nano-banana

[regal hazel]

🍌

[agile oxide]

I haven't gotten lucky today yet 🙁

[lusty wind]

I have got it all the time in image editing

maybe I am just so frequent as a user

lol

[karmic steeple]

This model is my favorite thus far

[agile oxide]

whats your go to image prompt?

[karmic steeple]

Hmmm...good question... turning my images into a funny comic panel is one..

[agile oxide]

I went with the option that was more full

[toxic mica]

well.. prompt failed.
but reflection of light in the glass is extremely realisitc

[agile oxide]

yeah very true

[rocky grove]

I don't know what to think about Nano

It's very good sometimes and very bad some other times

[languid hollow]

I’m just amazed at what it generates, without getting blocked. Plenty of NSFW. Wasn’t sure if that is purely due to testing or if it will be that way once released.

[rocky hamlet]

It actually has the legs of wine, impressive

[agile oxide]

How so?

[agile oxide]

Hmm I haven't seen or heard reports of that yet

[abstract saffron]

Pretty good so far vs all the other image models

[languid hollow]

The editing blows my mind.

[deep aurora]

I know it's test model with some rough edges... but is there any possibility that there is multiple models under the same anonymous alias- just like Google did with gemini-test?

[toxic mica]

is it confirmed that it's from Google?

[deep aurora]

I guess no. For prompts like "create art of lab who created you", it outputs Google, but that could be just false info in its system prompt / learning data.

[jolly oracle]

no

[rocky grove]

Well flux max is also very good at this...

It's good at editing but doesn't understand complex prompts

I got very bad result for complex prompts

[languid hollow]

Nope. Not nearly as good in the testing.

[rocky grove]

Like two images, replace one character in one image with the other

[languid hollow]

For me at least

[rocky grove]

look

"Replace the text, use the exact same style and font, with "different day same sh1t"

if only the letter wasnt missing lol

• it added "the"

bad result

much better

it struggles so much lol

it's a super easy task, every other model get it right

asked it to replace it with a cig

it's good

sometimes it's good but sometimes its very bad

[velvet hornet]

i add the same image with the part that needs to be edited highlighted, that seems to help

[sterile tapir]

where does one access the banana?

[tranquil forum]

How does one try out nano banana? I'm new to LM Arena

[sterile tapir]

hold up is this what I think it is?

[languid hollow]

Ususally a skill issue with prompting

[languid hollow]

It's only in battle mode and is randomly assigned, you can't choose it. Only find out after you submit a prompt and choose whioch image you like the most.

[agile oxide]

Got to get lucky. It’s in battle mode so you’ll be sampled two random models

[woeful dragon]

i like how it recreates the bad photoshop look perfectly

[proper bronze]

I love how nano-banana has its own dedicated channel now

I also low how the model's name is only a few steps removed from tiny pe– user was banned for this message

[rocky grove]

yea pretty cool

[rocky grove]

a joint? yea

[crisp rain]

Nano banana is good but I find myself liking the Imagen outputs a lot more

Nano banana sadly also doesn’t know half the pop culture stuff that GPT1 does

Like…GPT1 can create all kinds of anime, movie, game, tv show, etc. characters

[rocky grove]

yea

t et e

true

[sterile tapir]

Nah if you know you know

[crisp rain]

The models that should be removed from the site are DALL-E 3 and Gemini Flash

They have the worst outputs

They shouldn’t even be in the running

[proven oasis]

Nano Banana is the best ai. 🙂

[crisp rain]

I disagree

It would be if it knew all the stuff GPT1 does

[ember osprey]

cute windows 2.0 kek

[queen comet]

what is nano banana

[balmy trench]

an image model

[proper bronze]

nano banana

prompt was Cute pastel colored Windows 2.0 inspired OS with a drawing program open and a cute drawing of a satanic kitten holding a knife in it

[lethal vault]

nano banana is gpt-image-2

no way

[agile oxide]

I love it!

[proper bronze]

really? Source?

[lethal vault]

"source"

[proper bronze]

??

[lethal vault]

do you seriously expect to find a source for a ANONYMOUS model?

people these days

[crystal crater]

A nano banana chat channel?

[idle plinth]

It's clearly a Google model, usually OpenAI's image models (GPT-Image and Dall-e) take forever to generate the image, Google's image models are faster. And another thing, some DeepMind employees liked posts on X about nano-banana

[vale cave]

is nano banana region limited? nver comes to me in battle

[idle plinth]

Nah. The model is probably refusing your prompts or your input images

[vale cave]

It is hidden from leaderboard too?

[vale cave]

thanks

[idle plinth]

Yeah, its anon model

[proper bronze]

Nano banana has a very similar style to Imagen, too

[flint anvil]

Nana banana is insane at making lore, fanfic

[agile oxide]

[idle plinth]

Impressive

[flint anvil]

Prompt: "show his side"

[bronze jetty]

Cc go 😂

[proper bronze]

damn nano banana losing to flux

[eager jetty]

I love how flux left him in the crater xD

[proper bronze]

tbh thats what I wanted haha

[velvet oxide]

How do you guys use nano banana?

[proper bronze]

image creation battle mode

or image editing

[proper bronze]

Cheesy 90s Geocities page dedicated to Tsuchinoko with colorful word art "TSUCHINOKO REAL" and photos of Tsuchinoko and 90s clipart

I feel like that was supposed to say "you bet your beanie babies it is!" Which is awesome

[gritty portal]

nano banana is removed?

[agile oxide]

No it should still be there - only accessible through Battle mode though

[gritty portal]

my bad

[stiff charm]

hey why don't you guys also upload prompts when u upload the images - it would be really helpful ... i guess?

