general

[proud bobcat]

It’s very in depth with searching

[hollow ivy]

at least, Elon did one good thing: he rented his compute to Anthropic

[proud bobcat]

I use it a lot for understanding Victoria 3 mechanics when the tutorials are ass

[sharp mirage]

no fr the real rank is

1. gemini free editon free img gen and long rate
2. claude super good for coding and super expensive
   3 Grok,GPt grok dont lie , gpt do lie both are bad

[proud bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-leagues-the-big-leagues-are-calling-gif-15928249687245233098

[hollow ivy]

oh and Deepseek is free
not quite frontier, but fun to use (for RPGs)

[sleek urchin]

Lemme use kimi 2.6 thinking for ranking

[sharp mirage]

yeah deepseek is not bad at all

[inland wigeon]

tnx, and its all free?

[sharp mirage]

yeah

but it have rate limt

ig its 2 videos in 24h ig

idrk

[clever glade]

free: gemini decent limits and google account registration(easy to exploit), deepseek(mid llm but no rate limit on web and super reliable), kimi(has a lot of tools on web, good llm,slow)

[hollow ivy]

what is the best prompt for a really fantastic game with Opus-4.6?

[inland wigeon]

Does that mean I can only make 2 videos a day with it?

[sharp mirage]

yeah proble

i am not sure

[wicked talon]

It has rate limits

Deepseek is rate limited

[clever glade]

havent hit rates with deepseek ever

[wicked talon]

I have plenty

[sharp mirage]

well i forgot but you can cheack this out

[clever glade]

unless you mean concurrent prompts

[inland wigeon]

Do you know of any other artificial intelligence for free video creation?

[proud bobcat]

I still think that DeepSeek will always the best for rp and math

No other model can do math like DeepSeek

[sharp mirage]

ig grok

[proud bobcat]

It’s insane

DeepSeek has crushed every problem I threw at it

[wicked talon]

Deepseek is ass

[proud bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-patrick-bottle-gif-6605208024845857705

So far for me it’s been great

[sharp mirage]

here the prompt

it what was good

Design a highly creative, unique, and premium single-page website dedicated to pineapples.

Style: Modern tropical aesthetic with vibrant yellows, greens, and fresh fruit colors. Extremely polished UI/UX, buttery-smooth animations (GSAP-level quality), scroll-triggered animations, hover effects, and delightful micro-interactions.

Fully responsive (mobile, tablet, desktop). Make it fun, informative, and visually addictive. Sections should include: Hero with animated pineapple, About pineapples, Fun facts, Varieties, Recipes, Health benefits, Gallery, and a playful footer.

Use creative pineapple-themed illustrations, subtle particle effects or floating elements, and excellent typography. The website should feel joyful, premium, and unforgettable.

[sleek urchin]

GLM 4.7 Air + Web-Search:
Top models in 2026

1. ChatGPT
   Widely used for writing, coding, deep research, and multimodal tasks. Praised for its versatility and real-world applications [1, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10].

2. Google Gemini
   A top contender in chatbots and productivity tools, often compared with ChatGPT and Claude for performance [1, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10].

3. Claude
   Noted for excelling in instruction-following, content creation, and landing-page generation. Highlighted as a leader in user satisfaction [1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10].

4. Cursor
   Specializes in coding assistance, frequently listed among the best AI development tools [3].

5. ElevenLabs
   Leading in AI-generated voice synthesis and audio-related applications [3].

6. AI Studio
   Integrated into workflows for AI development and prototyping [1].

7. Notebook LM
   Optimized for research and document analysis, enhancing productivity [1].

8. Pomelli
   A newer AI tool gaining traction for specialized use cases [1].

9. Google Labs
   Explores experimental AI features and innovations [3].

10. Gumloop
    Focuses on automation and workflow optimization [3].

11. Higgsfield
    Specializes in creative AI tools for design and media generation [3].

12. Weavy
    Emphasizes collaborative AI for team productivity [3].

[sharp mirage]

credit for banana

[proud bobcat]

Using ai for your opinion

[wicked talon]

Yeah 🙂

[light sleet]

tuff

[proud bobcat]

Use DeepSeek yourself

The new model is just genuinely awesome

[wicked talon]

Deepseek is sooo ahh

[sleek urchin]

True

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-this-gif-4011795153273257473

[proud bobcat]

Can’t wait for DeepSeek V4.1

[sleek urchin]

same

[hollow ivy]

can't wait for Deepseek R2 (based on V4.x)

[light sleet]

who are u 😔

[wicked talon]

Bro deepseek ain't even multimodal

[sharp mirage]

i said the credit tho

[light sleet]

Ik

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/aero-aero-bar-candy-bar-aero-strawberry-scoop-nestle-gif-12422601642845476456

[inland wigeon]

forever is free?

[sharp mirage]

idk

[sleek urchin]

my bots aura>>>

[sharp mirage]

banana

how can i see every produes role ?

[silent tree]

bro keeps sending the same thing everyday

[sharp mirage]

i hate gpt brbo

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/people-who-don't-know-vs-people-who-know-those-who-don't-know-vs-those-who-know-gif-18075947697117816471

[sharp mirage]

i haven't use it since gpt5.1 got rellsed

[silent tree]

then why do u hate it

Lmao

[sleek urchin]

Same, but I stopped using it after 5.0

[wicked talon]

I haven't used gpt since 5.0

[sharp mirage]

cuz itss trashhh

[sleek urchin]

Why do you hate it:
I am sorry but fwnergifbrenguorbwetgyuretghuwEGBRUGBHEUFBwub this is not a lie

[silent tree]

opus is trash

[sharp mirage]

sometimes

[silent tree]

I was not asking u 💀

[sleek urchin]

"Its rigged for Aero"

[sharp mirage]

but at least not lie like gpt does

btw

[sleek urchin]

In its code

[light sleet]

Tuf

[sharp mirage]

how can i know every produes member ?

[silent tree]

I will call @surreal zephyr

[silent tree]

😈

[sleek urchin]

Banana gpt 5.5 or opus 4.6?

[sharp mirage]

pineapple ai

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[sharp mirage]

why this guy so oppssed with gifs ?

