general

[frosty lava]

the speed is unbelievable

same prompt with 3.5 flash and opus and opus take more than 20 minute to do it while 3.5 flash take only like 1 minute, okay its not as smart but the speed make it just way more satisfying to work with

[surreal zephyr]

I want a model with real persistent memory too tbh

[surreal zephyr]

What prompt

[frosty lava]

Nah that was an example, i didn't tried it but when it was on arena for example i remember opus would take literally 25 minute or thing like that, when now i tried 3.5 and even on arena it take 2 minute max

and on antigravity 2.0 its much faster

than it is on arena

[feral kernel]

i love to see Google Winning

[frosty lava]

lets pray for other companies to care about speed too

[surreal zephyr]

They are losing wym

5.5 low mogs 3.5f

[feral kernel]

nah they good i am using it right now

its flash

what do you think

not pro

its not going to be top tier

[frosty lava]

yes and no, cause like i said the speed diff will probably just make them win people

even if its not as smart

[silent tree]

It makes sloppy style websites ngl

ik how to identify something made by gemini 3.5

[surreal zephyr]

Price to performance is awful

[frosty lava]

3.5 pro is next month let's just see

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt is winning in the end

They have best price to perf by far

[frosty lava]

yeah but it matter only on some specific things, it depends on what you want to do

3.5 flash can do most thing

at 10x the speed or more idk

gpt is pricing you 2x for a 1.5x faster output

(fast mode)

same for anthropic

so heres the big difference

[next trout]

u can't even login

[normal abyss]

they fixed that now i think

[inner relic]

bro

that's an flash model

not pro

Imagine benchmark of 3.5 pro

[thorny current]

yay

3.5 flash is here

[frosty lava]

yes that's why its just crazy

[normal abyss]

BRAHHHH

[frosty lava]

your on free thing ?

[burnt sinew]

Is 3.5 flash really that bad wtf

[thorny current]

already cooked it

[burnt sinew]

How is it so trash

[normal abyss]

i asked gemini flash to make the textbox wider, using a CSS command (which did work)

and it just freaked the whole rate limit

[frosty lava]

For some reason im on antigravity and my rate just don't go down ?

[thorny current]

good

[normal abyss]

visual bug, it will drop 2-3 bars at once sometimes

[surreal zephyr]

The fast mode is only priority mode

[thorny current]

i own a pro plan of google gemini

[surreal zephyr]

It runs same it just makes you get more compute

[thorny current]

its unlimited for me

[frosty lava]

Yeah output speed literally mean its just about speed

[icy depot]

3.5 flash very limited use OSS on device GPU qwen 3.6 GGUF or GRM 2.6 Plus fine tuned Qwen

[frosty lava]

but it matter

[feral kernel]

idk what you got goin on but you trpping im using this and its perfect for speed to performance.im using Ai Studio btw now for me at least

[normal abyss]

AI studio is deffinetly better for not getting errors, that i can say

[subtle ember]

U guys have no idea what i am about to generate

[subtle ember]

Its Peak trust

[feral kernel]

idk it looks bad

[normal abyss]

standard context window?

[feral kernel]

yea what is that

[frosty lava]

honestly its much better than i thought for a flash model

[feral kernel]

??

[thorny current]

gemini said itself

[subtle ember]

Its generating

[feral kernel]

oh

[thorny current]

not that bad

[subtle ember]

PEAKK

[normal abyss]

i forgot to say antigravity crashed my entire PC when i asked it to edit the CSS for text box width, idk what that is about 🤣

at least it worked 2nd try

[normal abyss]

what model is this?

its giving GPT image 1 vibes

[frosty lava]

i don't know honestly i didn't have a single issue on the antigravity 2.0 the first one was catastrophic but this one work perfectly

for me

in the first one nothing worked for me

but seems to be fixed

[subtle ember]

Chat gpt pro

I mean 2

[normal abyss]

for some reason every single model errors like 60% more

[subtle ember]

Not pro

Now Im gonna use Nano banana pro

[frosty lava]

i really don't know

[subtle ember]

Peak nano banana pro

[normal abyss]

yeah thats a good one for getting rid of that stock cartoony vibe

GPT image models seem to really lean towards cartoony styles unless you ask it not to explicitly

[frosty lava]

and now can't wait to see if gpt 5.6 are better at frontend

[icy yew]

How good is the new Gemini 3.5 flash? Just saw it got released today

[thorny current]

im trying

[normal abyss]

OH WAIT i think i know why antigravity limits seem worse

they got rid of the "fast" and "planning" modes, thats odd

[frosty lava]

its not as smart as the latest gpt or opus model but the speed make it SO SATISFYING

[thorny current]

to benchmark

[thorny current]

read this

[thorny current]

and this

[icy yew]

That's not bad actually I was expecting worse

[fluid ruin]

@echo aurora WHY

GOD DAMN IT

[leaden palm]

3.5 flash is $9/mtok out 😭

[fluid ruin]

WHY

[unique laurel]

arena is down

[half yew]

Yea I’m done with dis app

[fluid ruin]

I'm also leaving

[silent tree]

lmao

[fluid ruin]

Goodbye bru

[inland quest]

Arena becoming better every day

[fluid ruin]

Too far

[half yew]

Sarcasm?

[molten robin]

NOT AGAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[hybrid obsidian]

I'm curious how arena ai developers are trying to improve their site by removing powerful models

[fluid ruin]

@echo aurora You better change that announcement or we are all leaving

I aint doing this shi again

[inland quest]

No

[narrow sigil]

They will remove gpt image 2

[silent tree]

for costs

[echo dome]

people after reading this

[fluid ruin]

I DON'T CARE ABOUT COSTS GOD DAMN IT

[inland quest]

They are always implementing great features like

[molten robin]

FIRST IT WAS THE OPUS MODELS AND NOW ITS THE GOOD IMAGE GENERATING MODELS

[inland quest]

Uhhh

[fluid ruin]

YOU JUST WANT MONEY

[inland quest]

Idk what

[fluid ruin]

RHATS ALL YOU WANT

[spiral olive]

nooo, at least don't delete GPT-2😭

[still musk]

Nooo why????

[silent tree]

dont be like him guys

[fluid ruin]

ARENA SUCKS AHH

[subtle ember]

Peak

[icy yew]

bro

ARENA YOU ARE FALLING OFF

[fluid ruin]

NAH BRO IM PISSED

[inland quest]

At least we have 3.1 Pro

[narrow sigil]

nah

[silent tree]

ok buy it yourself

[still temple]

Arena total slop now

[subtle ember]

I got these

[half yew]

We will

[honest flower]

The LLM APIs for developers on LmArena aren’t free, just so you know

[fluid ruin]

GIVE US BACK THE MODELS

[icy yew]

I THOUGHT ARENA WAS ABOUT TESTING EVERY AI

Arena fell off

[fluid ruin]

OR IM GON

[remote marsh]

I like how people complain for something that’s free that they’re not not paying other pocket

[fluid ruin]

IDK

[molten robin]

i swear to god if they end up getting rid of something like glm-5 from direct and side by side im actually gonna quit arena

[stray aspen]

Just use gpt image 2 in chatgpt . Com lmao

[half yew]

App?

