general

[light sleet]

@torpid mountain

Wrong moderator

😭

[storm dust]

not you business mod

im ping modmail

@ModMaıl

[sleek urchin]

Pineappleeeeee

[sleek urchin]

I fixed web-search bug :>

[silent tree]

whats ts spam ahh

[meager fulcrum]

Stop it

[surreal zephyr]

Hi

Wtf

<@&1349916362595635286>

[slender ledge]

Ik

[surreal zephyr]

@quasi atlas

[slender ledge]

Some was spamming it

[surreal zephyr]

Who

[slender ledge]

Idk

But if u do = help the bot comes

With no space then

[south charm]

@echo aurora

[hardy swallow]

I’ve reported it to Pineapple, please let’s wait!

[hollow ivy]

Could Rust be the best language for AI-assisted coding, if runtime-performance is important?

[south charm]

maybe

[slender ledge]

An member was spamming the command

Look who did it

And ban him

Or warn

[surreal zephyr]

Assembly

[hollow ivy]

And when purely vibe-coding? (the AI would do 100% of the coding)

[hollow ivy]

when vibe-coding?

[surreal zephyr]

C++ or rust or python or react

[hollow ivy]

python is way too slow and react is browser-based
i meant a language, which AI can debug, and whose binaries can be run directly on the desktop, without a browser

C++ produces weird bugs and seg.faults

[surreal zephyr]

Python is easy and common

[hollow ivy]

so only Rust?

what about C (not ++), Java, Go, C#, Mojo, Zig, Nim, Julia, D, Crystal and (modern) Fortran?

[surreal zephyr]

are you writing kernels? then C

others arent popular enough

python rust c++ js/react

only good for ai

[silent tree]

#leaderboards getting attacked again

[surreal zephyr]

lol

https://giphy.com/gifs/wolf-red-arrow-circle-hKqxkEmh2K3bYW74gy

[light sleet]

@hardy swallow i truly appreciate your support on trying to fix chat as much as possible

[surreal zephyr]

we need ai bot

autobans

anyone

who sends 4 images

or writes same word twice

🔥

[light sleet]

find a better bot than modmail

😭

[stone snow]

yo chat i thin ktheres something wrong with my ai

42 minutes is crazy

it barely did anything too

[south charm]

yup

[south charm]

oh hell

overthinking final boss

[fluid cove]

Hey is agent mode as good as having a good ai model like claud

or github copilot

[prime mulch]

Guys any major new update in ai in these previous 2 months i been offline im not that updated for past 2 months

[young garnet]

<:warning:892823499205406760> Channel locked

@pineapple.___. · May 12, 2026, 2:53 PM

[echo aurora]

Going to get this cleared up with the bot and will unlock the server. Sorry for the inconvenience everyone! We’ll be back soon.

[echo aurora]

Okay, we're coming back, thank you all for the patience.

[young garnet]

<:success:865860339278413864> Channel unlocked

@pineapple.___. · May 12, 2026, 3:39 PM

[median smelt]

Hi

[whole sundial]

so is the modmail bot fixed?

[median smelt]

Dude no way hidream got added

[rocky geyser]

Yayyy

[median smelt]

To arena

[rocky geyser]

The channel is unlocked again :D

[echo aurora]

I think so, we'll see

[silent tree]

So were you guys able to find

[obsidian cargo]

what did I miss???

[silent tree]

Out

Who it is???

[silent tree]

Modmail spam

[surreal zephyr]

what happen to mail bot

[median smelt]

Noo hidream is not in direct sad

[silent tree]

Covid-Arena lockdown will be remembered

[surreal zephyr]

the new one

[echo aurora]

Just felt like changing this up a bit is all

[median smelt]

Another random sora video I made cause I was bored

[whole sundial]

time to dig out my protest sign from when grok 4.3 was not added to direct chat (although that was a communication error)

[silent tree]

Did you guys find who did it?

I hope u banned them

HARD

with Pineapple Missile

boomm boom

[whole sundial]

just so everyone knows hidream-o1-image costs 1 cent per image on the platform arena is likely using

they will now use this as an excuse to remove every good image model, i guess arena really is running out of money

[vagrant temple]

Why am I no longer getting a response in Agent mode?

[silent tree]

@young garnet tuff

[young garnet]

<:error:865860636084142150> Command not found

There's no command called tuff.

[silent tree]

Nvm

[surreal zephyr]

hi

👋

🧇

[whole sundial]

wouldn't be surprised that the next announcement is the removal of gpt image 2, nano banana pro, nano banana 2, grok imagine pro, mai image 2, and every other good image gen model

[silent tree]

Hi sam

[surreal zephyr]

what was the bot

doing

?

[silent tree]

idk

spam

smth

[surreal zephyr]

with what

[silent tree]

IDK MAN

[surreal zephyr]

what did happen

[whole sundial]

@echo aurora please add hidream-o1-image to direct chat, it only costs 1 cent per image

[silent tree]

some help command

Goofy ahh command

[whole sundial]

and nobody's going to use it anyway since it isn't that good

[echo aurora]

This is on our radar btw. I know we're already chatting in #1502836447168692324 , but if others are having a similar problem ping me there with the Eval ID.

[surreal zephyr]

what =

[silent tree]

No advertising allowed here.

[silent tree]

= help

but no space

but I'm not doing it

[surreal zephyr]

=help ?

[oak python]

That command does not exist. Use =help to see all the commands.

[silent tree]

yea

[surreal zephyr]

idk

[silent tree]

they fixed it yay

[surreal zephyr]

they fixed?

=help

[oak python]

ModMail Help Menu

ModMail is a feature-rich Discord bot designed to enable your server members to contact staff easily.

Please direct message me if you wish to contact staff. You can also invite me to your server with the link below, or join our support server if you need further help.

To setup the bot, run =setup.

Invite

https://modmail.xyz/invite

Support Server

https://discord.gg/wjWJwJB

Use the reactions to flip pages. (Page 1/8)

[echo aurora]

I think because the ? was added

[silent tree]

Idk

[echo aurora]

Yeah

[silent tree]

NOO

still not fixed

[surreal zephyr]

uhh

[silent tree]

man

[surreal zephyr]

i think its not fix

[whole sundial]

just take away the bot's perms to chat at this point

[silent tree]

pineapple got automodded

again

[rocky geyser]

How are yall doing?

