What unit do I sub out for the new frieza

[spice gyro]

I’m guess the int vegeta?

But idk

[vivid spire]

STR UI

[mortal dagger]

STR Ui imo

[vivid spire]

or Evoken

[languid rain]

this goku

[pallid parcel]

Why are you not using STR SSBE as ur leader and just tossing beast lol

[spice gyro]

Idk I was told to put beast

[languid rain]

i mean u probably rather have that beast

beast is really good

[vivid spire]

He might not have extra U7 units

[pallid parcel]

He'd have a full U7 team

[languid rain]

str ui is mid as hell tho

[pallid parcel]

If he -beast, STR SSBE as lead and + tag gofrieza

[vivid spire]

Oh yeah

[spice gyro]

I have a few extra

[languid rain]

i hate dodge or die unit

[vivid spire]

do you have the INT Android 17 and PHY 17 and Frieza

[spice gyro]

I gave the phy 17 and frieza

Have*

[vivid spire]

Use them instead of STR UI or Evoken

[languid rain]

replace that evoken

he not surviving harder events

[spice gyro]

But what abt the new frieza

[vivid spire]

Oh yeah uh

[languid rain]

str ui goku

[spice gyro]

Ok

Ty

[vivid spire]

Yes replace STR UI with GoFrieza and Evoken with 17 Frieza

[languid rain]

wait

can you even put 17 frieza on that team

you cant 😭

[spice gyro]

So something like this?

(Pretend there lrs)

Their

[languid rain]

17 frieza isnt not on beast leader skill

[spice gyro]

Who tf do I put as leader then 😭

[vivid spire]

Ok maybe uh

Put STR SSBE as leader

and put STR UI back

[spice gyro]

Ok

[vivid spire]

Rather run STR UI than Fraud Evoken

[languid rain]

ngl

i rather use evoken

i hate dodge or die

💔

[vivid spire]

Evoken is not surviving anything

they die to normals if no rainbows

[languid rain]

i never get that problem

[languid rain]

cus i run them with rainbow orb changers

i dont use him now

i ofc have better units

[spice gyro]

Also I have like the ssbkioken str goku

[vivid spire]

he's uhh

not good anymore

[spice gyro]

Ok

[languid rain]

just be careful around that str goku

[vivid spire]

stick to that team

[languid rain]

dodge or die

[languid rain]

hes ass

😔

[spice gyro]

What did yall say else

[vivid spire]

Considering that he has MUI

[spice gyro]

The int 17?

[vivid spire]

I think he knows

[languid rain]

hell yea

int 17 is really good

[vivid spire]

https://dbz-dokkanbattle.fandom.com/wiki/Universe_7's_All-Out_Offensive_Android_17_(Team_Universe_7)

[languid rain]

i have him on my uni 7 team rn

[spice gyro]

I don’t think I have him

Yeah no

Rip

[vivid spire]

Yeah

Sadly I have to use Evoken because I don't have 17 and Frieza

[spice gyro]

Why beast?

[languid rain]

im too lazy to get the new vegeta

[spice gyro]

Is he rlly that busted

Oh

Type

[languid rain]

still really really good

he tanks everything

[spice gyro]

Yall wanna see my trash movie team

[vivid spire]

I currently run STR SSBE, AGL MUI, TEQ UI, INT SSBE, INT 17 and PHY Evoken because i don't have Jiren or 17za

[spice gyro]

Is the top good?

[languid rain]

all my teams are really really stacked rn

[spice gyro]

Again pretend lrs

[vivid spire]

Actually that movie bosses team can cook if you awaken the units

[spice gyro]

Bio Broly hard to get

[languid rain]

its really good

[spice gyro]

Like the medals

Any tips for bio brolys

[languid rain]

uhhhhhhh

[vivid spire]

uh

nothing much really

[languid rain]

just bring in a good super team honestly

[vivid spire]

just use boosted units and keep autoing

[languid rain]

🤑

now i just waiting for the ssj4 and god eza

[vivid spire]

It might not be good to run STR SSJ Goathan currently

CUrrent bosses take HUGE advantage of units that aren't good turn 1

[languid rain]

i mean i just put him at the back so he stacks up

i have like 3 slot 1 units

[vivid spire]

I think that's only 2

Nameku and Beast

[languid rain]

i also have this god of a team

[languid rain]

int seza gohan can slightly dodge and tank

he change orbs and stuff

[spice gyro]

I don’t rlly got any good units

For like

The event section

Like from quests and things

@vivid spire anyone else u recommend instead of the int 17 to replace the str goku

[languid rain]

evoken 🗣️

[vivid spire]

Evoken ig but they're kinda glassy

[languid rain]

u got t his guy?

