general

[echo aurora]

Kinda crazy how similar they are

[pseudo hemlock]

pineapple who do you listen to

[echo aurora]

I'm sure there is a good fit

[pseudo hemlock]

learn on the job

[echo aurora]

Maybe one day I'll enable my spotify connection

[fossil socket]

Mfw I see the new update:

[pseudo hemlock]

Does arena take donations?

[fossil socket]

At this rate I might as well just wait next year until opus is back at direct

How disappointing

[pseudo hemlock]

Try Battle mode

you've got a good chance at getting opus 4.7 rn

because its new

[quaint lily]

will arena someday have a better ui? sometimes the ui is pretty bad placed whit copy prompt beign always on center pretty annoying since if you have a big prompt you need to scroll a lot up, same for copying the script of ai response if it's big i need to always scroll a lot it's pretty annoying. also the general ui look i don't like it a lot i think putting on settings a list of themes

[pseudo hemlock]

you can make recommendations in #1372230675914031105

[sharp mirage]

Oh man my luck.

Just when I asked to say hi /;

[quaint lily]

it's not luck it's always every time you use battle mode basicaly right now

[pseudo hemlock]

wdym your luck bro

you asked it to say hi and it did it 😭

[sharp mirage]

like why claude :/

[pseudo hemlock]

didn't you want claude bro

[whole sundial]

yeah i looked at all of them, they all want either at least 4 years of experience in a field (once again, i am still young, my interest in ai started in late 2023) or a phd (once again, just graduated hs and haven't enrolled in any school yet although I am planning on doing so eventually)
also btw almost every position calls the platform "LMArena" still

[sharp mirage]

i want it but want it just say hi :/

[pseudo hemlock]

why not throw your hat in the ring?

worst that happens is they say no sorry

[sharp mirage]

nvm i got it agian

;p;

lol

bruh i cant keep it for the next msg right ?

[fossil socket]

I tried and the next message changed models

Uh yeah

I'll just wait out my next year idea then

[pseudo hemlock]

bruh its not 100% chance

[fossil socket]

Well, I'm not a gambler

[pseudo hemlock]

gambling is bad kids

[sharp mirage]

how say i am gambling lol

[fossil socket]

Anyways as said, I'll wait then

[pseudo hemlock]

alright cya later

[sharp mirage]

claude-opus-4-7-thinking for next time lol

[restive crypt]

bro cant see there where i can see it

[jolly hound]

Making it not available for Side by Side is pure evil...

[restive crypt]

shiiii

[sharp mirage]

my luck 🤞

[jolly hound]

Why do the thinking models do worse tho?

[echo aurora]

More roles will open up, so I would keep an eye on it.

[sharp mirage]

in battle arena

[pseudo hemlock]

Currently the smart people are working through revamping the limits so they'll be back at some point

[restive crypt]

fahh cant use in text

tf

[sharp mirage]

you can

[pseudo hemlock]

Use battle, you've got a good chance of getting opus 4.7 because its new

[whole sundial]

hopefully they will, this server needs another pineapple eventually

[echo aurora]

This boils down to preference. I've seen some users mention if a model overthinks it can hurt the generation overall. Latency too.

[still musk]

I don't understand why he's still stuck here

[restive crypt]

hehe also got it in first try

[pseudo hemlock]

PineappleAI would go crazy

[whole sundial]

or maybe soon since the one we have is overwhelmed with "where's opus 4.6/4.7?"

[pseudo hemlock]

See lol

[sharp mirage]

yeah

ig they add it to arena

[pseudo hemlock]

@echo aurora do I have permission to use everything you've ever said for training data

[restive crypt]

shhhh

[shrewd citrus]

is there a 4.7 search

[still musk]

Come on, GPT image 2 will be released tomorrow!!!!!!!!

Maybe!!

[shrewd citrus]

cause I literally never use the normal models

[restive crypt]

yes if you aare paid usrr

[restive crypt]

we have nano 2

[jolly hound]

It's insanely good with text in images...

[shrewd citrus]

nano 2 got nerfed bad

[shrewd citrus]

so it probably means nano 2 pro is coming

[jolly hound]

🧐

[echo aurora]

also btw almost every position calls the platform "LMArena" still
Good callout

[whole sundial]

I hope so because i only got like 3 images out of arena for that model a few hours ago when I tried it before i reached my ip modality limit

[echo aurora]

I'm okay with it, not sure if Discord would be lol

[restive crypt]

hey is the 4.7 avable for direct text chat

[jolly hound]

Why did you guys even change it tho? 😭🙏

[pseudo hemlock]

i wont tell if you dont

[fossil socket]

They're determining if they have the money to do so

[shrewd citrus]

holy

[fossil socket]

Currently they don't have the money

[echo aurora]

Currently it's only in Battle

[restive crypt]

bruhh ai comapnies pay their api costs

[echo aurora]

TBD if/when it'd land in Direct/Side

[shrewd citrus]

a social media manager earns £140k a year???

[restive crypt]

any idea maybe goona release in chat

[shrewd citrus]

guessing that’s what your probably getting @echo aurora

[restive crypt]

us 0

[shrewd citrus]

let me know if there’s a free spot available 😭

[whole sundial]

yeah i think the arena ai support bot is just not great, when you ask it certain things like things about video arena it will get into an infinite loop even if you try to change the subject

[echo aurora]

The new usage system we've mentioned may allow us to do this, and bring back models that were removed.

[jolly hound]

I heard Mistral 2.5 is better.

[echo aurora]

Yeah it's a bit hit or miss.

[golden ocean]

Claude

[echo aurora]

More info on the rebrand can be found here: https://arena.ai/blog/lmarena-is-now-arena/

[restive crypt]

when it will be release in this month or next and secondly its the credit system right?

[whole sundial]

the good thing about it is that it's multilingual so it can help some people more than a person that can primarily only speak english

[restive crypt]

love

[echo aurora]

I don't have an ETA sorry to say

[still musk]

I have an idea but I don't know if it's possible: but if by chance can someone who is experienced in adding duct tape in DIRECT CHAT instead of Battle mode?

[restive crypt]

np but like you are mod here little bit idea

[whole sundial]

also 2 videos per 24 hours? it will probably be 1 soon lol

[shrewd citrus]

It’s 3 no?

[still musk]

Sorry, the image are only 50 minutes long and the videos are 24 hours long? HAHAHAHAH

[sharp mirage]

i told you guys

they add pineapple ai to the website

[jolly hound]

I feel like direct mode and side by side will be removed in the future.

