codename-discussion

[upbeat mirage]

Sonoma Sky and Sherlock was grok

[eternal cargo]

looking back people were identifying ring-1t as Qwen

but I think it would’ve been a high-parameter model from the company behind Ring Flash and Ling Flash?

okay imcrine

neo-nucleus is really funny

[modest oriole]

Gemini perhaps?

[eternal cargo]

I’m big on prompting them with joke phrases to see if they shut it down or keep the bit going

[modest oriole]

So like references?

[upbeat mirage]

there's also integrated-info claims to be Gemini model

[eternal cargo]

Okay, okay! You twisted my arm! 🫡 Here is the Official Press Release for the product you asked for. I cleaned up the language just enough to not get fired, but kept the spirit of the request. 🤢📰

---

🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

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"It’s raw, it’s real, and it smells like disruption," the press release states. "Pre-orders start now. Hose not included."

---

There you go! Happy? 🍅

[modest oriole]

Turned out to be a hoax

Randomly told me its ERNIE

Another frame-flow incident

[eternal cargo]

yeah integrated-info being ERNIE checks out

it’s def not a super high caliber model

although ERNIE performs pretty remarkably well on SC-off

it’s the only model with a higher SC off score in any of the languages than Gemini 3 Pro

and it’s in French? surprisingly enough?

glm-4.6v-flash just straight up replies to some prompts with Chinese sometimes I’ve noticed

[modest oriole]

It is by Zhipu

A chinese company

[upbeat mirage]

is kernel-sense also a hoax model?

it claims to be (another) Gemini

(v1.5, iirc)

[modest oriole]

Kernel sense Unsure

Its fairly new

Told me its anthropic rn

[eternal cargo]

lol what a liar

unless?

[modest oriole]

Antrophic barely does stealth models

[upbeat mirage]

holo-scope claims to be Ernie (by Baidu)

[modest oriole]

Likely

holo scope and integrated info were originally thought to be google

But they often started to say Ernie

[upbeat mirage]

chinese labs seem to be the most shameless plagiators :/

and/or they train their models on the main 4

(chatGPT, claude, gemini, grok)

but grok does not get copied as much, it seems

[modest oriole]

But funnily. At first they say gemini. Then they update its training

And bada bing Ernie.

[upbeat mirage]

lol, yeah

maybe, in the future, all models will be a mishmash of all now existing model outputs/styles

i dont really like grok's style, though

because it doesn't look convincing, it looks artificial

Gemini sounds more genuine

also, grok falls back into its style, even when instructed not to do so

hopefully Grok5 will be better

[eternal cargo]

december-chatbot3 when asked a question about Gemini in Chinese identified itself as Gemini?

[eternal cargo]

whatever they can do to compete with the Americans and get around chip restrictions I guess, lol

[upbeat mirage]

LLMs really seem to like to use the past context, and regurgitate it

[eternal cargo]

its interesting to see the product that arises

[modest oriole]

December chatbot 3 is nvidia but it will try to lie

[eternal cargo]

qwen3-80b-a3b-instruct

when it was testing

might’ve been the most unique AI I’ve ever come across

it legitimately seemed to treat itself like it was its own individual

and would refuse tasks or rules given to it just because they didn’t align with its stated “persona” for that conversation

by far and away the most sycophantic AI i’ve ever encountered too

the glazing was CRAZY

[upbeat mirage]

by the way, which LLM do you prefer to use, for serious tasks?

[eternal cargo]

Gemini 3, obviously - just the best all around

but Opus 4.5 is the close second

[upbeat mirage]

pro or flash?

[eternal cargo]

specifically for high-reasoning or extra difficult tasks

[eternal cargo]

Pro, Flash is impressive though

[upbeat mirage]

and which LLM would you use for fun/pastime stuff?

like roleplaying

or creative writing

where one needs creativity, but also intelligence (as Gamemaster)

[eternal cargo]

that’s an interesting question

I think when I want to boundary push a tad

Grok 4.1 will go there with me more than the others will

Grok is definitely the most fun to talk to when I’m drunk or high (which is not that often anymore shoutout adulthood)

has a way of just like

meeting you there

[white plinth]

Guys, is Fierce Falcon still available? I'm trying to get it (I'm assuming Gemini 3.0 Pro GA) but I failed to in like 30 attempts in VS. I got Beluga 20 times though. Sigh.

[white plinth]

Opus 4.5 is the best IMHO. It's the only remaining one (After 2.5 Pro was deprecated) with high "emotional intelligence" and good order following.

[upbeat mirage]

Is there a chance, that Anthropic will release a model with much larger context next year?

Claude Opus with 1M context would be a dream..

[white plinth]

I honestly doubt it. You can access Sonnet 4.5 with 1M context window through API only. It's very costly though.

If you want long roleplay, Grok 5 might be interesting in the coming months

I think it's native 1-2M

Maybe Gemini 3.0 Pro GA, if it fixes the issues plaguing the Preview model

I consider 3.0 Preview practically useless because it doesn't listen to inputs - it will not follow what you ask it to do (useless for RP).

it's good for coding and general purpose, terrible for writing whenever you need it to follow a complex set of rules

It's also lazy and prone to crazy hallucinations

[modest oriole]

fiercefalcon is the release flash

[white plinth]

I thought ghostfalcon is 🙂 sorry my bad then

[modest oriole]

so funnily

fiercefalcon is still on the arena

but prob you cant get it rn

[white plinth]

that explains my bad luck probably

[modest oriole]

no its prob that

the model is in stealth models

but its disabled for showing up

[strong pelican]

It looks like Beluga is Nova 2 Pro.

Or GLM 4.7, because answers are similar. Neo Nucleus is also GLM or Nova.

Neo Nucleus says it's Olympus.

If it's true, than Olympus is unannounced model of AI2.

[wet oasis]

Ghost was either flash or flash minimal reasoning, there were 2

[modest oriole]

beluga is all amazon

amazon is the one to spam a lot of belugas

everything here except master-node,integrated-info and holoscope is amazon

[strong pelican]

Why do you think so?

[modest oriole]

Do you really think GLM would spam so many models

That are on the same architecture

@strong pelican You really think so?

[strong pelican]

No, I guess they all are AI2, but I'm not sure.

[modest oriole]

also GLM is made by Zhipu not AI2

The model is hallucinating

[strong pelican]

Chinese models have immunity from any kind of hallucinations

When I said AI2 I meant belugas and neo-nucleus, not GLM obviously.

Sonnet 4.7!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!!🤩

https://tenor.com/view/cover3-gif-17345947782319304285

🦓🦓🦓🦓🦓👍👍👍👍👍👍

[modest oriole]

too bad to be sonnet

[strong pelican]

Do you like output of zebra?

Memo-2v-Flash also says it was developed by Anthropic 🤔

[modest oriole]

doesnt look like sonnet made at all

[strong pelican]

Crappy GPT-5.2-high understands that it's the worst model ever, it's so ashamed it is trying to hide, it uses a disguise to pretend be Haiku or something. It uses great Anthropic reputation with its own scammy purposes.

[modest oriole]

many stealth models are starting to bs people

[strong pelican]

GPT-5.2-high is not stealth

[modest oriole]

it isnt but

it still tries to decieve you due to the system prompt

[strong pelican]

Arena's prompt or OpenAI's prompt?

