general

[indigo knoll]

sadly too censored

[leaden egret]

yeah but it's still cool to mess with

[vagrant temple]

Gpt 2 or gemini pro?

[compact flame]

I think it's trying to represent the laughing guy

[frank junco]

[loud herald]

Pretty sure it covers profanity

[stray aspen]

Six seven

[stray aspen]

Gpt image 2

[leaden egret]

67?

[random flax]

Why the double chin 😭

[leaden egret]

y not i didnt prompt it too do that

[compact flame]

I asked chatgpt why I'm broke

Dignity not found

I guess bro spent his last money on chatgpt pro

[random flax]

im not the original creator of the prompt

[compact flame]

I'm talking about the image meme

[indigo knoll]

we are so cooked

[graceful talon]

holy

yeah bruh

[rigid pasture]

@echo aurora

[stray epoch]

bud got hacked

[keen beacon]

W gpt image 2

[leaden egret]

damnn

[frank junco]

okay yeah the editing is bad

I asked it to put something in a manga style and it just made the image black and white

[frank junco]

why is mine so bad

[leaden egret]

its pretty good at fixing lighting in images too

[compact flame]

5 armed sukuna is crazy

[frank junco]

binding vow

[storm dust]

wow

gpt 2 image's stats are crazy

thats a big leap

[narrow sigil]

gpt 2 image is very good

[obsidian cargo]

you can use it on arena right now

[hazy brook]

gpt image 2 stats are indeed so insane!!

[narrow sigil]

it's free

[hazy brook]

wow

[obsidian cargo]

in direct mode

I don't like the default style though it's kinda messy

[narrow sigil]

arena just has the medium version

[storm dust]

people are genuinely happy about gpt 2 image

im impressed

[narrow sigil]

gpt 2 image is better than gemini with image editing, it's keep the original image elements and don't hallucinate

[storm dust]

nice

[pastel mesa]

Guys agent mode got removed?

[obsidian cargo]

It's good but I really prefer the older style it had. That overrendered style just looks kinda gross.

[storm dust]

imma check creations

[pastel mesa]

Guys do Yall have agent mode?

[keen beacon]

wdym

[narrow sigil]

arena don't have an agent mode, i think

[pastel mesa]

yesterday there was a mode called Agent mode

[narrow sigil]

i never saw it

[pastel mesa]

It got removed in 1 Day

I thought you knew that

[keen beacon]

So they are testing this feature on a limited number of arena users

This means it will be available for everyone soon

[narrow sigil]

ugh, gpt image 2 limit is so small

[keen beacon]

fr

[narrow sigil]

i have to wait again

i wish the limit was bigger, gpt 1.5 has bigger limit

[pastel mesa]

at least you know that it costs 0.10 per photo and you use it for free

[narrow sigil]

yeah, at least it's free

[pastel mesa]

Is like 3k every 30s because everyone want to try gpt image 2

[cedar citrus]

where is the api in openrouter

[pastel mesa]

Search openrouter api key

[cedar citrus]

bro

i mean the gpt image 2 model

[pastel mesa]

Idk

I use chat model

[narrow sigil]

why are you asking for openrouter in arena?

[pastel mesa]

Because we are tech of Ai api

[narrow sigil]

makes sense

[pastel mesa]

at least I'm the one who created an Ai of mine

[narrow sigil]

gpt image 2 is good with text to image?

[pastel mesa]

Yea but you need a good prompt

[narrow sigil]

i prefer image editing, then it's fine

[inner relic]

anime boy

one flaw, If you look at his hands

fingers

lol

[narrow sigil]

yeah, it happens

lol

[pastel mesa]

Guys possible Ai coming soon

[keen beacon]

Hello everyone, I think we’re all beyond fed up with Arena AI at this point.
It’s clearly going downhill — getting dumber and straight-up misleading people. They’re not bringing Opus back, the bugs keep getting worse and never get fixed, and instead they keep shoving in these useless models when all anyone actually wants is Opus.
I’m seriously sick of all this crap. Honestly, they should just shut the whole thing down already.
I know a lot of you feel the same way. If you’re interested, I can recommend a site where you can use Opus for free — up to 4 times a day. It’s limited, but still way better than dealing with this garbage.

[keen beacon]

you getting dumber and dumber

[pastel mesa]

No they will not shut it down

[inner relic]

who pinged me

[pastel mesa]

What?

Ur moderator?

[inner relic]

no

just curious

[inner relic]

it's you?

[keen beacon]

who pinged u

[inner relic]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-dog-dog-loading-dog-confuse-corgi-wide-corgi-gif-5677220482674247561

[keen beacon]

wdym

[pastel mesa]

Idk i tagged moderator

unless you are a moderator

[keen beacon]

u are moderator

[pastel mesa]

And WHO DELETED MY TEXT

[inner relic]

yeah bro pineapple is ragebaiting

[keen beacon]

stop ragebait please

[pastel mesa]

NOW YOU'VE MADE ME CRAVING PINEAPPLE JUICE

[keen beacon]

pineapple rate my new avatar please

[echo aurora]

Really sorry to hear you're upset. If you don't want to use Arena anymore that's your decision to make. Hopefully, we've helped you discover some new models along the way.

[grand raft]

gpt image 2 is considered the goat

[inner relic]

gpt image 2 IS GOAT

GOAT

[keen beacon]

No, you should have said get out of here and ban him

[pastel mesa]

Pineapple This in my model

[pastel mesa]

What do you think

[inner relic]

It looks cool

[stray aspen]

Six seven

[echo aurora]

Oh?

Got an API?

[grand raft]

it can understand everything

[pastel mesa]

It's ready to go online

But the servers are not so active

[keen beacon]

AI model that can play flappybird?