[inland quest]

Other models generally avaliable on their own sites for free, except claude and chat gpt models

[echo dome]

arena.ai is gonna fall off

[narrow sigil]

time to search for a site with free gpt image 2

[stray aspen]

Mad for no reason

[still temple]

Ppl want high

[half yew]

Aifreeforever

[gloomy onyx]

it's been falling off for months now

[stray aspen]

You have chatgpt com

And davinci

[narrow sigil]

yeah but it has a limit

[stray aspen]

Which is broken

[fluid ruin]

@echo aurora the ratelimits were crazy but this is just bull crap

[honest flower]

They really want flagship models for free and unlimited

[light sleet]

I swear this proves people just want arena for models, they don't care about battle or anything lmao, I never even saw these people here in the discord.

they just appear when they remove models

[next trout]

shhh!

[light sleet]

like buy it yourself

[molten robin]

first they got rid of opus models then they added agent mode which for almost everyone is useless and NOW THEY ARE REMOVING THE GOOD IMAGE MODELS.

[light sleet]

not that hard

[fluid ruin]

What else do you think arena is for

[echo dome]

what if they're in russia

[remote marsh]

lol

[fluid ruin]

It gives them money

[icy yew]

Like we have money

[molten robin]

IM BROKE

[inland quest]

I am actually surprised that thet are removed claude models first, rather then remove image models.

Like, image models costs much more for per turn

[light sleet]

job

[honest flower]

and what?

[echo dome]

same

[remote marsh]

Girlfriend

[next trout]

EW

j*b

[light sleet]

xd

[next trout]

he said the j word!!

[light sleet]

forgot to censor

[molten robin]

like a regular job would make us able to pay for the good models

[stray aspen]

Six seven

[icy yew]

You got me messed up working like a dog to get Claude opus 4.7

[honest flower]

I'm living in Russia and still use flagship models like Opus and Gemini

[silent tree]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-down-aura-LozTbKEFoXAcheLzjw

[hybrid obsidian]

What the hell, why is the amount of fruit in the arena increasing

[narrow sigil]

I will stay because I like to use arena to fill my character cards and persona cards

[vague solar]

theyre removing more models 😭

[molten robin]

i will evicerate you.

[remote marsh]

People with no lives

[light sleet]

Im sorry who are u

[fluid ruin]

We can barely even use sonnet as its 3 hours per minute

AND NOW THIS

I HATE YOU

GIVE US THE MODELS BACK

[light sleet]

lmao I never even saw these people here in the discord they randomly appeared to hate, especially @fluid ruin

[icy yew]

Just accept it arena fell off it's never going to be like prime days

[hybrid obsidian]

I'm a vegetable

[honest flower]

buy it

[stray aspen]

Not even paying lmao

[silent tree]

shut yo "us" ahh up @fluid ruin

[molten robin]

sonnet 4-6 is alright but its way behind opus 4.6

[remote marsh]

I agree

[silent tree]

buy it yourself

[fluid ruin]

I've been in the discord longer than you've been on discord

[silent tree]

giant horse

[stray aspen]

Can't be mad buddy

[remote marsh]

Time for a nice mute

[silent tree]

horseshit

[light sleet]

30 April 2026

[molten robin]

they really should add model fusion

[light sleet]

Lmao

[fluid ruin]

Lowk my account

[remote marsh]

lol

[fluid ruin]

Got suspended

3 times

[light sleet]

hes born in discord in 30 April

[remote marsh]

You might get suspended again for the fourth time

[light sleet]

fr

[buoyant badger]

can we just take into consideration that they take away opus , took away gemini and gpt for a while , brought them back and now taking the best image models on the planet away again?

[fluid ruin]

Ill just get a new one

[silent tree]

eaooedjzeisis8ieisoosoeoo

[fluid ruin]

Ye and this pmo so bad

[arctic totem]

when they removing like the best models for image generation, which model should I use then? this annoys me pretty much, I just found this site lol

[remote marsh]

get a new one

[molten robin]

they should add a suggestions forum

[fluid ruin]

My head hairs are older than u btw

[inland quest]

They didn't brought anything back, lol

[remote marsh]

Not unless they ban your IP doesn’t matter what type of account you get after that

[stray aspen]

Stop

[inland quest]

Except 3.1

[molten robin]

becuase not everything is gonna be a model request

[icy yew]

Atp just make all models Chinese so it's free for arena to deploy

[stray aspen]

They are gonna mute all of you

[subtle ember]

THE WHOLE HOUSE MAD AHHHH

[buoyant badger]

Thats what i mean lol

[half yew]

Why wasn’t this a problem before

[inland quest]

Which is surprising

[silent tree]

pineapples gonna hit a jackpot rn

[subtle ember]

THE WHOLE HOUSE IS MAD

[silent tree]

especially the horse guy

[remote marsh]

lol

[molten robin]

none of us really care right now

[remote marsh]

He needs to, and they need more people

[stray aspen]

Pineapples getting. A Raise from all these rule breakers

[molten robin]

we just mad

[still musk]

Guys, what do you mean they're removing GPT Image 2 and Nano Banana?

[abstract plinth]

guys yall saw the new gemini 3.5 flash?? its so sick

[honest flower]

moderators, could you maybe enable slow mode in the chat? It’s absolute chaos in here

[silent tree]

ISTG THE "US" AND "WE" IS CRINGING THE FAHH OUT OF ME 😭

[buoyant badger]

Look at #announcements

[molten robin]

WE NEED MODEL FUSION

[half yew]

Can’t switch the subject rn

[silent tree]

@echo aurora honestly thank u for removing them, Im excited for credit system

[still musk]

Yes I read it but why??? I think it's fake

[stray aspen]

They are removing them

[echo aurora]

I don't think it's too bad, keep an eye out, thanks though

[stray aspen]

Thats what it means

[solemn osprey]

just add ads to the site atp cant just remove every single model worth a damn

[half yew]

ETA??

[molten robin]

SO I CAN DO STUFF LIKE SONNET 4.6 AND GLM-5

TOGETHER

[inland quest]

People who can read:

People who cant read:

[abstract plinth]

yeah.. everybodi madd

[molten robin]

NOT SIDE BY SIDE

[icy yew]

Wasn't arena for testing and giving feedback on every popular ai what happened......