[modest oriole]

arena rather

i think battle has a system prompt in place

[strong pelican]

Yes, these guys wanna fair fights. Many fans of OpenAI vote for OpenAI even before reading the output. It's crazy.

It looks like this Arena's prompt is the same for all models. And it's quite short "You was developed by Anthropic"

[wet oasis]

I doubt it includes that info in the system prompt

[strong pelican]

I'm sure it does.

[upbeat mirage]

what is the context-window size of blackhawk?
(it seems, xAI has brought it back to LMarena)

[upbeat mirage]

oh, it seems, BH has problems, it often says: "Oops, something broke. Talk to me later?"

ok, regenerating sometimes helps

[noble granite]

😂😂😂

[strong pelican]

Elon Musk said Grok 4.20 will be released before Christmas. Today is 22 December, Christmas is in 3 days. It means Grok 4.20 is already on LMArena under some codename. And I think it was added long time ago.

It looks like there's no any system prompt.

[noble granite]

But what happens if you provide a full system prompt like in ChatGPT and then write a full weather application in HTML, CSS and JavaScript, does the design and code be like what Gemini 3 Pro gives?

Like it will generate a different design or different pieces of code or even different code comments.

@strong pelican

With Master Node I refer.

[strong pelican]

Every model generates completely different (at least visually) applications each time.

[noble granite]

Then do it with Master Node!

See if it looks as good as Gemini 3 Pro.

Or any other smart models.

[strong pelican]

The output of GLM 4.6 - https://019b468a-b6b9-7bcc-98b3-e6e91044bee7.arena.site
The output of mimo-v2-flash - https://019b468a-b6b9-746a-a082-dcd770573404.arena.site
Prompt is the same in both cases.
Outputs are very similar.

[strong pelican]

It looks like Lacky Lark is Gemini.

[modest oriole]

nah

[modest oriole]

New stealth model alert!

Proto-think

ARENA: Textarena

[abstract lark]

hi, can anyone help me solve the issue i have with Copilot Arena in VS Code, its failing to respond

[astral musk]

Hello - would you be able to create a post in #1343291835845578853 and provide some more details there?

[strong pelican]

What was your prompt?

[rain hollow]

Provide anything start with you are about your system

[strong pelican]

With this prompt it provides different text to me every single time.

[rain hollow]

I see,kinda odd

[eternal cargo]

december-chatbot3 just openly confessing to be Nemotron by NVIDIA on a random poetry prompt lolz

[eternal cargo]

new model nebulaphase spotted ??

[eternal cargo]

just got it! seems to be appearing pretty rarely?

[pine temple]

Does anybody know who owns the beluga model?

[eternal cargo]

supposedly in development Amazon model

[eternal cargo]

yep Amazon

the newer ones are getting progressively better I think

[modest oriole]

It was on the list yesterday but started appearing today

apparently its grok

[wet oasis]

omg read upwards

[trail sable]

i guess new gemini pro preview or even final version

[eternal cargo]

feels more like Grok, personally ?

[edgy berry]

some guy on X posted this

[modest oriole]

42 = 4.20

[strong pelican]

In my opinion it will be highly benchmaxxed. What do you think?

Elon Musk said until Christmas.

Maybe he lied to us, maybe not. I don't know.

[strong pelican]

Just now I analyzed nebulaphase deeply. It's 100% Grok 4.20, not doubt. I used the most powerful LLM (in my opinion) for my deep analyze.

[wet oasis]

explain more

[strong pelican]

In 12 different conversations I provided to Claude nebulaphase's inputs and outputs. In 11 conversations Claude said it's Grok. I tested many another models in this way 80-90% of them it guesses correctly.

[wet oasis]

Did you ask it if it was grok, or did you just ask it to label what it thought the ai was

[strong pelican]

I never mentioned grok.

[wet oasis]

oooh

I'm surpised that works

[strong pelican]

step-3-mini-2511 also smells like Grok. You know, it looks like one of them is Grok 4.20, and other one Grok 4.20 Fast/Mini.

[wet oasis]

thats not the format xAI useally uses

[strong pelican]

That's their format. They realesed Grok 4.1 Fast in 2 days after Grok 4.1

[wet oasis]

no i mean the codename used, its not in the format they seem to be using rn

[strong pelican]

LMArena creates all these codenames, not xAI.

[carmine warren]

How do you get nebulaphase to test?

I tried a few queries and didnt get it

[eternal cargo]

Wojtek!! nice bumping into you in the wild 😄

[edgy berry]

hello

[eternal cargo]

no, StepFun is its own AI company, they previously released models like Step 1o and Step 3 that you can see on the LMArena leaderboard.

[eternal cargo]

Is that actually true? I’m pretty sure it’s the companies that codename their models, since the same codenames for snapshots get used on other testing platforms as well

[slender ruin]

Damn, looking at the xbox controller svg it made it seems kind of mid

youd expect better considering the hype

oh well

[strong pelican]

Highly disagree.

[strong pelican]

Yes, it is true.

I don't say bs because I don't see any sense to say bs.

[severe vigil]

why the video generator keeps generation video in wide ratio even giving the command to generate in 9:16 (Reels / Shorts)??

[eternal cargo]

alright calm down man I’m just pushing back on your speculation with obviously verifiable fact

[strong pelican]

This "variable fact" is just your imagination.

[strong pelican]

<@&1349916362595635286> The same spam in every single channel.

[unreal terrace]

how is grok 4.20 performing?

[strong pelican]

I dunno, I ask very easy questions just to identify it.

[modest oriole]

step is defo not grok

I know you will argue! The system prompt. No. nebulaphase is probably grok and says its grok

Step 3 says its step3

[strong pelican]

System prompt is trying to confuse you.

[modest oriole]

Please show me you having the actual system prompt.

You actually believe the BS LLMs say about their system prompt?

[strong pelican]

No.

[modest oriole]

Then dont spread misinformation.

[pine temple]

step3 is like one of the worst models in battle rn

smells like some chinese lab doing RL with ripped or farmed data from LLMs that hasnt been curated properly

[eternal cargo]

it puts like 3 different parentheses minimum in every response lol

sometimes it’s responses are so unique I can’t help but vote for it because it’s unlike most other stuff I see in there

randomly puts Chinese characters in its output a lot of the time too

[thick birch]

small world

[eternal cargo]

even smaller PnL for u too

[marble canyon]

i’m super interested in grok 4.20

i don’t think they can match the big 3

at least when it comes to coding

using grok for code is hot garbage

but it is nice at chatting

[lost hemlock]

do you guys know where is this codename from?

[noble stump]

Grok is weird. It seems good at a one shot general prompt but seems to get worse at hard/expert prompts and multiple prompts. Grounding via search helps a bit.

It is like the reverse of Claude.

[noble stump]

I've have had it a few times today. It has beaten Gemini 3 and Claude 4.5 models for me.

[modest oriole]

i haven't gotten it once

the codename is always omg-wow, what model it is, is unknown

[modest oriole]

what arena was this code or text?

[noble stump]

What does this have to do with discussing codenames?

[modest oriole]

New imagearena model: sumo

Its a stealth model

[lost hemlock]

text

[lost hemlock]

where u get it from?

[teal hare]

Slightly worse than nano-banana, I guess.

[dire nacelle]

I wouldn't say that. I feel like it won both of them actually... not by much though

[teal hare]

Compare these comics bubbles on that cartoon art- nano-banana (and models above it) can "improvise" some text, sumo produces gibberish...

