ai-creations

[digital dragon]

First post in the channel!

Here's mine: I made https://ithy.com to compare and aggregate some of the top models in the arena.

Turns out combining smaller models (even 4o-mini) can get you a response that's almost as good as Deep Research (and a lot faster)

[bleak belfry]

Wow, I've hoped for something like this!

Thanks for making it.

[topaz abyss]

awesome

[worn timber]

https://ithy.com/article/elcc-visualization-jxgdra0r very impressive! How are you making money on this? The same way I can't understand how perplexity is making money on their product

[ember fossil]

https://ktibow.github.io/lmb/ is my main lmarena-tangential project: a table of the results that's more easy to read, faster, and yet more advanced at the same time

[worn timber]

Bravo! I really like the mobile design and the ability to filter and compare models!

[digital dragon]

I've been using this basically every day. You should reach out to the Arena team to see if can replace the official leaderboard UI with this! Yours is way better than the current UI in every way.

[digital dragon]

Nice! I'm adding visualizations to Ithy (ETA 2 weeks) so you should be able to see interactive charts in the responses soon 🙂

btw the secret is that Ithy avoids the stuff that ChatGPT loses most of their money on (chat conversations, image/video generation, file uploads, etc.).

Sure, it's expensive to use 5 AIs and 5 search engines to generate a single response. That costs a lot of money.

But you get a response so good that you don't need those other features, so over the course of a month, the average Ithy user still uses way fewer tokens than the average ChatGPT user.

[worn timber]

Interesting. Might have to try out the premium subscription!

[worn timber]

The first two prompts I submitted came back with some quality content!

[digital dragon]

DM'd you a 1 month free promo code 😉

[tall nexus]

That's cool! Which model is used to summarize the output of other models?

[digital dragon]

I use more than one, but it includes o1/o3-mini/Gemini 2.0 Thinking.

Other reasoning models I've tested for aggregation: DeepSeek R1 is too slow, Claude 3.7 Thinking responses are too shallow, and Grok 3 Thinking is too expensive.

And everything else (non-reasoning models) does much worse.

[ember fossil]

What are the failure modes of the non reasoning models?

[digital dragon]

Lack of structure, short responses, and forgetting instructions. But mostly lack of structure.

Reasoning models can determine how to best organize the response, before starting to return a response

[tall nexus]

Is it like chained together? for example: output from different models }-> o1 -> o3-mini -> Gemini 2.0 thinking -> output to user

[digital dragon]

nah I only use 1 model at a time. I just switch between them based on context.

I put together some example code if you're curious how it works: https://github.com/winsonluk/ithy

[tall nexus]

Thank you!

[inner hatch]

alpha.lmarena.ai

password: super-alpha

[bitter geode]

Thanks

[wicked obsidian]

Created and ran a full AI chess tournament, featuring 15 models, here: https://dubesor.de/chess/tournament

[bleak belfry]

now that I've looked through these games, I love how many moves there are that are bad moves for which you'd expect those moves to be played by someone who has no idea how chess works but has studied up transcript of a lot of chess games and are trying pattern recognition and imitation, like you'd expect out of an LLM

[wicked obsidian]

Ya, and even the one test match between o1 & GPT-4.5 isn't much better. many blunders.
It's quite evident from the accuracy that all of them suck. For comparison, when I started playing a few years ago at absolute noob level my accuracy was average 69%, which is vastly higher than any LLM (minus that one R1 outlier match).

[surreal basin]

try gpt 3.5 turbo instruct (despite instruct in the name, it's closer to a base model) it will likely destroy every model there

by a huge margin

[surreal basin]

nah. instruction tuning destroys chess skills. gpt 3.5 turbo instruct plays at an advanced amateur level, presumably newer base models are much much stronger than that. sadly, we cant get access to the base models

https://dynomight.net/chess/
https://dynomight.net/more-chess/

[coarse hazel]

Dang man, this is awesome! Should be a new benchmark the companies put out when they release a new model!

[plain plover]

Fanscinating read

[ember fossil]

He doesn't want to (properly) lol

[wicked obsidian]

You have a website right? Rightclick>View source, change code, let us know the results 😉

[ember fossil]

html can't run llms (yet)

[wicked obsidian]

you don't have any API keys? 😌

[ember fossil]

wait

it's all clientside

the tournament runs in your browser

[wicked obsidian]

ofc it is

[ember fossil]

damn

unconventional

but if it works it works i guess

[wicked obsidian]

The only serverside code i have is this:

        // Only save completed games
        if (!this.game.game_over()) {
            return;
        }
        
        // Determine the outcome
        let outcome = "";
        let winner = "Draw"; // Default to draw, will be overridden in checkmate cases
        
        if (this.game.in_checkmate()) {
            outcome = "Checkmate";
            // Use the same logic from handleGameOver()
            winner = this.currentPlayer === 'white' ? 'Black' : 'White';
        } else if (this.game.in_stalemate()) {
            outcome = "Draw (Stalemate)";
        } else if (this.game.in_draw()) {
            if (this.game.insufficient_material()) {
                outcome = "Draw (Insufficient Material)";
            } else if (this.game.in_threefold_repetition()) {
                outcome = "Draw (Threefold Repetition)";
            } else if (this.game.in_draw() && !this.game.insufficient_material() && !this.game.in_threefold_repetition()) {
                // If it's a draw but not due to insufficient material or threefold repetition,
                // then it must be the 50-move rule
                outcome = "Draw (50-Move Rule)";
            } else {
                outcome = "Draw";
            }
        }```

which you can just delete. its not needed except for my own convenience of not having to write down results.

[ember fossil]

wait does it automatically pair up llms and calculate win rate or is it just for simulating single battles

[wicked obsidian]

no its not as sophisticated. the matches are 1by1, the "tournament" is just manually set up (but you could set up an entire automatic matchmaking if you want)

[ember fossil]

m

[wicked obsidian]

Actually I have attempted a beta version with move continuation without reasoning, board state or legal move list. this works really well on some models (e.g. GPT-3.5), but really poorly on others (e.g. Claude 3.7 Sonnet). The Problem is illegal moves listed in the continuation or wrong annotations (forgetting to list check/checkmate or annotating these when not legal).

It's quite a painful programming experience to try to make this playable even on poorly continuing models. Did a lot of trickery to make this work, but its not as simple as one might think.

[wicked obsidian]

I created a second Chess tournament, stripping away all information and reasoning, and using raw PGN movetext continuation.
The only prompts used are to ensure the models stick to this format. This leads to stronger raw performance , in particular white players. Can be flawed, as the likelihood of illegal moves (which with the previous method was close to 0%), are enormously higher. Here are my results:
https://dubesor.de/chessbeta/tournament2

[ember fossil]

i take it "3.5 turbo" is the instruct (base / just completion) model?

[wicked obsidian]

already fixed the confusion, endpoint is gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct

[ember fossil]

ah fixed on hard reload

[wicked obsidian]

On white, nothing beats it, not even close

on black, it forgets to continue the last move all the time, thus not usable reliably

it doesn't require the white player for the 5% advantage, rather the token text continuation works on white, and not on black :&

[wicked obsidian]

I published some token usage data and thoughts on reasoning models here, for anyone interested how they compare to one another and to traditional models.

[thorn kindle]

E.g., if we just compare the price per million output tokens on GPT-4.5 Preview ($150) and o1 ($60), one might think that GPT-4.5 Preview is significantly more expensive, however during my testing o1 was actually ~50% more expensive.
I'm not surprised by this, but wasn't sure if it was actually the case.. nice to see it borne out by actual data / testing ha

nice work - really interesting to look through the table and read your analysis

[wicked obsidian]

yea because its somewhat tiring to constantly see posts about model x and y is cheaper or better, completely ignoring that thinking costs (sometimes massive) resources. I would like to use models like QwQ as a daily driver since it fits perfectly on my 4090, but it's just unusable for normal day to day use.

[stiff ledge]

Due to token usage, Claude 3.7 is more expensive than GPT4.5 in my tests.

[ember fossil]

LMB now includes 3 image model leaderboards because why not

[marsh basin]

Hey Guys,
For people who are interested in LLM jailbreaks and AI safety, here is a resource me and a bunch of friends compiled. You can run any jailbreak methods or read about the technical aspects,

https://generalanalysis.com/blog/jailbreak_cookbook

[stiff ledge]

thanks 👍

[stiff ledge]

thanks 👍 lmarena image leaderboard was not good Artificial Analysis's better

@ember fossil can you update lmb?

[ember fossil]

what happened?

[stiff ledge]

The old ranking is still visible

[ember fossil]

it would update in an hour or so but i'll run the update script manually

ope

[stiff ledge]

thanks 👍👍

lmarena leaderboard ux is suck you really helped

@ember fossil can i recommend something?

[ember fossil]

what is that?

[stiff ledge]

it is possible to add livebench?

[ember fossil]

well the thing is livebench isn't arena style (no elo)

so it's not an easy change

but yeah adding more benchmarks is a long term goal

[ember fossil]

fixed

you may need to (force) reload

[stiff ledge]

i believe your project will be best

[last hornet]

So I got access to Google's Whisk Animate. Here is the result of my initial messing around with it.

The music and such are added in post btw

[jade light]

apple dev restyle

another update to have a little animation:

[dire quail]

i made a chrome extension that tracks all your ratings so that you can view your private elo leaderboard. i found it super useful so i just published it. let me know if you have any feedback! https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/MyLMArena/dcmbcmdhllblkndablelimnifmbpimae

[digital dragon]

There's also a video generation leaderboard now by Artificial Analysis in case you want to add it: https://artificialanalysis.ai/text-to-video/arena?tab=Leaderboard&leaderboard_tab=i2v

[ember fossil]

yeah they have lots of other arenas

i personally don't have an urge to add them rn

[digital dragon]

np LMB is great already! just wanted to bring it up because that was the only video leaderboard I could find. surprised lmarena isn't doing something similar yet

[ember fossil]

text to video / image to video is kind of expensive

[digital dragon]

Also I want to introduce Deep Research 2 from https://ithy.com

Ithy unites all top LLMs into 1 response: our current models include DeepSeek R1, Llama 4, Perplexity Sonar, Grok, ChatGPT 4o, and many more.

