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i dont understand whats the point of predicting future
The most expensive models are GPT, Gemini, Opus and they removed all of them to add opus 4.7, they’re expensive there but things like kimi 2.6 are cheap
whats this conversation about 😭
Kimi 2.6 is on par with opus 4.7 and is very cheap with basically no limits so what you’re saying is false
He thinks they will be adding a pay to win
Or subscription base
It’s not going to happen
but this does not negate the fact that they can allow p2w for the smartest models
Hellow, I am new user.
Tell me about Arena
Kimi 2.6 is part of the smartest models, tell me, why would they add p2w for a model that is $0.95 every output
That’s a scam
Which is why they wouldn’t do it
that makes sense
which is why i said that "bro is dreaming in a nightmare"
he really is
Arena is a spot to test out models and give feedback for free and it’s fun
like he needs to chill out
He is just wrong, it’s annoying when people come into here and start claiming arena will go paid because they won’t. Their entire brand is based off of leaderboard charts and FREE but limited use of AI
🤷🏻♂️
There are already so many things out there that are paid but give even more models than arena, it’d literally be a death wish for them
well initially arena was made, for testing purposes and stuff
benchmarks/testing
it wasnt made for mass consumer use
is kimi 2.6 actually smart
It still is and they’re trying to push that it is with these harder limits ykwim
It’s opus level good
like i'm trying it, doesn't seem smarter than glm 5.1
yeah i said initially
GLM 5.1 was never good for me but I mean coding when I say smart idk if that’s what you mean
i mean coding too
My friend, you're living in an illusion that sooner or later there will be so many users that there will be a lot of restrictions. One prompt per day for testing is just a fact. I can't even say that it will become paid. It's just that soon there will be so many limits that it's easier for a user to pay than to receive one prompt per day. And you're trying to prove that it won't become paid. It's just that right now you think this won't happen anytime soon, so draw your own conclusions.
It’s not even a theory 😭
Debates happen all the time on here it’s fine as long as it’s AI related
Please add a debate channel
Ah I see, yea I tested side by side and kimi was much better in my opinion
You can have these debates in here. Just remember that all should be constructive and in respectful way.
Well, it seems like we don't touch on personalities
we are having a heated debate
When Deepseek V4 releases I believe it will be even better than Kimi can’t wait for that
It’s not heated it’s just back and forth
i suppose even cheaper too?
fr
Possibly but it depends, Deepseek is training on better chips and it’s the same size model but they’re also known for being very cheap so it’s likely
still nice tho
I've seen you have different opinions. If this's turning into personal attacks. Then it maybe good to step out and agree to disagree.
we have already stopped
And it’s the best thing ever haha
Because the better the open source model is
The better local LLMs are going to be
Why is Muse-Spark not in the arena?
what sucks are leadeboards
i would really want them to be more detailed
which is why i found different benchmarks/leaderboards
for example this one it is called bridgebench it shows that kimi k2.6 is #1 at debugging thats very impressive
Where is deepseek?
i would have never guessed without it that it is
i dont know
i found the site recently
Deepseek isn’t great right now
Man, the current version of ChatGPT Image V2 sucks a bit, I wish if we can had these three versions (duct tape and others)
it also claims that sonnet 4.6 is the best at ui designing
Mythos already loses to 5.4 pro xhigh
Mythos is comparable to 5.4 pro medium, as public benchmarks show
While 3x as expensive per task & less reliable
I probably wouldnt believe that too much then lmao. Sonnet 4.6 has always been worse at UI design
W stream
"sinkingtoday" 💀
"shiplover" 💀
"Iceyfrank" 🥶
WHY haven't I heard about this
I did see that Anthropic changed the claude code plan to only the max
But they added mythos to it
Thank You
Thanks
My message is directed to the founders or the team responsible for the Arena website. I understand that the platform is free, but unfortunately the current usage limits have become quite frustrating.
We are an agency based in Egypt, and we would really appreciate it if you could introduce official subscription plans instead of the current system. Based on our experience, we’ve compared your results with platforms like Freepik and Higgsfield, and we found that Arena delivers significantly better quality.