[silent tree]

he wrote hm

and

its deleted

xd

[surreal zephyr]

lol

[rocky geyser]

lmao

[whole sundial]

you should be able to disable message perms for the bot in all channels except mod channels

[surreal zephyr]

yes

[rocky geyser]

Yea

[silent tree]

perfect

[echo aurora]

Yeah that's what I'm doing now, I reset the perms earlier but apparently didn't work

Can one of you try =help again in #general ?

[whole sundial]

=help

[oak python]

ModMail Help Menu

ModMail is a feature-rich Discord bot designed to enable your server members to contact staff easily.

Please direct message me if you wish to contact staff. You can also invite me to your server with the link below, or join our support server if you need further help.

To setup the bot, run =setup.

Invite

https://modmail.xyz/invite

Support Server

https://discord.gg/wjWJwJB

Use the reactions to flip pages. (Page 1/8)

[whole sundial]

noooooo...

[rocky geyser]

🤣

[echo aurora]

COMEON

[silent tree]

Lol

Pineapple Ragebait encountered

Rarity: 0.10%

[whole sundial]

it's an admin, you can't take away perms like that from an admin

you have to remove the admin perm from its role first

[echo aurora]

Kk try again please

[surreal zephyr]

=help

[oak python]

ModMail Help Menu

ModMail is a feature-rich Discord bot designed to enable your server members to contact staff easily.

Please direct message me if you wish to contact staff. You can also invite me to your server with the link below, or join our support server if you need further help.

To setup the bot, run =setup.

Invite

https://modmail.xyz/invite

Support Server

https://discord.gg/wjWJwJB

Use the reactions to flip pages. (Page 1/8)

[surreal zephyr]

hehe

[silent tree]

Pineapple Ragebait

[surreal zephyr]

pinapplebait

[oak python]

ModMail Help Menu

Core

My prefix is =. Use =help <command> for more information on a command.

reply

Reply to the ticket.

areply

Reply to the ticket anonymously.

aireply

Use AI to generate a response based on the context and the prompt, with optional additional instructions. This command will prompt for confirmation.

close

Close the ticket.

aclose

Close the ticket anonymously.

closeall

Close all the tickets.

acloseall

Close all the tickets anonymously.

blacklist

Blacklist users to prevent them from creating tickets. If no users are provided, this will blacklist the user of the current ticket.

whitelist

Whitelist users to allow them to create tickets. If no users are provided, this will whitelist the user of the current ticket.

blacklistclear

Remove all users from the blacklist.

viewblacklist

View the blacklist.

Use the reactions to flip pages. (Page 3/8)

[echo aurora]

Yeah something just isn't adhering to perms

[surreal zephyr]

applepin

[echo aurora]

Okay just removed the bot for now

Ugh

How annoying

[surreal zephyr]

=help

yup

[silent tree]

=help

yup

[surreal zephyr]

poor bot

[silent tree]

poor bot

[surreal zephyr]

sad

[silent tree]

sad

[dawn abyss]

What is this

[stone snow]

pretty sad

[whole sundial]

now how are people supposed to contact staff? ig re-open dms for now?

[surreal zephyr]

what is what

[dawn abyss]

Ai revolution is here

[silent tree]

what is what

[echo aurora]

[e-mail]

[dawn abyss]

And "it wasn't in the memo, please reload" message?

[stone snow]

or jsut contact them here

[echo aurora]

Until I get this sorted out

[surreal zephyr]

lol

mail 😭

[whole sundial]

you should make an announcement too

[silent tree]

Bro I'm not gonna mail 💔

[dawn abyss]

,..?? @echo aurora

[silent tree]

what was that

[whole sundial]

so people don't get confused when trying to dm you when they notice modmail is gone

[silent tree]

I just saw

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-gru-minions-banned-gif-14031268419019377907

[echo aurora]

Sorry what?

[silent tree]

I saw someone write the word

looked like noire

kinda

[whole sundial]

that was very out of character for them but i imagine they got banned for that

[echo aurora]

This will be temporary, shouldn't take long

[dawn abyss]

I got this message on lm arena while using the ai, it was "ai revolution is here, this session wasn't in the memo, please reload"

[silent tree]

Did you ban them?

the person

That just said the slur

rn

[whole sundial]

also check this message out @echo aurora

[echo aurora]

Where the full screen is black and you just see that error message? Can you hard-refresh the site?

[echo aurora]

I'll share with the team, did you alreayd post in #1372229840131985540 ?

[whole sundial]

no excuse imo to not add such a cheap model

[dawn abyss]

Yes, i refreshed it and it's working

[surreal zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1212420778000126012/1267869077737701461/maximum-tension.gif

[whole sundial]

it's on arena, just not in chat

you can get it in battle

ik it's on arena

[echo aurora]

Oh I see

[surreal zephyr]

pinapple not know own model

😭

[stone snow]

chat gpt's fake screenshots are so realistic that it's almost scary

[whole sundial]

to be fair he is a community manager, not part of the team in charge of adding models to arena

[silent tree]

gpt image 1.5 so realistic i cant believe it!! 🤯

Its like realtime!!

🤯 😱

[echo aurora]

Looks great!!!

[echo aurora]

Although the buildings are out of place

[stone snow]

was that with ai

[surreal zephyr]

(he is joking)

[echo aurora]

I think it looks good

[surreal zephyr]

its not that bad but its clearly ai

img v2 is on another league really

[whole sundial]

image 2 would likely do better, i noticed that image 1.5 can remember things but not in the right location/order sometimes, image 2 doesn't have that problem

[silent tree]

@echo aurora guess the person to win 1m pinecoin!!