[vivid spire]

If he did then he's def using him

[languid rain]

maybe hes

idk

yes

[magic kettle]

If he had that guy he’d probably not even have to use STR Sign ui

[vivid spire]

^

[languid rain]

how good is this guy

[magic kettle]

Good on release

Idk about now

[vivid spire]

He was good when he came out

[languid rain]

the power creep is crazy

[vivid spire]

I don't have him so

[magic kettle]

It really is

[vivid spire]

Idk how he is now

[magic kettle]

Me neither

[vivid spire]

Not really

the fact that most of USS units are still usable

except for Evoken

is kinda nuts

[languid rain]

but ur saying str ui goku is alr

😭

[magic kettle]

Not even alright he’s honestly buns

[vivid spire]

Nah

[magic kettle]

I wouldn’t even wanna bring him into like

Old red zones

[vivid spire]

just saying at least you have 70% chance of survival

[magic kettle]

He’s unreliable

[languid rain]

i rather have evoken on

[magic kettle]

Yes evoken is still good

Use them

[languid rain]

that is NOT 70%

hes not dodging

everytime

[vivid spire]

Evoken is also kinda unreliable

[magic kettle]

It really doesn’t feel like 70% because he’s so ass

[magic kettle]

Yeah but atleast he can take normals

[vivid spire]

He doesn't have INT 17 so no rainbow orb changrs

[magic kettle]

Ui sign?? Forget about it

[vivid spire]

and if he's fighting AOEs then uh

[magic kettle]

Yeah fair

[vivid spire]

Evoken instantly dies when there's an AOE

[languid rain]

if he fighting aoes that new frieza

is dead

[vivid spire]

Oh yeah

GoFrieza is weak to AOEs isn't he?

[languid rain]

nah gofrieza frieza is just not that good at tanking

[magic kettle]

Gofrieza is weak to everything

[languid rain]

goku is really good at it tho

[magic kettle]

Can’t swap until the good part about the unit until turn 4

In order to get good dmg reduction

[languid rain]

yes

[magic kettle]

Must be 77% hp or less

And even then isn’t worth it

[vivid spire]

Ok he does sound worse than SSBE now

[magic kettle]

Just a really poor unit design

If he could instantly swap to Goku he’d be so so so much better

Oh you’re low? Ok then swap to frieza

[languid rain]

its not

[magic kettle]

Maybe make it so swapping heals a little per turn

[languid rain]

but people just makes it sound really bad

it still good

[magic kettle]

They’d be much much better

He is worse than SSBE

Imo

At least SSBE can live in slot 2

No matter what frieza gets screwed

[vivid spire]

I don't think SSBE is that bad but that's because he always supers at least twice for me

[magic kettle]

That 30% though is a yikes

[vivid spire]

so at worst, he should have 7 by turn 4

[languid rain]

2 super and 4 normals

[magic kettle]

If it were something like 70 or 80% SSBE would a be a great unit

[vivid spire]

At least

[magic kettle]

But that 30 really hinders him

[languid rain]

it can still some what tank after a super

[vivid spire]

last time I used him he was going balls

all 6 attacks were supers

[magic kettle]

300k per super is rough man I dunno

Especially with all the dmg reduction

The unit isn’t worth the trouble

[vivid spire]

I mean I don't use USS that often anymore since I use TEQ Vegito's team more

I only use it if I want fun

[magic kettle]

And that’s fair

[languid rain]

i still love his active

such good ost

[magic kettle]

It is the card is so fucking awesome

It’s a shame they messed up the kit

[languid rain]

💔

[magic kettle]

Praying they don’t do this royal fuckup with the upcoming 7 year ezas

[languid rain]

no wonder no one is clapping after it reveal

[languid rain]

PLEASE

I NEED THEM TO BE GOOD

[magic kettle]

I miss my super saiyan 4 goats

[vivid spire]

which side?

