[RESOLVED] SimplePlanes 2 was launched as a response to Flyout

[haughty chasm]

Okay now hear me out on this one
First off:

1. Before Flyout, SimplePlanes had basically no competition
2. Simpleplanes doesn’t really have much to play around with without code editing
3. Flyout is much more advanced than SimplePlanes and is more akin to Sprocket in the editor really

And now SimplePlanes 2 is not only in the works, but from what we’ve seen from player craft showcases on YouTube and #showcase in this Discord, it seems like a lot of what they are improving on is what Flyout has beaten them in. Of course, I could just be going insane due to Flyout’s current situation but who knows?

The thing that sparked this was the new wing editor, which seems similar to the wing system in Flyout.

[native quest]

Seems like it, but Juno and SimplePlanes ain't gonna pay for Jundroo's bills forever. I feel SimplePlanes 2 is inevitable whether Flyout exists or not.

[astral bridge]

yeah I would tend to agree that sp2 was going to happen anyways, especially because even though flyout is "competition", most people who have flyout already have Simpleplanes anyway

[dusky spear]

I mean, SP2 was already anticipated before flyout's debut

[abstract pilot]

sp1 is just too old

example being the reason the blueprint/connection/fine tuner buttons are behind the eye/rotate thing is because they couldn't add another button to the builder ui lmao

[blissful crow]

when was flyout first a thing? as I mentioned in the pinned comment on this week's blog post, I started the foundations for the new wing stuff at least as far back as 2021 (that's how far my source tracking for it goes back). sp2 is really a direct evolution from SP and I've tried to keep that alive as much as I can in what I've added

and none of this is really from a standpoint of "oh no, [game] is going to beat us!"
the market for games like this isn't anywhere as saturated as something like first person shooters, so other games doing well is in my opinion good for the whole genre and it's not usually a cause for celebrations if a competitor fails

[astral bridge]

yeah a lot of discourse around new games is like people calling X game "KSP killer" or something for example, when in reality i (and many others) just have all of these games in my steam library

[haughty chasm]

Ah okay, the timing of the first trailer just seemed to fit into this really well, and obviously many of the points I stated above just seemed to fit as well. This was mostly copium from Flyout’s current situation, but thanks for clarifying anyway.

I really hope that Stone is okay and that he isn’t in possible danger or trouble

[haughty chasm]

I’m sorry if that’s an awkward time to respond for you, I live in +12 GMT timezones

[lost gull]

Screw flyout and stone. Flyout hasn't had an update in over a year. Sp2 is what we need, I just hope it has procedural Piston engines and props and gearboxes

[lucid spindle]

Tbf, isn't he like the only main developer of the game

[lost gull]

He also hasn't said anything in over a year. I know a few single person developer teams and they at least post on discord or something or update us of progress.

[lucid spindle]

True but don't hate the guy, something out of his control probably happened if he's been gone for over a year

[lost gull]

I don't hate him lol. Just venting my frustrations by smack talking him.

I do hope he's ok. Other than that, some theories say he made the game as a cash grab (I don't believe that). It would be more believable that he just abandoned the game, but I hope not

[swift ridge]

flyout got no updates? wha hapen

[lost gull]

Yeah, and we don't know

[hoary crane]

But flyout Is more than dead, not even mention the learning curve Is not for all

[haughty chasm]

Stone kinda just disappeared

[wraith mortar]

FLYOUT IS DEAD

[astral bridge]

flyout is alive

[astral bridge]

what if stone was just drafted into the finnish military and he comes back

i have hope

[keen shore]

Flyout server admin here, Stone just came back yesterday.

One of the other admins was able to contact him, he's fine.

Things might be going back to full gear with Flyout.

[haughty chasm]

This is great news! Maybe Messier will be able to make new content!

Honestly I’m surprised I haven’t heard about this since I’m in Messier’s discord and the Flyout discord

[wraith mortar]

Stone gotta overclock cuz Simpleplanes 2 gonna compete, and i have high expectations of it winning

[keen shore]

Messier made an announcement about it in the community section of his YT channel.

[haughty chasm]

Yeah I saw it like 10 minutes after reading your comment

[swift ridge]

yay

[sweet sparrow]

THE HEAVY IS DEAD!

[autumn wasp]

Messier needs to do SP2

[novel matrix]

hard doubt

[astral bridge]

i am a hard believer that it's coming back to full gear

[haughty chasm]

No it’s genuine

[novel matrix]

i'll believe it when i see it

just wanted to point this out

[autumn wasp]

Uh, what?

[balmy zodiac]

This guy has quite the history of harassing and making false accusations against the Flyout mod team ^^

[keen shore]

Not just them, but people in the server too.

[balmy zodiac]

Assuming you mean they make accusations against the entire server

[keen shore]

that too, but I remember hearing he harrassed a couple of people in server.

of with like, false allegations and death threats

[autumn wasp]

I personally like flyout from the videos i've seen

[true oriole]

Stop coming up with random nonsense...

[haughty chasm]

This isn’t true

[RESOLVED] SimplePlanes 2 was launched as a response to Flyout

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[cold rock]

Yo