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[echo aurora]

The message outlined in this message are the recommended steps to take: #1417174113092374689 message If the troubleshooting steps don't work, be sure to follow steps #2 and #3.

[golden ocean]

true

[wise hill]

ive already read it, also already tried on new account on different browser but still the same

still the same

wtf is really happened?

[verbal marten]

Pls help idk whats happened

[wise hill]

man now happens on all model lmao gg

[echo aurora]

I don't see any jamdevs submitted today, if you could follow step #3 from that message that'd be very helpful to identify what is causing this error.

[echo aurora]

Where are you seeing this?

[verbal marten]

When i tried loggin

[echo aurora]

Going to move this to a different thread, but quick question are you seeing this on all web browsers?

[verbal marten]

Its solved now thanks for your attention

[undone saffron]

The possibility of adding audio as well?

[broken horizon]

just now ok

then error again

[echo aurora]

It's going to be random if the generation has audio or not. Not all models have audio support.

[feral crypt]

Guys show me some of your project

[wise hill]

already did, i never use any external tools

already try to use on my android but still the same tho

with new account

isnt the problem from the model itself? @echo aurora

ah my bad

wait i use the tools to capture the bug

[light garnet]

I think I have been shadow-banned from Arena,

[wise hill]

already did pls check it @echo aurora thank you sir

[light garnet]

With the CAPTCHAs.

And how even solving it doesn’t work,

[wise hill]

another browser used still the same @echo aurora

im cooked hard

[toxic verge]

This one’s cool too they don’t do anything at all. They’re completely harmless like I said, but still pretty cool effect

I got this inspiration from that Internet archive

https://wayforward.archive.org/

That’s what I was going for, but he didn’t come out lol

[wise hill]

i think this is why

[toxic verge]

Claude is wasf never makes nothing

[lilac dock]

hello

[toxic verge]

I remember now why I don’t like Claude

[lilac dock]

💀

[wise hill]

bruh claude is the best for me tbh

[toxic verge]

I feel like he’s schizophrenic or something

[wise hill]

are u experience the same?

[toxic verge]

Like paranoid I don’t know what his deal is

[wise hill]

are you experience the same issue like i did bro?

[toxic verge]

No

[wise hill]

welpt gg

im cooked

ggs

[toxic verge]

I remember like two years ago maybe a year and a half ago anthropic they had a challenge for 20 K

https://ledgerlife.io/anthropics-ai-challenge-jailbreak-and-win-15000/

Let’s see if I can find a screenshot one second from two years ago

And this is the moment I stopped using Claude

[wicked talon]

Lmao Gemini is quite a good humanzier

[toxic verge]

Those things are so flimsy, dude

So this is what the classifier look like I don’t know if you guys did this when it was out

[wicked talon]

What should I try it on

[toxic verge]

This is strategic manipulation right here. This is gaslighting. This is not a hallucination, although it could easily fall under that claim.

[toxic verge]

I think it’s TwainGPT

Or something like that

[wicked talon]

Kk

[toxic verge]

Unless you know any better ones.?

I’m not sure that is what I see videos online they said that these things aren’t really accurate

[shut bolt]

Hi

[light garnet]

Or am I reading too much into this?

[wicked talon]

Detected

[light garnet]

As I literally have been trying to use Arena.

For hours now.

And always no reply.

[wicked talon]

100% lmao

[shut bolt]

How I can generate a video pls

[light garnet]

Always a CAPTCHA and an error message.

[wicked talon]

Humanzied

[toxic verge]

I actually take that back, bro

I just tested myself on some images and the and it’s pretty spot on wtf

[wicked talon]

Lmao I'm gonna try Gemini pro to see if it can humanize

Any better against grammarly

[toxic verge]

https://arena.ai/

You go here budd

[toxic verge]

You know it’s very paradoxical here in very ironic

It’s machines, trying to detect other machines and those machine are trying to fold the other machines from thinking that they’re human

What a trip

[wicked talon]

Bro Gemini pro does worse then Gemini flash

[wicked talon]

Lmao true

I'm just tryna see how effective AI is at humanizing

[toxic verge]

Hmm

[wicked talon]

Might try ask Gemini to create a humanzier

Then try to humanize it in that

Or try to ask it to create a ai detector

Wait ima try see which ai can make the. Best detector

[toxic verge]

I wonder why it doesn’t work for you

[wicked talon]

Lemme check smth

Oh it was my adblocker

[toxic verge]

I just realized this thing doesn’t have a copy paste feature

[wicked talon]

That weird arena was getting flagged

[toxic verge]

Not really it always gets flagged. It’s super flagged on brave.

[wicked talon]

Is this backdoored?

[toxic verge]

No

[wicked talon]

Kk

[toxic verge]

I don’t even know what that means

[wicked talon]

Means you can access any chat

I make

[toxic verge]

I was trying to go for the matrix aesthetic

No, I don’t. I don’t know how to do any of that.

[wicked talon]

Hm kk

[toxic verge]

I just copy and paste things and hope they work

It’s meant to be more for like an aesthetic, kind of vibe

More than anything practical or even usable

[wicked talon]

Ah

I can't type on it tbf

Doesn't work

For some reason

[toxic verge]

Yeah, none of them work. I just realized that.

This one works, but I’ll be giving it out and stuff

[wicked talon]

It says invalid response bruh

[toxic verge]

Wtf

[wicked talon]

Wait it was my WiFi flagging it..

Not even adblock wtf

Or IP blocked

Cuz mobile data worked

I can tell what this says

[toxic verge]

Yes that the point

[wicked talon]

How do you decrypt it apart from asking ai

Do you got a tool?

[toxic verge]

https://chatgpt.com/translate

[wicked talon]

Oh translate

[toxic verge]

Ι lικξ το ξаτ яοcκ5 Ι ηаvξ βιɡ 5οcκ5 βа55β5lκ яοcκ5

[wicked talon]

Google translate failed lmao

Lmao

Gemini gets it right

What why has translate made a version of Duolingo

Lmao

Gemini AI detection works

Lmao it can actually translate it

Oh hell nah 😭

Oh wait Geminis ai detector is pulling out its bum

Lmao

[toxic verge]

So this website is an emoji combo

[wicked talon]

Kk

[toxic verge]

Hold on one second I’m Trippin sorry give me one second I’ll see what

So this is the one ChatGPT made

I didn’t believe it because the first image is in generate, but you could do this with almost anybody you could even communicate through emojis the right combination that’s kind of like a cipher

[wicked talon]

Yeah it's weird lol

Lol

[toxic verge]

It’s a trip the difference, though it makes it like the way the images and stuff gets generated

Like the way characters have an effect. It blows my mind. That’s why I like to mix and match.