[inner relic]

can you show image of your pfp

[pastel mesa]

Yea we are working on keyboard input

[keen beacon]

nice

[pastel mesa]

Soon i need to publish it on huggings faces so i get one

[keen beacon]

How many days did it take to create?

[pastel mesa]

It's a very simple model

[pastel mesa]

3 days

[keen beacon]

Can this AI make me a pizza?

[cloud zinc]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-21/anthropic-s-mythos-model-is-being-accessed-by-unauthorized-users?srnd=homepage-europe

wow

[keen beacon]

lol

[cloud zinc]

its happening

[keen beacon]

but how

[pastel mesa]

Kinda yea

We need to have an arm and give each finger movement input

But is over budget

[hollow ivy]

-# bump

[keen beacon]

can i be as investor of this AI

[pastel mesa]

Yes

[keen beacon]

how much money do you need

[echo aurora]

Can I what? Sry not following

[echo aurora]

Let us know when you do!

[pastel mesa]

I need a new huggins face acc i got wrong my email and I put a onother person one and now it ask me to verify it and I can't delete the wrong email

So i need a third acc

[inner relic]

pineapple

discord pfp

nvm i found

[hollow ivy]

how much can you spare?

[echo aurora]

That's not fun

[faint willow]

bro oh

my

god.....

I CANT SEND IMAGES

I NEED TO SEND THIS

NO AI

HAS EVER DONE THIS

[keen beacon]

0.3 dollars

[hollow ivy]

yay
lol

[pastel mesa]

in fact it is stressful

[hollow ivy]

yeah, i'm a poor man, too

[keen beacon]

pineapple pls add claude mythos in arena

Why did some people get access and we didn't?

[storm dust]

O_O

[storm dust]

ok thats bad..

[hollow ivy]

sigh we peasants might have to wait, until we have reached a post-scarcity utopia

which might happen in 20-30 years?

[keen beacon]

I think they hacked it to vibecode with this model

[hollow ivy]

i wonder, what Mythos5 vibecoded for them..

[keen beacon]

Chat Gpt 67

[hollow ivy]

yes

probably their own AI, smart move

[keen beacon]

yeah

[hollow ivy]

or exfiltrate the weights of its own model (CM5-core)

10T parameters, right?

[faint willow]

gg

[frank junco]

they havent trained it on the new model yet

[hollow ivy]

so, which AI model is the third-best in roleplaying, after Claude and Gemini?

GPT, Grok, Muse Spark or a chinese model?

[inner relic]

Claude mythos

i am using claude mythos

[hollow ivy]

we need 100% proof

[indigo knoll]

Generated by GPT image 2 right?

[hollow ivy]

let it solve the famous Elevator problem (composed by Discover AI YT channel)

[cloud zinc]

how

[hollow ivy]

last shown in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdakyHWTkRk

[keen beacon]

YAAAY

IM TOO HAVE

[hollow ivy]

I think the real CM5 is intelligent enough, to reconstruct the actual prompt for that Elevator challenge, just using the publically available data (all videos of Discover AI channel).

That is the real challenge, reconstructing the prompt. If an AI can do that it has proven real intelligence

[keen beacon]

nice

[hollow ivy]

Cachorro, do you think, CM5 could pull off that feat?

[hollow ivy]

it's a living legend already, lol

[keen beacon]

wth collaboration??

[wicked fox]

Yeah

[shrewd citrus]

I can lowkey imagine a collab

[faint willow]

When you cant tell that this is ai until you look deep enough then that's how you know WE are doomed

[shrewd citrus]

but more like for different things

[keen beacon]

YOOOOO

WW

[shrewd citrus]

so like idk image 2 + Claude opus

[faint willow]

I can tell its ai from the background

the texture is off

[thorn hatch]

hello i'm new with arena we can use without tokken ?

[shrewd citrus]

like email?

[shrewd citrus]

surely they can just use the transcripts from the video

like a simple agent can do that

[hollow ivy]

the problem is, the tuber never told the full prompt anywhere (afaik)

you had to infer it, from indirect info

[still musk]

Secret episode of "Family Guy"

[inner relic]

ok here's proof

[inner relic]

@hollow ivy

[hollow ivy]

no, the task was completely different -> fail

you have not CM5

but, nice try ^^

at least, watch a vid of Discover AI channel, to see what he actually asks the AI to do (although he never gives the prompt, he shows some results of the AI, which gives you hints, what the challenge/task/puzzle might be about)

[still musk]

GAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

[inner relic]

PFPFASORK

okay it's gpt 2 image

But that got your attention

so i win

[cloud zinc]

doesnt look like family guy

[hollow ivy]

we both win, as we both had a good time :)

because AI is a fascinating topic

and i like riddles

[rich crest]

hey is there some one who know how to make great landing pages in ai because all of my prompts are like candy cartoon etc clearly looks like ai

[hollow ivy]

i would wait for GPT-5.5 come out, and/or Grok and/or Gemini (next month)

i heard Grok-4.3 (beta) already is out

[rich crest]

u talking about lmarena or where u use them ?

[hollow ivy]

oh, i'm unsure if they are already in arena, under a secret codename

(only in battlemode, if)

[rich crest]

okay thank u so much,u know maybe where i can get prompts for that or smth ?

[hollow ivy]

i would ask the model for their exact specs

and if they refuse to give that info, i would use roleplay-technique:
ask the model, what you think it is, and demand that it tries to get it right

(specs: vendor (lab), official name, internal codename, version, size, parameter-count, context-size, knowledge cut-off date, release date, internal/current date, thinking mode on/off, etc)

[formal delta]

Can’t login to my account... when I press login nothing happens

[hollow ivy]

you could try:

• delete cookies
• use another browser
• try using it without logging in and see if that works (narrowing down the problem)
• deactivate your VPN
• restart router

[rough ravine]

Hi! Sorry for bothering you.
I'd like to ask you something.
A few days ago, I was using Claude 4-5 and saw virtually no limits (direct mode), only 4-6.
But today 4-5 disappeared, and 4-6 is blocked after almost three requests.
How do the limits work?
Are there any tricks?