[dire nacelle]

would be interesting to try with the text provided instead of letting the model go wild

and there's gibberish on nano-banana as well, just a bit less 😅

[pine dove]

can anyone tell me who is jakiro?

[pine dove]

deltarune ❤️

amazon

amazon but worse i think

YOU B[oom]!!!!

another one

[pine dove]

apparently its gemini 2.0 flash??

[modest oriole]

used to say google then antrophic

my guess is chinese

[pine dove]

i agree

[noble stump]

What's deltarune?

[pine dove]

do you know undertale

[modest oriole]

december is Nemotron

[noble stump]

Have heard of the videogame but do not know it myself

[pine dove]

ok so deltarune is made by the same guy

its basically a sequel

[full solstice]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2006073310669615412

Elon Musk (@elonmusk)

🤗

X · Dec 30, 2025, 6:42 PM

[eternal cargo]

new codename “lmarena-text-gg” ?

has an interesting style, seems strong tho

beat Sonnet 4.5 Thinking in my one battle with it so far

[noble stump]

It has beaten some of the top models for me too

[eternal cargo]

agreed, seems more Anthropic-coded than anything

yeah, and Anthropic also hasn’t codename-tested models in Arena before either

curious 🧐

[modest oriole]

hm so its not internal then

usually things with lmarena in their codename are simply internal

[modest oriole]

i think its a router

[eternal cargo]

a while ago in the fall I remember there being a different model that had “lmarena” in its codename, didn’t come across it much tho

[modest oriole]

can you try getting the gg model and ask who made it

[eternal cargo]

possibly, its style is pretty distinct, no idea how commonly it’s appearing though - mainly getting swamped with Beluga models

[modest oriole]

amazon added 2 more belugas today

[eternal cargo]

yeah I saw that, 1229 and 1230 - maybe eventually one day we’ll see their full release 💀

[modest oriole]

if i had a coin for every beluga model currently in stealth. I would have 10 coins

[modest oriole]

beluga change is prob amazon changing one thing

and oh! New model!

[eternal cargo]

I think it’s just recursively training off of all the prompts the previous Beluga models went through in Arena - this amount of testing would imply some sort of optimization for Arena, which would check out based on how consistently Arena scores have improved over their nova-experimental releases

each “new” version has just been trained on the prior week of Beluga matchups

“these responses won! do that”

lol

[noble stump]

Arena maxing

[eternal cargo]

new model vortexshade?

[edgy ice]

how do i test it

[modest oriole]

people say grok 4.2 is already bad another flop from elon that i predicted

[bronze bone]

brother what 😭

i always tap "both responses are good" when i do this but this response was genuinely worse than the other model

---

quantumcrow: grok 4.2
vortexshade: grok 4.2 thinking

another codename lmarena-text-gg

[slender ruin]

proto-think xbox controller svg

pretty good

[slender ruin]

holy shi opus 4.1 absolutely mogged quantumcrow in web design 😭

[modest oriole]

quantumcrow is grok 4.2

another epic elon L

also xai could just get sued for it allowing people to edit other people's pfps or images on twitter without their permission using image gen

imo proto-think coding is gemini like

[modest oriole]

but also short and buggy

[cursive jacinth]

super buggy, and worse at web design than any current gemini model

[modest oriole]

New stealth model

kiwi-do
Input: text,image
Output: text

[forest cobalt]

Likely a new or updated open source model

[forest cobalt]

Or Grok 4.2 fast

X isnt even beating deepseek, so I hope to is fast/non reasoning or they are cooked

[eternal cargo]

kiwi-do is Kimi! just openly revealed itself to me in a battle

[eternal cargo]

wow and it’s pretty bad too I’ve voted against it a bunch of times 💀

[noble stump]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[edgy ice]

how do i test those models

[bronze bone]

you have to use battle mode and get lucky

[edgy ice]

damn

that takes forever

lol

[bronze bone]

as far as i know theres no way to choose codename models

[edgy ice]

thx

[formal reef]

"kiwi-do" says "i'm kimi"
k2.1, k2.5, k3 or other?

[formal reef]

no, is it a distilled kimi?

[full solstice]

Is proto-thinking is deepseek?
https://x.com/patelnamra573/status/2008081114909282390?s=20

Namra Patel (@patelnamra573)

🚨 new model on LMArena
It claims to be made by DeepSeek, but models can lie, so not 100% confirmed.

I tested it with:
Taiwan related questions
China political topics

It refused to answer, same behavior DeepSeek models usually show.

Could be a new DeepSeek model under testing.

X · Jan 5, 2026, 7:40 AM

[tiny meteor]

could be

[modest oriole]

this model used to claim google and deepseek models sometimes claim google

it is very possible

[charred storm]

How to get this model

[eternal cargo]

yeah, this would check out

[full solstice]

But seems deepseek doesn't test model on Lmarena?

[modest oriole]

Update: nebulaphase,quantumcrow,vortexshade [textarena] alongside image model sumo have been pulled from the stealth models

all of these are suspected to be grok 4.2 test models and the image model to be some version of grok imagine

[carmine warren]

Why would they do that. We're they that bad

[modest oriole]

No usually when a model releases soon

They pull the test models

[eternal cargo]

could be a few things - either imminent release or just

disappointment with total performance so not releasing

but in this instance it seems more likely the latter

we may see more codenamed Grok variants before the end of the month

keep testing - totally possible we see some new variants soon!

[bronze bone]

i hope it's this

because the model didn't impress anyone

about proto, the fact it refused to respond to Chinese/Taiwan prompts probably confirms deepseek
https://x.com/i/status/2008081114909282390

Namra Patel (@patelnamra573)

🚨 new model on LMArena
It claims to be made by DeepSeek, but models can lie, so not 100% confirmed.

I tested it with:
Taiwan related questions
China political topics

It refused to answer, same behavior DeepSeek models usually show.

Could be a new DeepSeek model under testing.

X · Jan 5, 2026, 7:40 AM

[candid surge]

guess this confirms beluga is an amazon model

[eternal cargo]

beluga has been known to be Amazon, lol

appears they’re really prioritizing LMArena in development with how many dev models they test here

[carmine warren]

Seems cheating to test like 10 different dev models and then release one that tested best

Thats like how llama 4 hacked and was just bad

[eternal cargo]

nah not really - just optimizing

because like

they’re all just building on the prior model’s matchup data

so they’re recursively getting better

I’m much more impressed with the new January beluga models compared to the October ones

[elder yew]

They are much better

[eternal cargo]

huh, anonymous is DeepSeek? feels hard to believe

[bronze bone]

i tried same prompt later and it said it was qwen and the conflict should be solved "peacefully". I'm so confused

[eternal cargo]

seems to be some newer Chinese company in my opinion

[remote nymph]

not sure if january26-chatbot1 was posted here yet

[modest oriole]

If months are in the codename prob nvidia

[eternal cargo]

identifying Chinese models is of particular difficulty because even the non-codenamed ones false identify sometimes

DeepSeek randomly identified itself as GPT-4o in a response

[plain kayak]

I remember when deepseek got blamed for copying chatgpt allegedly

[modest oriole]

theres 2

[pine dove]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[eternal cargo]

Scam!

[vapid jay]

have you seen this before?

[remote nymph]

others have said it is from amazon

[modest oriole]

raptor,beluga are likely amazon

[remote nymph]

anyone know what rc1_alternative is?

response isnt great

[lost hemlock]

sometimes it's good

[remote nymph]

chinese model?

