nano-banana

[proper bronze]

"Draw them all hanging out and having a good time"

[drowsy notch]

How to get acces to nano bnana

[forest yacht]

go on https://lmarena.ai and select the image button, put in your prompt and see if you get nano-banana

[forest yacht]

you may have to do it a few times before it shows up, especially if you are not uploading an input image and are just doing text-to-image

it is a stealth model, so it can not be manually selected

[humble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-американскийпсихопат-кристианбейл-american-psychopath-christian-bale-gif-17867735

[late thorn]

?

[stiff charm]

i can't see that

[humble verge]

LMAO

Is that your ss or you saw it somewhere on Twitter ?

[drowsy notch]

Can anyone tell how to genrate. Video in 9:16. With veo 3 model

[late thorn]

I refreshed the page and it disappeared, strange. Could that be the final model’s name? Musa is the scientific name for banana.

[frigid musk]

you gotta cut the center out of a 16x9 video

[drowsy notch]

If i get one genration so. How i can keep genraying with nano banana

[drowsy notch]

Not like that i nees to genrate

I have student pro model

[lost meteor]

So, Google is behind Nano Banana 🤌

[drowsy notch]

Can anyone tell

Plz tell how to keep genrating with nano bnana

[humble verge]

Just keep trying it's luck

There is no way to guarantee it

It's designed that way

[drowsy notch]

Ok

But in single mode we can slect

[lost meteor]

Then try

[drowsy notch]

But nano bnana not availabe on single mode

[proper bronze]

had to feed this back to nano banana for an edit cuz it generated a weird stone head at first

[stiff charm]

its creepy tho

[proper bronze]

not really…???? what???? its so tame?????????

I mean, besides the bullying

[stiff charm]

yea kinda normal bullying right... just.... tossing someone's head

[proper bronze]

shes a dullahan her head ain't attached

[stiff charm]

and like is it a web comic frame?

or just for fun

[proper bronze]

just for fun

[stiff charm]

cool... ig

[proper bronze]

POV you meet a cute girl and she already wants to take you to the altar

[stiff charm]

woo image quality is insane

[proper bronze]

the architecture doesnt quite make sense though ehe

[sterile tapir]

LOL

[humble verge]

it's designed like that on purpose, it's not a glitch

[oak zealot]

A spooky-cute digital illustration of an adorable fluffy black kitten with oversized, neon-glowing emerald green eyes. The kitten is depicted with small, sharp claws, red devil horns that curve playfully, delicate bat wings, and a vibrant red tail tipped with a black arrow. It sits perched upon a cracked hellstone platform, adorned with a small patch of red, armor-like fur on its chest, while an ethereal, swirling purple mist fills the space around it. The entire scene is isolated on a deep black background, ensuring transparency and ideal suitability for a T-shirt design, emphasizing the phrase "Cuteness is Hell".

[proper bronze]

gravy boat

[stiff charm]

not here bro...

[stiff charm]

is it true.. 3 sep

[proper bronze]

the day before silksong

[stiff charm]

yea was thinking the same

[stiff charm]

ok... ok.... we got that

those look nice.....

[proper bronze]

sakura tree dryad ninja

woah what flux kontext pro did a better job this time

[cloud wolf]

anything new to get more banana models?

[lusty wind]

All the fun I've had, have been with nano banana image editing

The model makes it look so easy

[naive marten]

this is interesting - this confirms that it's a gemini derivative, not just a one off for pixel phones or whatever

[humble verge]

Hey, I have been trying to reach out to you to report an issue with the banana model on LMArena, could you help me ?

[naive marten]

it's always better to state your problem to everyone than to ask a random person for help

[humble verge]

I know, but you're a Moderator, not some random, that's why I specificially tried to contact you. So normally for other models, if the output has an issue, they would still appear and show error, like in the screenshot attached below. But for nano-banana, this model would simply not appear at all. This gives off the confusion that the model is taken down or disappeared from the site, when it could have just showed up and gave us error indication like this.

So I was wondering is this behavior an unexpected bug, or intentional design ?

[naive marten]

i don't think any of the moderators here actually work on the site, and i have the weakest connection to lm arena since i wasn't hired for this

[humble verge]

Oh, sorry, I just assumed the Moderators and the Developers are same, because normally I only see just Mods and normal Online users in the right tab

So who can I contact to report this issue ?

[naive marten]

are you sure it's an issue

"if the model isn't available it isn't chosen in battles" sounds rather normal to me

[drowsy notch]

Its like lottery

[humble verge]

But the model is available, it's just that when it should have showed error output, it simply does not even show up at all, unlike all the other models that actually showed error

I have tested this many times to be sure it's not luck, but a repeated pattern/ behavior

This has confused many users into thinking the model is "down"

[naive marten]

is that to say that you chose it and it doesn't show (not sure if that's even possible), or that it was randomly chosen while battling then shows then disappears?

[humble verge]

Not just me

[drowsy notch]

If you have that model you can build whole story not even story make full documenty animate movie

[humble verge]

This isn't direct chat, this is in Battle, specifically the nano-banana model

[naive marten]

okay, so the model shows then disappears?

[humble verge]

No, what I mean is that:

Normally, for all other models, when the output encounters an issue, it should still show up, whether on the left or right, to display warning like in the screenshot below, right ?

But, for nano-banana, the model will simply never show up at all, if the output supposedly encounters an error. Instead, it will be always other models appearing. This is how me and some other users here, sometimes didn't get nano-banana like 50 to 70 times in a row, never encountered once.

It's not luck, it's a pattern/ behavior that I only noticed after many tries.

[naive marten]

how would it "encounter an error" if it didn't show up

it sounds like nano banana just isn't chosen in battles, and that doesn't sound like a bug in itself

[humble verge]

But it happens when for example the input contains keywords that 🍌 model filtered, its censorship is stricter.

When I use a certain input, the banana would not appear for like 50 tries in a row.

I switch to a safe testing prompt, and it would appear at frequent rate again.

Then I switch back to the prompt earlier that may trigger the model's censorship, and the model would permanently never show up again. It's a pattern

[rocky hamlet]

imagine nano banana replying with text content to the input prompt lol

[naive marten]

ok that sounds like good behavior

no need to invalidate a battle, prevent a vote, upset users, etc by showing "ruh roh this model can't handle this" instead of just choosing models that will comply ahead of time

[humble verge]

Good behavior is still showing up and display error like this to make everything clear, since different models have different limits to what they accept

[naive marten]

no?

[humble verge]

some models will accept this input, but not other input, and vice versa

[humble verge]

Why not ?

[naive marten]

why should a model that doesn't want to take the input be forced to take the input and error out

[humble verge]

but how would it know it doesn't want to take the input, to make the decision to NOT appear to begin with ?

The decision must have been made regardless

[naive marten]

do you mean "i know"?

[humble verge]

But you're saving another model's computation to generate the output

[drowsy notch]

Fcking amazing

[humble verge]

I'm referring to the 🍌 model

[drowsy notch]

I can build whole documentry

[topaz helm]

Nano banana?