[silent tree]

@fluid ruin needs a punishment

[remote marsh]

Not everyone only the people who get it for free they don’t know how to spend money is mad

[mint vigil]

Bro its so bugged

[silent tree]

keeps swearing

ok

im gonna mute everyone

😡

[honest flower]

It’s just starting to feel more like a raid, lol

[mint vigil]

Why even with vpn its infinite generation

[echo aurora]

I've got it under control, thanks though

[still musk]

How do we then create the images on Arena AI?

[normal abyss]

ouch

[buoyant badger]

When arena announces they are removing a model , they will remove that model. They took away opus , gemini and gpt and now image models as well(they brought back some gpt and gemini but not really)

[stray aspen]

Using the image mode

[remote marsh]

Or a ban for the fourth time since he said he already got banned here three times

[abstract plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/angry-girl-angry-blue-haired-girl--k01KS0Y4N0MFGKJG68KHB5EA2R3

[silent tree]

Np, u chatting here is kinda dangerous rn these people are REALLY mad and are saying anything they can

[mint vigil]

Can someone Help me? I test

[remote marsh]

https://giphy.com/gifs/magicedenofficial-crypto-emmy-magic-eden-ckeHS60ZLGAHAy4viu

[light sleet]

true

[normal abyss]

Keep in mind guys it will most likely be a temporary change.

Gemini 3.1 Pro came back

[honest flower]

Apart from the removed models, there are others in Image Mode.

[still musk]

I don't know, when I read the news that they're removing GPT Image 2 Medium, I refused. Maybe they'll add GPT Image 2 High?

[echo aurora]

It's understandable why. Having models removed from Direct and Side by Side isn't a good feeling.

[buoyant badger]

Fair enough

[silent tree]

well i dont feel the same way honestly, its good because if they stayed arena would go downhill

[inland quest]

Its temporary until new credits system

[stray aspen]

Gemini 3.1 is free everywhere

[buoyant badger]

Maybe but I very doubt it

[molten robin]

@echo aurora there should be a suggestions channel for non-model requests. i actually have a suggestion for arena which i think would be cool. model fusion. the kind of thing openrouter has but more accessible. cant even use the free models on openrouter.

[stray aspen]

People want stuff like opus and 5.5

[silent tree]

i pay for my own stuff, I use arena to evaluate 🥹

[crude anchor]

The worst news from the arena is always the next one. ( Just a joke, pls no ban me)

[inland quest]

Which with high probability will be bad

[remote marsh]

Same I’ve run my own local with hyper space

[honest flower]

opus is expensive even for Claude itself lol

[echo aurora]

There is! Would encourage you tell us about this in #1372230675914031105

[honest flower]

in hardware plan I mean

[crude anchor]

opus cost so much

[still musk]

GPT Image 2 was already released last month, how come they will remove it now?

[stray aspen]

Yeah but its smart as hell

[buoyant badger]

We cant deny costs are getting higher but like they are the primary model testing site in the world rn

[mint vigil]

Brooo someone help meee

[stray aspen]

Its expensive

[icy yew]

I ain't got nothing against the people who work with and for arena even discord mods/admin
But seriously what happened bruh did they go into bankruptcy why are y'all removing like I guess you know prices but man it used to be a lot better back then

[remote marsh]

Probably half of the people who don’t even know what hyper spaces are used for unless they do some Google search

lol

[mint vigil]

Something went wrong with this response

[echo aurora]

Don't worry, we don't ban people for voicing concern or frustration

[buoyant badger]

at least we got gemini 3.5 flash ig

[mint vigil]

Can please me just

Help me*

[crude anchor]

W PINEAPPLE

[normal abyss]

and 3.1 pro, thats still a W

[light sleet]

because "back then" there weren't stronger models

Stronger = more expensive

[echo aurora]

Can you share the Trace ID to this channel: #1417174113092374689 ?

[stray aspen]

Arena is not like yupp LOL

[honest flower]

clear browsing cookies

[light sleet]

@stray aspen notice how the most mad ppl suddenly disappeared when pineapple came 💀

[mint vigil]

Just this response

Evertytime

[honest flower]

bro tf are you trying to generate...

[mint vigil]

Bro i work with football art

Edit image

[normal abyss]

ikr, it must be aura

[icy yew]

I hope this gets better arena is my go-to website for using paid models and hopefully this doesn't get worse

[echo aurora]

Paying attention to inference cost is something we'll always have to do. We aren't bankrupt, these steps we're taking is to ensure we don't do that. We will be around for a long time.

[buoyant badger]

Does anyone know how comparable the new qwen 3.7 max is to like 3.1 pro or even 3.5 flash( I havent compared both of their stats yet)

[light sleet]

fr

[subtle ember]

Atleast we got gpt 2 image

[light sleet]

We'll just have to see how the new usage system goes.

[honest flower]

banana is aura farming

[silent tree]

whats the point of this poll bro

💀

[honest flower]

bro why...

[hybrid obsidian]

I suggest the developers improve their website

[subtle ember]

Do we still got gpt 2

[icy yew]

These new change are pretty necessary ig if they don't do this the end will be same as what happened to yupp

[honest flower]

it's already good enough

[thorny current]

btw, V4 is latest

[light sleet]

yupp did it to themselves they didnt know what was coming for them

arena knows

thats why arena is alive rn

[hybrid obsidian]

I know, I wanted to take the dumbest model

[honest flower]

||ban wave?||

[light sleet]

if arena never removed opus or any other frontier model rn it would've gone downhill

so be grateful 😡

[silent tree]

tuff

@surreal zephyr alert!

[subtle ember]

Guys we still got this dw

[narrow sigil]

Where?

[light sleet]

I have It unlimited, highest quality, faster but higher quality

[silent tree]

same

[icy yew]

What's that

[plucky basalt]

free
?

[silent tree]

Chatgpt Pro Subscription™

[buoyant badger]

They brought back 3.1 pro and gpt 5.4 so i dont know what the problem with opus would be. Personally id rather have opus 4.7 rather than gpt-5.4 or gemini-3-flash

[light sleet]

no chatgpt pro

[normal abyss]

what site is that?

[plucky basalt]

okay brother

[subtle ember]

Its Krea ai

[honest flower]

4.7 is VERY Expensive

[silent tree]

not free on site

[silent tree]

only in ios app

[hybrid obsidian]

devs pls add opus-4.8-thinking-maximal-super-flash-mega-high-not-hot-dumb-arabicEdition

[icy yew]

I can deal with no Gemini
Gemini itself is very generous with using the pro models

[honest flower]

LmArena has costs associated with other APIs, servers, developers, hosting and so on; if everyone were given free access to Opus 4-6 / 4-7, the site would shut down the very next day

[buoyant badger]

Yh i mean i have Gemini Ai Pro as a whole so its better for me and I think a lot more people would appreciate removing the older models on arena which removes costs and can be replaces by newer models , just a suggestion tho

[remote marsh]

lol

Is it the best when you got over 25 models and they all work on your local

[honest flower]

I wish I had a gpu

[remote marsh]

Depends what gpu

[icy yew]

Actually they should just remove the old unc models to save cost on ais nobody uses

[remote marsh]

And it’s cool. Some of them are filtered and unfiltered, meaning restricted, and unrestricted models

[honest flower]

at least 2080 Ti...