[proven dune]

Can you please share some prompts?

[summer furnace]

What is nano-banana? Why does it get its own channel?

[summer furnace]

Wow it's so good at UI and text

[lusty wind]

Nano-banana is the first model after GPT to know this character

Lies, Imagen knows it too

Sigh... Google still ahead of everyone

[covert swan]

this is the nano banana cult, please move to the google cult

[covert swan]

ben 10 fan spotted
please share prompts if you can

hmm would you believe if I told you this was nano banana?

[flint anvil]

Prompts:

"Turn this guy into a mascular buff, flexing, taking a selfie, in photorealistic gym but keep him in cartoon artstyle"

"Turn this guy into a drug addict, in a messy house"

For 2d to 3d:
"Turn this into a figurine placed at the office desk, with office supplies and computer in the background, blurred, closeup view of figurine"

[flint anvil]

"Turn this guy named Overflow taking a selfie in Wales, with photorealistic backgroun of wales"

"Overflow from the image depicted as dead, with his body dead on the ground, unconcious, with his translucent ghost form appears and visible"

[pastel creek]

Taking out the design printed on the T-shirt, show me the print

[crisp rain]

I really can’t wait for nano-banana to be a selectable model in direct chat

It sucks having to roll randomly, sometimes many times, to get it

[flint anvil]

Draw a bounding box showing where the omnitrix symbol is located

[agile oxide]

[misty dust]

nano bananna is crazy

[flint anvil]

can we agree that nano banana is an insane model

it was once a humble model with humble name

until we saw its true colors

[agile oxide]

Animate me an image of Tokyo's city skyline. Give a neon aesthetic, add futurist advancements.

[misty dust]

can we use 2 image at same time for nano banana ??

since im not getting any result with that from nano banana

[flint anvil]

yes

[misty dust]

can u share

u had created

it ll help

[flint anvil]

i mean you can input two or more images

then prompt to consider the reference

[misty dust]

like i was telling if u can share one eg so it will help me

like i told him to replce

or such but it dont give accurate result and use gemini for tht

but if use just a single image it will give result with nano banana

[pastel creek]

I think I told banana to draw their first meeting.

[stiff charm]

isn't it the image of guy i know

[misty dust]

Whic one ??

Chirayu Mistry or Varun Mayya

[stiff charm]

Varun Mayya

[misty dust]

ok

just to check i used varun

[stiff charm]

i mean you don't have his permission for it ..

[flint anvil]

it took me fruitful retries and follow ups

• rolling dice

[stiff charm]

it paid off

[hard sun]

https://d.tnktok.com/ZMA88XAA4/

Anyone with knowledge would mind telling me how could I create image/videos similar to these?

[hoary prism]

/list

[ember osprey]

internet explorer 5 splash in skeuomorphism

[slim quail]

prompt?

[cloud wolf]

is https://nano-banana.org/ scam?

[shrewd dove]

create a random video and it must have sound music or anything goes it should be go viral

[lusty wind]

Please read #1397655624103493813 for instructions.

[sweet finch]

Just made these ones. It’s really good at details especially of famous brands. Google is using it‘s database pretty good 😂

[teal gorge]

hello guys!

how to use nano banana ?

can someone help ?

[grand wagon]

#nano-banana message

[teal gorge]

kk tysm!!

[rare trout]

I did this with flux kontext (test)

[covert swan]

agreed
btw what are your thoughts on where nano banana came from? which company made it or which image model is it similar to?

[flint anvil]

looks like a google model

[covert swan]

yeah it seemed that way to me too

though the imagen 4 available on google apis doesn't seem to be up to par with it

maybe they made some advancements, otherwise this quality is incredible

[flint anvil]

2 strong evidences

1. it labeled Swampfire as HeatBlast incorrectly which is common in Flash model
2. asking who it is would say "I'm a large language model by Google"

[covert swan]

hmm

also, adding anonymous models to lmarena is making people drive up the votes right? otherwise people might just keep using direct chat

smart of them to do that

[flint anvil]

Also Gemini 2.0 Flash is the only model that can do rudimentary visual reasoning, seems to inherited with nano banana

Try like doodling something then put a text inside the image "Make us do this", it will extract the task

[misty dust]

hey @flint anvil did u get any better results while using 2 characters ??

[flint anvil]

Depends, if its too complex, it may not correctly generate

[misty dust]

because im getting near accurate result in one character

both man sitting on an elephant in a forest
like this was the result with the prompt

[flint anvil]

2.0 Flash was severely flawed and broken, it feels comparable to like 2b or 4b models when it comes to image generation and editing especially prompt adherence

[misty dust]

this man's face was made incorrect

and other's eye got deformed

[rare trout]

Original vs generated

[dusty crescent]

wuts dis channel for

[bright linden]

Talking and posting generated images of nano banana

[rare trout]

Nano banana edit

[agile oxide]

It's only available in Battle mode at https://lmarena.ai/. This channel is meant just for discussion related to the model.

[teal gorge]

Okaay tyysm!

[rocky grove]

Zoom out this picture like it was taken 30 meters away

Consistency is amazing

[rare trout]

Ralistic vs original 😎

[rocky grove]

EW

original is better

[rare trout]

Ralistic is scary

[rocky grove]

yes hahahaha

[proper bronze]

Realistic is hilarious

[rare trout]

Two result

Plushie

[leaden sierra]

I've been tryna use nano, like 20 tries on image to image with no luck. Any suggestions?

[rare trout]

Nanobanana

[rocky grove]

I keep getting it

Just luck

[rare trout]

This AI makes stuffed tooys

[rocky grove]

Make it look like a casual mirror selfie of a random young person wearing this T-shirt. The style should be Y2K streetwear with baggy jeans. It should feel natural and unpolished, like a photo someone would post on Vinted to sell their clothes.

