general

[sand fulcrum]

but i only got 5 accs which is enough for me

[thorny schooner]

To be honest I don't even really care about the account stuff I just want this damn thing to work

lol

[low ibex]

same

[sand fulcrum]

me too

it was doing great at last year

sadly

[charred vessel]

Don’t we all

[thorny schooner]

But anyway I guess good morning for y'all ( it is becoming morning for me)

[cloud wagon]

Will it comeback gemini image generation model's

[thorny schooner]

Maybe they said they will bring it back when they can sustainably if I remember correctly

[low ibex]

i already tried using so many of my acc and this website still not work, it work after few prompt and then blank bug again

[sand fulcrum]

thats models

this bug is different

it needs to come back

and get fixed

[thorny schooner]

I was replying to this

[low ibex]

yeah but im still be thankful bc sticky bot change the message that it said the team is investigating the root cause, i hope in about 2 more days the sticky bote message changed

[cloud wagon]

Is it because of bug

[silent tree]

models wont come back 50% chance

[low ibex]

no, its the same stuff like chat gpt 5.4, gemini 3.1 pro and opus 4.6 but gemini 3.1 is back

[sand fulcrum]

until the new system

[low ibex]

they remove the 3 model but the gemini 3.1 make it back into the website

[silent tree]

the new system doesnt guarantee it

dude

[silent tree]

ye cuz people are so angry

they had to

bring one back

[silent tree]

they want to sustain arena

[low ibex]

and thats good, i rlly² need gemini other than other model, for me, gemini is more realistic than gpt

[silent tree]

theyre not bringing it back to bring models back

[silent tree]

thats not the full purpose

[sand fulcrum]

how do you even know

[dusky ravine]

I just want for this thing fo work

[sand fulcrum]

we don't even know if its guaranteed or not

[silent tree]

pineapple told that too

[thorny schooner]

That has been said before

[silent tree]

see it isnt 100% guaranteed the models come back right when the new usage system comes

[shell canopy]

we hope that arena.ai website should be fully open-source?

[sand fulcrum]

who knows

[low ibex]

what is open source mean?

[thorny schooner]

Honestly open-weighted seems more realistic

[shell canopy]

the codebase that runs the current arena.ai website bro,

[low ibex]

ooo

[light sleet]

dude they are not gonna make arena opensource

[shell canopy]

why?

[silent tree]

fr

[low ibex]

wait what is lm arena status rn? is it open source or what?

[silent tree]

There's no reason to make it opensourced

Why do you need it opensourced

?

the website point is to evaluate models

[thorny schooner]

It is close source

[silent tree]

and vote

[cloud wagon]

Is there any other way to use nano banana pro

[low ibex]

oooo, ok ok

[shell canopy]

because if there are bugs then it would be 10x faster to fix instead of waiting for employees

[silent tree]

but again ima not advertise here soo

[low ibex]

google ai studio, they have nano banan pro

[shell canopy]

and new features can be released much sooner

[silent tree]

dude 😭

they are NOT gonna make it opensourced

OpenArena 😭

[shell canopy]

then if they are not open sourcing their platform, that is a red flag, bc sooner or later they will go down in the sloppification path.

[amber oxide]

Would be fire tho ngl

A man can dream

[quaint rose]

ok thanks

[shell canopy]

we have seen many ai projects going down before, such as microsoft copilot. arena.ai should N3VER going down on this path.

[quaint rose]

still in investigate?

[low ibex]

im using arena just to roleplay cuz the ai response much more natural and realistically than using it on original apps such as gemini

[low ibex]

bro, malaysia duk mana?

[dusky ravine]

You can do that?

[quaint rose]

i use it for my adventure story but few days ago and there have a serious problem like does no respond my prompt

[low ibex]

wait you never know?

[quaint rose]

Penang

[low ibex]

oo, aku duk sabah

[dusky ravine]

no, i used a.i for study

how u do roleplay?

[quaint rose]

so u ade kena bug tak?

[low ibex]

yeah i hate that cuz i didnt install any games on my phone and most of the time im just using arena just to make roleplay story

[low ibex]

ofc aa

[dusky ravine]

oo orang malaysia

[light sleet]

Rule Number 7

[grave shard]

Why LMARENA Not wroking ?

[low ibex]

just type "roleplay and then bla² whats the type of roleplay you want" and then boom. its just like a novel story of roleplay

[low ibex]

ight ight

[quaint rose]

you pun Malaysia?

[dusky ravine]

oh i just know that

aku pun iya

[shell canopy]

we might wonder if its a bug or intentional cap

[low ibex]

yeah, working for few times and they will not respond again

[quaint rose]

it's bug

i think

[dusky ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[shell canopy]

idk why some ppl still call it an intentional cap?

[grave shard]

I copied my backup master prompt to new chat still it's not loading

[sharp mirage]

Hiiii

[sand crown]

Their brain isn't working

[grave shard]

Maybe we should give some time to the devs

[quaint rose]

i rasa so penat mcm ni

[low ibex]

thats the same problem as we had rn

[silent tree]

guys

Basically

[dusky ravine]

cemana ini bug mulu

[quaint rose]

this problem will happen when you text 4-5 time and it happen

[silent tree]

Designarena vs Arena is going on

[silent tree]

Both got response error bug same day

Let's who fixes first

[low ibex]

wait what is design arena? i just heard that

[quaint rose]

you need delete your account and loop

[grave shard]

Its just for design purpose

[silent tree]

no

It isnt

wym

it has webdev too

and it can run commands

Its fullstack

Deploys to vercel too

Has database

Built In Supabase

[grave shard]

I am using Chatgpt and claude as of now to continue my project
Will come soon and check if LMARENA is working or not

[quaint rose]

saya rasa kena tunggu mereka baikikan

[dusky ravine]

iya

[quaint rose]

x tau tunggu berapa lama

[grave shard]

I had one alternative
Let me find it

[quaint rose]

?