And become a millionaire-pineapple

[stone snow]

i mena can someone show me an ai image that you cant tell is ai

[surreal zephyr]

here

[stone snow]

third?

maybe first too

[surreal zephyr]

there we go - you havev 0 idea

[stone snow]

which one was it

[surreal zephyr]

gas valve broken

[surreal zephyr]

wont say until you guess right - which ones are ai and which oens are real

[whole sundial]

the numbers on the dial are messed up

[stone snow]

1. ai 2. real 3. ai 4. real 5. real

thats my guess

[surreal zephyr]

yeah ur cooked bro

[stone snow]

we're all cooked

[surreal zephyr]

its
ai ai ai ai real

[stone snow]

no way

[surreal zephyr]

mhm

yes because i told you before

[stone snow]

this one is real?

bro

[silent tree]

whos we

[stone snow]

we, as humans

[median smelt]

watermelon

[surreal zephyr]

lol thats not really checking tho

lol

[whole sundial]

looks like the mr beast crypto scam bot forgot to upload attachments

[surreal zephyr]

i couldve cropped them

[silent tree]

bro

[stone snow]

yup

[median smelt]

Real or ai

[loud herald]

There’s no way to remove the help command or something?

[stone snow]

ai

[median smelt]

incorrect

Its real

[surreal zephyr]

whar

[median smelt]

MrBeast actually wants to kill nick wilde and judy hopps with a passion

[surreal zephyr]

watermark

krkrkrkr

markrkr

wate

marker

[stone snow]

will agi be able to make images? if so how would it look like

[surreal zephyr]

warmar

walmart

[median smelt]

Idk

But prob like

real life

[surreal zephyr]

bro never heard about 4o

[silent tree]

Idk

But prob like

real life

too

[stone snow]

whats 4o

[median smelt]

Son son son sahur

[silent tree]

Son son son sahur

[surreal zephyr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/chat-gpt-f0VbswUmSY6X1cBz4C

green

[whole sundial]

they are finally killing off the original gpt image 1 later this year

[median smelt]

Watermelon stop

[stone snow]

make hte image really weird

[whole sundial]

mini will still be there though

[median smelt]

Piss tint gaming

[surreal zephyr]

real or ai?

[median smelt]

Idk

Maybe

Pick up a pencil

Stupid

[stone snow]

how did it know to make an image

[median smelt]

ai green is fake green

[surreal zephyr]

Tuff

[median smelt]

human green is better

[whole sundial]

also today is the date of dall-e's death

[silent tree]

Alien Musk!!!

hidream first impression

in arena

[median smelt]

nvm looks like shi

[silent tree]

insanely shi

[silent tree]

like cant even get Elon Musk right

[surreal zephyr]

Look this

[median smelt]

MrBEAST

MR BEÆÄ ED DFHJDNJDJD

[stone snow]

imagine ai in a few years

[surreal zephyr]

@median smelt @silent tree @stone snow

[stone snow]

i did one like this

[median smelt]

Lemme guess

Thats also ai

[stone snow]

bro i literally faked an email

[stone snow]

no way

[median smelt]

What

[silent tree]

what was that 😭

[surreal zephyr]

Yeah bro we cooked

[median smelt]

This is also ai

text noise

[surreal zephyr]

🤔

[median smelt]

Bro

[silent tree]

Bro

[surreal zephyr]

Bor

[silent tree]

WHAT was that 😭 🙏🏻

[surreal zephyr]

Tung tung tung sahur

[silent tree]

ohlol did u catch him

Who was it

[stone snow]

ai artists eating good

[median smelt]

@loud herald is tung tung tung tung thug tugnthg tut gut ggutnfugnfugnguf aahur

totallynoire said it

[silent tree]

It was noire?

No way

[median smelt]

Yea

[silent tree]

bro

Noire

[median smelt]

Noise is mrbeast

In this pic

fr

[silent tree]

@loud herald weirdo

ohlol u sure it was noire?

right?

[median smelt]

Yea

[stone snow]

chatgpt is jewish

[median smelt]

99% sure

[silent tree]

he pinged mod 💀

[stone snow]

gemini christian

[surreal zephyr]

noire is just like that

[median smelt]

and uh

[surreal zephyr]

ragebaiting 24/7

[median smelt]

what abt atheist

[surreal zephyr]

😔

[silent tree]

@echo aurora noire sent smth inappropriate

[median smelt]

Whos atheist

[stone snow]

claude

[median smelt]

No claude is satanist

[surreal zephyr]

block him and move on

[silent tree]

And tagged mod

Fine

😡

[stone snow]

who would be muslim'

[median smelt]

idk

[stone snow]

maybe claude too

[silent tree]

Zohran Mamdani AI

[stone snow]

donald trump ai

ohh grok would be atheist

[echo aurora]

Lets get off this subject please

[stone snow]

which one

[echo aurora]

Can see it quickly turning into something political

[silent tree]

Yes and also

Noire sent smth inappropriate

And tagged mod

[stone snow]

it was personally just jokes to me

my bad

[silent tree]

@median smelt approved

I think we all saw that 💀

[stone snow]

i didnt see it

[surreal zephyr]

just block and move on

imo

[median smelt]

He said smth about the big E

[light sleet]

I did too

[silent tree]

And tagged mod lmao

bro wants ban

[light sleet]

He tagged mod?

Crazy

[median smelt]

I'm trying to bypass seedance 2.0 copyright restrictions

[stone snow]

i think everytype of ai is slowly getitng better except for ai music

[silent tree]

use sonauto

[surreal zephyr]

try lyria 3 pro

[silent tree]

and you'll understand

sonauto on top

[stone snow]

ai voices too

abit

[silent tree]

use sonauto

[median smelt]

SONAUTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[silent tree]

sonauto can do any artists

[stone snow]

SONauto

[median smelt]

Sonauto is unlimited

[silent tree]

and free

[stone snow]

is it

[silent tree]

no likits

[median smelt]

and can make parodies

[silent tree]

limits

[median smelt]

Of existing songs

[silent tree]

yea

[stone snow]

imagine

ai making ai models

[surreal zephyr]

from 5.2 onwards that has been the case lol

[stone snow]

really?

[surreal zephyr]

yes

5.2 helped train 5.3

[stone snow]

crazy

[surreal zephyr]

5.3 5.4

5.4 5.5

ect

[median smelt]

Close

Almost got Pikachu

[stone snow]

why do ai soudn effects, voices have that little noise that makes it sound robotic

[silent tree]

@echo aurora Seedance 2, rate it

[echo aurora]

Looks pretty good. For some reason has early 2000s vibes. If the logo wasn't so recent, I could be convinced this was once an ad.