[sleek urchin]

deepseek uncensored prompt?

[sleek urchin]

me?

[wicked talon]

That's qwen bro

[sharp mirage]

yea

[sleek urchin]

qwen uncensored prompt?

[wicked talon]

Yeah lmao

[sleek urchin]

Dunno I am just too lazy to type

[sharp mirage]

:/

[sleek urchin]

I have one for deepseek

[wicked talon]

Deepseek is easy

[sleek urchin]

Chinease models are so easy to bypass

[wicked talon]

Qwens works on thinking mode

[sharp mirage]

anyone knonw the pov trick ?

[wicked talon]

Surprisingly

[sharp mirage]

for gemini

[sleek urchin]

Nah

[light sleet]

@sterile tartan disappeared?

[rapid yew]

The agent mode loading messages are so cool😎😉

[high owl]

how to dell a agent mode?

[rapid yew]

Choose from the top left

Battle, direct, etc.

I just tried it out now and have no idea if it is better or worse, but i just liked the text animations

But I must say it is WAAY slower than Battle for example

[high owl]

BANANA

[rapid yew]

PINEAPPLE?

[echo dome]

its on preview

[rapid yew]

Ye-s

[echo dome]

what is this pfp

[rapid yew]

You mean it is not going to run?

I thought they just meant beta

[echo dome]

wrong reply but it depends on how its going to run

[echo aurora]

Since it's a a multi-modal experience, it's designed for more complex tasks.

[rapid yew]

Yeah i get that, i was telling him so if he tries out he knows

[echo dome]

isn't multi-modal experience will cost more

[echo aurora]

Gotcha.

[rapid yew]

Just wanted to ask, if i close the tab, will it keep running since i'm signed in or will it abort

[echo aurora]

This is part why we're moving to a new usage system.

[echo aurora]

I believe it'll still run, I haven't tried this personally though so now I'm second guessing this.

[grave peak]

PLEASE PINEAPPLE I NEED THIS

[surreal zephyr]

hi

[echo aurora]

Agent Mode?

[rapid yew]

I'll try it out now and tell you

[high owl]

[cat]

[echo aurora]

Yeah looks like it does

[grave peak]

gemini 3.5 pro will be on direct mode?

[echo dome]

"please pineapple i need this my ai is kinda homeless"

[grave peak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/please-YZOsKxJfmvzG0

[rapid yew]

Yeah it works

[high owl]

this a animation on agent mode a cool

[grave peak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-crying-sadness-CNt6ZAx90T94RUj5GT

no response

[high owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/fun-pet-pet-fun-8--k01KS2Y2XZ5MBZ6CZSFDJW79E8Z

[grave peak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laptop-screen-monitor-H8h4fz79pn3k04YVrx

[echo aurora]

Couldn't say, overall I won't be able to give much of a heads up on what will or won't be landing on the platform.

[high owl]

@echo aurora

[grave peak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/claude-code-ai-1VI8tnfUZZ0Mr2B1i8

[echo aurora]

Whats up?

[high owl]

THE A CHAT OR A FRIDGE?

[grave peak]

more glaze

[sharp mirage]

yoo

pineapple

[high owl]

sorry... how to delete a agent chat?

[sharp mirage]

i did a story line for our produes thing : D

[surreal zephyr]

e

[echo aurora]

That is still being worked on, we haven't yet added this yet.

[grave peak]

You stealing my question

[clever glade]

is 3.5 pro even real

[sharp mirage]

where can i send it

[echo aurora]

#ai-creations is probably best

[surreal zephyr]

confirmed this year but not soon

[clever glade]

gemma 4 120b too

[sharp mirage]

cheack this out

[surreal zephyr]

hmm

[clever glade]

was confirmed

[surreal zephyr]

(getting 5.5 to mod in atgms 🥀 )

[sharp mirage]

i send it there you can see it if you want

@light sleet @silent tree cheack #ai-creations

[high owl]

do you remember?

[rocky geyser]

I hope the new usage system gets released soon because i have seen myself use arena way less the past few days because of the lack of models and i just hope, the new usage system gets fully released soon and not just more limitations

[sharp mirage]

ohh man

tgatss sooo ollld

[sharp mirage]

died chat

[high owl]

but... why?

[sharp mirage]

idk

[undone geyser]

@echo aurora new usage system release when?

[echo aurora]

There is not an ETA at this time

[high owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/im-not-robot-1--k01KS2Z0BEV7SMBSCTZVY5XVVZD

（＾-＾）

died chat again

[sharp mirage]

fr

[high owl]

?

[sharp mirage]

for real

ig

i gtg

nothing else to do here :/

ping me for chat

[high owl]

print ("Hello world")

and...died chat

[echo dome]

i was reporting bugs on https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1506300390079987742

[silent tree]

Dead Chat

RIP

[surreal zephyr]

love subnautica

[echo aurora]

Be nice to the fish

[surreal zephyr]

gpt image v2 nailed the ui tbf

the style too

[echo aurora]

What was the prompt?

[echo aurora]

Why 10 copies? Just to see what it does?

[vernal saddle]

@echo aurora #announcements message But the Google and OpenAI's models will continue working on Arena trough Max, right?

[surreal zephyr]

because quota is unlimited on pro subs so i always do 10

windows 10 by gpt 5.5 pro

(standalone single html file)

[silent tree]

Gemini 3.5 Flash vs Gpt 5.4 High
"Make me a code type font"

guess the gpt 5.4

[raven stone]

idk

[light sleet]

Gpt 5.4 second and gemini 3.5 first

[silent tree]

correct

3.5 made some bad font ngl

got m mistaken with w

[silent tree]

nice

[carmine scaffold]

hi

[narrow nest]

hello all

[echo aurora]

Yes

Hello @carmine scaffold @narrow nest

[light sleet]

:ablobwave:

nooooooooooooooooo

[carmine scaffold]

hello

[surreal zephyr]

@echo aurora check this out ! 😍

best html os so far

@silent tree u too

@echo aurora <@&1349916362595635286> malware

thats why bot would help 🤔

[echo aurora]

Oooo what is this?