[silent tree]

Rule Number 7

[quaint rose]

oh ok

i see

[light sleet]

Rule Number 7 important

here

[sharp mirage]

Bro it's not big deal

[light sleet]

It is

[sharp mirage]

Not really

[light sleet]

Hes right

[light sleet]

It is a big deal though

You can get warned if u keep continuing

This is a English only Chat I believe so

[ivory temple]

what is it

[sharp mirage]

No even pineapple sied that not me

[shell canopy]

but the point is designarena doesnt have text-to-text comparison, just webdev?

[quaint rose]

like arena can texting?

[light sleet]

Where?

[dusky ravine]

do something

[sand fulcrum]

w

[sharp mirage]

Alr wait lat me show you

[quaint rose]

it's just a robot

[light sleet]

Oh wait he did

But yea still tho

It's still a rule

[dusky ravine]

loll

[quaint rose]

so who have any alternative?

[dusky ravine]

ok

[sharp mirage]

Alr bro

Idc

[sand fulcrum]

wtf

[sharp mirage]

Tbh

[sharp mirage]

What!?

[silent tree]

Why are you pineapple?

[sharp mirage]

Watermelon you started this :/

[silent tree]

started what bro

u said dont make a big deal

you are making it now

Ig

[sharp mirage]

Ig

Banana looks like pineapple undercover

Ngl

[silent tree]

he is pineapple alt

[grave shard]

Yup

[sharp mirage]

Ig

[quaint rose]

ok what's it?

[grave shard]

Gensparkai

[dusky ravine]

they're fruit after all

[sharp mirage]

I am also fruit tho

[velvet yarrow]

It feels wrong to focus on moderation while the main service has been broken for days. Please prioritize fixing Arena first.

[amber oxide]

...you know the mods and the devs aren't the same people, right

[velvet yarrow]

Even if there is no exact ETA, saying nothing beyond “investigating the root cause” for days is very hard for users. If it is unlikely to be fixed today or this week, I wish the team would say that clearly so people can stop waiting and adjust their plans.

[sand fulcrum]

how to make the arena work again

with this bug

[dusky ravine]

you wouldnt belive me if i told you

[sand fulcrum]

alr

i'll believe

@dusky ravine tell me

[dusky ravine]

wait for them to fix it

[sand fulcrum]

anything else

[dusky ravine]

pray for them to fix it sooner

[sand fulcrum]

anything else

theres more

[quaint rose]

why mod named after fruit

[sharp mirage]

Idk

I never asked

[hollow ice]

Have anyone tried it an hour later, and it worked,
I mean mine was blank and all of a sudden it was saying limit, and my other chrome has been prompted more than ten times

[dusky ravine]

No

[quaint rose]

now one account only can text a few time and then bug

you need delete your account

but it's loop again

[limber hound]

it's 15 requests daily

until they update something about that

-# daily means 24 hours since first request*

[sand ravine]

same

[limber hound]

yeah it's for everyone

[sand ravine]

That's why I don't think it's a bug, the pattern is obvious.

[limber hound]

the bug sticky spams about is a lie, but there may be another bug stopping actual update

[quaint rose]

but it go blank

[limber hound]

yeah it's easy to fix in few minutes, just create notification about rate limit after you spend your requests

it goes blank because you spent your daily requests

[thorny schooner]

it has not reset for me ( despite being like 2 days since the last time it worked for me and I had this having this issue since like 3 days ) so I don't think so at least it's not a complete intentional

[sand fulcrum]

there's a reset ain't it

[quaint rose]

how

[sand ravine]

Perhaps they introduced such strict limits for some reason, but don't want to admit it.

[limber hound]

yeah. reset=time in seconds

[sand fulcrum]

how do you fix it then

[limber hound]

you can't. arena devs can

[limber hound]

you cant

it's not bug on our end

[sand fulcrum]

aw

[sand ravine]

If this is a bug, it's just ridiculous that they've been looking for the problem for 3 days, in the era of neural networks on a neural network aggregator.

[quaint rose]

ah

[slender ledge]

bio

[limber hound]

i have no idea why they put stickybot with obvious lie message

[slender ledge]

bro

why arena

just 16

15

[thorny schooner]

So if there is a reset, I must have the smallest stick possible for reset length cuz damn

[slender ledge]

make it like 50

[limber hound]

bug may be in there, but no prompt response is intended because limits

[limber hound]

they'll make it bigger i guess

because limits aren't even announced to be present

but they are

[sand ravine]

welcome to Russia

[hollow ice]

How can I check for the limits

[limber hound]

always lived here

[short sluice]

Why are they investigating it so slowly though

[quaint rose]

idk

[limber hound]

complicated.
F12 > Network.
enter prompt WHILE you still have requests
go to create-evaluation and hit header. you'll see info about your limits there

[sterile stratus]

If those are the ratelimits they plan direct is almost useless for most things

[short sluice]

It's almost like they're half-[redacted]ing it I know there's chances they both did and didn't

[limber hound]

😍

[limber hound]

that rate limits are probably gonna kill battle mode, because limits are shared with direct, and most of people will prefer to spend requests not on random models but best they can access. that's probably silliest decision from devs

[dense sphinx]

Someone please fix it 😩

[timid spruce]

tho why does it only happens to some

cuz mine is working fine

[toxic verge]

Not implanted everywhere yet

Beta run

[limber hound]

did you make more than 15 request in 24 hours?

[toxic verge]

Testing out before full roll out

[timid spruce]

yuup

code, agent, battle, image, direct

well i did it all

[limber hound]

huh, well seems like im not lucky

can u share your rate limits values if you have those?

[timid spruce]

where ya find that

[toxic verge]

I think they want to go back to battle/side by side

[limber hound]

#general message

[toxic verge]

And get rid of direct all tother

[sterile stratus]

Didn't know limits were shared with battle mode. No one is using it then, nor max in direct

[short sluice]

OHHH

that's what it is?