[humble verge]

In order to show error, or to simply NOT show up, the model must "know" whether it accepts the input or filter it, right ?

[real burrow]

bro how to only nano model for image

[drowsy notch]

Any one know how access quicky

[real burrow]

on the site

[lusty wind]

on the website, image editing.

Triggers for me really often

[naive marten]

i don't know about the internals and whether google's providing a "can nano banana be added to the model pool for this battle" api or whether lm arena just did a keywords.some(k => prompt.includes(k)) on their side - either way i don't think models should show up and just error out, the arena should minimize errors not maximize the pleasure of nano banana users imo

[humble verge]

By choosing NOT to show up, instead give it to other model, the site is wasting computation of another model, when it could've saved energy by showing that error. This clears the confusion for the user, so they won't keep re-trying to get that model in vain/ false hope.

[naive marten]

"wasting computation" ...are you not voting?

[humble verge]

The user is falsely lead into thinking it's unlucky that they didn't get the 🍌 and will keep retrying to get it, wasting computation

just tell them face-on that the input has error, so try to change it

[naive marten]

can you answer the question: are you voting?

[humble verge]

Isn't honesty better ?

[haughty smelt]

Ultra-realistic portrait of a Cristiano Ronaldo lookalike with slightly exaggerated features for comedy, lean athletic build, sharp jawline, slick short black hair, wearing a red football jersey with golden accents and muddy shorts. He is standing dramatically in front of a small Indian golgappa street stall, holding a shiny copper lota like a trophy. Golden sunset lighting, cinematic mood, busy street background.

[humble verge]

Ofcourse, how else would it let me continue ?

[real burrow]

which one is nano banana

[haughty smelt]

how to use nano bnan?

[rocky hamlet]

On the contrary, the more you retry, the more votes lmarena gets. The arena likes it when you retry

[humble verge]

It's not available in direct

[rocky jewel]

sketch to painted illustration
1 -> 2: "Extract the character onto a white background"
2 -> 3: "Paint her with blonde hair, white skin and dark blue skirt"

[real burrow]

ok, even i think this same

[humble verge]

But the point is that the user is trying to get a certain model to vote for it, and it would never appear, and the site is not bein honest up-front about it

[real burrow]

nano

[naive marten]

then i think everything's working as intended, you're ranking how different models (from the pool that are eligible) do for your prompt, which is the point of lm arena

that said i now understand how this experience could be infuriating if you just want to get to nano banana... i guess there are a few ways to fix this besides making it show up and error, maybe there could be a toast like "you're battling the subset of models that will take your prompt" or a direct image generation or battle between fixed and random option for nano banana

[humble verge]

If there is a problem with the input, just say it so we can know to change, instead of silently making the 🍌 model never appear, confusing users into thinking the model is taken down. Isn't honesty better ?

Why does it show error for all other models, but except specifically this one ? The inconsistency makes no sense

[lusty wind]

You cannot choose, only works in battle mode.

[naive marten]

"Why does it show error for all other models" probably because it's a genuine error from the api

[humble verge]

It's probably the same for 🍌 because I tested it in yupp.ai and it did show error and tell us upfront about it

[naive marten]

odd

[humble verge]

it told us there's a problem so it switched to other model, it didn't silently use another model like LMArena

[hushed quail]

I'm really impressed with this! I uploaded 4 images in an image prompt, covers from a particular comic series, and asked for the {title} {issue no}. It replicated the issue number perfectly, even arguably improving on it. I won't add the others to save a little server space, but I added three others of the same series. I would have been happy with a generation of a random one just 'inspired by' these covers, but it nailed it. 🔥

Ignore the extra leg, that's just some artistic license

[sturdy socket]

Assalamualaikum

[humble verge]

Wa Alaikum Assalam my brother

[sturdy socket]

@humble verge I want some help

[humble verge]

What is it ?

[sturdy socket]

Ai video make for my product advertising

[sturdy socket]

Im new in marketing

[humble verge]

You can try this section

[sturdy socket]

mm ok

[humble verge]

But I never generated videos before so I couldn't help further, sorry

[haughty smelt]

buddy ehich ai model?

[drowsy notch]

Nano banana

One ai model and booom

I can make fern style video

[lusty wind]

Good model. My only wish is to respect original character designs and stop making them look like generic A1 slop

[jolly oracle]

maybe a prompt can solve this?

I hope so

[lusty wind]

Let's try

Usually good models respect the og artstyle

I hate prompt engineering, ton of unnecessary babysitting instead of just "hey do this". Ends up making me all the thinking instead of the model, what even is the point of ai then.

[jolly oracle]

We may not have reached this level yet

[jolly oracle]

I think this will be possible once the models start learning our preferences based on our previous requests

[lusty wind]

I literally ask GPT-5 about obscure anime similar to Madoka Magica and hated for reasons that are found in any other major anime ever, and after 5-10 minutes of thinking it correctly identifies it among dozens of other shows.

When I ask Qwen, it annoys me with its politically correct commentary about how UhM aLl FlAwS aRe SuBjEcTiVe and then proceeds to tell me how Eva does not qualify because its flaws are "outweighted by the quality of the work", making up new rules, completely misunderstanding my prompt and just never finishing the task successfully

[fair spoke]

/crie uma imagem de um baby sorrindo

[lusty wind]

What kind of prompt engineering should I do here?

[jolly oracle]

I'm not good at prompt engineering either

[lusty wind]

"No, Qwen, identify shows just criticized for being boring regardless how great they are. No, do not come up with your pc nonsense. No, don't make up rules. No, stop cheating and count each flaw honestly"

And it still will not finish the task

Meanwhile GPT-5

Hey ChatGPT, which anime similar to Madoka Magica are hated for being boring confusing nonsense?

Sure buddy, here's the list: Neon Genesis Evangelion...

Prompt engineering sucks. Machines should ask us questions when they're unsure, not making up garbage confidently.

Nano banana (on the left) completely ignored the request to keep it in the artstyle of Madoka Magica.
GPT Image respected it, for comparison

Prompt engineering is not without its limits ):

[late thorn]

What was the original image?

[sweet bison]

The Girl with Her Mother

[late thorn]

Impressive

[lusty wind]

I would have never guessed it was edited.

[sweet bison]

Thanks 🙂

[sweet bison]

You're right, it really looks natural, looks like its his little sister.

[late thorn]

Yeah, Nano is very good to fake celebs selfie

[elfin estuary]

The prompt

[normal lichen]

Where I can test nanobanana?

[cunning moss]

where can i try nano banana ? cant find any link

[solemn plover]

Should be it

[rocky jewel]

lmarena and yupp.ai are the only places that have the real nano banana

[solemn plover]

I mean I got like 2 credits

[solemn plover]

Wym? Is it a scam?