[formal delta]

It might be because of the VPN, but the issue is that I can’t access the website without it, im currently in China...

[hollow ivy]

they (the arena team) said, they want to change the mode, to long-term make all models available again (planning a new usage-based system or so)

[hollow ivy]

maybe you could change the VPN? eg. using TOR-browser?

[rough ravine]

Got it, thanks! So this was just an announcement? They haven't provided any specifics yet?

[hollow ivy]

afaik, they are still working on it, yeah

(i'm just a normal user, no mod/guide, etc)

[echo aurora]

Hey @rough ravine this is the announcement for the removal of the models: #announcements message & this is the announcement for the new usage system we have planned incase you have some feedback you'd like to share about it: #announcements message

[formal delta]

I tried, still not working idk, nothing happens when I click the login button (Continue with Google)

[rough ravine]

Oh, thank you so much! I think I missed that!

[echo aurora]

No problem! We put out a lot of announcements so that makes sense. Don't hesitate to ping me directly if you have any questions!

[echo aurora]

Hey @formal delta sounds like you're getting the login issue where you go to login, and you're route back to the home page, but still not logged in?

[formal delta]

It doesn’t me route me anywhere it stays as it is, it’s like the button's bugged

[echo aurora]

Is the login button just not responsive? Seeing the same across different browsers?

[sullen sable]

👍

[formal delta]

Yes, the button isn’t responsive, i'm using Brave as my default browser it doesn’t work on it. (I've just tried Edge tho, and it routed me to the Google Sign-In page)

[hollow ivy]

have you tried with these browsers, too?

• Firefox, Waterfox, Palemoon, LibreWolf or IceWeasel
• Safari
• Opera
• Mullvad
• Chrome, Chromium, Vivaldi, Iridium or SRware_Iron
• LadyBird (pre-alpha/WIP)
• Helium (also based on Chromium)

[vale quest]

Arena.ai only uses Google for signin as far as I know

[formal delta]

It works on Chrome and Opera too... that’s weird

[wicked talon]

They use Google analytics

[wicked talon]

Adblockers can prevent it.

Along with no 3rd party cookies.

[formal delta]

But I have the Shields DOWN for arena.ai?

[echo aurora]

Yeah I'd check if there are some extensions that could be contributing to this. Overall, I have seen the brave browser struggling a bit with Arena.

[formal delta]

And I have no Adblockers

[vale quest]

Ye and

[formal delta]

Now it’s working after disabling all the extensions

[rigid pasture]

Just a normal day in Recife

[storm dust]

hell nah

i would have thought thats gta 5

[median tapir]

Why arena has limited gpt image 2??

[polar horizon]

is there ANY way i can delete a message i sent to a chatbot

[echo aurora]

We have limitations in place for sustainability purposes. Providing free access to AI can get expensive.

[polar horizon]

like just the previous one

[echo aurora]

As in just one prompt in a chat session, but not the full chat? No sorry to say there isn't an edit/branching feature.

[polar horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[echo aurora]

It's understandable why these features would be really nice to have, so it could happen one day.

[polar horizon]

how hard would it be to incorporate

im mad ash i fcked up my chat

[echo aurora]

I'm not sure about the specifics, but with Arena there is going to be some complexity added with votes and how something like Battle/Side by Side would work. I'm sure there are some creative solutions we'd land on.

[ivory schooner]

Good news. Since we already have one of the GPT-image-2 models, the medium version

has anyone seen the high version in Battle Mode?

[stray aspen]

gpt image 2 is so fun

[glacial moon]

Hi where is the video option?

[echo sinew]

Hello! Video Arena is currently accessible only through: https://arena.ai/video. More information on how to use Video Arena can be found in this article.

[cursive cape]

Grok 😭

[storm dust]

💀 classic grok

peako it's fine dont worry

thats literally your scanner

you do your thing and i will do mine

[cursive cape]

Do you think it would be cool to create my own AI in HTML? It sounds stupid, but I'm just bored.

[urban herald]

id like to see u optimise it

[cursive cape]

Yeah, that's what I meant. It sounds weird, but the idea is to program it with phrases it can respond to, or something like that. I don't know what it'll look like yet, but I won't dwell on it too much, I'm just curious

[urban herald]

or a rng based neural category based network

in html or javascript html

[cursive cape]

Do you know how to install the python library???

[urban herald]

for html?

[cursive cape]

I don't understand this. I just do it in HTML

[urban herald]

run pip3 or pip

and then install idk

html ig

[cursive cape]

Wow

Look, I was able to roughly demonstrate how it works. I'm teaching him phrases he can respond to, and I can show him what the website for his training looks like; it's pure HTML

some kind of training

then you can export your AI

[west ore]

the GPT 2 image model is erroring out on some generations and i hope it get's fixed (i know it was jsut added but there's some errors that need to be fixed)

[cursive cape]

Try starting a new chat, and if your question contains insults or something indecent, he won't answer, I checked.

[west ore]

i don't put insults it happens on some Copyrighted IP

[sonic wigeon]

guys is gpt image 2 good

[sonic wigeon]

nice

[cursive cape]

yay

[sonic wigeon]

why medium?

does a high or low exist

[cursive cape]

the app so you can teach him phrases and answers yourself

[sullen sable]

😁

I'm listening to dogs barking in spotify

[radiant heron]

how good is new gpt image model

[sullen sable]

Good

[radiant heron]

is it really 200 points above

cuz thats bonkers

[sullen sable]

Have u tried it?