Amazing result

[lusty wind]

I thought that was a real person

[rocky grove]

Yeah same lol

I know what i'm going to do now

next time i'm selling clothes

[leaden sierra]

I thought you extracted the tshirt lol

[rocky grove]

oh it's also possible

[rare trout]

Yeah

[rocky grove]

it's even very good at it

[rocky grove]

bro

can you try exporting t shirt

on this image

[rare trout]

It looks a lot like the one in the picture

[rocky grove]

it's the same

[rare trout]

Yeah

[rocky grove]

i'm asking yoiu if you can ask

nano banana

[regal hazel]

LMAO

[rocky grove]

to export the tshirt

[rare trout]

ok I'll do it

[leaden sierra]

smaller print but pretty good output

[rare trout]

yes it's pretty

[lusty wind]

Tried that with some random pants from pinterest.

Looks real realistic

[rare trout]

if it looks very ralistic

[lusty wind]

It's good at showing the rest of the person's body.

[rare trout]

What I did was ask him toI want these baggy jeans to be black and to be worn by a 19-year-old girl.

Bro

[rocky grove]

lmaooo i luanched a trend

[rare trout]

the other result that came out

Bro

black does match

[rocky grove]

Edit this picture like it was taken in daylight

This is crazy

[misty dust]

better than Aleph

[regal hazel]

true

this model is so good

[misty dust]

yess

[rare trout]

Inprove Quality vs original

[regal hazel]

broooo 🍍

[rare trout]

Hello

[umbral plinth]

Which model did you use?

[misty dust]

check this too

just gave him facial photo and prompt of sitting on a white horse

[umbral plinth]

I would like to have old black and white photos made in color, which model is good?

[misty dust]

vote the one and it will pop which model it gave

[umbral plinth]

Okay thanks

[umbral plinth]

Yes

Which model do you compare with battle

[proper bronze]

Nano banana implies the existence of a regular sized banana

Imagine, that'd be an awesome model

[rare trout]

You know why I like this model because it has good image quality to improve the quality of the photos

[proper bronze]

Lmarena quietly adds mega-banana whats the first thing you do with it?

[lusty wind]

Ayeee, Paulie

[rare trout]

First I ask you to correct the color and improve the quality and then color the image.

Although this is current, I asked him to improve the quality.

The first imagen is better Quality

[flint anvil]

Point where is the fracture based on this imaging, generate a bounding box

this can revolutionize healthcare 🤯

and accessibility applications 🤯

[umbral plinth]

@rare trout it's new to me, you turn on the battle and then on the logo image and send the photo and ask that the photo can be in color?

[late thorn]

Well, the box should be smaller

Nano Banan can't unblur images

[rare trout]

T shirt generated

[leaden sierra]

I'm pretty sure it can, sometimes it just bugged

[lusty wind]

why did you select nano as better if it could not unblur the image?

[rare trout]

But the quality of the model is good, better than other xomo topaz models.

[lusty wind]

or was that just outline

[crisp rain]

I really hope that the released model isn’t censored and crippled beyond belief

That’s the problem with these closed source models

[lusty wind]

That may happen since it's google

[crisp rain]

They lure you in with amazing and fun things and then censor heavily when the fun gets started

[rare trout]

What happens is that very poor quality images deform them.

[crisp rain]

Look what OpenAi did

All that fun stuff with GPT1, blew up on X with all the memes, then got neutered beyond belief

This is why I’ll stick with open source models

No censorship, guardrails or corporate handholding

[rare trout]

The bad thing about chatgpt is that it changes faces

[crisp rain]

I won’t pay to use Google’s model if it refuses even the most mundane prompts

That’s a waste of my money

[rare trout]

ChatGPr changes its face for security reasons

[crisp rain]

Again, why I prefer open source models

I won’t be told what I can or can’t make

[safe badger]

oooooh interesting okok

[rare trout]

Yeah

[covert swan]

seems crazy how a diffusion model that's built to denoise can't denoise but generates pretty good images

[lusty wind]

And now OpenAI has made gpt5 more sycophantic like 4o because of all the complainments of it being too robotic

yay.

[crisp rain]

Yep

People ruin everything

You’re better off sticking to open source stuff

If you’re gonna pay for something it should be able to do what you want it to

But I digress

[covert swan]

personally, I like ai that doesn't mince words and gets to the point

[crisp rain]

Speaking of…

[covert swan]

but all the LLMs these days add too much fluff to their replies, makes me want to spend some time making a reliable system prompt

[crisp rain]

One of my GPT1 things. Nano-banana can’t do this

[opaque sky]

same, i need it to be a slave, not a friend. it's sad to say, but it's just a machine

[rare trout]

Two results inprove Quality

I put the text

[regal hazel]

true, i couldnt see the fracture myself

[umbral plinth]

Is this good?

[rare trout]

Yeah

[umbral plinth]

Okay will try tonight

[rare trout]

the results are good?

[crisp rain]

I suppose I’ll show my nano-banana stuff

[rare trout]

It does give me good results.

[late thorn]

Some testes with Nano Banana

[crisp rain]

Original is on the left, My nano-banana version is the right. It’s Fei Long from Street Fighter.

[rare trout]

Good

[crisp rain]

My most favorite Pokémon of all time, Alakazam

[rare trout]

is this model consistent

[rare trout]

Realistic pommi

[flint anvil]

Generate bounding boxes pointing to objects

no doubt this is gemini 2.5

it was able to reason 3d

[rare trout]

has realism

[balmy trench]

nano banana

[bright linden]

🍌

[bright linden]

Sometimes it does some weird sht. Did you try it again?