[pseudo hemlock]

he's an openai model?

[whole sundial]

they should've added this a long time ago, making stealth models battle mode only doesn't help their inference costs especially now since it only appears like once every 15 gens

[sharp mirage]

idk i found it in arena

[pseudo hemlock]

DAMN ITS A STRONG MODEL

[shrewd citrus]

idk bro it’s below 3 flash 😭

[jolly hound]

Strong in text?

[pseudo hemlock]

nah strong in real life, like deadlift, bench, etc.

[sharp mirage]

nvm i fix it

[still musk]

It doesn't come from me

[jolly hound]

Are message loggers banned?

[sharp mirage]

@echo aurora now its on the top

PineAppleAI is good ngl

[sharp mirage]

i got you bro

[thick pawn]

I don't see it yet either

[jolly hound]

@echo aurora can we have a mobile app creator in Arena?

[still musk]

Maybe tomorrow is the right time for GPT image 2???

[sharp mirage]

idk

ig tmrw pineapple image 2

[whole sundial]

you've heard of PineAppleAI-Thinking, now get ready for...

[sharp mirage]

yea i got it also

[still musk]

REAL??

GAHAAHAHAH

[echo aurora]

Lol

Going to climb those leaderboards

[echo aurora]

I'd recommend using Code Arena for website creation (https://arena.ai/code), we do want to expand Code Arena's capabilities.

[quaint lily]

it always want to do website make it also not only for website but for example rust projects ecc.

[jolly hound]

I just ate a pineapple today.

[quaint lily]

whit no preview ofc

[proud bobcat]

So we all agree that opus 4.7 is kind of ass

Right

[thorny schooner]

That seems to be the case even if I haven't had the chance to use it yet personally

[void summit]

there's no pineappleai on my end though]

[fossil socket]

It literally just released

[fast dew]

It is lol

The answers r so short

[fast dew]

So?

[fossil socket]

But yeah

The messages are short

[thorny schooner]

Not going to lie it cracks me up every time I see someone get a complaint a day not a few moments later someone says it's just kiss voice I don't know why but secret events always makes me cracked ery time I see it don't know why

[proud bobcat]

Enough consensus in the first few hours

Claude subreddit is dogging on it

And they did a stealth price hike

[fast dew]

I literally have no idea what you just said

[thorny schooner]

Now that I think about it it's actually damn impressive consensus has come so quickly for the internet or Discord in this case lol

[fossil socket]

Ok that's just scummy

[thorny schooner]

And I'm not going corrected lol

[proud bobcat]

Claude was not the savior after all

😔

[undone saffron]

@echo aurora
I just learned how cookies work, and exposing a Supabase user's index is dangerous

[fast dew]

4.6 is better than 4.7

[proud bobcat]

What does this even mean

[frozen arch]

is opus 4.7 good?

[fast dew]

He just speaking BS

🤣

[proud bobcat]

Apparently not

[fossil socket]

Apparently not

[thorny schooner]

I was just talking about how I don't know why I find it funny with how many times I have seen someone complain about the AI almost always if only a few minutes after someone says it just disreleased I don't know why I think it's just a sequence of events i find funny

[fast dew]

Oooh

That was some sync

[frozen arch]

not as compared to?

[modern wedge]

So its same like 4.6?

[fast dew]

No its worse

[proud bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/an-iq-too-high-raven-crow-tiktok-gif-3869671553367641450

[fossil socket]

No not really, 4.6 is way better

[proud bobcat]

Opus 4.6

Kind of crazy

First regression in a Claude model

[thorny schooner]

Oh I don't know maybe it's something called spelling ( if you have it)

[fast dew]

If this model gets rated higher than 4.6 its rigged

[echo aurora]

Sorry to say I'm not familiar with what this is, can you explain further?

[modern wedge]

Bruh yall really save my money

[proud bobcat]

Our last hope is DeepSeek V4

[fast dew]

Spud

[pseudo hemlock]

new model

omg

[echo aurora]

[hollow ivy]

But is Opus-4.7 at least better than Sonnet-4.6?

[pseudo hemlock]

that took way too long

[hollow ivy]

and compared to GPT-5.4?

[proud bobcat]

LMArena trained their own ai?

[pseudo hemlock]

it beats gpt-5.4

[proud bobcat]

Well obviously yeah

And gpt 5.4 sucks anyway

[hollow ivy]

and compared to Gemini-3.1-pro?

[golden ocean]

-# But is Opus-4.7 at least better than Sonnet-4.6?

[proud bobcat]

Today it tried to tell me Arma 3 needed more than 16 gb of vram

[fast dew]

Opus 4.7. was a dissapointment bro

[proud bobcat]

💀

[fast dew]

Thats all im gonna say

[toxic verge]

😂😂

No way….

[still musk]

In my city.

Model: duct-tape-2

[hollow ivy]

So Opus-4.7 still is the best model, althought it might not be better than 4.6?

[fast dew]

??

[toxic verge]

O.o

[pseudo hemlock]

Yes, Vicuna

[whole sundial]

(in reality they actually have made their own ai models in the past, its really just qwen fine tunes but better than nothing. talking about p2l - prompt to leaderboard btw)

[fast dew]

If it's not better than 4.6 how is it the best model

[hollow ivy]

Or at least second-best, after opus-4.6?

[modern wedge]

Bro really add his own AI 😭

[whole sundial]

if you count lmsys, yes but p2l was made by lmarena itself

[fossil socket]

We need to rank it

[hollow ivy]

i mean, if 4.6 is gone, then it could be the new best, right?

[fast dew]

4.6 isn't gone though

[pseudo hemlock]

Is Arena "owned" by LMSYS?

[whole sundial]

not anymore

they broke off early last year, it's now a separate company (Arena Intelligence)

[pseudo hemlock]

ooo

ok

[hollow ivy]

I2P?

[whole sundial]

this https://huggingface.co/lmarena-ai/p2l-7b-grk-01112025

[pseudo hemlock]

it has 4 downloads 😭

[proud bobcat]

So what’s pineapple ai?

[pseudo hemlock]

sorry i have special access

[proud bobcat]

FUCKKK

NOOOO

[pseudo hemlock]

want me to send any chats to it?

[frozen arch]

ask about it

what model are u, who made u, etc.

[modern wedge]

Wait its only for several users?

[echo aurora]

Maybe it's who I've been this whole time...

[proud bobcat]

What is the superior windows kernel call translation, esync, fsync, or nysync

[proud bobcat]

Mysterious…

[toxic verge]

Why did the captcha get worst.,?