[sand fulcrum]

can you change the rate limit

[toxic verge]

Max is the way to go moving forward

[limber hound]

nope

[timid spruce]

where in the world is create-evaluation

[sand fulcrum]

.

[timid spruce]

in F12

[sand fulcrum]

oh man

[unkempt juniper]

Jesus, if it's that much of a issue that it might be in the root cause..m

[limber hound]

should appear after you enter prompt with F12 > Network opened

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-its-done-over-gif-14586343

[silent tree]

YES

[timid spruce]

ah yes

[silent tree]

It should be battle only

[limber hound]

hmm ye i don't see create-evaluation

lucky

[timid spruce]

the only error i have is cuz i have an ad blocker lmfao

[hollow ice]

I got a reply that I have a rate limit

[toxic verge]

Gotta wait 24 hours

So what’s everyone gunna do on the down time?

[timid spruce]

well me i'ma search since not a lot can access arena

[gentle yew]

Hello I wanted to let you know that ChatGPT-2 and Nano Banana 2K are currently not available on the website from my side.

Could you please check if this is a temporary issue or if there are any restrictions affecting access? Also, is there any workaround or alternative solution available in the meantime?

Thank you for your help.

Best regards,

[earnest ridge]

Video

[timid spruce]

they got removed

[timid spruce]

on my side, i use Adobe Firefly which has them but it's paid and you also have figma ai that has them but with a smaller limit than Arena

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-carter-its-over-done-gif-919213319621022953

[undone geyser]

Wait until new usage system comes in effect

[toxic verge]

The last piece of the puzzle

It will go from 15-10-5- to $ wall just like all ai

[gentle yew]

I understand that the models were removed. Could you please let me know if there are any plans to add them back in the future, or if the removal is permanent?

[silent tree]

wont guarantee the models coming back but there's a chance

[toxic verge]

It started with login requirements it has been down hill since

[earnest ridge]

Video

[timid spruce]

for now nothing got announced so you might stay tuned for news

[earnest ridge]

Prompt 6: ঝর্ণার পাশে
Keep faces unchanged. Romantic couple standing near a small waterfall in a beautiful park. Gentle water sounds, natural smiles, close-up facial shots, cinematic drone movement, dreamy atmosphere, realistic lighting and reflections, HDR film look.
Prompt 7: গাছের নিচে বসা
Preserve original faces and outfits. Couple sitting under a large tree in a peaceful park. Woman resting her head on the man's shoulder. Soft sunset glow, emotional mood, cinematic close-ups, smooth camera movement, ultra detailed 4K realism.

[silent tree]

Are you a bot

[timid spruce]

tho i'm searching on my side things since well my Arena doesn't have that weird limitation and works perfectly

[surreal zephyr]

<@&1349916362595635286> spambot

[silent tree]

banana already told him yesterday

video arena in site

so thats a bot

[earnest ridge]

Prompt 6: ঝর্ণার পাশে
Keep faces unchanged. Romantic couple standing near a small waterfall in a beautiful park. Gentle water sounds, natural smiles, close-up facial shots, cinematic drone movement, dreamy atmosphere, realistic lighting and reflections, HDR film look.
Prompt 7: গাছের নিচে বসা
Preserve original faces and outfits. Couple sitting under a large tree in a peaceful park. Woman resting her head on the man's shoulder. Soft sunset glow, emotional mood, cinematic close-ups, smooth camera movement, ultra detailed 4K realism.

[timid spruce]

me digging inside the F12 AND FINDING THINGS YAY

[silent tree]

BRO STOP

[gentle yew]

Thanks for checking on your side. That's interesting to know that it works normally for you. Please let me know if you find out what might be causing the limitation on my account or if there is any way to restore access. Thank you for your help

[lone moon]

slime yo

[timid spruce]

well i see some things that explain the bugs

[earnest ridge]

Video generator

[timid spruce]

okay apparently it has to do with ya all IP's

wait @limber hound can you check smth for me in F12 ?

[silent tree]

Its in https://arena.ai/video

[limber hound]

wha

[gentle yew]

That's good to hear. Could you please share what you found? I'd be interested to know what might be causing the issue and whether there is a possible fix.

[timid spruce]

can you check the value of this in your network F12

[limber hound]

you mean 'access-control-allow-credentials'?

or which value

[timid spruce]

that

the status code

[limber hound]

dont even have it pretty sure

[timid spruce]

do you have smth like an error 429 in the error tab ?

[rigid holly]

Wbo wants to wager it takes a week to fix this?

[limber hound]

yeah create-evaluation is 429 cuz i hit my limits

[timid spruce]

yuuup

this error is a conflict error

[timid spruce]

happens when there are too much requests at a time

and sends a non valid JSON File

[limber hound]

and also when you hit your limits

[timid spruce]

yea

[toxic verge]

Jk bro I’m making the one u want

Can’t beat em cheat em?

[north fossil]

What's the update?

[gentle yew]

@timid spruce

[north fossil]

Guys?

[timid spruce]

?

yeas.

?

[gentle yew]

For that

[toxic verge]

Man people will do anything and everything but have to pay for ai

[sand ravine]

Yes, for example, with personal hygiene or not drinking cow urine.

[toxic verge]

People don’t mind using it when someone else pays, they start getting greedy demanding everything. They are ready to hack, cheat, make multiple accounts, do whatever it takes just not cough up $20 month sub

[timid spruce]

we'll the error ya all are gettin is related to an invisible handshake arena does that's link with your IP address apparently

[echo dome]

any updates about arena.ai?

[sand ravine]

$20 monthly sub, what's the average salary in India? Are you willing to pay for a picture with a neuroslope like the one you posted?