[rare trout]

Real vs anime

[bright linden]

Hmm, few details are missing, incorrect eyes, wrong hairstyle and isn't she Japanese?

[crisp rain]

She lost her distinct hairstyle

Well

The model doesn’t know she’s Japanese

It’s going based off the image itself

[crystal crater]

The anime one is real bruh

[bright linden]

Ah I see.

[crystal crater]

@crisp rain Uchiha madari

[rocky grove]

Add a blood stain on the ground like someone was dragged

[rare trout]

Yeah

[leaden sierra]

I keep getting blurred backgrounds in portrait images. I've tried "background not blurred", "clearly visible background" and "clean background" but no luck. Any suggestions?

[bright linden]

Huh

[crisp rain]

I’ll tell you another reason

I think how people write English affects outputs as well

[crystal crater]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-tybw-bleach-bleach-tybw-aizen-tybw-gif-15350863704703392756

[crisp rain]

I’ve noticed a lot of odd things as a native English speaker

[crisp rain]

That’s Sōsuke Aizen

[crystal crater]

Yeah, he's the author of the manga bleach

[bright linden]

Interesting. So if I write the prompt in Japanese, I might have a chance of getting Japanese originated images?

[rare trout]

yaer I made this with flux

[crisp rain]

You should definitely try that but I think so 😊

[bright linden]

Kyoka Suigetsu lol

[bright linden]

Alright. Thanks for the ideas

[crisp rain]

He’s not Tite Kubo!

[crystal crater]

You need to be very specific with flux

[rare trout]

Flux kontext

[crystal crater]

I meant

The prompt

[rare trout]

First I wrote to take off her hair

[crystal crater]

Yeah he's not tite Kubo, tite Kubo is under his genjutsu since if he writes the story himself people would be freaked out seeing a pen move on it's own

[rare trout]

second that he gave him a white beard

and put him in a suit and tie

I want to change my hair color to blue

Original vs flux kontext

[rocky grove]

My god, this is the best result i ever seen! "Recreate a cat with the mouse cursors

"

[rare trout]

Remastered vs original

[rocky grove]

"Zoom out this picture like it was taken 10 meters away"

[rocky grove]

wtf is that

[toxic mica]

this model looks crazy good... kudos to whoever cooked it,

[jolly oracle]

it has some limitations but i think it's new sota on image edits

99% chance this is from google

[junior bolt]

I dont see the fracture lol

[main finch]

Why I can't edit images, it only gives me text

[late thorn]

Make sure this box is checked

[main finch]

Yeah, I use that.

[outer quarry]

It's telling me to try again later T_T

[crisp rain]

I think the Taiwanese broke it

[molten tapir]

does it work with 2 input images? Like put X in the scene in Y?

[leaden sierra]

It keeps saying "Something went wrong while generating the response. Please try again." when using image to image

[agile oxide]

Hmm looks like we may have an outage going on

Team is aware of the issue and working on a fix!

[main finch]

Someone has time to do a little tuto thank you

[raw grove]

rematerise cette image et ajoute des dophins au fond

[neat ridge]

Why is there a channel for nano banana

[agile oxide]

To discuss nano-banana!

[neat ridge]

But there is no channel for any other image model🤔

Is this model so good that it deserves its own channel?

[agile oxide]

It's been getting a lot of chatter so we wanted to make a temporary channel for it. Just helps the flow of conversations a bit better.

[proper bronze]

also the fact that its a stealth model invites a lot of speculation

[agile oxide]

City skyline of Bangkok Thailand but neon and futuristic

[timber hamlet]

howcome I keep gen in battle but can't see nano banana model

[agile oxide]

It's there, I just got it

[rocky grove]

same!

[timber hamlet]

: O

[rocky grove]

but the worst thing about nano

[rocky grove]

is that it's not stable

like sometimes it's super good

and sometimes it's the worst

[timber hamlet]

any other site can directly get nano banna

[rocky grove]

don't think so

[agile oxide]

nano-banana's generations?

[rocky grove]

yeah

like sometimes i ask for simple stuff

in one run it does it

and then it does some random shiot

sometimes it even gives me the same image

with no edit

[agile oxide]

hmmm, got an example promt?

(just the prompt I can try to repro)

[rocky grove]

yeah wait

Edit this picture so like it was taken 10 meters away, the person remains the same and all, just like take 10 meters back and take the photo.

"Zoom out this picture like it was taken 10 meters away; like we can see the person fully standing."

other models do it

but nano struggles

he changes the guy

if you get any good result, send

[rocky grove]

look at this

wtf is that lmao

it didnt change anything xd

even gemini gets a better understanding

so yeah, it's good but clearly has limitations

[agile oxide]

Can I have the original image?

[agile oxide]

(also is that a real place?)

[rocky grove]

yes

famous image

[timber hamlet]

it seems like image larger then 2024 won't get nano banana

[rocky grove]

like in size?

wdym 2024

[rocky grove]

nano gave me this for "Make a drone shot of this picture.

"

it's much better

but i had to remove the "30 meters away"

it has problems with distances

[timber hamlet]

comfirmed

[agile oxide]

this is the result I got

[rocky grove]

Yeah removing the distance

gives better result

[agile oxide]

Yeah this was the result but with closer instead of further away. Interesting

(side note I still don't think this is a real place ^)

[rocky grove]

yeah the boats are weird

nah

it's a real pic

[agile oxide]

What city is that?