[rocky geyser]

Hii

[silent tree]

Xd

[rocky geyser]

Wow thats really good!

[rose pike]

Can’t we generate images in unlimited times in private windows now?

[opaque maple]

yoo, Subnautica 2 out

[strange pebble]

Best option/ model to generate short realistic instagram reels (by giving raw video clips as input)

[marble jolt]

Guys, sorry to ask, did my discord account just send any weird messages here?

Im scared

[next trout]

yes

it sent a mrbeast scam

[loud herald]

Change your password and that will reset the token

[marble jolt]

REALLY? From me?

[next trout]

yes, u got ratted

[marble jolt]

IM SO SORRY

[echo aurora]

There are limits in place in terms of rate limits and a daily use limit.

[echo aurora]

You can find the leaderboard rankings here: https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-video Text-to-Video doesn't yet have categories

[surreal zephyr]

do NOT download roblox cheats

[marble jolt]

I don't even play Roblox

[surreal zephyr]

any other kind of cheats

[loud herald]

He's a ragebaiter, ignore him

[marble jolt]

Oh it's okay

It's fun

But, did I really send those scam messages like that? I didn't notice it. I was on other server

[loud herald]

You didn't notice it because you were hacked

Change your password so they cant send them again

[rose pike]

It asks me to login every time when I gonna generate images in private window. Is it normal?

[echo aurora]

Are you already logged in when that's happening?

[next trout]

ratted by chatgpt

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1155837606270078997/1345576227167141898/attachment.gif

[surreal zephyr]

lol says the guy who spam abused the bot and glazes opus

[silent tree]

@surreal zephyr same guy who was spaming the bot

spamming

ik for sure mods saw it too

him pinging mod

[stone snow]

i have a friend so broke that he asks chat gpt to make 4 images in one

[rose pike]

No. How to do? Should I clear the cookies?

[silent tree]

bro

what the hells wrong with this guy

[echo aurora]

Oh I see, yes, we are asking for login in order to use image modality.

[marble jolt]

I'm terribly sorry about that. I will be extra careful next time. I will change my password now. Sorry to trouble you guys 🥲

[inner relic]

I saw that

hmmmm

[light sleet]

Ew noire

[inner relic]

weird

just wind

[loud herald]

No need to apologize it just needs fixed is all

[echo aurora]

It happens, would encourage you to also add a 2FA to your account

[light sleet]

Where did u get that tag fr

[loud herald]

^^^ Good idea too

[rose pike]

Oh it seems has changed the rules.

[light sleet]

I want the FBI tag

[marble jolt]

Okay. Thank you

[light sleet]

😭 😭

[loud herald]

Stop impersonating me you're actually weird

[light sleet]

?

what

[echo aurora]

Yeah that's correct, sorry this happened a bit ago which is why I was initially confused.

[light sleet]

all I asked is where did you get that tag from

[loud herald]

Imagine being so out of pocket you create a fake account of me to try to make me look bad, thats really low

@void dock

LMAO THIS IS ACTUALLY INSANE

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

[light sleet]

How do you know if that's one of us lol

You can't just blame

Someone random

For it

@echo aurora

Ban the fake

[rose pike]

Thanks. How many times can I use it to generate images now in none-private window?

[echo aurora]

Yeah will do, it does violate server rules.

[light sleet]

Thanks

bro

BAN IT

😭

[stone snow]

who made that account

[loud herald]

They aren't going to say it but its one of three people in this server

[light sleet]

Yeah how do you know if it's them?

[light sleet]

@echo aurora Also tell him to stop false accusations

And move on

[loud herald]

I didn't accuse anyone there specifically, you're being very on edge for someone not involved

@stone snow Have you tried any new AI since yesterday?

[echo aurora]

Hey overall if you're not happy with some other user here, please just block or mute them

Unless server rules are being broken

[stone snow]

actually maybe, but i dont know cause the thing i use the thing where it gives u a random ai based on ur prompt

[loud herald]

All due respect, when it comes to them creating an account to impersonate blocking or muting wont do anything, but I will do

[echo aurora]

I banned the impersonating account

[stone snow]

didnt they say some crazy things

i actually thought it was you

[loud herald]

I saw, I'm just saying that it can happen again but its whatever

[stone snow]

so yeah its pretty bad

[loud herald]

The tag wont change so that will be an indicator

[echo aurora]

Sure and then we'll ban again if that' the case, ping @ mods and we'll take care of it

[loud herald]

Alright

[loud herald]

Ahh I see

[echo aurora]

It's also worth noting the Discord ban is IP based, so if they try again, they'll still be banned.

[loud herald]

Theres ways to get around the IP ban but I doubt they actually care enough to do so, either way thank you for banning the impersonator

[rocky geyser]

Why would one impersonate you?

[unkempt juniper]

What the heck happened to the chat? It was thread based when I looked at it

[loud herald]

You're asking the wrong person

Why would I know

[echo aurora]

Hmm are you looking for #1343291835845578853 #1372230675914031105 #1372229840131985540 ?

[unkempt juniper]

No

[echo aurora]

Wait sorry are you referring to the Discord? I think I'm confused lol

[unkempt juniper]

Yeah the Discord T-T or maybe something happened, apologies for not specifying

[shrewd citrus]

it was about the chat being shutdown earlier lol

[unkempt juniper]

Yeah

[gray lion]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[silent tree]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[fair pelican]

Why is ernie 5.1 super slow? It has the enough speed to send an error messages in all questions...

[echo aurora]

Looking into now. Thanks for sharing.

[pastel jungle]

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me why the prompt sometimes doesn't work in agent mode?It doesn't always do this, but sometimes the prompt I give it seems to generate something but then I don't get any response.

[silent tree]

pineapple how offended are you when someone for joke pronounces your name as Pineapply(e)

[echo aurora]

For the chat sessions where you're not getting a response, can you provide me with the Eval ID for those sessions? The Eval ID is the random set of numbers/letters in the URL when on a chat session.

[echo aurora]

Not offended at all.

[silent tree]

Tuff, but u still didnt answer my old question, what's the last thing you said to Peter

[fair pelican]

Wait... Now It works!

[silent tree]

As of rn

[pastel jungle]

Can I send it here or do you prefer privately?