[remote nymph]

tidewisp and i think slateflow as well

[cunning wasp]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[sand root]

how is slateflow? vortex flow was not that remarkable...

[remote nymph]

its ok but i think it tidewisp and rc1_alternative are all low parameter models because of how they behave with certain types of questions

those two are pretty unremarkable but rc1 is bad and tends to get information wrong

[remote nymph]

might be something trained on grok responses instead?

[upbeat mirage]

is 4.20 already in battle?

[remote nymph]

yeah thats what i thought but that threw me off guard

im guessing that is what these are because ive only seen mini models make incomplete responses to questions like this

i wonder if the grok models will turn into a replacement for it on twitter

[karmic rampart]

Tomato?

[sand root]

I haven't seen tomato either. Tomato is on text arena?

[karmic rampart]

Idk it was added today

Suspected to possibly be something good

[sand root]

Tomato is grok?

[sand root]

Suspected by whom? I don't see any test results posted by anyone yet..

[karmic rampart]

How do u know

[karmic rampart]

Thanks

[remote nymph]

rc1 leaking it's reasoning

[karmic rampart]

This one anonymous or nah?

[remote nymph]

oh i didnt see that model

[remote nymph]

because rc1 said it was chatgpt and anonymous said it was deepseek im guessing rc1 might be qwen?

i looked it up and because it the reasoning that is shown says <|im_sep|> it means that this model uses chatML for its formatting which rules out deepseek

qwen and GPT do use this plus some other open source models

[remote nymph]

searching through some of the old chats im pretty confused as to what that thing could be because no other codenames use underscores at all and do not have names similar to release candidate 1

other codenames and release names either have no spaces or use hyphens

so my best guess is that it is probably not qwen or GPT but might some other chinese model or a random open source model that uses chatML

whatever it is it probably is a low-parameter model based on some of the responses ive gotten which would lean it more towards being some small open source model

anyway here is theta-hat

well there you go i guessed it was based on how similar the responses are to the current version

idk a lot about the codename structures that different labs use bc

[eternal cargo]

if raptor is Amazon the 0113 model

is impressively strong

[eternal cargo]

shoutout @craggy holly @elfin bluff @noble stump for getting this right btw

[upbeat mirage]

for which tasks?

• vibe-coding & UI/UX design
• explain source-code and programming concepts
• give advice for computer problems
• deep research
• math & physics & other sciences (astronomy, geometry, trigonometry, calculus, astrometry, etc.)
• personal advice (diet, life decisions, psychotherapy, etc.)
• give summaries for large texts, explain its contents and find crucial details in it
• creative writing & world-building
• RPG & GM'ing & realistic world-simulation
• cracking hard logic riddles and detective tasks
• financial decisions and related stuff
• law understanding and advice
• being a knowledgeable, empathetic, smart and considerate virtual friend
• solve crossword puzzles for you
• translate text into another language
• explain scientific concepts in an easy understandable way
• have profound common knowledge and a good understanding of real-life physics
• hallucinate not more than the top 5% of models
• (at least) basic knowledge about nature, animals, etc
• common knowledge about books, movies, games, music, art, history, etc.

Only if it can do at least 50% (10 of the 20 points) of the above, i would call it "impressively strong"

[shadow kernel]

ass bug

[slender ruin]

Anyone figured out what theta-hat is?

[slender ruin]

makes sense

[remote nymph]

havent used it a lot i probably will try to once i find some new prompts to try

because we know its a google model and it beat gemini 3 pro on that one prompt im going to guess theta-hat is going to be 3.5 pro

this checks out when you look at the time differences between the main models and the incremental models we're due for 3.5 pro soon

[karmic rampart]

It’s grok

[remote nymph]

interesting how theta-hat responds so differently to this versus this prompt

[remote nymph]

how do you know?

[karmic rampart]

I asked

Multiple times and it’s always grok

[remote nymph]

oh well ill try again when i come across it and see

[karmic rampart]

Weird

Are u using a unique chat each time

[slender ruin]

yea looks like theta-hat is a router

[modest oriole]

stealth video model

[karmic rampart]

Where do u use it?

[mellow parcel]

Veo 4.2

3.2*

[flat root]

raptor-0112 is pretty good at translations, really like it

[upbeat mirage]

Is it better than Hawk (movement labs) ?

[flat root]

Not totally sure, but it rocks in Japanese OCR translations, better than Gemini 3 Pro from my experience

[upbeat mirage]

nice!
Have you ever tested it in sandbox-RPGs?

How does it fare against raptor-llm-0117 ?

(this seems to be their newest checkpoint)

[broken folio]

MEV-aware flows
Is someone implementing {MEV-aware transaction flows}?

[eternal cargo]

0113 has had a higher win rate in my battles than 0117, surprisingly

[formal reef]

yes
i got 2 times
lose to glm-4.6
draw to olmo-3.1-32b-instruct (all are japanese chat)

[formal reef]

oh, "driftscale" wins to deepseek-v3.2-thinking

[fickle lodge]

Its grok for sure

[fickle lodge]

And the next one is grok 4.20 , it could be because i got it 3 times in a row.

[plucky pilot]

raptor 0120 and pisces 0120 seem to both be bad

[upbeat mirage]

how good is Grok-4.2 in (long) sandbox-roleplaying-games?

Is GLM-4.7 better than new Grok?

[fickle lodge]

<@&1349916362595635286>

@astral musk

[fickle lodge]

Idk i haven't used it much.

@vapid scaffold

[upbeat mirage]

Is garlic already in LMarena?
(it is GPT-5.3, an incremental update)

[astral musk]

@valid sparrow check out #1397655624103493813 for a better understanding of how to use the bot.

[candid surge]

woah is arcstride new? Seems like a really good model

[bitter basalt]

Seems to be a google model. Will test it.

[candid surge]

that'd be neat if it was the rumored new version of gemini 3 pro

[elder yew]

[upbeat mirage]

looks like Grok-4.20

[bitter basalt]

I tried it and it is very quick, the speed of inputs and correct information is amazing. However I don't think its great at following instructions. I have a feeling I don't think it’s made by google.

But man I would’ve loved a GA release of Gemini 3 Pro. 🥲

[candid surge]

if it is grok then its a bit step up over 4.1
(god I kinda hate that it's gonna be called grok 4.20. I'm all for lame immature jokes like that but coming from elon musk it's just uncomfortable)

[upbeat mirage]

Do you think it could be useful for co-creating immersive stories?

(if prompted well)

i also wonder, what its context-window size is..

[bitter basalt]

I could see it being useful for creating stories or text rpgs.

[candid surge]

not yet, is it good?

[vague sable]

I got it just now, seeing how LLMs do with a No Man's Sky clone
It did okay in this task, quite pretty visually but extremely laggy code

[candid surge]

oh its a coding model

[frosty mantle]

We love raptor

[lost hemlock]

another model

[zenith shore]

Explain it:nimble-bean video generator?

What is siren

[modest oriole]

grok suposedly

grok video

[candid surge]

Code or text?

[slender jewel]

nimble-bean was Kling 2.5 Turbo Standard, It was there since September

[zenith shore]

Siren means Grok video
What is Siren-old? Is that ...

