Less Stamina Expenditure with Secondary Weapons

[south heron]

As the title says, in this case it would apply to running with these weapons, running with the AR, Flamesaw, Assault Canon, etc; it is understandable that due to the weight humans spend the amount of stamina that we have now, but making it so that less stamina is spent when running and carrying the Deagle, Flaregun, Tranq pistol, etc; would be a little more striking to carry these weapons. It is not about gaining speed, but rather making it last a couple of seconds to run with humans when wearing these weapons. Of course this would be a bit of a problem in the case of Trapper since the Netgun is noticeably heavier than carrying the Dual Colts, in this case it would be the other way around, although there would also be some confusion with the Stungun being a small weapon

[mellow ledge]

You can just class a weapon as “small” or “large” to solve your stun gun bit

[main fjord]

So you run slower with heavy weapons?

[mellow ledge]

Nowhere does it say you change speed

[main fjord]

Well I don't understand what its asking

[mellow ledge]

Large weapon: same consumption as it is now
Small weapon: a few more seconds of stamina

[main fjord]

for melee?

[mellow ledge]

What

[main fjord]

oh carrying it

so you do run slower with it

[mellow ledge]

Smaller weapons don’t do heavy melee so they already take less stamina, it’s for running.

[main fjord]

ik

[weak acorn]

Run at the same speed, more stamina if you have a small weapon equipped

[mellow ledge]

No. There would be no changes to that. It says you get to run a little longer with a small weapon. “Not about gaining speed”. Just lets you run longer if you’re using a smaller weapon

[main fjord]

but why more stam? becuase youre not holding the main weapon out?

[mellow ledge]

Because a pistol is a hell of a lot lighter than a rifle

[south heron]

Thats a good idea 😮

[main fjord]

so you use more stam running with it? It would make more sense if it was the main weapon

[mellow ledge]

I feel like you’re reading a different suggestion than I am

If you’re using a large weapon, it would be the exact same as it is right now. If you use a pistol, then you consume less stamina, and run a little longer

[main fjord]

okay, I read it wrong sorry

I don't think this should be added anyway, you're still carrying a heavy weapon on you so it weighs you down, just keep the speed the same. don't touch it

[lethal shadow]

You’re still reading it wrong

Hold big gun (Primary):
Stam go down normal when run
Hold small gun (secondary):
Stam go down less when run

[main fjord]

Idk, Im on the fence

[mellow ledge]

I can’t think of any real downside for this, and it helps preserve stamina

[main fjord]

speed greed?

[pastel trail]

No

[lavish surge]

I mean the suggestion makes sense

[pastel trail]

Just less stam drain when running holding your sexondaru weapon

[mellow ledge]

What flavor of English is that

[lavish surge]

Strawberry

[pastel trail]

wrong flavor

[lavish surge]

Damn :(

[pastel trail]

Im alien remember look at my picture

[mellow ledge]

Carmen I can not believe you don’t know all the flavors of English

[lavish surge]

Do you think I pay attention to literally anything

[mellow ledge]

I can’t forgive you for this

[mellow ledge]

No, but that’s beyond the point

[mellow ledge]

That’s not the alien from alien, so clearly that’s not an alien

[pastel trail]

We are called galamapaxaza

[mellow ledge]

Be alien instead

[steady prawn]

considering how quick swapping weapons is, i feel like all this really does is give humans more stamina, cos people will just swap back and forth in an instant

also
it's not like you're any lighter depending on what you're holding, you still have your primary on your person

[lavish surge]

True

[main fjord]

thats what I was trying to say

[main fjord]

here if you didn't see or read it Jurassic

[tidal crater]

reminds me of an old counter strike saying "everyone runs faster with a knife.."

[lethal shadow]

Fair, but I’d imagine holding the primary in your hand is quite clunky to run with. Running with a 30 pound sack of flour in your backpack’s not gonna be fast, but I’d imagine it’s faster than running with that sack of flour in your arms

[vivid hazel]

neat little idea

[south heron]

It's similar, except you wouldn't run faster, but your stamina would decrease a little more slowly xd

[tidal crater]

eh, not the worst idea in the world. stam drain is honestly pretty quick for humans. a way to run longer is an interesting extra wrinkle.

would be more valuable once the variable run speeds are in, i think those are only on ps4 currently (scientist is fastest)

[spring veldt]

Pretty sure scientist is faster than other human classes on PC PCE as well

[sterile geyser]

The weight of the heavy gun doesn't simply go away, it's on your back, you'd still get just as tired

Oh nvm the sauriac liked it

[sterile geyser]

I forgot you did that, is pyro gonna be the slowest?

[lethal shadow]

Not sure that’s the greatest idea, given that she already has the means to make herself faster with a selfish speedgreed

[sterile geyser]

Fair argument actually

I feel like if anything Pathfinder should be the fastest human imo

Scientist should stay weaker at close range

[mellow ledge]

I would've said pathfinder could be faster but he'd die if he tried now, so trapper could be the fastest one

[lethal shadow]

Pathy does sound like he’d need a nap after a 5 minute jog lol

[lavish surge]

if pyro runs for more than 5 seconds he gets a heart attack and dies

[mellow ledge]

For the longest time I had a thought of:
Pyro = Most health
Mando = Most stamina
Trapper = Fastest (as of late)

[sterile geyser]

Pathy gives me vibes of an old man that jogs everyday

Like he never gave up his cardio routine

Plus it fits him more as the shotgun class

[mellow ledge]

I feel like extra jump height would make sense for scientist cause she'd be a sniper and climb around but that would be awful

[torpid iron]

mando should have middle of the road stats bc he's just the average human class jack of all trades

and pathy stamina

[sterile geyser]

Scientist has no business being so evasive and trapper can just invalidate every small dino with his net gun and traps so no need to be fast

[lethal shadow]

Given his job as a wilderness guide, I’d be inclined to agree (He at least takes the dogs for a walk lol)

[sterile geyser]

If any human deserves more mobility than the rest it's pathfinder tbh

Like character wise and class wise too

And now that I think of it the whole heavy melee stun could be made exclusive for mando, look at them arms

[whole sage]

If sci is gonna be the fastest then take some of her health away.