Looking for a MMO which I can find community.

[hardy imp]

Hello everyone,

I've been an active player for most of the biggest MMO games but I was not able to find a community that I can be part of. The issue I had was most of the communities in the popular games are already shaped and it's hard to adapt yourself to them (I've been to too many groups in both WoW and FFXIV and I had the same issue).

So I've decided to start to play a private server of a game that already has a small group in it happy to welcome newcomers instead of trying to find groups in popular big MMO games.

In short, I'm looking for an MMO game with a small community. My priority is to feel the old socializing and community days of MMO so the gameplay will be my second priority (This is why I'm thinking private servers might be a good solution). I'm open to any suggestions.

[spice hedge]

might wanna start off with project gorgon

closed communities form even before games release because discord, reddit and forums exist

the only way to mitigate that is by joining them early on, or start playing a new mmo as soon as it releases

or it could simply be a "YOU" problem of not being able to feel comfortable inside stablished communities... if that's the case you can try starting and managing your own groups/guilds

[fresh ether]

You could try recently relaunched games, like Tree of Savior, Eden Eternal, or Aura Kingdom. Palia and Cinderstone Online are new games that are coming out that might meet your social needs.

[limber burrow]

New World due to the small servers tends to have good communities where you really feel like a part of it

like you actually know people and guilds are always recruiting

[hardy imp]

Good suggestion. I've also tried to play New World again 2 days ago (I played it around 100 hours when it first released). But I realized the game is dead and the devs are abandoned the game. Community is so mad to devs due to lack of attention but they keep playing since they invest a lot of time into the game. So I decided to stay out of it xD But it's so sad to see the game's current status say the least.

I also wanted to include my reddit comment to here.

[limber burrow]

Devs literally post frequent dev update videos on Youtube about the game updates and answering player questions

Not at all abandoned

[hardy imp]

They’re delaying most of the things they’ve promised already. (Transmog system is the one I can think of atm). They even not updating the known issues section xD anyways no need to discuss New World on this post. Let’s hope the devs that taken from New World to new Lotro game can make something cool.

[torn dune]

Most mmos have fair to good social communities. However, just like the real world, effort is required to find / get into one.

As for smaller mmos I think Groo's answer is incredibly valid

[hardy imp]

Yeah but some of them are designed to prioritize socializing. Like ATITD or old MMORPGs like EverQuest, StarWarsGalaxies, etc.

Nowadays most MMORPG games are trying to be solo friendly so killing all these socializing, helping (needing) each other features. I hope this explanation makes my point more clear.

[torn dune]

Its been a hot minute since I've played EQ, what feature did EQ add to prioritize socialization?

[hardy imp]

I’m talking in general not just EQ, to beat a dungeon you have to form a dungeon instead of a random auto dungeon finder. Instead of picking, and making meta builds you're able to play any class you want freely.

For example, I love playing characters like Bard, heale, etc. To buff and help people along the way similar to classes crafting something and helping people etc. But most of the modern mmos they’re all there to be exposed, abused. This is why I’m looking for a game that has these features and also has a good, small community. So I can play and enjoy whatever I want freely with people.

[torn dune]

But is looking for a tank via chat social?

Imo thats not socialization. Nor is deciding between meta and non meta builds..

[hardy imp]

IMO yes. Because that means (if everybody doing it) the people need each other to progress. And this is how people can get a chance to know each other, meet and play more together and so on.

[torn dune]

That same chance is there with party finder systems.

I'm not arguing for the sport of it. Im a dev, im genuinely picking your brain from a place of good intention.

[hardy imp]

Umm then I might be the problem idk, because in the games I played it was being like this

Press Group Finder>Queue>Start>Fight>End nothing more. Without even a single message.

Only time I felt okay was the FFXIV raids. But again we were just talking about the boss and bosses mechanics nothing else. It was not socializing because after that everybody was just leaving the raid as expected because nobody needs anyone at all they can simply click group finder once more when they wanted to play.

[hardy imp]

Me too btw xD so no worries. it's okay to brainstorm I agree.

[torn dune]

Imo older mmos did not add anything to grant socialization.

It was however, a great option to socialize as other forms didn't really exist.

Thats been replaced with places like reddit, and apps like discord.

MMOs didn't abandon socialization... socialization abandoned mmos.

So to speak...

Its about path of least resistance. It's far easier for me to socialize on discord

I can post memes link videos, etc

Where will MMOs regain socialization? When it becomes easier to communicate in game.

[hardy imp]

I can see your point and I can agree with you.

[hardy imp]

I think we still have some games that are pushing players to socialize though. Like ATITD.

I don’t think the mainstream games will be like that anymor. But still, some small games will try to prioritize in-game communication.

My point is selling something with trading people themselves, talking about making bargains are more valuable than selling by just facing with the UI

I can agree that all these improvements are making everything faster and more playable but for sure less valuable.

I’m here playing MMORPGs for adventures, socializing, and communicating with strangers we share the same digital world 😄

Might be unnecessarily emotional but this is what I value in MMORPG games not grinding or getting the best weapons just to be the most powerful people on the server.

[torn dune]

I VERY much understand that part.

[torn dune]

VR.

Where you're gonna find that, is a platform where its easier for folks to talk, and ask questions than it is to google it.

The population of the mmo-sphere that genuinely wants to socialize, as the primary goal of an mmo, is very small.

I get it, I do, thats just the reality. its a small, and VERY vocal group.

[hardy imp]

Yeah you're right about that if only "zenith: the last city" had been successful xD

[torn dune]

Zenith, and Orbus are.... rough

https://youtu.be/s10GGfP42hg

Ilysia's beta 1 is today... I think. we should see some better footage of that come to light

[hardy imp]

Yeah I know. And I'm not always like this xD sometimes I just happy to grind as usual and face some cool bosses. but nowadays I just want to play a chill game with the mechanics of trading, fishing etc. That's all otherwise probably I will go back to Azeroth or Hydaelyn in the end xD

[hardy imp]

Uh I wasn't know that thanks.

[torn dune]

ILYSIA feels like a vanilla WoW in VR.

[hardy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

[torn dune]

hopefully they can deliver on that.

Our team also has a vr mmo plans, but thats for after Valorbound

[hardy imp]

Hey I also want to know more about your game if it's possible can we chat about that on DM?