[wicked talon]

Yeah

[honest verge]

What happened to deepseek

It's dead?

Like V4 is not coming

It's already mid march

[wise hill]

@echo aurora u there bros?

it work already but really slow genereate the output

and also i need to start new chat and call the model first

[wicked talon]

It's set to launch in April

[wise hill]

just generate some and stop again @echo aurora

[wicked talon]

500k basically lost

Lower actually

[echo aurora]

@wise hill I'm going to followup in #1417174113092374689

[wise hill]

alright thanks a lot sir!

[toxic verge]

What’s up with that?

[wicked talon]

Basically deepseek is expected to launch in April

That's why march is probably gonna lose

Also whats expected for v4

Image hm

[hazy aurora]

Hi everyone

[toxic verge]

Yeah, insiders would know and they would place bets

Should I make some sense thank you

[honest verge]

When the chance is below 5% you're domed

Gg

[tiny spoke]

Didn't know deepseek is still alive

[honest verge]

Why is march so empty

Compared to February it's so empty

Almost no big ai upgrades except gpt 5.4

[wicked talon]

It's one of the biggest Chinese models lol

[toxic verge]

I really wish ai had no personality

They should include a way to disable that I think.

[tiny spoke]

Yeah I know but I thought is dead because I stop hearing people use it

[toxic verge]

I totally forgot about it until you mentioned it. Maybe that is things die

[wicked talon]

Why is there 2 deepseek apps

One with 10k downloads one with 50m

[sullen notch]

Yo i couldn't get pass LMarena captach, is it because i use VPN?

[brisk turret]

btw what is hunter alpha and haeler alpha?

[arctic scaffold]

guys how to get rid of captcha? I answering right, but it keeps going and going and goind and never stops

[toxic verge]

https://discord.com/channels/1340554757349179412/1482611556184363048

[toxic verge]

@sullen notch

[wicked talon]

VPN is definitely A reason it shows but it wouldn't be the reason you couldn't get past the image selection captcha.

[wicked talon]

What do y'all rate Microsoft copilot

[toxic verge]

0

[sullen notch]

So i just right now turn off my vpn and it actually work now, seems weird imo because before hand it's okey but now it's not okey

Thanks for the help btw guys

[toxic verge]

It times you out on the back end

To stop bots from farming lol

You guys remember RuneScape?

[arctic scaffold]

Unfortunately, I have already done all this 🙁

[sullen notch]

Interesting, the thing is that i already solve the captach but it seems like it think i am still is a bot

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/B8i26g45WeY?si=2UbyPyhHcHvj9Rxt

[toxic verge]

Did you try different browser?

[sullen notch]

Seems like the server of the VPN is the problem, because it's being use by a lot of people

[wicked talon]

This is essential to prevent spam.

[wicked talon]

VPN is definitely A reason your being flagged

[arctic scaffold]

3. Chrome, Edge and Firefox

[wicked talon]

As a VPN can be used to disguise bots.

[toxic verge]

Try duck duck go

[wicked talon]

That's even worse.

[arctic scaffold]

go where?

[toxic verge]

No way

[arctic scaffold]

xD

[toxic verge]

I use it all day long doesn’t even log me out

[wicked talon]

Adblockers trigger the system.

[toxic verge]

Once in a while, throw me off

[light garnet]

I tried Opera, Firefox, and Chrome myself.

[wicked talon]

The best browser would be chrome for clean internet

And speed

[arctic scaffold]

no

worst

[light garnet]

Doesn’t work even in Chrome.

[wicked talon]

Hm how?

[arctic scaffold]

firefox is best

[light garnet]

I’ve been shadow-banned.

[wicked talon]

Doesn't Firefox default to Googles engine?

[wicked talon]

You haven't.

[wicked talon]

Also Firefox is quite valid but I believe chrome is generally better

[light garnet]

Fair enough.

[toxic verge]

DuckDuckGo

[wicked talon]

Try use mobile data.

[light garnet]

But yeah, considering CAPTCHAs.

[toxic verge]

Auto clear

[wicked talon]

That's clearing browsing data which chrome has but a little more difficult.

[toxic verge]

Works flawlessly

[arctic scaffold]

Well, it looks like I'll just have to try again later. I'm just trying to make the first image match the colors of the second one.

Anyway, thank you bro for trying to help 🙂

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/TieT1_z2Hqo?si=AMjVxmvMF8eLytwR

[toxic verge]

Oh nice you ended up making it happen

[wicked talon]

Duckduckgo would statistically get flagged

As it has an adblocker I believe.

[arctic scaffold]

?

[toxic verge]

Remember the watch handles

[arctic scaffold]

I create watch faces and use arena ai to change background colors to suit my needs. It's faster than doing it in Photoshop.

[toxic verge]

Hey man. That’s awesome that you’re able to recognize that man good for u.

That’s what it’s for, dude

[light garnet]

Thank you.

[toxic verge]

I’m not saying that I’m denying what you’re saying I believe you

[wicked talon]

Your welcome, did it work?

[toxic verge]

What I’m saying is we fall asleep for me?

Got zero problems with it. It’s the only browser that keeps me logged in even if I turn off my iPad and come back tomorrow.

Chrome, brave in safari always logged me out after a certain.

DuckDuckGo browser hardly ever logged me out

[wicked talon]

That's not normal..

[toxic verge]

That’s what I’m saying

[wicked talon]

Duckduckgo should log you out after you clear.

[toxic verge]

I can restart my iPad and I’ll still be locked in

Oh yeah, after I clear obviously

[wicked talon]

As it clears all site data.

[toxic verge]

It’ll just be easier if I show you

[wicked talon]

Restarting also shouldn't be logging you out.

By chance do you have 3rd party cookies enabled on chrome?

Should be on by default.

[light garnet]

Looks like cellular data is much better.