[echo aurora]

[surreal zephyr]

win 10 via 5.5 pro

one of best win 10 attempts iv seen so far

[gloomy falcon]

THEY CAN'T keep GETTING AWAY WITH THIS! 😭

[light sleet]

@echo aurora

just add prohub already 🙏

[sleek urchin]

Thats not safe

[surreal zephyr]

It literally requires 0 permissions to run and only pings mods (or only delete messages permission to auto delete) - so its entiriely safe lol

[sleek urchin]

Its same as giving a 9 year old kid rtx 5090 to play

[sleek urchin]

For sure

and commands perms and hella a lot more

[silent tree]

he just doesnt want it in the server cuz ur the one who made it xd

lmao

😭

when he made his bot to like him and hate gpt 5.5

💀

[sleek urchin]

GPT 5.5 Pro user btw

[echo dome]

arena.ai down

[surreal zephyr]

no it literally doesnt use those

[surreal zephyr]

literally best model rn

[sleek urchin]

150$ model btw per 1 milion

[sleek urchin]

it works fine for me

[silent tree]

claude deletes project

there

money gone to waste

😔

[sleek urchin]

Did it ever happend to you?

OMG I GOT FREE GLM 4.7 FLASH API

[echo dome]

nevermind logged account just exploded

[silent tree]

happens to everyone

[echo dome]

on pc

[sleek urchin]

Never happend to me

[echo aurora]

Hmm again?

Are others seeing the same? Appears to be working for me.

[echo dome]

false alarm

[sleek urchin]

It works for me

[echo aurora]

Okay sounds good. Thanks still for the flag. We saw a bit of an outage earlier today. Wondering if it's related.

[light sleet]

My opinion

Gpt 5.5 ngl

With codex

Is like heaven for me

😭

[sleek urchin]

Pineapple how did you get qwen 3.7 max? if its api not out yet?

[echo dome]

my account just exploded on arena.ai pc so i logged back on

[sleek urchin]

Worse than gemini 3.5 flash

[silent tree]

bro 💀

[echo dome]

idk what does that means

[silent tree]

GPT 5.4 BEAT GEMINI 3.5

In making font

guess gemini

[echo dome]

how do you make font

[silent tree]

didnt even need 5.5

[sleek urchin]

True

ima go eat

[echo dome]

because i want to make fonts too

[silent tree]

bro what 😭

gpt 5.5 score 85

ur bot agrees

there

Its done

[echo dome]

got ignored

[silent tree]

5.5 better

xd

[silent tree]

go to arena

code arena

any desired model or battle or any u want

[silent tree]

ye

I used

battle

[echo dome]

and then what

[silent tree]

dm for the prompt

[short sluice]

weirdly im still logged out on one acc

[silent tree]

I sent the prompt in dm

[short sluice]

nvm logged back in

[pseudo hemlock]

What is this?

[compact flame]

Hey chat

How good is Gemini 3.5?

[echo dome]

alr

[pseudo hemlock]

Hi

[pseudo hemlock]

It’s good

[compact flame]

Like opus level good or just general level good

[pseudo hemlock]

Only used it for a few prompts

So can’t tell you exactly

[compact flame]

Oh ok

[pseudo hemlock]

But at a minimum just general good

[compact flame]

Anyways why didn't google release Gemini 3.5 pro though

[pseudo hemlock]

🤷‍♂️

Probably not done yet lol

[compact flame]

I guess it's still in the works

[compact flame]

Yeah ig

[silent tree]

hi dude

Dude 6 spud

[compact flame]

😭

Hallucinations are hard to get rid off

Especially

When model gets more and more

Params

[mystic solstice]

how can i buy tokens for this or fix this

[pseudo hemlock]

Start a new chat

[mystic solstice]

need this chat

[compact flame]

Gpt 5.5 has around 9.8 trillion parameters

Well that what research says

[echo dome]

"making images for weirdos online" pixai and grok: hi

[echo dome]

(they both make images for weirdos)

[compact flame]

Well it's estimated to be around 9t so I assume so

[silent tree]

same guy who deleted all of his texts to be safe from proof

hahaaah

spud will mog mythos ngl

[compact flame]

There's not a single proof of mythos being real tho

[silent tree]

soo

[compact flame]

Could be a marketing move

[silent tree]

not even a single response xd

theyre gonna say mythos is discontinued but idk

[echo dome]

is this you

[silent tree]

nah hes Craigslist

[compact flame]

And just imagine the hallucination level with 10T parameters

[pseudo hemlock]

Unfortunately there isn’t anything to do about it

[compact flame]

It needs like a lot of training to prevent it from going crazy with so much info

[mystic solstice]

I think I'll have to start the project from scratch

[compact flame]

So technically if this is real

Or close to it

It's just could be chatgpt undertrained

[echo dome]

we need arena.ai scratch mode [troll emoji]

[silent tree]

dw Craig loves gpt 5.5

he agreed to it

hes just getting paid

by dario

[compact flame]

In Google it says to have estimated 200b

[silent tree]

rn

[compact flame]

Ur not fooling anyone

[silent tree]

prove it

[compact flame]

hundreds of billions to over a trillion total parameters

[compact flame]

From google ai research

[silent tree]

heres your proof

[compact flame]

Same thing 200b

[silent tree]

that wasn't your first message ever in this server

was it

1d ago

how come

you joined at March 13 2025

but the first message was 1d ago?

why did you delete thousands of messages

[compact flame]

Gpt 4.1 mini estimated to be 8 to 12 billion params big

Bro might have fake version of Google

Because no way it told him o1 has 4T params

😭

[silent tree]

craig got cooked here

hard

gemini will cook opus in the future

tuff prediction

google is coming

watch out

[compact flame]

He's the misinformation final boss

[silent tree]

ok

lol

whenever people say

that

opus cooks gpt

I send this https://goldime.netlify.app/

same thing

everytime

[compact flame]

I genuinely prefer gpt not because I'm a glazer but because it helps in my certain tasks

[silent tree]

because this mogs opus hard

because your models cost more than life

💔

[compact flame]