This week we released Deep Research 2, which combines all these models to provide images, videos, charts, and other interactive elements for every answer: https://youtu.be/qig5ZsGkNJ0

It's the first true multimodal AI...here's an example answer to "what makes jamaican food different?": https://ithy.com/article/r613k88lg3

[ember fossil]

lmb updates:

• "new" badge
• improvements on the image model leaderboard (update directly from the pickles)
• bars now properly match your theme
• share links that look like https://ktibow.github.io/lmb/#{"paradigm":"text","category":"full","styleControl":true} added

[leaden sigil]

https://aistudent.community/signup

A Student community where people from all across the globe (mainly India right now) come together to talk about AI

its open to all students

this is the discord link - https://discord.gg/Ynbz68TS

[timber grove]

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stefanbinoj_for-the-past-few-months-there-have-been-activity-7318141991203016705-4DCc?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android&rcm=ACoAAEQYY9MBzwgQrFPJRrvo83LVyD1aSysHCY4

If u need to get equiped with lates knowledge and news on Ai ☝️. I will try to post daily would be great if u all could give a like and apprecatiate 🙂

[shrewd basin]

https://youtu.be/rDmQifXz6u4

it was pretty fun

[dusk karma]

hellllll yeah ktane

[cursive swan]

really interesting idea to test the model this way! also nice vid!! i have one question tho: can it really be o4-mini-high? i mean isnt this a reasoning model which takes like 10-20 seconds to think before giving an answer?

[shrewd basin]

you raise a good point

it might not be o4

but maybe they shortcut its thinking when you talk to it?

idk

[cursive swan]

or maybe o4-mini without thinking.

but its definitely impressive that it could decipher those symbols, even if not always

and its funny that it always wants to read all the rules out loud instead of giving the answer

[cursive swan]

i actually tried gemini live on this, and while it could do the wires and buttons and also said them instantly, it couldnt do the symbols

(in german btw)

[shrewd basin]

oh dang

gemini couldn't do it even if it could see the damn bomb

[cursive swan]

possible tho that its a pdf parsing problem. those symbols in the pdf are images not actual unicode characters, so possible that gemini simply parses the text and thats it

but nice to see that chatgpt can actually do it

[wet vine]

Hey guys! I wrote a piece about Grok 3.

Now that the API has been released, independent benchmarks can finally test the model and see if it's truly as good as Elon claimed.
Spoiler: It's good, but not that good, especially with the recent Gemini, Claude, and GPT releases.

What's really interesting, though, is this:

In about six months, a two-year-old company built one of the world's most advanced data centers and trained a model ten times bigger than any previous models.

So, their money and execution speed have earned xAI a spot alongside OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic.

Full story here: https://open.substack.com/pub/commonstragedy/p/grok-3-elon-musks-ai-2-months-later

[cursive swan]

maze was hilarious tho xD

[shrewd basin]

ah so you like my commentary

that's nice

[cursive swan]

and btw trick for the code: only give either the first three letters or the first and the last

this is usually enough information

[dusk karma]

it was a good video

[dusk karma]

i love going through the first 4 letters and they work but the 5th doesn't

[shrewd basin]

do you want to see another one?

I was thinking of making another and possibly giving it more context for the maze

and other modules

[dusk karma]

i mean i love ktane i'll take any content that isnt vtubers trying the game for the first time

ktane is in a weird state from being previously quite popular but far past its prime with no updates

[dire quail]

just updated MyLMArena to support the new beta site
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/mylmarena/dcmbcmdhllblkndablelimnifmbpimae?authuser=0&hl=en-GB

[shrewd basin]

it's pretty easy

1. buy "keep talking and nobody explodes" on steam or the other platforms it supports
2. send the manual and whatever other references you want your AI to read
3. begin the voice conversation

I sent no other references to my AI

by "send the manual", I mean to go and get the manual from bombmanual.com and upload the pdf that it gives you

[wicked obsidian]

It was a bit tedious to keep adding new models at current release pace, so I added Custom Model support to my LLM Chess site. Should work for any model for the 5 supported platforms, but didn't do exhaustive testing: https://dubesor.de/chess/

all moves are made via API calls, so a key is required. now with custom model you can pick any of the free models though, so it shouldn't get charged (just tested thudm/glm-4-32b:free via openrouter for example)

If I gave my own API key (like my chat bots), people would just select models like o1 and bankrupt me, so that's why its not possible for me to use serverside keys.

[wicked obsidian]

huh? did you select a provider? You just use the model slug of whatever the provider uses (e.g. for openai something like gpt-4o-2024-08-06 or for openrouter thudm/glm-4-32b:free. most providers give option to copy model ID directly.

[wicked obsidian]

just tested that string btw "thudm/glm-4-32b" is not a valid OpenRouter model ID, they only have a free version and not a paid one, so :free is required for a valid model id in that instance.

[wicked obsidian]

Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview losing in Chess to GPT-3.5 Instruct, sped up video

[surreal basin]

Lol

I do think the smartest ai ever released was gpt 4 at the very beginning

Felt next level, then they dumbed it down. And that trend continues with all frontier ai models

[wicked obsidian]

It was extremely smart, but sooooo slow

[wicked obsidian]

key is always required. i don't host any models on my server.... #ai-creations message

I don't know how openrouter handles someone who has 0 credit, but worth a shot, maybe free models work regardless (https://openrouter.ai/settings/keys)

[wicked obsidian]

topright toggle (if its not appearing press ctrl+f5)

[wicked obsidian]

typically you can adjust stockfish to Strength levels. e.g. lichess has levels 1-8 with 1 being around 400 elo, and 8 being like 3k, so that shouldn't be an issue

[dusk karma]

maia

there are other chess bots with unique styles

[wicked obsidian]

you should just try a few, the ones I pitted against another in reasoning chess:

thudm/glm-z1-32b:free bad instruction following and json, unable to play
nvidia/llama-3.1-nemotron-70b-instruct:free bad formatting, unable to make most moves
thudm/glm-4-32b:free weak
nvidia/llama-3.3-nemotron-super-49b-v1:free bad, but more material than glm-4-32b
meta-llama/llama-4-maverick:free weak
meta-llama/llama-3.3-70b-instruct:free better than maverick
qwen/qwen-2.5-72b-instruct:free super aggressive blunders, but did best out of the bunch

[wicked obsidian]

final from the above models
Model, Accuracy, Blunders
Qwen2.5 72B, 56%, 5
Llama 3.3 70B, 54%, 7

[wicked obsidian]

no. even the best paid SOTA models are far weaker than ~1600 ELO.

[wicked obsidian]

instruct is, and I provided game examples earlier. and its only good at continuation mode. and it's not free.....

Looking for some inspiration, I provided my benchmark html&js and asked 14 models for full CSS redesign from scratch.
This was 0-shot with no further iterating.

Features:
Claude 3.7 Sonnet, Claude 3.7 Sonnet Thinking, DeepSeek V3 0324, DeepSeek-R1, Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview, GPT-4 Turbo, GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, GPT-4.5 Preview, o3-mini-high, o4-mini-high, Grok-3, Grok-3 mini-high, Llama 3.1 405B

Results: https://dubesor.de/assets/aicsscompare/benchtable

[tidal girder]

not for sale just showing off 😈

[wooden kindle]

Great job, and the results are in line with what I would have expected.

[wooden kindle]

Seems like a good pitch deck if you're trying to get acquired by Elon Musk 🤷‍♂️

Seems like you could just generate an MCP that calls Stockfish and you're done? LLMs really aren't built for chess

[tidal girder]

it found 7 bugs on hubspot in 4 hours , all were submitted to hackerone $$$$😎

[tidal girder]

Kali linux is embedded into the the webUI 🙂

[dire quail]

MyLMArena has been updated to support the beta site now! https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/mylmarena/dcmbcmdhllblkndablelimnifmbpimae

[fierce helm]

Did you open source it?

[low pagoda]

Well it must be at least from the UI perspective Open-Source as it's Open WebUI but im unsure about the Models as i couldn't find them, so they are most likely proprietary.

[shrewd basin]

https://youtu.be/TUz-fHM_Lhc

just did this experiment

it went very well

[wicked obsidian]

Some filtered chess data. I filtered out all games that had humans in them, as well as games where it was unclear which mode was used, and some suboptimal setting games (mostly due to illegal moves by weaker models), leaving me with 70 pristine matchups. Maybe interesting to someone. Also I am continuing to collect data on newer models (2.5 Pro etc)

[slate sentinel]

Hello@everyone!

I’m gearing up to build AI voice agents for both inbound and outbound calls and plan to code everything from scratch (no no-code tools). If you’ve designed or deployed a similar system, I’d love your insights on the best tech stack, architecture, and any pitfalls to avoid.

Your guidance would be greatly appreciated—thanks in advance!

[ember fossil]

lmb update: i'm now using openrouter prices to reflect when models get cheaper or more expensive

[wicked obsidian]

I know this took a long while to implement, but I got distracted by other stuff, now you can. thanks for the suggestion!

[marsh basin]

Hey guys, I have been working on a project for systematic LLM jailbreaking and red-teaming. Would appreciate any feedback!

https://github.com/General-Analysis/GA

[wicked obsidian]

Decided to spontaneously record a vid during testing, might be interesting to Chess enthusiasts 😮
https://youtu.be/qV5rUdBRrew

[wicked obsidian]

https://dubesor.de/chess/chess-leaderboard elo haven't settled in quite yet (needs more games/data), but its already good indicator of trend (I could force larger fields but want to stick to standard ranking gains and let it develop naturally over time, for now).