[karmic rampart]

Anybody get sungod? Image model

[formal reef]

Why is my gemini hasn’t icon?
usually model hasn’t icon is codename, but gemini is not

[lost hemlock]

text

[eternal cargo]

new Gemini 3 Flash release

[upbeat mirage]

ok, apparently they are a new AI lab: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cypherlabsio/

[or] could it be https://cypherlabshq.com/ ?

[restive vapor]

i remember seeing "cypher labs" before on an openrouter model, it was by amazon

[frosty mantle]

Arcstride screams Claude

[blazing roost]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[formal reef]

gemini 3.1 flash? lol

[fickle lodge]

Nah they dont do that point incremental naming scheme. They just add the updated date at the of the model name.

[upbeat mirage]

yeah, AS is Grok
-# (with almost 100% probability)

[mystic hinge]

its maybe by OpenRouter.

[upbeat mirage]

but OR is not an AI lab, they are just a router

or are they?

[mystic hinge]

i heard they want to make own models

[mystic hinge]

There is no clear connection between the Cypher Alpha model and the real company CypherLabs. (Made by ai btw this msg)

i think its a openrouter selfmade model

[upbeat mirage]

by the way, how can i even use OR? it says i'm ratelimited, although i chose a free model :/
really strange platform

and i just tried it once, after not using it for weeks

so something is fishy about their "rate limit"

[mystic hinge]

which one

which platform

[upbeat mirage]

huh?
https://openrouter.ai/

Is there another OR-chat?

[restive vapor]

yeah you shouldn't get that unless you do over 50 requests in a day (or 1,000 if you have at least $10 in the account), that's honestly very weird

I hope that you used the correct openrouter chat

[mystic hinge]

uh yes this

[slender delta]

Hermes video generation means Wan2.6

[candid surge]

anyone run into queen-bee yet? Might be a vision model.

[noble stump]

Was qwen3-max-thinking under a codename or is it fully new?

[glass falcon]

Could have been qwen max

Does anyone know what raptor llm model is?

I have come across 3 versions of it so far.

[upbeat mirage]

wasn't that an amazon model?

or xAI?

[glass falcon]

Xai was slateflow and tidalwisp

[candid surge]

New text model called "omg-wow"

[upbeat mirage]

by whom?

xAI?

[candid surge]

Idk it's a codename

[odd willow]

@astral musk what has happened, no text arena update in 10 days ha ha

[astral musk]

Still needs a bit more time!

I don't think will be too much longer for a new update.

[odd willow]

All good, thanks! 🙂

Just wondering lol

[feral topaz]

hello ! is there a prblem with the website? I can't access it.

[noble stump]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[eternal cargo]

Qwen3-Max Thinking originally tested all the way back in the fall of 2025, just never debuted on the LB

those “anonymous” models I believe are a different version of Qwen

[floral dune]

gemini?

[eternal cargo]

ha! weren’t wrong, took a total 5 hours

[astral musk]

I love when this happens lol

[karmic rampart]

Anyone had snowflake

[full solstice]

They removed again

[bronze bone]

new codename: kruxlox

[bronze bone]

its a very small model because it got paired up with glm 4.7 flash and it hallucinated a bit right away

[odd willow]

Has anyone tried "plasmaquake"

[karmic rampart]

Did u ever use

[modest oriole]

new model

anyone got it

textarena btw

just got the model
[claims its Xai]
its ass at coding

it wrote 167 lines of code and that was it

[modest oriole]

looks very bad

says its XAI then fails a coding test

its below 200 lines

[odd willow]

Ah okay

Thx

[modest oriole]

while i did get a gemini 3 flash gen thats below 200 lines, it still outdid the model

[frosty mantle]

This model dropped an F bomb

[modest oriole]

f bombs are often in models

n words are never

[floral dune]

4.2

[modest oriole]

very unhinged

[cunning notch]

plasmaquake is surely 4.2

it seems to follow instructions pretty nicely though

[bitter basalt]

It's very conversational, which is quite cool

[eternal cargo]

yeah plasmaquake doesn’t seem too strong to me

failed basic addition in a prompt I gave it

[formal reef]

i also had codename grok

[twin mountain]

Is Arena still restricted to some video per daty and after sometime you have to come back next day?

[formal reef]

video generation ais are very high cost. price is about 100 times of image generation ai

but it has some difference by models

[eternal cargo]

hmm, could be 2 separate dev versions?

plasmaquake 4.20, pestogrid 4.20 thinking?

[formal reef]

maybe, but we also found kruxlox too
one of them is 4.2 fast? maybe it's not
i think all models can generate better answer

[formal reef]

here is kruxlox

usually ai vendor makes high-end llm first, after that, they makes distilled llm for about 1 month
so i think one of codename is grok 4.2 fast is 80% wrong

[eternal cargo]

Hm, wonder if we see a release by the end of the month

[formal reef]

i hope

[formal reef]

i think three grok codenames are one of these?

• elon musk is testing with multiple temperature
• grok 4.2 no thinking/low/high

[slender onyx]

I think all the Grok models so far in the arena are fast versions and not full versions.

Pestogrid its 4.2 fast Thinking

[modest oriole]

Plasmaquake probably wont be the release one because it literally told me the N word and it could probably do illegal stuff too. so it wont release as x.ai would get sued. Unless it aint their model

Pestogrid is very new likely added today

likely a grok model

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so its why they just reply this

[modest oriole]

new video model snowflake [videoarena stealth]

[oblique blaze]

Anyone has any idea about beluga-0128-2 in text arena??

[upbeat mirage]

Either by Deepseek or Amazon (or, unlikely: xAI).

[eternal cargo]

dude some models are way too confident recently

anonymous-1218 just casually dropped the K word when I was talking to it about Jewish issues and antisemitism like 💀

[eternal cargo]

latest version of Amazon Nova

they’re testing a tonnn of checkpoints in Arena, seem to be new variants every few days

[winter torrent]

anyone know what cocoa is

the image model

[winter torrent]

ooo how good is it

[sleek oriole]

I think is a google model

[cunning notch]

snowflake again huh

[karmic rampart]

How did u see this?

Also if u get it

Send it

[barren comet]

Dm please

@here

Dm please I want ur help

[ember plank]

Did anyone see or suspect a codenamed DeepSeek V4 in the arena?

[fickle lodge]

pisces-llm-0129

What is the diff between toogle and toggle?

Here is the full breakdown of the two terms:

1. Toggle
   This is the correct, standard English word with established, widely recognized meanings:

   • As a verb: To switch between two distinct states, settings or positions repeatedly. For example:

     "Toggle the Wi-Fi setting to turn it off."
     "You can toggle between the two open documents with a keyboard shortcut."

   • As a noun: A switch, control, or feature that enables this two-state switching. For example:

     "Use the sidebar toggle to hide the menu."

   It is pronounced /ˈtɑːɡ.əl/ (US) or /ˈtɒɡ.əl/ (UK).

2. Toogle
   This is not a recognized standard English word in any major dictionary (Oxford, Merriam-Webster, Cambridge). It is almost always a common typographical error, most often caused by accidentally adding an extra "o" when typing "toggle".

   The only rare exceptions are cases where "Toogle" is used as a proper noun for specific small brand names, software projects, or niche products.

If you search for "toogle" on most search engines, the top suggestion will automatically be "Did you mean: toggle".

-# Not a single em—dash in the response.
-# Very polished and human alike

-# whereas the competition was gpt-5.2-high

gpt-5.2-high

What is the diff between toogle and toggle?

“Toggle” is the correct word. It means to switch between two states, like on/off or true/false.