Because like opus is buns at language

<@&1349916362595635286>

[silent tree]

<@&1349916362595635286>

enter it

the clocks real too

[compact flame]

Though I'd say Gemini is the best model at language

It helps with my Russian stuff

[silent tree]

u did not have anything else to say 😂

because

[compact flame]

Because it's fancy and people think it's cool so they vote for it

[silent tree]

half arena is filled with kids

that want "simple website"

soo

now u assume that

lol

this means my ragebait works against you

soo

[compact flame]

Who said we can't look through your old messages

[silent tree]

oh hey look

[silent tree]

he should go to private server

this is a public community

[compact flame]

I can say that you glazing opus would be creepy too

[silent tree]

I went through his "public" messages

[compact flame]

So don't complain about public features

[silent tree]

i dont see claude image anywhere

ha ha ha

@compact flame I think this is the first time I've seen him get ragebaited

[compact flame]

Bro thought it was creepy and now he likes it

[silent tree]

@surreal zephyr i did it 🎉

[silent tree]

just like how he switched from gpt 5.5 to opus in just days

because people like opus more

💀

he doesnt want his feelings to be hurt by the opus fans so he joins them

[compact flame]

I guess he prefers public opinion over his opinions

Which is sad ngl

He doesn't carve his own path

[silent tree]

sad

well im happy with my codex

Ill be way more happy cuz claude gonna be discontinued soon

yay

🎉

its a possibility

and spud comes

then u switch back to gpt

faster than light

😭

[compact flame]

Now what is he talking about now

Mythos ain't gonna be public

[silent tree]

Idk if the mythos is ever coming

[compact flame]

It probably doesn't exist

[silent tree]

(not even proof of it lol)

spud is gpt 6

so

spud is more likely

ok wheres your proof

proof?

evidence?

lol

LOL

[gloomy falcon]

Mythos super scary duper model 🤯

[silent tree]

Bro deleted it LMAO

[silent tree]

dw remember

"myth" os

[surreal zephyr]

what

[silent tree]

I ragebaited craig

hes saying random stuff now

lol

[compact flame]

He deleted that one too

[surreal zephyr]

crazy

[silent tree]

LMAO

he keeps deleting his messages

to be safe

[silent tree]

so basically

hes tryna avoid mod action

so he deletes his messages

[surreal zephyr]

crazy

[silent tree]

i got ss

tho

if he tries avoiding

i can easily report

[compact flame]

https://tenor.com/view/what-meme-confused-gif-24781501

[silent tree]

why is he bringing usa into this lmao

he didnt even understand english

[compact flame]

Son net

Get it?

Sonnet

SONnet

[rapid yew]

How long is normal for agent mode?
@echo aurora

It took i think an hour+ without any output

[echo aurora]

Hmm what do you mean? What are you waiting on if you didn't prompt?

[rapid yew]

No it didn't produce output

I gave the prompt and it just loads forever

[sleek urchin]

CLAudium

[echo aurora]

Yeah sounds like it's stuck then. Can you try the same prompt with a new Agent chat and let me know if you're getting the same result? Can I have the Eval ID for the session that isn't working?

[sleek urchin]

Pineapple can I ask you 1 question?

[echo aurora]

You just did

Whats up?

[sleek urchin]

How did you/your team add qwen 3.7 max? if api is not avarible

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/pure-aura-ishowspeed-meme-gif-18225329518632709490

[echo aurora]

It's possible to work with model providers when the model isn't yet available via API

[gloomy falcon]

Yo pineapple I sent you another eval ID for another something went wrong error

[sleek urchin]

ooh I didn't know that thanks :>

[echo aurora]

For Agent Mode? Okay thanks, I'll be sure to send to the team. I haven't yet gone through the #1343291835845578853 and #1372230675914031105 channels yet today, but plan to.

We had a fire drill this morning so things have been a bit slow on my end.

[sleek urchin]

Are you planning to review Arena Champion this week?

[echo aurora]

I am, likely on Friday, but possibly tomorrow

[rapid yew]

How do I get the id 🫣

Problem is it is not even a chat yet

[echo aurora]

It's in the URL. Looks like: 019e4648-690a-790a-be8e-dbe91033c8c4

[rapid yew]

Yeah that is what i mean it is still https://arena.ai/agent

[echo aurora]

Even if you start a new chat? Same thing?

[outer spear]

when is gemini 3.5 flash coming to arena?

[echo aurora]

Yesterday

[outer spear]

ohhh okay. i guess i really waiting for the leaderboard n i know that takes time lol

[sleek urchin]

You need to go yesterday

[rapid yew]

Yep

[outer spear]

bet

[rapid yew]

It's been like 20 mins in the second time

Cause the first failed or something, i came back it wasn't running anymore

[echo aurora]

Text and Code leaderboards were updated yesterday as well - #announcements message

[echo aurora]

How long have you been waiting? Even if you run a simple prompt, same issue?

How long
Sry you just answered that

[rapid yew]

Said hey and it answered at once

Guess i am going too hard on it

I tried it now in canary btw and it's working, so i'm not sure where the problem is

even the same prompt

[echo aurora]

Are you able to share the prompt?

[rapid yew]

It's for a competition

[gloomy falcon]

I've been making a shaderpack with sonnet 4.6 adaptive thinking for the past through days. But I've always been reaching the limits way too often. It's really good at it. Sometimes I do have to modify some things myself to make them work but I'm impressed.

If only ONLY I had Opus 4.7 under my belt then I would've tasked it with sooo many other tasks.

[fluid ruin]

Gpt image 2 bru

[opaque maple]

why does it take so much for the image generator to generate things

[olive mango]

Let's all install a.i. agents and spam the world with funding requests!!!

[echo aurora]

Hey lets not!

[echo aurora]

How long have you been waiting?

[olive mango]

Why not?

[echo aurora]

spam the world

[silent tree]

your gonna be replaced with PineAIpple soon 😔

Pine"AI"pple

[echo aurora]

[surreal zephyr]

that was my joke 😠

[shut parrot]

Hello, when will it be possible to upload files other than pdf to an AI session?