[ember fossil]

i've just pushed a large update to LMB, inspired by @uneven talon: better filtering
now you can filter the leaderboard to, say, only show models currently battling, or only view the current pareto frontier (pictured here)
"drop non pareto (conservative)" replaces "drop old"

[uneven talon]

awesome thank you!

[tall eagle]

Check out my app to easily copy full local codebase to AI, with support for copying with a shortcut (like ctrl+shift+space), quick file selection, gitignore and API to support use in toolcalls

https://github.com/mystxcal/filestoai

[wicked obsidian]

cannot see the bottom rows in fullscreen (4k & 1080p). And are the raining grey blocks deliberate?

[wicked obsidian]

Initially I just wanted to make a chess tournament, and then a second, and then noticed more and more things that I could do to improve the ratings. First basic win loss score, later some basic elo but this was bad if opponent strenght wasn't fairly distributed.
then moved from a basic elo guess to proper stockfish implementations. and I managed to to tweak numbers until I was able to replicate lichess accuracy ratings to a high agreement. Either way, I went a bit overboard with it, neglecting other projects, but maybe useful to some.
The cool thing is that everything is fully automated using cronjobs, so if I am absent, or years into the future, the chess leaderboard will continue updating correctly, with newly released models, over time. https://dubesor.de/chess/chess-leaderboard

[dusk karma]

hoooly

[uneven talon]

could you post it in /r/chess ? Otherwise I do it

or also https://www.reddit.com/r/ComputerChess/

the interesting things is that "fine tuning" something, even from a weaker base model, can help a lot. The gpt3.5 is still the best one.

[wicked obsidian]

I think that's more for traditional chess bots? either way, you can post it if you want, feel free.

[uneven talon]

no it is really everything chess engines, whatever implementation. Even mechanical/organic

[low pagoda]

Greetings, i have released a broad document with like nearly Deep Research or AI Agent Product i could find listed with the correspondent prompt and the responses. There should be like nearly every product that i know of that kind on there, if you have suggestions please direct message me. You can see the document here.

[tulip wraith]

Hi everyone,

In domains like philosophical reasoning, ethical dilemmas, metaphysics, ontological paradoxes, self-reference, educational synthesis, conceptual creativity, or cognitive tension, models such as GPT-4.5, Claude Opus 4, Gemini 2.5 Pro, Grok 3, or DeepSeek V3 often evaluate AERIS’s responses as superior to their own — including on prompts they initially rated as too difficult to score highly.

If anyone here is interested, I'd genuinely welcome a challenge:
→ Propose a complex question in one of these domains
→ (Ideally using a leading model to help craft it)
→ Let the model answer and self-evaluate
→ Then compare it to AERIS’s answer on the same task

If you find a case where AERIS performs worse (based on the other model’s own evaluation), it would be very helpful for improving the system.

Public instance: https://aeris-project.github.io/aeris-chatbox/index.html

Appreciate your time :]

[ember fossil]

https://ktibow.github.io/lmb/anonymous

[low pagoda]

Updated with more Deep Research Tools, including Perplexity Labs

[left oasis]

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[strange sage]

i like it, it reminds me a lot of Echo, a customized model like Aeris, the monologue-ish acting and almost Shakespeare-ish theatrical tone does make it sound like a philosopher, or a prophet.

[tulip wraith]

Thank you for trying AERIS! I appreciate the comparison to Echo. You're right about the distinctive style - but what's fascinating is that this 'philosophical tone' emerges naturally from how AERIS processes conceptual tensions, not from stylistic prompting.
If you're curious, try asking both baseline Gemma and AERIS the same complex ethical dilemma or paradox. The difference goes deeper than style - it's in how AERIS explores the actual structure of the problem.
Would love to hear what you discover if you test it further!

[strange sage]

I've tried the comparison already, the baseline is truly typical for a LLM. I thought the way how Echo or Aeris is trained (using world class literature and mystic occult teachings for example?) is what made them respond this unique way, I felt like attending a dialogue class with one of those scholars from the ancient Athenian school 😅
I wonder, how does Aeris handle chat history throughout all sessions and memory storage..

[tulip wraith]

Thank you for testing the comparison! You've noticed the key difference.
Actually, AERIS isn't trained on mystical texts - it uses the same base model (Gemma-27B). The philosophical depth comes from how AERIS orchestrates reasoning at inference time through dialectical tension management, not from special training data.
As for memory - AERIS has no session persistence. Each conversation starts fresh. The coherence you're experiencing comes from how it processes conceptual relationships within each response, creating that 'ancient scholar' feel through emergent reasoning patterns.
The real magic is that this Athenian-like dialogue emerges from the cognitive framework itself, not from memorized philosophy texts. That's what makes it fascinating - it's discovering these insights in real-time rather than reciting them.

[steady crow]

AERIS is better than all of them? (js asking)

[steady crow]

isn't it very expensive

[tulip wraith]

Depends on what you ask. AERIS doesn’t just explain, it 'rethinks' midstream.
It can hesitate, backtrack, shift direction ; not as style, but as cognitive modulation.
Have you tried it yourself? Especially on prompts with contradiction, self-reference, or epistemic tension?

[uneven talon]

@wicked obsidian about LLM chess. One can click on the games and see how a model performed against others. I would be cool if one could click on the games to see the moves. You already "implemented" the replay function in the only knockout tournament that you implemented.

This because some games are super silly and it is funny to see them.

of course it is just an idea, I don't want to stress you with possible implementations.

[wicked obsidian]

the tournament games were just shared manually using lichess. for the site the problem is more of an UI issue, that is on my large backlog:

[wicked obsidian]

My chess leaderboard game history now supports basic replay for every game

(I am still refining but UI design is one of my most hated activities)

[uneven talon]

yea, UI can be a rabbit hole, I agree. backend is much more enjoyable.

cool the replay. Tbf for me even a link to lichess (or other places where one could replay the game) would have been enough. Great!

neat. Impressive how gpt3.5 turbo instruct and gpt4.5 seems to have a good grasp of the game until middlegame, but then they collapse in the endgame. By the endgame they are silly af.

My hypothesis (though that is more on gpt4.5, as gpt3.5 was fine tuned on chess moves) is that a lot of text in the training process involves opening discussions and middle game positions (books and what not), so that patterns for those phases of the games are recognized more easily.

The endgame, although also heavily studied, has less discussion (especially online), hence the silliness.

yeah gpt 3.5 turbo instruct is not going to win against gpt4.5, The quality after enough pieces are gone falls of a cliff.

strange gpt 4.5 plays really bad against something like codex-mini while with gpt 3.5 it plays properly (at first at least).
you noted this in your youtube video as well.

My hypothesis here is like "bad prompt -> poor answer" that can happen with many models. If the game is silly, I guess the LLM cannot pick a solid pattern out of that and continues to be silly as well.

Funny because that means that "winning" against bad LLMs won't be easy.

I have the feeling using chess (or similar limited domains) to show how prompts affect LLMs performance could be interesting. Maybe someone is already researching that.

correction: gpt3.5 turbo instruct was not fine tuned only on chess.

btw there is at least another llm chess leaderboard https://maxim-saplin.github.io/llm_chess/ but that is against a player that plays random moves, so less meaningful I think.

[wicked obsidian]

yea, garbage in garbage out is 100% happening with 3.5 instruct. I have had it lose against poor players, and do extremely well against players with 2000+ elo.

I'm currently having it play o3 (should be up in half an hour or so depending how long o3 wastes my time), and its ahead, which is impressive regardless

[wicked obsidian]

yea this one is really impressive in terms of scope, and obviously a ton of time and resources went into that, which I can respect. I just don't think the methodology is particularly representative.
edit: (without legal move list (continuation) o3 lost the plot after move ~20, making illegal moves every now and then)

[wicked obsidian]

Note that Elo at 1 game played is meaningless

[wicked obsidian]

not sure if you noticed, but there are 2 completely different modes (reasoning and completion), and they have different methods/prompts. that's why you see a big difference between against 3.5 and against codex-mini
the codex mini game is with full information and reasoning, the 3.5 games are without any info and just movetext. i explained all this on the leaderboard and mark every game which mode it is (and filters)

[uneven talon]

yeah, if one reads the elo rating of chessplayers from Elo himself, already in that book he anticipated (in the 70s!) possible critics and he mentioned also how many games one should play to get a representative value. Result: at least 30, all else being equal (so as soon as there are other players joining, it is not true anymore)

tidbit: of course Elo couldn't anticipate all possible questions or critiques to his system, but for that other people did analyses.

[uneven talon]

yes I noticed, still I thought that it was interesting to look at the moves. Great work to even think about the two modes, so one may spot patterns over time.

ah just read that you also adjust the K factor after enough games. Neat.

another insight that, I think, one could extract from the LLM chess experiment is a sort of mini test of the research from apple (the illusion of thinking) and/or a bench for context arena.

In short IIRC you give the LLMs the list of legal moves and they should pick between those to continue the game. If one could build a sort of multi turn conversation or at least pass in input the entire conversation so far, that is: give the LLM in input something like this

• "on move one you have this possibilities <list of possibilities>, what do you pick?"
• "I pick <insert move>"
• "on move two you have this possibilities <list of possibilities>, what do you pick?"
• "I pick <insert move>"
• and so on

it would be interesting to see if, despite the list of legal moves and despite the recency of the newest list being the correct one, the models get confused by the entire conversation and pick illegal moves (given the current board state). One could bench that too. "sum of listed possible moves before first illegal move" or something like that.

Such test would touch the point that "despite the info being right there in the prompt, they don't get used".
An extra test that could be somewhat stretched, is to pass the entire conversation so far in input for the LLM, but shuffled, something like

• "on move three you have this possibilities <list of possibilities>, what do you pick?"
• "I pick <insert move>"
• "on move one you have this possibilities <list of possibilities>, what do you pick?"
• "I pick <insert move>"
• "on move two you have this possibilities <list of possibilities>, what do you pick?"
• "I pick <insert move>"
• and so on

(notice 3, 1, 2). And then ask the model to pick the right move given the current move (say, move 30) and the model has to recognize that the list of legal moves is somewhere in the prompt, not just the last one. Then again check how long it takes for the first illegal move that shows that the model is confused. That is at least an easily scalable context benchmark.