[light sleet]

banana model pls

[echo aurora]

Thanks

[light sleet]

np

[frozen arch]

this mr beast scam has been on for a long while.. like 3 years now..

[light sleet]

pineapple-1-5-thinking When?

[pseudo hemlock]

Wait @echo aurora ur like actually ok with me using your messages?

[frozen arch]

no ones faling for it

[fossil socket]

Not as bad as the NSFW server links some servers keep getting hit with

[light sleet]

arena getting hit with the turkish spam thing now

😭

[toxic verge]

They need a captcha system

[echo aurora]

We get hit with those a lot, but the automod system is way better for that compared to the mr beast scams

[frozen arch]

opus 4.7 can solve captchas

[echo aurora]

Not too sure what this entails, probably not lol

[light sleet]

the turkish spam (idk if they're related to scamming) are hitting arena the most rn.

Where are they even coming from

?

(I look stylish as banana ngl)

[whole sundial]

hacked users

[light sleet]

(don't call me nano-banana)

[fossil socket]

Macro banana

[light sleet]

ahhhh

[waxen grove]

banana of varying size

[light sleet]

all fruits related to Pineapple mog

[hollow ivy]

is Opus 4.7 good for sandbox-roleplaying games?

[whole sundial]

they click on suspicious things and their discord tokens get stolen, they can bypass 2fa by doing this btw

[pseudo hemlock]

😭

[silent tree]

yessir

[light sleet]

hi watermelon

[pseudo hemlock]

hi watermelon

[fossil socket]

What's next

Apple?

[pseudo hemlock]

can someone be waterlemon

[echo aurora]

We have an apple

[pseudo hemlock]

@shy mason

[shy mason]

yes

[fossil socket]

Oy vey

[pseudo hemlock]

hi

[fossil socket]

💀

[shy mason]

hellooo

[sharp mirage]

o now i am confrming that pineapple ai is crazy

[light sleet]

Bro woke up fast

[sharp mirage]

we also have orange

[fossil socket]

Is the damn fruit bowl in this server

[pseudo hemlock]

dayun image mode???

[proud bobcat]

WHAT IS PINEAPPLEAI

[light sleet]

no dragon fruit yet

[frozen arch]

what are you all fruit users bots

[echo aurora]

produce section expanding

[light sleet]

dragon fruit 😔

[fossil socket]

What's next eggplant?

[sharp mirage]

nah

[light sleet]

guys if u be one of us js ask me ill give u a pfp and u get the produce role 🔥

[pseudo hemlock]

how r yall making these images bruh

[light sleet]

bro

[frozen arch]

🥝

[light sleet]

already exist but no one took it ig

he innocent 😔

[frozen arch]

🍑

[silent tree]

eggplant

[pseudo hemlock]

🫑

[pseudo hemlock]

🥕

🍅

[light sleet]

available if u wanna be one of us

[fossil socket]

Cap bro's having affairs with peach

[light sleet]

EXPAND THE EMPIREEE

[echo aurora]

the bacon one

[frozen arch]

what's the orange looking one? don't tell me it's orange

[silent tree]

For real even the smile is bacon

[shy mason]

Lol

[sharp mirage]

pineapple good picture

[light sleet]

Oh yeah that's orange

[frozen arch]

no way

[hollow ivy]

@omega_fruit

[frozen arch]

oval shaped orange

[sharp mirage]

i am going to send something crazy

[fossil socket]

Do we have a Golden Apple?

[light sleet]

all pineapple people are shaped the same

[light sleet]

We're the rare kind

[hollow ivy]

gapples are awesome ^^

[frozen arch]

aight im tired

[light sleet]

U wanna be one?

I can get the surgery done

will take 1 minute

[light sleet]

Too late 😈

[sharp mirage]

ig the chat is coocked

ngl

i am Tomato

[light sleet]

Rare shaped

Only for a VIP.

[waxen grove]

i made a list of every arena.ai image bot i've encountered thus far

[sharp mirage]

I AM MVP

[light sleet]

How long did it take

[hollow ivy]

i like carrots ^^

[sharp mirage]

here you go

[sharp mirage]

btw @echo aurora we dont get baned for that lol right ?

[light sleet]

what the

That's not one of us

Way too sharp jawline

[echo aurora]

... what for

[sharp mirage]

sending this dump things

pineapple ai and this pictrures

[echo aurora]

oh

(sry I was in other chats)

yeah that's fine

go wild

[hollow ivy]

sweet potatos are also healthy and tasty

[sharp mirage]

yea

ngl there so fine

[light sleet]

yes u don't get banned

[sharp mirage]

ig i will dinner potats

[light sleet]

pineapple sigma

[hollow ivy]

i wonder if future synthetic humans will eat

[sharp mirage]

well lets make sigma pineapple ai lol

[spring oar]

adaptative thinking is very bad someone have advice ?

[sharp mirage]

use thinking

[spring oar]

?

[sharp mirage]

use thinking ont adaptive one

not*

[light sleet]

gpt image 2

?

[sharp mirage]

o hell nah

bro just have no life

[whole sundial]

nope i actually put the image into a minecraft resource pack, i could probably make it a standalone thing

[sharp mirage]

yo bro

send me rec pack

[light sleet]

kk

[sharp mirage]

i like it

i want it so baddly

[whole sundial]

right now it's just modded faithful 64x but if there is demand i can make it a standalone thing

[sharp mirage]

alr

[sharp mirage]

i just want a standalone cuz my pc fired :/

[fossil socket]

Deep fried PC 😋

[light sleet]

https://019d96e9-451c-7f3f-a825-7116a6c8d876.arena.site/

[sharp mirage]

ho

woh

nice D:

[light sleet]

opus 4.7

[light sleet]

ty

[pseudo hemlock]

this guy knows ball

faithful is goat

[sharp mirage]

marlowww crystal one is way better

[sharp mirage]

i am whondering what prompt you used for the ui

if you dont want to share it the public its okay

[light sleet]

I already did xd

[sharp mirage]

where ?

[light sleet]

Lemme find wai

[jolly hound]

Banana deserves the spotlight...

[fossil socket]

Banana is Cavendish

Where TF is Gros Michel

[whole sundial]

here's the resource pack if anyone wants (it contains no code, just a text file, a json file as required by minecraft, and the image)
proof attached (the assets folder only contains the golden pineapple image)

[undone saffron]

The user's UUID is stored in the cookie, which is saved in Supabase (database)
If someone steals a person's cookie, they can use that UUID to view information from the account

[light sleet]

finally found

Design a highly creative, unique, and premium single-page website dedicated to pineapples.