[languid rain]

I WANT TO USE THEM

SO BADLY

[magic kettle]

💔

[languid rain]

frieza

[vivid spire]

Oh

[languid rain]

cool ost and vibe

[magic kettle]

Miracle of uni 7 active is beautifully animated

Great active

[vivid spire]

Yeah frieza side's active sounds like a Legends OST

Goku side sounds like a horror game OST

[magic kettle]

Great KO screen too

[languid rain]

i want more turles units

hes so cool

❤️

[magic kettle]

It’s been like 2 years since the last right

With that PHY one

Or has it been one year

[vivid spire]

2

[languid rain]

theres only been 2 good turles

[vivid spire]

he was from 2023

[languid rain]

i think

[magic kettle]

Yeah ok

[languid rain]

the lr one cus it got eza

[vivid spire]

is it the AGL and STR?

[languid rain]

and the ur one

[vivid spire]

I don't recall PHY being good

[magic kettle]

The only good turles is STR eza

[vivid spire]

but is AGL good at release?

[magic kettle]

Good on release

Died later

[languid rain]

check the eza

free crits

[magic kettle]

Wait is PHY turles getting an eza?

[vivid spire]

iirc he was either mid or was good but died a month later

Last year DFEs were good enough

even now

well execpt for PHY Rose

[languid rain]

oh wait

[magic kettle]

The ladder

[languid rain]

i emean str

[magic kettle]

You meant STR

yeah

STR team turles

[vivid spire]

STR Turles is a support

[magic kettle]

Still awesome unit

[vivid spire]

and does good damage

[magic kettle]

Good dmg and support

Crits and additional supers

Good unit

[languid rain]

yes yes

[magic kettle]

I still use him on INT broly teams

And movie bosses

[vivid spire]

Yeah

[languid rain]

do you think the saiyan saga eza would be good

[magic kettle]

Dude if I could just get GT Goku this would probably be my most successful anniversary

[magic kettle]

I really really hope so

[languid rain]

it would probably be the kaioken lr and ape lr

i got them prepared already

[magic kettle]

I loved the saiyan saga units

I was really sad that vegeta was

Bad

I love saiyan saga vegeta

[languid rain]

hope this eza makes him good

[magic kettle]

Same

[languid rain]

but please

DONT FUMLBE

THE GOD AND SSJ4 DUO

i NEED to use them

their animations are so good

+one of the best ost

str ur kid buu is still my favourite

[magic kettle]

Ss4 gogeta still has some of the best animations in game

[vivid spire]

I doubt the 7th years are getting fumbled

they never fumbled anni units' EZAs

[languid rain]

god now i think it would be like the second goku black

[magic kettle]

Same, but they also somehow fumbled miracle of uni 7 and a duo SSBE vegeta and MUI goku

[vivid spire]

sure some of them don't age well (3rd and 5th years)

[languid rain]

😭

[magic kettle]

There’s always time💔

[vivid spire]

but they were arguably some of the best units when they launched

[magic kettle]

Oh for sure

[vivid spire]

Nah, leave that one for 8th years or smth

[magic kettle]

Noo dude I love them

I’d love to be able to use them again

[vivid spire]

Right never do that

I mean same

I never got to use Buu Duo on their prime

[magic kettle]

If they wanna fumble anni units

Fumble like

Idk

[vivid spire]

Because I got them in 9th anni bwomp

[magic kettle]

What were the 9th year part 2s?

[vivid spire]

INT Kid GOhan

[magic kettle]

Goku and gohan

Yeah

Fumble the gohan

[vivid spire]

You do not want to fumble those

[magic kettle]

Idc about him

[vivid spire]

9th year part 2s are

Beast Gohan and Gammas

[magic kettle]

Oh shit yeah

[vivid spire]

YOU DO NOT want to fumble those EZAs

[magic kettle]

I meant 8th years

If they fumble the gohan I would not care

[vivid spire]

8th year part 2 is Kaiku and Kid Gohan

[magic kettle]

Free stones

Would be sad if they fumble kaiku

I really like that unit

[vivid spire]

I mean Kaiku has a good skeleton

it would be hard to fumble him

[magic kettle]

Fair

An eza I’ve been waiting on forever is INT ss4 gogeta

Just eza him man

It’s been 5 years

I’m pretty sure

[languid rain]

which gohan?

[magic kettle]

INT lr kid gohan

[vivid spire]

I'm waiting for the GT GWs and AGL Pikkon

[vivid spire]

INT LR Cha-La Head Cha-La Gohan

from 8th anni

[languid rain]

i do NOT care about them

at all

[magic kettle]

Gohan I get but kaiku??