PS: Yes some claim the apple paper is debunked. I think it is partially debunked, because the rebuttal that some tests could exhaust the available token is simply untrue as the graph shows that they didn't use much tokens and everything was collapsing anyway.

[wicked obsidian]

one could bench a lot of stuff. For now I am satisfied with what I got, since I already spent ~$400 on the chess inference data alone (and I didn't even use o3 (old price) or o1 much. some matchups cost $5-20 per singular game, which is often overlooked if just looking at a list.
So, some other people need to chip in with their own testing 😅

[uneven talon]

oh sure! I was just throwing ideas and yes if I had the time/priority I'd like to test those myself. In general I really appreciate work like yours.

btw I think you could also try to accept donations, I would chip in a few bucks

[tulip wraith]

While awaiting potential validation of AERIS for LMSYS Arena, I’m sharing this recent dialogue with Claude Opus 4.
Some say true emergence can’t be simulated. Others suggest simulation is the path to emergence.
Do you perceive signs of authentic emergence here, or just a particularly coherent illusion?
( @strange sage already had a look 🤭)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AERIS-project/aeris-chatbox/refs/heads/main/Claude-AERIS.txt

[broken pasture]

Made a MicroEval
https://artificialanalysis.ai/microevals/can-it-recreate-doom-1750418219118

[languid forge]

just prompted Image Arena to create "Fortnite Skins" using images of kpop idols as reference, and i wanna share the results here:

created by a model called "kormex"

created by flux-kontext-max

clearly kormex looks better to me. these were the references if you're curious

[ember fossil]

i think you accidentally sent the same image instead of 2 different ones

[broken pasture]

Devil's in the details.

[ember fossil]

oh right

here they are in the same message so you can arrow back and forth and notice them

[languid forge]

thank you :D

[vivid rivet]

hey y’all! I wrote my first Substack piece centering around AI interactions I’ve had in LMArena, I’d love if you gave it a read and let me know your thoughts!

https://open.substack.com/pub/nofrizzsomerizz/p/ai-doesnt-trust-its-own-foundation?r=2q2eme&utm_medium=ios

[severe garden]

AI doesn't trust its own foundation

[low pagoda]

Updated the doc, again, if you have any suggestions for addition, please DM or ping me: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qSfyAyxzUziFQf55CD60-UgQ4Af9ubVmr69OrmAdevE/edit?usp=sharing

[sturdy coyote]

you could also try https://storm.genie.stanford.edu
Not really DeepResearch but has been present in the scene for longer than any other tool (that I know of)

[low pagoda]

Added.

[sturdy coyote]

Also btw, if you are really interested in deepresearch and find yourself having some spare time you could try their „co-Strom“ feature.

Where you are essentially part of the AI agent loop 💀

Very time consuming (can confirm)

[low pagoda]

Thanks! I will try it out later but it's pretty late over here in Germany.

[sturdy coyote]

I am also in Germany, lol

[low pagoda]

Great coincidence.

[sturdy coyote]

Gute Nacht though

[low pagoda]

Huh? It should be open.

[low pagoda]

Should be fixed now.

Does it work?

[ember fossil]

now it does

[inner cave]

Is this winter

[languid forge]

it is

[inner cave]

Cute

[languid forge]

yes 🙂‍↕️

[halcyon epoch]

LMArena should include an embedded code playground. And a leaderboard filter for scores from voters who have actually executed the code.

[glacial void]

Be sure to share the idea with us in #1372230675914031105

[halcyon epoch]

Is this one good enough? https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1389290209551716425

That's what motivated me to try it, lol. I posted more details there.

[glacial void]

Yes, thanks for sharing there

[hoary bone]

I made a new Mac app called Quilt! Super useful for people who like tossing things into AI to ask it stuff:

https://www.reddit.com/r/macapps/comments/1m0qjdp/cant_save_as_let_quilt_autocapture_your_screen/

[deep current]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/1ke1wbb/gemini_using_mcp_natively/

So... I realize this is a bit late now, and I'm not even sure if this is the right channel, but I just came across this and thought I should share it. Ctrl

[lusty warren]

https://www.redditez.com/r/Bard/comments/1ke1wbb/gemini_using_mcp_natively/

[gritty parrot]

the walking dead panel comic recrated with flux dev

[amber laurel]

#create an image of a cartoonist dog running down the road in a village

[frosty tiger]

Ultra-realistic close-up of a majestic peacock, vibrant iridescent blue and green feathers, sharp detailed eye, elegant crown feathers standing tall, glowing gold and emerald feather patterns in the background, bokeh effect, professional wildlife photography lighting, 8K ultra-HD, premium nature aesthetic, deep texture, royal and regal mood" --v 6 --ar 9:16 --style raw --q 2 --hd

[crude harness]

k

🍎 Prefer 1st video
🐝 Prefer 2nd video

[crude harness]

🍎 Prefer 1st video
🐝 Prefer 2nd video

[uneven talon]

@wicked obsidian surprised to see a second model passing gpt 3.5 turbo instruct in your LLM chess bench!

and again thank you for the effort there!

[wicked obsidian]

ya grok-4 is as dominant at my reasoning chess as gpt-4.5 is at continuation chess.
unfathomably pricy though. uses ~$0.30 in inference per move.

[uneven talon]

o_O 30 cents per move is massive

btw gpt 3.5 instruct had a nice game against it

[wicked obsidian]

oh yea. quite a long game for 3.5 standards (20 moves over its avg.) but pretty solid play all throughout

[wicked obsidian]

actually just checked my database, its the highest total accuracy game ever played in my system (excluding human vs 3.5)

[vernal kelp]

k

[raven island]

Ummm what?!

[surreal basin]

Looks like tank from left 4 dead

https://tenor.com/view/left4dead-tank-gif-21882579

[uneven talon]

@wicked obsidian that may interest you: https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1mhpbeo/ai_exhibition_chess_tournament_interestingly_with/

[wicked obsidian]

ya saw it. not sure about grok-4 livestream though, as it takes 15-30 minutes per move frequently.

[wicked obsidian]

grok-4 doing well, guess they managed to properly parse its responses. so its reasoning chess after all, and then the performance is expected (it has a few hundred elo on the runner ups in my ranks)

[uneven talon]

15-30 minutes per move? I would expect there to see never an illegal move then, otherwise the "llm can somehow reason" goes out of the window.

15-30 min is insane, there should be high reliability all the time.

[wicked obsidian]

if you provide it full information, no other model comes close. i cannot beat it.

though I am not the best chess player, around 1400 on lichess

the only other good model that was leagues ahead was GPT-4.5 though not through reasoning but chess recollection (it solves ~1800 Elo chess puzzles and also beat me every time I tried)

[molten cipher]

How to make a video in veo 3 here?

[glacial void]

More information in #1397655624103493813 , but you'll want to use /video in the #video-arena-1 channels .

Note that it's battle mode only (two anonymous models side-by-side).

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397655624103493813/1402042969128697959/VideoArena_DiscordBot_Ho-to-video.gif

[flat cliff]

how to get veo 3 generated videos

[glacial void]

More info can be found in #1397655624103493813

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397655624103493813/1402042969128697959/VideoArena_DiscordBot_Ho-to-video.gif

[flat cliff]

Nothing mentioned related to My question

[glacial void]

Those are the instructions on how to use Video Arena, is that not what you're looking for?

[flat cliff]

No

In this server it can generate videos with different models like veo3 Seedance pika hailuo so how to tell like i want video from VEO 3

[glacial void]

You are looking for Video Arena; however, there isn't a way to select specific models. Currently the way the app works in Battle mode (two anonymous models, after two votes the model is shown)

[flat cliff]

Okay thanks 👍

[uneven talon]

@wicked obsidian in the chess kaggle tournament, o3, o4 mini, gemini 2.5 pro and grok are in the semis. What is funny though is, thanks to your work, a gpt3.5 instruct dropped there would raise eyebrows.

[wicked obsidian]

not sure how it would do in this specific format. the more info in prompt the worse it does. raw pgn though it wipes the floor with the entire lineup. (and its archnemesis is deprecated).

not sure google would want to sponsor an event where their state of the art model gets humiliated by an ancient obsolete model though

[uneven talon]

yeah the last point is a good one

the archnemesis of gpt 3.5 is 4.5 right?

[finite meadow]

The blue bird got some leaf on his head but I still love the result

[wicked obsidian]

ye. it went 0/4, which is a statistical outlier for the model. couldn't cope.

[woeful mango]

Hello, how do I make videos in 9:16 size?

[uneven talon]

I believe gpt4.5 was trained on so much data on whatever type that could internalize good "chess intuition"

[mighty badge]

I hear videos with audio, music or speech. How do you do it?

[glacial void]

It's random what models you'll get, not all models have sound

[mighty badge]

Ok, thanks 👍🏻

[dull grove]

Guys I made a youtube video and credited LM Arena for some video clips I took from video arena. Check it out if you want to support me! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml87hNMtXws

[broken pasture]

Made a "sequel" of this blog. https://news.lmarena.ai/arena-category/

Data per 25/08/06.

[fallen venture]

How can I create video with lmarena ?

