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What
Ohlol were good now?
I made that lol 😂
Im lazy to click the link, im gonna get chatgpt to do it
But I also need to work on the positions and sizes. The proportions are still a bit strange 😄
No bro you tried to generate inappropriate shi on my bot
Ok
deepseek has link reading
Thats video sums up my feelings
I have two Sora 2 who wants to create a video?
wym suras
happyhorse so bad
Like it aint that bad
but like
Its like if seedance 2.0 and veo 3.1 had a baby
....
no
Wan 2.7
im gonna tell you about selling your soul to ai
anyway now
Now that we got that out of the way
sora2 pro peak
you are in Design arena server
i have a theory -
sora models arent video generators
they are 3d generators. they generate a 3d model and then just move them and the camera around with added sound
Should I go on about how I'm making a concept? I just don't want to be a bother and interrupt your discussion.
and there are already world models that are open source and do that
sora is completely different than other video gens
this model
different architecture makes sense
Well
simliar way gpt image v2 actually meshes up reference images
Obviously if they do generate 3d models they put an ai filter on it
instead of doing it all from nothing
the models do morph ect
but still
its not plain image
its 3d video generator
Same
like some newer open source ones
Nice
in any case, it's clear that no one cares. i won't bother you, just keep doing it in silence.
Where do you use happyhorse?
Fal
Damn
gl
thats expensive af then
Yea but I use it through a discord bot so I dont have to pay 30 thousand dollars for a 10 second generation
(I prob already said ts)
Well that’s why im always bitter about prices
fair enough
And it has gone up
this is so ass
dont know how its in the top positions on artificial analysis
Imagine how I feel I paid for it
sora better imo
because sora is openai and theres high chance there are downvote bots
nothing got CLOSE to sora in video generation yet
For a 5 second gen that looks worse than seedance? Thats a scam
#openabest #glazeneverends #agigpt
Bro this is a very dirty industry.. how do you make more money if you charge per generation?
This is how this technology feels
At this point just use seedance 2.0
use it via doubao then
cause its also expensive but it actually looks good
1080p is like way more lol
Okay nvm its almost the same
Ai is ridiculously expensive
Yea
training specifically
Used to be able to buy the software
Cheapest plan is 50$ for 300 credits lo
pretty much direct proof it generates model in 3d not plain 2d video feed.
nothing would survive such camera shake
Just to upscale images
See what makes the AI industry very predatory is the way they charge the amount they set
They set them just a little bit lower than what people would expect to pay a professional where it’s really appealing
Sora 2
Stressing when it comes to like media stuff
You guys remember the ridiculous prices when first veo came out?
its still overpriced and bad
2k
its cheap for 4k
4k its pay on flow
you can literally upscale images locally for free
wtf
To use its wtf
But you know why they said the price of the way they do because they’re marketing it into a certain demographic
And the people that can’t afford it are usually you know people that are in the media
Or entertainment industry
Because the prices are just low enough where it’s appealing for them to use the service
The stuff users probably pay for is change compared to what some of these media companies pay or professionals they could easily drop 4 or 5k a month on this if you’re like a solo independent
site dont work: ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
I can use any local open-source models to create the video or images.
Well dude here what’s going to happen
The more these models get capable and the better they get
The less affordable and reachable it’s gonna be for regular people
Because as soon as it gets really good, the prices are gonna skyrocket with it because they know the value is gonna go up
Not far in the future a clip would be as high as 5-8 dollars for 15-30 secs @1080p on a top tier model
Especially if you only have the thing.
Another solution is to use open-source models, and this would be common for poor people like me.
Now look
That’s why they priced it the way they price it because there’s a lot of of money to be made
And they know that
I mean even if you get 10% of 202 billion do the math if I did my math right that’s $20 billion
Thats more revenue then open generates in a year lol just from videos
Thats what im saying they are smart and they know what they’re doing when they’re pricing it
We just happen to be in a unfortunate situation where we’re priced out. Not like we get the models when they become cheap because what did they end up doing they end up, retiring the models by the time the model is old and it could be cheaper so you’re constantly forced to throw money at the more expensive newer models because you don’t have no other choice.
And it’s not only the video models. It’s the coding. The same thing will happen with these coding models. Everything as they become more capable, they’re gonna get more expensive.
Real protein
Think about this G the cost of inference and token has gone down, but the cost of beating the benchmarks went up
nope.