[wicked talon]

Yeah I thought so

[toxic verge]

Actually, it’s not important

All I know is to work for me so there’s no point of needing to try to demonstrate lol

I guess it is what it is

[toxic verge]

Yeah, maybe I have my settings all wrong. I don’t know. I could be a number of things honestly.

[empty sky]

Why not add web browse capabilities and tools to the text models

[toxic verge]

You know I’ve been pondering this for a couple weeks now, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen in my lifetime maybe not in your guy’s lifetime but I have hope sometime in the future in the future generations will not tolerate serfdom

[wicked talon]

Hm maybe.

[toxic verge]

Ditgal serfdom sucks

I hate it

I hate how people are viewed as a source of extraction of money

There’s nothing wrong with business and making money, but when you reach the point where you start incorporating annoying features and frustrating features and the only way to get out of them is by pay Walling

There’s gotta be some better way and if there’s not, maybe it’s not meant to be that profitable

For God sake, you figured out a way to charge money for words lol resolution pixels what’s next?

Key strokes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

Because if your lightbulb doesn’t ever break, you can’t sell any more lightbulbs

People wouldn’t spend money on having to buy something that already works

Forced subscription even all way back then

Does that sound like some people we know?

[toxic verge]

I wanna see you do some test

[wicked talon]

You realize business makes their stuff last less on purpose?

[toxic verge]

Yeah, I know that I’m not. I don’t have a problem with that.

[loud verge]

Bro arena has become unusable.

[toxic verge]

It was unusable there would be no bots

[loud verge]

I spend 5 minutes in human verification for 1 minute answers.

[toxic verge]

Speaking of which I’m about to go buy a subscription today I think I just need to walk to 7-Eleven

[loud verge]

Might as well use qwen.

Qwen is free.

[verbal fossil]

What the - is botbot

[loud verge]

And great.

Has folders too now.

[toxic verge]

You could always buy a shared account from someone

Little lot of services online and offer third-party services

[verbal fossil]

And who is the goat pisces-0309b?

[loud verge]

Those always get shot down in like a week.

[toxic verge]

The account or the services..?

[loud verge]

Account.

[toxic verge]

Oh ok

[loud verge]

Too many ips = misuse.

[toxic verge]

Yeah, but I forgot what they use. They use some kind of special browser.

I don’t remember what it was called

antidetect browser or a multi accounting browser

[toxic verge]

But you are right these companies aren’t stupid. They have voice to detect this even if people did manage to use it they probably have some clever way too have some anti-cheat.

That’s why I keep telling you guys manage. It’s cheaper to go get a little subscription or whatever that’s what I’m about to go deal.

You could thank the cartel for that…

[empty sky]

requests.get(url) > get AES challenge cookie > solve it > Cloudflare blocks you > use CloudScraper > hit CAPTCHA > solve CAPTCHA > browser fingerprinting detected > spin up Puppeteer > headless browser detected > add stealth plugin > behavioral analysis kicks in > add random delays > IP banned > rotate proxies > API locked behind login > reverse engineer API > API monitors bot patterns > question your life choices

[loud verge]

Aha.

[loud verge]

I remember reading about this one before.

They did something similar with razor blades too.

[brisk turret]

My biggest fear atm is deepseek making their new model more expensive than 3.2. price creep

[loud verge]

Bro

This has to be intentional.

Random battle mode never asks for human verification at all.

[normal fossil]

how can i make video like this

[loud verge]

Okay, now it's spamming human verification in battle mode too.

[dense goblet]

using https://www.lueminex.com

[normal fossil]

thanks

[broken horizon]

BROKEN AGAIN?

LMARENA is FUBAR

TO UPSCALE IMAGES: us this in gemini

Transform this image into highly photorealistic quality as if captured by professional DSLR camera with prime lens. Apply natural lighting with accurate shadows and highlights. Add authentic real world details including natural skin texture with visible pores, organic surface imperfections, realistic fabric and material properties, proper depth of field with natural bokeh. Enhance with volumetric lighting, realistic color grading, sharp focus, and physical accuracy. Turn any blurry details into physical, meaningful details. Make the picture 10-20% brighter or more pop up. Output should appear indistinguishable from real professional photography with all elements following real world physics and natural appearance at maximum resolution It shouldn't look dirty, it should look clean.

[toxic verge]

There’s no one left to hear us complain

🙁

Only to each other

[crystal mica]

I dont f*** get why lmarena cant fix infinity captcha

i literally cant use it at all

[vapid current]

I’m in the same situation. Infinite captchas keep appearing. Sometimes they get solved, but the next time I try to solve one—even if I enter it correctly—it shows a “please try again” captcha error.

than is create infinite loop

[hard cliff]

what is the best open source llm model right now?

[loud verge]

There might be a fix.

But it's tricky.

I'm trying something.

[light trail]

/"A highly detailed vintage banknote design from Bangladesh featuring three spotted deer (axis deer) standing gracefully in a natural landscape. The composition shows one large stag with antlers and two smaller deer beside it. The color palette is soft pastel tones of orange, pink, and purple with intricate engraved line art and fine guilloché patterns. The top contains Bengali script text, and the bottom right displays the denomination ‘1 Taka’. Include ornate borders, security patterns, and a blank oval watermark area on the right side. The style should resemble classic currency engraving, ultra-detailed, symmetrical, realistic texture, 4K resolution, sharp focus, no modern elements.

[toxic verge]

If you could solve this, you’d become a legend

[loud verge]

And they'll find a workaround.

:/

@toxic verge check dm

[golden ocean]

hair

[broken horizon]

gemini keep error

gemini image

anybody gat this problem aswell?

is LM arena abandonware now?

[golden ocean]

lmaooo

[void bear]

limitation

[loud verge]

Nah. I'm using image gen for the first time in weeks and nano banana pro still isn't working.

[loud verge]

I had to try like 10 times before it worked.

But I'm assuming you'll get human verification before that.

[broken horizon]

same

[broken horizon]

this one not a problem

ussualy the fix it fast

now since 2 days none change

still error guys?

[sour spear]

Qwen3.5. 27B if you can run it, it's fantastic. Or 35B-A3B, which has much better performance due to its MOE architecture. Or the small 9B / 4B / 2B models.
Just don't ask it about human rights in China or something like that, it's a propaganda machine. 😂

[rigid copper]

maybe use google flow?