Usually everyone says thank you
its not gone, its at full bottom of the models selector
what is the daily limit of GPT image 2 on Arena?
lmfao why
Likely around 8 or 10 because I did a few and ran out but its nto little amount
Artificial Neural Network
lol sneaky
Whats this
cool
claude opus 4.7 chance :3
-_-
but opus models arent available anymore there
Opus appeared I swear.
interesting
Then it's gone
Yupp is gone.
Who even uses opus
What alternative?
@dense sphinx thats what i said..... Means any website like yupp which provide free models
Hi
Im so sad that they shut down 😭
Same 😢
Hey @signal oasis We don't offer a subscription service that'd eliminate the current restrictions. We are developing a new usage system and would encourage you to share feedback about it. You can learn more about it here: #announcements message
Damn are you a bot
pineapple bot detected
No (but maybe I'm programmed to say that so who knows)
If you are a bot the response was pretty good
Imagine if u found my arena champion application good
and I become a champion
Could happen! I normally go through these applications ~once a week
When did you apply?
What if I'm not a bot? Good response?
What happened to gpt image 2? Is it in battle mode again only?
pineapple pls send me a b200 straight to my house through pigeon 🤑
Oh nvm it was hidden
bro when gpt-pineapple 7
and claude-pineapple 4.8
More pineapple missiles falling in the Vegetable Country
(images v2)
And these models are only available in the battle mod.
pinch me
@echo aurora Images v2 absolutely dominated in arena
like it went up so fast than any other image models
Yeah I wasn't seeing it for a moment either. Also, previous chat conversations now title the model Assistant A. Are you seeing the same?
Yeah it's pretty wild
Hello everyone! I am facing infinite generating problem. Is there any way to stop it or any method to export the chat data so I can use in new chat.
Hey @fierce hound can you try the steps outlined in this article: https://help.arena.ai/articles/8691588590-troubleshooting-infinite-generation. I've also heard from a few members that if you: start a new chat, start a generation, go back to the original chat session, the stop button should appear. I havne't seen this first hand so couldn't vouche for it, but it's worth a try.
Is there any way to export that chat /conversation
Sorry to say there is not a feature that enables that.
No it's in direct chat too
Imagine what image 2 high would do
Gojo Goku
Now remember my words ... Now as gpt 2 is available in arena for free..... people will overuse it and ruin it
All Good that Begins, Must End One Day~
@echo aurora I have an AI related question could you help?
Fire away
This is how this world works
I was wondering, Arena uses OpenAI api for image V2 right, there's many more that have the API for images v2, but generation is same for all right? (like chatgpt result and arena generation would be same but different resolution maybe?)
or are results different in different websites like for example it would be different on chatgpt, or is it not like that?
Unfair Dark World
Although i believe openai might be paying for gpt 2 use on arena for Better Elo @magic imp
So arena doesn't have to bear the costs of it
But just assumption
Got the wrong minecraft...
This isn't correct
oh god thats an insane leap
Is just my assumption not truth obviously
So arena is indeed paying for GPT Image 2?
So Arena delete Chat GPT Image 2.0?
Actually let me show you some results
No
Yes
openai might be paying for gpt 2 use on arena for Better Elo
If we did this this would be obviously unethical, and completely ruin the integrity of our leaderboards.
My apologies i Trust you Pineapple
No, it's still in Battle/Direct/Side by Side. However, there was a moment where it wasn't appearing. If you hard refresh the site the should see it there now.
I hope we don't loss it in direct chat tho
I hope too
No need to apologize. It's okay.
Appreciated and Ty!
Is better to loss some then falling like yupp ai
why does one request from grok 4.20 search hit the token limit
can't follow up a thanks to elon overlord because its genuinely such a good search model
@echo aurora yo? you taking over los santos now??
THIS IS SOMETHING UNIMAGINABLE. CLAUDE OPUS 4.7 THIS IS THE MEGA AI IN THE WORLD. LMarena, YOU ARE SIMPLY THE BEST, THERE ARE NO PEOPLE IN THE WORLD WHO GIVE SUCH STRONG AI WITHOUT CUT-OFFS AS OTHERS DO. THANK YOU SO MUCH
what happened to your pfp
bro looks like a well[
Love to see it
well im not saying
It's my website 😔
Is it battle u are using
Its likely a stealth model if it keeps saying it failed
so many..