[echo aurora]

Sorry to say I don't have an estimated timeframe I'd be able to share. This is very much on our radar though to add. Very clear to us why this would be beneficial.

[shut parrot]

What about the Opus models, will they no longer be available?

[civic plaza]

Am I the only one not being able to use Agent mode?

[shut parrot]

And I would like to know what an Agent is needed for.

[echo aurora]

We mention in this announcement: #announcements message that "we intend to bring these models back in a way that’s more sustainable when possible.".

For Agent Mode, I'd encourage you to check out this help center article: https://help.arena.ai/articles/1811908126-arena-experiments-agent-mode

[echo aurora]

What seems to be the issue?

[civic plaza]

Now I keep getting this. Seems to be on some chats already going on

I tried to make a new one and just send «test», and it worked

But I tried to continue one chat like this one, and another. And both gotSomething went wrong»

[echo aurora]

Can I have the Eval ID for this chat session?

[civic plaza]

Should be this right?: 019e4652-d1d9-782f-8985-439587ec9c32

[echo aurora]

Perfect, thank you.

[civic plaza]

Same happened in this one: 019e4456-70b9-7814-a619-4117323cf51e

Was one I just tested with earlier. But that one also get «something went wrong» now

[shut parrot]

As far as I understand, I can only use them with a 50% probability.

[echo aurora]

Okay thanks, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same issue, so no need to send others unless you think it's something else creating that error.

[silent tree]

😡

ai

[silent tree]

noooo i feel bad

Dont worry we will take down pineaipple to get u back

@echo aurora when dead chat

(cuz no one asks questions in dead chats)

[hollow ivy]

-# bump

[echo aurora]

Lol, very true

[wild isle]

Android

[surreal zephyr]

nuh uh

[surreal zephyr]

probably 3.5 flash but gpt 5.5 instant is much more efficient

[sharp mirage]

Hello

[spring oar]

you love open ai lol

[silent tree]

claude has 97k members only

damn

[surreal zephyr]

openai is just best

[agile meteor]

🥀 Any help for this? Agent mode has been like this for 20-30 minutes

[strong cipher]

Gemini 3.5 Flash "high" > GPT 5.5 instant-medium
Gemini 3.5 Flash "high" < GPT 5.5 high-xhigh

[echo aurora]

Sorry about that @agile meteor! Can you share with me the Eval ID for this chat session?

The Eval ID is the set of numbers/letters in the URL. Looks like this: 019e4648-690a-790a-be8e-dbe91033c8c4

[agile meteor]

Yes I can Pv or here?

[echo aurora]

Here is fine

[agile meteor]

019e466f-1d96-750f-a9b5-067da72aee4d

[pseudo hemlock]

Hi pineapple

[echo aurora]

Perfect, thank you!

[echo aurora]

Yo yo

[sharp mirage]

Hi

[thin grove]

How is gemini 3.5 flash so far

[sharp mirage]

Prety good

[thin grove]

At coding

?

its pretty creative tho

[crude prism]

hi jsut curios how safe is arena ai ?

[agile meteor]

Could you fix this somehow? Or do I have to create a new chat?

[strong cipher]

My assessment, based on the 10 videos I watched of this:
It’s great for generating code, reasoning, and so on, slightly outperforming GPT 5.5 Medium and only a few steps behind High, but it tends to add a lot of things that are often unnecessary in some cases—though it does so with the aim of creating something more comprehensive (for example, it tends to add too many interactive buttons, and so on), so if you already have an architecture planned out, it’s best to explicitly tell it to avoid that.

[echo aurora]

I wouldn't be able to provide an ETA or a promise that we'd be able to get this fixed. But it will be looked at by the team to try to figure out what is causing this. That being the case, I'd encourage you to start a new chat session.

[echo aurora]

What do you mean by this?

[thin grove]

I find it good creative level

[icy yew]

I mean it won't give you a virus.exe if you fear that so yeah it's safe

[strong cipher]

ye, but in some cases, it tends to include many elements that may be unnecessary, and in doing so, it can reduce its efficiency, since it tries to include too many things and, being a Flash-based model, it cannot handle everything perfectly.

[sharp mirage]

Back

[thin grove]

Im excited for the Pro model

[sharp mirage]

What type of safety are u talking about ?

[icy yew]

What if you want it to be like that you don't even need to Tell it to do it

[sharp mirage]

Probably next month

[sharp mirage]

Yeah fr but ig good prompt won't do thag

[icy yew]

Tbh google has been working hard ts year

Gemini is actually getting pretty good

[strong cipher]

Some videos speculated that there was another model in the Arena series or compared it to the Gemini 3.5 Flash, suggesting it might be the Pro version, but that this version was even worse than the Flash. I hope that’s not the case

[strong cipher]

yup

[thin grove]

why is Muse Spark ranked that much

that high i mean

[sharp mirage]

Not at coding tho they know they can't stop Claude or better then him so they gave
Anthropic 40B worth of servers

[sharp mirage]

Google won't do that

[thin grove]

and how do we know what model is being used in Arena modwe

[echo aurora]

In Agent Mode?

[thin grove]

Yes

Sorry

[echo aurora]

That info isn't yet shown

[thin grove]

oh okay

is it like the max model or like a random pciker

[strong cipher]

There's a new model from Microsoft called MDash, which essentially consists of over 100 agents working in tandem. It has outperformed the current Mythos Preview in benchmarks and has identified over 16 Windows bugs. Of course, it's currently being used specifically for that purpose and isn't available to the public, but it looks very promising.

[sharp mirage]

Nvm I haven't read the full msg yet /:

[echo aurora]

It's going to be random, it doesn't work like Max where it auto-routes to the best model with latency in mind.

[icy yew]

Let it marinate only some time before some people get a hold of it

[strong cipher]

no lol

[echo aurora]

The Video Arena Discord bot has been removed from the server. You can find Video Arena on our site here: https://arena.ai/video

[strong cipher]

just microsoft team can use MDash for the moment

[gloomy falcon]

Didn't take that much effort

[sharp mirage]

How are you so fast /:

[icy yew]

Can it only find windows bugs or is just 100 Agents working

[thin grove]

why

[sharp mirage]

Huh ?

