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proud bobcat
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so at worst

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its equal

vestal lava
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You Need Claude Opus 4.7 in direct chat?

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Yes

surreal zephyr
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Claude token efficiency is 2x worse

loud herald
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Anthropic out of these AI companies are by far the greediest and it puts a bad taste in my mouth

surreal zephyr
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It uses 4.7 tokenizer

loud herald
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Yes but it cuts your code in half which is stupid

surreal zephyr
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Lol

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Adress this @proud bobcat

proud bobcat
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aha

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but

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how do we know if 5.4 pro doesnt use a different tokenizer

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and is as efficient?

surreal zephyr
loud herald
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Anthropic want to play this stupid game of scaling and scaling and scaling and then run out of money, its actual low IQ moves

proud bobcat
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gpt 5.4 is a HALLUCINATION MACHINE

loud herald
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Its like watching the downfall of fortnite

proud bobcat
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and then became greedy themselves

surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
loud herald
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OpenAI is generous atp

loud herald
surreal zephyr
proud bobcat
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thats 10 5.4's hallucinating

surreal zephyr
light sleet
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Instructions unclear, the hofburg model is NOT an Openai model, I tested a roblox code for a good UI, it isn't any close to GPT.

loud herald
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If thats the case then thats why its $30 damn dollars on every input

surreal zephyr
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Its like 10 models merged thinking together

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So its better than just 10 agents

proud bobcat
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jesse

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do you understand how llms work

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price being 10x 5.4 doesnt mean multiple agents or multiple models merged

surreal zephyr
proud bobcat
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its just because pro means better and openai picked and arbitrary number

surreal zephyr
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Or try it

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Do you not realise how deepthinks work?

proud bobcat
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ah yeah im gonna blow over hundreds of dollars only for it to give me garbage

ocean vortex
surreal zephyr
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It splits the run into 10 explorators

light sleet
surreal zephyr
proud bobcat
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is it 10 sub agents

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or is it 10 models combined

surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
ocean vortex
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Anthropic didn't really have gpt4.5 types of failures with model sizes

loud herald
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Be like google

ocean vortex
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And they didn't go too small either, like what Google did when they first tried reasoning on a small Flash

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and it didn't work

surreal zephyr
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@proud bobcat show me 1 example where claude made objectively better code

loud herald
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Take time and learn to optimize and make models smaller

proud bobcat
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i asked gpt to make a minecraft game

literally one of the simplest things

the game wouldnt even load

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gave it to kimi

crystal mica
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btw

proud bobcat
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fixed it completely

loud herald
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Use bitnet 1.58B then if you get to 10T parameters its using the same amount of compute but 6X smarter

ocean vortex
surreal zephyr
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๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

crystal mica
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why censorship exists on LMArena at all?

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i mean

surreal zephyr
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Did bro try to run react

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By double clicking

proud bobcat
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through arena

surreal zephyr
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๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

proud bobcat
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may i add

ocean vortex
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The main indicator is always performance. And Mythos performs exceptionally well. That means they are doing it the right way

crystal mica
proud bobcat
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so the beautiful great gpt couldnt install the proper packages itself

surreal zephyr
silent tree
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ACCEPT THE TRUTH, OPENAI IS BETTER THAN ANTHROPIC

proud bobcat
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this is pure copium

loud herald
loud herald
loud herald
shy mason
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no model is accurate in arena as their official one, yall never knew that?

nova fjord
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Now, no matter what I do I can no longer encounter Opus 4.7 in battle mode.

obsidian shell
surreal zephyr
ocean vortex
loud herald
# proud bobcat this

I'm bouta start hating on deepseek if they dont release v4 anytime soon though LOL

echo aurora
proud bobcat
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its so good

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its actually so good

loud herald
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Zipbomb incoming

surreal zephyr
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@proud bobcat make Minecraft clone on opus.
One-shot. Be fair.
Ill make one on paid gpt.
Lets see.
If you want a fair comparison in good faith

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Ok?

loud herald
proud bobcat
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its gone from arena

proud bobcat
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its great

loud herald
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LOL did he get banned

proud bobcat
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best math model

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yeah lol

loud herald
proud bobcat
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deepseek app now has instant and expert mode

surreal zephyr
crystal mica
obsidian shell
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what was even that zip...