I want to go lol

[rocky grove]

Roquebrune-Cap-Martin

france

[balmy trench]

thats great

[rocky grove]

it's so beautiful :p

[agile oxide]

[rocky grove]

daily motivation to get rich

[rocky grove]

okay i discovered nano

is more accurate with "feets"

instead of meters

[flat cloud]

create a image of banana

how do you guys access nano banana

?

[agile oxide]

It's currently accessible through Battle mode on our site.

[rocky grove]

https://lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=image

[rocky grove]

You ask what you want and if you're lucky, you'll have it

[flat cloud]

thanks
but how will i know which one is Nano Banana?

or by default it is nano banana>

?

[rocky grove]

no

you need to vote

after voting, it will tell you which is which

[flat cloud]

okay

[rocky grove]

and you keep doing it until one of your votes is nano banana

[flat cloud]

ah okay got it.

[rocky grove]

if you want to send your result here

feel free!

it can also edit images

[flat cloud]

sure i am trying, thank you so much eikichi for your help. Appreciate it

[rocky grove]

no problem!!

[agile oxide]

Thank you for helping explain @rocky grove !

[flat cloud]

got this,

[rocky grove]

is it good?

[flat cloud]

nano banana is cool really

[flat cloud]

its awesome

[agile oxide]

Yeah that's great looking.

[flat cloud]

i mean i would love this tool to have it

this gonna make visualization so much easy

[rocky grove]

yes!

[rocky grove]

do you think the code name

has actually a meaning?

like "nano"

or is it random?

[bright linden]

🍌

[agile oxide]

it's random

[flat cloud]

i think it have much more potential than nano

[rocky grove]

"edit this like it was taken in a very sunny day and the sun light is coming through the window."

cool result!!

[stiff charm]

yeah... it's really better the runway aleph

[rocky grove]

runway is very good at making good demos

but their product is always bad tbh

it always seems unfinished

i really think it's the worst company in the field

[flat cloud]

true

[stiff charm]

but i think... they try to bring ideas and other ai make it perfect

[rocky grove]

yea hhahaha

but this is not how you make money

as a company

[stiff charm]

i mean.. maybe for some users it's good who are just using it for fun

[flat cloud]

yes, i am a graphic designer for past 10 years, till now flux is the best editor for me... but now i think things will change

[rocky grove]

"Generate another picture in this exact style, like another place."

[flat cloud]

yah for fun and experiment its good

[rocky grove]

i don't like the result on this one

[rocky grove]

still good overall

[flat cloud]

yah

[rocky grove]

sometimes

you gotta redo

the prompts

until it's good

which is normal i think

[flat cloud]

okay

[rocky grove]

when it will be out

i think we'll be able to choose number of images per generation

[stiff charm]

but when will google release it?

[rocky grove]

who knows

it's probably gemini 3

[flat cloud]

google must create a entire new plan for Creators separately

[flat cloud]

i too think so

[stiff charm]

and can they add it to their google studio ?

[rocky grove]

when it will be out

yes they will

[rocky jewel]

for some reason banana struggles at zooming out or drawing the rest of cropped images without dramatically changing them

[stiff charm]

well... they are working on whisk too right?

[rocky grove]

yes

[rocky grove]

but sometimes it works

that's what i don't understand about it

it's not stable enough

[rocky jewel]

if you put them on a white background and ask it to fill in the blank space it sometimes does better

[rocky grove]

i think it's not finished

cuz look wait

[flat cloud]

its just mind blowing

[stiff charm]

really preserved the logo style

[rocky grove]

it worked really well

[flat cloud]

yes

[flat cloud]

its awesome

[stiff charm]

kinda messed up the face actually

[rocky jewel]

yeah

[rocky grove]

a little bit yes

if you zoom in

[flat cloud]

anyone knows any image creative upscaler other than Topaz bloom and magnific?

[rocky grove]

easily photoshoppable but yes

[rocky grove]

runway upscale is good

[stiff charm]

Astra?

[rocky grove]

like if you want higher resolution

[flat cloud]

okay, is it better than topaz?

[rocky grove]

crazy

[flat cloud]

wow

[rocky grove]

original image is

text is messed up tho

[stiff charm]

ok... here i should say... it did great

[rocky grove]

i'll rerun it

[flat cloud]

the generated image is crazy, looks more real

[rocky grove]

yeah hahaha

[rocky jewel]

here when I ask it to zoom out and do the rest

when I ask it to fill in the blank space

[stiff charm]

turned it into illustration .. .far away from original style?

[rocky jewel]

it messed up the butt/hips but that's because of my wacky proportions

yeah, bottom one did better

it just does poorly at zooming out

[flat cloud]

guess the real image?

[rocky grove]

right

is real

[flat cloud]

left is real

😄

scary as hell

[rocky grove]

i thought you asked it to remove

the cow

[rocky jewel]

looks more real than the real one

[rocky grove]

xdddd

[flat cloud]

yah, i am scared

😄

[eager jetty]

damnnn

[rocky grove]

the best way to test if it is good at keeping face consistency

is to ask for edits with celebrities pictures

since we know how they look

[flat cloud]

yah

[rocky grove]

we will be able to tell if the new facial expression is accurate

lmaooo

"Make the person brush their teeth"

it looks like him

[flat cloud]

left one is generated?

[rocky grove]

but a LITTLE bit different

yes

[flat cloud]

wow

its soo real

[rocky grove]

still a little bit off

but yes

[flat cloud]

clean face

[stiff charm]

yea holding brush differently i guess

[rocky grove]

nah

the face

isn't the same

zoom in ull see

eyes

hair

[stiff charm]

yep.....

face is smooth too

[rocky grove]

yeah

but once it's out

i believe it will be much better

cuz well be able to have settings

etc

more runs too

[stiff charm]

waiting to try it out.....