[cunning moss]

i check lmarena and didnt find it

[rocky jewel]

It shows up randomly on the Battle mode

you can't use it directly

[rocky jewel]

yes, it's probably kontext or qwen-image, you can test by giving the same prompt to it and lmarena, they won't give the same result

[solemn plover]

Damn okay thanks man

Sorry for the misinformation

[normal lichen]

Damnn that’s why i can’t find

[late thorn]

Some mod needs to create a specific section on how to generate images in Nano Banana.
The HowTo guide doesn’t explain anything about it.

Make a step-by-step tutorial with images, explaining that it only works in battle mode.
Every 30 minutes someone shows up here confused.

[normal lichen]

I will test it now

[elfin estuary]

No, yupp has nano too.

[late thorn]

@agile oxide

[rocky jewel]

weird how nano can be unable to do the same thing it did to a similar image

[cunning moss]

flux kontext max is the best ai editing image i used but its out of list for few days idk why

[solemn plover]

Reddit said that nano should release around 3rd of September right?

[rocky jewel]

no matter how many times I prompt it, it can't do the pose on the left on the girl on the right

[normal lichen]

Yess like a list of models and where we can find them (only battle or even in direct chat)

[rocky jewel]

meanwhile the left always works, even though sometimes with an extra limb

[rocky jewel]

it's a stealth model, not really meant to be publicized like that

[normal lichen]

Damnn

[rocky jewel]

it's just that nano especifically is so far above the rest it blew up in popularity

[fair echo]

:)

[normal lichen]

Nano b

[late thorn]

I'm here to messed up great images

[normal lichen]

The sea right now in barcelona

[late thorn]

This morning output

Same prompt and images now

Nano Banana already nerfed?

[versed island]

/image - make this shot look more realistic.

[late thorn]

Nano banana so dumb rn

[lusty wind]

Too many people trying it so they are probably toning down the compute level

[humble raptor]

make a full button jersey

[lusty wind]

#1397655624103493813

[normal lichen]

Send me the prompt let me try something

And the images

[late thorn]

Place this bag in the scene with proper lighting and shadows so it blends naturally into the background.
Position the bag in this exact spot and angle without altering its orientation or design.
Adjust the colors, lighting, and shadows to ensure seamless integration.
Add reflections and refracted highlights that catch the light, with edges that glimmer with a crystalline glow.

[normal lichen]

Nano banan

Sometimes it gets it right sometimes nah

[north thunder]

alien and man riding horse

[late thorn]

The color is not right, needs to be more warm.
Like this output from this morning

Probaly nerfed

[normal lichen]

I changed the prompt

With and without the images as reference. Both nano

My eyes like this more idk I guess preferences

[late thorn]

But it's important to keep the same scene and composition

It's the briefing

Did some photomanipulation in Photoshop

[normal lichen]

Oh gosh the spacing perfect

[rocky jewel]

nano isn't very consistent

might be why Google is taking so long to properly release it

[late thorn]

Yeah, might be

Thank you, GPT.
My waiting record

[lament panther]

?

[twin lichen]

did they release nano banana yet

google

[normal lichen]

Same lmaoo

When it happens reload the page, don’t refresh it

I can’t find nano anymoree

Nevermind

Nano

[late thorn]

oops

[normal lichen]

Hahajaha she about to fall

[elfin estuary]

veo 3 fast 3 free videos for all users for this weekend

[forest yacht]

wrong channel, use #video-arena-1 and read #1397655624103493813

[proper atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-bananza-banandium-gem-banana-cystal-banandium-gif-5504716629523105193

[late thorn]

Best game of the year

[humble verge]

It's always the damn GPT that is slow like a 🐢

[compact island]

that's really cool

how did you do it?

[proud pond]

where do you guys use the nana banana?

[split plover]

Same thing happen to me

Maybe it’s the prompt fault

[humble verge]

Nikola Tesla riding a Tesla ? Lol

[balmy trench]

yo thats nice

[balmy trench]

in lmarena battle mode

[proud pond]

got it

[split plover]

Wow

Bro the quality of this is just perfect

[late thorn]

I created this using a technique I developed and am still testing.
Soon I’ll reveal my workflow here.

[elfin estuary]

The reflection on the car screen is insane.

[rocky grove]

i made these with Nano

original pictures were me at my window lol

[balmy trench]

nano banana is so good

[split plover]

Yes brooo

[split plover]

Omggg

[split plover]

Would be more good if there was text-to video or image to video part

But it will be not free as we want

[terse galleon]

Nano banana is text model too

[split plover]

Cool

[rocky grove]

gemini 3 probably

native image generation

[late thorn]

My new workflow

[elfin estuary]

So cool

[clear flame]

Looks like Steganography works well with nano banana too

like a small additional prompt

[glacial night]

Hi! Do you guys know a way to test nano-banana outside the Battle mode in LM arena?

[clear flame]

theres no other way

[glacial night]

Oh, okay. Thank you!!!

[clear flame]

theres news that it might come next week

[glacial night]

That would be awesome

It's so great

[clear flame]

ye

looks like it works well with steganography too

it gives better guide

[glacial night]

Woah! I didn't test it that way

[clear flame]

try it out

[crisp rain]

The second image changed your artstyle entirely

The GPT one has a much better style

[late thorn]

That's the objective

[crisp rain]

To make it worse?

[late thorn]

Art taste is subjective

[crisp rain]

🤔

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-duh-uh-yeah-lloyd-christmas-gif-7940001541646448846

[clear flame]

the lighting looks better

[late thorn]

This ultra yellow GPT and texture is awful for me

[crisp rain]

I find the GPT one better still

The sky changed completely as well in the second one, while the GPT one sky is more moody and atmospheric

[late thorn]

Well, we have different taste to art.
I work with art +15 years, so my references are different from yours

[crisp rain]

You act like I’m young lol

I have many years in art, too, buddy

Don’t be a snob now

[clear flame]

yeah, it looks soulless.

[late thorn]

idw, to enjoy the GPT aesthetic, dont look you have good taste, sorry

[crisp rain]

Personal attacks, huh?

Well, sorry the overly bright second image doesn’t impress me

[late thorn]

These GPT outputs looks are so boring and repetitive

Always the SAME

[crisp rain]

Oh?

