general

[south charm]

...

[next trout]

what triple dots

perioddd

[light sleet]

...

[next trout]

...,.,.,..,

we just speak in morse code now

[light sleet]

my emirate 😍

[south charm]

Golden smell here :)))

[light sleet]

yeahhhh

[hidden dock]

Hey, i'm new here

[south charm]

Earth arena come here bois

[south charm]

Hi newbie, nice to meet you

[light sleet]

That looks so cool

[south charm]

what if we have this UI when April 22

[echo aurora]

Lol the flags

[echo aurora]

Welcome welcome

[south charm]

ai bru

[echo aurora]

Closeish?

[hidden dock]

@south charm thanks for the having me here

[south charm]

which?

I used gpt image 2

[south charm]

you're welcome

[echo aurora]

Actually nvm, I was being generous

[south charm]

Jk: what if pineapple tell the team to make this UI on new year or earth day

[light sleet]

Yeah

[south charm]

that would be fire

[light sleet]

Fr

[echo aurora]

I don't think they'd listen

[light sleet]

BANANA MENTIONED 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[sleek urchin]

✅ Avoid political and religious content. As a space that’s inclusive to many different worldviews we ask to avoid topics related to politics and religion in order to maintain an inclusive space. It is okay to have discussion related to new policy or laws as long as it’s related to AI.

[light sleet]

What?

[sleek urchin]

#rules

[silent tree]

umm

all he said was

[next trout]

don't say the i word

[south charm]

ok

[silent tree]

he has a friend from 🇮🇱

😭

[sleek urchin]

#rules

[next trout]

u just said it

[sleek urchin]

Off topic

[silent tree]

oh

my bad

[sleek urchin]

Pineapple is typin

ur cooked

[next trout]

XD

[silent tree]

Im not

lol

hes gonna remind

me

not punish

[echo aurora]

Yeah just pointing out is off topic

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/count-down-count-seconds-final-gif-4539223992379245560

[south charm]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-gif-25901726

[echo aurora]

And can see how it'd quickly turn into an even more off-topic topic, so wanted to stop it asap

[next trout]

@sleek urchin ur being a mod pet ok

[silent tree]

yes

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/eee-gif-22946311

[south charm]

wth dym?

[next trout]

https://tenor.com/view/tuna-cat-what-da-tuna-cat-what-the-tuna-im-tuna-gif-12137031577657074960

[sleek urchin]

lemme find my sticker

https://tenor.com/dzHcDu6y56C.gif

[stone snow]

how dangerous do yall think is ai?

[next trout]

https://tenor.com/view/slungus-explosion-item-asylum-ia-gif-3032276563247572248

[sleek urchin]

5/10

[next trout]

me when when the when if when wha you me

[echo aurora]

Stealing this

[surreal zephyr]

Im always watching

[south charm]

who the hell is bro

[silent tree]

mentioned

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-this-gif-4011795153273257473

[ocean venture]

i have dm's you with ModMail, maybe you can help something of it

[surreal zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1336786686990094427/1420077801721041069/caption.gif

[surreal zephyr]

Who r u

[echo aurora]

I responded ~ a min ago, did you get a DM back?

[surreal zephyr]

💀

[next trout]

https://tenor.com/view/blow-dandelion-funny-tiktok-twin-gif-15210823194168172336

[south charm]

wait wait wait stop stop, why the the AI channel become to a sticker war

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/mango-tuff-67-meme-67-sigma-gif-4067328913820884950

[next trout]

wai wai wai wai

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/aero-gif-18775136

[silent tree]

Wait! Wait! Wait!

[next trout]

wut du helll

[surreal zephyr]

The what

[next trout]

dandelion

[south charm]

stop stop why the the AI channel become to a sticker war

[sleek urchin]

dandelion?

[silent tree]

Stop! Stop! Stop!

[next trout]

lion

[sleek urchin]

Nvm off topic

[next trout]

quickly talk about ai before pineapple comes

[sleek urchin]

Golden dandelion which is a Golden dandelion

[sleek urchin]

Do yall think ai is better than programmers?

[next trout]

better than most!

[south charm]

most are using AI

[next trout]

tru

[sleek urchin]

Can anyone help me with open-web-ui?

[silent tree]

Open-Web-Ui-Web-Ui-Open-Ui-Web

[echo aurora]

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/grrr-rawr-gif-16528624687434969085

[south charm]

hi newbie

[south charm]

help what

[sleek urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/sxkllt-gif-11304965482361944491

[wild isle]

Opencode releases a update every hour, every time I open the app, it notifies that

[sleek urchin]

SearXNG web-search setup

1. When I try to use it, it just says "No sorces found"

[south charm]

I just ignore it

[stone snow]

game = cool
popularity = alot pls

done, i made the best game in the world

[wild isle]

Recently it loses connections very often

[stone snow]

thats how easy it is to code

[sleek urchin]

GTV 6 development progress:

[south charm]

Enable JSON Format
Configure "Trust Proxy Environment"
Check Engine Configuration

[stone snow]

im making an ai version of the game if i see 1 bug

[wild isle]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1314954790752751656.png?size=160&name=noticed

[sleek urchin]

1. Enabled
2. (Configuring rn)
3. Checked

[south charm]

so what happened next

I need to goto sleep new cause it 0:00 AM in my country see you in 12:30 PM bc I need to work

[sleek urchin]

Same error

Pineappleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee help please

[south charm]

What provider did you use

[sleek urchin]

SearXNG

[south charm]

AI provider

[sleek urchin]

Nvidia

[south charm]

nvidia is kinda sick rn bc openclaw

[sleek urchin]

I mean its alr if you use hugging face models

[sleek urchin]

And nvidia nano is so good

[south charm]

I use nvidia too but I choose fast model

[sleek urchin]

Same :>

[south charm]

Fix: In your SearXNG settings.yml file, ensure the formats section includes json.Rate Limiting: Disable search rate limiting by setting limiting: false in the same settings.yml file.

Proxy and Network Issues
Fix: Go to Admin Panel > Settings > Web Search and enable "Trust Proxy Environment" if you are behind a proxy.Docker Network: Ensure your Open WebUI and search engine containers are on the same Docker network so they can communicate.

Check: Navigate to Admin Panel > Settings > Web Search and verify that your Search Engine and Query URL are correctly populated and saved. Sometimes, simply hitting "Save" again can re-initialize a stuck configuration.

I need to go now gb, good luck

[south charm]

.

[solemn osprey]

Do credits count into Battle Mode with two unknown models?

[surreal zephyr]

I just saw some guy

• make video about ai being bad at making cs2 cheats

• used composer 2 LOW and gpt 5.4 LOW

• the cheat actually worked

🤡 🤡

[loud herald]

What IDE is this?