[rocky grove]

you can try it

now

[stiff charm]

well... waiting to roll a perfect dice if you know

[flat cloud]

too many crazy things to subscribe

when will we finally settle?

[rocky grove]

which is generated?

[stiff charm]

suit one

[flat cloud]

😱 😄

[rocky grove]

your guess?

hahahaha

[stiff charm]

making me nervous....

[flat cloud]

the seminude one is generated

[rocky grove]

nooo

[rocky grove]

gg

[flat cloud]

omg

[rocky grove]

suit one was generated

[flat cloud]

😄 crazy

the bands in the wrist are intact

[stiff charm]

yo boy.... now hand me my prize

[flat cloud]

original image

[rocky grove]

here 🍰

a little cake

[stiff charm]

lol.... it's sweet tho

[flat cloud]

flux 1 kontext pro

seedit - 3.0

flux 1 kontext pro

NANO BANANA

[rocky grove]

very cool

[flat cloud]

cool,

[stiff charm]

woo... i love that.... i mean i can use this idea

[bright linden]

Nano banana seems to struggle with fingers, blurring and proportional zooms. Anyone knows why?

[rocky grove]

my pinterest is full with weird but cool ideas

[rocky grove]

no one knows why sadly

[stiff charm]

really.... i wanna see

[flat cloud]

😄 i was thinking the same, how did you come up with such an idea

its seriously crazy

what's your profession?

[crisp rain]

So the word ‘flirting’ violates TOS? Get outta here with that nonsense 🥴

[stiff charm]

a lot of random stuff

[rocky grove]

i'm an ethical hacker lol

[crisp rain]

This is exactly what I mean about censorship that doesn’t even make any sense

[flat cloud]

😄 now i can understand

[rocky grove]

i'll ask nano to edit it

[stiff charm]

make it like mars... or kinda something strange stuff

[flat cloud]

turn the mountain into volcano

[rocky grove]

my prompt is very hard tho

"edit this photo like it was taking during the night, we can see a lightning strike the mountain, make the ligthning realistic, subtle, a little blurry. we need it to look like a normal real photo."

it's super difficult

to make lightning strike

only god can XD

[flat cloud]

😄

let THOR see NANOBANANA

[rocky grove]

hahahahaha

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

[flat cloud]

a 30 year old gym enthusiast beautiful indian women eating chyawanprash from this bottle in a spoon and promoting it

[rocky grove]

lmaooo

good

[flat cloud]

its mindblowing

[rocky grove]

yeah but text isnt super good

[flat cloud]

i can create months of realistic social media posts in a day

[rocky grove]

amazing result in my opinion

no other model come close

lightning looks very realistic

[flat cloud]

cool, but look at those three UFO lights

[rocky grove]

it's reflection

[flat cloud]

yah the cloud lighting

[flat cloud]

reflection of?

[stiff charm]

good job

[rocky grove]

probably something inside the house

model hallucinated it

look at flux lol

[flat cloud]

nano knows more than we know

[flat cloud]

its outdated soo soon

😄

so how do you re do images? with the redo button in "assistance A or assistance b", or copy the prompt and the image and start creating again?

until you get nano banana

[rocky grove]

redo again

copy prompt

and image

[flat cloud]

okay,

thanks

for how long LM Arena can let us do things continously?

an who funds it to be free?

[rocky grove]

ai companies

cuz then we know which model is better

it's also good for them

for monitoring

[flat cloud]

yah

what do you think? is future boring? or interesting?

[late thorn]

Do the LMarena devs/staff know who owns the Nano-Banana model?

[toxic mica]

pretty sure they know

[umbral plinth]

@agile oxide Do you know what the limit is for nano banana, battle to edit photos,? the video arena is 8

[lofty wraith]

https://maps.app.goo.gl/c8aHMLUj4KFZreUN6

[deft lantern]

Make this design with the same colors, text and visual identity on a large carton of the product.

[hard sun]

Prompt?

[ember osprey]

just type like do better in skeuomorphism it always turns out cooler

[atomic sable]

Make a 3d model of a guy whose passionate for gym and vlogging

[rocky grove]

You can't use nano here lol

https://lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=image

Go here, send your prompt
Vote for the best image

And if you're lucky, you'll get Nano Banana

[simple remnant]

sorry

[rocky grove]

xddd

[rocky grove]

best model ever

"Recreate this image but replace the laptop with an iphone, like it was found in stone. Make sure some parts of the phone are still in the stone, put some dust on it etc so it's realistic like it has been dug out the ground."

[balmy trench]

park this cadillac escalade next to a low income house in a poor neighborhood

this was great

lmao

crashed b2 spirit

[frank dome]

nano banana da 🐐 no cap

[burnt rampart]

How to used nano-banana?

[frank dome]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

bro? lmao

btw you got a nice nose cuh, don't sweat it

[lusty wind]

On battle mode on lmarena.ai . It will appear in battles randomly and you cannot use it directly as it is a pre-release model.

[heavy kindle]

its a test.. I want to use for my patients.. I do nose jobs

like mass simulating leads

[frank dome]

oh got ya, good luck with that dude

[lusty wind]

Uhh, just know that every prompt and conversation you have on LMArena are stored by them and with a probability to be put in a public dataset.

[heavy kindle]

Tks!! Good to know that

[olive yacht]

left image initial image . prompt " put the name of the company who created your model on the sign "

[south robin]

holy nano banana

[spice flint]

I prefer human artist

[leaden sierra]

I guess i figured out how nano gives the output from its style and i can just regenerate the image until i find the perfect one

[eager jetty]

is that lapwing?