This is GPT

[late thorn]

This image is trying to look photorealism, and not artistic bro

[crisp rain]

Art is subjective

Photography is also art

[late thorn]

Artistic, done

[crisp rain]

Hell, most people would consider all of the Ai stuff we do ‘not art’

[late thorn]

I only consider art if you generate every part with control and manipulate after.
Only type few words and get the output is not art

[crisp rain]

Yeah I’m not touching that one

[glacial night]

The bad thing about GPT is that you can recognize it almost every time

[crisp rain]

Of course

Just like nano banana also has a default artstyle if you don’t prompt differently

Most models do

[glacial night]

But some creations with gpt image are good and artistic

[late thorn]

Yes, that's the reason i'm using other AI to remove the GPT look and only use the composition.
GPT texture and colors are awful and boring

But GPT is great to composition

[crisp rain]

That would require subscriptions to all of those things

Not everyone has the money for that

[late thorn]

I know. I have all subscriptions because i work with it.
And i need to test everyday to adapt my workflow to next projects

[clear flame]

i have a collection and i easily get them for free lol

i also use yandex

[glacial night]

I'm from LATAM ☠

[crisp rain]

I use Yandex to get images for making LoRA

I make stuff locally because that’s specifically what I paid $3,000 for

[late thorn]

Me too haha

[crisp rain]

Because I don’t trust corporations

I won’t be told what I can/can’t make

Also, and this needs to be stressed

99% of high end models are trained on native English and natural English

[late thorn]

Nowaday i use AI to work with advertising.
I need to upload more projects i've done

https://www.behance.net/denoisedstudio

[crisp rain]

If you speak English oddly your results won’t be good

I’ve seen a lot of people calling the Ai ‘him’ or ‘her’ and it’s neither of those; it’s an ‘it’ because it’s not even a human, it’s a machine and machines don’t have pronouns lol

[clear flame]

with nano banana you can easily create one

[crisp rain]

Well yes

[clear flame]

the database i meant

[crisp rain]

All my nano-banana images are all made using only 1 image

Or two if I want two different characters

Or none if I’m just prompting

[clear flame]

i did found out steganography works well with nano banana too

its like place a small prompt onto the image

just inside the image's code

[crisp rain]

For what purpose?

Who does that benefit?

[clear flame]

like writing guides

or description

i tried it out on gemini flash image

and it indeed increases quality

[late thorn]

GPT to Midjourney + Nano Banana

[clear flame]

last time i tried out gemini flash image, it indeed made this amazing album cover (no nano banana)

[glacial night]

So, you first do the image in gpt because of the good composition? Did you try generating the source image with Nano-banana? What was the result?

[late thorn]

I did, but i found the GPT composition far superior

Like this example. Base generated in GPT

[glacial night]

Hahaha what a good image

[clear flame]

fortnite literally

[late thorn]

The composition is great, but the colors and texture from GPT is awful

[clear flame]

both characters added in fortnite

[elfin estuary]

Unfortunately same.

[late thorn]

We play the game of life in hard mode

[glacial night]

Get me out 😭

[late thorn]

It would be amazing if Nano Banana could generate a wider range of art styles—like cinematic visuals, high-fashion photo shoots, or even distinct video game aesthetics

[crisp rain]

….It can

You just have to have a knowledge of that stuff in order to prompt it

I’ve made plenty of nano banana images of various video game styles

[late thorn]

Okay, so generate the most cinematic image from Banana, please.

[late thorn]

Xbox 360, Playstation 1 graphics?

[crisp rain]

You need to specify specific games

It’s not just ‘Xbox 360 style’ because there isn’t one default style

[late thorn]

I'm no talking about a game, but about the console aesthetic

[crisp rain]

Again

You need to specify the graphics engine

If you specify these things that’s when you’ll get what you’re looking for

If you just slap on a generic theme then it won’t

[late thorn]

Okay, so send a cinematic image and bully graphic style image (PS2 era)

Nano can't do a really cinematic image

[crisp rain]

I’m not going to prompt a ton of images just for one thing

You get nano banana more if you’re editing images

Straight prompting makes you less likely to get it

[late thorn]

Well, you told the banana generate cinematic images, but it's a lie.
I just wanna you to show me

[clear flame]

maybe this version is just the beta version

[crisp rain]

What kind of English is this? 😑

[clear flame]

not the release

[crisp rain]

Not native, that’s for sure

[late thorn]

Of course, how many languages do you speak?

[crisp rain]

Did you not listen when I said that all these Ai models are trained on ‘native and natural English language’?

[crisp rain]

English and Japanese buddy

[clear flame]

whats native

[crisp rain]

I’m American and I’ve lived in Kitashinjuku in Tokyo

I also speak some Mandarin and Cantonese

And Spanish because of my job

But English is my first language

[late thorn]

Bro, generate a f* cinematic image and PROVE you are not wrong. Because you are talking bs

[crisp rain]

Like speaking English like a native speaker

[late thorn]

You CANT generate cinematic images with nano banana

[crisp rain]

Not whatever gibberish that is

[clear flame]

example?

[crisp rain]

You can it’s just a skill issue buddy 🤷🏼‍♂️

[crisp rain]

What example do you want? Like how I’m typing now

[late thorn]

Prove me.
You can't

That's simple

[crisp rain]

This isn’t native English

So the Ai has no clue what you’re trying to say

If you type in native English your prompts may work better

[late thorn]

I'm wainting the image

[crisp rain]

I’m just telling you how the Ai are trained

[late thorn]

Stop generate these slop anime stuff and prove me

[crisp rain]

LOL

Now you definitely sound like a snob

We’re done here

[late thorn]

See? You say bs and can't prove nothing 🙂

[clear flame]

i mean, nano banana doesn't get descriptions decent; just with simpler or lack works better, like 'use character in blahblah pose'

[crisp rain]

Because you’re using natural language and not a word salad prompt 😊

[clear flame]

like stable diffusion

[crisp rain]

Does that make sense?

A word salad prompt is one of those huge prompts with a ton of nonsense words

Natural language is speaking simply and straightforward

Also

Also lot models have token counts

[late thorn]

Bro, keep uploading 2 images from characters and prompting to generate the most generic japanese style

[crisp rain]

If you go past the token limit it simply won’t listen to your prompts

[crisp rain]

Ukiyo-e is a classic and historic style

Been around for thousands of years

[clear flame]

or maybe the top P is too low

[crisp rain]

It just happens to be one of my favorites

[crisp rain]

That, too

I think it’s the token limit

[clear flame]

i feel like this version has it low as test period

and maybe once it releases, it will increase

[crisp rain]

We found this out a long time ago with other diffusion models

Some only have a 75 token limit

So it ignores the rest of the prompt

That’s just a hard limit baked into the model

I have no idea what nano banana’s token limit is or what any of the other settings are

[clear flame]

since nano banana is possibly by google, i dont think it will be lackier than the gemini flash's one

[clear flame]

it shall be way better

[crisp rain]

As we’ve noticed, the simpler the prompt the better it works out

[late thorn]

It’s been a long time since the models have worked that way, because of the T5 XXL encoder.

Like Flux

[crisp rain]

If you type a giant prompt with a lot of nonsense words it won’t work out so well

[clear flame]

i tried pull a dithering filter, but it doesn't know what dithering is

[crisp rain]

If you have like 20 different art styles in one image it’s gonna end up messy

I’ve seen prompts like that

Where people used a giant prompt and the result looked nothing like what they wanted

[clear flame]

i did use steganography on gemini flash's edit, and it does increase the quality better but never messed up

[crisp rain]

I haven’t tried that before

[late thorn]

What you’re saying only works for older models. Nowadays, with the T5 XXL encoder, models can understand very long descriptions.
Reve, Ideogram, Imagen, Recraft, Flux.