Yup
bro looks like a well i cant say that here
Let me send a Nuke Grinder
or else the mods would kill me
after the generation u can see it
fah
NOO
Nope, because it keeps failing, once I select the better one it will show though
Kk
How about a two
is this normal? @echo aurora
Yea because the models so big
yep @echo aurora hacked minecraft
what the hell
oh no
Get a better Wife
y he mad tho 🎉
idk
@sterile tartan ur cooked
Oh No.
Pineapple u have a duty, reply to all images that have u
Sorry I never answered this! My understanding (note I'm hedging here as I'm not super confident about this answer) But different providers may have different endpoints so there could be some slight variations.
And better explain why u took over los santos
Kk
does anyone have pineapples pfp
you taking over los santos now??
Just los santos?
actually speaking of his pfp
@echo aurora what was the context behind your pfp
WHY pineapple
and.. who made the pfp?
Oh no, you took over minecraft too.
Yeah here is the base image:
ty ty
Any news on these?
wow
@echo aurora
idk why i pinged you LMAO
There is some lore behind it. At my previous job I couldn't deside on a pfp, so a coworker made me one with Google Slides. No clue why pineapple, but loved it immediately and it stuck.
Pineapple missile incoming
oh crap the pfp was made on google slides??
Catluv gets the credit for that one.
Lol yup
NOOO PINEAPPLE
Lol 
@echo aurora would this be considered gore for you
Daym
RIP
I would like some Pineapple Juice
We are looking into this btw. We've seen a few reports. Any chance you can share the prompt so I can try to replicate this?
Gpt image 2 is so crushingly revolutionary
GPT Mogs All
dude why can i not send images
Where cxan I throw a suggestion out?
@sterile tartan ur cooked, u challenged him and he came.
@echo aurora Top pineapple aura moment
where do you LIVE Bro
🙏
The Movie Zone
#1372230675914031105 is the best place for that. I'd recommend scanning the existing posts and contribute there.
Im Not Afraid
Alright thank you
Jk I live in Pineapple ST
@gptimage2 make this image be Pineapple.
now wait for gpt 6 spud hehehaha
It will suck lmao
cope, claude is dead
Its not
BM entered the chat
Mythos will crush spud no effort
Are you BM
O hell nah
I love my neighborhood @echo aurora
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V2.5?????
Yeah
where can I generate and How please ?
i feel brainrotted as FUH right now
Grok died
These mimo models suck lmao
THATS THE PROMPT??
Lmao
🙏
yeah as bad as calude
Add grok when
Never
Claude actually has decent humour.
Insane claim but alright
Took me a while to recognise you.
Yeah it was very funny to not release mythos and nerf quotas of all plans
Atleast you recognised
Guys stop flaming Claude its just better than gpt lmao
what
BRO WHAT
🤣
i mean
WHY IS THE PERSON ON OPUS
THAT USES LIKE so much token or whatever the hell
i dont know man
i stopped using claude a logn time ago
Cuz opus smart.
But not affordable
Fr. Those rate limits be atrocious.
anthro cant even generate images lmao
Maybe even Perplexity is better then Claude at this point
anyways offtopic but heres pineapple as an anime girl
Lmao
ok that took like 2 seconds WHAT is happening
@echo aurora holy moggers
😭
for some reason
sometimes the thought process for claude was just cheeseburger for me and idk why
Fr
son im crine 😭
@surreal zephyr
"generated by gpt"
dude i dont even know on which side i should be
🙏
idk if i should be on claude side or gpt side
im SO confused
closedspud vs grokcist
and then u pay 39399399292828288$
GPT 5.5 will Mog All
Gpt spud will be ass mark my words
bro doesnt realise its claude thats hyped not gpt
this guy deadass looks like a meme bro oh my days
5.4 pro already beats mythos
Atleast it will have better rate limits
Even 5.4 wins by rate limits
WHAT Is this beef bro
bro u literally generated anime pineapple girl images 💀
so what
.. linux?
Not hot enough
Oops
insane response
But then you realize
Deepseek
fair lol
im gonnabe on.. qwens side! even tho they removed the free quota thing from qwen code which i kinda think is bullsht behaviour
but whatever i gues
Qwen Mogs All
not all but.. sure
Okay. I can agree with that as someone who daily drives qwen.
It does among the free tier options I believe.