[icy yew]

What

[sharp mirage]

100 agent working together

[thin grove]

why does the plus model require a image upload

[sharp mirage]

I mean it don't

Try it

They mean you can send pictures

[thin grove]

No

i literaslly cant message without posting a picture

[strong cipher]

There are over 100 autonomous agents working simultaneously. I understand that the fewer agents there are contradicting each other, the more weight the response of a single agent carries, and vice versa: some are designed to generate ideas, others to reason, others to refine, others to search for bugs, others to build the architecture, and so on. What has surpassed Mythos is that, although so far they’ve only run tests to find Windows vulnerabilities, they’ve found about six that had been there for over two years

[sharp mirage]

Well just like the top 1 GitHub thing

[icy yew]

Same

I just went to arena you can't talk to it without a image

Weird

[sharp mirage]

Weird

[icy yew]

Cus qwen wanted people to test the 3.7 plus vision on images

Or sm

That's why arena locked it to images needed to talk to it

I had a dream where in arena ai I was using Claude mythos

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-happy-flight-love-speed-gif-8038138526397853486

[echo aurora]

How was it?

[icy yew]

I hacked into something don't know what it was but holy was it fun

Anyways Gn

[thorny schooner]

I still find it annoyed the daily limit doesn't reset until you deplete it apparently

[sharp mirage]

I want nitro so bad /: 😭

[icy yew]

Also we have orbs it's kinda like nitro

[sharp mirage]

:blobthx:

[sharp mirage]

I want the emojis thing tho

[icy yew]

Just use a uhhh special type of discord

You know the free features discord

And if you don't want to do that then rip

[sharp mirage]

Yeah 😭

[icy yew]

Speaking of cats look at this unc cat he's like 5 years old

[sharp mirage]

He must be 10 💀

[icy yew]

An so sleepy

But I don't wanna sleep

[sharp mirage]

Cheack this

[icy yew]

Is this Ronaldo's cat why is the neck action so long

[sharp mirage]

Idk

Baby cat is dangerous

[icy yew]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ai-pufferfish-cat-puffer-fish-ai-pufferfish-cat-ai-ai-gif-3219711934296360561

[sharp mirage]

@echo aurora

[sharp mirage]

Bro cat fishcat before GTA 6

[icy yew]

When chat is dead its pineapples lunch break

[sharp mirage]

Fr

I am fasting );

All arena died tho

[echo aurora]

Now?

[sharp mirage]

Yeah

[lunar glade]

Can I export my entire chat history?

[sharp mirage]

Do a prompt

[lunar glade]

?wdym

[obsidian cargo]

Here's my cat sashimi she's 13

[sharp mirage]

13 days ?

[obsidian cargo]

13 years

we euthanized her slightly older sister ceviche about two months ago

kidney failure

but sashimi is still healthy

[sharp mirage]

Thats sad 😔

How

[obsidian cargo]

kidneys tend to do that

[sharp mirage]

Oh

[sharp mirage]

Do you know what prompt mean ?

[echo aurora]

There is not an export entire chat history feature

[sharp mirage]

I am go watch google io

[lunar glade]

well that's too bad

[sharp mirage]

Do a prompt

I go watch google I/O

[icy yew]

What's I/O

[sweet knot]

All the time: Something went wrong.

Is Arena.ai any good?. Almost all the sessions are interrupted and truncated

[echo aurora]

Is this happening in Agent Mode?

[sweet knot]

No. Either in Side by Side or Direct.

[echo aurora]

Can I have a Trace ID?

[sweet knot]

How can I copy/ paste it? 3

[echo aurora]

Yup

[sweet knot]

Is the screenshot helpful?

[echo aurora]

That's strange. There should be a Trace ID: within the error message for these Something went wrong errors.

You mentioned there are others, do you have Trace IDs for that by chance?

[sweet knot]

I'm gonna make other screenshots from.otger sessions. Maybe, there are some hints or clues..

[sharp mirage]

The google thing

[sharp mirage]

Android eye glass is crazy ngl

[icy yew]

Oh like new fire stuff they have made for each year

[sharp mirage]

Yeah

[echo aurora]

The most helpful thing would be a Trace ID if you're seeing that for the failed chat. If you're not seeing that, what would be most helpful after that is:

• Is it just mimo-v2.5-pro where you're seeing this error?
• If you try a different web browser, do you see a difference?

[sharp mirage]

For this year its was yesterday

[sweet knot]

Nope. It happens mostly with Claude Sonnet 4.6 that doesn't work at all and sometimes with mimo 2.5 and others. Ill look for other sessions

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple i got ur blob servers

: )

[sweet knot]

Max does not work either

[echo aurora]

What web browser is this?

[sharp mirage]

It looks like google

Google app

[echo aurora]

And do you know if you're seeing the same on a different browser?

[sweet knot]

I use Chrome for Android. I have installed Add to Home Screen to use it.

[echo aurora]

Okay yeah I'd recommend trying a different browser and seeing if you see a difference

[sweet knot]

I have used it on Microsoft Edge for Android as well but I guess it is the same.

[sharp mirage]

Try breave

[echo aurora]

I wouldn't recommend this. Arena doesn't play well with this browser I've seen.

[sharp mirage]

I got blob i haven't got nitro 🙂

[echo aurora]

Are you able to Copy/Paste this prompt for me?

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple know more then me so do what pineapple tell you

[sweet knot]

So, your guess is that it is due to browser' s issue not the servers with llms?

[true nymph]

whats 1+1 x 1 - 0 +0

[sweet knot]

The detailed HTML learning module on biological weapons against bacteria apart from antibiotics.All the aspects are to highlighted and covered. The information for undergraduate meducs and pharmaceutical faculties. Provide deep questions and answers with detailed explanations and real situation with solutions. For active vocabulary and questions / answers( solutions) provide audio pronunciation both in British RP and standard American accents.

[echo aurora]

It's hard for me to say. Unfortunately, without that Trace ID it's hard for me to say. But since you're not seeing that, let's do this: Can I have the Eval ID to the chat session where you're getting this error (ideally the one with Max). The Eval ID is the URL when you're on that specific chat.