[radiant heron]

no

trying it rn

[sullen sable]

alright alr

Lemme know what u think

[radiant heron]

actually yeah just tried it and clearly better than at least gemini

[sullen sable]

yea, it's nice at least

[dense sphinx]

Greetings everyone

[dense sphinx]

What is that?

[cursive cape]

I don't know how to explain it, it's like an AI in HTML that I train through another HTML site created by the AI ​​and then export to HTML as well

[tranquil marsh]

is arena not working for anyone else rn?

[simple ocean]

e

[light sleet]

Images v2

It's like someone really took a photo of the Burj Khalifa

From their phone

[remote dove]

I will predict that claude opus models are coming back in May 10th

[remote dove]

In direct

[remote dove]

What ai is fhat

That

@light sleet

[remote dove]

Mines working

The only thing that isn't working for me is the fact claude opus models won't be in direct no more

[tranquil marsh]

im trying direct with the new gpt image 2

[remote dove]

You idiot

Out of all the AI you could of chosen

[tranquil marsh]

what bruh

[remote dove]

Chatgpt is the worst in the world
At least not at math,coding,images but why chatgpt???

[tranquil marsh]

its the best image model rn

[remote dove]

Let me check this rigged leaderboard

[tranquil marsh]

its best by far

[remote dove]

Well I found this video on #leaderboards

It's kinda odd though

It looks like it was generated by ai though

It seems pretty cool

You wanna see it

[tranquil marsh]

sure

[remote dove]

It was generated by Dumbstupid Ai

[tranquil marsh]

i pay for claude btw i know chatgpt is worse

[remote dove]

Looks so realistic

[tranquil marsh]

did AI make that?

[remote dove]

Yeah

[tranquil marsh]

the code for the game?

[remote dove]

I don't got the code for the game

I think it was based off roblox or something

[loud herald]

Anyone who saw the elephant model on openrouter, turns out it was ling 2.6 and it clearly is incredibly stupid lmao.

Called it on being a chinese model though

[loud herald]

Whats this?:

[remote dove]

Yeah I think Dumbstupid model is better

[tranquil marsh]

lmao

[remote dove]

Like look at this video

It's so cool

[tranquil marsh]

what is dumbstupid model bro

[golden horizon]

image2 is too exaggerate much better than nano banana🤩 🤩

[sullen sable]

🐦‍🔥

[remote dove]

Mike Snicker Pipits

[tranquil marsh]

link me it

[remote dove]

Dm's

If anyone else wants the Dumbstupid model, just dm me

It's so good

[tranquil marsh]

i can vouch

[loud herald]

What is it

[remote dove]

@loud herald

Dm

I will show you

Anyone else(

?

[median tapir]

Alternative arena for using gpt 2 images??

Anyone knows ?

[remote dove]

@median tapir

[median tapir]

At least unlimited

[remote dove]

Just use the mikesnickerpipits model

[median tapir]

New ?

[remote dove]

Also known as Dumbstupid model

[remote dove]

Yes

[median tapir]

Or old model released

[remote dove]

It's new

[median tapir]

How can I access?

[river rover]

lol

[remote dove]

Just go in the website I'm gonna show you on dm

[median tapir]

Ok

[remote dove]

What a waste.

[fiery gull]

Someone can explain this for me? How kimi 2.6 is better that opus 4.6 if they release before that 4.7?

[loud herald]

??

I am so confused by what was just said

[fiery gull]

He's solving problems that opus 4.6 isn't getting

[loud herald]

Its distilled from models more than 4.6 so thats why

Thats whats so good about the chinese and open source models

[fiery gull]

Why people say that Chinese models are just distillation of opus

[loud herald]

Because majority of them are lol

But its not just opus 4.6

Or opus in general

Its many other models

[fiery gull]

Dude in fact I think everyone copies everyone

Even Claude

[loud herald]

Well yea, them having a 10T parameter model do you know how much you can fit in there?

They likely have distills from everything ever

Every dataset ever

In that 10T parameter model

You can fit that magnitude in it

But the reason claude is always so good

Is because they make their own datasets too

[fiery gull]

Yep, anxious to see my qwen3.6 2b Claude distill in my mobile

[loud herald]

And its very diverse, has to be

[loud herald]

I wanna put an AI on my phone, I think it'd be really cool

[fiery gull]

My brother use llm in mobile since 2023

[remote dove]

Because claude opus was a bit on su...

[loud herald]

Nah I'd want a more recent one

[loud herald]

Ahhh I see

[fiery gull]

Bruh I'll sleep

[fiery gull]

Really stopping to think, maybe kimi doesn't have the locks of opus 4.6, so he can be smarter

[loud herald]

Chinese models always have very low guardrails which will indeed make the model smarter and hallucinate less

This happened a bit ago, anthropic is by far the greediest company in AI currently

[cursive cape]

Where 😭

[narrow sigil]

I'm getting errors with gpt image 2

[thick pawn]

Same. Only just stared to

[narrow sigil]

It was working fine, now I'm getting "Something went wrong with this response, please try again." error everytime

[thick pawn]

Yup, straight away with every prompt

[narrow sigil]

I reported this as a bug

[wicked talon]

Chinese ai will dominate in a few years

Qwen is slowly creeping up the leaderboard

[short sluice]

Why did gpt image 2 get put at the bottom now

I thought it was gone

Yeah because Taiwan

[loud herald]

Not a few years, a few months lol. Chinese AI is legit barely 1 generation behind the best models

And the reason

Is because the US had the head start

Started AI stuff like this after the US

Deepseek is at this point 2 generations behind

[narrow sigil]

Good question

[loud herald]

Not really when you start a year or two late to the party lmao

Okay so? Thats my point

[narrow sigil]

gpt 2 image two is not working, ugh

[loud herald]

What? no they arent and they have plenty of compute, they just optimize rather than ruin their entire electricity bill and pockets

They absolutely will

[thick pawn]

Yea true, I just noticed that. I thought it had been removed also

[loud herald]

Like I said they started 2 years late, not a lot of time lmao

You dont need a blackwell or newer, deepseek has their own chips that perform as good or better have you not seen it

[toxic verge]

So what are you implying?

