EZAd units

[mental oracle]

it takes freaking 5 turns to beat this

DUDE IF MY GOKU EATS AN ULT TWICE I LOSE

thank god he is barely on field

[mental oracle]

if they get tgh like that do i use one of them as floater

so he doesnt come back in the same rotation

as him

[mossy loom]

Yes here you do
Daima4 - Glorio - Daima4

[mental oracle]

so always avoid using non floaters as floaters unless the slot 1 units are both tgh

kk i get it

anyway tho

im clearing this easy af

not having any kind of troublle

i only did when i had daimaku in slot 1 by mistake this one time

[mossy loom]

I guess I just underestimated the strength of the new units

When the SSJ4 SEZAs released like 2 months ago A LOT of people were struggling with it

[mental oracle]

diama 4 is a new unit ?

[mossy loom]

Yes, he came out two weeks ago

[mental oracle]

lmao

nice

yeah he counters all the ults of this stage

and does crazy dmg

with his ability thingy that u swipe up for

basically 1-2 shots the bosses

[mental oracle]

his ult

dmg

to vegeta

[mental oracle]

done

[mental oracle]

Is there anything in the events I should be doing I saw people doing the seriously serious stage to get tickets to roll on banner for free

[mossy loom]

That would be a good idea to do right now yea, besides that farming stones

[mental oracle]

Wait fr ? What units in there I need for my team

[mossy loom]

None

But free units are free units

[mental oracle]

😭

[mental oracle]

@mossy loom

[mossy loom]

Why the fuck did you put a unit that CANT slot 1 into slot 1

No wonder you die

[mental oracle]

u told me to make vegita tank

i dont use him slot 1

i used daima 4

slot 1

mb

[timid hedge]

Glorio, Panzy and AGL SSJ3 Vegeta on floaters, STR SSJ4 Goku and PHY SSJ3 Vegeta as the slot 1s, both Daima Gokus as the slot 2 units

That's the rotation you want to use

[mossy loom]

I already gave them the rotations

[mental oracle]

i was using this

[timid hedge]

Oh ok

[mental oracle]

i only tried the seza vegeta

to see if he tanks

[timid hedge]

Don't try again lol

[mental oracle]

kk lol

so daima 4 not slot 1 ?

[timid hedge]

If it comes to push, put TEQ SSJ4 on slot 1

[mossy loom]

Yea what you did makes 0 sense.

[mossy loom]

No

[mental oracle]

i was always using him slot 1 lol

[mossy loom]

SSJ3 Daimageta and SEZA Goku slot 1

[mental oracle]

i thought he was the best at tanking and such

[mossy loom]

I highly suggest reading your units' kits

[mental oracle]

so even outside this stage always use ss3 vegita and ss4 goku seza as slot 1

[timid hedge]

Yes

[mental oracle]

how can i know if smth is slot1 or slot 2

i dont know how to differentiate

[timid hedge]

If you read their passive, they both have a line that says "as the 1st attacker in the turn" or "as the 1st or 2nd attacker in the turn"

Meaning they only get that part when in slot 1 or 2

[mental oracle]

ah yeah never read passives will try to read them more from now on mb

[mossy loom]

Or if a lot of their boost is "on attack" they are very very rarely slot 1

[timid hedge]

Always do that before hopping on a stage with a unit, will save you a lot of trouble

[mental oracle]

what does on attack mean

[timid hedge]

When it's their turn to attack

[timid hedge]

Nothing before it will trigger it

[mossy loom]

This means the unit only gets these stats when attacking

So if a unit gets 200% DEF on attack

They dont do well in slot 1

[mental oracle]

bet

[mossy loom]

(generally speaking, im sure there are some obscure outliers)

[mental oracle]

will read it next time

[timid hedge]

good

[mental oracle]

btw i dont think this boss has a fixed ult

like he ulted at different times than listed in teh thing you sent

[mossy loom]

The first phase it isnt fixed

After you fill his bar its fixed for the turn

[mental oracle]

he has 2 phases ?

ahhhhh

[mossy loom]

then it not fixed anymore

[mental oracle]

havent reached second phase yet kk

[mossy loom]

You reach the second phase very quickly and basically none of your units can die in phase 1

Its not killing him that triggers it

Its filling up the bar below his health

Which is done by attacking him

[mental oracle]

yeah phy vegeta only took 83 dmg lol

goku took 19k and died hmmm

let me try again

not from ult tho

he died just from like hand to hand combat thingy

[mossy loom]