[clear flame]

it'd be strange if this nano banana doesn't work well with larger descriptions

[crisp rain]

Just because it understands them doesn’t mean that’s what the output will be

[simple remnant]

All google imagen models (including nano), lack creative angles, which makes every image look the same as the last... his not wrong.

[crisp rain]

You can specify poses and the like

[simple remnant]

tho nano can do literally any style which no other model that i know of can do like it

[crisp rain]

You can use depth maps if you have to

[clear flame]

i did generate some album covers with the flash's one and they went too great

[crisp rain]

I’ve been saying that not one model is a one size fits all

[simple remnant]

Nano is a different case, since you can give him a reference of the pose/angle you want and he will absolutely nail it

[crisp rain]

They all do different things

[simple remnant]

but imagen sucks

[crisp rain]

Oh?

Here are some Imagen things I’ve done

Nano banana struggles at this

[clear flame]

like this one

[late thorn]

Nice one

[crisp rain]

Creating Pokémon

Nano banana fails at it while Imagen succeeds

[simple remnant]

very good style emitating, still...the angles honestly lack depth and feel ai

its always front angle

[clear flame]

or this

[vague spindle]

change bird to human keeping same style

[simple remnant]

yep that is indeed nano

[late thorn]

Easy task, simple images. Even MidJourney from 2023 would generate these images

[vague spindle]

yeaa its so good

[crisp rain]

You’re wrong.

Midjourney is horrible at it

[clear flame]

its crazy we can detect images and check them they're AI

[late thorn]

These images have no depth or composition; it's just a character facing forward

[simple remnant]

nah midjourny has its own unique style and is not good at mimicking

[crisp rain]

Now you’re getting blocked

I asked you to stop

You keep going like a whiny little baby 🙄

[late thorn]

Are you offended by something you didn’t even create? The author of these images is the AI, not you

[crisp rain]

Dude

I LITERALLY asked you to quit

Stop means stop

[stiff charm]

oh... you guys are upto something?

[crisp rain]

Do I have to say it in Brazilian Portuguese for you to understand?

[late thorn]

I doubt you can do it.

[late thorn]

Great use of AI

[crisp rain]

Eu lhe pedi para parar de ser um idiota e você continua fazendo isso.

[vague spindle]

thnks

[crisp rain]

And now we’re done here

[simple remnant]

this is not worth a fight, both of you are right.

[crisp rain]

That guy is being snobby over nothing

[clear flame]

i did like this one pose that gemini flash's edit generated (not nano banana)

[crisp rain]

And acting like he knows more than the rest of us

I used to go to art school myself 18 years ago when I was younger

I couldn’t stand snobs like him

Pretentious jerks

[late thorn]

I said Nano couldn’t generate cinematic images, and you claimed I was wrong. Yet you still haven’t proven it. You’re the typical guy who talks a lot without knowing and shows nothing.

[crisp rain]

Because I don’t want to waste my prompts on your stuff? lol

Go make it yourself

Go figure it out

[late thorn]

See? LOL

[crisp rain]

Use natural language and see if that helps

[clear flame]

or use gpt 5

[late thorn]

Amazing, dude

[crisp rain]

Or that

[crisp rain]

That doesn’t prove anything

I literally said

Now listen closely

I don’t want to waste my prompts and proving a stupid point to you

[simple remnant]

no one needs to prove anything, its just opinions you can agree or not, thats it. be fun guys.

[crisp rain]

You can make the image yourself

[clear flame]

wont be fighting be a rule breaking here

[late thorn]

I’ll give $50 to anyone who can generate a truly cinematic image with Nano Banana. It simply has this limitation—accept it. Don’t speak without knowing.

[crisp rain]

https://tenor.com/view/watchout-badass-neildegrassetyson-gif-5031973

[clear flame]

what type of cinematic though

[crisp rain]

Go look on X

[late thorn]

I prove my point. I don’t speak without knowing.

[crisp rain]

See what people are making

[simple remnant]

you know that you can give nano a reference for an angle or pose and he can easily do it...right?

[crisp rain]

Nano isn’t a ‘he’ it’s an ‘it’ because it’s a machine and machines don’t have pronouns

[covert swan]

Cinematic does not have a rigorous enough definition in this context, thus it's unprovable whether something is truly cinematic.

[late thorn]

Like these.
But from prompt only, and not using as base to change something.

Cinematic light
Cinematic Color grading
Cinematic camera angle

[clear flame]

i feel like that would be easy

[crisp rain]

But it’s not according to the Great Wise One

[vague spindle]

add soldier in full gear facing castle

[clear flame]

the problem is depth but still easy

[late thorn]

From text to image?
Nah

[crisp rain]

Skill issue

[clear flame]

inner depth i meant

[covert swan]

According to the rich ai expert, any image can be rejected just because he wants.

[simple remnant]

i was talking informally, and this is just discord why would i need to prove that im a master degree at language.

[late thorn]

Here’s an example of an AI that can generate cinematic text-to-image results: reve.art

[clear flame]

i wonder how images are going to be in 2 years

[late thorn]

Nano Banana can only create cinematic images through image-to-image, by providing a base image. It can’t generate them from scratch

[crisp rain]

I just get confused why a lot of people give pronouns to a machine lol

[clear flame]

maybe the accent

[crisp rain]

It’s because non-native English speakers speak that way

[vague spindle]

add boy sitting

nano is so crazy

[crisp rain]

The thing is

[clear flame]

it stretched resolution a bit

[crisp rain]

Since nano banana is random you’d have to prompt a lot to maybe get the image

If you upload an image to edit your chances of getting nano are increased

[vague spindle]

im getting it on first or second try on webiste

[crisp rain]

Because you’re editing images 🤦

[clear flame]

what about steganography?

[vague spindle]

yeah probably

[clear flame]

no one tried out that

until i did

[crisp rain]

I haven’t tried it

[late thorn]

Do you think it’s possible to generate cinematic images like the example with Nano Banana using text-to-image?

[vague spindle]

idk that works

[clear flame]

you can even bypass filter through that method

[crisp rain]

Use GPT

It is extremely simple to get a prompt that’ll do it

[clear flame]

like upload restricted images to gemini using jailbreak

placing the jailbreak within steganography

i found out steganography by a jailbreak discord server

[crisp rain]

If that guy wants cinematography so badly he should just use a GPT prompt

[late thorn]

The problem isn’t the text, but the Nano Banana model wasn’t trained to create images like that. That’s why it’s an impossible task, regardless of the prompt

[clear flame]

it totally work

[crisp rain]

If it’s a Google model that doesn’t make sense

Veo 3 can do that

Nano banana is presumably Google as well

Cinematography is an easy thing to make

[stiff charm]

why so?

[crisp rain]

Hell I did it with Stable Diffusion when it first came out

[crisp rain]

What I mean is the style

[late thorn]

Nano Banana has a different structure from the Imagen 3 and 4 models. I repeat, it’s impossible to generate those cinematic images from text-to-image with Nano Banana.