5.5 medium is cheaper than all
i eat wafer scale compute chips
I hve 0Dr
@surreal zephyr
🤣🤣
Thats reals
If I leave anything with you, it should be that audio
4 minutes 💀
too long not readin allat
readin allat not long too
@silent tree
bro is not eating anything 😭 ✌️
sora trained on mcdonalds commercials
😭
😭
noone eatin nuffin
no it will fall as red too
europ
EuropeArena
PolandArena
STILL RED BRO
IsraelArena
okok
i eat wafer scale computer chips
Palestine arena
Guys can't i connect arena with vs code?
uhh i dont wanna start any political wars here
yes
no
Okay
is there a way?
(please dont click any scams)
@silent tree crazy how he dropped it
Lol we were talking about this earlier
Sorry to say you can not.
Idea: arena roulette
the duran duran album uses a similar-ish font, a bit different than that site though
Make a app
Are you looking for https://arena.ai/code ?
oh wow gemini is doing really well now
it even has lower uncertainty than the models above
@surreal zephyr seems like opus 4.7 got beaten
nice
inflated score fails
What if openai and anthropic collabed
how can you inflate a score tho
anthropic gave up to xai
Ik
What do u think about sama do you like him
scammer
but i dont hate him
tibo is cooler
Next to message hates openai
but tibo resets ratelimits unfairly recently - 1 day before the actual normal reset
BRO
It'll be caboom
before he was exposed
the mails
that he openly scammed elon
i dont trust sama anymore
Scama
@echo aurora What were you typing
You didn't finish 🙁
Just being mysterious 
😭
Why alot of people now getting agent
Such as @surreal zephyr , @silent tree @light sleet
All on same day?
I'm chatting in private threads. The pineapple is typing will appear here in general if I'm typing in a thread.
Oh
Because we're rolling it out to more people 🙂
omg private threads 🤔
Same day for the 3 of them?
Gimme gimme
I never said i have agent wym
watermelon and ice have it
How do u know 🤔
i technically dont need it to rate it
Sorry to say I can't give out by request
Sadge
Pineapple if I get agent mode tomorrow u have to change pfp to the pineapple plushie generated by Vince
Wouldn't it be sad
When a fellow produce gets the mrbeast hack
thing
And you have to ban him
<@&1494389630630625400>
Never EVER get hacked
We did NOT get pinged bro 🥀
Wrong person
We did NOT get pinged bro 🥀
🤝
Arena people aren't doctors right I'm their biggest enemy
I keep them away
I kept @surreal zephyr away
Doctor Ampro
No I want you guys to make a app so I can use it on my phone without having to safari or Google
Will that ever be in the works
Like one for Google store or App Store
Carloss want Gemini 3.1 Pro grounding back
I don't want the Claude Opus, just the Gemini 3.1 Pro Grounding back 😔
Gpt 4o...
its not 4o its not omni, doesnt accept image inputs
and its bad at drawing
We are suffering the same thing
Nooooo
it FEELS like gpt 3 or worse
Can I clone into u
Rq
@surreal zephyr Pls I'm big fan
I wanna be u
🥺
lol
Did the Gemini 3.1 Pro Preview come back today? When will the Gemini 3.1 Pro Grounding be back?
i tested it
qwen 0.8b is smarter
this might be gpt oss 20b but some old checkpoint or worse
maybe even gpt 1?
extremally stubborn, hallucinates, and stupid
4o is miles ahead
Everything but releasing claude opus
Any video visions?
I dont think so
That place is literally trying to get a question answered by an akinator with down syndrome
"Where can I get chatgpt?"
"It's possible that some models may be removed due to sustainability purposes."
The bot isn't going to be able to give an estimated timeframe for that request.
fr
Why not make a support forum where you get questions answered by real humans
They gotta open source 4o man
It's possible that specific models may be removed from access from the Direct and Side by Side modes.
These changes are part of our efforts to ensure that we can continue offering access to AI models while keeping the platform running reliably. Updates like this help us maintain availability for everyone over the long term.