Style: Modern tropical aesthetic with vibrant yellows, greens, and fresh fruit colors. Extremely polished UI/UX, buttery-smooth animations (GSAP-level quality), scroll-triggered animations, hover effects, and delightful micro-interactions.

Fully responsive (mobile, tablet, desktop). Make it fun, informative, and visually addictive. Sections should include: Hero with animated pineapple, About pineapples, Fun facts, Varieties, Recipes, Health benefits, Gallery, and a playful footer.

Use creative pineapple-themed illustrations, subtle particle effects or floating elements, and excellent typography. The website should feel joyful, premium, and unforgettable.

[undone saffron]

}

[light sleet]

golden apple

I told him to go on a diet

he just

never listens

[sharp mirage]

ty

[light sleet]

np

[sharp mirage]

sory bro but remove it from here cuz you might get banned

cheack my pineapple

[light sleet]

I dont get duct tapes anymore

It has been over 40+ prompts

.....

no duct tape for me

😔

[sharp mirage]

:/ 😭

i found out that glm-5.0 is good for powershell codes

[light sleet]

I think they made duct tape and masking-tape WAY too rare.

They should decrease that fr

[light sleet]

Hm

what

[sharp mirage]

what ?

[undone saffron]

what?

[light sleet]

what?

[fossil socket]

What

[silent tree]

what

[waxen grove]

maskingtape is like the rarest

[light sleet]

OUR CHAIN

😭

[whole sundial]

they did, it probably costs much more for arena to provide inference for all the non-gpt image 2 images being made while people are trying to get it than it would for them to bring opus back

[light sleet]

hm

[waxen grove]

wait no gaffertape is probably even rarer

[light sleet]

openai new gpt rosalind

they released 2 stuff

• Codex update
• new gpt

[golden ocean]

gemini-4-pro-preview

[light sleet]

dudes be on Gemini 4 pro

[whole sundial]

gaffertape is gone now, only ones left are the three duct tapes and maskingtape

[echo aurora]

Okay thanks for sharing, I'll go ahead and flag to the team.

[undone saffron]

Why now everyone want to be a fruit?
Even some are doing AI videos about fruits

[light sleet]

when im in 4.5

[golden ocean]

gork-5

[sharp mirage]

Peak 🙌 :

[whole sundial]

my guess is they removed it due to high costs, the 2k models likely cost much more than the 1k duct tapes, also why they made maskingtape rare before they made both duct tape and maskingtape rare

[waxen grove]

oh

[light sleet]

nano banana never disappoints

but ig

ITS CUZ

they never delay

😔

or vague post

[waxen grove]

nanobanana's become more common i think

[light sleet]

to hype

[undone saffron]

Tell them never to store a user's UUID in a cookie or anywhere else
If it's absolutely necessary, it must be fully encrypted on the backend

[light sleet]

ayy

[whole sundial]

nano-pineapple?

[fossil socket]

Macro Gros Michel

[light sleet]

nanobanan

[sharp mirage]

well it will fixed rq ? or it take some time ? if it sometime pls contect him in the dms might someone do something

[undone saffron]

Image made with AI?

[waxen grove]

66 cobblestone

the sword's durability is offcenter

[undone saffron]

Ok, the limit is 64

[waxen grove]

the slop conglomeration

[light sleet]

Yes nano banana

[light sleet]

Looollll

Nano banana

[sharp mirage]

yea it looks relly good for ai

[waxen grove]

TIL duct-tape cannot make the sonic & knuckles title screen

it did a weird sonic 1-2-3-cd(?) hybrid

(duct-tape-3)

[undone saffron]

The fun never ends
- Majin

[waxen grove]

ermmm ackshually, it's "Fun is Infinite at SEGA Enterprises" 🤓☝️

you are thusss the greatest larp ever 🤓🤓

[polar horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-larping-coal-alarm-gem-gif-558142585063610704

[echo aurora]

I'm not sure the accuracy of this as I assume there is something I'm missing, regardless it has been shared to be looked into.

[waxen grove]

also Majin is a translation error. it's actually Mazin

[sharp mirage]

yea

[whole sundial]

i got one of the duct tapes to make me this though (windows 3.1)

[light sleet]

somethings def wrong with my acc

40 prompts

no duct tape

no maskingtape

[waxen grove]

pretty good, but

[light sleet]

today at morning and yesterday was SO MUCH BETTER

[blazing bison]

Bro arena vc money is over

[light sleet]

Consistent

[blazing bison]

It just has mini models now

[waxen grove]

it's basically this image

[light sleet]

pineapple pls tell them to make it a lil more easy to get duct tape it's way too hard now

[whole sundial]

yeah it's gotten very rare now, i got like 3 earlier before i maxxed my battle mode limit

[sharp mirage]

but i dont get it what is duct tape ?

[waxen grove]

I came hoping for Duct Tape. I got twenty Qwens and a Nano Banana

[light sleet]

same

yesterday and at morning was way more better.

[waxen grove]

ya

[light sleet]

early morning.

[waxen grove]

it took me like 10 tries to get maskingtape to do the fnaf 2 title screen

[light sleet]

like freely consistent duct tape

[waxen grove]

and even then it forgot toy chica

[light sleet]

it's been 40 tries for me now

Still not one single duct tape

[waxen grove]

proves my point that ai videos are objectively more sloppy than ai images

[light sleet]

nooo

pineapple 😭 😭

[waxen grove]

he just glides across the ground .. the sword gets replaced with a hammer .. like a quarter of the hotbar items disappear .. steve now has 13 air

[light sleet]

i NEVER used video arena in my life

whats the limit

I gotta try

😭

[waxen grove]

you could name twenty things wrong in this alone

[whole sundial]

2 per 24 hours now

[light sleet]

nano banana good but bad

[waxen grove]

it's the ai video thing

[light sleet]

basically Good-Decent

[waxen grove]

not nanobanana

[light sleet]

still

66 cobblestone

😭

[whole sundial]

and probably enforced by ip too

[waxen grove]

13 air

[light sleet]

crazy

[waxen grove]

almost no one deserves ai video atp and i am being fully serious

[light sleet]

whats time for yall

3:00am in uae

[waxen grove]

instagram reels has made it devoid of any soul

[waxen grove]

1am in the big f

ok. crackhead theory

duct-tape is less common bc it takes up more memory

n stuff

n the more ppl use it the more everything will fall apart and die quicker

[sharp mirage]

well its 2 am for me 😄

[waxen grove]

so they're usin the slop models more bc they're faster cheaper cost less n cause less death

[light sleet]

tomorrow gpt image 2 sam altman told me personally

[undone saffron]

It’s not the same for AI to focus on generating something static and paying attention to the details as it is to generate something dynamic without knowing what comes next with poor context (data)

[waxen grove]

still

[light sleet]

btw people know u as the "manifest v2 girl"

😭

In this server

[waxen grove]

yup

that is yoshi's island 2 alright

[undone saffron]

#general message

[light sleet]

Lol

change your name to manifest v2 girl atp

two wholesome kind friends that never fight.