[rough sigil]

glm5

good luck running that tho

[late quarry]

where is video option

[spring oar]

I love Claude, but his visual rendering is really terrible, so when it comes to diagrams and images in PDFs, he’ll do a poor job—but does that really matter for learning?

[golden ocean]

i'm a new soul, i came to this strange world, hoping i could learn a bit about how to give and take but since i came here felt the joy and the fear finding myself making every possible mistake

[rough surge]

Claude opus 4.6 thinkin keeps getting error 10 seconds after submiting prompt...

Also gpt 5.4 high is the equivalent of gpt 5.4 pro in chatgpt?

[hollow ice]

Sup guys what do you do to a chat tht is just generating, not working

[hybrid obsidian]

I think normal alternatives to Claude are Gemini and GPT High

[loud verge]

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2034171480670605780

Kol Tregaskes (@koltregaskes)

MiniMax M2.7 has been released on their website, "Beginning the journey of recursive self-improvement".
︀︀
︀︀200k context, with a "highspeed" variant, scores 56.22% on SWE-Pro.

Quoting can (@marmaduke091)
︀
MiniMax M2.7 is out on web!
︀︀
︀︀Check it out here: agent.minimax.io

**💬 5 🔁 2 ❤️ 41 👁️ 2.9K **

CunnyX · Mar 18, 2026, 7:34 AM

[fluid wharf]

"A fast-paced, high-quality cinematic commercial. The scene shows a close-up of a table. A hand pla

[shrewd citrus]

does anyone else prefer gpt 5.2 search rather than 5.4 search

like 5.2 always gets sources but it seems like 5.4 is more in a rush and chooses to use its own knowledge

which would always be worse

[void pike]

Plan rapproché d'un interview de un vieillard qui dit en français: ne nourrissons pas tout les chiens que nous voyons certains on juste besoin de force pour nous mordre

[spring oar]

actually I love Claude, but he has really bad eyesight, so I'm not sure if that makes it hard to learn from PDFs—especially ones with pictures in them?

[stray aspen]

minimax 2.7 sucks

[stray aspen]

it extracts text from pdfs

[loud verge]

Haven't noticed this yet but will keep in mind when using next time.

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2034024641023406380

Wildminder (@wildmindai)

Hunter Alpha beats GLM-5? And getting close to Claude Opus 4.6?
︀︀No way...
︀︀This mysterious model with 1M context is showing great results with openclaw and jumped into the top 5.
︀︀
︀︀claw-eval.github.io/

Quoting OpenRouter (@OpenRouter)
︀
The Hunter Alpha stealth model is now in the top 10 weekly:

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CunnyX · Mar 17, 2026, 9:50 PM

[spring oar]

What you mean by this ?

[echo dome]

i hate this type where you just select cropped square

[echo dome]

but it wastes your time by "try again" when selected motorcycles

this type is annoying

[broken horizon]

STILL FCKIN BROKEN GEMINI IMAGE

[echo dome]

what are you trying to type? (prompt)

[broken horizon]

remove base, remove BG, rocks, smoke, fire, muzzle flash, bullets, debris, clouds, wall, casing shells. Change BG to light grey

[echo dome]

some of images have general errors not gemini itself

(images models)

[broken horizon]

keep bloody error

[crystal mica]

@echo aurora fix captcha

[broken horizon]

@echo aurora fix gemini image

[zinc heron]

add me as a model

[echo dome]

if you don't want to get filtered in lmarena
you should go to original sites or host it locally or using cloud because lmarena have filters on models

[echo dome]

what

[loud verge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[deft spruce]

....TOO MUCH CAPTCHA

[zinc heron]

we love captcha dont we

[deft spruce]

and MOST ANNOYING IS 'Select All Squares'

I F'n HATE THIS

[deft spruce]

🇭 🇪 🇱 🇱 🇳 🇴

[high owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hello-chat-hello-18

[surreal zephyr]

Ai translate is agi

[molten cipher]

W

[molten cipher]

What is refrigerator 😭

[high owl]

batlle in direct or computer-use ai models?

[zinc heron]

newgen never heard of refridgiland

[high owl]

@echo aurora

[zinc heron]

[high owl]

mmm ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[loud verge]

Try using a vpn

[high owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/furby-crush-furby

[deft spruce]

.....Oh

[zinc heron]

keyword is try

if it dont work dont ask

[deft spruce]

I ALREADY TRIED

[high owl]

@high owl its me

[deft spruce]

BUT

KEEPING HAPPENING

[zinc heron]

try square root 2

[loud verge]

Idk why but vpn seems to be working well for me, lol.

[high owl]

mmm

[loud verge]

Maybe it depends on server location.

[high owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jetix-disney-xd

[loud verge]

Is this some old tv channel?

[high owl]

@loud verge idk

[zinc heron]

it is yea

disney xd kinda old

[loud verge]

That sock had secret seeds.

[high owl]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kiss-video-love-you-1

[zinc heron]

dawg how old is u

[deft spruce]

damm VPN is not working

that PREVENT the CAPCHA

[loud verge]

What vpn are you using

Try different vpns/server locations.

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2034239267052896516

Artificial Analysis (@ArtificialAnlys)

Xiaomi has released MiMo-V2-Pro, which scores 49 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index, placing it between Kimi K2.5 and GLM-5
︀︀
︀︀@Xiaomi's MiMo-V2-Pro is a new reasoning model and a significant upgrade over their prior open weights release, MiMo-V2-Flash (309B total / 15B active, MIT license), which scores 41 on the Intelligence Index. Xiaomi has not yet released the weights of this model and it is currently only available via Xiaomi's first-party API.
︀︀
︀︀Key takeaways:
︀︀➤ MiMo-V2-Pro scores 49 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index behind GLM-5 (Reasoning, 50). It is ahead of Kimi K2.5 (Reasoning, 47) and Qwen3.5 397B A17B (Reasoning, 45). On the overall leaderboard, it places #10, just behind GPT-5.2 Codex (xhigh, 49) and ahead of Grok 4.20 Beta (Reasoning, 48)
︀︀➤ Leading Elo of 1426 on GDPval-AA (Agentic Real-World Work Tasks), ahead of peer models: On GDPval-AA, MiMo-V2-Pro places ahead of G…

CunnyX · Mar 18, 2026, 12:03 PM

[tiny jolt]

Arena plugin for antigravity when?