[toxic verge]

Yes

0.004cents

[echo dome]

its still broken

i told you its server overloaded

[sand ravine]

good boy

[graceful verge]

I just woke up thinking it would be fixed

[fossil gorge]

They defo should add ads to pay for it

[echo dome]

no adding ads in the halls

[graceful verge]

tru

[echo dome]

15 seconds detection for you
don't act like youtube

[toxic verge]

Honestly I don’t mean this in anyways but there has been a lot of ai content farming and bots from south east Asia’s

[echo dome]

haha baldi's basics

[graceful verge]

i will touch u bro

[echo dome]

no "We are currently investigating an issue where some users are not getting a response to their prompts. We’re sorry for the inconvenience, and the team is actively working on a fix. We will share the most recent updates though this message. The current status is we are investigating the root cause." in the halls

[graceful verge]

ur gona be touched

[sand ravine]

Text generation is available FREE and without limits, for almost any model, including GROK, GPT, and GOOGLE. Arena is simply an intermediary in this case, and the profit was only a convenient comparison... but limits, even those, are meaningless if the owner offers it for free.

[echo dome]

15 seconds detection for you

[graceful verge]

Is this true ???

[toxic verge]

No

[graceful verge]

@echo aurora is this true gng

[graceful verge]

Blow this guy

[toxic verge]

Older version are r maybe

[echo dome]

no saying these words in the halls
15 seconds detection for you
you should know better

[toxic verge]

When the video arena was here There was so many bots here.

[fossil gorge]

Bro idc il watch ads just so website runs better

I got exams ChatGPT limits so bad

[gentle yew]

If the issue is related to Arena's IP handshake process, is there anything I can do on my side to fix it? Or is this something that needs to be resolved by the Arena team?

[sand ravine]

In reality, there are no neural networks. In reality, everything is done by millions of Indians, who create a video based on your request in a couple of minutes. That's why it's so expensive and why Sora closed.😆

[timid spruce]

if you want to check if the ip is really the thing, go on https://www.whatismyip.com and copy the Ipv4 one. Then go on https://scamalytics.com to get a fraud score

if the score is high, might explain why

for example, my Arena Works and i have a fraud score of 1 which is the lowest

[toxic verge]

Yes, thank you for confirming my speculation

[echo dome]

max's lost cousin

[graceful verge]

fr

[thorny schooner]

Where do you look for the score

[graceful verge]

whats this

[toxic verge]

F12

[timid spruce]

on scamanalytics

you put your ip it gives ou a score

[echo dome]

v0
idk about this

[gentle yew]

i got 0

[timid spruce]

lmfao

[worn jetty]

Is it?

[timid spruce]

okay so def not ip related thx

[worn jetty]

Oh it's not

[thorny schooner]

I got a 7

[echo dome]

same

[worn jetty]

Ur investigating from 3 days!!!!

[echo dome]

but its money

[buoyant walrus]

wtf

[echo dome]

arena.ai max but paid

[graceful verge]

i got a 0 as well

[timid spruce]

wait does all of the guys that bug have the create evaluation thing in F12?

[toxic verge]

0 to low

[graceful verge]

where tf is this ?

[timid spruce]

bruh i have to go to eat

[graceful verge]

website ??

[echo dome]

https://v0.app/

[gentle yew]

that's a good thing nah ?

[worn jetty]

Do anyone know where I can use grok 4.20 or something for free??...
I really need!!!....

[echo dome]

its good thing but there may be public proxy

[graceful verge]

😎 🤤

[worn jetty]

Lol

U may get ban!🙄

[graceful verge]

a real g . Thanks for the tip

[fossil gorge]

Bro grok is so bad

[graceful verge]

fr

[worn jetty]

Still?😩....
U know?

Plz?

[fossil gorge]

Bro I know what your up too

[worn jetty]

? What?

I used grok search model 4.20 in arena but it's gone in 9 msg😵

[hollow spoke]

Well it will delete your project

Definitely not reliable.

[worn jetty]

4.6 is best!!👹

It also use less token consumption

[hollow spoke]

5.5 xhigh better

[naive spruce]

Me waiting arena to be fixed

[worn jetty]

Yos 🔥

[worn jetty]

sigh😵

[echo dome]

both better

[fickle hawk]

What happened to the Nano Banana models and the GPT Image 2? They're gone when I want to search it.

[worn jetty]

For sustainability and Feasbilty 🍍 will introduce it in future!!👹

[echo dome]

its removed because of costing too much and then kids ruined servers

[fickle hawk]

That s*cks tho.

[echo dome]

why "u" censored

[worn jetty]

😵

[hollow spoke]

🔥

[night moat]

fix what? there is no bug here. (🤞)

[last prism]

Old arena gone now gang

[last prism]

And i was in the middle of my proposal writing

[fast kite]

Where is nano banana 2k???

[worn jetty]

Hmm!!👹
Well I found dolphin AI is uncensored fully!!!

[spring oar]

What you mean ?

[echo dome]

o

[echo dome]

what if arena.ai added this feature

[fast kite]

Hello?

[echo dome]

is this ai nerfing?

[pine meadow]

I need the ability to continue a conversation in a new chat because I was working on a project that wasn't completed and I've reached my chat usage limit.

@echo aurora

[crude sky]

will it be added back in future ?

[worn jetty]

Yos, but don't know when that future come!!!😵

[crude sky]

any alternatives to use ?

[hollow spoke]

Soon

[worn jetty]

We're u using arenallm currently???😵

[worn jetty]

Yah!! sigh

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/tf-gif-10288190

[hollow spoke]

Well hopefully by june

[silent tree]

I summon @light sleet

[worn jetty]

🍉is 🍍ur neighbor

[silent tree]

Nah we all produce are brothers

[sly cedar]

Bye guys

[silent tree]

The whole produce are brothers

[sly cedar]

Thank for yall to spend time here

[silent tree]

Including banana, cherry, apple

[sly cedar]

I have to quit

[toxic verge]

It’s called greedy token

[worn jetty]

Well I wish first they solve this bug 🐞!
I thought they use opus model and fix it in secs

[raven adder]

wow

a bot

!

hope they can fix that prompt bug,arena is lowk a rlly good app

[hollow spoke]

prob in like few days

[toxic verge]

Index Gradients for Optimization

[steel hornet]

Is it down

[echo dome]

why companies vibecoding now?