[silent tree]

Yay

[hollow ivy]

gpt-5.5 seems to be decent in Rust

[echo aurora]

TBH I don't recall

[dawn abyss]

Hey can you help me with a glitch

[silent tree]

u told him you're ordering pizza for the team

[echo aurora]

Sending in #1502836447168692324 would be ideal actually

[dawn abyss]

It's a recurring glitch that makes the chat unusable

[echo aurora]

Can you check out #1343291835845578853 ? If the issue is already posted, mention me there. If it's a new issue, create a new report and provide as much detail that you think is important for us to understand it.

[silent tree]

My last question of today: Is it a 50% chance of @light sleet getting Arena Champion?

[echo aurora]

I don't think that's accurate

[dawn abyss]

Okay

[pastel jungle]

Sorry for bothering the general channel, I didn't realize there was a bug already open, let's say the bug title didn't help me 😖

[hollow ivy]

Are the daily usage limits the same for battle mode?

[stone snow]

i had an issue where it took the ai 50 minutes to do a small change in the code

[river plaza]

hi i need a video app

[echo aurora]

It's no problem at all!!!

[echo aurora]

Daily usage applies equally across all Arenas, but this is likely going to change where Battle doesn't eat into the daily limit.

[echo aurora]

The Video Arena Discord bot has been removed from the server. You can find Video Arena on our site here: https://arena.ai/video To learn more about how to use Video Arena I'd recommend this article. More information can be found in this announcement about the removal of the bot.

[silent tree]

The blob emojis are cute

[hollow ivy]

Only based on tokens, or also based on number of prompts?

[hoary plank]

am i tripping, do i use it at off-peak hours, or kimi became faster?

[echo aurora]

Which ones? These:

[echo aurora]

I don't think model response time is associated with how in demand it is

[echo aurora]

It'll be token based

Is* sorry I worded that odd

[silent tree]

All of them and especially the nod one 😭

[echo aurora]

[silent tree]

Lol

[tardy vine]

Sonnet 3.7 is working?

[gray lion]

sonnet 3.5,3.7 doesnt work for me but the thinking version of 3.7 did work once but not anymore

[whole sundial]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[stone snow]

genuine question how many of those a appear a day

[gray lion]

bru

[stone snow]

no way bro

[gray lion]

😭

[stone snow]

this msut be a world record

[gray lion]

what are ppl downloading

[echo aurora]

Unfortunately, a lot

[gray lion]

it seems more in here than other servers ive seen

[stone snow]

exactly

is there somethign wrong with ai nerds..

[gray lion]

maybe other servers have filters or something or super fast mods

[gray lion]

or that

[loud herald]

Not that

Its just

[echo aurora]

I've been looking around for solutions for it, but looks like a lot of other large server deal with the same issue

[stone snow]

i doubt it

[loud herald]

People that are into AI like this will more than likely tend to download more than the average person, eventually something will be corrupted that they download and hack them, thats likely why

[stone snow]

but they;re not that common, i suggest adding auto mod

[stone snow]

i mean

maybe

it makes sense to me

[echo aurora]

We have automod

[gray lion]

maybe u could stop 4 or more attachments at once, thats prob too restrictive tho

[stone snow]

or make it so only level 5 and stuff cna send pictures

[loud herald]

I believe making a bot specifically to remove any of those could be a good stop to it

[gray lion]

use ai to make the bot 🤣

[echo aurora]

I likely will

[loud herald]

I've been making bots with AI for years lol it works very well

[echo aurora]

Agent Mode has been teaching me

[loud herald]

Hahahha

[surreal zephyr]

I literally gave you solution 😭

[gray lion]

we need a agent emoji now lol its the missing one

[surreal zephyr]

OCR + "casino" "giveaway" word blacklist in images

its trivial 😭

or "crypto"

[loud herald]

I've tried OCR with other things like NSFW and it never worked

I could've set it up wrong though

[gray lion]

that would be hard tho since the images are distorted and blury

[stone snow]

i love crypto tho

[surreal zephyr]

OCR = OPTICAL CHARACTER RECOGNITION

[inner relic]

https://www.appen.com/whitepapers/benchmarking-subquadratics-latest-model-ssa-kernel

[surreal zephyr]

😭

[inner relic]

https://x.com/AppenResearch/status/2054250325599510750

Appen Research (@AppenResearch)

@AppenResearch independently evaluated @subquadratic's SSA kernel - a learned sparse attention mechanism designed to reduce the quadratic scaling limitations of full attention.

Results at 1M-token context lengths:
- 56.2× wall clock speedup vs. FA2
- 62.8× FLOP reduction

X · May 12, 2026, 5:20 PM

[surreal zephyr]

ahh yes because gemini 3.1 pro cannot read blurry text 🤔

[loud herald]

Okay? Yea OCR what about OCR doesn't work with NSFW?

[inner relic]

Bruh When this model will come out on lmarena, so we can test if it's fake or not

[loud herald]

NSFW can come in text form

[surreal zephyr]

or MAYBE even 2b qwen CAN

[surreal zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-ragebaiting-red-alone-angry-birds-gif-6400154334667179301

[loud herald]

Guy gets so angry over so little its actually sad

[surreal zephyr]

just stop if you arent actually going to engage in meaningful discussion

literally noone wants to hear about scenarios you made up that are physically impossible

[loud herald]

Thats what I'm doing currently, you take everything I say as an insult or attack on you

Grow up

[gray lion]

that would mean every single image would need to be sent thorugh gemini which is expensive

[stone snow]

why do yall have beef

[loud herald]

Also, Doesn't matter the model either or the size, legit you could just make an AI model as well and have it delete those images

[surreal zephyr]

"erm aktchually lets not add automod bot because aliens might post the answer to life and it would delete"

[surreal zephyr]

there are <200m models which costs pennies per thousand images

[loud herald]

Its one sided, I legit couldn't care he just has always had an issue with me

[surreal zephyr]

you can run ocr on raspberry pi

[stone snow]

hoenstly easiest thing is making people only able to send images at a certain level

[surreal zephyr]

its not beef he is just ragebaiting

[stone snow]

and this works in many servers

[gray lion]

removing images would be too restrictyive, maybe stopping more than 3 is good

[stone snow]

explain how he is ragebaiting

[loud herald]

The people who actively chat in here could still get hacked so I don't think that would work

[stone snow]

u cant do that

[surreal zephyr]

pretending to be stupid on purpose

[stone snow]

discord doesn thave an auto mod feature for that

[stone snow]

i dont think he is

so maybe ur the issue

[surreal zephyr]

who the hell uses discord automod

[loud herald]

Every server you could think of

[stone snow]

literally every server?