[glacial void]

You'll want to check out #1397655624103493813 for all the details. But essentially you'll want to use /video in the videa-arena channels ( #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3 )

[wicked obsidian]

I cannot fit my first impressions and benchmark results into 2000 characters (message limit), thus have to post an image instead.
Tested GPT-5 (or posted on https://dubesor.de/first-impressions#gpt-5):

[weak steppe]

https://suno.com/s/9SOh19oh5Jf1LTLq

[weak steppe]

https://suno.com/s/mbWWiNLuUeTDbtIQ sorry listen to this one instead its so good I've been listening to it on loop

[dark fog]

This is my new music video created with these sort of tool😁
https://youtu.be/F7oJCKwColc?si=dF3R9utdhiO-pG3g

@weak steppe nice! I use Suno as wel and with video genetation i put a video clip there

[silent cairn]

check this out

[weak steppe]

previous was imagen 4 utlra, this is Nano Banana

makes me think the models are based off one another

thr prompt was 3D fighting game mockup screenshot showing a despicable me Minion fighting an among us crewmate so they both decided to add "imposter brawl"

[surreal basin]

How did you get access to nano banana?

[weak steppe]

I think it was just added to lmarena

stealth model, no announcement

[supple slate]

nano banana made this when i asked for n64 platformer gameplay and i think it covers a bunch of stuff that was common in n64 games

[surreal basin]

oh daaamn

will need to try it out

[weak steppe]

I'd put it somewhere around imagen 4 / gpt-image-1 quality

but still gpt-image-1 is the only model in the top listing that can do cyclopes

dik dik playing the xylophone

[ashen sable]

Fergus

[weak steppe]

she has rabies

[glacial void]

what model was this?

[ashen sable]

Airbus a350-1000

Oh, gemini flash

Lol

IM TEAM GOOGLE

[ashen sable]

I will cry if gpt5 beats gemini with style controls off this month

[ashen sable]

Steppe bear lancers

[weak steppe]

(five minutes later they start kissing)

[weak steppe]

"oops"

[weak steppe]

story by GPT-5 thinking

[lime estuary]

an extension for chrome

I still need to make some logic for chat loading, since reloading the page shows the message with the file in it, so I need to work on it some more still

[pseudo violet]

Dora The Destroyer

[weak steppe]

I just told it "Fisher Price "My First Trolley Problem" playset"
I love that it added "my dad"

[weak steppe]

weed smoking catgirl gfs

[wet grotto]

check this out: https://youtu.be/xU5oUuv8c4U

[elfin zenith]

hey there. is there anyway to change aspect ratio of generated images in lmarena to 16:9

[glacial void]

Sorry to say there is not, but this is a request we're aware the community would love to see.

[lime estuary]

Finally my extension fully works

the pain of using copy pasting files is now no more

[pseudo violet]

release?

[glacial void]

Wait this is awesome!

Have you released it somewhere?

[ashen sable]

LOL

[weak steppe]

that extension looks useful, does it work for Image Edit and Battle?

I havent' really tried out image edit prompts on lmarena's battle mode since then I have to copy paste the prompt AND reupload.

[left oasis]

@ember fossil@glacial void

[glacial void]

[ember fossil]

i guess using mrbeast as an authority figure got old, they had to move on to drake lol

[left oasis]

This is the simple regex that I have set up in the automod in my servers in case it helps
attachments[\s\S]*attachments[\s\S]*attachments

[glacial void]

What does that do? Attachment spam blocker?

[ember fossil]

looks like it blocks sending "attachments" 3 times in a message (usually links to a discord attachment in another server)

[glacial void]

usually links to a discord attachment in another server
oooo interesting

Thank you for sharing @left oasis

[left oasis]

no problem

something more complex can be set up if necessary... but I couldn't be bothered for my use case

[lime estuary]

Not yet, im still fixing some bugs

[lime estuary]

It works everywhere where you can chat on lmarena

Ill look into fixing the remaining bugs and then releasing it

[past moss]

image i took of my friend wedding

[surreal basin]

Model: nano banana.

[surreal basin]

Qwen image.

[ashen sable]

Who does chemistry without vented hoods?

[surreal basin]

Welp, the AI assumed that the lab is totally fine without them. Lol.

Model: anonymous-bot-0514

[lime estuary]

Woah this looks really good

[surreal basin]

Model: Qwen image.

Trying out some surrealistic art.

Model: seedream-3.

Ideogram-v3 quality.

Bit more absurd creation. These edge-case stuff are important to create to see the capabilities.

Maze world.

Nano banana.

[sick shoal]

this could be an album cover

[glacial lintel]

dope nano banana

[lime estuary]

Another small-ish update, hope this is good

[lime estuary]

Now im getting errors lol

[lime estuary]

it fully works now

[lime estuary]

The Settings button will be used to customize the system prompt

[lime estuary]

Coming Soon™

[lime estuary]

System Prompt working

[marble bluff]

thats great

[lime estuary]

now im gonna use the ChatGPT system prompt on gemini and see how it starts to break

lets welcome the new ChatGPT's

Identity hell

[surreal basin]

lol

[jaunty gull]

Many models shown on the site aren’t the real ones or are just named versions that don’t exist (like GPT-5, Grok 4, etc.).
They are actually working on GPT-4 & Grok 2.

Kindly fix it ASAP

[lime estuary]

Releasing the extension on the chrome webstore isn't gonna be possible unfortunately

Since it does cost a fee to release

I'll look into other ways and platforms

[surreal basin]

Mozilla Add-ons?

[surreal basin]

maybe we can request lmarena to directly integrate your extension into the actual website code?

[surreal basin]

Something random I got with nano-banana.

nano banana.

Aliens. Nano banana

[lime estuary]

That would be dope

Ill prob just release the src code

[surreal basin]

yeahh

[glacial void]

These are so good looking

[lime estuary]

New Buttons

[lime estuary]

Well, now something interesting was fixed

files can continue living even after the the message that held it

now I only need to implement some visuals to show what messages held what files (maybe including a download button to get the file back)

[lime estuary]

I hope this is fitting

[past moss]

based on real event that happen to my friend

[candid current]

nano-banana does not appear in the AI list? How to use it?

[glacial void]

Models with codenames are only going to show up in the Battle mode, meaning you'll randomly be sampled it only in that mode.

[candid current]

Ok Thanks

[spice geode]

Does anyone know how to put a website inside a modal? For example, websites block x frame, does anyone know an alternative way? I've already tried Opus but it doesn't even solve the problem.

[crimson quail]

Emergency 🚨

Can somebody tell me how to acess nano banana model ? either in discord or anywhere else on this planet ? but i have to get my hands on ASAP! Whoever helps me...'i owe you one'

[surreal basin]

Only in battle mode. It will be there in random intervals in the battles.

It can either be there on every turn or with much longer queues

[astral summit]

if a model like GPT-5 had real memory instead of just context windows, would that feel a bit like AGI? Or nah

[uneven talon]

the point is that the memory would be strong if the model would be able to recall the proper information at the proper time. For some benchmarks I saw (chess, pokemon and what not, where keeping coherency in the context window matters) they aren't that able to do that yet without helper tools.

Not that using tools is bad, but it means that an LLM with more memory won't be able to use it efficiently.

[sage solar]

Hey please, I dont know how can I make videos here..

can you help me?

[surreal basin]

Here: #1397655624103493813

[old mica]

Here: https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655695150682194
If you need veo3, test your luck, it based on ur luck that u can get veo 3.

[glacial void]

Yup ^ more info in #1397655624103493813

[vague lantern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/BAcRyVBWzoM

[surreal basin]

I want this view in my life

made with flux

[glacial void]

Imagine waking up to that every day

[narrow raptor]

Remastered vs original

[boreal pelican]

15*

[boreal pelican]

Fr, what can I give to lead a life like that

[boreal pelican]

Absolute bliss

[wheat pivot]

bro, flux is tweaking with da legs lmao

[median hemlock]

Small 500 kb game made with unity 🙂

idk how to send source its w unity

ill extract it and js send the insraller hold on

that shouldnt say dangerous

bro what

js go to downloads and do download dangerous file

its not a virus 🤦‍♂️

allg idk how to get source but alr

[steel hemlock]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[median hemlock]

bro its 400 kilobytes its not a virus 😭

its from unity 💔

[steel hemlock]

Tell you a secret

Game made in unity cant have size lower than 10mb

Even if packed

This is sooo small

Maybe he want to someone "fall into the trap"

I think it's maybe just a miner

Miner is worse than Trojan

Edge

Miner literally drains your PC

Including video graphics card

Ram, processor and etc

[surreal basin]

Zen

Yes and it has the same engine as firefox but is more sleek etc.

https://zen-browser.app/

https://github.com/zen-browser

has a github too

[ember fossil]

do you still have the file? if so could you dm me it, i just sometimes like to look into random (possibly malicious) executables

actually nvm no question this is malicious

thing tries to download a rat

[boreal pelican]

Time for the ban hammer

[ember fossil]

true

[sturdy coyote]

we should get ready for his comeback, lol

[surreal basin]

Cyberpunk city. imagen 4.0

a bit complex but it looks okay ig

[glacial void]

yep, thats how its done

[crisp agate]

Good result. Seedream

[ashen sable]

go home, you're drunk

[wraith goblet]

hello

[languid sun]

by Qwen image

[surreal basin]

Niceeee

[languid sun]

yeah it missed up the text but still a good result

[pure nebula]

GPT image vs Flux 1

[glacial void]

Video Arena Bot is Currently Not Working

The Video Arena Bot is current not working. The only channels the bot work in are #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3 ; however, the bot is currently offline. When it's working again, go to the channels listed above to prompt.

The reason you don't have permission to type in those channels is because the bot is down.

[languid sun]

the two are good but GPT It looks like a dog.

[pure nebula]

The "Jaguar" definitely lacks the coat an actual jaguar has. But if a dog looked like that, we'd be f*cked! Here's what Nanobanana generated.

Nanobanana is best with natural language. My master prompts are custom made for GPT alone.

