#Weapon Balance i'd like going into Evolution

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plush thicket
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Some of the weapons in game just need minor changes, I'm aware there's not going to be many sweeping changes for balance going into the game before evolutions release, so I tried to make most of this as simple as I can, mostly small number changes that can hopefully sneak in before release.

Shotguns and Flamesaw are excluded from this list in anticipation for their reworks they are getting

Flame Slammer:

  • Give falloff to the grenades fire damage (the further you are from the explosion, the less fire damage you take)

Sniper Rifle:

  • Give a small amount of spread while unscoped

MK Pistol:

  • Allow the ability to hold down LMB to fire
  • Reduce Firerate a small bit
  • 45 damage (Can also stay the same)

Tranq Pistol:

  • Remove Armor
  • Increase healing to 25-30, but over the course of 1.5 or 2 seconds

Assault Rifle:

  • Slightly increase recoil
  • GRENADE: Increase AOE of explosion (With falloff) but reduce damage to 300 or 350
  • Alternatively, keep damage high but have the falloff be what keeps it in check unless it’s a direct hit

SMGs:
Minor Reduction in spread if holding down lmb [Unsure about this one, maybe reducing damage to 25 from 26 per bullet to compensate?]

Bow:

  • Reduce Tyrant bleed treshold for fully charged arrows > 9 currently, keep that for uncharged, reduce to 4 for fully charged

Stungun:

  • Give the charged stun a sound effect like that old high pitched camera sound you know what I mean this has nothing to do with balance it would just be cool

Deagle:

  • Debatable change? - Increase armor pierce to 25% from 20%

Bear Trap:

  • Decrease chance to fail clamping onto a dinosaur

Burst Rifle:

  • Up effective range from 6000 to 6250
  • Up max range damage slightly
  • Unscoped spread reduce by 15%
    [Just revert the nerfs it got it never needed to be nerfed]

Most other weapons are alright or I haven't thought of something for them

mystic lotus
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Honestly ever since the deagle falloff nerf a whiiiile back its felt a tad underwhelming, I wouldn’t mind more punch via armor piercing to compensate

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I really dig all these changes honestly no notes

plush thicket
mystic lotus
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Especially fond of the tranq pistol change… still waiting on that armor removal. Plus with the health recovering over time it forces the user to space out their shots for maximum healing efficiency which would in turn not run the ammo dry immediately which is nice

plush thicket
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Lets you heal more people where you can dart a guy and move on

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But it's not instantaneous as a tradeoff

deft tangle
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All hits no miss

mystic lotus
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all fax no printer

bright mountain
maiden turtle
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Bear trap has a chance to not clamp onto a dinosaur?

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Why? Wtf? 😂

sour prawn
bright mountain
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I totally skimmed over that lol

maiden turtle
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Yea i didnt know that was a thing, and i am struggling to see why it would need to be a thing too

barren cedar
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PLEASE falloff for flame slammer it’s so annoying getting hit by 1 as a light class then being forced to find water or food or else death

spring wigeon
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everything sounds pretty good but I wouldn't touch the bow, it can be pretty annoying

plush thicket
maiden turtle
plush thicket
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Real

limber chasm
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You sure? I used to use bear traps all the time before 3.0 unless they silently made it so it doesn’t clamp on the dino after 3.0

strange sequoia
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It’s always been a thing, if you move fast enough over a bear trap it has a chance to not clamp you

bright granite
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I always thought that was just a glitch/bug

strange sequoia
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No it’s intentional

zealous acorn
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i was always so confused as to why they just didnt activate sometimes after mindlessly running over them as a dino

deft tangle
plush thicket
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I was almost gonna advocate for a super small buff to zap traps aoe but i felt that was pushing it

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Bear trap needs a buff before anything else is changed

maiden turtle
plush thicket
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fair lol

maiden turtle
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I want a nerf to them where flyers are only effected when on ground

plush thicket
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as much as im scared to buff ptera resistence to not picking people up or dropping them, it really sucks rn not being able to grab or hold anyone it feels like

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it feels like theres so much nonsense that can trigger it and you just lose the kill

maiden turtle
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Its the stupid glowing when you grab people

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Wing flaps dont help with that issue too

plush thicket
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I think if ptera just glided around a lot more would help too

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idk if that would mess with coded stuff but it would be cool if ptera just glided around a lot more quietly

maiden turtle
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Flyers should be able to have spitters ride on them

plush thicket
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will be added after meltdown

maiden turtle
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On the topic of bear trap would anyone be opposed to the bear trap itself being a bit bigger and darker coloured?

spring wigeon
zealous acorn
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flying anywhere near the humans if they arent already distracted by the entire dino team is just holding up a megaphone screaming SHOOT ME SHOOT ME

plush thicket
limber chasm
spring wigeon
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not saying that they don't work, but i've generally had more success w/ landmines

maiden turtle
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Prob cus they are like bear traps that kill the dinosaur for you

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And can effect anything larger than Nova

strange sequoia
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Land mines are just better because of instakill factor alone

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Straight damage, you don’t have torunover

spring wigeon
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plus no delay and it has AoE damage

strange sequoia
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Ya

maiden turtle
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Bear traps rlly need some looking at to find an actual use for it, but i wont derail this thread into a Bear trap one

spring wigeon
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cool gimmick for the guy called "the trapper" but not the most practical rn

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It should definitely be able to re-arm itself and have an infinite placement lifetime atleast but that's been said before

limber chasm
spring wigeon
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maybe, would give it some extra utility as a set and forget that'll last until tampered w/

limber chasm
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Just to be clear what I mean by trap uses is like how many times a dino can get trapped with the same bear trap

wide lodge
wide lodge
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stungun also now has charge-up and charge loop sounds in Evolution

plush thicket
quiet pond
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these are all sick