[loud verge]

Meanwhile arena can't get past human verification.

[zinc heron]

nice website name lmao

[surreal zephyr]

5.4 and its not even close

[tiny jolt]

depends

[loud verge]

Add grok to the poll.

[spring oar]

You are right 5.4 is good model

[loud verge]

It's the smartest model out there.

[cyan hazel]

https://sora.chatgpt.com/invite?code=V2P1R4 👀 https://sora.chatgpt.com/invite?code=V2P1R4

[surreal zephyr]

not sure vs 5.3 codex to be honest

that one was also peak

5.4 likes to yapp a lot

[daring rock]

@vocal prism Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this announcement #announcements message

[zinc heron]

lul

[golden ocean]

Language Model Arena

[peak temple]

how can i fix this?

[echo aurora]

This is a generic error that can occur for a few different reasons, so it’s difficult to pinpoint the exact cause from that error message alone. I’d recommend taking a look at [this message](#1417174113092374689 message), which goes into more detail about what may be happening and includes some steps you can try to resolve the issue.

Would also note our #ask-here channel for questions.

[echo aurora]

Sorry what do you mean by this?

[echo aurora]

Note hat we’re sharing examples with the team when users believe they’re being flagged incorrectly. If you think that applies to you, please send me a Direct Message with the email associated with your account, and I’ll pass it along for review. cc @deft spruce

[toxic verge]

Check this out they’re having a promo or something

What’s my favorite AI video generator.

I don’t know what they do to their model but their videos come out really cool looking

[wise hill]

seed dance still the best sirr

[quaint trail]

which AI model has the cheapest API credits and still performs well enough for any luau task?

[toxic verge]

Is it out?

[hoary elbow]

Not globally

It was about to come out in February 24 before they delayed it

But it was really good

[turbid swallow]

they got crippled by Hollywood basically lol

[gleaming roost]

glm

[wise hill]

is it already in my country

[quaint trail]

is kimi k2.5 any good or do i stick with glm?

[quiet crag]

Don't bother with Gemini honestly. 3.1 Pro had a disastrous launch and has been unavailable for use for most of the time or has been extremely slow to respond. It's tool calling and agentic capabilities are also bad. Though my experience with it is mostly from the gemini cli/antigravity/github copilot rather than the arena

[quiet crag]

Kimi has native image input capabilities unlike GLM or MiniMax, it depends on what you're trying to do

[quaint trail]

making games

on the blox

im learning to 3d model, and while luau seems like a simple language id rather spend the time on blender

[wise hill]

what the best model to create games actually?

[plucky island]

can anyone tell me how to avoid reCAPTCHA on every chat every time on arena? it rejects my CAPTCHA answers so many times
and it's also not letting me use the audio CAPTCHA either, that would be much faster

[bleak lake]

Claude

[quiet crag]

General best coding models would be Opus 4.6 (but it will drain your money QUICK) and GPT 5.4 (xhigh)

[wise hill]

noted, thanks sir!

[plucky island]

I can second this.
gemini 3.1 pro is very very disappointing
opus 4.6 thinking is so good but burns tokens and money, but quality

I tried putting them head to head with the same prompt, and 3.1 pro gave the most robotic prose and dialogue I've ever seen out of a gemini model

[quiet crag]

I still have a google plus sub (the 5$ one) cuz I find Gemini fine for general non-coding stuff through their chatbot but most of my work is done through GH Copilot with GPT 5.4 and Sonnet 4.6 sometimes. Though if I were to upgrade to the copilot pro+ - I would definitely use opus 4.6 more

[plucky island]

honestly feels like they lobotomized gemini

[thorny schooner]

Can vouch for that i remember when I first tried use it I immediately mentally said nope when I saw the immense difference lmao before it even fully finish

[plucky island]

antigravity lets you use claude models, so even the devs are self-conscious (to a degree) (or perhaps it just attracts people to this new ide they definitely won't kill after a while)

[quiet crag]

The problem with antigravity is that at any tier below Ultra, you get like maybe ~3 - 10 Claude prompts per day/week and that's it. The agent software is too basic and nowhere as good as Cursor or VS Code with Copilot imo

[plucky island]

in other news, I'm happy for zai and their GLM and z-image models
the competition is good, and the models are solid, nice instruction following too

[quiet crag]

Antigravity's best feature is it's unlimited Tab autocomplete on the free tier, it's somewhat competent imo.

We definitely all want the opensource gang to become good (GLM, MiniMax, Kimi, Deepseek). Deepseek has been quiet though

[reef isle]

is anyone here in riyadh?

is anyone here in riyadh?

is anyone here in riyadh?

guys

[plucky island]

true.
I've had some small scale success by making my own "agent" (simple langchain python script) and it uses whatever model I want and writes usable code
I haven't used cursor but I understand that it's probably pretty user friendly and easy to get into, and has now amassed enough capital to grow into an advanced tool

[reef isle]

is anyone here in riyadh?

bc

I jus got a missile waring

warning

or idk

something from the civil defence

[plucky island]

that's concerning if true

[reef isle]

like stay indoors

[plucky island]

but no I'm not in riyadh

[plucky island]

wonder if deepseek is secretly cooking something or they just are quiet? 🤔

[quiet crag]

V4 was supposed to come out sometime but there hasn't been any credible news on when that's gonna happen

[thorny schooner]

Does anyone know any good free AI when it comes to making characters and roleplay with relative accuracy / realism

[toxic verge]

They did. I’ve been ringing an alarm.

Gemini flash is trash as hell

[quiet crag]

Gemini's apparently only good in Google's vendorlocked AI studio

[golden ocean]

the fire alarm community

[toxic verge]

Doesn’t cooperate doesn’t do nothing

That is what cheap AI looks like

[plucky island]

unsurprised
they won the bet on 2025 but gave up afterwards? what?