Kaiku was heat

[languid rain]

he was pretty cool

[vivid spire]

he was

His animations made me feel nostalgic

since I grew up with Kai

[magic kettle]

I love his 18 ki

The kaioken into super saiyan transition?

Yeah, my goat

[languid rain]

🗣️

[vivid spire]

Kaiku still has my favorite intro

[magic kettle]

It is a great intro

My only complaint about it is this one part

It’s not long

But like his hair looks watered down

[languid rain]

do NOT fumble these 2 eza

[magic kettle]

Really off looking

[languid rain]

it probably happening next year

[magic kettle]

Other than that it’s a good intro

[magic kettle]

If they keep the trend up

Then probably

[vivid spire]

It will

[languid rain]

i love the ok screen of the ssj duo

its so good

the active skill i mean

[vivid spire]

I don't think they can fumble part 1 EZAs

part 2 EZAs, I'm not so sure

[magic kettle]

Hope not

[vivid spire]

I mean INT Rose and PHY Broly Trio are not that good of EZAs

from what I know

[magic kettle]

I mean I still use INT rose for stuff like ESBR

he can drop bombs dude

[vivid spire]

but they were good at release

[vivid spire]

HE can

[languid rain]

int rose?

really?

[magic kettle]

Yeah LR int rose

Yeah

[vivid spire]

5th anni part 2 LR

[languid rain]

hes not good if he doesnt have orbs

[magic kettle]

He’s not bad, but he just can’t really take supers

[vivid spire]

iirc

[magic kettle]

He has a passive where he gains ki before attacking

If he has enough links

I’m pretty sure

[languid rain]

he really really needs 24+

[vivid spire]

the 6th years part 2 EZAs were busted tho

[magic kettle]

It’s not hard to get from running him on future sagas

[vivid spire]

INT 17 and PHY 17 Frieza are very good to this day

[languid rain]

i used to have a future saga team

[magic kettle]

Oh yeah

I still use PHY 17

[languid rain]

it was pretty fun

[magic kettle]

INT 17 not so much

[languid rain]

🗣️

i love int 17

[vivid spire]

7th years depend on how they do LR Gods, LR Monkeys, Kaioken Goku and Great Ape Vegeta

I doubt they'll be bad

but anything can happen

[languid rain]

it not impossible

[magic kettle]

Honestly what they need to do

To set up absolute perfect teams

Is make them slot 1 units

For their eza

[vivid spire]

I don't think Kaioken Goku can be a slot 1

[magic kettle]

If the 7 years become slot 1 hard hitting units

[vivid spire]

he feels like a slot 2 nuker

[magic kettle]

Part 1s

Should’ve specified

[vivid spire]

O

[languid rain]

when i was summoning for i think the new ssj vegeta

i got the god rainbowed

TWO EXTRA

[magic kettle]

If they make godku and godgeta slot 1s and make them do insane damage

Which they will do regardless

[languid rain]

i literally had to coin ssj vegeta

[magic kettle]

They could be easily some of the best units in game again

[languid rain]

and used like almost 800 stones for the ssj goku

[magic kettle]

Same with ss4s

[languid rain]

my stone bank is dry rn

[magic kettle]

I’m almost at 300 carnival coins

[vivid spire]

I expect the 7 years to set the boundaries for EZAs higher than MUI and SSBE did

[magic kettle]

200 more for GT then I’m done summoning on anniversary💔 💔

[vivid spire]

7th year is like the big powercreep of dokkan

[magic kettle]

Yeah

[vivid spire]

and some of the most iconic units

[magic kettle]

It’s where they introduced 200% leads

[vivid spire]

they won't mess them up

[magic kettle]

After like

4 years of 170%

[languid rain]

and now 220% leads

[magic kettle]

Yup

[languid rain]

adn 250% defense

[magic kettle]

Yeah

Dude I’m loving the new gogeta and vegito

And gohan

Fun units

I really really want GT

[languid rain]

i am so glad i wasnt playing dokkan that much before

[vivid spire]

can be difficult since everyone expects every next LR EZAs to be top 5 after their EZAs

[languid rain]

i have so much stuff i get play for stones

[magic kettle]

I have no more events to grind anymore

I’ve literally done like everything

[languid rain]

i have like the super road and extreme road all empty

so much stones

[magic kettle]