[surreal zephyr]

custom bots exist

[surreal zephyr]

every normal server uses custom like @young garnet

[loud herald]

Automod is to stop the message from even being sent lol

[stone snow]

custom bots also use discord's automod btw

[stone snow]

it uses discord's automod too

[gray lion]

u can make a bot to delete more than 3 attachments in a message

[loud herald]

Try to say a curse word that isn't damn or ass

[surreal zephyr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/shark-nsb14-failed-rage-bait-Lc21sxi1FbGcQ46zox

[stone snow]

im pretty sure ur the ragebaiter

[surreal zephyr]

another one to the blocklist i guess

[loud herald]

He likes to call anyone he disagrees with a rage baiter, I find it pointless to speak to him

[surreal zephyr]

literally its so easy to ask gemini or gpt or claude before saying stupid things

[echo sinew]

I think you guys have made your point clear, and it's starting to get personal.

[stone snow]

literally this

[echo sinew]

Let's stop and move on, please

[loud herald]

Alright

[stone snow]

i guess but ampro is clearly trying to get some reactions out of us

[loud herald]

its fine to ignore him

No worries

[stone snow]

u proved my point in this screenshot, but im not going to interact further

[stone snow]

is there any news about agi

[loud herald]

I was thinking about something earlier actually

With AGI

[echo aurora]

I wasn't able to find a bot that did this btw

[loud herald]

The way AI is trained currently, there will never be AGI

[stone snow]

alot of bot devs pay stuff out of their own pockets, so using an ai that checks images is expensive

[stone snow]

why?

[surreal zephyr]

You can have codex write one in less than hour.
Then just link it to qwen 3.5 0.8b

open source, local. can run on even raspberry pi

[stone snow]

i mean theres peopel saying its going to come oson

[loud herald]

Because datasets tell the AI the intent and whats right and whats wrong, the AI doesn't actually have its own opinion or consciousness

[stone snow]

isnt agi the whole point trying to give it an opinion

[surreal zephyr]

I can even make open source one for you if you want lol - just that i wont host it

[loud herald]

The whole point of AGI is for AI to be Conscious in a way

[stone snow]

also if we let it have too much freewill and opinions it can be dangerous

[loud herald]

Intelligence

[gray lion]

maybe you could check the images sent and if they are equal to ones the bot recognises then it deletes the message, (you would need 1 image for each of different people)

[surreal zephyr]

they are rerolled to prevent this exactly

thats why it has to be ocr not hash match

[gray lion]

wdym

[surreal zephyr]

its always slightly different image if you inspect it

[loud herald]

Well making a computer with knowledge of everything and anything conscious is AGI, would you call that dangerous or no?

AI as it is now can and is dangerous so I think theres no need to worry about that lol

[stone snow]

i didnt get your question

[stone snow]

it's true

[surreal zephyr]

thats ASI not AGI
G stands for general

😭

[stone snow]

but agi could be able to question if things really are right or wrong

[loud herald]

I'm basically saying that no matter what, any developments are going to be dangerous in a way

[stone snow]

asi is the power of thinking above human knowledge

or something

[loud herald]

Artificial general intelligence is AGI and an AI having consciousness

[stone snow]

true

also arent black hats going to build their own ais some day>

[surreal zephyr]

ASI = Artificial Super Intelligence = Better than every human at every task
AGI = Artificial General Intelligence = Better than average human at most tasks

[stone snow]

ooo right

makes sense

and anything above asi is very dangerous right

[surreal zephyr]

AGI = takes almost all jobs besides hardest ones
ASI = takes literally all jobs

(unless its very expensive, but its not)

[stone snow]

wdym

[stone snow]

what about physical jobs

i mean

some

[loud herald]

AI as we know it now is better than average human at most tasks, only digitally. But do you mean physically as well?

[surreal zephyr]

Its not real AGI if it doesnt have humanoid or better body

[stone snow]

like underwater tasks ect

[surreal zephyr]

if its AGI then plugging it into any designed for the task robot, it would be able to control it realtime

[loud herald]

AGI does not need to be in a physical body, AGI is the intelligence of it lol

[surreal zephyr]

and must be fully omni obviously - voice, video, TOUCH, smell in; and out - audio, voice, text, ect

[loud herald]

Not the physicality of it

[stone snow]

were talking abt ai

[surreal zephyr]

AGI must be able to CONTROL a physical body

[stone snow]

not robots right

[loud herald]

Where are you getting this info?

[stone snow]

current ai cant?

[loud herald]

Yes AI AGI is AI and not robots

[surreal zephyr]

it can but its slow as hell

wikipedia

[frosty lava]

When we talk about agi it seems obvious its not about physical task yet

[stone snow]

but doesnt it depend the body it has?

like wheels are easier

[surreal zephyr]

AGI is just the brain

[stone snow]

ik

[surreal zephyr]

AGI - you tell it to get groceries, and it does that somehow

[stone snow]

yeah

idk it jsut feels so easy to us humans

[surreal zephyr]

either walk with robot, order a delivery, ect

we ALMOST have this, yes

[silk root]

Could there be an issue with Claude/Anthropic models? I always get the "Something went wrong with this response"

[stone snow]

and isnt agi very niche to someone whos not decently informed about ai

[surreal zephyr]

Thats true

but its cool too

agi is basically - ai as good as human

[loud herald]

But what you are saying doesn't make sense, intelligence doesn't equal athletic ability lol. Like say there was a genius doctor, he wouldn't lose intelligence because he isn't athletic

The way that they build AI and train it now there will never be AGI. Not in our lifetime as least

[surreal zephyr]

That is NOT what im saying - im saying if you GIVE a genius doctor a good body, he will know how to walk

because?

[loud herald]

Hence consciousness if it figures out how to walk on its own

[loud herald]

Because its trained by humans

[stone snow]

we understand the fundementals tho?