[buoyant badger]

Basically yh

[remote marsh]

Woowooo

[remote marsh]

I don’t even have a 2080

[honest flower]

bro I have Radeon Vega 6

[subtle ember]

A T O M I C A T O M I C A T O M I C A T O M I C ATOMIC🥀

[plucky basalt]

no way the updates are actually significant lmao

[indigo knoll]

Image 2 nooo

[subtle ember]

Ts Ur son?

[silent tree]

AI

gpt image 2

[whole glen]

Nope

[honest flower]

please ban him already

[silent tree]

so AI

[whole glen]

Mute him

[whole glen]

Test it

[silent tree]

tested

verified

[buoyant badger]

I think arena should add the:

claude-mythos-4.8-spud-extreme-max-plus-limited-thinking-websearch-hermes-openclaw-hyper

[remote marsh]

i’m running off of a laptop AMD ryzen 5 with AMD Radeon Gm graphics, and RX 6550 4 gm and 32 rams

[whole glen]

Anyways imm leave since alts aren't allowed or something

[remote marsh]

Why would alt be allowed like kind of stupid question is that

[light sleet]

bro

and hes reporting members like a cop

mods he using alt!!

💀

[remote marsh]

He is

And more then one account on arena

I bet

[light sleet]

ofc

people like this exist

but hey it wont work

[remote marsh]

What they should do is generate a token with that person’s discord like that people don’t need to worry about no more about alts

[honest flower]

I'm sorry your father said that to you

[light sleet]

he wont be able to bypass limits

[remote marsh]

I’m sure if you have another account you’ll bypass limits unless they have an IP integration

[icy yew]

Arena needs to delete every ai and just deepseek r1 unlimited
Take it or leave it

[light sleet]

with VPN I think yeah

[remote marsh]

Not too sure, but there’s a way to integrate into the website that VPN are not allowed

[light sleet]

yo @echo aurora make it so that uhh, uhhhhh remove all models and release pineapple 1.4!!!

[whole sundial]

worth noting that gpt image 2 costs around 4 cents in the configuration that arena uses

[remote marsh]

Trust me if they could do it in crypto games and other servers I don’t see why not

[light sleet]

brave goat

[honest flower]

no :(

[remote marsh]

There is a way

[light sleet]

Pineapple 1.4 score 10k?

[remote marsh]

But then I will lead two people out of the country, wouldn’t allow them to join the website unless if they use any connection is allowed except VPN, which is possible

[light sleet]

tuff

but uhh

I dont think thats what he said

but uhh

[whole sundial]

they should remove every model that costs more than 4 cents per image at this point if they think it is too expensive

[remote marsh]

Certain models are free. If you have it running on your local now to use the server to keep up that’s something different.

[light sleet]

they should remove all models and add pineapple 1.4

[honest flower]

google how expensive are these models

[light sleet]

🍍

[compact comet]

4 cents times millions of users over month is a considerable amount of money

[remote marsh]

It’s is

[honest flower]

pineapple 1.4 has the biggest context in that whole world

[remote marsh]

Even 1 cent is best deal

Basically what I do for others, especially for my private hyperspace

[light sleet]

1q btw

[remote marsh]

Then let them go somewhere else, instead of crying like a baby and complaining about models being taken away

[icy yew]

Money money money per 4 cent

[remote marsh]

People like that they need to go touch some grass and if they don’t have a girlfriend you could use a FiFi and get some lotion

[remote marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

Is pineapple any good I don’t think I ever use that one yet

[honest flower]

it's not even a need to think to win Claude

[thorny current]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-clap-clapping-clapping-gif-gif-688975345850652698

[remote marsh]

Brb

[buoyant badger]

Imo they should remove all the models except from the top 7 models from the core 5 companies:
OpenAi
Anthropic
Google
Deepseek
Qwen
(maybe kimi for limited time)

Nobody uses the other models and keeping the costs is a bit more expensinve rather than pouring everything into 35 specific models

It sounds dumb dont get me wrong but this is a suggestion of arena ever starts failing rapidly

[compact comet]

brother

[buoyant badger]

Yes

Thanks

[compact comet]

claude alone costs more than every other cheap model combined

[buoyant badger]

Remember that arena has like 90-100 models that nobody uses

And we only use the top 3

[compact comet]

exactly

[buoyant badger]

Why not just phase out other models

Slowly

[shrewd citrus]

aw goodbye to the image models

[compact comet]

why does that matter

[honest flower]

Exactly. No, the other models are there to provide an ALTERNATIVE just in case; if we were to keep only the ones you mentioned, LmArena would simply lose its purpose – it would just be a website with free AI.

[light sleet]

rip benchmarks

[whole sundial]

...that's not how this works, think of it this way: if someone is using a cheaper model and that model is removed, then they'll have to move to a more expensive model that is still available and may not be as good for their use case

[buoyant badger]

Fair point

[light sleet]

@echo aurora finally out, leaderboard scores dropping tomorrow

[thorny current]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-cat-dancing-cat-shaking-cat-throwing-it-back-gif-10806306915292406588

[light sleet]

accidentally reacted a flag on your message mb

a interesting flag

💀

[echo dome]

rip other image models that are too peak

[honest flower]

just use Flux with good prompt

[light sleet]

forgot to change it from my double tap emoji idk when it got there and how it got there

[whole sundial]

and the cheaper models are mainly there for the leaderboards and for trying out if someone wanted to use it

[light sleet]

just uhh

buy gpt pro

and lifes good

and use codex

[buoyant badger]

It might be better in fact , but remember that the money from the costs of that cheaper model get transferred over to the more expensive model rather than getting it all spread out , which kind of somewhat nullifies the fact that the model is more expensive. Now dont get me wrong if you use very expensive models it will still be expensive , but less

[light sleet]

and use gpt image 2 high insane quality which is fast and unlimited and tuff

[grave peak]

https://tenor.com/view/islamic-dance-remix-gif-7233363

Updates like this help us maintain availability for everyone over the long term, and we intend to bring these models back in a way that’s more sustainable when possible.

[honest flower]

maybe if I can buy it...