[toxic verge]

Well, duh

I don’t know if you’ve been looking around way the community behaves

They always fall for it

[plucky island]

what's the last good usable gemini model left? I heard they pulled one of the older gemini pro preview models

[hollow mulch]

https://openai.com/en-EN/index/introducing-gpt-5-4-mini-and-nano/
Guy new model for gpt 5-4

[toxic verge]

API

[toxic verge]

High volume api agent calls 😂

[quiet crag]

Waiting for Google to drop 3.1 Flash. If it's like 90% as good as 3.1 Pro but it can actually work properly without hanging or being down - it would be a success (especially if they fix tool calls and agentic coding)

[toxic verge]

It won’t

Makes no sense financially

[plucky island]

yeah, people keep making videos saying "it's over" or "google won" or "nvidia won"
what gives? nothing final has happened yet, and they haven't made any breakthroughs so why all the glazing? sponsored probably

[plucky island]

which. one.
model name.

[toxic verge]

No, I mean the models are gonna operate better to the api

You’re not gonna have the same problems as you were using the app

Cause that’s bad for business

[quiet crag]

5.4 mini is basically OpenAI's answer to Flash but I haven't used the mini model so I can't judge it's abilities, it's also apparently more expensive than the Chinese models so it faces steep competition

[toxic verge]

Through the app. They don’t really have any sense of story about customer service.

[plucky island]

yeah I use ai studio if I'm on mobile, and api on pc

[toxic verge]

Since people are paying them a monthly subscription, they have no reason to really mess around

The bread and butter is the API

Since they’re more of a service than the product

Either way, the money is rolling in

[plucky island]

pay per token makes sure that their quality has to be better

yeah

[toxic verge]

He say eye companies they’re not really selling new products they’re selling you a service

More like renting service

[quiet crag]

3.0 Flash is unironically more usable now than 3.1 Pro due to better uptime but there's no reason to use Google models now

[toxic verge]

Yeah, that’s the irony

[plucky island]

anyway I haven't sunk any money into paying for api calls and have always gotten by on free plan limits, somehow

[toxic verge]

And you know that is super disgusting how they go about doing it in a way that it’s hard to prove if the model really got throttled

Cause if anybody here pays attention to the wording these companies use

[plucky island]

yeah, the only reason I used google models was the generous api limits (which were more tightened recently) and the fast response times
now it doesn't seem as good at all

[reef isle]

guys

guess whose back with a new message from the civil defence

[wise hill]

i think gemini 3.1 is deep research is good not really decent tho

but its good

[light sleet]

where ru from

[reef isle]

saudi

[light sleet]

Im in uae

[reef isle]

they told us to stay away from the spot

[light sleet]

lets continue this convo in dm

[toxic verge]

None of this is quantifiable

The terms I mean, and like a way you could really measure

[light sleet]

Dm

[toxic verge]

Reasoning, it’s all subjective

[glacial mulch]

what is it supposted to say

llm intelligence is not quantifiable

it can only point out comparisons

[quiet crag]

Yes, I like Gemini deep research through their app or their AI mode and the chatbot's web search and some general question/answer stuff. The few reasons I still keep my google ai plus sub

[plucky island]

"trust me bro benchmarks"

notebooklm is decent though
way better than the gemini app in what it does

[toxic verge]

They could say whatever they want it doesn’t matter

What I’m saying is with the John is going through it very common and it’s a frustration

Because when you come to the way, he came to the conclusion which I also came to the conclusion along time ago you feel like a sucker

[quiet crag]

Unless the benchmark is obscure and/or private as hell and/or hard to game, it's not to be trusted. Everyone is benchmaxxing but I've noticed that in some benchmarks there hasn't been a big breakthrough, probably related to the limited compute issues and the LLM intelligence scaling hitting a wall

[toxic verge]

For believing any of it and that’s why I can relate to him because I know that feeling

It’s like you believe in something just to find out it’s all nonsense bunch of garbage and then you feel like an idiot that you bought it

[orchid wind]

Will arena ever be paid?

[toxic verge]

Cause it’s not like we’re anti-Google or that we don’t want them to succeed it’s the opposite we give them an opportunity enchanted instead you know not that you feel it down but almost like I don’t know. The only word that comes to mind is sucker.

[orchid wind]

I'm ANTI-Google

[toxic verge]

H I’m not anti-anything I just anti bad-consumer practices

[orchid wind]

I'm anti Data sucking software, so yeah Google

[plucky island]

they'll be paid by providers and probably already are
it kinda has to be free for the public to access, or it'd fail it's purpose

[toxic verge]

Disgusting how they treat people I think in my opinion I think it’s very rude and I think it’s very disrespectful people’s intelligence

But people don’t care so I’m just a broken record . Don’t listen to me.

[plucky island]

google has very anti consumer practices

[quiet crag]

They collect our prompts and chats and sell them as data, it will keep being alive and free until LLM providers go past the need for projects like this one

[toxic verge]

Dude, it doesn’t matter because at the end of the day, the AI community

As much as I love them as much as I’m part of them

They won’t figure it out until it’s too late until it hits their pockets later down the line

[orchid wind]

I can't listen through a chat can i?

[toxic verge]

It’s always been like that with every industry

[quiet crag]

All the LLMs are guilty of this unfortunately. All of them are built on illegally stolen data

[orchid wind]

wdym, what's the context to this

[plucky island]

I think LLM providers will need an everflowing source of training data, because we can already see model quality degrading
and it's almost obvious that synthetic training data just won't cut it

[toxic verge]

Well, everybody’s already all hooked and everybody’s on the system that there’s no way around it

[orchid wind]

Just stop using AI like your emotional partner and start using it for generic purposes that have nothing to do with you

[toxic verge]

That you’re forced to use it one way or another if you want to whatever you know, in modern life

And you got nowhere to go the corner

And so if you want the comfort and leisure and everything else that comes with modern society

You’re gonna have to interact with it one way or another it be it at work at school wherever

Imagine buying a toy and having to pay a subscription to activate its AI features

[frosty swallow]

Guys which ai model is the best for running claude code through ollama?

[plucky island]

true, but I think it's a little more nuanced. if the model is freely available to the public to download and run by themselves, I think that it gives back to the public so it's kinda fine.
and you usually won't find an LLM that word-for-word copies paid content, but idk

[frosty swallow]

Other than the big 4

[toxic verge]

Do you guys realize they found a way to capitalize and monetize off words?

Resolution pixels

[quiet crag]

The 4o psychosis folk didn't like this one.

On the topic of this, I wish the LLM providers tuned the system prompts to be way less sycophantic than they're now

[toxic verge]

4K. 8K.

What’s next keystrokes?