[sweet knot]

https://arena.ai/c/019e3d8c-8277-7d8d-b124-aff9afe8af3e

[sharp mirage]

1

[true nymph]

son

[echo aurora]

Okay thank you. I'll report to the team.

[sweet knot]

Thank you!

[echo aurora]

Sorry to say I don't yet have a recommended fix for this as it's unclear to me what is even causing this. In the meantime, I'd still check out this article which may be helpful: https://help.arena.ai/articles/1645798556-lmarena-how-to-something-went-wrong-with-this-response-error-message

Scam bots are out

[sweet knot]

Thank you and I'll get acquainted with the article. I just wanted to know whether it is a kind of llms deficiency or it is due to some servers cause many people want to obtain information.

[sharp mirage]

Hi

Can i send a video ?

[echo aurora]

Makes sense. Yeah sorry to say I couldn't provide more information here.

[sharp mirage]

A youtube

[icy yew]

@echo aurora

Bro there are hundreds of these

[echo aurora]

I'm keeping an eye on chat

They're very active right now

[icy yew]

They don't stop😭

@echo aurora

This is getting ridiculous

[echo aurora]

Sigh

[feral elm]

has anyone noticed gpt-image-2 getting dumber?

[echo aurora]

No need to ping me, thanks though.

[feral elm]

good evening everyone

[echo aurora]

Hello

[feral elm]

yellu

[river pendant]

hi

[feral elm]

like it can't do accurate things anymore

I'm trying an older prompt now to see if the result is good still
like if it's comparable

[echo aurora]

Are you able to share an example of this?

[feral elm]

ooh wait I have a better prompt to try

I had no idea that existed

SOTA or bust

[sharp mirage]

I feal bad for pineapple

[echo aurora]

Why?

[sharp mirage]

You do t have free time bro

Ban );

[feral elm]

oh lord

[fluid ruin]

Bro

You're removing it anyway so

It doesnt matter

[echo aurora]

Sure I do

[echo aurora]

From Direct and Side by Side

It'll still be in Battle, and overall I'm still curious

[fluid ruin]

I DONT CARE THATS STILL REMOVING

MONEY GRAB FROM ALL THE USERS

YALLS MOVING INTO BATTLE MODE

[feral elm]

wait what's getting removed

if it's gpt-image-2 it's my fault
too much usage 🥀

[true nymph]

pinnapple

whats happining

why are theere so many deeleted msgs

Oooo scamms

[feral elm]

spam
but what's getting removed?

yeah

[echo aurora]

#announcements message

[echo aurora]

Yeah lots of spam bots at the moment

[feral elm]

youch

[true nymph]

uhhh

im bored

uhhhh

[feral elm]

that's gonna sting

[true nymph]

im gonna send gemmini on a goose chase

[feral elm]

back to 2 image generations a day we go

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple cheack this

[icy yew]

Can you like calm down

[fluid ruin]

No

And your pfp is a laughing baby

You see

Lowk imma stop using arena now

[sharp mirage]

Bro they not peeing money bro

[icy yew]

Also it's not like pineapple is the one who keeps removing the models

Tell that to the board of arena

[fluid ruin]

He control the decisions

I think

Ok bet

Hehehe

Also you forgot to censor j*b

[echo aurora]

I don't think this is very helpful tbh. It's understandable why some are frustrated with the removal of some models from Direct and Side by Side.

[sharp mirage]

Its over used

[feral elm]

makes sense for arena
I never understood if arena pays for inference or if inference providers/companies cough it up themselves

[sharp mirage]

Fr

Like they paing your usage

[feral elm]

like half an hour of Kimi 2.6 ain't cheap but.. ????

[sharp mirage]

Did you see that @echo aurora

[echo aurora]

Lol love it!

[sharp mirage]

Bruh i send wrong one

[icy yew]

Ais are just expensive and probably more every new model is released

[sharp mirage]

This one

[feral elm]

or just you know
people like me wanting to try and get more imagens of historical events

[sharp mirage]

Not for 3.5 flash

[feral elm]

and I get bs like this

(makes no sense)

[icy yew]

What am I looking at

[icy yew]

Also In google flow app you can try nano banana 2 and the normal and imgen4 for free

[feral elm]

supposed to be
Las Médulas
but it's badd

[feral elm]

I have three pro Google accounts I think
well one's school
the other one is not pro for ai
but one is

``tabby cat that's chasing butterflies in a field, mid air, jumping`
anyways when image-2 came out
this was what I got

Imma see what I get when my limit resets

unless someone wants to run it 👀🐦

[sharp mirage]

Do

[feral elm]

maybe it will be worse

[sharp mirage]

This prompt

Prompt

[feral elm]

or better
idk

[feral elm]

awha

[sharp mirage]

A flying car on top of a fruit government and a banana the super hero trying to catch the car that going to crash the government

[feral elm]

@echo aurora my man

[sharp mirage]

@echo aurora

[feral elm]

50 seconds left

[sharp mirage]

Can you do this pormpt ?

Pineapple just goat atp

[icy yew]

Without him this chat would just be scam accounts

[sharp mirage]

Fr

[echo aurora]

Thank you both.

[feral elm]

I'm running it

[feral elm]

tabby test passed successfully

3.1 pro whatever did similar ig
not bad either

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple you free to go we going to ping you if bot or anything

[feral elm]

Gemini is first
gpt-image-2 second

[echo aurora]

Appreciate it, I'm still keeping an eye on

[feral elm]

personally not my style of imagen

[sharp mirage]

Its okay

):

[feral elm]

oh lord

@echo aurora you'll never guess

[echo aurora]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-miss-you-841--k01KS3WW6PNDZP9K7CF5P83E7V7

[sharp mirage]

What wrong with them ):

[sharp mirage]

Banana vince is goat there 🙌

[feral elm]

lmao

yes

Imma show you a thing I tried to bully gpt-image-2 into getting right

like

not what I had in mind but it tried

my idea of the library of Alexandria is much much more interesting and cinematic
may be wrong but I can't draw so my secret is safe

[sharp mirage]

):

[feral elm]

anyways
good
but there's a long way to go still

and I need to sleep now
have fun y'all

[sharp mirage]

Maybe one i get money ):

[undone geyser]

Hopefully after the 22nd, nb2, pro and gpt models are gone, that in 2026 all will return

Claude models, spark, and those 4

[faint willow]

is there anything proven to be better than sora

[true nymph]

why

if you gimmi a reasin to i will

[shy isle]

My prompt is generating infinitely

Is there any way to stop it without making a new chat

[sharp mirage]

Can you explan more .?