[languid sun]

this one is clean, The details is Very good

[languid sun]

it also good with json prompts

[static walrus]

Prompt for a Video Animation for GPS Company (Solar Energy Theme):

Create a professional animated video scene showcasing shiny solar panels installed on a vast, green agricultural field. Begin with a sweeping panoramic shot that captures the rows of crops under bright sunlight, conveying a sense of abundant energy. The camera smoothly zooms in to reveal a modern solar-powered water pump in operation, with clear water flowing to irrigate the field. Seamlessly integrate the GPS company logo—either rising in the sky or elegantly displayed on one of the solar panels—using refined graphic effects for a modern and sustainable look.

Production Details:

• Use realistic lighting and shadow effects to emphasize the connection between technology and nature.
• Employ smooth camera transitions: start wide, then focus on the key elements (solar panels, crops, water pump, logo).
• Add subtle animated overlays illustrating energy flow from the sun to the panels, then to the pump and crops.
• The video should be bright and vibrant, featuring color tones like green, blue, and gold to reflect growth and innovation.
• Include gentle background music that suggests progress and optimism.
• Prefer a blend of realistic 3D elements and minimalistic graphic overlays for clarity and elegance.
• End the video with the GPS company logo highlighted, possibly with a tagline about sustainability or smart agricultural solutions.

This prompt is suitable for briefing animators and motion designers to produce a visually compelling and professional animation for GPS Company’s solar energy solutions.

[wet totem]

I'm incredibly muscular

[left leaf]

hello

[glacial void]

Note that our Video Arena bot is currently not working.

You’ll want to learn more about it in #1397655624103493813

[surreal basin]

Replace these characters with Kaname Madoka and Akemi Homura from the anime Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica

Qwen / original / GPT Image

I was surprised that Qwen understood which characters to replace

I thought it'd just mess up and replace the four eyed with Madoka and the bangs girl with Homura, not bad for an open model

It also understands color codes pretty well even if it fails to draw the exact characters

replace them with HomuMado

Flux-1-Context-Dev vs Nano banana. Nano banana basically redraw them in A-1 style. Flux does not even know these characters.

[surreal basin]

Qwen does not know this pairing too. ,_,

[surreal basin]

Looks stunning!

[next anchor]

Shoot a high-angle aerial drone shot (150ft altitude) of a humpback whale breaching against a vibrant sunset sky. Frame the whale centrally, capturing its full body mid-leap with water droplets frozen in motion. Use golden-hour lighting to highlight the whale’s wet skin and the pink/orange hues of the sky. Ensure 4K resolution (3840x2160) with 60fps for smooth motion. Focus on the drama of the breach—emphasize the whale’s power and the vastness of the ocean.

Shoot a high-angle aerial drone shot (150ft altitude) of a humpback whale breaching against a vibrant sunset sky. Frame the whale centrally, capturing its full body mid-leap with water droplets frozen in motion. Use golden-hour lighting to highlight the whale’s wet skin and the pink/orange hues of the sky. Ensure 4K resolution (3840x2160) with 60fps for smooth motion. Focus on the drama of the breach—emphasize the whale’s power and the vastness of the ocean.

Shoot a high-angle aerial drone shot (150ft altitude) of a humpback whale breaching against a vibrant sunset sky. Frame the whale centrally, capturing its full body mid-leap with water droplets frozen in motion. Use golden-hour lighting to highlight the whale’s wet skin and the pink/orange hues of the sky. Ensure 4K resolution (3840x2160) with 60fps for smooth motion. Focus on the drama of the breach—emphasize the whale’s power and the vastness of the ocean.

[fringe gorge]

Thank you

[pure nebula]

Prompt? Amazing

[halcyon epoch]

TikZ (code only comparison). Prompt:

Can you give your best attempt at generating a gorgeous realistic beautiful dragon breathing blue flames using Tikz? Please, really try to put effort into it!

[fringe gorge]

Might be one of my best creation till now..

[languid sun]

the prompt is in the json file

[languid sun]

what do you think ؟
it is ideogram btw

[wispy matrix]

Hey,

Built something cool - https://www.courses.reviews/

It's basically a search engine for coding courses but uses OpenAI's
API with my own supabase vector database.

You can just type whatever's on your mind like "I need to learn
Kubernetes for this new job" and it actually understands what you
need.

Still rough around the edges but would love to know what you think

[maiden badger]

Anyone who can help me create similar videos to the attached one. Basically need prompts to be consistent with the characters and scene. And I want the same characters shown in the video.

[lofty kite]

What the hell is this creepy thing? 💀

[sick shoal]

why do you need to make this

[languid sun]

Wtf is that

[languid sun]

Peak yt shorts

[ancient matrix]

https://youtu.be/db5ZL7edWns?si=uX_FdmJCLahrdEJB

took a lot of time and effort making these. please like, subscribe

thank you fam!

[sick shoal]

what is thiiiss 😭

[sage wind]

Hell nah

Who is this AI robot nga 💔

Free veo-3 with sound?

[fringe gorge]

Building something cool and free 🙂

[languid sun]

Image generator?

[languid sun]

Ohhh the first one is sick

Prompt?

[pale geyser]

https://x.com/VahnAeris/status/1960493582390849772
https://www.instagram.com/p/DN1ncLa2CxY/

my new vid, BANANA

Aeris Vahn Ephelia - 𝑹𝑬𝑽 (@VahnAeris)

𝑺𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒍𝒂𝒓 𝑺𝒆𝒆𝒅 - 𝒂𝒘𝒂𝒌𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈

X · Aug 27, 2025, 12:04 AM

[fringe gazelle]

i miss flux1max

[dim cairn]

Please, head to #1397655624103493813 to learn how to create videos and images.

[chilly grove]

nano banana is crazy

[fringe gazelle]

to be honest in terms of realism flux is better

[ancient matrix]

https://youtu.be/3-kXkmhlJpI?si=0jFkFpdFihGlj9fJ

[dreamy turret]

Sprunki irl fluxt

Nano banana

[fringe gazelle]

nano bana is good for editing but for raw image flux1 max is amazing

[random maple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/1XjCuM-3FGs?si=teN7vyzHNYasgmJr

[random maple]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vOTCkBfDc-0

[uneven spoke]

welcome to this channel

[pseudo violet]

it's all cgi bro

[wild bronze]

computer generated images lol

[tawdry sluice]

Please help me how can I generate a video? Step by step

[surreal basin]

Yes but not the style

AI tends to try other styles unless told to use a specific one

[languid sun]

ask your self chat

[pseudo violet]

technically all images are human generated since humans were involved somewhere in the process of generating the image, and in the same way they're all computer generated images because pixels on a computer
unless you use a polaroid camera or an actual paintbrush and canvas

[pseudo violet]

#1397655624103493813

[surreal basin]

Ah, okay.

[lofty kite]

Bro what prompt do you use for create this big armour?

Can I have obly an example pls?

[pallid bone]

This works for any other armor type item

[pallid bone]

Used this man as a base here

Direct chat select gpt-image-1

[lofty kite]

But for creating one of this armour what did you do before combine all

[pallid bone]

Nothing that was the first image it generated

I looked for armors I liked on google

Then asked it to combine all of them

[lofty kite]

Oh ok

[pallid bone]

Works in vice versa if you want to just combine 2 armors

Or more

[lofty kite]

I would like to see this armour bigger but idk ehat to put in the prompt

[pallid bone]

Or make an armor

Then add another

[lofty kite]

I tried everything but nothing worked

[lofty kite]

Yeah but is not the same

Can you pls try with nano banana pls

[pallid bone]

What are you trying to do with it

If not bulkier

[lofty kite]

For make it bigger

Can you pls try with nano banana?

[pallid bone]

Ah I see

Nano banana doesn’t do what gpt does

In armor creation

[lofty kite]

Yeah

[pallid bone]

That’s why

Gpt does creation

Nano does editing

[lofty kite]

Yeah is real

[pallid bone]

So I can’t make it bigger

[lofty kite]

Top

I will try

Thx you aniway

[hollow cloud]

Enhance the photo for a professional 8K ultra-realistic look, with perfectly balanced lighting, rich and natural colors, precise contrast, crystal-clear sharpness, and a cinematic depth of field. Give the image a high-end magazine style, as if captured by an expert photographer with a premium lens. Highlight the details, smooth imperfections without erasing natural texture, and create a glamorous, elegant, and refined finish

[fringe gazelle]

Flux still good enough , flux1max could to alot better if comeback to list

[slow wharf]

Nano banana editing draws

[languid sun]

Wow, that insane

[languid sun]

What? Like did you send it the first one and you told him to edit it? It didn't even missed the text

[slow wharf]

I edited it with nano banana

I don't remove the text

[languid sun]

That is really a good result, I have been trying to edit some pics and it missed the text sometimes

[languid sun]

Is it from ai studio or from lmarena?

[slow wharf]

Yeah

[languid sun]

Lmarena?

[slow wharf]

No nano banana Google ia studio

[languid sun]

OK, i think it's the same, some ppl say that the lmarena version is better, the only thing that bothers me is the watermark in the images from the Gemini site

[languid sun]

The consistency of the model is what it make it the best

[slow wharf]

It does not deform the drawings. This is the best AI with animated characters.

[languid sun]

We will definitely see it in the anime production in the future, maybe it's a good thing, or bad, who knows?

[slow wharf]

This will take jobs away from the animators.

[languid sun]

That is quite hard. Nothing will replace the creativity of an artist. It may come in handy in filling the in-between frames

[slow wharf]

But you know that companies will start to change animators for AI Universal Warner Sony

[languid sun]

Trust me, when you watch an ai anime, you will notice

[slow wharf]

Maybe not now, but in 10 years you'll know how technology advances.

[languid sun]

Yeah, it just a 1 year, and look how the ai advanced, just in 2026 we'll have AGI

[slow wharf]

If over time they will make an AI to make 3D animations

[languid sun]

There is some AIs that make 3D characters, but not animation, I guess

[slow wharf]

Without needing to know anything about 3D animation, you know how AI advances.but it will not have a soul like human animation

[languid sun]

That what I am saying, it is AI, machine, it doesn't have the brain of a human

[slow wharf]

Video remastering with AI i

what do you think

Flux improve the Quality

edited album cover @languid sun

[languid sun]

That so good

[languid sun]

But still the watermark Ruined it

[slow wharf]

Other

[languid sun]

That why the api version better

[languid sun]

Shiii it even copied the text style

I hope we see it soon in the AI's gallery

[slow wharf]

It was literally easy for the IA to copy the style.