[thorny schooner]

Just about 7:00 pm for me

[vale quest]

Lol

[sharp mirage]

nice

i saw it lol

[vale quest]

Ok might not wanna show that pineapple can track me

Maybe

[sharp mirage]

bro you make ppl pay money for you

[vale quest]

Nah im not that guy

And im still testing

[still musk]

PETITION TO GET GPT IMAGE 2 TOMORROW OR MONDAY

I'm tired of waiting

[light sleet]

I'm gonna go sleep now.

So sleepy

Bye yall.

Gn

[sharp mirage]

bye

gn

ig bro want to hack me lol Now just double-click build-and-run.bat to build, install, launch, and view logs

[undone saffron]

@vale quest
Did you delete it because you realized it was giving you an error?

[sharp mirage]

yea now i know why claude methos is dnager :/

[vale quest]

Idk I didnt test it yet

And I because if anyone sees they can like ban me or something idk

[still musk]

🤨🤨

GPT image 1.5

[grand raft]

????

[whole sundial]

"You can now generate and iterate on images with a model that is about to become obsolete (by us) next week in Codex right now!"

[echo aurora]

Take care! Thank you for all of your help producing the community today ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[polar horizon]

all this gpt 2 hype but gemini 3.1 really just as good too

[minor totem]

yoo

[shrewd citrus]

can’t wait for opus 6.7

https://tenor.com/view/hiromi-higuruma-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-son-higuruma-gif-9036947203690306241

[topaz epoch]

4.7 thinking should be added for some days

[minor totem]

yea i saw it too

[topaz epoch]

You can't use it

[minor totem]

i just did

wdym

it said 4.7 thinking

[topaz epoch]

No in direct and side by side

[minor totem]

oh ya ofc not

theyre tryna save money and encourage more rankings

[undone saffron]

😮‍💨

[mortal ether]

To be or not to be

I think therefore I am

If coding is your power, what are you without it?

Cogito ergo sum

[minor totem]

😄

[vale quest]

Bruh stupid claude opus telling me Selected model is not available for user selection

[vernal zodiac]

bruh when are they finally gonna fix or just remove this damn captcha

like even clearing cookies doesn't help anymore

[indigo knoll]

how

[sharp mirage]

:/

[vernal zodiac]

?

[sharp mirage]

idk

[vernal zodiac]

ok lol

[minor totem]

I don’t have this issue

Make sure you don’t have any user agent switcher on and are on a barebones browser

[vernal zodiac]

😭

[vernal zodiac]

lucky you

[vernal zodiac]

nah, nothing like that

[echo aurora]

Thanks @soft river that other app is on our radar. I appreciate the flag.

[soft river]

Of course ✌️

[undone saffron]

This will be arena's new human verification system
CAPTCHA will be just the first step

[soft river]

Actually there are multiple apps

I’ve seen 4 so far

If you’d like I can give the names

Given that they vary slightly

[sharp mirage]

Lol fr

[echo aurora]

I'm assuming all are already on our radar, but wouldn't hurt to share them all just in case.

[topaz epoch]

Any updates about 4.7? @echo aurora

[sharp mirage]

its good ngl

[echo aurora]

For the leaderboard? No update yet.

[topaz epoch]

Side by side and direct?

Coming or not?

[undone saffron]

#announcements message

[echo aurora]

Unlikely to be added until the new usage system is implimented. We'll have to wait and see though.

[topaz epoch]

Hmm

[sharp mirage]

yeah cuz it got overused

tbh

[undone saffron]

Have the team started working on it, or are they still reviewing users' ideas?
I haven't submitted my idea yet

[echo aurora]

It's being worked on currently

[undone saffron]

Oh..

[undone saffron]

So does that mean I don't have time to submit my idea anymore?

[echo aurora]

It's still worth submitting, we'll still want to see it.

[toxic verge]

It’s going to be the whole internet

You need a subscription to get it verified

[toxic verge]

Beautiful

[sand fulcrum]

do we need a subscription in lmarena?

how about those who cant afford it

[toxic verge]

No

[sand fulcrum]

ah

ok mb

[sharp mirage]

Finally i build it

[undone geyser]

I bet all models missing will be up in june 2026, best scenario imo

[thick pawn]

Duct Tape 2 works with uploaded photos for edits as well I just realized

[undone geyser]

When will it be up?

Gpt image 2 is it?

[thick pawn]

Yea, duct tape 2 is gpt image 2. Unfortunately only available in battle mode at the moment

[sand fulcrum]

W

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/xTbr-Ky8jtg?si=opHjI5fv9zVxtKYr

[patent spade]

Hi

[signal oasis]

Why did Arena change it so that I only get 5 images per 50 minutes per device IP? Before, the 50-minute limit was per email. Is there any solution?

[echo aurora]

This was done to prevent getting around rate limits by creating different accounts.

[signal oasis]

Will this website be paid in the future or not?

[grand raft]

the duct tapes are now very rare to summon

[whole sundial]

yeah they are much rarer than even nano banana pro 2k or nano banana 2

[echo aurora]

The new usage system we've been talking about, in this announcement: #announcements message, the idea is users are given this daily allotment of usage for free.

[stone forum]

Are there any updates with the token limits session with an alternative way?

[sharp mirage]

bruh

bro someone can just

you know what i mean ?

[surreal creek]

4.7 Thinking has been getting actively bricked by “Instruction Following” prompts it seems
ties into the cut off response thing I was talking about earlier, but when more explicitly given specific criteria to follow it just doesn’t respond

"Write a highly persuasive, 3-paragraph email to a vendor renegotiating a SaaS contract. You must obey these constraints strictly:

Paragraph 1 must contain exactly three sentences.

Paragraph 2 must not contain the letter 'e' (a strict lipogram).