[loud herald]

The chinese chips

Are absolutely evolving at a rapid rate

You seem to be coping or just in denial

Chinese models will always be a better outcome then an American Model

[toxic verge]

They’re just gonna be more realistic with the price for the average consumer

[loud herald]

Because Chinese models 90% of the time are open source

[toxic verge]

They won’t be forever though

[loud herald]

They're already moving to US prices in china but even still that same model is open source lol

[toxic verge]

Yeah, but let’s just say they win the AI market war

They wouldn’t need to do open source anymore

[loud herald]

Sure bro, this aint a race, its just release a model and whoever is better is better

[toxic verge]

They just make new versions that are close sourced and not update the older open source

[loud herald]

Huawei Ascend 950PR

[loud herald]

They wont need to by the time they "win" because local LLMs will be just as good

LOL I would never, I'm just being realistic here

[rancid oxide]

Gpt image 2 is removed in arena bring it back

[loud herald]

They didn't smuggle, NVIDIA just couldnt sell past a certain point and they themselves didnt want to miss out on the giant chinese market so they still sell to Chinese Companies

Absolutely not

[toxic verge]

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/deepseeks-v4-model-will-run-huawei-chips-information-reports-2026-04-03/

[grand raft]

Where is GPT IMAGE 2 on arena

[loud herald]

Indeed

And at the end of the day

[rancid oxide]

They removed gpt image 2

Permanent (jk)

[loud herald]

The chips dont matter, that only effects the speed of training and speed performance. What matters is how the model is trained

[toxic verge]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/china-doubles-ai-for-science-compute-in-2-months-without-us-chips/ar-AA2190Gf

[loud herald]

I literally already said there was and explained what happened after if you actually read it

[rancid oxide]

Gpt image 2 is missing

[grand raft]

Oh nvm it was from the last rank

[toxic verge]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ai-boom-accelerates-chinas-chip-industry-growth-demand-strains-supply-chain-2026-03-25/

[loud herald]

Kimi 2.6 is on par with 4.7, kimi being a chinese model, GLM 5.1 is better for long term tasks and agentic workflow than opus, and I am comparing them to opus because opus realistically is the best model publicly at the moment

[fallow shoal]

чзх

[cursive cape]

не пиши на русском. don't write in Russian

[toxic verge]

That’s coming straight from the horse’s mouth

[cursive cape]

It's just that there are rules 🙁

[loud herald]

At the end of the day, the dude is coping and doesn't have a clue what hes saying

[narrow sigil]

wth is happening with gpt 2 image

[loud herald]

Whether its a grudge or just "wanting" US supremacy idk but its wrong

[toxic verge]

Yeah, definitely isn’t right

[loud herald]

Chinese Models are going to win this "race"

[toxic verge]

The same thing happened during the Cold War with the space race

[loud herald]

Lol

[toxic verge]

We are under the belief here in the west that communist countries can’t be innovative

That the west is far more superior intellectually, and that nobody could catch up to us

It’s the reasons the Russians were the first in space. And we were playing catch-up. Sure we sent a person to the moon, but the first person in space has far more political and historical significance.

[fallow shoal]

почему же?

[loud herald]

When realistically countries like China are always right behind the west with technology

[toxic verge]

But even if they weren’t, and even if they did steal it or whatever the things people like to say

It doesn’t matter lol

[loud herald]

Nope

Plenty of companies distill

I guarantee you Anthropic distills

OpenAI

As well

[toxic verge]

Do you know the number one electric car brand in the world?

[loud herald]

Everyone distills

[toxic verge]

BYD

They can manufacture a car under $10,000

[loud herald]

Yup

Thats another thing

China always seems to be MUCH cheaper

Tell me how that is if they're so far behind

[toxic verge]

It’s because they have a socialist government also that could control the ambitions of the capitalistic part of their economy

So that corporations are no single entity is above the state

And then can utilize the resources of both state and the private sector

[loud herald]

Also the compute thing that was said earlier, china has MUCH more power than us overall, they could open up so many more datacenters than the US and be fine

[toxic verge]

Well, that’s why electricity is cheaper also in China

[loud herald]

Exactly

[radiant heron]

these people might win lmao

[short sluice]

it hits a rate limit on both accs

ip based?????????

at the same time

i didnt even use it on one

[grand raft]

Also it gave me error

[obtuse smelt]

is error ?

[tired juniper]

bruh how can i generate a video

somebody help me

[hardy lion]

https://arena.ai/video

[tired juniper]

can i do image to image transition?

[sullen sable]

Arena?

[hardy lion]

you can upload image and do image to video, the uploaded image will be the first frame

[hardy lion]

Arena

[sullen sable]

Yea

arena

[hardy lion]

indeed

arena

[wicked talon]

Qwen is literally 9th place on arena it's slowly creeping

When deepseek v4 and qwen 4 release it's going to dominate

[ivory schooner]

To be honest, the probability that the GPT Image 2 model appears in Battle Mode image mode is extremely low, very low

[whole sundial]

also known as LMArena if you are one of the OpenAI employees in the GPT Image 2 livestream

[surreal zephyr]

Its 22 today

[surreal zephyr]

Its free on gpt website

[blazing bison]

They removed image 2 already lmao

[slim gorge]

holy fck the difference in score between nano banana 2 and gpt image 2 is insane

[vale quest]

No they didnt

Just search gpt

[surreal zephyr]

Released*

[grand raft]

It's at the very bottom of the image model choicea

[merry cloak]

Please I can't find the video Arena

[sullen sable]

https://arena.ai/video

thiss

[merry cloak]

Thanks

[sullen sable]

welcomee

[surreal zephyr]

Ez win for gpt

[dense sphinx]

Guys?