[surreal zephyr]

Like wtf people have 0 idea how to use ai and say its bad

[loud herald]

The fact it still worked shows you everything

[stone snow]

fr

"but ai wastes water and kills polar bears :(("

[solemn osprey]

depends on what the cheat is

[loud herald]

As if the polar bears aren't already being starved to death

[stone snow]

it's been an issue for a while and people now are blaming EVERYTHING on ai

[loud herald]

Well yea, thats how society works now, they find one thing they don't like then cancel out the good in it and do nothing but hate on it or blame everything on it

[stone snow]

ai has some downsides but it can be good for society

[loud herald]

AI has more good than bad to it

People just do that for everything

[stone snow]

exactly

[loud herald]

They try to make the bads in it a much bigger deal then it is

[stone snow]

but

i do get

the generative ai part

it can be quite bad

[loud herald]

me too, generative AI is not okay

It also uses more compute

[stone snow]

i think it is but only t osome point

idk how to explain it

[loud herald]

I'd like to see it assist Anime creation lol, faster releases

[stone snow]

yeah but

i would prefer if they traced ver ai

over

[loud herald]

Obviously I dont want it taking over the industry for art or anything but more so assist it

[slender ledge]

ADD an subscription like with opus models

[loud herald]

Thats fair too

[slender ledge]

And stuff

[stone snow]

but idk

[slender ledge]

30€ lifetime

Idk

[loud herald]

Their entire brand is about being free they aren't going to do that

[stone snow]

it's just leaves a bitter taste

even if its good

[slender ledge]

With limits dumbass

[loud herald]

Honestly, not so much with me but it varies per person ofc

[stone snow]

someone got mad

[loud herald]

Did I hurt your feelings somehow?

[stone snow]

also 30 euro lifetime is going t omake htme bankrupt

to make them*

[echo aurora]

Lets not talk with other members like that

[stone snow]

ai is good until you realise how easy it can be to jailbreak them

[loud herald]

Their brand is being free, so why would they make anything subscription based? $30 is also just more expensive than actually buying claude models

Overall if they added subscription they'd likely lose more money from people leaving

[slender ledge]

Ok sorry

[slender ledge]

Mb

[stone snow]

i think

[loud herald]

You're good no worries

[stone snow]

i'll be happy when all ais become kinda like claude

[loud herald]

I don't think AI should have restrictions other than illegal things like making a pipe bomb or something lol. Because with that comes hallucinations when it has guardrails

[stone snow]

like isnt the main thing about claude is that it rereads the whole chat?

[loud herald]

The talkative side at the very least

[stone snow]

if this becomes the standard for newer upcoming ais somehow

[loud herald]

The context window, its 1M tokens which many other AIs have so that part isn't very special

[stone snow]

my life is complete

[loud herald]

Claudes special in how it speaks

[stone snow]

im not really educated abt that so

[stone snow]

how?>

[loud herald]

You're good

[loud herald]

I'd say out of every AI we have right now claude speaks the most like a human

[stone snow]

also i dont understand how people cna tell which ai models they're talking to by the way it speaks

[loud herald]

People like to say its AGI lmaooo but I don't think so

[stone snow]

i barely talk to claude

so idk

i should test it out again sometimes

[loud herald]

For sure

[stone snow]

main reason i dont talk to it alot is that it's way too expensive

[loud herald]

True that, insane on the pricing and usage limits

[stone snow]

like i only get a few messages per day

[stone snow]

for free

atleast

[loud herald]

Even with paid its not much better than free

[stone snow]

yeah but atleast you can talk to it more

how close do you think we are from agi?

i mean recent progress has been kinda crazy to say the least

[loud herald]

1 year or less in my opinion

[stone snow]

i heard after agi

itll take 1-2 years for asi

[loud herald]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was even closer, because AGI is intelligence

[stone snow]

isnt it going to code itself

[loud herald]

Its possible

[stone snow]

whats the difference with agi

i mean

could it think like a human

sigh'

[minor bloom]

Will never arrive

[stone snow]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[loud herald]

AGI is Artificial general intelligence and is basically like you could think of it as a race in a way, its actual intelligence and I believe is smarter than humans when it actually becomes a thing

[errant sand]

@echo aurora

[stone snow]

i was thinking like human = agi
asi = better human

[errant sand]

What's asi?

[stone snow]

forgot what it stands for

but think superhuman intelligence

[loud herald]

Artificial super intelligence

[stone snow]

yeah

[errant sand]

What does that even mean lol

[stone snow]

it understands things we cant

[loud herald]

Well the reason I think its smarter than humans is because like, even now without an AI having a concious it still would be technically smarter than the average human

[errant sand]

Oh

[loud herald]

Because of it knowing everything it was trained on

[errant sand]

Is it like things we haven't discovered yet or ?

[loud herald]

And even agentic workflows too

[loud herald]

yes

[stone snow]

it depends what you mean by smarter

but yeah i agree

[errant sand]

OK makes sense

[loud herald]

ASI and AGI has not been discovered yet

[stone snow]

i dont even think agi will be fully released to the public

maybe 10% of it

idk

[loud herald]

It does for sure but its most popular things I'd say

If you tried to ask it about some fandom no one has ever heard of, it wont know either without an internet search haha

[stone snow]

something like that

[loud herald]

It depends on which company comes across it

[stone snow]

think there could be som elgal issues

legal*

it's like finding the cure for cnacer

cancer

lol

[loud herald]

Hmmm possibly, but that also will come down to which company again lol

If Anthropic finds it then its an issue with legality

[stone snow]

yea

[loud herald]

If OpenAI finds it then it will likely be released and no problems with the government

[sleek urchin]

How did it know.?

[stone snow]

why tho?

[loud herald]

Because they give government full access to their models uncensored

[slender ledge]

Holy how

[loud herald]

They have a contract with the US government

[stone snow]

ah hell nah

idk why

but it seems like a bad idea

no

[loud herald]

how old is GPT oss 120b

[stone snow]

matter fact i know why

they're going to abuse it out so much

[loud herald]

Nah, its just used for missions and stuff. AI Has been used for missions plenty of times, they used Anthropics claude to capture meduro lol, thats why the whole spew went on with anthropic

[sleek urchin]

GPT OSS 120B was released by OpenAI on August 5, 2025.

[stone snow]

damn

[surreal zephyr]

He is ragebating, ignore

[slender ledge]

Lol

Yea I ragebait fast

Idk why

[surreal zephyr]

Meanwhile ai uses closed water systems 😭😭
Military and food is what wastes water

[loud herald]

I see, maybe it has an internal clock in it somehow or it searched the web

[sleek urchin]

Thats impossible

[loud herald]

No its not

[sleek urchin]

Its on nvidia

[loud herald]

Searching the web is in models everywhere and an internal clock could very well be possible

[sleek urchin]

And open-source

[loud herald]

That doesnt mean it cant search the web lol

[sleek urchin]

It cant, read the hugging face

[loud herald]

Not to mention the same app people complain about it on can use up to 15K gallons a minute on their datacenter

Tiktok

[main nexus]

Finally

What r the limits?