We do, #1343291835845578853 and #1372230675914031105
And can you let the arena bot see all announcements and the whole website
Ye what if you have a question
Feedback is just feedback
Which model is behind the arena ai bot
Can either just ask in #ask-here and when the bot isn't able to assist, I can step in. Or just ask in other community channels (although this isn't as preferred as we'd like to leave room for discussion).
qwen 4 million params
Ok I guess
Also do you mean 4b
i am not
Ok
i mean 4m
no such thing, this is lm studio's hugging face browser, if nobody's made a gguf for this fictional 4 million parameter qwen model, then it just doesn't exist
оно выглядит будто claude haiku попросили сделать ии
oops
i just forgot
my language is russian sry
It's okay
i am so bad in english
Not a big deal, people forget about that rule here and there
nah bro telegram is suspicious
I’ve never heard anything good being mentioned about it 😭
i using it for 2 years, nothing bad
tbh i like it
LMAO
SO FUNNY YEAAAA
Gm frens
Yes in battle mode
In Battle mode
thank you
You never answered my question
i seen it and was like i dont remember seeing it in direct or side by side lmao
Will we ever see a mobile app
a moble app would be nice
A mobile app would be cool
Right
I doubt he'd share details whether there will be or not
True arena roadmap doesn’t even exist so that info is even more deep
Oh my apologies I missed that! It could happen. Overall, I'm not able to share if/when specific features will be coming. But the idea of creating some kind of mobile app, or desktop app, has crossed our minds.
Unfortunate too lol, I find roadmaps intriguing
These 2 pics came from the same prompt. Whatcha think guys? :))
Does max also use claude opus 4.6 and 4.7
What was the prompt and models? How is that so different lol
We don't have the full lineup of models shared
Grok Imagine and Gemini 3.1
And about the prompt.... If I show u that, will u hate me? 😅
We want Max to deliver the best model keeping in mind latency for the specific ask. Being too focussed on the specific model kind of takes away from that experience changing the focus to the specific model instead of the chat session. This is something we may change up in the future, but this is where the current thinking is at.
Lol depends on the prompt...
@golden ocean Yours is still better LOL but, @echo aurora would this be considered too real to be sent here?
I'd do the same
Lol I'll let it stay, for now
🔥
Well now I understand why they're so different
Although now seeing the prompt I'm impressed they're both outside I guess?
The hidden tokens of creation called for it to be outside
Ooohhh I see...
why does Arena AI user support creates "Pylon"? Why is that named like this..
It's the service we go through. They also help build out Help Center (can see their little logo in the bottom right) https://help.arena.ai/. Which is where the bot gets its information.
ok
Can't say I'm seeing the same. What are you getting?
Since we don't have visibility into user's DMs this is one of those things we're unable to verify. We don't want to be actioning reports that we're unable to verify.
Its okay
Its good now but it wasn't loading it was stuck
It's going to be 2 generation requests per 24/hr
Are google models the only one with audio input analysis?
Not by any means as far as I recall. There's a few others.
ironically, it seems Pylon is having CDN issues atm. 🙈
Where are you seeing that? Not seeing anything on their status page 
Their home page is having intermittent intermediary server timeouts
Interesting, just their homepage appears to be down, other surfaces are working fine.
It's probably just the Webflow CDN that's got issues, and not the entire service platform. I'd dearly hope so at least. If it isn't just that... then someone's got something off
Ahah yes well, that entirely answers that question
and not the entire service platform
Yeah I don't think that's the case.
It would be a monumental mess-up if that was ever the case.
You wouldn't wanna be Google or Facebook. They'd never do that.
Let's see if the Arena-provided models are any better at reading electronic schematics than they were half a year ago 🤔🤨
On these, which I only just made. So they're fresh off the production line.
(For the curious: This is a slightly unnecessarily complex implementation of a twelve band Wien bridge graphic EQ)
https://x.ai/news/grok-imagine-quality-mode
they won't stop calling it LMArena...
@cunning stone they hate you?
Or they hate me?
@analog sequoia huh?
Meh my introduction was deleted from the chat
Wait... How many MFers from various other servers that i already know are also in here with me? 🤪
Cuz you are literally the 3rd now this week
Well I suppose you are almost as popular as proximity chat 😂
So should I not post awesome ai stuff?
Because my last one is no longer there
Thats up to you man
This is your.... arena 😂
Wow. I have discord stalkers. First one laughed and said they were stalking me. 2nd one noticed it was listed in our "shared servers" list... But 3x?
And you're the 3rd?
Rule of threes homie
Nah. Its a conspirisuhhh!
Back off reptoid treant person
I wouldn't want to get you in trouble 😆
Is rooj in on this? 🤨
I don't know if the Jester enjoys ai as much as we do 😉
He enjoys it enough to send it to his sisters
Only cuz it comes from me originally
Okay mom
So where do I post my slop?