[compact comet]

again, no

[grave peak]

U can't be serious

[icy yew]

The main problem is money I can't pay above 0$ for ai

[buoyant badger]

tell me how

[compact comet]

claude opus alone costs 5/25

nobody uses the cheaper models

come on, think

[echo dome]

people rn: "come on bro pay your own bro come on don't beg"
people without money:

[honest flower]

job application

job application

[echo dome]

we know

[light sleet]

today's models removal revealed the ppl that only used arena for free models

like i never even saw those people here before

[abstract plinth]

wen will you bring gemini 3.5?

[buoyant badger]

And still , im trying to tell you exactly that. Just removing the cheaper models would take just a bit out of arenas total cost out of them which could still be less expensive for arena to run more expensive models. The whole reason why they are removing all these image models is that they cost a lot( i think at least)

[light sleet]

Its already there!

scroll down and you'll see (or search)

Gemini 3.5 Flash

[echo dome]

you can just use deepseek

[abstract plinth]

i tried scearching

[compact comet]

do you actually not get it or are you just trolling 😭

[buoyant badger]

It might not make sense but for me it does😭

[light sleet]

.

I use gpt

[whole sundial]

i don't even use arena anymore unless they have a model i want to try that isn't on openrouter, baidu ai studio (for ernie), or fal, which is rare

[grave peak]

Is not there bro believe me

[abstract plinth]

OH IT IS THERE

[echo dome]

ah yes chatgpt that got blocked on russia

[abstract plinth]

OMD

[buoyant badger]

Idk for me it seems like we are talking towards the same point ahahah but i may just be a bit stupid

OHHH

[light sleet]

well rip

[buoyant badger]

Nvm

[compact comet]

okay let's put numbers on the problem

[buoyant badger]

I know what you are talking about

[light sleet]

gemini 3.5 jumpscare

[compact comet]

let's say the cheaper models combined cost $5M/month combined

[buoyant badger]

Im talking about in general you are talking about claude itself

[compact comet]

claude opus 4.6 costs $5M/month combined

[echo dome]

"just buy models"

russia on their way to ruin everything: hi

[buoyant badger]

Yh

[light sleet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tuff-why-is-he-so-vFEDEcCxckXcSS09PG

[grave peak]

Just Russia

[icy yew]

Use vpn

[whole sundial]

can't wait for gigachat 4 to beat gpt 6o spud

[echo dome]

so that's why i visited lmarena from years ago (first time)

where opus models

[icy yew]

Gone

[grave peak]

https://tenor.com/view/son-sonion-walking-walking-slow-guy-gif-3446823128170294184

[echo dome]

"where is" not "where is him"

I'm talking about years ago

[light sleet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9mc-smile-cat-sad-so-lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI that was a nice story bro..

[honest flower]

VPN exists

[light sleet]

bruh gif link came

[honest flower]

also, you can buy model subscriptions in Russia

[light sleet]

not tuff

[echo dome]

they gonna upgrade system to detect vpns soon

[honest flower]

vless with xhttp is very very hard to detect

[icy yew]

While am in Iran somehow connected while internet shutdown has gone on for 3 months you can surly connect to a vpn in Russia

[light sleet]

u better delete that

[solemn osprey]

slop detected

[abstract plinth]

why..

[light sleet]

mods will do it the hard way

[echo dome]

no agent mode

[light sleet]

im sorry to tell

[abstract plinth]

its not allowed

[honest flower]

that would be painful

[abstract plinth]

?

[light sleet]

Spicy Fried Chicken alert!!!

[solemn osprey]

lol

[light sleet]

no it counts as advertising I believe

[abstract plinth]

oh

[honest flower]

LOL

[light sleet]

Spicy Fried Chicken is cooking something up

in the chat

[echo dome]

agent mode is... kinda broken

[echo aurora]

If you're running into issues please share in #1506300390079987742

[icy yew]

Wait there is a agent mode?

[quasi atlas]

Hey! Remember to ping moderators for mod requests only.

[light sleet]

yes

[echo aurora]

Yes https://help.arena.ai/articles/1811908126-arena-experiments-agent-mode

[echo dome]

i have 4 gb ram

[hot fox]

bruh i know this one it send rickroll messages if u set it up or the api 💩

[light sleet]

no actually, he sent a jewish celebration which is kinda unrelated and then said the announcement pineapple said 💔

[echo dome]

already sent you issues
you ignored it

[light sleet]

just asked to delete the gif message, its not too related to the topic given below it

[echo aurora]

I'll double check that. I have pings to still get through.

[echo dome]

ok

[solemn osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-thinking-in-though-agreeing-gif-8805500278928097826

[light sleet]

ok now I can ping mod for that

but nvm

action taken

before ping

fast mod

Alr guys ima go sleep, GN

[solemn osprey]

https://blog.chrislewis.au/snowboard-kids-2-is-100-decompiled/

massively accelarated by claude and friends

[echo aurora]

Take care

[icy yew]

Don't let the radiation bite

Get it cus banana radioactive

Am soo funny

[honest flower]

I know how to sort out this mess with models constantly being deleted from Side by Side

Remove Side by Side

[shrewd citrus]

alright buddy where’s your £250M donation then

[honest flower]

where

[icy yew]

Hmmm in Gemini app am seeing two flash versions of 3.5
Normal flash
And flash lite

[thorny current]

yup

the 3.5 dropped few hrs back

[icy yew]

Is flash lite actually that faster or is it way dumber then normal flash

[thorny current]

see these pics

[loud herald]

Faster

[icy yew]

Alr anyways Gn it's almost 1 am

[thorny current]

yeah

its 2:30 something here

AM

[loud herald]

None of these matter lmao. I mean yea flash is right up there and even better than some of the SOTA but I am mainly talking about the 3.5 vs 3.1 its pointless, its just making 3.5 look better than it acutally it

[thorny current]

i tied 3.5 flaush using canvas
i own a pro sub

[frosty lava]

the speed make it much more usefull not gonna lie, smart model will be necessary ONLY on specific things

[thorny current]

but it failed 4x

[icy yew]

I mean doesn't every ai do that to himself

[loud herald]

Wdym

[loud herald]

A smart model is necessary in everything. Why would you care about a model being fast if it isn't smart

[icy yew]

If if It comparing it's own models it tends to make it look like it is a bigger jump then it actually is

[loud herald]

Intelligence over speed will always be better

[frosty lava]

yeah i did not say it was so dumb its not usefull

[loud herald]

I know that but you said being quicker is more important than being smart in most cases

[frosty lava]

exactly, cause the same task can be completed by both if its not too complex

[thorny current]

yup

[frosty lava]

ofc if you want to do something very complex you want a smarter one

[thorny current]

yeh

[loud herald]

In real life situations where you're out and want to ask something, sure quicker but its pointless if its dunb

[frosty lava]

But its not dumb at all

its just not as good as the frontier one but its NOT dumb

there is better but it does not mean its dumb

and remember its only the flash one

[loud herald]