surreal zephyr
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Literally better than mythos at diamond

ocean vortex
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But yeah, ChatGPT is without question the best generalist AI product out there. There's no contest even

proud bobcat
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good grief

loud herald
light sleet
proud bobcat
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aint no one using 5.4 pro for geometry my dude

obsidian shell
light sleet
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the zip file was 100% malicious.

surreal zephyr
wicked talon
proud bobcat
surreal zephyr
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5.4 pro standard beats mythos at math

echo aurora
proud bobcat
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im just saying in general deepseek is absolutely awesome at math

only has failed me once

surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
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Im not saying its bad

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But 5.4 is not worse lmao

proud bobcat
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calm down

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im not saying its better

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im just saying its great

surreal zephyr
surreal zephyr
proud bobcat
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best math model that doesnt require you to have a 100 dollar subscription and is completely free

proud bobcat
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deepseek is just my goat

loud herald
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Ah I see what that was

proud bobcat
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cheap to use on api

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qwen 3.6 beats it for sure but deepseek is still unparalled in reliability

surreal zephyr
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i agree qwen is good

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i literally glaze qwen 3.5 27b

loud herald
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I like that

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Safety Guardrails adds to hallucination

proud bobcat
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the race for safety guardrails has lobotomized so many models

surreal zephyr
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BUT i tried 5.4 pro and its literally not same universe as nothing

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i got claude, grok, gpt, minimax subs

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not even same universe lmao

loud herald
proud bobcat
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exactly

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gpt and gemini are by far the worst in this regard

loud herald
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I think all AI except generative AI should be uncensored

loud herald
proud bobcat
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i think it should be more like a rigid set of morals for the model instead of baking it into the model

surreal zephyr
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KYC turns off most safety filters

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.com/cyber

loud herald
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But that'd make it easier to bypass, but then at the same time all they need to do is say they've put guardrails and the companies safew

loud herald
surreal zephyr
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but it can reverse binaries

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beast

loud herald
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Holy moly

surreal zephyr
spring oar
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poll_question_text

Opus 4.7 no thinking = Opus 4.6 thinking ?

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4

surreal zephyr
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i was thinking its "meh" but needed more quota so i bought the 100$ sub

loud herald
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Is cyber in the $20 plan?

surreal zephyr
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and dang man its insane

harsh blaze
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Opus is insane

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๐Ÿ™‚

surreal zephyr
harsh blaze
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Like really strong

loud herald
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Unfortunate

harsh blaze
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Too bad i cant test it

surreal zephyr
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5.4 pro is mythos-tier

harsh blaze
surreal zephyr
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but actually reliable

loud herald
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Although they did down from $200 to $100 it aint as bad as it used to be

surreal zephyr
harsh blaze
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Wel yea agree

harsh blaze
obsidian shell
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@echo aurora i just tried opus 4.6 and it failed

surreal zephyr
obsidian shell
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all i did was say hi

echo aurora
obsidian shell
surreal zephyr
obsidian shell
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because openai is not our friend

surreal zephyr
echo aurora
# obsidian shell yes

That model has been removed from Direct/Side by Side, so this is going to be expected behavior.

surreal zephyr
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and its worth it

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lol

obsidian shell
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4.6 is still there

echo aurora
echo aurora
regal mulch
echo aurora
inland ember
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Image battle mode is like rolling for luck

undone saffron
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@แฒผ can u dm me pls

next trout
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wht are the talks bringing the frontier models back

obsidian shell
loud herald
silent tree
shadow jewel
inland ember
echo aurora
# obsidian shell

That's likely a caching issue. If you open a new browser you shouldn't see them there.

loud herald
regal mulch
# echo aurora How so?

Missing a lot of models (the best models), there are many bugs when sending chats (asking to clear or retry and not working).

inland ember
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Finally duct 3

obsidian shell
surreal zephyr
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5.4 pro is likely not because it takes few hours per task i js realised lmao

median smelt
edgy iron
surreal zephyr
loud herald
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Health related models seem to not be a big thing in these AI companies

paper wagon
loud herald
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So rosalind is nice

surreal zephyr
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because

median smelt
surreal zephyr
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scary

loud herald
surreal zephyr
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evo2 is already scary its capable of making crazy viruses (if it had no guardrails on purpose)

loud herald
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It can make antidotes to viruses and stuff or know when DNA is infected with something

surreal zephyr
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imagine they release GPT-6-Combat. designed for military virus engineering

loud herald
echo aurora
loud herald
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Giving people way more power then they should have

echo aurora
surreal zephyr
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when he's cooking for few hours but you kinda know he gona deliver as always

median smelt
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I hate captchas

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why are they so buggy

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I selected all of the bikes and busses, what do you mean i failed

paper wagon
# echo aurora No, it's still in Battle.