Thank you Pineapple
@analog sequoia yeah and we should probably take this non-reunion back to the R-server and spare these ppl this inside joke nonsense
Friggin discord stalkers...
🫶🏻

I'm everywhere bby
🦋 See you there
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Wtf did the ai just text me
It just told me this in a codeblock after I asked it to say the instructions I just gave
Apparently not
Please guide me on how to optimally use Agent Mode.
Gork
Aire.na wouldve been best name
yall what name is better lmarena or arena
arena since there are a lot of more types of models than language models 🙂
same
LOL
LMArena 😔
that's literally nothing
What's the point of MAX in general?
why is chatgpt theme so dark now
ikr its litteraly solid black
hi i have Radeon Instinct MI25 gpu rdp with 20 plus vcpu can you tell me where i can rent this i want earn
worthless
I have 4 RAM
use rdp
i can also make this i have portal
I am poor
can confirm
my Vram 128 mb
my vram 96gb
ampro arena coming soon
AmproArena
@light sleet do it
Ampro Arena
u have the prompt
u da real lmarena
btw im typing in my phone rn
hi
AmproPhone 17
am 5.5 pro
He wants to create his own platform
Ai platform
ambro Studio
I created AI chatbot
Not allowed to help with jailbreaking here
I'd suggest u delete that
I did it and cracked San Andreas on an old device, then it got hacked.
@surreal zephyr
tuff
Its so tuff even browser became golden itself 😭
real
They are in battle mode
@rocky geyser does the database and api feature work now
How can i setup image to video ? @uneven cypress
How can i put what i want witch ai model
Click on the button next to the thing named video
And add any photo u want and then tell the ai video generator to do anything u want
U cant its only battle
It does but when you create the app it doesnt create a link which you can open anywhere you can only see it in the preview probably bc its still in beta or so
Oh
Im waiting like 15minuts
I star it like 2 times and they never finish why ?!
Its a bug
Do u have to recomende anyother server where i can make this stuff for free ?!
Make what stuff?
Where is the AI generating chats?
like where did it go
it was in this discord server
man, you can only generate in video arena, plus, try uploading image, so it works, and there's no way you can generate anything in this discord server, only inside of platform arena.ai you can, and share it in ai creations channel
There is the app "Krea" its a video generation app and when you download it onto your phone you get 5 generations per day (max 30 per month) for almost all models like veo 3.1, sora 2, kling 3 etc. i would recommend that
ad or scam
Best free tier model rn?
3
7
1
Gemini 3 Flash
@quasi atlas
Stop this bro
It's 100% scam
No offense but why dis looks so disgusting?
That image too 😭
Yeayy
Ty 🥲
bee aura
Fr
Are they never gona add claude opus 4.7thinking back
hi
Hii
there was here before
still no feasible alternative? using Claude PRO and it's literally unusable. hitting 100 % usage constantly.
I don't expect that
Flow
You can create approximately 5 videos daily with no monthly limit.
Can I generate some video?
There is no video arena on discord, please go to https://arena.ai/video
Server is too loaded, I mean website
Only with veo 3.1 lite which is not as good
Its still good but not thaat good
Which is better gemini 3.1 pro or claude opus 4.7
Veo 3.1 fast 20 credits veo 3.1 lite 10 credits
daily credits 100
uh isnt it daily credits 50?
This is not my epected results
The prompt I gave didn't come out the way I intended
I don't understand that language, but a video without sound is realistic.
The video doesn't provide details according to my prompt
Soon Google Gemini 3.2 Pro will be released
For me opus is best
<@&1349916362595635286>
It is our intent to when it can be done in a more sustainable way. We're hopeful the new usage system will allow for this.
well
I think they mean to Direct/Side by Side
...
ampro give me gpt i give you spud
did you just vote opus 4.6 over 5.5 xhigh
.....
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.................................