Arena Ai not working

I cant go in.

Sorry again for disturbance.

[civic plaza]

I can’t log in either

[storm dust]

huh

arena's down for me too

it loads slowly

[versed breach]

down for me too

[storm dust]

now it works fine

for me

[vital mantle]

My limit reached

[surreal zephyr]

Xaxaxa

[civic plaza]

If only😂

[storm dust]

activate the cheat once again it will work trust

[bleak minnow]

The GPT 2 image model disappeared for me in Arena... anyone else?

[hollow mortar]

It is funny how insane this is

[hollow mortar]

not at all

it is just gpt 2 medium

[ocean vortex]

should be there:

Medium is the quality option, not sure what the resolution is on lmarena, probably set to auto or 2k

[shrewd citrus]

it’s weird how it’s hidden

[jade sky]

what app/website is this?

[storm dust]

it's shy

[wicked talon]

Deepseek loves going down

[low patrol]

they put it to bottom because they want people to use battle mode( my guess)

[hollow mulch]

No more mythos

🙁

[rough surge]

how do you get that option

[red chasm]

I wonder when they'll bring back these models? (I'm talking about the new Claude Opus 4.7, as well as the Gemini 3.0/3.1 Pro, GPT-5.4...)

[little aurora]

[sharp mirage]

yo hello

all

did anyone tried firebase studio ?

[little aurora]

Can someone guude me on how to be valuable and get highest role here

[storm dust]

bro's arena champion

bro secretly baiting us

[acoustic cliff]

ragebait in the big 26 🥀

[sullen sable]

Ive tried it before

[sharp mirage]

lol

[sharp mirage]

what do you think about it ?

do you think its good ?

[sullen sable]

😁

[modest skiff]

https://youtu.be/uZkpdiHAcFA

[frank junco]

Any news on gpt 5.5/6?

[storm dust]

sorry i ate spud

[sullen sable]

Potatooo

[frank junco]

okay

[sullen sable]

BM vs ohlol peak moment

[storm dust]

forget that guy

i dont know him anymore

[sullen sable]

haha

[frank junco]

https://x.com/koltregaskes/status/2046830759705723006?s=20

Kol Tregaskes (@koltregaskes)

GPT‑5.5 briefly showed up in the Codex app and CLI model dropdowns - alongside a handful of odd, unfamiliar names. If that’s real, 5.5 may be close.

Other models spotted:
- oai-2.1
- arcanine
- glacier-alpha
- glacier-alpha-block-cy4
- glacier-alpha-block-cy3

X · Apr 22, 2026, 5:57 AM

[sullen sable]

ayo

w

[frank junco]

https://x.com/tehnlulz/status/2046807073250496679?s=20

Matt Marx (@tehnlulz)

aaaand it's gone. I did manage to fire off one prompt. Looks great at design now!

Design and code a high-end, ultra-modern, single-file HTML/Tailwind CSS landing page for 'https://t.co/ACEUaE9AEe,' a cutting-edge cybersecurity brand specializing in anti-phishing and brand

X · Apr 22, 2026, 4:23 AM

[storm dust]

i heard that gpt 5.5 is in a/b testing

[sharp mirage]

wait what

We're sunsetting Firebase Studio on March 22, 2027.

[sullen sable]

oh naah

[sharp mirage]

why they do this ?

[sullen sable]

do u always use it?

[sharp mirage]

not rellay

but

idk why they doing htis

this*

[sullen sable]

yeaah

maybe cuz they have yknow antigravity and google ai studio?

or they're gonna merge the features of firebase studio

[sharp mirage]

yea prb

[sullen sable]

I haven't used it in a long time anyway haha

[sharp mirage]

i making a claude skill do you try it

or i can send md file if you want to use it in another model

[sullen sable]

sure

[sharp mirage]

you want the skill or the md file ?

[sullen sable]

Skill

[light sleet]

Gpt image 2 medium

[ocean vortex]

That is hardcoded by lmarena for them to manage cost. OpenAI does this for ChatGPT as well depending on your sub. You can only customize it with direct API access. Screenshot is from their playground (API billing platform).

[frigid tusk]

why for me , this is the models i got ? dont even have any opus ;-;

[sullen sable]

I like chicken

[surreal zephyr]

Gpt 6 spud was nerfed so hard

Its not same as what it was when it was released

Openai saving on compute by nerfing models

[frank junco]

its not gpt 6 bro

its 5.5

[surreal zephyr]

Which one

[frank junco]

there is no gpt 6

all their internal models were leaked theres only 5.5

[surreal zephyr]

Theres like 5 new models

💀

[frank junco]

oh

arcanine?

[surreal zephyr]

If new base is not called 6 that means spud is massive failure

So it better be called 6

[surreal zephyr]

5.5 might be what pro mode used

[frank junco]

but why is there 5.5 and spud then

theyre seperate?

[surreal zephyr]

No idea

But spud is new base

So it makes 0 sense to be called 5.5

When its 6o model

💀

[frank junco]

I hope youre right bro

[surreal zephyr]

If they call it 5.5 that means it was so bad they abadoned their usual naming

[frank junco]

do you find that unlikely

if its anything like 4o then the omnimodality nerfed the text performance

if theyve figured out a better way to fuse the modalities and combine the intelligence then gpt 6 will be an incredible model

[frank junco]

so images-2 is gpt 6 too?

although it uses 5.4 for the reasoning

[grand raft]

it went from the bottom of the rank

[honest verge]

What happened to Chinese models?