[worn jetty]

Oh😵

[steel hornet]

Is arena ai down

Its not working for me

Can soemon3 cehck for me

If arena.ai is up

[naive spruce]

The root cause is limitation. Just go reset to null at this point smh

[graceful sonnet]

Why is gpt-image-2 and Nano banana 2 gets removed?

[steel hornet]

I have to use copilot now

Bruh

[echo dome]

ew copliot

why all companies vibecoding now?

[steel hornet]

What other alternative are there

That's unlimited

[toxic verge]

Cheaper then paying ppl

[hollow spoke]

@echo aurora and @light sleet back then..

[steel hornet]

Stfu I don't have hardware for ai

Holy skid

[toxic verge]

U can rent gpu

[steel hornet]

R u special?

What's the point of that

If ai online is free

IDC bout privacy

[echo dome]

oh no he's eating my credits by testing

[steel hornet]

I'm not using qwen 2b model

[toxic verge]

Its not free. Someone has to pay for it.

[silent tree]

this dude has never seen ai in his life

[silent tree]

Whoa why are they in detention

[steel hornet]

In arena there is, I mean for consumers

[buoyant walrus]

it's been too long

😭 😭 😭

[steel hornet]

IDC bout big companies

[toxic verge]

😂 chill yo it’s all good

[steel hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[toxic verge]

I can’t blame you for thinking that

Yes there is

Jk

I hear what you’re saying

I was just busting your balls

Somebody does end up paying for it eventually though you are right

It’s either with our data or whatever else the hell they want from us

[silent tree]

Its an evaluation platform

go live on your own money

not on others

😭

unemployed ahh

[toxic verge]

Well, he’s actually in the majority

[echo dome]

31 days

[silent tree]

this is what arena will add

[steel hornet]

Ye but most ppl use it for direct chats

Omd

[toxic verge]

Only 3 percent of AI users actually pay for AI

But to put it in perspective only 5% of users that use YouTube pay for YouTube premium

[steel hornet]

YouTube have ads ai don't?

What's ur point sonion

Google makes money from data, ads, premium that's all which can be bypassed

[toxic verge]

It means you’re in the majority of people that don’t pay that don’t find value in it

[steel hornet]

Well that day hasn't come

And smart ppl will use other bypases for it

[toxic verge]

There’s always gonna be piracy

It’s just the way the Internet works. There’s always gonna be people that try to find a way around it.

But I think it’s just cheaper on effort to pay for it lol

Because at the end, you get what you pay for you know what I mean

[steel hornet]

U think adblocking is piracy oh hell nah

[toxic verge]

I don’t think there’s nothing wrong with privacy

I think Parce is a way to fight back against corporate tyranny

But I don’t personally participate in it

I mean all information and what not

It is

[steel hornet]

I mean ais gonna die anyway

Might as well use it fully for free

[toxic verge]

Well, let’s keep it real. Most people aren’t doing it for philosophical justification reasons.

They’re doing it to benefit under the banner of

But they don’t do anything to benefit the movement

[steel hornet]

Anyway is there better free unlimited online ai then copilot

[toxic verge]

Either way we’re pawns in one game or the other it doesn’t matter

[steel hornet]

What r u on bruh

[toxic verge]

Nothing

[steel hornet]

Bluds not Socrates

[split topaz]

I do, but it's rarely when the thing is about streaming services. And one time i tried to get GPT-5-Pro on Chinese websites, fortunately nothing (bad) happened lol.

[steel hornet]

Lmao

Slide the links

[toxic verge]

It’s all good

There’s a whole secondhand market

I mean, people should have the right to be able to share their account

[split topaz]

Yeah especially in China there is a great secondhand market on AI

[steel hornet]

Give me the ai gpt pro free link

[toxic verge]

Yes I know. What’s really sad is people don’t know how much their account is worth or valued, and how much it depreciates on the secondhand market. Accounts going for 1 dollar 🤣

[split topaz]

Well that didn't work for me so idk if that works 😭 but I saw a good post in Twitter

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/please-sir-i-want-some-more-food-hungry-gif-15777344

[split topaz]

crazy secondhand market

[toxic verge]

Yeah

[steel hornet]

Oh

[toxic verge]

And it’s thriving because from what I hear that ChatGPT is banned in some countries

In Asia’s the only way of accessing it is through the secondhand market

I know, bro I used to participate lol

[west wyvern]

hEY

gUYS

[split topaz]

Yeah. And even there are other ways of accessing these are not economic. So people choose to pirate.

[west wyvern]

I cant interact with any Model

Idk why

[toxic verge]

Yeah, it really is economics

[toxic verge]

I mean, privacy was dying almost when they first came out with streaming

But now they raise the prices of streaming services and our piracy is back up

It’s really a philosophical question it’s hard to answer and to each their own however, they view it

[novel geode]

why would it work like before ever again

[split topaz]

Yeah. Unfortunately.

[hollow ivy]

i didn't ask, when it will work like before, i asked, when it will become 100% functional

[split topaz]

Scam unsuccessful, unfortunately for you we are quite accustomed to seeing this kind of scam.

[novel geode]

then what's 100% functional

[hollow ivy]

all modes would work as intended

without bugs

[silent tree]

july

[novel geode]

yeah not until they patch those bugs as features

[split topaz]

early august is my birthday. I think everything then would fully work (no date bias)

[toxic verge]

What model ?

[toxic verge]

N I actually watched that documentary

[silent tree]

I got it too lmao

[silent tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/slovakia-communism-socialist-XFaeLrHJGjtcmEmzcn

[toxic verge]

Low key crows r smart they don’t mess around lol

[silent tree]

@sand fulcrum mentioned

[reef isle]

?

[toxic verge]

Watch actual documentary

[hollow ivy]

feathered apes

[toxic verge]

What’s the difference between raven and crow?