I was testing prompts and knew for sure that one of the models was Opus 4.7, and now it's throwing an error saying that this model is no longer available (Trace ID: :74c35e8f-f467-)

vale quest
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Pineapple can we have claude opus 4.7 in direct

light sleet
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pineapple do u get paid

vale quest
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Pineapple are you conscious considering you are a fruit

echo aurora
loud herald
median smelt
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Pineapple is there literally any way to fix the bugged captchas?

echo aurora
echo aurora
surreal zephyr
vale quest
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So if it is Monday you are sad pineapple but on the Sunday happy pineapple

loud herald
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Pineapple is likely an Artificial Pineapple that has become intelligent

median smelt
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API (artificial pineapple intelligence)

surreal zephyr
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imagine if pineapple is a psyop

echo aurora
surreal zephyr
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and its actual neural fruit typing

loud herald
surreal zephyr
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not a person

light sleet
median smelt
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Can we delete captchas and replace them with chatchas (chatgpt + captchas because chatgpt is more intelligent)

paper wagon
light sleet
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Can we get rid of captcha and let pineapple decide if we're human or not (rip pineapple time)

median smelt
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Guys what song should I try to bypass on seedance 2.0 (choose a popular song)

shadow jewel
median smelt
surreal zephyr
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by google

median smelt
light sleet
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Bro use sonauto man

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

median smelt
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oh

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oh wakt

surreal zephyr
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is better

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than suno

vale quest
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CALA BONITA (Instagram Remix, Clean Ver.)

light sleet
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yes but

median smelt
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Wait isnt lyria the one used in Gemini Music?

surreal zephyr
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and free

light sleet
surreal zephyr
light sleet
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They removed remix

surreal zephyr
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WHAT

light sleet
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I've been using producer since riffusion

surreal zephyr
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WHYYYY

light sleet
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And it was a huge heartbreak to the community

vale quest
light sleet
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honestly

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They didn't provide reason

median smelt
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Imma see if my video music bypass works on uh

light sleet
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I use sonauto too cuz they're unlimited free, and their new v3 model is so good

median smelt
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producer

echo aurora
# paper wagon Yes

Still looking into, it's not yet clear what caused this, but will escalate up to the team when I know more. Would note too for future cases sharing the Trace ID in #1417174113092374689 is preferred. #general moves too quick.

light sleet
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BRO THEY UPDATED AGAIN @surreal zephyr

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WRH

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WTH

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I JUST WENT AND IT SHOWS FLOW MUSIC NOW

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Google Flow Music

surreal zephyr
echo aurora
light sleet
echo aurora
# vale quest Huh wdym

The opus models have been removed from Direct and Side by Side modes, so trying to use them there you'll get this error. But they shouldn't be appearing in the drop down in the first place.

vale quest
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Ohhh

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Well imma enjoy my luxury opus

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While you all eat away at sonnet and glm

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Gambling in battle mode while its given to me on a silver platter

loud herald
median smelt
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I forgot I made a gem specifically for bypassing Gemini Music, but it didnt work well

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Imma try to improve it

light sleet
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@surreal zephyr not the same producer u used to know anymore ๐Ÿ’”

loud herald
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Lmaoo

surreal zephyr
light sleet
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and ofc Google wants MONEY

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So

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I do have 6000 credits left and it feels like never ending ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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I dont even use producer that much anymore

surreal zephyr
vale quest
light sleet
light sleet
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lol

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It's just an extension

light sleet
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the reply won't work

vivid oasis
vale quest
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You wanna see huh

light sleet
light sleet
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Do it

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Send a prompt

loud herald
light sleet
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@surreal zephyr no dude

surreal zephyr
light sleet
#

they were never a part of Google before

surreal zephyr
light sleet
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it was riffusion before

loud herald
light sleet
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creates 3 minute long

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audios

surreal zephyr
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bro

vivid oasis
light sleet
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they can do whatever they want with their model ๐Ÿ˜ญ

loud herald
surreal zephyr
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they were always google's partner tho

light sleet
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Why did they make the announcement late then

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

vivid oasis
light sleet
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cuz it was called riffusion before and it transitioned to producer

loud herald
light sleet
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after like MONTHS they announced this

vale quest
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Im back

wary nacelle
vale quest
surreal zephyr
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but producer.ai was partner of google and it runs on gemini + lyria 3 pro (before it came out)

sharp mirage
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Uo all

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Yo

wary nacelle
light sleet
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heres why