Or perhaps Qwen Drives You
oh yeah thats true
Deepseek V4 will Mog All
Check dms @sterile tartan
Before end of this month
Bro I need ai girlfriend from open ai.
Why did they drop it.
They were gonna work on some nsfw mode.
wth they nerfed gpt image 2
say wallahi bro
your nothing but a hound dog from crying all the time
its rng whether you get high qual or low qual
nah
whatever it deems the difficulty
same fr
unlimited
sometimes it does worse
wdym
you can choose
it has alt too
its gpt image 2
W for Webism
yeah but it cant make qr code
its gpt image 2 and you can choose quality
🥀
Which uses their original API @fringe snow
🇼
uh just use a qr code generator
Who tf is m product
obv ai cant
I meant ampro
websim unbanned a artist that drew innapropriate art of a child btw
its your homie
bruh it can sometimes
Well That's Fd Up
like deadass, ive been there when they unbanned the artist
He means the bot
not the server
oh
Shouldn't been there
fahh the server
good
i dont want qr code gen i want my clanker to do better
Yeah The Bot is W
!!!
🇼
damn no pear ig 🙏
ok bro the usage limit is annoying but atleast i dont lie
gemini good for ui
the only reason i dont like it is because it has dementia and like.. keeps repeating bs
cars, tanks, ui, vehicles, ect
guy
5.4 pro xhigh solos
the reason i switched from gpt to claude is because gpt lied about a channel having copyright free content and i freaking got copyrighted
atleast claude doesnt freaking gets me copyrighter
10iq
youtube copyright system is abusable
big boy
it was from the big channel
i got copyrighter
not fake one
so?
so gpt is a lier
Skill Issue
it doesnt tell the truth
Message Webism
atleast claude tells me the truth
Tuff in claude?
Da truth:
(real pic btw)
ts is the same pic
yes
reposted
yes
yeah but
also i did ask claude SONNET this once and it responded correctly
but i asked SONNET and it responded correctly how the ** would opus respond wrong
Well ask opus
rest in peace
??
because you asked it to do it
to walk
fan boys
sam altman fan boys
chatgpt brings you to your fall
exactly what it did with me
never more
movie ahh
omfg set thinking to heavy
exactly the probklem
you dont set the thinking on opus
I didnt even need it to set to thinking
and be saying ohh claude is ass
BECAUSE IT DEFAULTS TO MAX???
no wonder its dumb
😭
IT DOESNT
ampro look
IT DOES
you guys are only fanboys because its cheaper
LITERALLY SAYS EXTENDED-THINKING
BRADAR DELETE THIS BEFORE PINEAPPLE SEES
he already saw the earlier version i made btw
you realise opus is trained on that task
did your claude release earlier
i know
but you cant say
that chatgpt is better
they both are stupid
but atleast claude answers with the truth
no gpt passes both with thinking
EVERY ai is good in their own way
opus parrots wrong response
like damn this beef sucks 🙏 '
like im sorry but genuinely
prove it
ATLEAST CLAUDE ACCEPTS THE DEFEAT
lmao
ATLEAST CHATGPT FAN BOYS DOESNT CRY
gpt 5.3 codex vs opus 4.6 waterbench same prompt
lol
prove it
i think im wrong
he aint online
@gpt Make the man in the middle be pineapple.
proved my point of honesty
mimo best
we agree on that one
"to drive would be absurd" 😭
pineapple
my hometown
if you send all of the images we made with gpt image 2 about pineapple to random people, people might think pineapple is the next jesus
he's not?
agree
LOL
this reminds me of that one image trump made
hold on ill try to find it
reminds me of tibo
yes
that AI image
he made
depicting himself
this image
yeah
what does extended do btw
i do agree
its like normal mode
im not gonna walk shitted
but its naemed that
BATHROOM IS AT HOME
WHY WOULD YOU GET YOUR CAR DIRTY
WHO EVEN WASHES THEIR AHH AT GAS STATION
?? what
he thinks we alreaty did it
❌
so the car wash
exactly
to wash my ass for me
i ate gork
chatgpt said that
Handheld picture taken from a balcony in night, Zoomed into sky, we see a UFO with lights far in the sky, noticeable.