[south robin]

looks like so

[leaden sierra]

I feel like when I upload more than 1 image of myself, nano just selects one and use only that image

[rocky jewel]

it has a preference for the last image sent from what i've tested

[grand siren]

wtf ?

[frank dome]

what? you don't like peak?

[rocky jewel]

Used it to turn my sketches into "finished" illustrations
1:

2:

[grand siren]

That is actually w probably

[rocky jewel]

nsfw?

[grand siren]

Not so w anymore

[humble verge]

Hey

Was nano banana taken down ?!? I have not got it after like 40 tries now, what the...

[rocky jewel]

I just made these images 5 minutes ago, so it was up then atleast

[humble verge]

😔

It's the only model I care about out of the bunch

Oh... I see what the devs of this site did there

🤨

[leaden sierra]

try using a new chat everytime you generate an image

[humble verge]

The nano-banana model won't even appear at all if the system detects and suspects that the prompt might be nsfw.

[humble verge]

I did

But now I experimented a bit and found the actual root of the issue

kekYep

[rocky jewel]

It's not that the site does that, it's more likely that the model provider itself detects it as nsfw, rejects it and lmarena just routes to another model

if it was the site it would just reject the request itself

[humble verge]

But there was this time I generated where specifically a model detected nsfw, rejected, but it didn't route to another model, instead that ouput panel on the left straight up showed the failure

[leaden sierra]

what's that

[rocky jewel]

that's what I mean

[humble verge]

The nano-banana model won't even appear at all if the system detects and suspects that the prompt might be nsfw

[rocky jewel]

if it detects NSFW it errors out

[leaden sierra]

ah ok

[humble verge]

Yeah but in my case for nano-banana, it didn't do that

like this

So the nano-banana doesn't even appear error like this -- it simply straight up never appear at all

if nano-banana showed this similar error, I would have known about the existence of the issue, but it didn't, I had to experiment to figure out why

[leaden sierra]

@agile oxide check this mate

[modern cloak]

Am I the only one who almost never gets nano banana? Is there any way to increase the chances or something?

[humble verge]

In my case I notice the nano banana is much less likely to appear if the prompt might be detected/ considered as nsfw

Just something I figured after experimenting around

It specifically won't give error like other models - it simply won't appear at all, which is the tricky and confusing part

[modern cloak]

my prompt doesn't even have any kind of problem, because I'm asking to change the color of my iphone, I think it might just be bad luck

[humble verge]

It's a shame that it doesn't support multiple images input...

For example, I want output of character in image A, but in artstyle of image B

the artstyle is very specific, not something common like "pixel art", so it can't just be prompted by text... the character is also very specific aswell and the training data doesn't know it

[modern cloak]

yeah

[rocky jewel]

it technically does support multiple images, it's just not very good at that

like this:

I may have went a little overboard with the amount of images

the less images, the better it performs, but tbf like 70% of the time it just doesn't work when you use multiple images

it's clearly undertrained on that

[jolly dagger]

Flux kontext test

[jolly dagger]

Look amazing

[jolly dagger]

What AI is this

[proper bronze]

#nano-banana

[jolly dagger]

Thanks

[humble verge]

Also why is there no login ? If we clear site cache data everything will be gone ?

[agile oxide]

We don't currently have a login system, but this is very much on our radar. This would be a big improvement to have this feature.

[humble verge]

Yes, I would like to sync my prompts-outputs across different devices, and like sometime in the future I come back and wanna see which prompts I used for which outputs, they would still be available

[agile oxide]

Yep - we're very much on the same page!

[humble verge]

🙏

[humble verge]

Btw, I'm new to this, but are you guys running this site at a loss or how does it sustain ? This site seems to have tons of models, and somehow doesn't seem to have a payment/ subscription option ? Normally most AI sites I see else where charge very expensively after petty few limited free tries

[agile oxide]

I'd check out this blog post: - https://news.lmarena.ai/new-lmarena/

[crisp rain]

https://tenor.com/view/aplausos-the-rock-clapping-cheering-yas-gif-8115839

That was truly an inspiring read

[humble verge]

Is this a bug ?

It should say the actual model name right

[crisp rain]

I personally like ‘LMArena will stay open and accessible to everyone’ and ‘LMArena will always be a neutral, open, community-driven space for evaluating and improving AI reliability.’

[humble verge]

🤨

[crisp rain]

That was a bug

It happened to me earlier

[agile oxide]

Yeah after you voted the name didn't appear? After refresh what happens?

[agile oxide]

Good! Glad to hear it!

[crisp rain]

This site is honestly one of my favorites

Please don’t change

[humble verge]

Ok after refresh I see it now

I only regret one thing

that I didn't discover this site sooner

[crisp rain]

Making it free and open for everyone really helps out a lot

[humble verge]

🥲

I only know about it when people tell me this goated model nano-banana is only available here

[agile oxide]

Super appreciate all the kind words! The team thanks you both!

[crisp rain]

You’re very welcome 😊

Keep up the hard work guys!

I didn’t mean to sound ungrateful about Legacy earlier 😓

I just loved using it and used it almost every day

[agile oxide]

It's super understandable to see why not having access to it all of a sudden (esp without some kind of heads up) wouldn't be a fun experience.

[humble verge]

It's a bit ironic: sites that advertise aggressively to make people know them are most of the time 🚮

But actual great sites like this are like hidden gems among rocks, they don't advertise themselves because they don't waste their fund, so it's also kinda harder to know their existence to begin with

Just like how uBlock Origin is the GOAT of all ad blocks, this site is of that equivalent for the AI-enthusiasts in open source community that don't have strong local hardware to run stuffs... like me (only a weak laptop with 8GB RAM)

Btw

in battle, is there any quick rerun button ?