I beat every ESBR, all old missions on events

Some other stuff

No eza’s I can do until the year 7s

[languid rain]

now you gotta 999 all star

[magic kettle]

💔

[vivid spire]

I still haven't done All Star

might gonna have do it since 77 stones are yummers

[magic kettle]

It’s worth it

If I could rn I would

[languid rain]

😭

3 stones

yummers

[magic kettle]

Dude I need these eza’s to drop asap

I need stones

When are they dropping

[languid rain]

dokkan should give us a stable way for stones

[magic kettle]

I imagine probably

[languid rain]

this week end

[magic kettle]

2 days?

Ohh

[languid rain]

i think

its dropping 22 or 21

[magic kettle]

That’s good

Can’t wait to get truths vid in my recommended

[languid rain]

120 free stones 🤑

[magic kettle]

“DETAILS FOR OMEGA NUT BUSTED 7TH YEAR EZAS”

Literally a truth title

[languid rain]

full dodge on beast

🗣️

[magic kettle]

😭 😭 😭

[languid rain]

that guy put full dodge on almost every unit 😭

[magic kettle]

Deadass though full dodge on gogeta with crit

Is a good build

Because of the goku

[languid rain]

which gogeta

[magic kettle]

AGL

tag

New one

[languid rain]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[magic kettle]

If you go full dodge and use defense equips Goku can be reliable in slot 1

[magic kettle]

Are we reading the same kit

[languid rain]

i just put addiontal on my stuff

[magic kettle]

Gogeta really doesn’t need anything else

Really doesn’t

He’s good everywhere else

[languid rain]

cus most unit kinda just

either slot one or gain defense after super

[magic kettle]

I mean yeah I get that

But if you do an additional build on him

Or a full crit build

I mean sure, it’s good

But why not do dodge since he has everything else already

[languid rain]

for MORE additional

[magic kettle]

I mean sure but again he’s all set there

[languid rain]

or i could just put alot of damage orbs on him

[magic kettle]

I won’t judge I’m just saying

Personally I’d do dodge and crit

Or defense equips

[languid rain]

its never enough

10 additional

[magic kettle]

If u want additional that bad use equips💔

[languid rain]

I JUST DROP MY PHONE

AT 1 AM

IM SO COOKED

[magic kettle]

[languid rain]

😭

i was about to say

i still love using the lr soh trunks

[magic kettle]

I was disappointed by him

Underwhelming animations and mid kit

[languid rain]

he still do good damage

[magic kettle]

Eh kinda

I’d rather not use him

[languid rain]

at that time i dont think i even read the kit that much

[magic kettle]

Fair enough

[languid rain]

i should really go to bed

it 1 am

and im sick as hell

[magic kettle]

Get sum sleep man

[languid rain]

i will rn

imma get some z

[spice gyro]

why yall having a whole ass convo in my team building thing 😭

[languid rain]

why not

[spice gyro]

So evoken or mui sign

[languid rain]

uh

evoken

[spice gyro]

Ok

[languid rain]

also let me go to bed

[spice gyro]

No

[languid rain]

😭

[spice gyro]

[spice gyro]

I also got the agl golden frieza is he good?

[vivid spire]

He's aged by now

[spice gyro]

@languid rain @vivid spire lmfao

[vivid spire]

He's good but not for USS

[languid rain]

yooooooo nice

a daima unit is def coming out

so he would be nice

[spice gyro]

Ok

[spice gyro]

I’m just more happy for the int 17 I needed for the uni 7 team

[languid rain]

just put him in a floater spot

[spice gyro]

I don’t rlly got any good Gt units

[spice gyro]

The Gt Goku?

[languid rain]

he mainly a support

int 17

[spice gyro]

Oh

I was gonna put int 17 out for sign ui

[stone crown]

bad team

try to get sr goku base

he is so much better

[languid rain]

yea

he still do like

[spice gyro]

Ok

[languid rain]

10 mil

just eza him

[spice gyro]

That what I was gonna do

[languid rain]

sick

[spice gyro]

What about Gt Goku

Just like

Hold on too him

?

[languid rain]

just awaken him

he really good

cus vegeta eza is coming out

[spice gyro]

Ok

I only got like 2 good Gt characters 😭

[vivid spire]

He’s doing 22M for me

at 55%

[languid rain]