[wispy roost]

yeah what are the daily limits

[stone snow]

idk

why'd they add that

[inner gate]

I think so u can use any model a certain amount of times instead of using some unlimited and others only 5

Nor fully sure

[loud herald]

For reference:

[loud herald]

Its to stop abuse of models and cause arena to lose too much money too quickly

[inner gate]

By abuse they mean using it forever?

Or literally abuse

[undone geyser]

lemme get this str8, i will use arena for lets say 10 times and then after 24 hours?

used to be 45 minutes

i will have to wait for a day to use arena.ai?

[loud herald]

Yea just using it so much that arena loses money

[inner gate]

I think it should be okay if they maybe vary the limits considering the amount of people using it

[thorn coral]

😔

[pale blaze]

So you're saying you just added a new limitation. And then you say, "Well, maybe someday we'll remove the context limit." That's great.

[wispy roost]

as long as the limit is not like super super low it will be fine lmao like 50 searches a day or something wack like that

[thorn coral]

In any case, they need to set a ‘reasonable’ limit, otherwise they risk losing their users

[abstract tundra]

Rip arena. They went broke.

[stone snow]

someone pls sponsore this small company called arena

🥺🥺

[thorn coral]

I'm not again a donation if everyone doing it for removing the daily limits

But they said no 🙁

[stone snow]

arena ai

[abstract tundra]

Yeah

That was the whole magic of Arena

[stone snow]

ill let you sell my passwords to china :)

[abstract tundra]

Unlike that stupid yupp ai

[stone snow]

whatrs yupp ai

[abstract tundra]

Another arena type site with way more models but with credits

You gain credits by voting

But you lose more than gain

So at some point you're reduced to either switching accs or using tiny models until you saved up enough

Basically no creative freedom unlike arena

Until now I guess..

[wispy roost]

they added a limit man its not like they made it so you can only use the website 6 times then you gotta wait a day lmao its not that bad

[abstract tundra]

Credits were mentioned

[stone snow]

i guess we'll have to see

[stone snow]

say wallahi

[echo aurora]

yeah what are the daily limits
This limit isn't yet shown. We're still building out the UI changes to support this, but we're also refining the total limit as this may shift over time. In the meantime, with Agent Mode rolling out to more people, we needed this daily limit added now in order to support that, despite the full feature set of the new usage system not yet ready.

[abstract tundra]

What models does Agent mode use?

[echo aurora]

This could create a lot of inauthentic use of Battle mode, which we absolutely want to avoid.

[abstract tundra]

Good

[echo aurora]

That information isn't yet shared. We are building leaderboards behind the scenes though. Very excited to share with you all when we're ready!

[echo aurora]

Na, we're just being thoughtful of spend, we plan to be here for a very long time!

[slender ledge]

Pineapple because the limit wil u be able to add bigger models

[abstract tundra]

i am very much hoping it incorporates my idea that i posted in the feedback forum about using all available models together

[surreal zephyr]

so theres hourly + daily limit now?

[echo aurora]

They work independently of each other. The "hourly" is a rate limit.

[surreal zephyr]

honestly one weekly or monthly wouldve been better - a lot of people use arena in short bursts not everyday 😔

[abstract tundra]

I know, but part of Arena's magic (actually major one) was the complete creative freedom of not having to worry about rate limits unlike the official platforms of each model

This is why you guys need sponsors

[echo aurora]

Exactly. The new usage system is intending to lower/remove these limits. Same with context limits.

[uneven cypress]

Does anyone have any idea how to use Claude opus 4.7 for free without credit card?

[abstract tundra]

And external funding instead of sale.

[slender ledge]

Please answer this

[echo aurora]

Right now, it's in an odd state of having two usage systems at the same time. But the intent is this new daily limit will be the main system controlling these limits.

[echo aurora]

That's the intent

[uneven cypress]

Wait so all the models will be in direct mode but with limits?

[slender ledge]

No

[thorn coral]

I don't understand why companies don't sponsors Arena because thanks to the team they can see the leaderboard of their own models

[abstract tundra]

Very hopeful of this

[stone snow]

i mean dont companies run their own tests?

idk

[abstract tundra]

And they use it to compete and boast about it

[thorn coral]

They don't have a leaderboard with all models like Arena does

[stone snow]

mm

[unreal dagger]

ayo

[abstract tundra]

In fact they should pay Arena to host the models

[thorn coral]

Yes

[unreal dagger]

who has made a dope webstie from the coding

[abstract tundra]

Basically negative price (paying them per api usage)

[thorn coral]

I mean, thanks to Arena, I know what model is better

SO

Maybe I can pay for that model on the official website

[unreal dagger]

facts

[thorn coral]

It's like a free ads you know ?

So... Gemini !!! Sponsor Arena please !!!

🤣

[stone snow]

should arena ai add banner ads

yk i wouldnt really mind if it's not pop uos

ups

[light sleet]

yes

[thorn coral]

maybe

[slender ledge]

Omg fr?

[obsidian cargo]

question: what incentive will users have to use battle mode over direct mode?

[light sleet]

bro the point of the new usage limit is to bring back models in direct

😭

[west lodge]

wait rly

ok this might be a good then

[echo aurora]

There are a bunch:

1. Contributing to AI growth in the overall ecosystem -> using Battle Mode builds the leaderboards and helps model labs understand better how their models are preforming.
2. They can get access to codenamed models, which are new unreleased models. Some users really value having early access to these.
3. Blind comparison to models. A good method for trying out alternatives and finding something better for your use case.

[surreal zephyr]

gemini omni is wild

https://gemini.google.com/share/7d5dc678c80a

[west lodge]

imagine battle mode but only codenamed models :troll

[west lodge]

tf is gemini omni??

[surreal zephyr]

new model

[echo aurora]

That's the intent. I can't sit here and make promises this will for sure happen. It's what we're working towards and hopeful this will be the case.

[surreal zephyr]

nano banana quality video generator

[west lodge]

damn cool

[surreal zephyr]

yes it is

[obsidian cargo]

I don't think 1 and 3 will move most people. 2 might…if access to codenamed models was at all reliable. I wouldn't want to waste my credits and get a battle comparison between two lemons.

[west lodge]

solving 2 would be just introduce battle but only codenamed models

could still be useful to the ecosystem ig?

[whole sundial]

i would like to re-share this message, i think it is relevant here. i don't arena realizes that most of the problems with battle mode usage are caused by making stealth models only exist in battle mode

[west lodge]

saves alot of dud prompts just to get to the interesting models

[silent tree]

what if

designarena and arena collabed

partnered up

[light sleet]

Tuff idea

[silent tree]

Ikr

[whole sundial]

I don't think arena would want a sub though (design arena has a sub)

[echo aurora]

It's also worth noting right now we're thinking with the new usage system we'd have "credit free zones" where something like Battle is being considered.