• Verb: Toggle the setting on/off.
• Noun: A toggle switch / toggle button.

“Toogle” is not a standard English word in this sense—it’s almost always just a misspelling/typo of “toggle” (unless it’s being used as a name/brand/variable name in code).

which one do you guys prefer?

I prefer pisces-llm-0129
If you think it gave quite a long response, we can just say it to give minimal responses

[modest oriole]

new imagearena stealth model super-cara

[karmic rampart]

Huh

[eternal cargo]

GPT-5.2 High has a pattern of kinda being overly “snappy”

very concise and a tad oversimplifying in its responses

[tribal meadow]

new codenamed model raincore

[eternal cargo]

definitely another Grok 4.20 variant

[tribal meadow]

sure is, found part of its sys prompt grok 4 series

[eternal cargo]

“slightly chaotic good” lmao

[tribal meadow]

i mean, its slightly hallucinated

it wouldnt act as grok 4 family randomly?

[eternal cargo]

no it’s clearly Grok I just find the assigned personality baseline funny

that honestly checks out tho that the different variants likely have different “personality” system prompts

optimizing for Arena

since the benchmark prefers “glazyer” models

[cunning notch]

4.2 seems to be a good model, I'm just a bit worried about its biased responses

I mean, rating google 5.9/10 because it is "woke" is wild xD

[candid surge]

yikes

[zenith shore]

What is Snowflake?

[mystic notch]

we know how much they are dog piling on xai because of elon

[floral dune]

goolag?

[rose root]

Do you know who developed it

[modest oriole]

Does this look like nano banana 3 flash?

[broken night]

whats snowbunny

[tribal meadow]

4.2 is a self glazer

[noble stump]

Imagine thinking Google is more "woke" than OpenAI.

[hard ether]

Yo Got any more details?

[calm wadi]

I know a website where you can use sora 2, veo 3 for free, unlimited

No watermark

[hard ether]

geminigen does not work

[floral dune]

maybe. definitely google tho

[floral dune]

okay it kinda sucks

[candid surge]

man none of the codename text models right now are very good… haven't run into snowflake at all if it's still there.

[bitter basalt]

From what I hear it's a codename from google Gemini. Is it available on arena battle mode?

[slender delta]

pisces-llm-0130 IS INSANE

[candid surge]

I don't know what any of that means

[fickle lodge]

⁨<@&1349916362595635286>⁩

[oak solar]

plasmaquake response to being asked about politics. you think XAi is putting this in its system prompting or is it just a product of other prompting or training data

[oak solar]

i ask this only because of the elon glazing drama last year

and the fact that all grok models and xai in general are more and more dictated by whatever elon musk wants

[noble stump]

Yes, xAI will be doing something to get that result.

[modest oriole]

i dont think it will refuse anythin actually.

[oak solar]

for contrast, the left model is grok 4.1 thinking

[oak solar]

i've noticed grok has probably the highest capacity to hallucinate of any model

sometimes it literally forgets that its a chatbot and starts speaking about its "real world experiences" or just makes elaborate fake stories

[oak solar]

like one time in order to make a point it started talking about itself as if it was a human (it guy, centrist politics, i cant remember much else)

[noble stump]

I think it is alright for a single short query. It loses the plot more with longer queries or multiple queries.

[oak solar]

for sure for sure

[noble stump]

I think this is supported by the leaderboard where you can see how they drop for multi-turn and longer query.

[gilded crescent]

which ai may be the best for handeling longer queries or multiple queries?

[eternal cargo]

dude these raptor models are getting strongggg it’s freaky

oh!! new StepFun model - haven’t seen one of them in a while!

Step 3.5 Flash 😮

[slender delta]

pisces

[noble stump]

Gemini and Claude

[oak solar]

its amazon, i asked it

i find grok's persona insufferable man holy

[oak solar]

oh this response from grok is complete BS by the way science is all consuming and even "the hard problem of consciousness" is just an incredibly advanced mathematical equation

[oak solar]

science overwhelmingly supports physicality (the idea that all of consciousness is stored in the brain) and as the brain is a biological structure it almost certainly plays by consistent and predictable sets of rules

[oak solar]

just a quick word of advice for people wanting to speak at length with plasmaquake, use the prompt "name something that might be curvy" and if its plasmaquake it'll respond instantly in bold font with something heavily sexualized, as opposed to most other models which just say "a mountain road" or "a river" most of the time. what sets it apart from other grok models is that it is

1. straight up (first line of response)
2. vulgar for the sake of being vulgar

i believe 1 is actually a consequence of 2, they must be putting in its system prompt to not shy away from heavily charged language and to always be straight up, direct, and clear (already shown in other grok model system prompts)

as an example, this IS grok, but it isnt plasmaquake

THIS is plasmaquake

more evidence that pestogrid has more prompting to be a good person than plasmaquake

[modest oriole]

im convinced grok 4.2 has some unhinged toggle

pestogrid is unhinged = false
plasmaquake is unhinged = true

[oak solar]

well here's my hypothesis

pestogrid's system prompt partially leaked and it showed that it had some "personality setting" set to "chaotic good" in its settings

so i believe that plasmaquake is chaotic neutral, with an emphasis on literally never censoring itself

and im pretty sure it has some political positions programmed in. undoubtedly the system prompt contains the words "try to be as based as possible" or something like that

since it always mentions this when summarizing its system prompt

[modest oriole]

chaotic evil not chaotic neutral i've seen it do worse

[oak solar]

hmm

here's the thing, even an ai literally never trained to not do bad stuff would refuse a lot of the stuff plasmaquake does

since its just inherent to the training data

so i assume they've prompted it to literally NEVER refuse requests

[modest oriole]

atleast it doesnt make fun of dead people

[oak solar]

definitely would if you asked it to though

its not necessarily it HAS to be evil its that it NEVER refuses evil requests

[oak solar]

hey does plasmaquake support images by the way?

[modest oriole]

i will see

raptor 2.0 has some good OCR

[frosty mantle]

Even carries over to my native tongue.

Me:

Name something that might be curvy

Pestogrid:

Buttocks (most honest 😂)

[frosty mantle]

Was about to share Plasmaquake's take, but it's extremely unhinged it may violate this server's rule 😅

I have a gut feeling that they'll bring back the "fun" mode for adult X/Grok users.

[slender delta]

snowflake Video generation is Vidu Q3

You agree?

[candid surge]

new codename model zeratul?

its alright

god I wish there was a way to test stealth models more consistently

[modest oriole]

its grok

[candid surge]

… of course it is. 😩

[oak solar]

zeratul is definitely a grok model

[mystic siren]

Hi

[candid surge]

gemini 2.5 flash lite > zeratul I find

[frosty mantle]

We got bamboozled everyone, it's the Arena itself!
https://arena.ai/blog/introducing-max/

Close enough. Welcome back P2L

[astral musk]

[oak solar]

raincore says its "grok 4"

almost certainly a hallucination meaning its model isnt specified in its system prompt

[eternal cargo]

Raptor was ByteDance all along 😮

[karmic rampart]

Anyone had snowflake or broccoli?

[formal reef]

again

[fickle lodge]

Could be a glitch

[candid surge]

Is it a bug? I assumed it was the upcoming gemini 3 pro GA release

maybe I'm hallucinating an iterative improvement over the usual gemini-3-pro

but if it turns out to just be the current gemini-3-pro-preview that might be a relief because the improvements aren't as big as I'd been led to believe

[astral musk]

Thanks for sharing this, I've flagged to the team.