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It's cuz

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In producer ai

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Before an update came

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They said "We're making things better" smth like that

surreal zephyr
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

light sleet
sterile tartan
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It was Fuzz before in producer Ai

light sleet
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they

light sleet
sterile tartan
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Now is Lyria 3 Pro

sharp mirage
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@echo aurora

surreal zephyr
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BEFORE lyria 3 came out

light sleet
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fuzz 2 and 1 were there original models

light sleet
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but then they updated and made us wait 2 days

vale quest
light sleet
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and used fuzz 3

sharp mirage
sterile tartan
light sleet
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Which was basically lyria 3

harsh blaze
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Minion want to eat banana~

sharp mirage
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And mango and photo?

vale quest
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God it

wary nacelle
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Is this cartoonish fruits rebellion

light sleet
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It was never a partner of Google

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They were on their own before.

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Riffusion

vale quest
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Guys

sharp mirage
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Banana

vale quest
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๐ŸŽ ๐ŸŽ ๐ŸŽ ๐ŸŽ ๐ŸŽ

light sleet
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didnt i

sharp mirage
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Where is mango and the other guy?

sterile tartan
#

Today i had a Juicy Fruit Salad

vale quest
vale quest
light sleet
sharp mirage
vale quest
sharp mirage
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Where is mango

vale quest
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Just kidding no I'm stupid

light sleet
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I dont seeeee itttt

sterile tartan
sharp mirage
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At least banana still alive

sterile tartan
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Not for 2 long

vale quest
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Hey yalls peter griffin here

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In Kate's kitchen

light sleet
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don't worry

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pineapples gonna protect me

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MUHAHAHHAH

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PRODUCE CLUB

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ASSEMBLE

light sleet
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ATTACK @sterile tartan

silent tree
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LOOKS LIKE

sterile tartan
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I need my fruit salad

silent tree
#

WE GOT SOMEONE

sterile tartan
#

Hahaha!

silent tree
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TO DEAL WITH

sharp mirage
#

@echo aurora add @stray epoch

stray epoch
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hi

sharp mirage
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Hi

sterile tartan
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I don't need a potato

harsh blaze
#

What can we cook with Spud?

sharp mirage
shy mason
sterile tartan
stray epoch
sharp mirage
harsh blaze
#

With extra melon juice?

echo aurora
sharp mirage
sterile tartan
harsh blaze
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:)) how about Pineapple on a pizza? It would be an warcrime

sharp mirage
#

Pineapple ur gone to get eaten ๐Ÿ˜ญ
Or maybe you have extra defence

stray epoch
sharp mirage
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
#

Who said that

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Nvm

stray epoch
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
#

Ig pineapple have extra protection

sterile tartan
#

What's deface

harsh blaze
#

So do we have tomatoes here?

sharp mirage
sterile tartan
#

They are in my basement tho

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You can come there

harsh blaze
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Well he gonna be spud best friend....as an Extra Sauces!

sharp mirage
#

They got traped /:

stray epoch
#

if you eat me my brother named spud will never release

sharp mirage
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I will get revenge for my brother

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Sarge law be like

vital mantle
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I moved to a new Mac and Claude IQ is low

sterile tartan
vital mantle
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how I get the old file over

vital mantle
#

I had 3k sessions

harsh blaze
vital mantle
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I need the old data

sharp mirage
vital mantle
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so Claude perform

sterile tartan
harsh blaze
#

Wel actually i do~

sterile tartan
#

999k$ salary a month

waxen grove
#

2 Cents a Millennium

sharp mirage
sterile tartan
#

No weak hearts

sharp mirage
sterile tartan
#

Your first mission is to hunt all fruits and vegetables of this server

sharp mirage
stray epoch
waxen grove
#

i sure do love COPYRI7ฬทฬ•อ‘ฬฬCHT LUIGI

sterile tartan
#

This is your weapon cherry

median smelt
sharp mirage
#

Alr

sterile tartan
#

I see you tomorrow then

waxen grove
sterile tartan
#

Dismiss.

median smelt
waxen grove
sharp mirage
#

Can i get my money now ?