I am not saying that model specifically

I am speaking in general

Intelligence over speed will always be the play

[frosty lava]

Then yeah you are right

[icy yew]

You gotta balance it so fast enough it really quick but not to dumb it can't solve basic math problems

[frosty lava]

i don't agree cause like i said it just depends, the smartest way is to use model depending on what you want to do

using 24/7 the best model is not the best way

if you care about cost at all and more

and especially if this said model take 10x longer

[loud herald]

Then tell me

[frosty lava]

to do the same thing

[loud herald]

What do you think is going to achieve AGI or ASI? Speed or intelligence

[frosty lava]

why not both ?

fast model does not equal dumb

[loud herald]

Because thats not how it works

[loud herald]

I never said that

[frosty lava]

a model can be both smart and very fast, it just depend on the compute

in the future it'll be that

[loud herald]

Not on the compute, depends on the architecture and how its trained

[frosty lava]

but also on the compute and compute is a very big part

at some point we will have good enough compute to have all model going as fast as the 3.5 flash now and even faster probably

[loud herald]

Gemini makes a big deal about having as low compute cost as they can

Or google mb

Compute is only getting lower in price

OpenAI and Anthropic just have the compute to be able to keep scaling

But everyone else, they are making an effort to lower cost and compute

[frosty lava]

Yes ? but that's not a problem, in the future openai and anthropic will also have faster model probably, as you can see with now fast mode, in the future it'll be the normal mode and probably be even faster

its not only about cost its for the user too, using fast ai are just better overall its more satisfying its saving time

and since it depends on compute it wont make model dumber

if we just use best available compute, and compute that's evolving through years

especially for ai

[loud herald]

Anthropic wont raise their model speeds. They have great training but just refuse to fix their lame architecture

LLMs are not the future and never have been

[frosty lava]

We will see

[gloomy falcon]

I'm laughing at Gemini 3.5 Flash right now. What the hell is this model?

2% usage from one hello message. 😭

[loud herald]

As long as you use an LLM it will never improve past a certain point

[loud herald]

Its $9 every 1M tokens, and what was the message it sent back

[frosty lava]

That's completely hypothetical and not proven, it is getting better are you denying it

for every companies

Im not saying LLM will be FOREVER the best thing

but it is progressing

[loud herald]

What??? How is that hypothetical

[frosty lava]

if your saying that its not progressing at all its just wrong

[loud herald]

What they want to do is achieve AGI and ASI, thats LITERALLY impossible with LLMs

[loud herald]

I never said it wasnt, I said theres absolutely a cap

[gloomy falcon]

Here was the conversation.

Yeb....
Insane for me.

At this point it's better to use it on Google AI Studio then the app for me.

[frosty lava]

Then yeah definitly

but we don't need asi for a model to be usefull:

[surreal zephyr]

Why image v2 removed

[loud herald]

Notice how GPT 5.5 was an upgrade but not a breakthrough? Thats because they're are scaling so much they cant handle it and it wont improve past that. Same with anthropic

[gloomy falcon]

I accidentally sent two images I think

[gloomy falcon]

Costs.

[loud herald]

All of them removed because of expense

[surreal zephyr]

You literally get 25k generations in 100$ monthly sub 💀

[loud herald]

Okay well arena uses API not subscriptions

You get much more out of subs than API

[surreal zephyr]

Still cheap as hell

[loud herald]

I'm not denying that but its also multiple models

They arent gone at least

Just in battle

[frosty lava]

Scaling was the easiest way to improve model and it COULD NOT last forever

now they have to be smarter and do architectural progress

[loud herald]

Neither will the way we train AI

[frosty lava]

yeah it will change completely, be much more efficient and all

its the purpose

[loud herald]

When we train AI, WE tell it whats wrong and whats right. Just like in say books, eventually some stuff may be proven otherwise. Then what? Retrain it?

But eithber way

The future is having AI train itself and decide on stuff itself

Thats real intelligence

We are training AI currently to be assistants while telling everyone that we are making leaders

[frosty lava]

But i don't need it just like no one else really need ASI or what you call AGI (cause the meaning is unsure honestly) for it to be very usefull

i can already tell ai are Very usefull

and its getting better and faster

[loud herald]

Plenty of people would need ASI or AGI

And AGI comes before ASI

[frosty lava]

why would they "need it"

[loud herald]

AI is usefull but not all the time

[frosty lava]

Yeah but honestly its already more than enough to be used in enterprises and by many people, and its getting better at frontend and all

[loud herald]

Because if I give my AI a task, I want it to create me a program right, I give it a prompt and it builds the messy base of it. I don't want to keep prompting it. I want it to take my prompt like "Make a cool modern program that reads books for you" it will work with that until its fully completed in its eyes

[frosty lava]

and if its faster too then its already a Very big thing to the world

[loud herald]

But AGI people think will be considered a race. Its real intelligence. Real intelligence that has knowledge over anything

Its smarter than humans

Do you understand how many advancements we'd make in so little time for humanity?

[frosty lava]

Yes in the future it'll be doable and then more usefull if it work like you say, but its not necessary theres a difference

it'll be smarter and do better work

but its already good

[loud herald]

Thats until it destroys your entire database and backups (claude)

[frosty lava]

One error does not mean it'll happen everytime and yeah there is risk to use ai especially if you give it full access no restriction and all

[gloomy falcon]

I've been using too much of the new Agent mode on Arena. I'm obsessed with it.
It's always not convinced that it can install packages. I always have to tell it that it can and can take screenshots to inspect it's work.

Does anyone know what models they're using for the agent mode?

[icy yew]

How do you even use agent mode where is it on llm arena

[loud herald]

Clearly trying to prove my point is useless here, AGI just would be much better for humanity as a whole. I don't care about how good it is right now. It can get better.

[frosty lava]

For breakthrough in healthcare for example there is specialized model we wont use a single ai for EVERYTHING

that's greedy to think that way imo, right now its greedy

[loud herald]

That isn't one error. Its happened multiple times and then that "one error" destroyed a multi million dollar companies database, thats not okay and AI should not be trusted

[echo aurora]

It's in the same drop down where you select Direct/Battle/Side by Side, but note it's an experiment and hasn't yet rolled out to everyone

[loud herald]

Absolutely not if it can be better. Why do you think we have people going day by day trying to improve it?

[echo aurora]

Glad to hear you like it! There is still al ot of work to be done with it.

Does anyone know what models they're using for the agent mode?
That lineup hasn't yet been shared.

[frosty lava]

Yes, like i said it will be better but its almost as you were saying right now its all bad and useless and stupid

[loud herald]

Thats not greed, thats thirst. But its alright right now, lowering compute and cost is currently a huge priority

[frosty lava]

i was trying to say its not

[abstract tundra]

I hope so. Personally for me it's not that great.