Paragraph 3 must begin with a rhetorical question and end with a passive-voice statement.
Do not include any subject line, greeting, or sign-off—start directly with paragraph 1 and end exactly after paragraph 3."

^ this bricked it

"Rewrite the last paragraph to follow all of these rules exactly: use active voice only, no contractions, Oxford commas everywhere, sentences under 18 words, preserve the terms 'latency,' 'throughput,' and 'backpressure,' output in Markdown with exactly three H3 sections titled Background, Method, Results, and include a table listing every change you made with before and after."
(sent in response to a previous generation)
also bricked

[sharp mirage]

you mean jailbreaked ?

[surreal creek]

no, bricked as in does not generate a response on Arena

[sharp mirage]

o alr

[surreal creek]

this

I would stand to reason that these votes don't end up counting, since a non-response is obviously not a valid one to be considered by the Arena staff?

[sharp mirage]

yeah i see

but for now i got none of these only for gorck models

[sharp mirage]

ig its cuz a bug that don't send ur msg to the another model it just send it and don't confirm it got sent or not that what ig idrk

opus 4.7 thinking is coocking using termnal

REM Replace each file with Notepad:
notepad app\src\main\java\com\stickmanleague\game\render\PerspectiveCamera.kt
notepad app\src\main\java\com\stickmanleague\game\render\HorizonRenderer.kt
notepad app\src\main\java\com\stickmanleague\game\world\TrackSegment.kt
notepad app\src\main\java\com\stickmanleague\game\world\TrackPool.kt
notepad app\src\main\java\com\stickmanleague\MainActivity.kt
notepad app\src\main\AndroidManifest.xml

it gaving me good way to edit and save files in fast way

tbh i havent think about it in my life

[glossy coyote]

glm 5 lowk underrated for creative writing

[sharp mirage]

yea

same for glm 5.1

[echo aurora]

Thank you for sharing, taking a look now.

[limber crag]

Use a vpn? Yeah everyone's been doing that

[honest verge]

Deepseek is dead

V4 doesn't exist at this point

They had so many chances to release it

Now literally nobody uses it

[stone forum]

@echo aurora

Are there any updates with the token limits session that Is there any alternative way to continue a session 😭😭????

[sharp mirage]

bro where are kids

[echo aurora]

Wut

[sharp mirage]

guess how old am i ?

[echo aurora]

I'd rather not

[sharp mirage]

hm

alr

[echo aurora]

No updates sorry to say, your best next option is starting a new chat.

[sharp mirage]

at least i need 8 years of work to join the job :/

[echo aurora]

There will be new roles that open up

For sure keep an eye out on the board

[sharp mirage]

yea

thx

[grand raft]

man, i have to generate some images to get the tapes all over again

[frigid sundial]

Look, the whole point of the site is to review models and rate models. But now I can't review the model that just came out because he's not in live chat. Maybe you could put him in live chat, at least for a limited time?

[sharp mirage]

btw what the age lmit ?

the whole point of vote is you dont know what ai is that so you vote for who is better not to what you think is better

bye yall have GOOD DAY 🌄

[vale quest]

Pineapple

So after I wash my hands tryna get claude opus and failing

Ma brother come up to me and ssy

Say

Hay are you having problems with arena ai too

And im like no

And hes like

It keeps saying failed and a trace id

And he check the console

It say selected model not available for user selection

And I got that error 4 hours ago and i use VPN to solve it

And hes cooked

[whole sundial]

they first added this to prevent wrappers, proxies, and extensions from enabling access to stealth models that are battle mode only, seems like this is being reused for the opus removal

[nova fjord]

What is the agent mode?

[whole sundial]

@echo aurora is this a new experiment?

I assume this is some type of agentic arena?

[fossil socket]

How did you get that

[whole sundial]

but this is sorely needed, ai companies do need an arena for ai agents

idk if this is for claude code type agents, something like openclaw, or something like operator/comet/project mariner though

[viscid cloak]

haven't been following for days, is duct−tape−2=gpt image 2?

[whole sundial]

yes, same with any other model that has the word "tape" in it

[tranquil lance]

they've really ruined the site by removing the models that are actually useful.

[analog aspen]

claude opus 4.7 is released

add to lm arena!

React X if no add, React checknark if add! (vote here) (IN Direct chat)

[coral birch]

It's already in battle mode

[tranquil lance]

it wont matter

[analog aspen]

ok

[thick pawn]

Has the daily video generation limit been dropped from 3 to 1?

[whole sundial]

i know it's been reduced to 2, they might've made it 1 but that would be pretty much unusable if they did so

if they made it 1 then honestly nobody would use video arena because i doubt they would come back the next day to generate another video

ik they did this here in the discord, but that was because they wanted people to move to the website

they must be trying to reduce their spending without making everyone upset, i don't think people minded the 3 -> 2 video arena reduction that much, but they did mind the opus removal

[thick pawn]

Well half the time the generations fail to generate and you don't even get your daily generations

More then half the time really

[whole sundial]

happyhorse has 1,843 t2v votes so ig people are still using it, but probably only a few thousand daily at most

ironic considering most of the 222k members of this discord came for video arena (video arena didn't even exist when i first joined)

[echo aurora]

Oh yes 🙂

[echo aurora]

It should be 2

[kind forge]

How do I can use Claude opus 4.7 I don't see it in the listing

[echo aurora]

It’s an experiment that just rolled out. Team is very exited about this one

[echo aurora]

It’s in Battle mode, you won’t find it in Direct and Side by Side

[kind forge]

aah I see

[thick pawn]

I could only generate one today and only got one of the two videos to complete from that generation

[grand raft]

the captcha is so hard to pass 😭

[civic plaza]

Now that lots of AI’s are gone, what would you guys say is the best overall to use for roleplay?

[coral birch]

I find it weird, atleast for me, IDK how it's like for you.
So when i'm on normal arena the first three run on battle mode are without captcha, the next three are with captcha but it's easy, I just have to tick the box, the next three (and the rest) are going to ask me to pass a small test, but it's not like it's going to ask me over and over again unless I didn't do it so well
BUT when i'm in arena canary, after the first three captcha the rest are going to ask me to do captcha over and over again, and it will keep asking me to do the test over and over again too! like a softlock

[rocky meteor]

hey, did opus just come back? why is it so low in rank?

[whole sundial]

i think it will turn into max if you select it and try to use it

[rocky meteor]

it turned to sonnet lol

[whole sundial]

they must've changed that behavior for people who have opus randomly "glitch" into their model selector, i know before people got sent to the max router but ig it's different now

[sinful bramble]

Guys,isn't happyhorse ranked higher than SD2?