[clear flame]

illustrious makes it easily

[crisp rain]

I mean you can also do a ton of different photography styles

[clear flame]

u can ask gpt 5

[crisp rain]

He doesn’t want to listen 🤷🏼‍♂️

[stiff charm]

yea.... but i wanna know why? like because of more data available for thoose or what?

[clear flame]

i always use ai myself when questioning something

[crisp rain]

He wants to make us all sound like idiots

[crisp rain]

Bingo!

[stiff charm]

yea it make really good prompts

[simple remnant]

there you go

[crisp rain]

The more data available the more easily a style is

[late thorn]

That's no cinematic

[crisp rain]

Yes it is

[late thorn]

Okay, I have two people saying it’s possible, but I haven’t seen anything yet. Please generate the image and prove it to me, and I’ll agree. But just words won’t prove anything.

[crisp rain]

There are a TON of different cinematography styles man

[simple remnant]

wtf do you mean by CINEMATIC

[stiff charm]

i generated... the same pose using the prompt by Chatgpt

[crisp rain]

Don’t listen to him

Clearly he’s never seen a Wes Anderson movie

[clear flame]

just use gpt 5 for once

[simple remnant]

you are being a pain in the ass

[crisp rain]

Because all cinematography styles are the same apparently

[simple remnant]

and cant accept to lose an argument

[late thorn]

THIS is cinematic.
The color grading, the fog, the depth, the composition, the color palette

[compact island]

the banana is imminent

[clear flame]

it looks like the usual youtube ad you'll see 24/7

[crisp rain]

You want an HDR or DSLR image?

[simple remnant]

give me one image and i bet you my life if i cant imitate it.

its the easiest thing like ever

[crisp rain]

You can’t because he says we’re all wrong 🤷🏼‍♂️

[clear flame]

im even spanish myself and still can write english well

[late thorn]

Here

[crisp rain]

That looks like The Matrix

[stiff charm]

so... the challenge begins?

[clear flame]

the bad thing is when i speak it vocally, not writing

[crisp rain]

He just wants to make us feel bad

That’s what he’s trying to do

And claiming what ‘art’ is

Or ‘cinematography’ in this case

[late thorn]

I doubt you can create an image with that cinematic quality using text-to-image

[crisp rain]

That quality isn’t the best, honestly

I’ve seen better

Go watch Jurassic Park

That is cinematic genius

[crystal crater]

Madara Uchiha the official brand ambassador of nano banan

[late thorn]

Great, then it’s an even easier task for you. Go ahead, create it.

[clear flame]

gpt 5 waiting patiently

[crisp rain]

I think @simple remnant is doing it

[crystal crater]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-tobirama-izuna-uchiha-teleport-anime-gif-17752374

[crisp rain]

I, on the other hand, have better things to do than to inflate your already convoluted ego

[late thorn]

Better things to do? You’ve been here for hours just talking BS

[crisp rain]

No, that’s you mate

Trying to act superior over everyone

I gladly suffer fools 😊

[simple remnant]

anything else??

[clear flame]

i just found out that the noun 'simulacrums' works better for style switch in nano banana

[crystal crater]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-madara-uchiha-madara-gif-23467477

[crystal crater]

Yupp ai?

[late thorn]

This image is screaming AI from miles away. Well, if you don’t know what qualities a high-quality image needs to have, obviously you won’t have the vision for it.

[simple remnant]

im gonna do the joke...yupp

[simple remnant]

yeh bro i kneel to you, you are better than me and every human kind that ever lived

cant you accept defeat?

[clear flame]

prob im having ideas now

[crisp rain]

https://tenor.com/view/madara-laugh-naruto-anime-evil-gif-10351493

[clear flame]

or ask gpt 5 better nerdy nouns

since is the most advanced model, it could help more experiment

[crisp rain]

That guy is a professional because he uses Ai on Behance 😉

[late thorn]

"Look at them side by side to understand better. Your image is just a standard AI image with no quality at all, while the real image has depth of colors, proper placement of colors and lighting, composition, and professional color grading

[clear flame]

cuz we're not at 2030

ai not even soulful even

[crisp rain]

He just wants to be right. That’s it.

[stiff charm]

hey i got this from .... leonardo 😂

[late thorn]

I can generate images with that level of cinematic quality, but in other models. My point is: Nano Banana does not produce truly high-quality cinematic images.

[crystal crater]

@crisp rain btw

[crisp rain]

Someone should just pat his head and call him a good boy

[late thorn]

Leonardo is a better model to cinematic

[crisp rain]

LMFAOOO

[crystal crater]

@crisp rain you have watched the entire show right

[crisp rain]

Yessir

[clear flame]

that model is outdated dude

[stiff charm]

yea that's what i think

[crystal crater]

I made this on my own on alight motion as my pfp, please rate

[clear flame]

hell illustrious is even more a trend than leonardo

[late thorn]

Yes, and it still delivers a more cinematic result than Nano Banana.

[crisp rain]

I love that 😊 Great job!

[crystal crater]

Thanks

[clear flame]

still it looks like a YouTube ad

[crisp rain]

You did an excellent job at it

[clear flame]

bro switched side

[crisp rain]

No I mean the eyeball LOL

[late thorn]

I just tried it here.

Much more cinematic than Nano Banana.

[crisp rain]

That hideous yellow in the middle

[clear flame]

ik but its funny u switched from conflicting to happy

[crisp rain]

A man has many sides 😉

[simple remnant]

i guess you have problem with light.

you like it when its barely visible

[crisp rain]

https://tenor.com/view/loufy42-light-yagami-death-note-gif-15248803

[simple remnant]

i guess because it hides the ai imperfections?

[crisp rain]

He’s trying to sell stuff

[late thorn]

Now everything is clear.
You don’t know anything about cinema or filmmaking.
Makes sense.

[crisp rain]

So his clients don’t know it’s Ai

[crisp rain]

You’re really being a rude jerk

[clear flame]

now the ego is too high man

[crisp rain]

This is why I hated art school

Jerks like him

Thinking they’re better than everyone else

I can’t stand those people

You’re also part of the machine, buddy! You’re no different

[late thorn]

If you don’t know about a certain field, don’t try to act like an expert. Be a listener and learn.

[crisp rain]

Take your own advice and don’t be a jerk

[clear flame]

almost everyone here in Latam is starting to sell out stuff with AI, which is becoming humiliating, honestly...

[late thorn]

I know very well the field I’m talking about.
Now, if you start talking about otaku stuff, I’ll stay quiet because I don’t know anything about that world of anime 🙂

[crisp rain]

That guy is an expert, remember that

[simple remnant]

all you did is you focused all the light at the center point and blurred the background and make it dark...

[clear flame]

anime's unrelated to this?

[crisp rain]

You act like I only like anime, which you are very and sadly mistaken

You don’t know what ukiyo-e is

Which you thought was anime

[clear flame]

sounds like a stereotype

[crisp rain]

Clearly you don’t know art styles

Especially old ones

[clear flame]

i always liked pvz's one

[abstract saffron]

Man ask for job in marvel/Disney they are looking for jerks like you to keep doing flops and telling that it's viewers fault

[late thorn]

Said MadaraUchiha with an anime avatar.
well

[crisp rain]

Ok? And your point is…?