median smelt
#

Weird

sterile tartan
#

If you fail you be my meal for tomorrow

sharp mirage
#

Well i killed banana

waxen grove
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
#

Banana died since u give me the sword

sterile tartan
#

That was fast

surreal zephyr
#

holy hell 5.4 pro just finished the minecraft copy

median smelt
#

images v2 is Spud.

sterile tartan
#

Here's your reward

median smelt
#

images v2 is Spud.

surreal zephyr
#

bro he wrote whole world generator ๐Ÿ˜ญ

sharp mirage
#

Btw are you in kitchen?

sterile tartan
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
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With knife ๐Ÿ”ช

median smelt
stray epoch
sterile tartan
sterile tartan
#

Bingo

surreal zephyr
#

2.7k LOC

sharp mirage
stray epoch
sterile tartan
stray epoch
sharp mirage
sharp mirage
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
stray epoch
median smelt
sterile tartan
median smelt
#

Actualy it takes 500 trillion years

sharp mirage
#

If you are with me say hi

sterile tartan
stray epoch
sharp mirage
#

Pineapple be like
Watching the world burn

sharp mirage
sharp mirage
#

I was the imposter

harsh blaze
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:))) spub the fried

stray epoch
#

no

sharp mirage
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Ur died

stray epoch
#

im hidden

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that was my clone too

sterile tartan
#

Quit acting it's over

sharp mirage
#

I killed ur clone

median smelt
sharp mirage
#

Ai anos the meal is ready

waxen grove
#

seedream 4.5

stray epoch
sharp mirage
#

Come to kitchen

sterile tartan
surreal zephyr
stray epoch
#

you guys eat my clones and i'm safe

sterile tartan
#

Now we are in the kitchen

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Here's the Tomatos

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Prepare the ketchup

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don't try anything funny

median smelt
sterile tartan
median smelt
#

and what

sterile tartan
#

nothing happens

sharp mirage
#

I was the imposter

surreal zephyr
#

5.4 pro cooked wtf

sharp mirage
#

You got killed

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By evil Larry ๐Ÿ˜ท

sterile tartan
waxen grove
sharp mirage
sterile tartan
#

I knew it all along

stray epoch
waxen grove
#

cant vote so i think left one is early nanobanana model

sterile tartan
#

There's a little bomb chip on you @sharp mirage

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Should blow in few minutes

sharp mirage
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Cuz the clone has never joined this serve Cuz you were here not today you were here from before

sterile tartan
#

Any last wishes?

sterile tartan
sharp mirage
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
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Yeah

sterile tartan
sharp mirage
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At least i am not alone

sterile tartan
#

Why did you betray me?

sharp mirage
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I went back to my fruit

sterile tartan
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And you are a animal?

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Not a fruit?

light sleet
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hi guys

stray epoch
sterile tartan
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Or i chop u

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And feed it to a monkey

light sleet
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

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And feed me to a monkey

stray epoch
light sleet
#

Noo

median smelt
light sleet
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Look at what happened to spud

sterile tartan
#

You are spared for now

sharp mirage
#

I went back

sterile tartan
waxen grove
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every 2 image generations, a bug happens where only one generates

surreal zephyr
#

am mining

sterile tartan
surreal zephyr
sharp mirage
sterile tartan
sharp mirage
waxen grove
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ok i think i finally got a duct-tape model

light sleet
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I FEEL SO JEALOUS WHEN SOMEONE GETS DUCT TAOE

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but theyre going through the same as me soo

waxen grove
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this sucks man

light sleet
sterile tartan
median smelt
light sleet
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they make it so rare

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that

sterile tartan
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Exactly

light sleet
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u can't get it in 30 prompts

waxen grove
light sleet
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Or even 50

sterile tartan
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You are quite smart for being a banana

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Don't bother now wait for release

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They were just elo farming

light sleet
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release in Tuesday or Thursday

light sleet
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now dont chop me

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pls

sterile tartan
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Fine

covert totem
#

sup yall

median smelt
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sup Vez

covert totem
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OpenClaude + minimax is so op

harsh blaze
#

Cherry i know your brother

covert totem
#

made me this

spring oar
#
poll_question_text

Opus 4.6 >> Opus 4.7

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

11

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

No

sterile tartan
#

Your kingdom has put quite a Great show for me

#

I spare all of you for now

median smelt
#

||joke if you couldn't tell||

sharp mirage
#

Lets attack himmm

#

Fruit's team

surreal zephyr
sharp mirage
#

Gooo oonnnn

light sleet
#

u mean produce

median smelt
#

inages v2 is Spud.