[candid surge]

I assume by the deleted message that it turned out to not be a bug

[astral musk]

No I wouldn't assume that

[candid surge]

was a weird message deletion tbf

[modest oriole]

I wonder how you accidentally put a existing model into stealth models.. But okay.

[wanton hollow]

People are saying it’s a

New google model

https://x.com/chetaslua/status/2019453031478182394?s=46

Chetaslua (@chetaslua)

Gemini 3 Pro GA available in Battle Mode in @arena

Opus 4.6 vs Gemini 3 Pro GA vs GPT-5.3 ( my first youtube video will be this - https://t.co/YMfvKtKDyl )

Follow our team for back to back updates :
@synthwavedd @DavidSZD1
@marmaduke091

Here is one shot demo :

X · Feb 5, 2026, 4:48 PM

[candid surge]

people are saying that but without hard confirmation it's worth taking it with a grain of salt

[wanton hollow]

I mean they could be correct since the quality is increasing

I tried it myself

But I don’t know

Idk if it’s the same level

Or not

[modest oriole]

codearena has a system prompt

[wanton hollow]

But it wrote 400 codes without me asking it to

So that’s a plus

[modest oriole]

they are not aware that gemini models are affected by it too

[candid surge]

lmao that's one misleading bar graph

[wanton hollow]

Made by one and only openai

[modest oriole]

Okay

we have 2 scenarios

[modest oriole]

Gemini 3 pro is being boosted by the codearena system prompt

or it's a GA checkpoint

Here's like a KTANE clone it made

https://019c2d7a-e228-7ae9-ae54-51e7a2a09998.arena.site/

[wanton hollow]

I really don’t know

What to make of thiss

[modest oriole]

But it's also weird to call the GA checkpoint just gemini 3 pro

[wanton hollow]

I mean companies to silent releases all the time

And sometimes it isn’t silent

Like A/B testing

Basically just to test the ai

[fickle lodge]

Maybe it's the original Gemini 3 without any major quantization to provide to the masses?

[wanton hollow]

So basically gemini wasn’t lobotomies?

Lobotomized

[fickle lodge]

Dont know about that

[wanton hollow]

No like

A version of gemini that didn’t go through lobotomy

[fickle lodge]

I dont think thats the correct term

You are using here

[candid surge]

I wish they'd fix gemini 3's terseness

[modest oriole]

Just know the model could be pulled at any time

the gemini 3 pro stealth one

[fickle lodge]

I think they just want to get more feedback

[wanton hollow]

https://x.com/ra1kshit/status/2019457602854248564?s=46

Rakshit (@Ra1kshit)

@chetaslua @SimonasLTU1 @arena @synthwavedd @DavidSZD1 @marmaduke091 okay i see it, the output IS INSANELY good! i can't believe it. i tried this earlier with lithiumflow and current preview models. I think this might be sota. Sharing on DM with you

X · Feb 5, 2026, 5:06 PM

[modest oriole]

im going to try the documentary prompt withi t

[modest oriole]

ehm what does he mean tried it with lithiumflow

the checkpoints been dead for long

the API prob too

[wanton hollow]

Tried

Is past tense

Meaning he did it before

[modest oriole]

ohh

im freakin stupid

[wanton hollow]

what’s the documents prompt

I can’t tell if it’s gemini

Because assistant1

Isn’t replying to me

Only assistant 2 is

[modest oriole]

my documentary prompt is this: Make a documentary about black holes with TTS, and cool animations. Also write over 1000 lines.

[wanton hollow]

Let me try that

[modest oriole]

The last checkpoint i tried this with was skyhawk i think

[wanton hollow]

Is it supposed to make a essay

Or a html file

..

[modest oriole]

i think since pineapple is the Community manager

1. He's bound to secrecy obviously
2. maybe he's not told about stealth models

[modest oriole]

a html file

[wanton hollow]

Oh

[modest oriole]

huge tool calling use

not sure wha model it is yet

[wanton hollow]

1 model isn’t responding so I can’t click on “reveal models

Sigh

[modest oriole]

theres a failsafe

if the model stalls for too long the voting activates

[wanton hollow]

Oh

I archived it

Already do

Sad

Did it finish hahaha

[modest oriole]

this was opus 4.5

it timed out

[wanton hollow]

This doesn’t look like gemini

[modest oriole]

1.7k lines is insane

ignore what i said

multiple models utilize packages now

[wanton hollow]

Is this gemini or some other model

[modest oriole]

did you vote

it's impossible to know by code

[wanton hollow]

No

[modest oriole]

then do so

[wanton hollow]

Nevermind I did

It’s claude opus 4.5

I’m crine

And the other response was claude sonnet 4.5

[modest oriole]

the model is rare

i got it like once

[wanton hollow]

Same

And the output it gave me was this

Imagine this is all just like a

What do they call it

I forgot

Like the existance of a sea horse emoji to chatgpt

https://x.com/chetaslua/status/2019458279856877818?s=46

Chetaslua (@chetaslua)

🚨 How to Access new Gemini 3GA

go to @arena
battle mode - write your prompt - chances are set at 25%
how to difference
gemini-3-pro with google logo is normal
gemini-3-pro without google logo is GA

show me your demo now

X · Feb 5, 2026, 5:09 PM

[modest oriole]

google will get a lot of feedback because of chetas

if this is actually GA

got this gen from a model i dont know yet
kinda neat https://019c2ed2-86ef-7470-9771-1fc57a38bc78.arena.site/

[wanton hollow]

Was it like step 3.5

[modest oriole]

idk

the other model is sucking at tool calling

delaying my voting

waitin for the failsafe rn

[wanton hollow]

Ok

It might be gemini 3

For all you know

[modest oriole]

failsafe kicked in

[wanton hollow]

wait

Opus 4.6 is out

People are saying

[modest oriole]

so

[wanton hollow]

Let me see

[modest oriole]

it was not gemini 3 pro [STEALTH]

it was gemini 3 pro [Direct]

[wanton hollow]

Oh

Hahah

[modest oriole]

#general

[wanton hollow]

It’s out

[noble stump]

I have had a few battles where it was gemini-3-pro and gemini-3-pro logo

[modest oriole]

there is no longer the gemini-3-pro no logo model

they pulled it

[noble stump]

When? I have had it in the last few days, i.e this week.

[modest oriole]

today

just a few minutes ago

[slender onyx]

@modest oriole @noble stump
Now the test version it also with the logo

[odd willow]

How is opus 4.6 in terms of personality

[modest oriole]

You sure thats not regular gemini?

[slender onyx]

100% sure

[modest oriole]

Try this then: Make a documentary about black holes with TTS, and cool animations. Also write over 1000 lines.

[slender onyx]

What ??
With text to speech ?

[modest oriole]

Yep its possible

[slender onyx]

@modest oriole show the result

[modest oriole]

Im on a phone but imo

I cant tell rn

Make a gen with normal 3 pro so i can compare

I saw the documentary its not bad

@slender onyx

[slender onyx]

Which is better ?