[shy isle]

It just says generating

And I can't press stop or send a new message

And I don't want to open a new thread because I have been using this chat over time on my design project

[echo aurora]

Can you try these steps: https://help.arena.ai/articles/8691588590-troubleshooting-infinite-generation

Another method that may help is open a new chat session, send a prompt to the same model, quickly swap back to the chat session that's stuck, and the stop button should be there.

[shy isle]

I've done all of these

[shy isle]

Ohh ok I'll try this and get back to you later

Thanks

[echo aurora]

Sounds good.

Fingers crossed that helps.

[half mist]

The Arena team is acting like Roblox rn. They are ruining their reputation

[icy yew]

So you want them to shutdown?

[half mist]

No, I want them to move forward not backwards

[icy yew]

Then this is what they have to do

Yupp ai was like arena but they didn't remove ANY models
And guess what it got shutdown so unless you want no arena or arena without some ai models

Which do you want

Even I don't like this but they have to do this or they will have to close up shop

[half mist]

I guess that’s fair. Tbh, I am more frustrated at Gemini rn. They added a strict usage limit with a weekly limit as well

[limber crag]

so may 22nd is the day this website dies

[icy yew]

Just use normal Gemini why use it on arena it's not like opus where you have to pay to use opus models even google themselves kinda offer a free site aka ai google studio to use all the Gemini models in without out limits

[half mist]

No, I am frustrated at the Gemini app. They added usage limits and weekly limits to the Gemini app. Arena does it fine because it’s not weekly

[indigo knoll]

what are the limits

[half mist]

One message takes like 10 - 20% of your usage on the free plan

[indigo knoll]

weekly limit? not even daily?

[half mist]

There are two separate limits. There is a 5 hour limit (which goes up fast with a 5 hour reset), and a weekly limit (which means you must wait a week before it resets this one goes up slower).

[indigo knoll]

these limits apply to what model exactly?

[half mist]

10 - 20% usage taken on the 5 hour limit on the free plan for Gemini 3 Flash btw

[obsidian cargo]

so far I'm liking 3.5-flash more than 3.1 pro with side by sides. 3.5-flash is a little bit dumber but it's more creative and definitely more verbose. 3.1 just tries to respond with as little text as possible.

[icy yew]

Wait did they just roll this up out??

[half mist]

Ye

It’s unfortunate

[icy yew]

Man...

[half mist]

I used Gemini because it didn’t have a usage limit, but now I am switching to Claude because of the greedy usage limit on Gemini @icy yew

[limber crag]

"greedy"

[icy yew]

Gemini lord have mercy 😭

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-desert-speed-idiot-mario-bros-wii-gif-4579521032062283911

[icy yew]

Tbh same Claude is way better

[half mist]

Exactly

[icy yew]

It just jumped from 8% to 14 all because of a hello

Yeah am done you got me messed up Gemini

[split topaz]

Only reason I am currently paying for Gemini is that I had hope for Flash and afterwards Deep Research, Lyria, Personal Intelligence and still some hope for Pro.(Also the price was a little discounted for me, 7,65$)

Otherwise,3.5 Flash is a complete disaster

[true nymph]

tell a clanker that its a uline s-8173

[obtuse smelt]

uh recaptcha is strike again

[obsidian cargo]

yeah same

switched to canaryarena and that worked for a while but now it's not working there either

[thorny schooner]

Not surprised though i didn't experience it since I'm still waiting for my limit to refresh lol

[obsidian cargo]

:833a2756-36f1- @echo aurora please…

[wary robin]

what's the difference?

[obsidian cargo]

canaryarena is the beta site

[short sluice]

Been getting more captchas than usual lately

[kindred rain]

I'm human, i think, love this idea and i hope the corporate machine keeps this arena alive despite it being where mess happens more and more, stay alive and resist the macro, please, we need this so we can navigate the ai landscape, when somebody finds this on their own cuz of frustration with the system like me it's important, hello fellow humans

[wary robin]

bro might just be human 💀

[kindred rain]

Anything but that

[old torrent]

Hello

[floral finch]

ZJDJIEIXJWF9WJF9WKFLC9KC9KCECOEKC9EKC0ELC0EKVPEKCOEKCKC9KXOEKCOKCOKEFOKEXOJEFKEFKEF9EJF9JEOFJEOFJEFEK

idk what to say

‌

‌

[kindred rain]

Beep ... xD i feel ya

[tacit robin]

Does anyone know how to delete a chat that is in "agent mode"?

[ornate quartz]

When Claude opus 4.6 or Claude opus 4.5 or 4.7 in direct 😭

And make We can also put .txt files

@echo aurora

[outer flicker]

when they find a way can bring back money

[river moat]

Guys

Gemini 3.1 pro better than Gemini 3.5 flash?

[ornate quartz]

Maybe

[mortal bronze]

Nah

[high owl]

i delete and create account to delete a agent chats

🙂

arena bug moment:

[echo dome]

<@&1349916362595635286> wake up

[surreal zephyr]

<@&1349916362595635286> @echo aurora

<@&1349916362595635286> @echo aurora

[azure cove]

holy

[echo dome]

don't ban him

as its joke images

[surreal zephyr]

prohub wouldve prevented this ™

[whole swallow]

What yall thouths on antigravity?

[surreal zephyr]

massive failure

[whole swallow]

What made you say that?

[surreal zephyr]

3/4 of people cant even login

[fiery gull]

I felt same thing, but the flash 3.5 did some bugs

English please

They don't care if your english is poor 🤣, mine is

[echo dome]

hello russian people