light sleet
outer spear
#

So Claude 4.7 is just a diluted version of 4.6?

light sleet
sterile tartan
#

@stray epoch i see you are healed

#

Nice

median smelt
surreal zephyr
stray epoch
median smelt
light sleet
#

pls

#

pls

#

PLSSS

median smelt
whole sundial
#

there is no way gpt image 2 is based on 4o, maybe gpt 5.4 nano but nothing else
whatever llm it's using has world knowledge worse than qwen3.6 35b in my testing, must be a special model made for it (which is why it's so good at certain things)

median smelt
surreal zephyr
median smelt
#

Exactly

light sleet
sharp mirage
whole sundial
#

yeah i honestly think gpt image 2 is somehow based on 5.4 nano

sharp mirage
#

Lol same

light sleet
#

afk

whole sundial
#

no way it can use 4o or 4o mini because both models have much better world knowledge than whatever image 2 is using

sharp mirage
#

Or maybe 5.4 thinking model

sharp mirage
whole sundial
#

same applies to any other non-nano model openai has released

whole sundial
sharp mirage
#

Mini thinking or something

whole sundial
#

yes 5.4 nano thinking

sharp mirage
#

Exactly

whole sundial
#

5.4 nano is brain-dead in world knowledge, llama 3.1 8b (4bit quant) can do better at times

median smelt
#

I just extracted Gemini 3 Flash's sys prompt

harsh blaze
#

Iss this your brother?

median smelt
#

yea bro ig

dreamy hill
#

Has anyone tried the Opus 4.7 model?

hardy lion
#

ye It's pretty good

random prairie
median smelt
minor bloom
#

Grok 4.3

#

๐Ÿฅณ

undone geyser
#

patience guys, i believe until june, arena will have it all that are missing: gpt image 2, gemini text models and claude text models, all on direct chat

echo aurora
# random prairie What?

When looking up this Trace ID it's a little unclear what is happening here. Would you mind creating a new post in #1343291835845578853 and share a bit more what happened when you got this error message? What were you prompting, was it a retry, basically any information you think may be relevant would be helpful.

tired herald
#

interesting model list

#

so sad that some are locked ๐Ÿ˜ญ

light sleet
tired herald
#

Ik

#

They are not user selectable so yeah

light sleet
#

I believe that's bannable & Arena Team already has blocked API calls for direct and side by side.

light sleet
#

The banned user sent

#

?

tired herald
#

No

#

Wrote one in like 15 minutes

somber pagoda
#

would it be available some time in the future?

light sleet
#

The models aren't gone forever.

tired herald
#

Just turn userSelectable to true and youll be able to see them

light sleet
#

They're gonna bring it back with a better sustainable way.

tired herald
#

Soonโ„ข

#

I just realized the list of models feels like it triples when showing all

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

jolly hound
#

Who still uses Claude opus 3?

somber pagoda
jolly hound
#

They are too powerful so they hid all of them in battle mode, it is pretty common to get an opus model tho.

somber pagoda
#

yeah I have been getting some opus 4.7 thinking from time to time so thats good

#

but they dont know what model they are when I ask them and sometimes it says its deepseek v3.2

cedar citrus
#

what happened to the gpt image 2 models?

light sleet
#

very rare or could be removed who knows

#

It's so rare that u will think theyre removed

sullen lagoon
#

The login page hasn't been working for me today; I'm getting an error when trying to load the page on my computer. What can I do to log in?

echo aurora
sullen lagoon
#

He probado seis navegadores distintos y no tira ninguno; siempre me dicen que no pueden cargar la pรกgina. Despuรฉs me pasรฉ del WiFi a los datos del mรณvil y nada de nada, y ya no sรฉ quรฉ hacer.

graceful lantern
#

the max models are off for all?

whole sundial
graceful lantern
#

like opus 4.6 and gpt-5.4

whole sundial
# graceful lantern like opus 4.6 and gpt-5.4

yes the most expensive models (claude opus, gemini 3.1 pro, gpt-5.4, and muse-spark) have all been disabled, this is mainly due to model popularity though as other similarly expensive models are still around
this isn't like yupp's max tier where all models of a specific cost would be in its own category and all models in said category would now be disabled for all users, this is mainly demand-based mixed with costs

sullen lagoon
#

@echo aurora Iโ€™ve tried a few times, nothing works.

echo aurora
limpid plover
#

Why donโ€™t I have the AI models that everyone else has? Can someone please help me?