[sand fulcrum]

its just my discord name

tf

[silent tree]

its just my discord name

tf

[hollow spoke]

Its just my discord name

[hollow spoke]

tf

[toxic verge]

They look damn near same

[hollow ivy]

ravens & crows are as closely related like bonobos and chimpanzees

[buoyant walrus]

they still haven't finished fixing it?

[toxic verge]

It’s like Pokémon

[hollow ivy]

there was a scifi story, who said, birds would inherit our civilization
i think, it was in Perry Rhodan?
it said, birds would be the dominant species of the Milky Way, eons in the future

in a million years or so

[amber oxide]

one got the best poem ever written in the english language named after it, the other didn't

skill issue, honestly

[compact flame]

I would call that bird up

[toxic verge]

Damn, I didn’t know. Ravens, were that big

[amber oxide]

Yup

[hollow ivy]

for RPGs, yes

[amber oxide]

They thick

[silent tree]

OMG

Designarena fixed it before arena

TUFF

designarena fixed their response error first 🔥

[toxic verge]

They are synonymous with spooky things

[hollow ivy]

u sure, bro?

[toxic verge]

They’re much more beefier, the ravens

[hollow ivy]

what if birds are more intelligent than apes?

(secretly)

[toxic verge]

I mean, they look like one family

Like a cousin or something I don’t know

Yeah, but they have a whole different brain mechanism

[light sleet]

Designarena server new name

The intelligence company?

[compact flame]

Intelligence?

[light sleet]

I thought it was Arcada Labs

before

[compact flame]

Seems very intelligent

[light sleet]

it was Arcada Labs yesterday

😭

did some company acquire

[split topaz]

Yep I just checked the server and yeah.

[light sleet]

Did it get acquired or sm

[thin bloom]

good job guys 👍

[silent tree]

I think they rebranded

[split topaz]

I don't know but I hope it's a change for the better.

[compact flame]

Are they a public or private company?

Kk

[compact flame]

Why are we even getting asked that

[toxic verge]

nidopallium caudolaterale,

[hollow ivy]

yes

[compact flame]

But I guess the chimp

[compact flame]

I don't think birds are ai related topic but I guess alright

Eh there's no off topic channel anyways

Next thing you'll say that humans are ai

We are organic ai

[compact flame]

Define craziness

[toxic verge]

I mean, that’s pretty smart to figure that out

[compact flame]

https://tenor.com/view/socrates-spinning-gif-2769471696194500629

[sand fulcrum]

god damn

the bug came back again

[toxic verge]

I play tic-tac-toe with a chicken and it was hard to beat

I kid, you not at the fair

[sand fulcrum]

bug came back rn

[toxic verge]

Haha ye

[hollow ivy]

because arena.ai still does not work for everyone

[novel jungle]

Is arena working

[compact flame]

You answered just now??

[novel jungle]

I got that verification error agan

[compact flame]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-insane-crazy-madness-gif-926520943501877665

[hollow ivy]

why not?
it's a fun poll and has to do with intelligence
AI = artificial intelligence

[compact flame]

So crows are artificial

[novel jungle]

🧠

[compact flame]

Eh fair

[arctic skiff]

did anyone notice agent mode was the only one that was active?

[nimble drift]

Yall who's your favorite transformers (im bored as f)

[novel jungle]

Fr

[compact flame]

What even is that

[hollow ivy]

GLM seems to be decent

[compact flame]

I don't know this new generation stuff

[hollow ivy]

Gemini is also useful

[toxic verge]

Gemini sucks

[hollow ivy]

T = transformer
(GPT)

generative pretrained transformer

[compact flame]

Bro is calling the goat bad😭

[novel jungle]

Theres a dude in my country where he bypasses the free chat gpt accs to life time premium accs

[toxic verge]

Goat?

https://tenor.com/view/theprofessor-say-what-owl-what-did-you-say-bruh-gif-12631185023897886818

[split topaz]

Idk I didn't use Arena at all since daily use limits and constantly seeing errors whenever I look here. I may have some runs with qwen-3.7 max and battle mode today or in incoming days though.

I'll start to use the site like I did before when the limits are transparent and sort of stable. Or once the battle mode is made a credit-free zone.

[novel jungle]

Arena suck

[compact flame]

What arena specifically

[novel jungle]

All

[compact flame]

There are like multiple

[novel jungle]

Arena ai

[compact flame]

Define suck

[dense sphinx]

Guys

[novel jungle]

Idk

[dense sphinx]

I made prognosis

After 7 times using Chat

[compact flame]

That the answer to your question

[dense sphinx]

It stops responding.

[hollow ivy]

So, which of these links would you recommend?
#general message

[sand fulcrum]

It lasts two hours

Bro

[dense sphinx]

@sand fulcrum no I checked

When u use 7 times it's not responding.

[sand fulcrum]

That happened to me

Rn

[nimble drift]

6..7

[sand fulcrum]

It happens after 10 times

Brah

[compact flame]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[sand fulcrum]

Did pineapple added the limit

[dense sphinx]

Maybe on search

[sand fulcrum]

Ain't no way wtf

[nimble drift]

NO PLZ

[silent tree]

I love how people think pineapples an dev

[dense sphinx]

@echo aurora Tell me you not add limit.

[silent tree]

when he isnt

[sand fulcrum]

Ik

[compact flame]

He's a community manager

[nimble drift]

Who is dev

[timid spruce]

I do NOT have a limit

[silent tree]

that has to be sarcasm lol

[sand fulcrum]

Then where is the team

[compact flame]

People outside of discord

[compact flame]

Outside

[dense sphinx]

Then you're lucky.

[silent tree]

I think its better if they are not here

the amount of angry kids

[timid spruce]

Yea I have no issue whatsoever

[nimble drift]

Im jealous

[split topaz]

https://chat.qwen.ai/ for now.
Qwen 3.7 Max feels like the best model that you can get right now without being anything.

[timid spruce]

Been trying to figure out what was going on but impossible to find smth because it's all related to server side

The only things are F12

[vagrant plume]

so this problem does not fix now?