[whole sundial]

arena's leaderboards are based on human preference which means that people generally like happyhorse more than seedance 2

[round island]

hmm
failed prompts also count towards the limit or something

[whole sundial]

it doesn't necessarily mean that seedance 2 is better than happyhorse, it just means that people are more likely to choose seedance 2 over happyhorse, and with the margins and preliminary ranking it can and likely will change, maybe happyhorse will get on top, maybe not

[whole sundial]

for video arena, considering the limits, they should've absolutely not made failed gens count against the limit
for image and text it's not as bad since they reset every 50 minutes and the limits are higher per model but on video arena it shouldn't count

[round island]

yep
tried generating videos
all of them failed
and i hit the limit

[whole sundial]

new limit/credit system should fix this though, failed gens won't deduct credits (and they should have never counted against limits on any modality tbh)

[round island]

interesting

[whole sundial]

also they did make a dumb decision making the limit 2 per day considering that i've heard many people say that they are lucky to get one of their generations to succeed

[round island]

insane

[sharp mirage]

Welcome back

[weak dagger]

We got seedance 2.0 now!

[sharp mirage]

Bro we got animals in here also

We got chicken.cat.pineapple.carrot.orange.apple.and lot more lol

[hollow mulch]

Yo guy

[sharp mirage]

Wth is that pfp

[signal pelican]

it's some guy's mouth?

[hallow siren]

Anyway to test the new opus 4.7 ? Hence arena has removed opus models is there any other platform which provides it ?

[signal pelican]

play the lottery

(battle mode only)

[whole sundial]

i prefer to call it ai model gacha instead

[faint willow]

are we sure this is gpt image 1.5

last time I checked it wasn't this good

[thick pawn]

I noticed it was giving me really good results as well

[faint willow]

yeah it has to be some sort of mistake

[last trench]

Only 1 video in battle mode in day?

[honest verge]

LMarena was the best time of arena

I also miss YUPP

Such underrated thing

[waxen bridge]

bro Max is only using Gemini at this point, what the hell do i do

[mortal oak]

hi all

[grand raft]

the tapes can be rarely appear on battle mode

[robust cobalt]

Yes, because output isn't 9:16

[grand raft]

i felt bored right now

[undone saffron]

@velvet furnace

whick ai can generate adult pic or video?
Why would you want to do that?

[kind junco]

why don't I see opus 4.6 and 4.7

[compact flame]

Because you can't

They're battle mode only

[dense sphinx]

Because they too scared

[still musk]

Good morning, maybe today is the right time to have it released, otherwise I'll make my peace with it and when it comes out, it comes out and I'll try it

If they release GPT image 2 and put it in direct chat on Arena AI I hope I can die in peace

Ahahah

[kind junco]

What

[subtle rose]

They in Battle mode only, not in Direct chat

[ocean vortex]

They are likely too expensive to cover the cost for lmarena when Anthropic aren't doing that. Those 2 models are easily the most expensive ones per request. They are also very popular which only exaggerates this further

[vale quest]

Check me out

You cannot fake ts

I find glm 5.1 much better than claude sonnet honestly

[ocean vortex]

I don't have it huh

[vale quest]

I made claude opus 4.7 userselectable

And turned off disable opus feature flag

It doesnt work tho

[vale quest]

And this is fake

Claude mythos would have file handling or image handling and also is not released yet

[ocean vortex]

yeah so you don't really have it lol

[vale quest]

Ye

Too bad client doesnt pick a random model id

I could have intercepted anonymous battle payload and changed the model ids to claude opus

[ocean vortex]

I wonder what's with Sonnet 3.5... have they just forgotten to remove it

[ocean vortex]

doesn't seem to work and this would have been the only place it's still accessible

[velvet furnace]

why i don't have opus in direct?

[ocean vortex]

3.7 works so that's not bad either. But to be fair it's still accessible on Azure so it's not THAT unusual

but 3.5 would have been for sure. Not avail anywhere enterprise or not

[ocean vortex]

read above we literally just talked about this

[velvet furnace]

no,somebody have opus in direct

[ocean vortex]

incorrect

They only got it by messing with front-end code, it doesn't actually work for chatting

[short sluice]

i hate this

why did they change the ui

i dont need to have it shoved into my face

[vale quest]

Hey yalls I think i found how to get this

Hold on though

[strong ferry]

PLEASE GIVE US OPUS 4.7!!!! 😭

[supple iris]

Available in battle mode

[strong ferry]

But I've been spamming since yesterday and never got it once 😭

[fiery geyser]

Hey everyone — I’m currently open to remote opportunities and wanted to introduce myself here.

I’m an AI systems / backend engineer with experience building production-ready LLM products, backend infrastructure, and scalable automation systems.

Most of my work has been focused on practical AI use cases like:

• AI customer support systems
• Booking / workflow agents
• RAG pipelines
• API integrations
• Backend systems built for scale
• Reliability fixes (rate limits, retries, failures, cost control)

I’m especially useful when something already exists but needs to actually work in production reliably.

I’ve worked with Python, FastAPI, TypeScript, PostgreSQL, Redis, OpenAI / Anthropic APIs, Docker, and distributed systems.

If anyone here is building something interesting and needs someone technical who can execute fast and solve messy real-world problems, feel free to message me.

Happy to connect either way.

[storm dust]

guys is battle mode slow for you all too?

is it supposed to be slow

oh this is cool

i like this

[storm dust]

nvm it was broken i hard refreshed

[vale quest]

Borrrinnggg

[covert totem]

Peak 🔥 but Peak at Using my Ram also

[vale quest]

Okay be real tf is hofburg_5

Its some random model appearing in battle

[light sleet]

Np

[covert totem]

The site is tripping

High aaf

[covert totem]

asf*

[storm dust]

i saw hofburg_4 today and it understood a simple task as a "do-all" thing 💀

you can check in #codename-discussion

[dry ginkgo]

hello im new here

[uneven cypress]

Guys is Claude opus 4.7 in search mode?

[grand raft]

nope

[uneven cypress]

Ok thanks

[ember niche]

hi guys

[vale quest]

Hey yalls

So

Im about to reveal a lot

[light sleet]

?

[vale quest]

Guaranteed the credit system is coming

They're testing battle in direct

There will be purchases

And billing

Most likely for the credits

[light sleet]

They won't.