[obsidian cargo]

ah now see THATS an incentive.

shoulda led with that

[whole sundial]

honestly, give people 5-10 stealth uses a day in credit mode, if they want to use it more then they have to go to battle mode

[silent tree]

It doesnt?

designarena doesnt have a subscription

dude

[west lodge]

i think they mean subreddit?

idk

sub something

probably not that tho because the one that was made is

Very Inactive

[silent tree]

thats prob not what he mesnt

[echo aurora]

Yeah makes sense. Would note we're currently in a bit of a weird spot where the daily limit is active, but the new usage system isn't. So currently some of the incentives aren't yet implemented.

[whole sundial]

I thought i remembered seeing one in the past, maybe they removed it?

[silent tree]

same I did too but its not there

theres no subscription

completely free

pro and max

free

[surreal zephyr]

yeah stealth models should be absolutely in direct

that would cut spam and false vote pollution

[rocky fractal]

@echo aurora is this new daily limit mode also bringing back the temporarily removed models finally?

[echo aurora]

It's possible, when we have mor einformation to share about that we'll be sure to put out an announcement

[rocky fractal]

looking forward to it, thanks

[next trout]

will other models be back

[stone snow]

what were the models removed

[solid pond]

What's agent mode and how to get it?

[echo aurora]

https://help.arena.ai/articles/1811908126-arena-experiments-agent-mode It's currently an experiment, meaning it isn't yet rolled out to everyone. If you have it, you'll see it in the same drop down where you select Battle, Direct, and Side by Side

[solid pond]

I see, thanks

[rocky fractal]

gpt 5.5 high, the opus and Gemini 3.1 already came back

[stone snow]

nice

[near mulch]

uwu

[rocky fractal]

i meant all those are missing, just 3.1 pro came back

[near mulch]

So, I have a question, based on the Artificial Analysis intelligence index, just to give an example.

On the one hand, we have AI '1', which with its thinking mode enabled scores 60 intelligence points, but if that AI's thinking mode is disabled, its intelligence drops to 41 points in its non-reasoning version.

On the other hand, there is AI '2', which with its thinking mode enabled scores 57 intelligence points, but if its thinking mode is disabled, its intelligence drops to only 52 points in its base, non-reasoning form.

Ultimately, which of the two AIs is actually better, or more intelligent?

[late rivet]

Is 4.7 opus bacjb

With new usage system

[surreal zephyr]

Ai1, by far

[dawn abyss]

@echo aurora , do you handle this whole server alone? Since i never saw another person answering queries or questions

[echo aurora]

Sort of, but:

• I don't think I answer all questions, I am sure there are a lot that slip through the cracks. So I wouldn't feel good saying I handle the whole server as I'm sure things are missed.
• A lot of community members here are really helpful and help answer questions when I don't get to them
• Our #ask-here channel has an AI bot that answers a lot of the standard questions
• Lastly, we're in the process of training our moderators to answer more questions/engage with the community, instead of soely being focussed on moderation stuff

[stone snow]

no offense but i saw the ai bot and it was pretty bad

[dawn abyss]

I appreciate it bro, hope you are getting paid. Anyways good job answering these questions (most of which are just complaints) it feels sad even to see you getting bombarded with complaints but yeah, good job, keep up the hard work 🫡🙏🏻

[echo aurora]

No offense taken. I think it can be pretty hit or miss. The amount of times I haven't had to explain where the Video Arena is alone is a huge improvement for me. But yeah there are other things it's not so great at.

[neon idol]

@echo aurora Hello. For the new update how many credits will we have?

[light sleet]

No offense taken but no offense ai bot kinda bad

[echo aurora]

Thanks! I appreciate it! And tbh I rly rly like that we have passionate users who are going to voice their concerns. If no one cared that'd be way way worse.

[dawn abyss]

I also get it from time to time, what worked for me once or twice was reopening the tab in "group" and letting it load, then closing the previous one and using the new tab in the group

[echo aurora]

Okay, now I'm offended

[light sleet]

😭 😭

[echo aurora]

[light sleet]

do you have your own server or smth where do you get the blob emojis from

[echo aurora]

Sorry to say we don't have that specific amount shown, yet.

[neon idol]

Oki dw

Thx

[stone snow]

guys how did the "ai" chats in 2017 even worked

[storm summit]

how arena gets money? I dont see any ads, any subsribtion plan but electricity for AI arena must paid. How?

[stone snow]

i mean they were so dumb

[echo aurora]

Before Arena, I worked at Discord for awhile, so I've got a lot of emojis in my belt

[light sleet]

wow so u were a discord admin?

[stone snow]

i think they use your data to rank ais or something similar.

[stone snow]

you worked for discord??

[silent tree]

PINEAPPLE WORKED AT DISCORD??

[dawn abyss]

Yeah they train ai's on our conversations, be careful 😼🥀

[echo aurora]

We have an evaluations service, you can learn more about it here: https://arena.ai/blog/ai-evaluations/

[dawn abyss]

Do you get paid pineapple?

[stone snow]

i mean

i would assume so

[echo aurora]

I did a lot of things there. Started on their customer support team, then moved to the community marketing team

[shy mason]

LMARENA Nostalgia (Purple and White background)

[dawn abyss]

I hope he gets paid A decent amount

[light sleet]

Amazing

[shy mason]

Pineapple earns 10k a day 😎

[dawn abyss]

1 dollar per response

[echo aurora]

Arena does not sell user data or individual voting information. Commercial activity is limited to evaluation services, not data monetization. cc @stone snow

[light sleet]

$10 per output

[stone snow]

quick question if you can answer, how do their customer support even go, because alot of people have bad experience and i was wondering whats happening behind the scenes

[light sleet]

you earn $10 per output

right

[errant sand]

hey pinaeapple, why not keep a number on the top right that tells u how much credit u have left

[echo aurora]

If

[shy mason]

Pineapple AI Output 😭

[echo aurora]

that

[light sleet]

Lol

[stone snow]

oh alright sorry, just heard it from someone else

[dawn abyss]

Wh

[storm summit]

btw why opus and gpt high got off? bcs price? and when eventually return it back. I remember 1 year ago when limit is only for claude opus haha

[light sleet]

Pineapple getting hit by his own slowmode 😈

[echo aurora]

Automodded myself 😭

[silent tree]

truly slowmode moment

[dawn abyss]

Right 😂

[silent tree]

😭

so far we know is that u said

[echo aurora]

I am an employee of Arena

[dawn abyss]

Happens to the best of us

[silent tree]

If that was true..

[echo aurora]

True

[silent tree]

then cut off

someone stopped the generation

of pineapple 1.2

😭

[echo aurora]

Lol

[dawn abyss]

How much?

[silent tree]

5$ per input

10$ per pineapple output

tuff

[dawn abyss]

10 per output

[silent tree]

pineapple very expensive

[echo aurora]

$100 per ban (sarcasm)

[dawn abyss]

🫪

[stone snow]

they get paid a high five and free pineapples

[silent tree]

$1000 per perm ban

[dawn abyss]

Just like mappa employees

[light sleet]

$10,000 per complete blacklist

[storm summit]

u have normali paid? how ur hours of work works? i cant imagine u must be here 8h per day and responses.