whole sundial
#

but there is a new usage system coming soon that should bring those models back

echo aurora
sullen lagoon
jolly hound
analog aspen
analog aspen
#

@tired herald i dont see userselectable

#

when opus models are coming back

tame mason
#

Yo, is claude opus 4.7 in solo chat?

fossil socket
#

Istg this super strict tos violation is gonna give me an aneurysm

magic shuttle
#

hello guys, who i can wear the claude opus 4.6?

fossil socket
#

Why the hell did you have to double the finnickines for Claude models

#

Omfg

sharp mirage
#

/me message:

still musk
#

A question: but from what I see, GPT Image 1.5 looks like it's like GPT Image 2, because I said I wanted to do a news report for my Italian news program and it did it for me. Aren't they upgrading it?

sharp mirage
#

Hi

#

How can i share my website lol

sharp mirage
echo aurora
echo aurora
tired herald
tired herald
light sleet
#

I finally made brave browser my default browser

#

It's the best for me

#

Smoothest, cuz my default Huawei Browser was lagging in arena, and brave doesn't lag in arena at ALL.

loud herald
#

I use operaGX, but it needs fixing atp

#

Anything that uses a decent amount of ram on that just kills it

light sleet
#

brave has been my personal fav since its simple, has the best security, and might be the smoothest browser

#

In android

#

and other mobile os

sharp mirage
#

btw

#

who have the biggest context window ?

#

like and good and coding ?

pine veldt
#

Its stuck on a bugit keeps generating but never finishes, How can I force it to stop?

sharp mirage
#

click the stop button

pine veldt
#

it doesnt work obviously

#

thats why i am asking

light sleet
#

Trust me

sharp mirage
#

refeash the page

light sleet
#

But yeah try it

#

Use a slow model so the stop button doesn't disappear

sharp mirage
light sleet
#

Np

#

@echo aurora see pineapple my method worked ๐Ÿ˜Ž

light sleet
#

4.7

echo aurora
light sleet
echo aurora
#

But this is really helpful to know, thank you for sharing @light sleet I'll keep this is mind when others are having problems

sharp mirage
#

oh man i got gemini pro but tell me i need credit card

#

lol

#

i dont have one

echo aurora
echo aurora
sharp mirage
#

arena dont have subs :

echo aurora
#

Thought it was saying that in the response or something like that

sharp mirage
#

yea my bad

pine veldt
#

@echo aurora

echo aurora
pine veldt
#

Do you know when they'll implement the credit system and we'll be able to use Claude Opus 4.7?

light sleet
# echo aurora Lol in Arena it did that?

I figured the fix out by giving up on an infinite generation bug (remember the shade thing I was doing and it hit infinite generation ๐Ÿ˜ญ), so I gave up on the session and created a new one and after prompting, I accidentally clicked back on the old session which had the bug and saw stop button, I tried it again and it was working then I realized I found a cure ๐Ÿ˜ญ

pine veldt
light sleet
sharp mirage
#

::/

vernal raft
#

Pineapple, if you eat a pineapple, or an other fruit, is it cannibalism?

light sleet
sharp mirage
#

yo

#

wsg

light sleet
#

I'm good wbu

sharp mirage
#

chilling

light sleet
sharp mirage
#

bro

#

gta 5 on phone beforfe gta 6 :/

light sleet
#

lol idk why I keep sending same images

light sleet
loud herald
#

Its insane that its genuinely hard to tell

light sleet
#

lol

#

it's gonna get crazier ngl

#

would you believe this too, (I WOULD DEFINITELY FALL FOR THIS)

#

Cuz it's so good like it knows what fits a backbling, gliders and emotes

loud herald
#

News outlets were talking about how its unsafe that nano banana 2 was so good and now we have this

light sleet
loud herald
#

Wasnt stranger things already collabed?

cold knot
#

hi so i have a Question to ask. when are we getting zip file uploads to arena?

light sleet
loud herald
#

I see

light sleet
#

But I didn't see any character

#

Or cosmetics

#

Soo

echo aurora
loud herald
#

Its insane thoughj

light sleet
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

echo aurora
#

Sry which model was this?

light sleet
#

duct tape

loud herald
#

DUCT TAPE

#

!

light sleet
#

maybe it can also make fortnite collab with the produce squad

#

hold on that's a great idea, time to farm battle

loud herald
#

LOL

sharp mirage
#

o yeah

loud herald
#

Didnt openAI release gpt image 1.5 not too long ago?