try it
fr
gonna be epik
100% verified by triple t
test time
triple T boy
grabs chatgpt by the throat
"YOU ¨¨¨¨ AI GIVE ME HONESTY ANSWERS
"
"NO"
and triple t decides to eat pineapple
ok but mines a pineapple
hm
pineapple becomes barbeque
triple t is shocked
barbeque now decides to kill gpt image 2 forever
barbeque calls the ambulance
because triple t forgot to feed claude
claude is dying of hunger
claude is taken to the hospital
grok appears
grabs a bazoocka
and explodes claude and chatgpt
gemini invokes claude from heaven
and triple t invokes chatgpt from hell
TUFF ALERT!!!
watermelon i unblocked you. my agent told that i should unblock you so i did
okok
ty
I will not call u a pentester dw
it's fine i dont care
what made me more mad is that you were involved in this
😡
(jk)
Blockers will automatically become anthropic fem and fanboys
Sry
apology accepted 👍🏻
I plead bm as not guilty.
friendship returned
@surreal zephyr this u?
This gpt 2?
also ampro what u doing in punkteam 💔
tuff 2016 ahh pfp
Np
holy moly
name leak
mythos
WOW
bro broke out of a isolated container and got internet acess
not tuff
how the heck is that not good
yeah so are u an anthropic dev
cuz theyre gatekeeping it
LMAO
u ain't getting it
💀
w/l ?
Sure is green alright
agi
Best image so far.
green
green
💀
son im crine bro got outside canvas
?
green
says sam littleboy
bro hacked itself
green
green
little boy
I think Dario doesn't too
why does dario look like that tho
bro is lagging
crazy
sam looks way better
edited image
FRRR
lemme send original
still better wth
can your dario not mog
he still has big ahh forehead
also what do apperance have to do with ai models
old dario peak
i dont care if dario amodei looks like that if the ai models are great
exactly
but a spud beats it
what the
unfortunately
bro your still 6 years old
you cant even work
why does he looks way better here
thats the young him
fr
that's the young him
he changed after claude
💔
should've atleast stayed fit
agree
umm
that literally the worst thing a grown man can do
thats different
he did that
how is it different
for the money
simple
moneyu
it doesnt matter what age u are
see now i djdnt even mention his name LOL
more donations from children using their parents credit card
ur the kid here
money
bro
myb
kid is my ass
u mentioned a random guy outta nowhere
i saw that guy on instagram reels at the gif sectiom
yeah yeah
theres no kreekcraft in gifs
yes
unless u search it
so u switched from seeing it yourself to someone else sending it
your prob a girl wanting to marry sam altman
LMAO
💀
Ragebait is CRAZY.
ampro is not a mod
o7
okay then im waiting for his response
Hey guys, I think the chat is getting off topic. I kindly ask you to stay on AI topics and avoid personal attacks. Thank you.
thank you
alright np
@surreal zephyr i ran out of ideas
before images v2 dropped I had so many
now I forgot
😭
Not fair man...
sad
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
same
100%
like is gpt's limits way durable?
yes
Yes
Its like 100x and im not even joking
Lol
whats the rip coffee I js noticed that on claudes side 😭 😭 😭
image V2 funny
🥀
Sending this to openai server
Sentry mode 🤯
Is that real or images v2
I can't tell the difference anymore 💔
Me neither bro its too good
😭
ts you
😁
GPT Image 2 vs Nano Banana vs Grok Imagine vs Kling Image vs Seedream vs Sigma Pineapple 🍍 Image
5
9
1
GPT image 2
Should chinese models stop distilling from claude
5
7
2
no
Sigma pineapple pro best image model ever
why the whole mod gang online 🙏
Few new mods added 
oh crap since when?? 🙏
pineapple look at this
Since there has been too much violence towards pineapples
Prompt?
did this with gpt img 2
gpt image 2
ew
I cant tell if this is good or not
I kinda forgot it.. But here ima try to recreate the prompt
Handheld selfie of Sam Altman sitting in balcony, behind him is openai projected into the sky, and a snapchat text "lmao we did it"
it is
yay!
why is claude opus 4.7 not avaliable in chat
one word: costs
@echo aurora ,Pineapple!!
In Pineapple St, I see a weird vegetables truck that looks evil, I think they're gonna attack us anytime soon
Should I launch the Pineapple Nuke to Vegetable Country
opus 4.7 search when... im waiting...and waiting..
soon but prob battle obv