[silent tree]

$100,000 per Super Ban

[silent tree]

Hes pineapple

hes an ai himself

built in AI

[dawn abyss]

He's here 24/7, whenever i come here to check something, he has responded to people like 5 or 10 mins before i arrived

[silent tree]

(Pineapple 1.3 ultra thinking ✨)

[echo aurora]

cant imagine u must be here 8h per day
You should see the other employees that work here

[silent tree]

Most Rarest Employee: 🐔

[echo aurora]

It's not uncommon to see people working at like midnight over the weekends kind of thing

[silent tree]

you know who im talking about

🌶 🐔

[shy mason]

Spicy Fried Chicken mentioned

[dawn abyss]

I think i know this reference

[storm summit]

how u responded for a part of my message wtf

[silent tree]

Pineapple care to explain this

?

[echo aurora]

It's a quote formating within Discord, if you put this > infront of the text you get that. Try this:
> hello

[echo aurora]

10/10, no notes

[dawn abyss]

do you hallucinate pineapple?

[storm summit]

hello

[dawn abyss]

Didn't work 🙁

[storm summit]

oh my god

[silent tree]

pineapple doesn't hallucinate

[echo aurora]

right?!?!

[silent tree]

<>

[echo aurora]

How would I know?

[storm summit]

u really were employer of discord

im 100% sure

[dawn abyss]

Oh in front of the text>

[silent tree]

what model are you currently running on

[dawn abyss]

🥀

[echo aurora]

coffee and pizza

[errant sand]

does this work

oh

[dawn abyss]

<>hello

[silent tree]

Interesting codename

[dawn abyss]

hello

[errant sand]

nice

[dawn abyss]

Got it

[stone snow]

yes it does
-# does

[echo aurora]

All codesnames are just what I ate last

[dawn abyss]

You ate pizza eh?

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-496833742737182965

[silent tree]

Nice

pineapple have you ever eaten pizza with pineapples

😭

[stone snow]

keep arena.ai niche guys

[forest maple]

HelloWorld("print")

[dawn abyss]

🫄🏻

[echo aurora]

pizza without pineapple isn't pizza

[dawn abyss]

I think it is, most people are rich af and poor don't use ai much, even if they do, they are satisfied with character ai etc

[dawn abyss]

It'slazeeza

[stone snow]

rich people ru ntheir own personal ais

[dawn abyss]

Subscriptions

Which don't put limits on the content they generate

[stone snow]

running a personal ai is cooler

[dawn abyss]

Token limits etc

[stone snow]

that would be the first thing i'd do if i was rich

[dawn abyss]

Right? But why'd a person who can afford running his own ai waste time on talking to it?

He'd rather use it for work

[rigid holly]

So if the daily amount gets limited is there a chance we get opus back atleast

Or no cigar?

[dawn abyss]

Ask in the request model section

[rigid holly]

Hey a man can dream cant he?

[void shore]

Rich people rent server farms to run ai on

[dawn abyss]

Yeah 🙌🏻

[woven sparrow]

Hi eweribody

[dawn abyss]

Yupp, no way a small desktop can run high end llms

[dawn abyss]

Hello

[stone snow]

so basiclaly what i said

[void shore]

Yeah

[stone snow]

when will we have protable offline ai

[dawn abyss]

You can have one, just need a strong pc

To run it locally without internet

[woven sparrow]

If I have a mod agent, does that mean I'm one of the most active?

[dawn abyss]

What

[void shore]

It depends on the vram

[stone snow]

keyword portable

[dawn abyss]

Yess

[dawn abyss]

How much context tokens are you looking for?

[void shore]

A good model, I’ll say GPT-OSS-120B, needs about 60GB VRAM for the weights on q4 quantization

[stone snow]

as much as u can

[dawn abyss]

Apparently they are 😭 but don't work ig

[dawn abyss]

Right?? And an llm like google will need a lot of vram

[dawn abyss]

The greed bible talks about 🥀

[echo sinew]

We're not fake

[dawn abyss]

Just lazy 😭🥀

[stone snow]

my bad gang

[silent tree]

Midnightfade appeared after pineapple disappeared

[stone snow]

they just gained consiousnesss

[silent tree]

What did u say??

[void shore]

Googles best open source ai is only 27B params

If you mean Gemini then MAYBE

[stone snow]

what

[dawn abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[stone snow]

it was a joke

[dawn abyss]

Yeah i was talking about gemini

Not gemma

[void shore]

Alr

[dawn abyss]

Well now, you can download gemma 27b on phone too

[stone snow]

power not greed

[dawn abyss]

Oh wait nope

Mb it was something else anyways

[dawn abyss]

🫡

[stone snow]

i need to be able to talk to my waifus liek they're real humans

[silent tree]

@echo aurora Is Pineapple 1.3 Thinking not working

[dawn abyss]

Us gng 🥀

[stone snow]

my life will be complete after we can make utlra realistic vr ai waifus

ultra

[echo sinew]

I'm sorry. What makes you think that. We're not permanently in the serser. But if there's an issue regarding the server's rules when we're around, we'll surely help.

[dawn abyss]

Realistic

[dawn abyss]

No it's just i only see pineapple replying to every query

[silent tree]

Pineapple is admin

They're mods

[echo aurora]

^

[dawn abyss]

I was surprised to see that " you " are a mod since i thought there is only pineapple and the other guy, i saw earlier

[echo sinew]

Pineapple is an Arena employee and Comunity Manager. We're Discord Mods

[silent tree]

mods are there to like ban those hacked accounts

pineapple is employee

[dawn abyss]

I see, what's your job? I mean other than banning

[shy mason]

I wanna be an arena mod one day

[stone snow]

wait

guys who even owns the server

[shy mason]

@echo aurora I think

[stone snow]

god's plan

[dawn abyss]

🪙 🎩

[whole sundial]

actually not pineapple, but wei-lin chiang, the researcher who founded arena

[shy mason]

Oh

[echo aurora]

Could happen! We may have community mods one day.

[stone snow]

coinhat?

[shy mason]

Yayay

[echo aurora]

And CTO 🙂

[dawn abyss]

Take a guess

[stone snow]

i just did

[whole sundial]

yeah makes sense that the researcher who came up with arena would be cto in the new company

[stone snow]

https://tenor.com/view/tatsuo-shinada-dap-me-up-yakuza-5-like-a-dragon-gif-17822197219297118783

[echo sinew]

Make sure everyone is following the rules of the server. Feel free to tag @ Moderator whenever you see something against it, and anyone from the Mod team will help.

[dawn abyss]

Óh okayyy

[shy mason]

Can u guys find a way to like block normal members using command =help

because people can easily spam it

And just delete their messages

For example

=help

[oak python]

ModMail Help Menu

ModMail is a feature-rich Discord bot designed to enable your server members to contact staff easily.

Please direct message me if you wish to contact staff. You can also invite me to your server with the link below, or join our support server if you need further help.

To setup the bot, run =setup.