Goku is a bit of an odd case, his first appearance aint very tanky

After that hes tanky

[mental oracle]

what lol

thats odd

[mossy loom]

What you can do in this case specifically is put Daima4 in slot 1 on their first appearance (STR in slot 2)

[mental oracle]

yeah he casually eating a lot of dmg

[mossy loom]

and then put STR in slot 1 on the next appearance

[mental oracle]

kk bet

[mossy loom]

this is the case why he starts not very tanky and gets tanky

[mental oracle]

oh no golorio getting ulted

he dodged

[mental oracle]

so phase 2 just started he healed he fought with phy vegeta for a bit then came panzy turn he fought with panzy and ulted

[mossy loom]

Yea Panzy is dodge or die

Thats just how it is

She has 80% dodge and you were unlucky

[mental oracle]

ye 😔

[mental oracle]

phy vegeta got that much dmg he was one bar away from dying lol

what am i doing wrong

[mossy loom]

Getting unlucky mostly

The enemy scales harder the further you push him

He starts with a 1,75m SA in phase 1 and has a 7m SA in phase 4

[mental oracle]

so im just depending on luck rn

[mossy loom]

Its a hard stage and you dont have an overwhelmingly strong team
Dont get me wrong the team is strong, but it doesnt steamroll everything

[mental oracle]

😔

I FINISHED IT 😭

THAT WAS CLOSE AF

is the stage after it harder

[mossy loom]

Not really, its just different
I personally thought stage 8 was easier than 7

[mental oracle]

k this dude attacks all and one shots lol

[mossy loom]

Yea the AoE attack will be a bit rough for the AGL SEZA SSJ4 Vegeta, you could replace him with INT EZA Daimageta for this stage specifically

[mental oracle]

i dont have him tho ?

ohhhh

nvm

i do

i mixed him with smth else

he heals too ?

[mossy loom]

Yep

[mental oracle]

diama 4 gets one shot by the ult

just straight up dies

[mossy loom]

Are you putting him in slot 1?

[mental oracle]

only when there is 2 of him and the other option is golorio

[mossy loom]

Yea then you are fucked generally

But post SA (so slot 2/3) he shouldnt die to the SA

[mental oracle]

bet

[mossy loom]

Since the enemy is PHY you also want the SEZA Goku in slot 1 even on the first turn

[mental oracle]

bet

[mental oracle]

wasnt first turn but thats how much he ate

seza goku

[mossy loom]

Oh right that fucker crits

[mental oracle]

😔

[mossy loom]

Gotta bank on that SA counter

[mental oracle]

he hasnt missed a crit once

[mossy loom]

Yea the SAs are guaranteed crits

Its basically a 2,4m SA that ignores some unknown amount of DEF

[mental oracle]

how do i beat that lol

[mossy loom]

Goku has a 50% chance to counter SAs, so thats what you are hoping for basically

[mental oracle]

ah shi

trying again

[mental oracle]

it aint happening lol

any more consitent comp i can use ?

[mossy loom]

Not in your box, no

[mental oracle]

does this guy

help in any way

[mossy loom]

Nope

[mental oracle]

anyone f2p i can get that can help

[mossy loom]

He has like 4 categories and you have teams for none of them

[mossy loom]

You could try the full dodge based slot 1s

[mental oracle]

wdym

golorio panzy ?

[mossy loom]

Panzy + Daima4 (lead)
Daimageta + SSJ4 Goku
Floaters:
Glorio - SSJ4 Vegeta

I dont know if the Vegeta survives the AoEs tho

[mental oracle]

he does

i tried

[mental oracle]

why not phydiamageta

he hasnt

died once

he is tanking

taking only 104 dmg

[mossy loom]

You werent showing who took damage

[mental oracle]

it was always

goku

noone else

seza

diama 4 and seza get one shot both of them

[mossy loom]

Then Replace the INT SEZA Daimageta with PHY Daimageta in the last iteration I gave you

[mental oracle]

bet

yeah that worked way better

when goku cant tank panzar dodge way more reliable

time to roll

on banner

[mossy loom]

Thats why its also important to have many different teams compared to just focussing on one, some units are better for stuff than other units.

[mental oracle]

ye i get it now

[mental oracle]

@mossy loom

[mossy loom]

If your box didnt update since the time you posted at the very top then you have no AoE units.
Then you just use your normal team

[mental oracle]

@mossy loom