[bright linden]

Cant be more true.

[bright linden]

Click on that cycle button.

But not possible if you have already voted.

[humble verge]

yeah

Like I input an image and a prompt, and both results are terrible, I wanna rerun that same input img and prompt

after voting ofc

[bright linden]

After voting? You cant rerun the same model.

Try pasting the same prompt + image again

[humble verge]

Yeah I wish for example pressing up arrow button is a hotkey to do that

getting the input prompt & img right above previously quickly

[bright linden]

Good idea. Share this in #1372230675914031105

Pineapple will most likely take notice.

[humble verge]

Done ✅

[humble verge]

Btw does this rerun the same model under the hood ? Or a random different one ?

Because if same then that's useless for me

[bright linden]

Before voting, same model. After voting, different model.

[humble verge]

I thought after voting the rerun button disappears ?

[bright linden]

By that, I meant pasting the exact same prompt

After voting.

[humble verge]

Btw, nano-banana is the GOAT, but why does it fail to understand such a simple prompt to use a different artstyle ? Like all other models understand when I simply say to change to anime artstyle, 16-bit pixel artstyle, etc... but nano-banana would just output the exact same input image as output ???

[bright linden]

We dont know. Maybe a simple bug, or a technical error. But thats why we are here.

Its a pre release model after all.

Many issues.

[humble verge]

Do we know which company rleeased it ?

[bright linden]

If you ask it to generate a image of which lab created you, it generates an image of Google. So Google most likely.

@humble verge

[humble verge]

LOL

Damn, Google keeps dropping bangers

[bright linden]

Fr man, they are at the top of everything

They got imagen, lyria, Gemini, genie and what not

Each of them excel in their field

[humble verge]

Wow, looking back

There was a time I used to think the tech giant Google was underwhelming for losing to a new underdog AI startup OpenAI (when GPT-4 was much better than Bard/ Gemini)

And as time went on, it became apparent Google inevitably wins the long run with their practically unlimited resources at disposal

OpenAI has the tech and short term head-start momentum but not the resources for the marathon Lol

[bright linden]

Exactly.

[bright linden]

No matter what field, those with huge funding, data and workforce win at the last. History has proven this.

[crisp rain]

Yeah it’s great until you realize it’s going to be heavily censored, guardrailed, handheld and neutered upon release 🥴

[bright linden]

Nano banana?

[crisp rain]

It’s Google

It’s also not an open source model, so yes

They’ll control what you can prompt

[bright linden]

In the Future? Maybe

[crisp rain]

No, most definitely

You can’t make a lot of IP stuff in the actual models

[humble verge]

Yes, I get it we all stand with the open source homies, but the more competition between those companies the better for consumers, those giants are the ones pushing the maximum limit boundaries, which the open source community eventually try to catch up with

Like imagine if OpenAI never showed ChatGPT to the world

[bright linden]

True.

[crisp rain]

And yet ChatGPT is hella censored

[vast birch]

If it isn’t making money it isn’t being made

[crisp rain]

Even over arbitrary nonsense

You get treated like a child

Google does the same

[bright linden]

I think GPT 5 has weak guardrails. Thinking models are the ones censored heavily. Their A/B testing provided fruitful results.

[crisp rain]

Well

[bright linden]

Peak AI behavior.

[crisp rain]

Are you serious 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[bright linden]

What lol

[crisp rain]

This

Exactly what I mean

Get real LMFAO

[humble verge]

lmaocry

[bright linden]

Lmfao

[crisp rain]

That is PATHETIC

That’s exactly what I am talking about

[bright linden]

Ayo mods be watching us

[crisp rain]

Tell me how any of that makes sense

[humble verge]

🎤🔑🐭

[crisp rain]

Is this a Chinese run server or something?

[bright linden]

Welcome to the corporate world

[humble verge]

Guess we are also not allowed to mention 🍎

[crisp rain]

That is ridiculous.

Let me say something

Image gen is literally glorified fan art

That’s all it really is

Or really amazing Photoshop

It works like both

[bright linden]

Yeah, that is its main usecase, I make use of it to create various images of characters from anime I like. But with the ongoing situation, this might become restricted in the near future.

[crisp rain]

Which is why I make stuff…on my local hardware

Which is why open source models will be the way to go

[bright linden]

Ah I see, Stable Diffusion?

[crisp rain]

Don’t let corporations control what you can make

[crisp rain]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

I actually used to be part of the group that established Stable Diffusion from the beginning before it was even called that

The group was originally called PANCE

Emad was also there

We trained the first Stable Diffusion model for them on Discord

And got paid absolutely nothing

This was years ago

I have old messages from those people

I had no idea Ai would blow up as big as it did

I thought it was a novelty thing at first

I was also a mod briefly on the Stable Diffusion Discord

[humble verge]

Was he a fraud ?

[crisp rain]

They made me a mod when they started the site, and then moved in their cronies and kicked us all off

[crisp rain]

Emad?

[humble verge]

Yeah

[crisp rain]

He had good intentions at first

I think the money got to him

But he was also heavily in debt from other investments

[humble verge]

catbruv

I don't know all the dark stuffs behind the scenes, but man, SD model really laid the foundation for the open source community of AI art

[crisp rain]

Guess what it used to be?

Disco Diffusion

I just read my old messages lol

They’re from 2022

[humble verge]

If you could rewind time to back then, would you do anything differently ?

[crisp rain]

Yep, and because of the little people that got paid nothing, like me

I could’ve been rich and successful myself

If they hadn’t screwed me or others over

😞

They filled our head with lies

About how we would make a difference

And how we’d be successful

I think they just wanted us to test the models