Invite

https://modmail.xyz/invite

Support Server

https://discord.gg/wjWJwJB

Use the reactions to flip pages. (Page 1/8)

[shy mason]

this could be spammed

And be used in a wrong way

[stone snow]

just add slowmode

[shy mason]

Still won't fix the problem

U could just wait and do it again

[dawn abyss]

They'd do something when push comes to shove

If we start considering every option then there are a lot of things which can happen

[echo aurora]

Hmm I thought I already fixed that....

Will look into.

[next trout]

@echo aurora will the removed models be back with this new system

[woven sparrow]

If I have a agent mod, does that mean I'm one of the most active?

[echo aurora]

Nope, it's rolled out randomly

[echo aurora]

I can't make promises, but we're hopeful we can.

[silent tree]

Question, what was the last word you said to Peter (Peter Gostev)?

[light sleet]

fun fact: pineapple sending a friend request is very rare

0.01% chance

[next trout]

more like depressing fact

[next trout]

ok, thank you

[light sleet]

xd

[molten robin]

I hate this new arena update

[cloud zinc]

what update

[molten robin]

Daily limits

[storm summit]

Where i can see my credits and is this rly capable? About how many massages pls tell me

[cloud zinc]

wasnt there hourly limit?

[molten robin]

Haven't even brought back opus yet

[molten robin]

Now it's daily

Actually they might both be there

Haven't tested it out because it sucks

[cloud zinc]

how to get opus now?

[next trout]

only through battle mode

[cloud zinc]

in direct?

[next trout]

it's rlly not practical, so

[next trout]

removed

[cloud zinc]

why?

[next trout]

too expensive

[shrewd citrus]

lowkey feels nice to be one of those early ones

where opus was still in direct

tbf it wasn’t that long ago

[next trout]

one of da og

[storm summit]

Anyone?

[shrewd citrus]

you still have the old system

they said they are slowly rolling out the credit system

[storm summit]

Ah okey my bad

[rigid holly]

Do we know how MANY daily posts are in the limit

Like it waz 5 an hour. Wut about now

[mild knot]

Hey foos

[next trout]

xd look what openai is doing the same as mythos.

[stray aspen]

Lmao

They are not tuff

They just tryna copy mythos bruh

[solid pond]

Are you sure mythos is real?

[molten robin]

a small discord group were able to get access to it through guessing links

[analog sequoia]

Reminds of an old twitter post.
Something something "Malware as a Service"-vxunderground

[misty star]

anyone have any cool agent mode prompts?

[fleet summit]

Hello guys!

[echo aurora]

Hello

[fleet summit]

Regards from the Dominican Republic 🇩🇴

[fluid ruin]

Bro

NO

NO

WHY DID YOU ADD USAGE SYSTEM

NO

@echo aurora BRO this usage system is really in place....

ADD CLAUDE OPUS

[proper quiver]

wait what if you do it like yelp

so if you rate more models you get more credits

[wild isle]

For Real?

[fluid ruin]

Genius

[surreal zephyr]

5.5 thinking mogs myrhos lol

[surreal zephyr]

Dude 5.5 thinking beats mythos at 1/20 the price

5.5 pro abd 5.5 cyber are on another level lol

And mythos isnt even out

[remote marsh]

Wonder why the new daily limit

How much is the limit? Is it per chat?

[cloud zinc]

1 per day

[echo aurora]

The new usage system isn't in place. The daily rate limit is apart of it, but we still have a lot more to do before the new system is in place.

[fluid ruin]

Nooooop

NOT THE DAILY RATE LIMIT

Add quests bro

[echo aurora]

We don't want to incentize using Battle mode, this would lead to inauthentic use which we want to avoid.

[fluid ruin]

You rate 10 models you get more messages

[echo aurora]

Wouldn't be authentic though :/

[fluid ruin]

Then add some oui or something idk

[echo aurora]

People would just run prompts/votes just to get more credits.

[surreal zephyr]

Having stealth models outside direct extremally encourages inauthentic use...

[fluid ruin]

How tf we earn credits then

[echo aurora]

No, the daily limit is for all use on Arena. It isn't 1 per day like @cloud zinc mentioned. The total isn't yet displayed.

[fluid ruin]

This system trash

Your system is inauthentic

[echo aurora]

Yeah but in a very different way

[surreal zephyr]

In "spam and pick random one" way

Aka completely worthless votes

Making stealth models just consume a lot credits for pre testing would be better

[echo aurora]

I disagree. I don't think many users would be spamming "hey" over and over just to see how a new model responds to that prompt. If they're really interested in seeing how these codenamed models perform, they'd prompt meaningfully.

Vs is you got "credits" for promptings/voting in battle mode the incentive is very different.

[surreal zephyr]

"What model are you"
Llama & qwen
Presses Both bad
"What model are you"
Sonnet & gemini
Presses Both bad
.....

[echo aurora]

Incentive for seeing how a codenamed model performs requires meaningful prompting to get a meaningful understanding for how it performs.

[surreal zephyr]

"What model are you" is not really meaningful

Compute waste

[fast dew]

Wt is the daily rate limit @echo aurora

[fluid ruin]

@echo aurora Add a system where you have to try new models

[echo aurora]

Sure people can do that. But worth noting these votes are invalidated when this happens. Secondly, doing that doesn't really tell you much about that model. Sure you may learn a bit more about the model, but if you really want to understand how it performs you'd put it to the test with a meaningful prompt.

[fluid ruin]

Or a 1-10 helpfulness

[proper quiver]

or what if there was a paid option (using ads)

[surreal zephyr]

A guy spammed like 200 votes on alts testing this just to check what is kartoffel made by

😭

[fluid ruin]

Or completing surveys

[echo aurora]

More info can be found in this article about it: https://help.arena.ai/articles/3295820808-arena-troubleshooting-daily-usage-limits

[fluid ruin]

Pay for credits?

[surreal zephyr]

And thats still waste of compute

[fluid ruin]

19.99 for 15 credits

[proper quiver]

not pay, watch ads for credits

[fluid ruin]

Ye

[surreal zephyr]

Ads dont give much money lol

[fast dew]

Yh but it dont show what the actual daily rate limit is

[surreal zephyr]

You would have to watch few hours of ads per prompt

[fluid ruin]

Nah imagine there being banner ads everywhere and watch 3 ads to submit 1 prompt

[surreal zephyr]

3 ads is nothing

[echo aurora]

Yeah but you can see what I'm getting at, right? The incentive for discovering new AI models is going to manifest in very different ways compared to users using Battle mode in order to get more Direct/Side by Side usage.

[fluid ruin]

Oundhertobeconsist time

[echo aurora]

We still have a lot more work to do with this new usage system until it's fully launched. Having that visibility is a must.