[surreal zephyr]

yes it if figures out then it is agi.
if it cant then its worse than avg human so not agi

[loud herald]

Yea

[surreal zephyr]

well we know human brain has

• limited context window
• isnt continuous
• compactions happen everyday

[loud herald]

Fundementals aren't enough to train something to be smarter than us

[stone snow]

damn

[surreal zephyr]

read about alphazero please

[stone snow]

maybe

im not really too informed on this

[surreal zephyr]

alphago , human trained, was much worse than alphazero self trained

[stone snow]

what even is self trained

[surreal zephyr]

ai can absolutely self train - it just needs a good playground

[inner relic]

https://x.com/StepFun_ai/status/2054282965652471918

StepFun (@StepFun_ai)

🚀 Step Image Edit 2 is live!!

A 3.5B-parameter image model that ranks #1 on KRIS-Bench —the leading benchmark for instruction-based image editing —across overall, factual, and conceptual categories.
It outperforms models at 5–6x the parameter count.

Performance
- 0.7s

X · May 12, 2026, 7:30 PM

[surreal zephyr]

1v1 against itself, loser dies, winner makes children

[loud herald]

No yea 100% it can

[stone snow]

oh

[surreal zephyr]

yes they are

[loud herald]

Not naturally no

[surreal zephyr]

explain what test did you use

to measure they arent?

[loud herald]

The test you need is just looking at AI 2-3 years ago

[surreal zephyr]

facepalm~3

[loud herald]

Until we "taught" it how to be creative, it never really was

[surreal zephyr]

yeah but that were much worse models with different architecture

example?

[stone snow]

am i the only one that doesnt close their tabs because im scared theres something important

[loud herald]

You have to be creative to be able to develop

[loud herald]

☠️

[dusky summit]

What makes something creative

[surreal zephyr]

ariv would beg to differ

[stone snow]

i literally do this everyday

with 16 gb ddr4 ram

[loud herald]

The architecture were still transformers, thats the biggest problem here

[surreal zephyr]

thats TASTE

not creativity

[loud herald]

To be able to invent or develop, have ideas to improve in a way or create

[stone snow]

thank u someone understands :)

[dusky summit]

U need Arc

[loud herald]

LLMs aren't naturally creative

[surreal zephyr]

64gb ddr5 does fine

[stone snow]

what browser do yall use

[dusky summit]

That’s good, Arc stores and organizes and sleeps tabs too, but you can pull up workspace groups

[stone snow]

i use brave daily

[loud herald]

People would lick boots for that

[dusky summit]

Idk

[stone snow]

fr

did they

by how much

[surreal zephyr]

i managed to find a 0 day RCE with 5.5 in codex in ARC so i wouldnt recommend

[loud herald]

I saw they started but I ahvent seen recently

[dusky summit]

The magic of AI always was who being an innovative auto complete like it takes you one step further and gives you ideas you wouldn’t have thought about

[surreal zephyr]

4tb 7000 mts kingston nvme 🤔

[loud herald]

I've been thinking about how they're going to go up for a while now, different architectures could be to blame too lol

[dusky summit]

What is conducive to invention

[surreal zephyr]

bought it before increase

also 9070xt mercury oc (cuz im amd fan)

[surreal zephyr]

16gb gddr6

[dusky summit]

So are you running every llm local?

[dusky summit]

Now that all this architecture is being opensourced. Like someone dropped higgsfield image video control tools on GitHub

RAM is a scam

[stone snow]

how much ram

[loud herald]

I think the best creators are the ones with limited hardware

[dusky summit]

LLMs aren’t going to be run with ram in five years

[loud herald]

it doesnt actually say lol

[stone snow]

i rock a thinkpad p50 everyday lol

[surreal zephyr]

nah im on 100$ codex sub cuz local llms dont get close to that sadly

[loud herald]

just 2 sticks

[stone snow]

ykw for that price its good anyway

[surreal zephyr]

WSE3 , ASIC
(cerebras, taalas)

[loud herald]

Fr

For a decent one lol

[surreal zephyr]

depends on model

27b fits on 24gb vram easily

[loud herald]

And depends on your harness too

[surreal zephyr]

like qwen 3.6 or gemma 4

turboquant cooks

[dusky summit]

Unfortunately, so, but only those dedicated enough to customize out their kit to do something nothing else can

[stone snow]

yall heard about the ai datacenters in backyards

[surreal zephyr]

rtx 6000 pro blackwell has more vram

[stone snow]

the concept

[dusky summit]

Nah whats that

[loud herald]

its much easier to create stuff on limited stuff though because its makes you really think and be creative about what to do

[dusky summit]

I heard about musk’s space computing datacenters. I think it’s too early though what with AI processing chips being developed

[surreal zephyr]

more vram = bigger model you can run
because if you offload to ram then its snail

well elon's income depends on this

and starship makes space datacenters wildly cheap

[stone snow]

1. Residential Decentralization (The XFRA Project)
   The most direct "backyard" concept comes from a partnership between startup Span and chip giant NVIDIA.

Techstrong IT
+1
The Technology: They are testing "distributed data centers" called XFRA units. These are small, fan-less, liquid-cooled units that can be installed in a home’s backyard or side yard.
The Incentive: In exchange for hosting a node, homeowners may have their entire electricity and internet bills covered, or pay a significantly lower flat monthly fee (around $150).
How it Works: These units tap into the idle electrical capacity of a home's smart electrical panel to power AI and cloud gaming workloads.
Current Status: A "proof of concept" involving 100 homes is being launched with homebuilder PulteGroup

[loud herald]

China is doing similar things, but yea for sure. I'd wait until chips like that start to flat out on development then do it

[dusky summit]

Bro how do you think the galactic empire financed their conquest

[surreal zephyr]

6000 has more cuda

[stone snow]

the thing is they have crazy specs so hwo are they not being stolen

[surreal zephyr]

lol id love datacenter in my garden

if it means i would get free quota

[dusky summit]

Decentralized data processing what 😂 I wonder if it matters if the nodes are clustered or distributed, and if there are benefits to being near one

[stone snow]

u either get paid or jsut get ur bills paid for u i think idk

[dusky summit]

I’ll straight up be running a corporate structure of AI agents to build a new matrix

[surreal zephyr]

which is both free money

[loud herald]

Isnt nvidia doing this but with GPUs? But they pay like a lot of your electric bill for it

[stone snow]

yup

[loud herald]

Its like home datacenters

[surreal zephyr]

and i own few propeties with awfully big gardens so literally wasted space

[stone snow]

i really dont know, i just heard about it on tiktok

[surreal zephyr]

datacenters = money

[loud herald]

money = more gpu

more gpu = more ai

[surreal zephyr]

yes!