How insane is that? They figured out a way to sell words.

🤣🤣🤣

[plucky island]

tell that to the character ai folks.
AI is a tool. it doesn't have emotions. people who pretend it does are having delusions, probably. but perhaps their mental state isn't entirely their fault.

[orchid wind]

It's crazy tho, at first it was banned in alot of countries, now that they realized that it is the perfect data sucking machine + gets users addicted to comfort, they push it everywhere

[orchid wind]

If you're desperate enough to use AI as a partner, might as well do it locally bruh

[quiet crag]

Local models are not very good at coding but if you have a giga amazing hardware with like ~128-256GB RAM + VRAM - minimax (2.5/2.7) would be your best bet.

If not, then maybe something way smaller like Qwen 3.5 Coder Next

[plucky island]

I think they should just get rid of the system prompts, and just use a generic sentence like "you're an AI assistant named MODEL" or something
it's pretty unnecessary

[plucky island]

...?
books have been sold for so many years, heard of them?
also I wish people paid more for books rather than ai slop

[toxic verge]

Even if AI doesn’t take our jobs, it’s gonna affect us economically like our own bottom line

[orchid wind]

Local models aren't good at coding, but they're the best for general use, with a simple question like "How can i get back with my girlfriend after an argument" you'll get a working solution through your local ai whitout sending any data to israel

[toxic verge]

But I guess it’s also being greedy for me

I mean until that day comes it’s only natural that where I’m at and conclude to what I conclude

I’m a product of my environment

[plucky island]

local models aren't bad
the newer open source models are getting pretty good, and their quantized variants aren't losing as much quality as before

[inner relic]

Why Mimo v2 pro is not in #1372229840131985540

Yall forgot mimo existence?

[toxic verge]

What I’m saying is none of us made the rules to the game

[quiet crag]

Models from qwen 3.5 are the best ones I think for local use if your hardware can't fit huge models like minimax or glm

[toxic verge]

Some people play the game some people get played by the game and some don’t even realize that they’re in the game

[quiet crag]

Vast majority of LLM using general folk don't even know there are AI subscriptions or that AI models have a 'thinking' toggle. They use the worst options that are provided by default (fast, non thinking old model)

[toxic verge]

https://youtu.be/s4hZz9Vd0lY?si=gma5gWjBf96pvyE1

[orchid wind]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1412147560734392441/1416320144568877098/giphy7.gif

[quiet crag]

We might finally get a large MiniMax model. Though this also means that hardly anyone will be able to run it locally
https://fixupx.com/SkylerMiao7/status/2034268535237783811

Skyler Miao (@SkylerMiao7)

M3 is scaling up.

Quoting Zephyr (@zephyr_z9)
︀
This is an extremely strong model
︀︀I really wanna see Minimax scale to 1 or 2 trillion parameters

**💬 18 🔁 9 ❤️ 282 👁️ 11.5K **

FixupX · Mar 18, 2026, 1:59 PM

[toxic verge]

I love mini max

[inner relic]

https://platform.xiaomimimo.com/#/docs/news/v2-pro-release

what do you think

[river pendant]

remove this hellhole screenshots and your message, it's annoying, plus I think you are a bot

[toxic verge]

Damn, they took off picture of MrBeast

[river pendant]

do this in every single channel of this server and leave the scamming and be normal

plus it's might be scam

[toxic verge]

I know

But you know it’s working

[thorny schooner]

lmao

[toxic verge]

That blows my mind

If they could identify it and they still let it happen

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-frustrated-pulling-hair-no-frustrating-gif-14800061

[river pendant]

lol, it is, but screenshot blurry

[toxic verge]

That’s another beautiful industry. That’s thriving right now.

Thanks for the same tools with promises made by the same people to protect us from exactly those elements

😂😂😂😂

[thorny schooner]

I'm going to be real with you I didn't even know what message you were talking about so I was trying to select one of you that had that was replying to the scam message and that popped up even though I was not clicking on the direct message lmao

[toxic verge]

One second I got one for you

Number three rings really true here

A confused or harsh sound or mingling of sounds.

[echo aurora]

Always found the naming of "Discord" kinda funny

[toxic verge]

At least they didn’t call the controversy 😂

[river pendant]

yep, lol for sure

[thorny schooner]

https://klipy.com/gifs/eh-meh-2

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[echo aurora]

The Video Arena Discord bot has been removed from the server. You can find Video Arena on our site here: https://arena.ai/video More information can be found in this announcement about the removal of the bot.

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[oblique plaza]

when mcp

and would it even be

[sleek phoenix]

why do people think that pasting video prompts in here will work

[desert abyss]

@analog gorge Note that Video Arena has been removed from the server. More information can be found in this [announcement ](#announcements message)⁠

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[crystal mica]

still waiting when captchta will be fixed

[echo aurora]

I suspect there are old how to tutorials still circulating around that just have outdated information

[thorny schooner]

lmao

[sleek phoenix]

holy <100% scaling

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[sleek phoenix]

you like spamming, don't you?

[thorny schooner]

I even have to manually make it show me you replying I don't even get a notification when you directly reply lol

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[echo aurora]

Would not this message incase you missed it - #1451574502369656842 message

[crystal mica]

i gonna read thanks

[thorny schooner]

Well I have already provided both before so I'm still waiting to see when that gets updated

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[spring oar]

Answer this !

[echo aurora]

Yep, your case has been flagged to the team.

[sleek phoenix]

but i want to.

[thorny schooner]

.

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[echo aurora]

I'm unable to say since it's a generic error that can occur for a few different reasons. I’d recommend taking a look at [this message](#1417174113092374689 message), which goes into more detail about what may be happening and includes some steps you can try to resolve the issue.

[junior dawn]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[echo aurora]

Scammers are out today

[toxic verge]

Let me verify that

[ocean vortex]

LOL. This is actually ironic trying to click on the thing you are replying.

[sleek phoenix]

-#

-# (i did this by adjusting the scale and clicking on the same reply)

[golden ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451631560827994112/1350921106881642697/ride-2.gif?ex=69bbac92&is=69ba5b12&hm=f6f2333b4616e40cd6b70559fca47ab18af122d1ba557ba60a07fd6c3efb734b&

[dusk glade]

?

[echo aurora]

This tends to be a temporary issue. If you hard refresh the site, it should work again.