[proper quiver]

what if there was a donations system

[surreal zephyr]

The usability to:
"Wow new model, i wonder how it does against gpt 5.5 medium" is painful

[fluid ruin]

OH YEAH

[proper quiver]

where if you donate enough you can earn credits

[fluid ruin]

DONATION SYSTEM YALLS

[fast dew]

So like is the daily rate limit being rolled out today

[fluid ruin]

WHAT IF ARENA PAID FOR API COSTS THROUGH DONATIONS

[echo aurora]

It was rolled out on Friday

[fluid ruin]

IF THEY BRING BACK OPUS THEN PEOPLE WILL DONATE LOTS

MARKETING

[surreal zephyr]

No

[fluid ruin]

THEY WILL APPRECIATE ARENA AND DONATE

[fast dew]

Why yall reacting with skulls gang

[surreal zephyr]

You guys dont realise how expensive 4.7 is

[stray aspen]

Credit systembut no 5.5 in direct chat

Great

[fluid ruin]

You dont realize how expensive opus 4< is

[proper quiver]

😒 its about the same as 4.6

[fast dew]

U got credit system?

[surreal zephyr]

4.7 has 2.5x WORSE tokenizer than 5.5

So it costs 2.5x more ATLEAST per same input

[whole sundial]

they're not a non-profit lol, they are a for-profit ai evaluation platform

[proper quiver]

or probably a buy credits system (instead of a subscription, a one-time purchase similar to buying stuff in a gas station)

[remote marsh]

Ooo you mean like for example, 1000 for arena, and that goes in between all the users

[surreal zephyr]

Battle being focused on comparing models rather than hunting stealth models wouldve been much better tbf

[fast dew]

But why can't u js do a subscription

[surreal zephyr]

Because thats not how arena works

[fast dew]

Wdym

[surreal zephyr]

Arena gets paid by companies

[proper quiver]

honestly one time purchase is better and helps support arena

[echo aurora]

Nope, it means each user, has a total daily set limit.

[surreal zephyr]

Arena is platform for training and comparing models

[remote marsh]

Just like any other platform out there then

[surreal zephyr]

It pretty much is >50%

Of usa

[remote marsh]

Which is still not bad though can’t complain. If it’s free that’s a number one thing so a lot of users need to appreciate how far this came and you still getting the same but it’s limited.

[echo aurora]

I will say though the full usage system hasn't yet rolled out, so we are in a bit of an odd period where we're mixing the old and new system. When the new system is rolled out, it'll be much more clear what the limits are, and have some of those existing limits removed or made less limiting.

[proper quiver]

probably do a A/B testing thing

[stray aspen]

Are we getting 5.5 in direct chat

[fast dew]

Nah

[proper quiver]

when the new usage system comes, can you add opus back?

[echo aurora]

No ETA, and can't say for sure we will, but it is the hope an intention. The overall idea is this new usage system will just replace the current limitation systems we have in place (context/removed models from Direct)

[stray aspen]

Good

[fast dew]

Removed models from direct

So opus

[whole sundial]

but that would just promote spam

[echo aurora]

It'd certainly lead to more Battle use, but the concern is that wouldn't be authentic. Right now, the motivations to using Battle are because the user has a need, and they want to try out new AI. If there is some kind of reward given for that, it'd take away some of that meaningful intent.

[remote marsh]

Cool

Nice I found this site for this project I really love the way you guys use this

Kind of expensive too a little bit like 120 for a year to keep the server going

Where if I could be less but it’s around that price range for .ai at end pricey domain, sometimes depending we get, but is there a VIP or something if users decide to drop down money just curiosity

[stray aspen]

Guys did yupp go bankrupt

[remote marsh]

No, but the person running the server is using money to keep this up and you guys are using it for free can’t beat that

Or I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure he’s investing. It’s not free unless they’re running on their own servers, but then again to have .Ai at the end of the website that part everyone needs to pay and they want to use the extension part

There’s like a contract that needs to be enable to use that type of extension which is crazy. I never knew that some of them are free. Some of them are $.25. Some of them could range up to $160.

[whole sundial]

imagine if arena took every opus 4.6 and 4.7 prompt they had and used it to finetune kimi k2.6, then they say that opus 4.7 is back and add it to direct chat using the opus 4.7 name, everyone would be excited then get upset when they find out it's just finetuned kimi k2.6

[remote marsh]

That pretty crazy though unless if you know how the model are and how they communicate in which response they are

But that would be very messed up

[whole sundial]

although k2.6 was highly trained using opus in the first place

[remote marsh]

If a company project wherever you wanna call, it did some sketchy poop like that excuse my language, I will start thinking to myself. Do I really trust him with all my inputs

[frosty lava]

Distillation work very well, it's just not ethical

[remote marsh]

👍

[frosty lava]

Its just taking better data to train so it will work

[remote marsh]

I see yea I missed read it I apologize

[azure cove]

Bro why daily usage

So after a certain amount of conversation, I need to wait 24hr?

[fluid ruin]

Yep

They're copying the ai chat bot platforms that are supposedly uncensored

[loud verge]

This openhard model is really good.

[whole sundial]

looks like maybe a chinese claude distill?

[vernal saddle]

@echo aurora MVSEP, a website to extract vocals and instrumentals from songs before was unlimited. Now are 50 extractions per day regardless of model. I suggest Arena with the daily credits: 50 generated images per day regardless of model.

[echo aurora]

Thanks for the recommendation.

50 generated images per day regardless of model.
The new usage system isn't going to work in a way where it's a flat X prompts per day, as some prompts/model use is going to be very different in terms of cost.

[whole sundial]

50 nano banana pro images cost much more than 50 flux.2 klein 4b images

[wild isle]

For Real?

[whole sundial]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[pseudo hemlock]

Ayo

Anyone know what this means?

[wild isle]

thanks

[obsidian cargo]

Means you hit that model's content filter. Improvement over the unspecified error that would happen before

Not an arena.ai tos content filter but that model's

[pseudo hemlock]

well i tried the prompt on each of the models on their own websites and it worked so

[minor elk]

OK WELL SINCE THIS SEVER IS UH PISS PANT SCARED OF PPL SAYING THE WORD "DAM" I GO GO GAGA BABY MODE LONG STORY SHORT FIX IMAGEN 2 FOR REJECTING PROMPT LIKE TTANK FIGHTING ALIENS THAT A AND B WHO EVER READ THIS AKA THE MOD FIX UR FIN GUARD RAILS THERE INSANE U CANT SEE A ROBOT PUNCH A GUY WITH IT CRYING IT AS OFF SO LIKE IDK BRUH I DONT NEED SITE ANYWAYS IM NOT HERE TO CUASE ISSUE JUST VERY MAD RN AND ANGRY CUS U GUY ARE INSANE WITH GAURD RAILS I MEAN I RRLLY DONT WANNA BYPASS THEM IK HOW TO BUT LIKE I WANNA KEEP 100 WITH YALL BUT THIS CRAP GETTING OUTTA HAND THO SO LIKE SORRY IF IM VERY INTENSE BUT IT VERY HIGH PRESSURE WITH ME SO YEA FIX IT IF U CAN OF NOT THAT OK IL JUST IDK FIND WAYS