[clear flame]

and we barely meet

[crisp rain]

Come on Mr. Nikola Tesla sitting in a Tesla 😉

[clear flame]

we're chatting right through the internet

[late thorn]

I have a recent project posted that I did for Disney.
Thanks for mentioning it

https://www.behance.net/gallery/232379593/Coral-Disney

[crisp rain]

Ew

[abstract saffron]

That explains a lot your behavior is a perfect match for them xD

[crisp rain]

Classic Disney is the best

The 90s Disney Renaissance was the best

[late thorn]

Obviously, I’m going to defend something I understand, of course.

[clear flame]

Disney isn't even a trend anymore

[abstract saffron]

I like the new Disney. They do hideous movies and it's the viewer fault 😂

[crisp rain]

LMFAOOO

He’s using CHATGPT TO TALK!

HA!

Fraud!

Charlatan!

[abstract saffron]

Yes that's what they say when they lose millions

[crisp rain]

You’re only allowed to speak English here 😉

[clear flame]

what

[crisp rain]

Pay him no mind

Let him have fun with his cinematography

[late thorn]

.

[late thorn]

But I bet you understood.

[clear flame]

oop

i didnt know there was roles

now i updated

[crisp rain]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-english-agent-yawn-tired-rowan-atkinson-gif-17502421

[late thorn]

Said the anime character.

[clear flame]

maybe you shall relax a bit

release ur shoulders

[simple remnant]

damn this escilated quickly huh?

[crisp rain]

He’s using personal attacks to make himself seem like a bigger man than he really is 😉

[simple remnant]

from a banana to literal insults

[clear flame]

banana split

get it

[crisp rain]

Mental illness

[late thorn]

Now everything makes sense.
I understand why you identify so much with the model.
Nano Banana LOL

[simple remnant]

joe rogan jokes

[elfin estuary]

No pelien

[simple remnant]

did you just call us monkeys?

[crisp rain]

Now you’re gonna get reported 😉

[late thorn]

He is japanese

[clear flame]

bro

how is he japanese

[crisp rain]

Racist

[clear flame]

elaborate

it just sounds like a stereotype there

[simple remnant]

now its turning to racism?

[crisp rain]

I’m not Japanese at all, I just happen to be an educated American with an education 😊

Reading works wonders

[stiff charm]

mentioned in ur bio

[crisp rain]

Open a book sometime

[crisp rain]

No

It says ‘I speak Japanese’

In Japanese

[stiff charm]

NAH... I meant if we read your bio he could've understand that u're from california

[agile oxide]

Hey can we be more respectful to each other and refocus the conversation back to AI/nano-banana?

[crisp rain]

Oh yeah haha

[crisp rain]

We can’t because we’re all stupid

That guy says we know nothing

And is belittling all of us

[agile oxide]

I believe in us

[late thorn]

Yes, let’s talk about Nano Banana.
That anime guy over there knows a lot about it

[stiff charm]

lol

[crisp rain]

Here we go again

See what I mean?

[late thorn]

I'm talking about nano banana

[crisp rain]

No you’re being a jerk again

Clear as day

[late thorn]

No, that’s your interpretation.

[stiff charm]

Hey how can u spend all day doing nothing?

[late thorn]

Simple: I have my own agency, I pay people, and I have free time.

[clear flame]

no one still tries out steganography in nano banana

[stiff charm]

So.. have no talent... to do anything?

[simple remnant]

no purpose in life

[elfin estuary]

Why is everton catching so much hate?

[crisp rain]

@agile oxide Make something cinematographic so he can insult you, too!

[stiff charm]

just talk to him 2 min... u'll get it

[elfin estuary]

I previously did seems nice

[stiff charm]

so maybe today he is high...

[agile oxide]

So like I said let’s keep this focussed on AI. If you’ve got an issue with someone I’d recommend the mute button. If not we’ll start to step in

[crisp rain]

Funnily enough this has been about Ai

[late thorn]

Because I work in the film industry, and they want to know more than me, and they didn’t like that I debated about the subject I work with and actually know what I’m talking about.

[crisp rain]

You’re no Stephen Spielberg that’s for sure

[clear flame]

i think mods about to do job

[agile oxide]

Looked like it was getting pretty personal to me

[late thorn]

And you’re not Madara Uchiha.
At least I actually exist.

[simple remnant]

can you send links to some of your works im really interested. genuinely

just post them here

[stiff charm]

u have to become his client.... then u can recieve some of his " creations"

[crisp rain]

I wouldn’t pay him a penny

[stiff charm]

no one does

lol

[elfin estuary]

I googled and he seems to be on LinkedIn, legit to be honest.

[stiff charm]

okay.... well am leaving now .... it's seems it will take my all day

[crisp rain]

Anyone can make a LinkedIn page

[simple remnant]

he is now upset and dosnt want to send links...

[simple remnant]

im sorry if i hurt your feeling, i really have nothing against you.

[crisp rain]

At the end of the day we’re going to continue to do what makes us happy 😊

I have a job so I just use Ai for fun

That’s it

[clear flame]

here comes

[topaz helm]

Hello chat

[clear flame]

hi

[crisp rain]

Tons of Veo 3 I see

[sudden fog]

Text to video generator

[clear flame]

you shall relax then

not be personal

[crisp rain]

He already said racist things

The damage has already been done

[topaz helm]

what am I missing?

[crisp rain]

You can’t generate stuff in here

I believe that’s in the video channel, not this one

[topaz helm]

Its true

So?

[topaz helm]

What is it?

[clear flame]

its like encoding a secret prompt inside the image

[topaz helm]

Can I have an example?

[clear flame]

for example a pose reference pic, once you download it, use steganography and encode such prompt or guide, like 'example for height and pose reference. Face hidden by hand. Cinematic mood. Hand held waist.'

its like injecting

[topaz helm]

Ohh ok

Thx

[clear flame]

it also works as jailbreak too

[lusty wind]

Tbh this guy @late thorn is ass but he's not wrong

[crisp rain]

We’ve all moved on from that 😊

I’m finding that Seededit can do some pretty neat stuff, also

A lot of it is bad but sometimes it makes something great

Nano banana actually did a bad job and failed

I love the Seededit version more (the first one) because that’s what I prompted

[covert swan]

he's a prick who wants to hate on nano banana and has an arbitrary definition of "truly cinematic"
but yeah the nano banana text-to-image doesn't get the lighting just right, the color grading is a little flat
it doesn't mean it's a bad model, it's probably better for other things

[lusty wind]

He is not wrong and knows what he is talking about.

Even if he is a prick.