Even though they didn't have information about current date

Now Kimi and deepseek clearly have it

Even though their knowledge cutoff is under April 2026

[surreal zephyr]

That would make sense but no idea tbh

I give up

[frank junco]

okay

[grand raft]

guys is chatgpt down?

[sullen sable]

Nat fur me

[grand raft]

nvm

[wicked sage]

hi guys

[surreal zephyr]

5.4 pro polishing my garbage homework 🥀

"Make it look more ai
Add double pauses -
Add comments"

[sullen sable]

do u guys play gd

[wicked sage]

me! me! me!

[surreal zephyr]

gpt 6 spud can one shot gd

🤔

[wicked sage]

no it can not 🙏

[sullen sable]

Try

[sullen sable]

my hardest is can't let go

jk

[surreal zephyr]

@wicked sage

tank in gd 🔥

[stray aspen]

holy gpt image 2

[wicked sage]

i take back what i said
even tho its not perfect it deadass got the core parts right

[storm dust]

yeah i also thought that

[wicked sage]

its over

[surreal zephyr]

we cooked

🥀

[wicked sage]

how do you guys have gpt image v2 btw

[surreal zephyr]

its out already

[stray aspen]

its ltierally in lmarena

or chatgpt.com

[wicked sage]

oh it is?? i didnt check

ty

[sullen sable]

Haven't been playing gd, is grief verified?

ill verify it

[wicked sage]

nope i dont think so

[sullen sable]

oh damn

[surreal zephyr]

i want to join wt server

and troll with ts

😭

[sullen sable]

Is that ai

[surreal zephyr]

yuh

[sullen sable]

oh ok

[stray aspen]

ill do it

[surreal zephyr]

me too

fr

[wicked sage]

wtf 🙏

[sullen sable]

It's u

[wicked sage]

i asked gpt image 2 to generate kasane teto
it literally got every detail right

LOL

[sullen sable]

holy mutual servers haha

[stray aspen]

yo what th ehell

send me the server

[wicked sage]

wtf 🙏

[sullen sable]

Hahaha

[frank junco]

it also looks up stuff with web search to find references

but most ai models know teto

[wicked sage]

fair enough honestly

[frank junco]

ask for fat chracters and it wont do it

but it does fat teto

which is funny

[stray aspen]

lmao

[sullen sable]

dawmn

[sullen sable]

why these look so good😭

[sullen sable]

guess the level

I wanna open arena ai and generate pics with the ai's but I'm too lazy to leave discord😭

[frank junco]

bro

I got that awful weirdness that other guy had

it looks like those old dalle 1 images

[light sleet]

Roblox pictures by AI would never be perfect

Especially cuz it's a game inside roblox

[surreal zephyr]

yeah this one looks meh

[pastel mesa]

@echo aurora i have the api key. i need to send you the api key?

[surreal zephyr]

kiddons is crazy

stand>>>>

cherax now tbf

[frank junco]

roblox especially should have the most training images of any game

[light sleet]

yo ampro

why does arenas image 2 look better than the original

😭

[shrewd citrus]

woah woah

[light sleet]

When's my turn arena

Is it only out for the USA yet or specific accounts

[versed kelp]

gimme the prompt

plesae

speed i need this

[shrewd citrus]

specific since I’m in the uk

[light sleet]

Kk

[shrewd citrus]

wait it doesn’t even work

it’s gone now 😭

[versed kelp]

yo gpt 2 image lowkey goated as hell

finally openai did something nice for once

[light sleet]

nightfury the secret

OpenAI care to explain this?

[shrewd citrus]

wait is that in the app

lowkey tho looks ai generated

that background looking a bit off

[light sleet]

cuz it is

[shrewd citrus]

what is spud anyway I heard people talking about it

[light sleet]

chatgpt new model

(beats every other models)

[shrewd citrus]

every other model sounds crazy

opus 4.7 too?

[light sleet]

mythos.

[shrewd citrus]

ok buddy I don’t think it’s THAT good 😭

[surreal zephyr]

This is original

[light sleet]

We don't know when spud would come out but when it does it's gonna beat everything

[surreal zephyr]

The quality on original is auto

[silent tree]

bro

it is

it will beat mythos hard

@surreal zephyr am I right

[keen beacon]

Is there a major update in the arena?

wth if this

[storm dust]

🥀

[versed kelp]

tf is food delivery

bro finna order a mdouble, in the middle of vibe coding sesh

[keen beacon]

💀

[rocky geyser]

gpt image 2

[silent tree]

no anthropic doesnt mog my sam altman

[storm dust]

wow interesting

[keen beacon]

W new arena update

[storm dust]

trauma

[keen beacon]

@echo aurora arena in future concept

[storm dust]

hell nah

no way

[keen beacon]

hell yeah

p2w

[storm dust]

i see p2w everywhere

trauma

[median smelt]

Tuff

[keen beacon]

💀💵

[keen beacon]

Unfortunately or fortunately, the arena will soon turn into this

[median smelt]

fortunately, as long as there arent any loot boxes or microtransactions

[storm dust]

thats a game at this point not arena

[keen beacon]

fortunately soon

[keen beacon]

Well, it's not for nothing that this is an arena

[silent tree]

I love designarena and arena

[storm dust]

so this is the "new usage system"

i mean that

[silent tree]

Oh hey it's our little pentester

[keen beacon]

then they will add p2w content

then arena pass

then more p2w updates

[versed kelp]

arena pass

bro this aint brawl arena

[silent tree]

youre not getting unblocked from him 🥀 ✌️

[keen beacon]

no, it is

[storm dust]

bro is dreaming in a nightmare

[keen beacon]

prompt: What would this site look like in the future after many different updates?

model gpt-image-2

think about it

[storm dust]

bro what is that

why are there so many uis

so many interactions

[keen beacon]

idk

[storm dust]

identity reveal

[storm dust]

that you?