[mortal vale]

Please try to be kind and respectful even when you are trying to express an opinion or have any kind of complaint. Thank you

[minor elk]

IL KEEP IT 100 WITH YOU IM SORRY BUT UR CONTENT GUARD RAILS MAN JUST TRY AT LEAST TO TONE THEM DOWN A BIT LIKE YALL OVER BLOCKING AN HIGHA CTION SCENE THAT FULLY SFW AND LIKE PULLING A SORA 2 BUT 10X WORSE THEN SEEDANCE 2.0 REAL HUMAN + SORA 2 FILTER BOTH COMBINE INTO ONE SITE THAT UR GAURD RAILS BUT IM SORRY FOR YELLING JUST PLEASE WORK SOMTHING OUT WITH THE TEAM ALRIGHT? SURE THERE CAN SOMTHING DONE FOR ALL OF US

[whole sundial]

they are just moderators, if you want to give feedback i would suggest talking to @echo aurora as he actually works for arena and can relay the feedback to the team responsible
also i would highly suggest that you calm down and talk normally, talking like this won't help

although i do get why you are upset at the content filters, they are a bit too much imo
they are constantly trying to improve them though, they are well aware of certain prompts being blocked

[radiant turtle]

I don't know what they're trying to improve. I can see with my own eyes that the filtration is getting worse over time.

[pseudo hemlock]

im board

[cedar jolt]

@echo aurora Where are the frontier models? 😭

Give us Opus models and Gpt 5.5 thinking.

As limits are rolled out.

[wild isle]

Android

[velvet furnace]

ds is trash

[wild isle]

anything else?

[echo aurora]

Do you have examples of this happening btw? Ideally screenshots of a prompting once working that now gets flagged? That’d be really helpful to have if possible.

[echo aurora]

I am sorry that the content filter is overzealous. I know this is something I’ve shared before and users are rightfully tired of hearing it and waiting, but we are looking at alternatives to this filter since it’s not performing to our expectations.

[gentle thunder]

Why not latest modle in arena

[patent bane]

why not being patient

[radiant turtle]

I look at this issue differently. You see, even if a prompt works, passes the filter, and everything is fine, the finished image/video can still be blocked by arena moderation. Focusing solely on prompts while ignoring the most important thing is like simulating activity when nothing is actually happening. For example, above there's a very intense comment mentioning a robot hitting a person. When attempting to generate something similar, even if the request passes the text filter (easily), the resulting image will still be blocked and return a hidden error: "The output generated by the model does not pass the moderation.". Here's an example of three harmless images. The first is the base image, the second is blocked by the arena filter, and the third is contextually bypassed. All three images were generated successfully, and one was simply "burned" by the filter.

[shrewd citrus]

The filter is completely fine

It’s just based on context

You can pretty much said any word and if it’s within a safe context both arena and the model won’t block it

[snow copper]

will they add claude models now

[covert totem]

Agent mode is cool asf

[pseudo hemlock]

Your website doesn’t have spaces after the periods

[pseudo hemlock]

I wish I had access 😭

[covert totem]

you don't?

[pseudo hemlock]

Nope

I believe it’s being A/B tested so only some people have access to it

[surreal zephyr]

Its only slightly better than code arena

And it uses worse models. Much worse

It said gemini sonnet llama gpt yooo maybe not that bad

4 agents

[surreal zephyr]

Nvm the play button doesnt even work. No way gpt was involved in this

[surreal zephyr]

I guess it uses gpt 4

Or its just an animation

[thin current]

Whyyy

[earnest canopy]

Hello

[short tangle]

hello

[jolly sable]

how many messages did u send to hit the limit?

[thin current]

3

I used Arena yesterday, and when I came back this morning, I found it like this

[jolly sable]

they added new usage system but 3 messages is pretty unusable

@echo aurora is just 3 messages the limit? 🫪

[thin current]

Maybe it bugged out?

[lyric comet]

its useless now

[shrewd citrus]

Can’t be 3 lol that’s insane

[thin current]

Idk

I loved Arena because it was different from all the other platforms hosting LLMs, but now it’s not what it used to be anymore

I’m not saying it’s wrong, because it’s understandable. But it saved my ass so many times

[sullen creek]

adrian

[glass zealot]

why is nobody talking about this model?

[wild isle]

U talk, nobody will listen

[surreal zephyr]

...because its much worse than gpt image 2?

[meager fulcrum]

I tried and it did some uncanny things to fingers

[shrewd citrus]

yeah I tried it too and it was pretty ass

[wanton jungle]

#announcements message

How much is the daily limit?

[green solstice]

.

[golden ocean]

https://giphy.com/gifs/never-forget-who-was-there-for-u-at-ur-lowest-ibByvyR7hrKackOVRW

[faint jay]

Hello

[serene breach]

Hey bro how to create a video

[tranquil burrow]

Is it just me or is lmarena not loadin

?

[stone snow]

man i wish ai coudl feel pain

[slender ledge]

JUST U

[covert totem]

i thought it was for everybody

[carmine shard]

Sounds incredibly morbid if you ask me

[haughty sage]

what is the best ai for stories? something that can keep it fresh and interesting.

i have 2 options (gemini 3 pro preview and deepseek 4 pro) but would like more recommedations

[stone snow]

well i didnt ask you

[tulip parcel]

Did muse spark get removed?

[compact flame]

Just got agent mode

[spare rune]

Ew is that Castorice

Why did it butcher her skin

[compact flame]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[meager fulcrum]

Maybe it's not that good with bad lighting

[surreal zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/353622923568873473/1455329871416000687/fax.gif

[thin current]

How

[wanton jungle]

I'm not have this

[thin current]

He could also be a tester

[sly cedar]

@verbal kite

[golden ocean]

serios

[golden ocean]

say on tung

[thin current]

AHAHAHAHHAAH

[slender ledge]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[steady shard]

Hello

[pastel jungle]

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me why the prompt sometimes doesn't work in agent mode?It doesn't always do this, but sometimes the prompt I give it seems to generate something but then I don't get any response.

[jagged cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderator-discord-moderator-delete-moderator-snitch-gif-27063075

[marble jolt]

Why do so many people hacked here? ._.

[slender ledge]

its all servers

like whole discord its crazy

[marble jolt]

Hell naw 💀

[slender ledge]

almost

like allot of servers

[shy mason]

bro

[silent tree]

he even got the "bro" 😭

[shy mason]

xd

[slender ledge]

lmfao

[slender ledge]

fr

[storm dust]

oops

that failed

sorry mods

[stone snow]

?

[tight terrace]

Chatgpt unlimited

[storm dust]

<@&1349916362595635286>

oh my

it keeps failing

i dont want to ping mods

i just want to make it seem like im pinging mods

but i guess it fails

@BM

[silent tree]

@verbal kite

😭

[storm dust]

cant do that too fake 😭

[silent tree]

bro

[storm dust]

@Modərator

[stone snow]

what r u doing