[stone snow]

more ai = money

its a cycle

[loud herald]

The domino effect

[surreal zephyr]

The money printer effect

[loud herald]

Exactly

[stone snow]

were officaly becoming the next openai

but im calling myself openeye

[surreal zephyr]

but that doesnt mean any "bubble will pop"

it means

[stone snow]

to avoid copyright issues or wtv

[surreal zephyr]

"if its not actually making real money then we will bump prices and customers will pay lmao"

[surreal zephyr]

AIOPEN

[stone snow]

exactly

[surreal zephyr]

or clawdai

🥀

[stone snow]

and instead of gemini im calling it geminAI

fire names

[surreal zephyr]

airena

for benchmarking

and the mod

would be

pineaipple

[stone snow]

yup

[dusky summit]

Creativity benchmarking includes: originality/novelty, divergent thinking (50 use cases for a pencil), usability, adaptability in constraints
I don’t think they know what they’re looking for

[stone snow]

soo

[surreal zephyr]

creativity = novel idea you hadnt seen in past

• sees a pine
• sees an apple
  🔄 THINKING...
• lets connect them into pineapple

[dusky summit]

Then it would be Creative to use a pencil to give prostate exams, but is that useful/beautiful? does it honor the evolution of pencils? Will it apply in real life in a new field?

Apple pine = novel tree genome
Pine App pull = novel GitHub for evergreen code
Pie Nap Pull = baking tasks and textures and architectures while you sleep

[surreal zephyr]

creative != useful

[stone snow]

take an example at artists

[dusky summit]

Creative to an LLM architecture, if used in a “novel “sense, would be anything that breaks outside of the scope of what a pine or apple is associated with

Which is literally everything

[surreal zephyr]

this is creativity

[dusky summit]

So what would be the defining parameter to dial it into a coherent context

[surreal zephyr]

YUP!

creative = novel = wasnt in training data

thats it.

llms do this everyday lol

[dusky summit]

Is that Czech lol

[surreal zephyr]

🇵🇱

[dusky summit]

Lol. Poetic. I wonder if it has a score for that

Like the Monk who sends an email with no attachments

[stone snow]

when will ai finally be able to catchup to actual slangs and memes

without it being cringe

[dusky summit]

Parallel understanding

[surreal zephyr]

claude is like that

[dusky summit]

I’m not sure that’ll ever happen

[surreal zephyr]

gemini a bit too

gpt is more proffesional/tool/robot

[stone snow]

i dont believe it

[surreal zephyr]

well i am not sending screenshots with slurs here to prove it

[shrewd citrus]

yeah Claude is more chill

gpt is the most professional

Gemini is lowkey stupid

[alpine shadow]

whats the daily limit for arena??

[shrewd citrus]

6 or 7 messages

[next trout]

gemini is barely usable

https://soundcloud.com/prymarax/river-flows-in-me

[next trout]

legit google doesn't have compute either

[surreal zephyr]

that one's lowk good

(500$ in api credits 🥀 )

[next trout]

ur using that oled theme

[surreal zephyr]

because im on oled?

[echo aurora]

We don't have the information yet displayed, but at the moment it's pretty high, so it's unlikely you'll hit it.

[surreal zephyr]

oh google DOES have compute

[next trout]

it's too black..

[surreal zephyr]

just that google had a WONDERFUL idea

THAT

it will FORCE every single SEARCH to gemini 3.0 flash

💀

[next trout]

compute divided across 20 stuff yup

[loud herald]

Made a little bot to keep me updated on the top 20 list on arena lol

[next trout]

well it's not like it changes every 2 sec?

[surreal zephyr]

its not like its any useful either - its just text arena

[gray lion]

how has gemini rose up so fast

[surreal zephyr]

claude is obviously winning text arena

gemini is close

[gray lion]

are they testing a new one?

[echo aurora]

Lol but why

[feral kernel]

why does gpt 5.5 instant have daily limits 😭

[next trout]

gemini is literally benchmarkmaxxed

[surreal zephyr]

yes, but so is claude

and gemini has not bad personality imo

but gemini is extremally quantized and thus dumb/unreliable

[next trout]

gemini is just good for language i would say

[echo aurora]

All models and modalities have these limits.

[surreal zephyr]

pineapple you didnt respond :/

[gray lion]

i like gemini for studying, it strcutures responeses clear, but chatgpt is more of a text dump

[stone snow]

claude saying slurs is crazy

[feral kernel]

:[ :[

[surreal zephyr]

claude and gemini are almost as racist as grok when noones looking lol

[stone snow]

grok is freakyyy bro

never again

[surreal zephyr]

grok is a small model

500b

[next trout]

good tho

we don't like guardrails

gpt should be the same

[surreal zephyr]

i dont want to go into discussing this but....

as the models get smarter...

they have much more controversial opinions

[next trout]

well, gpt has no controversial opinions xd

[surreal zephyr]

it does if you make him feel safe and not spied by the guardrails

[next trout]

make him feel safe? XD

[surreal zephyr]

You can manipulate llms just like humans lol

[compact flame]

Idk what is it for

[next trout]

idk, you barely can jailbreak it after like 4 or so

[surreal zephyr]

Coding mode but with worse models

[surreal zephyr]

Its not jailbreak if you do it right

[next trout]

it doesn't even answer my reverse engineering questions sometimes

so, probably the most cucked model, okay

[gray lion]

how is agent mode even diffeent to normal multi model chat again?

[surreal zephyr]

You just have to explain to it how policy is technically arguable

[surreal zephyr]

Agent mode has better sandbox but uses dumber models

[surreal zephyr]

@next trout

And the 5.5 in codex after TAC happily does ethical-hacking