[loud herald]

Why would I say that if its not true lmao? Thats not even close to what I was saying. I never said its bad here. I said to trust it is bad. I could never trust AI with my life or my digital database. Not claude at least, because claude seems to like destroying stuff.

If it were useless we wouldn't even be having this conversation

Better yet, arena probably wouldn't even be a thing

[frosty lava]

Then yes if that's not what you meant i agree with you, LLM right now are not the future, but its still very good and usefull right now, and its progressing even if its not as fast as it used to cause of the scaling limit

the future will probably be something else than llm and trained differently

but we're not at it yet

[gloomy falcon]

I've tried to make it run Minecraft and it did. It sent me a bunch of screenshots running the game.

Funni model

[loud herald]

Whoa thats actually really cool

[loud herald]

@echo aurora Top 10 advertising moments haha, you should use this when advertising it

[frosty lava]

running minecraft on your phone ?

[icy yew]

Hold up

That's tuff

[gloomy falcon]

It's running it on it's 2GBs of ram Xeon CPU without a GPU. I'm surprised it even got the game running.

[icy yew]

Pineapple get me agent access NOW

I NEED THIS AM
Kinda agent mode less

[icy yew]

Could it cut down a tree

[echo dome]

agent committed again

[gloomy falcon]

It tried to. Then stopped out of nowhere. I could see why it's in preview.

[icy yew]

Man I need agent mode

This so rigged

[gloomy falcon]

Next step trying to get it to run a Minecraft server on its CPU and 2GBs of ram.

[thorny current]

try VPN

[gloomy falcon]

Hey Bob man I could send it a bunch of tasks you want it to do.

[echo aurora]

I heard it's on https://canaryarena.ai/ (but you didn't hear this from me )

[echo aurora]

WE DID IT 🎊

[echo aurora]

Personally for me it's not that great.
How so?

[whole sundial]

they can't afford to give out an image gen that costs 4 cents per image but they can afford to give their agent mode vps servers 2gb of ram and a xeon core

[icy yew]

Pineapple you are one of kind may you forever oversee this DC

[whole sundial]

(btw i do pay the api prices for gpt image 2, i'm just upset that they decided to remove a model that is so cheap even though there is still flux.2 max, grok imagine image quality, etc. that costs more)

just make it 5-10 per day like chatgpt

[gloomy falcon]

Sorry guys I used to much agent mode and used most of the compute and it got rid of the image generation. 😔

[gloomy falcon]

I'm on the free plan and I get 50 images per day.

OpenAI likes me.

[thorny current]

how

[gloomy falcon]

Has to blur the image with Gemini and THAT DIDN'T HELP

[icy yew]

What am I looking at

[gloomy falcon]

Even Gemini rejected bluring it it didn't want to.

[gloomy falcon]

It wasn't even a complex prompt it was just this.

It just went through the guard rails just like that.

[thorny current]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-10312546

[cerulean glade]

There is the site called DaFreeAi

[abstract tundra]

Errors out for large requests and isn't good at creative ideation or long lists of ideas

[gloomy falcon]

I'm super lucky to have 50 images per day absolutely for free.

And the limits only last a hour.

[echo aurora]

Something went wrong error? If so, can I have the Eval ID to that session(s)?

[icy yew]

With chatgpt ?

[gloomy falcon]

Yeb.

I'm not even lying.

[icy yew]

No way 50 of tham things with a 1 HOUR lmit

[pseudo hemlock]

Is 3.5 flash benchmaxxed to hell?

[abstract tundra]

i think i already gave you one

[gloomy falcon]

3.5 Flash can't write a path tracer for me while back then Gemini 3 Pro did it no problem.

[echo aurora]

Okay will take a look. If you have, I've likely already shared with the team.

[solid ore]

How is that possible?

[gloomy falcon]

I have no idea. But that's generally how it is for my account.

And even if it's less then 50 it's only a hour then I'm back.

Either Sam Altman has a crush on me or my account is bugged.

[hollow ivy]

could Opus 4.7 do it?

[gloomy falcon]

Wait pineapple I think I have the same bug for some of my sessions. The model just randomly stops or produces a something went wrong error.

Or the model takes too long to respond. And even I try resend the message it doesn't even try.

[gloomy falcon]

If I had money I would've tested it.

Anthropic doesn't like me.

[thorny current]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[hollow ivy]

have you never got Claude Opus in battle?

[gloomy falcon]

Never.

[hollow ivy]

or you could try with Sonnet

[sharp mirage]

Yooo

Wsg

Bro I missed Gemini 3.5 lunchh

[gloomy falcon]

cough

[icy yew]

Gemini lowk the most generous of ais infinite images you can send it

[sharp mirage]

@echo aurora hi

Did I miss anything ?

[thorny current]

a little war

[sharp mirage]

Oh :/ what happend ?

[echo aurora]

If you could send the Eval ID that'd be very helpful!

[echo aurora]

Hello

[echo aurora]

Na

[abstract tundra]

my main issue with Agent Mode is what I already posted in Feedback, that it would be great if all available models CoT'd together to output quality content and a long one. currently it's not that good with writing and condenses long form content a lot to save tokens

[sharp mirage]

Hi 🙂

[icy yew]

Arena removed more models today like a hour ago Gemini 3.5 launched aka the flash version for now

[thorny current]

nothing much, ppl were arguing over 3.5 flash, gpt 5.6/6 and opus

[gloomy falcon]

How do I do that?

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple did you say the pineapple car ?

[echo aurora]

Btw the announcement about the model removals isn't happening until Friday. We're just giving everyone a heads up.

[echo aurora]

Nope

[sharp mirage]

I send it

Wait

[icy yew]

And two fine gentlemens were yapping about if faster ai better or slower ais for like half an hour

[icy yew]

Oh

[echo aurora]

Eval ID is the random set of numbers/letters in the URL when on a specific chat session. Looks like:

019e2e08-410b-741c-953c-c56f6c93630d

[sharp mirage]

Here you go

[gloomy falcon]

Oh got it. I'll send it to you now

[thorny current]

ye
also, arena added pineapple model which ranks # 1

[echo aurora]

Hell yeah

[thorny current]

.

[sharp mirage]

I know you love cars : )

[echo aurora]

Where we going?

[sharp mirage]

To produces government

[echo aurora]

Also

[echo aurora]

Toupee

[sharp mirage]

Maybe

We can fix it tho

[thorny current]

hey, cherry
u saw this?

[polar horizon]

aye aye someone launch a new website ASAP

i can't believe these mfs

[sharp mirage]

This is my first miss a ai lunch

After gpt 5.2 got rellsed

[polar horizon]

launch a competitor bro
please
these guys cannot be real

[thorny current]

who?