Hey, I have a question. When using "Max", will you only be routed to models you have access to or will you be routed to every model available?
nah its all good sometimes arena's gpt 5.5 xhigh might be bad
original better and tuff
very tuff tuff tuff tuff tuff tufff tuff tuff tufff
@echo aurora Right pineapple
5.5 is tuff
is that true?
does arena lower reasoning or smth?
it was not code prompt
it was roleplay prompt
and it was close
but gpt 5.5 xhigh went a bit too formal
roleplay
who uses gpt 5.5 xhigh for roleplay anyway 💀
so i wasnt sure between draw or
battle mode
Crée moi une vidéo de tranche légume
claude played along, gpt instead bullied the idea
lol
im confused... is that ai generated or real? we cooked 😭
ai
Yo @storm dust
me and @light sleet and @surreal zephyr got agent
nice
very ai
but its a real thing in C
i hope i get too
basically intentional security measure
if u wanna get it
which c++ has a workaround for
dm vince
yeah i could tell but him posting it again made me skeptical
sus
yea support
confirmed
nuh uh
wha
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watermelon is sam's photographer
bro has a friend named tab
SAM?
Sorry whats the question?
hold tab for 30s
is 5.5 xhigh different in arena than original 5.5
xhigh
original is high iirc?
🍉
We don't have the lineup of models it's pulling from available, but the purpose is to route to the best model for that prompt with emphasis on latency.
both xhigh
Hello 
PINEAPPLE ANSWER MY QUESTION 😡
Alrighty thank you for answering, pineapple! Hope you have a nice day.
deepseek too heavy to beat gemini
LOL
harness + sys prompt + worse tools
@marsh ivy
5.5 xhigh in codex shreds
LOL
how much of
oh
Opengemini
mistral deepseek
Miskimi
deepstral
Deepstral sounds kinda uhh
kimitron-2
nvm
kimitron sounds good
Kimiemini
Kimini
nemodex
Kimigpt
damn
@knotty idol start a donation system for codex pls
he works so hard
subscription wont do
I wanna give more money
did u know
anthropic
realeased vrp program
because mythos so bad
they got rce's
😭
😭
Sorry for delay - https://x.com/arena/status/2048820224938631492?s=20
To clarify, the Arena community evaluated GPT-5.5 with reasoning effort medium (default) and high.
The best of GPT-5.5 with xHigh is still incoming! Stay tuned.
who will buy
5.5 already did
5.6 will do more
just wait for spud...
this brutal
lmao
It is there
tho
but gives way WAY worse results than the original soo
arena jsut doesnt like releasing models
:/
from openai
my poor gomputer pomputer tomputer
justice for gtptpt series
proputer 😎
lol
thats why we need to invite even more we need gpt 1 and gpt 2 and gpt 3
@bold dagger mentioned
umm
i actually made my own model
he is not ampro two 😔
whats it called
its board game model
junglepredator
interesting name
ampro when is ampro 2
2 ampro is when ampro
the game is named jungle
bro what
if ampro is so good then why theres no ampro 2
the one from 2012 was better
i got a virus by zooming in to this pfp
he disappeared in 2022
bro knows ball
and got taken
by the government
elite ball knowledge
Ball took bro to government
@deep adder bro ur cooked
i put apple inside my mouth
i invested all in bitcoin in 2012
Dario born in 2021 💀
10k btc
i wonder how much is that worth now
prolly like 50$
costed me 10$
might cash out tbh
Dario is 5?
craig are u claude user
u were gpt user weeks ago ngl
you were elite gpt glazer
NOO
@echo aurora Don't you find it weird how icefrost, Watermelon and ampro got agent in same time
bro no
we not hackers
3 agents in disguise
😔
Youre gonna disappear 😈
speed pls i need this.
temp dropped to 50 lol
rip
I thought u said temu 💔
its why openai is better tho
pineapple is typing
it doesn't stop until it finishes the task, unlike anthropic
No, when the experiment rollout is expanded it happens at the same time.
pineapple scary edition
what's what?
I do think something is wrong though
i never said i got agent
💀
L thinking
just because i reviewed it
Why?
Because these 3 are masterminds
Agreed, but it isn't related.
BRO IM JUST A CALM USER 🙏🏻
bro's back is down
still funny to this day
We don't have a way to even connect a Discord community member -> Arena account
a y o
Ahhhhhh
I'm gonna explode
Apple nuke incoming
ok
Please don't
bros gonna nuke us
did you know
@shy mason give me iPhone and I spare u
apple i report
Ban
THATS WHAT I SAY
!!
Apple report i
Apple hacks arena season 2
@shy mason pls dont ever get mrbeast hacked
pineapple will have to kill his own fellos
fellow
right @echo aurora
wouldn't it be sad
killing your own cousin that got infected
💔
Noo 😔
yupp had this, you should be able to develop an app (bot) that can connect your discord and arena accounts together
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