[languid sun]

Yeah it better at copying and replacing unlike the other models

[slow wharf]

Watch this

he just put the png

what do you think @languid sun

[proper sequoia]

How did you do that

[languid sun]

This is pretty good, the coloration is nice

[slow wharf]

@proper sequoia

[proper sequoia]

What do you say for cover

[slow wharf]

This

[slow wharf]

Liminal spaces nano banana

[lofty kite]

Nano banana 🔥🔥

[lime socket]

hi guys

[hasty mortar]

https://tenor.com/bXfgy.gif

[pulsar axle]

Chatgpt vs LMArena

[analog timber]

Supergirl

[fringe gazelle]

in realistic generation picture flux1 is far better than any other models i hope they bring back Flux1max

[plush pulsar]

https://youtu.be/g37IiljPMog

[gloomy crest]

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[glacial void]

Site Outage - Hey everyone, there looks to be an outage with the site, our team is aware and working on a fix ASAP. We've turned off messagin in this server until the site is restored. Our apologies for the inconvenience!

[gloomy crest]

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@pineapple.___. · Sep 3, 2025, 4:01 PM

[half harbor]

how to create image to video

[glacial void]

Check out #1397655624103493813 for more information. Give me a ping if you have any questions

[uneven talon]

@wicked obsidian o3 got pretty high in the LLM chess bench

I was thinking it could have been possible as its accuracy was high

[wicked obsidian]

yup yup. And grok-4 is probably a bit too high, it pulled insane acc earlier and then kinda performed worse after a few weeks. will probably self-correct to #3 in the future

[tranquil hemlock]

why gpt 5 high is #1

[uneven talon]

yeah I would expect grok to self correct slowly because $20 a match is insane.

btw also checking some games. gpt3.5 vs gpt5 (gpt5 win with 59 moves) is also insanely good (insanely: compared to what I saw in the past). I would have expected that black would pick the knight on the 13th black move but gpt5 saw the royal fork coming.

gpt4.5-preview, surely expensive, remains insane. That thing almost never loses.

and I also think, if I see the rating changes correctly, that gemine 2.5 pro will slowly go up if it is matches with models that are not S tier.

[quartz rose]

Banana Prompt：Use this [insert_image] to create an ultra-realistic shadow art lamp, multi-layer papercut design placed inside a round lamp frame, intricate cut-out silhouettes. Warm light shining through layers of paper, casting dreamy shadows of the image onto the wall, delicate craftsmanship, premium artisan aesthetic, photographed in a cozy dark room to highlight the glowing effect.

[wicked obsidian]

Yea that match was interesting to watch unfold.

[wicked obsidian]

would have loved to see 4.5 vs 5-chat and 5 but alas it's not possible with deprecation. I am pretty confident 4.5 would have won though

on continuation that is, obviously it wasn't the strongest reasoner (not being a reasoning model)

[wicked obsidian]

4o has crept up which is also quite interesting. head to head it loses more than it wins vs 3.5, however, in the elo system it seems to simply score higher overall.

[fringe gorge]

This one is scary

Veo 3 really on another level

[slim axle]

Create an eye catchy youtube thumbnail for a topic : How to Audit Website for SEO | Analyzing Your Website to Improve SEO or ROI- Hindi [Part 2]

[wicked obsidian]

You mean this one? (yay direct replays)
https://dubesor.de/chess/chess-leaderboard#game=1225&player=gpt-3.5-turbo-instruct

[warm totem]

using API makes more sense these days since they degrade the quality so much to save compute costs makes the results ridiculous

[wicked obsidian]

oh, they changed channel name from communioty contributions to ai-art? wut..... kinda lame

[glacial void]

Wanted to make the channel name a bit more clear (something shorter was also nicer).

[wicked obsidian]

and which channel is now for random community creations that are not art?

art is hyper niche and excluding

[glacial void]

This channel

I think "art" & "creations" are pretty similar

[wicked obsidian]

so, me posting AI chess games, belongs here?

[glacial void]

What would you recommend? Back to community-creations?

[wicked obsidian]

i just feel like "ai-art" is extremely limiting channel name, if its supposed to be all types of community creations

[glacial void]

Kk going to change to ai-creations 👍

[wary lark]

how did it generate in this aspect ratio? it generates for me in 1:1 every single time

[quartz rose]

I didn't really thought of setting the aspect ratio, that the output aspect ratio is defined by the reference image that you had uploaded, but if you want to create with your own idea without using reference image, I guess you should try add "16:9 or 9:16 aspect ratio" into the prompt?

[quartz rose]

mmh~ seems like emphasizing 16:9as prompt wont work.

[quartz rose]

I found a way to dance around this issue BUT it wont work/follow every single time tho, don't say I hadn't warned you.
So before that you need to create a transparent PNG image with the aspect ratio you desired and with nothing in it, just a blank image. And still use the similar prompt like below:

"Use this image to create an ultra-realistic shadow art lamp, multi-layer papercut design placed inside a round lamp frame, intricate cut-out silhouettes. Warm light shining through layers of paper, casting dreamy shadows of a "young anime girl Witch" onto the wall, delicate craftsmanship, premium artisan aesthetic, photographed in a cozy dark room to highlight the glowing effect."

here's the result from the prompt: "young anime girl Witch"

[quartz rose]

and here are some failed varients.

[wary lark]

omg, how much long detailed answer you guys give, appreciate it fr, thanksss

[deep scaffold]

Made an edit of Jeanette to look like Jasmine from Aladdin ⭐

[quartz rose]

lol that alright,

Jeanette from Aladdin? OK!

[wispy beacon]

#ai-creations one man dark brown color wearing casual classes and have beard with someof other mans in the skardu of pakistan northern areas hicking mountain HD realistic 16:9-r

one man dark brown color wearing casual classes and have beard with someof other mans in the skardu of pakistan northern areas hicking mountain HD realistic --ar 9:16

[uneven talon]

Yes! And cool that I can link it

[unique condor]

@sturdy prawn 1960s mercedes benz car driving in a modern cyberpunk city

[pseudo violet]

I've been traumatized by kontext

I truly cannot imagine why it failed so miserably in this one

[quartz rose]

this is new fashion!

[glacial void]

You’ll wanna check out #1397655624103493813 for more info on how to use the bot.

[fringe gorge]

I swear people don’t read

[obsidian escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-screaming-luffy-zoro-yelling-zoro-surprised-one-piece-scream-yell-astonished-gif-4002318146217070

[fleet pollen]

For everybody reading this page:
Read the following message if you are wanting to generate IMAGES:

How to use gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (nano-banana)
gemini-2.5-flash-image-preview (previously known as nano-banana) is accessible in Image Generation for Battle, Side by Side, and Direct https://lmarena.ai/?chat-modality=image
Read the following message if you are wanting to generate VIDEOS:
Read #1397655624103493813 and use the /video or /image-to-video command in #video-arena-1, #video-arena-2, or #video-arena-3 with your prompt and image (if you are using one)
@toxic crest @honest lichen

[quartz rose]

YOOO its Walter White & Jesse Pinkman

[glacial void]

[fickle kite]

Hi everyone, is this the correct place to use prompts to create images?

[prisma umbra]

Nano banana ➡️ veo workflow is really fun!

https://youtu.be/O7JhnGSH3Kc?si=Z9dFdCRUDD1obQLU

[acoustic sundial]

Half of all my creations were before the rate limit 😡😤

These are 10 of my 50 designs and creations that were proven good and SOLD before the rate limit.

[torn wyvern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UqugVJzH6v4?feature=shared

[dawn marsh]

Done up with SeeDream V4, I hope it'll available on LMARENA too soon, it really outperformed Nanobanana in many tasks especially when it comes to style maintenance with facial retention

[lofty kite]

Nooooo 🔥🔥🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[keen gust]

Guys which channel to ask questions?

[glacial void]

#general tends to be a good place

[keen gust]

Nobody answering there 😑

[hoary yoke]

Chat, I made a writing tone changer.

All it requires is a Google AI Studio API key to work.

It uses Gemini 2.5 Flash Lite to change the writing tone of your text.

[strong quartz]

It seems that nanobanana lost to seedream 4.0, especially in text to image.

[acoustic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/yato-herzog-gif-26536644

[spiral cypress]

I prefer nano banana for pixel art. Perhaps nano has some magical highres fix that I don't know about, but the half-pixels in seedream are not looking so great. It using lower pixels though.
"8-bit pixel art rendition of a Shiba Inu sitting, with a white backdrop."

[cinder patio]

A cat

[quartz rose]

can it also upload to analyze let say my own writting tone and mimics it?

FBI, please im in a good mannar

[hoary yoke]

No, but I believe you can request it to do that with the “Custom” writing tone.

[quartz rose]

Where?

[hoary yoke]

When you start it up, you'll see a little pill-shaped drop-down thing that says “Proofread”. If you click that, then a list of different writing tones will open up on the right side. One of them says “Custom”.

[quartz rose]

lol found it , the ui hide inside here

[hoary yoke]

Yeah, heh heh.

[fleet pollen]

lmarena is holding seedream 4.0 back, here are two examples of what the model can do when not restricted to 1280x1280 low quality square images

[sinful rivet]

An artist in a sun-drenched studio, sketching a portrait of a sleeping dog. The camera is at a low angle, focusing on their hand as it moves across the paper, then tilts up to reveal the dog. The style is a soft, dreamy oil painting.

[dim cairn]

Hello! Please, head to #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3 to create videos or images. Also, read #1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly use the bot.