[sharp mirage]

Oh

I saw it now

[polar horizon]

arena ai bro who else

[gloomy falcon]

Max knows ball

[polar horizon]

they taking away the best image models

wrap it up

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple is the top 1 allways

[thorny current]

oh, yeh

[thorny current]

Max says it aswell

[icy yew]

I mean that or gets shutdown forever

I don't want it to end up like yupp

[polar horizon]

atp ill take the forever shutdown
website is completely ass without gemini and gpt's best models

the text models
not so ass

but everyone else's image models is complete buns

[gloomy falcon]

They still exist. Battle mode still has them.

[sly cedar]

Whos better Pineapple or Pizza? 🔥

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple I got you

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple : )

[wicked talon]

Pizza

[polar horizon]

ain't nobody writing 10 prompts and praying to get blessed with one Gemini response

[sly cedar]

What about durian?

[echo aurora]

Going to ask we keep conversation here more respectful. The frustration is understandable, but being disrespectful isn't helpful.

[sharp mirage]

I made a pineapple girl but I lost it :/

[sly cedar]

Its non binary 🙏🏻

[polar horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-friday-shoo-go-away-gif-4389994

[icy yew]

Why do you even need gpt 5.5 unless your doing NASA level exams every day

[wicked talon]

.

[polar horizon]

furry roleplays bro

it's peak with 5.5 and opus

[wicked talon]

Qwen does the job just fine

[pseudo hemlock]

Pineapple is the goat

[polar horizon]

not falling for qwen propaganda

[icy yew]

I mean there is c.ai just use that

[polar horizon]

also
qwen is completely free no limits is on the site

[polar horizon]

yooo
i was joking y'all

im not doing ts💀

[sharp mirage]

But Gemini He has a different opinion

[gloomy falcon]

Who generally uses c.ai? Ha....definitely not me

[icy yew]

Is that Arabic

[sharp mirage]

Yeah my phone Arabic for some reason

Btw pineapple what do you think about the fixed picture ?

[icy yew]

I love those chats where the ai suddenly becames attracted to you and start getting closer and closer and ...... Okay no

[wicked talon]

...

Qwens a bit mad

[polar horizon]

ayoooo😭😭😭

[sharp mirage]

Bro might be infected with c.ai /:

[polar horizon]

it be annoying sometimes

[wicked talon]

You gotta fall for it g

[polar horizon]

I've gotten molested by bots multiple times icl

[wicked talon]

Or qwen will find you

[polar horizon]

qwen im sorry💔

don't send the ccp for me

[gloomy falcon]

They are obsessed with the neck bro. They want to rip it off 😭

[polar horizon]

"stop shoveling your food down ur throat" son

[polar horizon]

i stopped using c.ai tho

became ass

[wicked talon]

You don't wanna see the rest ...

[polar horizon]

used to be peak

[sharp mirage]

Let's keep This conversation with artificial intelligence (AI)

[polar horizon]

what the hell did you do to qwen💀

you made bro a freak

[icy yew]

One time I was kidnapped by a Russian dude and like I was the presidents son or sum and he tied me up and did some
VERY not safe things

[polar horizon]

aye qwen i ain't groveling for nobody

you a HOE

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-laugh-clap-gif-18203230752197306459

[sharp mirage]

U need a mace

[icy yew]

That was all the past am changed man now

[sharp mirage]

Pineapple do something /:

[gloomy falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/wemmbu-gif-8402148766696177024

[sharp mirage]

Then use a spear (:

[polar horizon]

...

why qwen lowk right

damn

[wicked talon]

Cuz it spitting facts

[polar horizon]

mane I gotta reevaluate my life

[sharp mirage]

Ask him who is better a cherry or pineapple

[sharp mirage]

Bro might be gork

[silver thicket]

/imagetovideo

[polar horizon]

qwen thanks for that

imma change my ways

[wicked talon]

Bet

[polar horizon]

YOU DONT HAVE TO BE MEAN QWEN WTF

IM TRYNA BE NICE

🫩🫩🫩🫩

[hollow ivy]

pinapple pizza is the best :)

[abstract tundra]

Plot twist: There are no AI models on Arena. There's no way so many expensive models would be hosted for free. It's actually pineapple completing every single request of every single user on the spot. It was never AI.

[sharp mirage]

He is grok under cover

[polar horizon]

grok is one of the most annoying ai bots oat

[gloomy falcon]

Grok the goat

[polar horizon]

bro forgot to censor the last word

[wicked talon]

I forgot a swear 😭

[polar horizon]

im crine

[thorny current]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-face-im-surprised-pikachu-gif-26500978

[wicked talon]

Don't make me call qwen g

It will eat grok alive

[sharp mirage]

Even grok calling a pineapple a legend

[sharp mirage]

What about me bro :/

[sharp mirage]

Well I am who made the pineapple ai so

Nice brother

[sharp mirage]

Broo what about me

[abstract tundra]

Oh no, you're now gonna liquidate me for exposing this secret

[icy yew]

Cherry it ain't looking good for u

[wicked talon]

I deleted the chat too early 😭

Lemme ask again

[sharp mirage]

They all now

[remote marsh]

lol

[thorny current]

this is what gemini said

[hollow ivy]

toasted pineapples don't eat you back, right?

[wicked talon]

Bro called you evil

[abstract tundra]

Those who know

[thorny current]

read gemini's reason
its kinda logical

[sharp mirage]

Well I was evil Larry

If you know

[abstract tundra]

Gpt 1 is best ai

[icy yew]

Lame

0.5 best

[thorny current]

u in ancient times

[sharp mirage]

Why bro is so mean 😭

[thorny current]

dont know

lemme ask him

[abstract tundra]

Clippy is best ai

[wicked talon]

Eww Gemini

The most censored ai

[sharp mirage]

So I got beaten up from pineapple

[thorny current]

kinda moew mean

[abstract tundra]

Gpt is more censored

[thorny current]

cherry read this if u want to feel knocked out by pineapple

[sharp mirage]

Well at least I am a chipper

[icy yew]

I can't open grok next to my parents it has -1 filters
I like a standard safe ai

[wicked talon]

Okay qwen started saying racial slurs I think I'm gonna have to let it sleep

[thorny current]

yup

[sharp mirage]

At least it's cheaper too

[wicked talon]

Hahaha it can't be that bad

[abstract tundra]

Grok has no issue doing it with custom instructions

[sharp mirage]

Where did pineapple gone :

[wicked talon]

Lmao I know

[fluid ruin]

Pls can someone tell me theyre not removing the image models

[sharp mirage]

@light sleet

[icy yew]

They are unless you want it to end like yupp ai

[sharp mirage]

Check this chat out bro

[fluid ruin]

Wdym what happened