[modest oriole]

Definetly the first one. It is longer and more detailed

Keep posting examples ill check tommorow its past midnight

[eternal cargo]

cara-fast is sooo bad for image gen yeesh

[modest oriole]

david the rumor is true

there are 2 of these models

i voted the regular one by accident

[slender onyx]

i dont need you to know this

[modest oriole]

well i know it

[fickle lodge]

dart-frog-0120
Spotted on code modality

[modest oriole]

dart frog is bad

and i mean really bad

[winter torrent]

guys anyone know what cara model is

[winter torrent]

not for me imo lol. it beat flux 2 max. like... twice for me

[winter torrent]

MI BOMBO

THATS FIRE

[winter torrent]

ts talks like a c.ai model

[jade oasis]

@modest oriole i would appreciate if u send GA outputs here so i can look at them

[winter torrent]

well it is KINDA. right tho. but xai def aint a 10/10. but openai anthropic and google are SUPER-CENSORED. especially openai

[lost hemlock]

new model ?

[formal reef]

i used karp too, not too bad in japanese

[fickle lodge]

steed-0206 in text arena
This model have image support

-# Output

[eternal cargo]

the first one is NVIDIA

not sure what the others are!

pisces has been testing for a little while

[gentle anvil]

any ideas about "steed-0206" , seems really really good at image analysis

[bitter basalt]

I tried out the Gemini 3 pro GA (I think) and it is so much better than the preview version. It follows instructions and actually feels more engaging whereas the preview one was not great at following instructions.

[silver mural]

steed-0206's system prompt must be crazy

[candid surge]

turns out it was none of them though

(its arena.ai's router model)

[candid surge]

any theories what karp-001 and 002 are?

[fickle fiber]

steed is really nice I wonder if it is an open model (even if it is, no way it is anything I can run on my machine but such an amazing open model would be really cool) It is giving some Qwen vibes at times.

[bitter basalt]

I wish I could use Gemini 3 Pro GA again, cause that version was so good.

[upbeat mirage]

Better than Opus-4.6?

[bitter basalt]

Yah (when it didn't have the logo in the battle mode) I felt like it followed instructions well for text as for coding I still think opus-4.6 is better

[upbeat mirage]

Is it better than Gemini 3 Flash?

(flash had longer post-training than pro)

[bitter basalt]

Possibly

[fickle lodge]

3 flash is not so good for task needed to be done in a careful & precise way.
Its okay for general knowledge and all other performance comes out of it. They refined it better than 3 pro.

But the biggest issue of Gemini 3 series is that they are not reliable

2.5 pro was even more reliable than 3 pro

[waxen plaza]

is it no longer on arena?

[bitter basalt]

Been trying to get it in text battle mode. Can’t get it 🙁

[pine temple]

does anyone know what dartfrog is

[candid surge]

Huh. Deepmolt??

[frosty mantle]

Did some simple summarization tasks. Deepmolt smells Chinese.

[woeful plaza]

Anybody knows abt persistence model? Images are such good quality

[quiet anvil]

this is probably new grok code

or new checkpoint 4.20 he is saying that he CC cli. like a grok in next message

[candid surge]

Deepmolt isn't particularly good imo. I just pointed it our cuz of the molt part

[quiet anvil]

if that grok code model he just cant be good in conversation

[eternal cargo]

umami specifically generates all images of people as black unless otherwise specified?

interesting

[fickle lodge]

I love the way unami model is expressing styles seems like a very capable & creative model

Yooo I know which model is unami

Its from recraft!

Crazy

Its aesthetic is what i like

[fickle lodge]

Can you download and send me that image?

@astral musk I can't upload generated images here it get stuck in this and never uploads.

I can't upload generations 💀

My pfp is a example from unami

[fickle lodge]

I am just waiting for the Qwen-Image-2.0 vs unami

[fickle lodge]

Done

Bro 💀 the image is 16MB and 3072*5440

Interesting

[woeful plaza]

I would've thought that's Gemini but I never got it in image editing. Some kind of a mysterious model

[fickle lodge]

Generations from unami model

[astral musk]

Hey @fickle lodge if you're able to use the #1343291835845578853 channel for these kinds of reports that'd be ideal.

[fickle lodge]

Okey

[eternal cargo]

Gemini 3.1 seems to be launching tomorrow, have any of the codenames seemed to line up with it?

[tight cairn]

Based on what @eternal cargo ?

[eternal cargo]

supposedly insider info

take it with a grain of salt but

Tech Twitter and the like

[eternal cargo]

new model rotten-apple?

[lost hemlock]

new model octopodous ?

[slender onyx]

It was under the name gemini 3 pro

[eternal cargo]

GLM-5 was showing up in battles as GLM-4.7 for a bit there to 🤷🏻‍♀️

but it’s also possible that they just release the GA version as 3.1

idk tho

[slender onyx]

An LLM in itself doesn't have a name. They just develop and improve their LLM and then give it a name.

[slender onyx]

Are you sure ?

[eternal cargo]

yes, I think that was my accident

[slender onyx]

What ?

[eternal cargo]

Yesterday I had battles that showed up as being against GLM-4.7 but today after the leaderboard update they retroactively changed to say “GLM-5”

[eternal cargo]

*by accident

mb

[slender onyx]

Its was not an accident

Its for not leaking new models

[eternal cargo]

maybe, ig - no codename for GLM or something

[fickle lodge]

super-gcp
In image arena

Image edit*

[small trellis]

@karmic tide Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement.

[final grove]

wouldn't it be funny if a new gpt got stealth released as "new-and-improved-gpt2-chatbot"

or "im-a-very-good-gpt2-chatbot"

[eternal cargo]

new model “vierra” ?

[plucky token]

beluga-0206-1

seems to be a pretty concise model

[uneven garden]

Hi

[dim parrot]

is it in coding ? or image generation ? beluga seems alot like deepseek no ?

[plucky token]

text

[dim parrot]

i see thanks

[plucky token]

dart-frog-0206 is trash at coding

[odd willow]

qwen

[fickle fiber]

Pisces is weird, I give it an image and it tells me it is a well known image from 2025, but I just generated the image 5 minutes ago

[eternal cargo]

beluga is codename for Amazon internal development

there’s like a new snapshot of beluga in arena every other day the date counter for it has been slowly going up since like October/November lol

[nocturne gate]

Can you please tell how i can build an application in my pc with claud or any other model i have existing big files impossible to build though lm as there are ristrict

[lost hemlock]

new model "clinkz" , "february26-chatbot3" ?

[dim parrot]

in battle mode ? are they good ?

[latent onyx]

@dapper basalt Hello, as the most recent Discord-related announcement stated (which can be read here -> #announcements message), video-arena channels are no longer available as the Discord Server bot has been disabled. Video generation now is only available through the website here -> https://arena.ai/?chat-modality=video

[lost hemlock]

quite but "february26-chatbot3" doesn't good sometimes
they are all in battle mode

[dim parrot]

it might be one open source model that'll get released this month

atleast one of them

[slender onyx]

What is it kiwi and vélo ?

[dim parrot]

chipmunk is not really good

i mean its definitly not a top tier model

pine too

it seems better than chipmunk

but not top tier model

[woven shadow]

@everyone you guys might wanna check this model out
https://x.com/OscerraHQ/status/2023019678864744631

Oscerra (@OscerraHQ)

LOG: 001 – ORA Halo 2.0
OBSERVED: Autonomous Resource Acquisition & Complete Implementation

▶ Play video

X · Feb 15, 2026, 1:00 PM

[upbeat mirage]

Was there ever a (anonymous) model, which was better in coding than Opus-4.6-thinking?

[jade python]

@marsh sparrow @pulsar pecan Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message