[covert swan]

I suppose so

but it doesn't mean you have to be rude to other people

shouldn't true professionals be nice to others? but anyway, ai stuff

inconsistent sadly...

and also i asked nano banana to make a sunny scene rainy, it just spit out the same image

[late gale]

How can I use Nano banana

[late thorn]

Now using Ideogram in workflow

[terse galleon]

"Think and make this photo ultra russian"

😢

[stiff robin]

create a 1/7 scale commercialized figure of the character in the illustration,
realistic resin statue style with highly detailed sculpted textures,
place the figure on a computer desk using a circular transparent acrylic base without any text,
on the computer screen display the ZBrush modeling process of the figure,
next to the screen place a BANDAI-style toy packaging box printed with the original artwork,
studio lighting, ultra detailed, photorealistic product photography

[crisp rain]

I’m not getting resin style from that

It looks far too plasticy

It looks like digital artwork, but not a statue

I would’ve gone with PVC style

[zinc shuttle]

The one with the Anti-ragging theme was a real handmade poster, second & third images I created with Nano Banana

It works very nice with reference images

[crisp rain]

The only problem is nano banana suffers from spelling errors

[zinc shuttle]

Yesss true but for a general broad reference it nails it, the different testing which I was doing on LM arena, everytime Nano banana was winning

[crisp rain]

For me nano banana wins at some things but fails in others

I’m surprised when I vote against it and find out the model was something I didn’t expect

Like Seededit

I’ve been dismissing that one a lot

And DALLE 3

But they manage to surprise me sometimes

[zinc shuttle]

Chatgpt & flux kontext was also doing great job but it depending on tasks, chatgpt was very finished with images with texts , but it literally changes styles, over-all reference etc,

I guess if flux kontext upgrade version will come it'll be something next level

That poster example I sent, it's a good starting point especially for students who wanna make a poster for competition etc, they can get a visual representation idea with that

[crisp rain]

I think every model has a different use case

There’s no one size fits all model

You have to use different ones for different things

[late thorn]

One more

[tawdry comet]

In terms of image editing from what i've been trying it's so far ahead of all the other ones. It does fail sometimes but i've been voting and I might have chosen it 90% of the time

I expect an elo of 1350 maybe on image edit

[chrome bane]

i'm sorry if it's a stupid question, but is Nano-Banana open source? Like, can I use it locally? Because I can only use it via lmaerana.ai.

[lusty wind]

It is not even released yet, and since it is Google's model, it is unlikely to be open weight ):

[normal lichen]

Nano

Qwen did a better job tho

[chrome bane]

There's a few things I don't understand. Did Google actually say this is their model? Because I never saw that. And if they did, I’ve never seen Nano-Banana on Gemini or AI Studio. Also, when people post about 'Nano-Banana with workflow,' is that coming from a ComfyUI workflow, or are they talking about something completely different?

[abstract saffron]

Some models are created by asian companies. It makes sense that they do manage it better since their native language is not really English but they were trained with asian language

[abstract saffron]

Adidas sport suit ✅ 😂

[lusty wind]

If you ask Nano-banana to tell who created it, it'd tell that it is Google. A Google engineer also recently twitted "🍌" just in case

It's been said all but explicitly that it is Google's model

[abstract saffron]

It's an unreleased Google model so no. You can use Qwen edit as is the closest

[chrome bane]

i understand. thank you for clarifying.

[abstract saffron]

I thought he wrote by mistake on "x" instead of Tinder 😂

[normal lichen]

Meh

[tawdry comet]

it's also crazy for colorization even though it's not a model specialized in that, beats all the other ones every time

[honest breach]

#1397655624103493813 use lmarena to generate image from image in lmarena disord

[tawdry comet]

shame the resolution is lowered a bit

meanwhile the human colored versions were like this which hm lacks a lot of color

meanwhile with qwen and flux it doesnt look real. Qwen way overshot saturation with the soldier one, and flux is decent but it lacks saturation cause trucks really were this blue back then

[fringe dew]

vẽ ảnh 1 con gà

[lusty wind]

IMO Flux did much better job here vs Nano. Speaking as Eastern European, it's rare to find any bright colors outside.

[tawdry comet]

that's in usa, the truck should be more blue and uniforms had these colors

i feel like in human colorizations too it's like they are always undersaturated, like they think the past looked more dull

[steep shoal]

add a baseball hat

[fringe dew]

a girl japan

[normal lichen]

🫠

[vocal light]

cat

[dusty flume]

gere a imagem deste homem segurando um energetico rosa, com nome "Ve se vira homem"

[lone folio]

you can use it on the website (lmarena.ai) in battle mode, not here

[dusty flume]

thank you

[cloud wolf]

elaborate why it didnt add veganism

or else ban (joke)

[gentle jasper]

Er...

Chat, I think this guy might be a nutzo.

[blazing atlas]

MAKE PHOTO

[gentle jasper]

You can make one via the "/image" command.

[atomic valley]

/image make a futuristic of people dead by tomatoes

[hard blaze]

ok

[lusty wind]

Please read #1397655624103493813 , or use the website.

[regal hazel]

convolutional neural network

[fringe dew]

Make a girl

[rocky grove]

This is not we use the bot

You have to go on https://lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=image

Send your prompt and vote for the best result

Then you will see the name of the two models

If you're lucky, you'll have Nano

[gentle jasper]

They were trying to use the bot, but that has been disabled for whatever reason. It seems to only be available in #video-arena-1 .

[small sundial]

Animated vs realistic

Very good ressults

[gentle jasper]

True.

[lusty wind]

uncanny valley thing

[small sundial]

The AI that does this is Flux Kontext

[tawdry comet]

yeah banana wins

but it made some weird bass not a guitar

[small sundial]

Texture

In this kmage realistic

Bobby bearhug

[small sundial]

Look like a 80s photo

[stiff charm]

Hey @gentle jasper

can you tell me how to generate character
in the same art style? or animation style?

[gentle jasper]

Sure.

[stiff charm]

yup it would be a looooooooooottt help!

[gentle jasper]

Yeah, I got you.

[stiff charm]

trying this for hours..... hope you can do 💚

[gentle jasper]

I know that nano-banana is very good at preserving a specific art style even while manipulating an image.

[lusty wind]

Not really

[gentle jasper]

Well, sometimes it doesn't, but those are rare occasions. Most of the time, it will keep the same art style for the associated character.

[small sundial]

Minecraft style

[lusty wind]

It literally made my fav HomuMado look like a-1 slop >:c

[gentle jasper]

Sure, it may not be a perfect image editing model, but it still tries its best.

[small sundial]

Friends should add a video editing option to the page.

[gentle jasper]

True.

Video generations would be a pretty neat idea.

[small sundial]

Well, to edit videos like changing clothes, improving quality and changing style

[gentle jasper]

That too.

[small sundial]

Yes, like rotoscoping with clothes.

But IA video

[gentle jasper]

Yeah.

[small sundial]

They should also put all the video models on lmarena

[gentle jasper]

True.

It'd be nice to use Veo 3 on there.

[small sundial]

Yes, bro, we need the Google Veo 3 video generator in lmarena.

[gentle jasper]

True.