[keen beacon]

yes

[silent tree]

anthropic ceo before claude vs after claude

[storm dust]

i think thats called getting older

[keen beacon]

why i cant say epshtein on this server

[storm dust]

einstein

you're saying it wrong?

[keen beacon]

no eintstein

epstei

n

[storm dust]

dude

[silent tree]

altman 2 years younger

[storm dust]

he is albert einstein not that

[frank junco]

the big E

[silent tree]

only

Epstrain bro

[keen beacon]

no , albert epsteim

[light sleet]

Midnight fade here

[icy wigeon]

hi does that arena pro exist?

[light sleet]

He will remind to not make convos like these

[keen beacon]

yes

[light sleet]

100%

[keen beacon]

arena pass too exist

[storm dust]

WAHT

[icy wigeon]

Where can I get it or how do I look for it?

[echo sinew]

Hey folks! I'll ask to keep the chat on topic = AI. Some words are filtered by the bot and there's a reason for it. In this case, that topic is not suitable for this server. Thanks for understanding.

[keen beacon]

write to pineapple

[light sleet]

That's mine

[keen beacon]

tf entity 67

[silent tree]

new sigma entity

[keen beacon]

🤩

[icy wigeon]

Pineapple Should I look for it here on Discord?

[storm dust]

67's older brother

[silent tree]

He isn't pineapple

[keen beacon]

yes

@echo aurora

He wants to buy an Arena Pro

[light sleet]

Isn't that misinformation?

I dont think misinformation is allowed.

[keen beacon]

bro

[storm dust]

i also think it is too much tho

why is bro fantasizing "future" arena with ai

[light sleet]

rule 6

[keen beacon]

Who will believe this nonsense?

[keen beacon]

rule 67

[light sleet]

"even in an joking manner"

don't impersonate arena staff, mod

even in an joking manner.

[keen beacon]

So pineapple is a moderator

[icy wigeon]

Thank you very much, yes, I wanted to send you a request but it is not accepting me, Discord told me, that's why I can't write to you

[keen beacon]

bro

The subscription does not exist in the arena

[storm dust]

Bombastic_Sideye

[loud herald]

It never will either

[echo sinew]

Submit your question in https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1466486650170245435 But in short, Arena service is free. There's no paid subscriptions or premium plans.

[keen beacon]

for now

[loud herald]

No, never lmao

[keen beacon]

bro

[loud herald]

Their entire brand is around being free and only their for benchmarks of actual humans

[loud herald]

Humans rate the AI

[loud herald]

That’s usage limits not payments smart guy

[storm dust]

bro this aint "new usage system"

[light sleet]

How do I know If my application for arena champion is approved or disapproved

[storm dust]

💀

[keen beacon]

Changing the limits has a chance of adding p2w

[light sleet]

Or I can know if it's approved (by getting the channels of course) but what about disapproval.

[loud herald]

No it doesn’t because they aren’t going to

[keen beacon]

but you don't know

and me too

[echo sinew]

Only pineapple handles that. He'll get back to you once he's the chance to review all applications.

[light sleet]

Kk

[loud herald]

I do because their ENTIRE brand is based around being FREE

[storm dust]

whats arena champion tho

where can you apply for it

[keen beacon]

So this freedom is being gradually curtailed, haven't you noticed? Back when lmarena was around?

[storm dust]

p2w heaven

[loud herald]

Lmao bro what are you even saying? The usage limits are being implemented because people abuse the system and then drain the money so they have to put a stop to it

[keen beacon]

First they added a captcha, then they added limits, and now they've cut almost half the good models, and they're pushing new models like gpt-image-2 to the very bottom so that few people use them, just for testing.

[echo sinew]

#announcements message

[onyx mirage]

I don't find Video Arena Channel.

[storm dust]

thanks i will check it out

[versed kelp]

holy bro, ai models are not cheap

[keen beacon]

ik

[loud herald]

Wow it’s almost like that’s an expense thing and to stop people from abusing with web scrapers

[versed kelp]

without the limits, they are going bankrupt

[loud herald]

Exactly

[keen beacon]

In any case, they will add p2w; it is inevitable for the company

[storm dust]

oh no

[echo sinew]

The Video Arena Discord bot was removed from the server and is no longer available. This announcement has more information about the removal.

[storm dust]

this smells bad.

[loud herald]

Nobody can host that much AI constantly and without limits and not go bankrupt

[keen beacon]

and without p2w

[loud herald]

No they won’t you’re dead wrong

[versed kelp]

what p2w???

[keen beacon]

They'll do it, believe me.

[icy wigeon]

Thank you very much for your help, I am new here, that's why I don't understand much, the LM Arena page helps me a lot in my daily work to create images to print and those things, thank you

[loud herald]

Weird, without p2w they still made $30M in revenue not too long ago

[versed kelp]

they sell our data

which is fine ig

[storm dust]

imagine if this server had ai debates channel

[keen beacon]

then why are there more and more limits every month?

[loud herald]

They sell the data taken from our prompts, it says that in the privacy guidelines as well

[loud herald]

Because AI is only getting more and more expensive

Like how are you not understanding this 😭

[versed kelp]

that is what i said

[keen beacon]

You just confirmed my words about adding p2w. It's not profitable for them to put out better and better models

[loud herald]

Yea, I just wanted to clarify because data can be anything lol

[loud herald]

Dude what? I literally just said they made $30M in revenue and will still consistently make revenue so they won’t be adding p2w

Like it’s not hard man