[hollow ivy]

best for which purpose?

[timid spruce]

To some yea unfortunately

tho if anyone has a specific test they'd want to try i can

[split topaz]

For coding, also good on personalization and making some papers(of research)

[hollow ivy]

you think, changing IP, deleting all cookies and creating a brand new account with a different email could help?

[timid spruce]

i'd say Gemini 3.5 Flash is better but not sure

[timid spruce]

everything is good to try tbh until we get smth positive

and if some people know better than me these types of problems i can also send things of my console to compare

[nimble drift]

Nah i already tried

5 account
S

[hollow ivy]

please let a frontier AI create a strong engine (+GUI) for DouShouQi

[timid spruce]

wha lmfao

[nimble drift]

Wth bro

[blazing hill]

Yakub

[split topaz]

The thing with Qwen is really usage limits. And there are some competitions that it outperformed even Opus 4.7
https://x.com/i/status/2057581603811901882

atomic.chat (@atomic_chat_hq)

Qwen 3.7-max beats Opus 4.7 and GPT-5.5

We tested three frontier models on a real agentic task: write a Tetris bot that plays the game and trains itself. Each model could read its own code, run benchmarks, and rewrite itself across 10 iterations. Then we compared the final bots

X · May 21, 2026, 9:57 PM

[timid spruce]

AH!

it doesn't work anymore

💀

[hollow ivy]

after how many tries?

[split topaz]

Also of course it has a good CritPt score which gives some more credibility to model on science I think.

[low ibex]

We are currently investigating an issue where some users are not getting a response to their prompts. We’re sorry for the inconvenience, and the team is actively working on a fix. We will share the most recent updates though this message. The current status is we are investigating the root cause.

[timid spruce]

too much lmfao

made mine crash time to do the entire troubleshoot

[toxic verge]

I am going to clown on Gemini till the day. Google apologizes.

[timid spruce]

so they indeed added a limit of chats eh

[sand fulcrum]

What is the team doing

Holy

I can feel they're just slacking off

[toxic verge]

Who loves their new upgrade?

I think that’s enough for one day

[split topaz]

In general GPT 5.5-x-high. AA intelligence index and my experience with it in the arena makes it clear for me

[toxic verge]

(2days old)

[split topaz]

But if you are making AI songs and don't want to buy Suno credits?
Fine, there, Gemini pro really works. Lyria 3 Pro is an excelling model.

[toxic verge]

My beef with Gemini goes back to December

I even marked the day

[split topaz]

again 😭😭?

[toxic verge]

Can you believe they Nerf it on Christmas Day? It was small at first then increased

[split topaz]

I think they nerfed 3 Pro before it came out as well.

[split topaz]

And presumably 3.5 Flash

[hollow ivy]

and secretly they use the unnerfed version to try creating AGI (?)

[split topaz]

It's a deepmind tradition, nerfing the models deeply before the release.

[toxic verge]

Google making Agi is like Hellen Keller going to the moon

[hollow ivy]

yeah, but that's true for all other labs as well

[toxic verge]

What is the crappyest model out there right besides Gemini?

[toxic verge]

Elon musk will reach Agi before Google

[hollow ivy]

Amazon AI

and Llama

[toxic verge]

Google will buy Agi

Like they buy everything

DeepMind, YouTube

And even then they had a Headstart and they lost the talent lol

[west wyvern]

Here we go again with Ai discussion

[toxic verge]

https://www.businessinsider.com/google-deepmind-ai-tool-divide-internal-tensions-2026-4?op=1

https://www.digitaltoday.co.kr/en/view/49819/why-some-google-employees-use-claude-code-despite-gemini

[hollow ivy]

Groundhog Day until heat death ^^

-# lol

[split topaz]

Minimax M 2.7 did not deliver the expectations that much. Hopefully they will fix it in M3 but this release is not the best at all.

[west wyvern]

lol lol

[timid spruce]

ye the problem is this one file they added

[split topaz]

The new models are coming. Excited to see the possible breakthroughs

[toxic verge]

Dude that guy….

He put xai into spacex lol

[hollow ivy]

new tool AI for coding and sandbox-roleplaying, yeah

[west wyvern]

New models are nothing just a bunch of old models that are kept hidden by public

😂😂

[toxic verge]

The last profitable and most money hungry part of the company

[west wyvern]

Here u thinking that new models Exist

[toxic verge]

Google is to busy

[west wyvern]

They Introduced So much

things

Omni

And there are more i cant even Remember

😭😭

[deft spruce]

..well is problem is fixed?

[west wyvern]

nah

[deft spruce]

DAMM

[west wyvern]

i just checked still not working

Damn Ittttt

[deft spruce]

how much times to wait until fIX?

[west wyvern]

hah even idk

maybe 3-4 Hous

Hours

or a day

[dreamy halo]

never

[deft spruce]

......well FXXX

[timid spruce]

SEARCH MODE WORKS

[west wyvern]

More than a week

😭😭

[slender ledge]

We are all leaving arena right?

[west wyvern]

We cant leave Arena

😭😭

[timid spruce]

because the create evaluation isn't there so search mode is still 100%

[deft spruce]

do we have alter?

[slender ledge]

Not yet

[west wyvern]

We can ask them that we will pay 2-3 Dollars perhaps then they will listen

[deft spruce]

until than we can't leave the arena

[austere bison]

They can just make it paid but not expensive lol

Like 5$ max or stuff to use it

[west wyvern]

Yeahh

[austere bison]

They already get some bag from selling our data

[west wyvern]

Yeah even that would work for us

[austere bison]

Which i dont care

[west wyvern]

Lol

[split topaz]

pure Asperger's behaviour 😭. It's like me designing Minecraft type blocks from toes lol. It makes no sense at first glance and a few glances after, it still doesn't.