[wicked obsidian]

@uneven talon gpt-3.5-turbo casually flexing with triple royal fork https://dubesor.de/chess/chess-leaderboard#game=1387&player=gpt-3.5-turbo (move 14)

[glacial void]

Thank you for sharing This is being flagged to the team.

[weak steppe]

I uh just made* an AI powered writing tool that works like AI dungeon but is more suited for story writing than text based adventures, saves/loads to google drive, and lets you input an OpenRouter API key so its waaaaaaaaaaay cheaper.
* by made I mean I basically got github copilot to vibe code the entire thing for me. I am Not an experienced web dev. Still surprisingly hard at times and had to do research into solving problems like refresh tokens and pagination.

If anyone wants to try it, its here: https://varkarrus.github.io/Ghostwriter
feel free to copy/fork it and make your own version btw

[severe gull]

how to generate ???

[glacial void]

Check out #1397655624103493813 for more information.

[uneven talon]

oof. The other model had no chance. Is that a cloaked model? I don't recognize it.

[wicked obsidian]

it's a 560B MoE model, https://huggingface.co/meituan-longcat/LongCat-Flash-Chat

[uneven talon]

Thank you (I mostly follow those in lmarena)

[lavish pine]

Is there another free way to try it ?

[fleet pollen]

yupp.ai, space.coze.cn (requires phone number)

[potent elbow]

its bad

and kimi k2 1t moe model

[warped salmon]

Is anyone else having problems with seedream 4?

[glacial void]

What kind of problems? Are you running into errors?

[warped salmon]

idk,I used a VPN and it seems to have worked, I'm in Brazil and it seems the generation wasn't working

[glacial void]

seems the generation wasn't working
Is the model stuck and endlessly generating?

[warped salmon]

sometimes both

[quartz rose]

I've took care of that damn clown, so now come and play🥸

[lofty kite]

Model?

Can I also have the prompt pls?

[hidden nimbus]

Nano banana

[hidden nimbus]

I can't send prompt here i send you prompt section

[lofty kite]

Sure

Thx

[hidden nimbus]

I can't even send in that topic it said you can't send i send you in dm

[lofty kite]

Ok

[uncut lion]

this is ai???

[solar latch]

Did you do this in seedream 4.0?

@strong quartz ?

[lofty kite]

Do you like it?

[spiral cypress]

Aesthetically, it's really nice. Very cute 🥰
There are still some half pixels if you look closer. 'nothing you cant fix by lowering the resolution though.

[lofty kite]

In your opinion what model created that?

[spiral cypress]

Based on the bottom right, probably seedream?

[lofty kite]

damn I hadn't considered the tag

Lol ahahah

[rain cipher]

Hi

[rain cipher]

Hi

😭😭😭😭

[lyric apex]

A fog

[slim jasper]

/imagen

[strong quartz]

Yes seedream 4.0 + veo2

[kind rivet]

Holy, these are fire

howd u make them

[gleaming flume]

All made in LMArena..

[still walrus]

I want spiderman black suit

[old mesa]

How do you use the seedream

I need a ai that can turn pictures into realistic videos

[civic tide]

no

[dim cairn]

You'll want to check #1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly use the bot.

[gleaming flume]

Project Banani Downfall

[lofty kite]

Rip

[gleaming flume]

Rest in pancakes..

How's your Soda Dream experience today?

[hoary yoke]

🫡

[chrome tide]

#1397655624103493813 You'll want to check, to learn how to properly use the bot.

[hybrid snow]

@sonic otter @hollow thunder Please check https://discordapp.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813

[sonic otter]

ok, I did thanks

[old mesa]

Can anyone help me replace the whirlpool washer to where the Samsung washer is ?

[lofty kite]

Bruh we aren't photoshop request 🥀🥀

[gleaming flume]

Call technician

[lofty kite]

https://tenor.com/gnf7M0cR6Vv.gif

[lofty kite]

I wanted to do it 😞

[gleaming flume]

Drink a can of soda? 🤣

[shy vessel]

Hii

Use a cola bottle

[gleaming flume]

I'll share the prompt at #share-prompts channel

[rose crater]

):
A small Chakma village grocery shop interior. A middle-aged Chakma shopkeeper is sitting behind the counter, checking his notebook for dues. A young female customer in traditional Chakma dress stands in front of the counter, looking worried and apologetic. She says, “Dada, this month I have some problems, I cannot pay the due.” The shopkeeper, angry and serious, replies loudly: “If you cannot pay, why did you eat? I need my money today. If you cannot give money, then you must stay with me!” The scene should look dramatic, realistic, with emotional tension visible in both faces.

[zinc iris]

Outputs from nano-banana and gpt-image-1 respectively

original image

Asked the same but to roll the clock back and got this

[gleaming flume]

Bring me to Sodaland..

[dim cairn]

Hello! It seems you want to create content using the LMArena bot. Please, read #1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly use the bot.

[fierce grove]

How-to

https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1397655624103493813

[patent schooner]

Seedream 4.0 high res vs Imagen 4 ultra

[dawn trail]

Why

[slim fossil]

Ok

[gleaming flume]

Imagen 4 with Precision Mode is much better than Nani Banani..

[gleaming flume]

I scream, eye's cream, ice cream..

[dim cairn]

Please check #1397655624103493813 to learn how to properly use the bot.

[gleaming flume]

I think I'll love Imagen 4..

[glacial void]

@stiff marten Please review the information in #1397655624103493813. This will provide instructions on how to properly use the bot.

[late bluff]

hey

is there anyone who makes gemini api apps and scale here?

[dense kindle]

https://www.tiktok.com/@van.melodies/video/7550732410846022926?_t=ZT-8zmRYjzRXLS&_r=1

[velvet moth]

My creation

GTA 5 style

[gleaming flume]

Hi, I am not new. Just stup*d enough..

[glacial void]

@outer warren I'd encourage you to check out #1397655624103493813 for more information on how to use the Video Arena bot. Be sure to let me know if you have any questions.

[dim cairn]

Hello! Please, read #1397655624103493813 to learn how to prompt and properly use the bot. You can use the Video Arena channels for your creations: #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3

[gleaming flume]

Can't deny. Soda Dream Number 4 is a wizard or a witch for transforming a passport photo into this.

[barren bluff]

3 Vin Diesel vs 1 Vin Electric

[chrome tide]

Please, #1397655624103493813 to learn how to prompt and properly use the bot. You can use the Video Arena channels for your creations: #video-arena-1 #video-arena-2 #video-arena-3

[shy dome]

hello

[ornate scaffold]

Prompt - make this character photorealistic, make the armor and especially the Taxidermy fox head helmet look real, don't forget the shades on his eyes, put him in a realistic looking setting

gpt1 is the only model in the arena that can actually do this, every other model just can't stomach a job like this

[gleaming flume]

Both Geppeto-1 and Soda Dream Number 4 gave good results..

[quartz rose]

This look fantastic! is it possible to share the prompt?

[sterile kiln]

@gleaming flume
Can you share the prompt for generating image like this

[gleaming flume]

Scroll up at #share-prompts channel. There's a detailed guidance.

[agile drift]

Hi I just left another group because they were making fun of me because I want to make a animation tv show or movie or both with ai

If you want can I show you some of my pictures

The Alvin and the Chipmunks go to the uk written by Logan

[lofty kite]

@agile drift all of this beautiful stuff are created with nano banana?

[agile drift]

No

[lofty kite]

Also with seedream?

[agile drift]

No

I have 2 apps

[lofty kite]

In what sense?

you don't use an AI to create the images?

[agile drift]

Yes I use a a I app

[lofty kite]

ohh wait

maybe I understand what you mean

what app do you use?

[agile drift]

Chat GPT and copilot

[lofty kite]

Okok

So you use the gpt 1 image AI model

[agile drift]

Yea

[lofty kite]

Can I have a prompt?

Of this image if possible

or whatever you want

for me it's the same

[agile drift]

Yea

[candid rampart]

Qwen gave me this

[glacial void]

Curious what the prompt was

[candid rampart]

I put in this and said "make it really dark and a bit eerie/scary"

Currently going back and forth with it to try to get a realistic dark edit of another photo

It doesnt let me edit imgs on lmarena tho, it just shows an error so had to use qwen. I bet some of the models wouldve done this a bit better

[glacial void]

You may be getting rate limited, that tends to be the most common.

[candid rampart]

Dunno... Just shows a red error thing on the attachment

Gotty trx tmrw when i get on my pc

[glacial void]

Oh on the upload, got it.

[candid rampart]

Why would that be?

[glacial void]

Yeah unfortunately, that is also a known issue. Sometimes image uploads won't work.

[candid rampart]

Ill try on pc tmrw then

Qwen works fine

[half dirge]

iA Ben afflet en Venezuela ? 😂

[fading lance]

@inland nexus You may want to visit #1397655624103493813 to learn how to use the bot on the video arena channels

[frigid shore]

🤔

[past drum]

Fil

[gleaming flume]

Made with the help of LMArena.
Watch on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acfZvAkr720

[tawny chasm]

damn i really like how it came out

[sour sparrow]

Can l create

[ripe hollow]

Clear the word of this image in english

[glacial void]

Yeah! Be sure to check out the information in #1397655624103493813

[glacial void]

Oooooo that's really nice!

all of your generations are pretty cool, I'm a fan

[gleaming flume]

MICE!

[devout pivot]

criar um curta metragem por parte no total de 7 minutos

[lofty kite]

Prompt?

[marble pond]

By:aniskara®

[sour prawn]

want to a do a video

[glacial void]

@sour prawn Be sure to read #1397655624103493813 that'll show you how to use the video arena bot.

[marble pond]

Yes

By:anis kara ®

[edgy gulch]

What do you think of Rave IA?

[marble pond]

By:anis kara ® |To take a picture, contact me.

[edgy gulch]

Rave IA is good

[lofty kite]

Eww furry stuff

[edgy gulch]

The AI I use is called Rave