[vale quest]

There might

[light sleet]

They didn't mention a purchases

[vale quest]

I saw some stuff in their backend

[grand raft]

i really like the gpt-image 2 so much

[vale quest]

Why is it out yet

[grand raft]

idk

[vale quest]

There will be a full stack code arena

If not already there is one

[grand raft]

it is rare, its like lottery, if you found duct tape models, you just hit the jackpot again

[vale quest]

I got claude 4.7 4 times in a row

Thats lucky enouth

Enough

I got base thinking thinking base

[grand raft]

good thing this server is good ngl

[short sluice]

bro you can literally only decipher one word in the prompt

[red chasm]

It's all great - they released Opus 4.7, but when will they give us back Gemini 3.0/3.1 and GPT 5.4?

[short sluice]

i think opus 4.7 is just pre-nerf 4.6 with some modifs so this poll is invalid

[red chasm]

We don't have the opportunity to compare 4.6 and 4.7 yet.

We'll see when they return it.

[short sluice]

i havent tried it but didnt the announcement just copied the 4.6 numbers

[spring oar]

Someone have problem with adaptative thinking in claude . ai ?

[ocean vortex]

4.6 (whatever imagined version of it you have in mind that performed the best - there was only one in truth) is simply worse than 4.7 in nearly every single area. Not significantly worse but worse.

[vast fern]

where can i use seadream 4.5 for free

any platform like credit basis

[short sluice]

true but still

[ocean vortex]

This whole talk of "nerfing" needs to stop lol

You can't "nerf" a model and then have it also perform better in all the scientifically proven ways 🤷‍♂️

[spring oar]

4.7 is definitively better juste bug with adaptative thinking

[neat apex]

By far i know, 4.7 must be a evolution of that "summirizing long texts" training they were making ya?

[neat apex]

Maybe thats why they gave it to you lmao

[vale quest]

Ye

[neat apex]

If they knew i rather qwen 3.6 i would have that

Glm 5.1 is hella good yes? I will give a try

[tame anvil]

Hi

[hollow mulch]

Hello did i miss anything?

[spring oar]

After a while, in Claude.ai, with Adaptive Thinking, it even starts to think through complex questions

[civic plaza]

I really hope they get Opus on direct again soon

[unreal condor]

finally... Its out

[light sleet]

but then u realize.. It generated itself releasing..

[abstract hinge]

@echo aurora How is the new Claude Opus performing in the rankings? Is it doing well?

[grand raft]

XDDDD

[storm dust]

the generation is impressive tho

[light sleet]

duct tape is basically unusable in arena now

BRO 70 PROMPTS

AND

Still

No duct tape

[grand raft]

duct tapes needs to be useable again 😭

like it will spawn randomly, like the bolbot

[uneven cypress]

Does arena ai use real ai models api key like Claude, chatgpt etc?

@everyone

[zealous sparrow]

duct-tape 1 was removed from arena yesterday

duct tape 2 and 3 prob still there but the chance to appear prob got put very high up

they are still on the arena chances are just changed probably

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1345833012130091140/1357812371158208754/togif.gif

[hidden elk]

I agree with you
I felt so sad when it had been removed

[loud herald]

New model mysteriously appeared on openrouter

100B parameters

$0 per million tokens

And beating the best paid models on the board

[light sleet]

spud? "

[storm dust]

which one?

[loud herald]

Elephant

[loud herald]

Spud is 10T parameters

10x bigger than this model

People are saying its a deepseek model, others saying its a kimi model

EIther way I think its a chinese model

[storm dust]

oh i thought that it is openrouter's ai or smth

just like max

[brisk turret]

How is that ranking determined?

[loud herald]

Benchmarks I presume

[loud herald]

No, it likely says that because its anonymous

[storm dust]

i have heard of elephant i think

[light sleet]

Same

[brisk turret]

What benchmarks? Can you link to this page BTW

[loud herald]

Its on open router leaderboard

Hmmm the one I see has elephant at number 8 with much less tokens

It is indeed a stealth model

[valid bloom]

@light sleet when yall planning on doing the direct use of video arena or even sidr by side, its literally been a year, is there no hope

[loud herald]

Why would he know he isnt an owner or moderator

[valid bloom]

he has contacts

[loud herald]

??

Vince has no say in what happens nor does he know lmao

Hes a normal member in here

[valid bloom]

damn i thought he was @echo aurora

my bad

its been alot since the last time i msged here

[pine veldt]

When using battle mode, how can I tell which AI model I've been assigned?

[cerulean shuttle]

is happy horse superior to nano banan pro ?

[valid bloom]

isnt happy horse a video model

[brisk turret]

It's supposed to be a blind conparison

[valid bloom]

@echo aurora when yall planning on doing the direct use of video arena or even sidr by side, its literally been a year, is there no hope 💥💥💥💥

smh

[pine veldt]

I got one that's really good, and I want to know which one it is in case I can try it out in a direct chat with just that AI

[valid bloom]

they greedy asf they wont let u use direct

[pine veldt]

oh ok

[open gulch]

I'm pretty sure pineapple is just a corporate mouthpiece and not much else

[valid bloom]

i know he atleast has contacts with the team right

im not sure if he ever inform the team whatver we ask for 💔

[pine veldt]

I got it in battle mode

lol

[open gulch]

Damn

[pine veldt]

It's crazy opus 4.7

[open gulch]

Im pretty just he's just here so that we think we have a middleman to contact the dev team

[valid bloom]

we need gpt image 2

[light sleet]

Fr 😭 😭

[pine veldt]

They don't care what you want the moment something becomes even slightly more expensive like opus4.6 they remove it

😵‍💫

[open gulch]

Lmao

[valid bloom]

i mean atleast they arent as greedy as the other websites

they deadass ask u for a credit card after one try

[open gulch]

I'm pretty sure the only models that would be in direct mode in the future are ones that are just... either already free or already open source

[pine veldt]

That's true, we use free AI models but even so with the money they'll earn they could at least include Opus 4.6

[silent tree]

hi Vince

[light sleet]

hello

[valid bloom]

they get ton of money from their site do u realise ts

[silent tree]

@echo aurora I never got the produce role 😔

[valid bloom]

js for testing the models

[silent tree]

truly unproduce 😔

[light sleet]

produce flex

[open gulch]

Ik but eveb then there's no way that its costing THAT much money to run frontier models if they getting paid to test it

[light sleet]

Is elephant good??

[open gulch]

Idk haven't tried yet

[pine veldt]

fr

[light sleet]

lemme integrate it into a website by arena