[austere bison]

Well for now lets just hope that pineapple kept his words

And doesnt leave us

[west wyvern]

Its not like we are feeding personal data to arena

[austere bison]

Idk where else to use claude for free like arena

[west wyvern]

😂😂

Yehah

arena is life

[deft spruce]

is pineapple here?

[west wyvern]

You can use deepseek api too

if want

[weak nova]

do u use Battle Mode to get the good claudes

[austere bison]

Im using direct

[austere bison]

The claude search 4.6

[split topaz]

That was an arena experiment by the way. I mean the second sentence.

[west wyvern]

We need to Support arena we cant let it dieeeeeeee

Damn u arena why are u leaving us like this

[pine meadow]

The problem came back to me

[toxic verge]

Pineapple wouldn’t do us dirty

[pine meadow]

😭

[west wyvern]

Go with Chatgpt Duh What else we can do right now

[timid spruce]

HOLY COW IT WORKS

[sand fulcrum]

HOW

[timid spruce]

I don't have that weird file anymore

i'ma do 7 prompts i'll see

[toxic verge]

No way

They fix it!?

[west wyvern]

Not working

Still

[toxic verge]

Why is it always gotta be extreme, huh?

[timid spruce]

i'm trying to see if the limit is back

[steel steeple]

When nano banana and gpt2 will back?

[split topaz]

I'm backing DeepSeek. It feels like they are the only lab that does still comply with the notion of making "intelligence too cheap to meter". Although I find Qwen nice. It won't be the old Qwen prior to 3.5 ( old team won't return:( )

[fossil gorge]

I dont even get it it’s been 3days what are they doing

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/mexican-dance-crazy-smile-serious-gif-3544964765650518437

Or was

[timid spruce]

after 7 tries... STILL WORKS

https://tenor.com/view/holy-cow-gif-7197834

[toxic verge]

Works!?

[low ibex]

try 8 times or 9 times

[timid spruce]

sure

[toxic verge]

What r u guys trying to hack?

[steel steeple]

Why

What happened

[low ibex]

keep trying, if you still not get the bug, ill check it myself

[toxic verge]

Wait, which one are you guys talking about?

[runic timber]

try 15 times

[toxic verge]

Ohh dang

[split topaz]

Is daily limit 15? When it got cleared?

[toxic verge]

I feel like it’s going to hit me today

[compact flame]

Seems like a fair limit

[low ibex]

what does this mean? 15 limit per day?

[timid spruce]

okay if my theory is good... i know what is allowing me to use arena

[runic timber]

for now, yes

[low ibex]

dang it

[runic timber]

but I guess it's just a bug

but maybe not xD

[low ibex]

how to check it? how do you see the remaining stuff?

[fossil gorge]

But like how’s the agent mode working tho

[sand fulcrum]

It stopped at 15 earlier bro

[timid spruce]

i'm above 15

[sand fulcrum]

Yeah

[ivory temple]

what is it

[fossil gorge]

Doing more then devs

[toxic verge]

So you guys where just beta testers then

[timid spruce]

i'm not even 18

[toxic verge]

Doesn’t show

[low ibex]

yeah that makes sense

[split topaz]

Okay. It's nice at least we have something kinda giving an idea about the usage limits. But I'll still be waiting for the offical announcement though. Because it seems like the errors persist.

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-over-man-tony-zatima-it's-finished-dude-bet-networks-gif-4145680858754779449

[timid spruce]

it's... per account ?

[sand fulcrum]

But there's no rate limit mentioned after you hit the ceiling

[toxic verge]

It’s the weekend come on

[runic timber]

yes

[sand fulcrum]

Like you use specific model

[toxic verge]

Give them a break

[runic timber]

per account

[sand fulcrum]

The team is not even in this server

[compact flame]

We are not sure if it's weekend for them

[sand fulcrum]

How would we know anything

[toxic verge]

They is USA west coast

[sand fulcrum]

These devs should be here giving us insights bro

Instead of leaving us crying out loud

Yeah, if you think it that way

Only moderators are here

[timid spruce]

okay guys, did you use Google to connect to your acc?

[sand fulcrum]

I did

[limber hound]

ye

[timid spruce]

IT'S GOOGLE !

explaination

[compact flame]

I'm not sure but could be AA the dev

[sand fulcrum]

Wdym

[timid spruce]

i have 2 accs

1 with an email, one with google

the one with google doesn't work

[sand fulcrum]

Then how will we use email

[timid spruce]

the one with my @outlook.fr email works

[sand fulcrum]

When we can only require to log in google

This thing is so surreal

I'm not gonna lie

[compact flame]

Just use Gemini at this point

It's free on official google

[wheat heath]

yeah tf guys

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-crowd-waiting-the-simpsons-gif-14161923

[sand fulcrum]

@timid spruce explain yo

[low ibex]

ima try it, you're using what? yahoo?

[timid spruce]

well the one with my microsfot outlook email works just fine

while the one with my main gmail acc has the weird file

[wheat heath]

claude is free on Claude, Gemini on Gemini and gpt image on gpt. arena is for benchmarks stop milking it

[buoyant walrus]

it's too longggggggggggg

[sand fulcrum]

Ahhh

[timid spruce]

wdym

[sand fulcrum]

My status code was fine earlier

[timid spruce]

i'l just trying to help lmfao

[wheat heath]

they should make it paid past x prompts a month/week

[sand fulcrum]

The evaluation create is the problem rn

[timid spruce]

yup

[compact flame]

I'm not sure but isn't Claude free on antigravity

[sleek oak]

I want to believe that this is a mistake and that they just haven't found a way to fix it yet. The limits are too harsh. But I'm not the only one who noticed that intermediaries started cutting their limits in March and May. Take the same Perplexity, which is now heavily focused on more expensive commercial subscribers.

[wheat heath]

claide is free on claude.ai (sonnet) and on antigravity

[low ibex]

ima make outlook email and try to see if its work, ill share info to you later

[timid spruce]

well i don't say i'm not wrong if you know better than me then yea ofc i'd like to hear more, but it's something i saw

[low ibex]

after above 15