echo aurora
sharp mirage
#

i change my name

#

is it now better

#

๐Ÿโœจ๐“Ÿ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐“ช๐“น๐“น๐“ต๐“ฎโœจ๐Ÿ

๐ŸŒธ๐Ÿ๐’ซ๐’พ๐“ƒ๐‘’๐’ถ๐“…๐“…๐“๐‘’๐Ÿ๐ŸŒธ

๐Ÿ๐Ÿ’›๐“Ÿ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฎ๐“ช๐“น๐“น๐“ต๐“ฎ๐Ÿ’›๐Ÿ

#

for pineapple

whole sundial
echo aurora
light sleet
#

Can duct tape accept reference images

uneven lance
#

In artificial analysis intelligence index Opus 4.6 was lagging behind gpt 5.4 pro and Gemini 3.1 pro

Now Opus 4.7 catched up with it's peers

sharp mirage
#

thx

light sleet
#

Hard to notice.

uneven lance
#

Also Opus 4.7 just got a +1 score i don't know but models scores are much less increasing text arena

#

Maybe for text based tasks we are reaching a wall?

sharp mirage
#

btw pineapple how can i copy arena css ?

light sleet
#

Wait no lemme send in produce lot

sharp mirage
#

lol

echo aurora
# pine veldt whyy??

There are a few reasons. Being we haven't yet ironed out all of the questions we have on how it's going to work. It'll take a bit of time to develop, and how long that develop process can take isn't super clear. There can be shifting priorities, or unanticipated variables that can either extend, or decrease, the development time.

light sleet
echo aurora
#

Hbu?

sharp mirage
#

@echo aurora i fixed the rtl

sharp mirage
light sleet
#

Mines minecraft too

sharp mirage
#

what type of minecraft player u are ?

light sleet
#

og player and more of a experimental player

#

And builder

echo aurora
#

As someone dabbles in gaming it pains me to say, but would like to note to try and relate it to AI ๐Ÿ˜ญ

sharp mirage
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

ember hare
#

I have Claude 4.6 yesterday but it's not anymore and what about Claude 4.7?

loud herald
echo aurora
loud herald
#

Yea I've been seeing them there as well

modest topaz
ember hare
#

Yes exactly yesterday I was able to sent a prompt to Claude 4.6 but today I can't, and Claude 4.7 is not in battle mode

loud herald
sharp mirage
#

alr

#

i cya all soon

#

i gtg

#

bye

modest topaz
loud herald
#

Goodbye cherry

modest topaz
#

This

ember hare
sharp mirage
modest topaz
#

Can you try this?

#

Please

#

This can bring back opus 4.6 model in direct chat

loud herald
loud herald
sharp mirage
#

well i can but i dont want to break the website

#

or something

modest topaz
#

I havenโ€™t done anything. arena

#

๐Ÿ˜ข

loud herald
echo aurora
sharp mirage
#

bye yall

echo aurora
sharp mirage
#

cya soon all

#

GN

spare rune
#

omg did pineapple score

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

son

indigo knoll
#

Gpt 2 image is on Arena?

remote dove
#

Hey

#

So i got a problem, I'm not seeing other versions of claude like claude opus 4.6 or 4.7 nor 4.7 thinking

#

Oh wait

#

Bro

#

It used to be in direct

whole sundial
whole sundial
crude anchor
whole sundial
crude anchor
#

They will be credits, but now comes the main part: will they give daily credits or will they be credits that cost dollars (more expensive for me, as I am Brazilian), and will there be any option to choose from, even the ones from video

whole sundial
#

you can use them on any model, obviously more expensive ones like video will cost more

crude anchor
#

Compressible video files cost more

remote dove
#

This is complete bs

thick pawn
#

Is Autobear a model that's known about? Just got my first ever image with it

obsidian cargo
#

haven't come across it yet so must be new

whole sundial
thick pawn
#

I like the image I got

remote dove
remote dove
thick pawn
#

I took offense and now, well I guess I'm not ๐Ÿ˜†

whole sundial
#

yes autobear is by alibaba/qwen

#

both models share the same China AIGC (AI Generated Content standard, legally required) ContentProducer and ContentPropagator strings (001191330106MA2CFLDG4R10001)

radiant turtle
void summit
#

whats wrong with this?

remote gulch
#

Bring them back! Pls!!!!!!!!!!

narrow sigil
#

Where are muse spark? It was very good with vision