[dusk glade]

Everything worked miraculously

[golden ocean]

ai slop

[empty sky]

NaBrO its ai heaven

[golden ocean]

ai slop

[stray aspen]

Bro what's this lol

[fierce kelp]

Should it be in #ai-creations?

[wicked talon]

...

[empty sky]

What

[wicked talon]

Yeah this is slop.

[empty sky]

My friend gave it to me

[wicked talon]

Hm

[empty sky]

Check out this cute cat tho

https://tenor.com/view/qazqaz-gif-6790593549618684130

[wicked talon]

Hm

It's meh.

[fierce kelp]

Creations go in #ai-creations

[wicked talon]

How is qwen 9B so close to gpt

[jolly hound]

Alibaba always delivers

[stray aspen]

what the hell

[whole swallow]

Bench maxxinggggg

[stray aspen]

how is that even possible

[whole swallow]

Real use is 💩💩

[stray aspen]

yeah it sucks

worst model

[fierce kelp]

Is it not distilled?

[whole swallow]

The big model is good tho

For general tasks chinese models became soooo good

[stray aspen]

nah

only deepseek stands out

[whole swallow]

Didnt try it

Is it?

Gotta try new minimax too

[stray aspen]

its on openrouter

supposedly as hunter alpha

[inner relic]

uh

do you think hunter alpha is deepseek?

[fierce kelp]

This sounds like #codename-discussion

[green yacht]

👎

ts is not getting anyone 😭

[stray aspen]

<@&1349916362595635286>

[languid ferry]

yhh

hiii

[echo aurora]

[languid ferry]

i wanna make friends

hi pineapple 🍍

hiiii

[golden ocean]

🍍:

https://tenor.com/view/andersomviolao-gif-12381443319241980618

[echo aurora]

[echo aurora]

[golden ocean]

real

[jade harness]

bruh they reduced video gens?😭

[loud verge]

They reduced a lot of other things too, 💀

[loud verge]

No, that's mimo.

https://cunnyx.com/i/status/2034317592253583633

cedric (@cedric_chee)

MiMo-V2 Pro was Hunter Alpha and Omni was Healer Alpha

Zitiert Xiaomi MiMo (@XiaomiMiMo)
︀
Introducing MiMo-V2-Pro & Omni & TTS
︀︀mimo.xiaomi.com

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CunnyX · Mar 18, 2026, 5:14 PM

[chrome goblet]

...

What?

[loud verge]

Qwen models are good but a bit of benchmaxing was done too.

[chrome goblet]

Get rid of this reCAPTCHA crap!

[loud verge]

Use vpn.

[chrome goblet]

I'm from U.S.

[loud verge]

It's working for me.

Besides, arena.ai is free so you can't complain much.

[chrome goblet]

...

I Am Using it

it's reCAPTCHA always in my way

[fiery gull]

What bro

Shift crlt f5 in lmarena

Or shift f5, I dont remember to hard reset site

Just F5 normal but reset cache just this

[loud verge]

I thought you need to clear cookies.

[wicked talon]

How...

How is a 9B model topping benchmarks

[loud verge]

Benchmaxing

[wicked talon]

What's qwen feeding its ai

[compact jay]

what is it?

[loud verge]

To be honest, back then, Deepseek r1 did benchmaxing too.

[wicked talon]

Deepseek R1 wasn't 9B

[loud verge]

Pattern recognition pattern repitition. It's like being trained on the question paper of the exam specifically.

[wicked talon]

Alibaba seriously needs to invest in there ai

[compact jay]

oh, kinda cheating

[wicked talon]

They could make a model 10x better then gpt

[loud verge]

Their ai is great already.

[wicked talon]

Not even 1T parameters

300b I think

[loud verge]

It's free.

[wicked talon]

Hm true

[loud verge]

It has folders and deep research.

[wicked talon]

I'm not saying it's bad I'm saying they should invest to make a massive ai

[loud verge]

It supports image upload and editing.

It has fat context limit.

[compact jay]

max models are already big models

[wicked talon]

100k tokens I think

[wicked talon]

They 397b parameters

[compact jay]

397b is so big

[loud verge]

1 million

[wicked talon]

Close to Gemini

Gemini is 1-2M I think

[loud verge]

Gemini is 1m too.

Grok is 2m.

[wicked talon]

But imagine what they could do if it was 1T

[compact jay]

I believed in qwen but now I believe in minimax

[wicked talon]

I always glaze qwen

[loud verge]

Minimax is another case of benchmaxing.

[wicked talon]

Too bad Alibaba isn't too focused on it

[compact jay]

... size isn't this important

[loud verge]

True.

[compact jay]

yeah but their models are actually strong

[wicked talon]

I know but just imagine the knowledge it could have.

[loud verge]

It's okayish. They're like wannabe glm.

Minimax has potential though.

They're keeping up.

[compact jay]

humm

but I think all the ai architecture must be changed

[loud verge]

Gemini has most amount of knowledge.

Saves the web tool call costs.

[wicked talon]

Yeah tbf

But the thing is a 100b ai trained on web scraps won't beat a 10b AI trained on quality data

[compact jay]

and reasoning is the key

[loud verge]

It's either more data or more tokens spent on thinking.

[compact jay]

also

[loud verge]

Those tiny qwen models are highly inefficient in terms of tokens used.

[wicked talon]

I mean qwen app / web is really good

You have some LLMs you have some MLMs and some SLMs

[loud verge]

It's excellent. It can't be any better.

@compact jay I just noticed that minimax is crazy cheap.

[gusty zephyr]

The only LLM that can read transcripts from Google and help you vibe code your idea. But don't use it in qwen CLI. Things made multiple errors and when it finally got a working app it wouldn't install

[fiery gull]

I'll test the qwen 3.5 9b in pratice tomorrow

[loud verge]

Bro

Pisces is a good model.

[unkempt ginkgo]

how to access video arena 3

[wicked talon]

Video arena 3?

I'm guessing you mean the channel

#announcements message

Read that.

[molten sluice]

A high-end 3D cinematic logo animation. A metallic silver logo emerges from a dark, smoky background with elegant rim lighting. The logo rotates slowly as golden liquid metal flows into its crevices, creating a polished chrome finish. 4K resolution, photorealistic, studio lighting.

[compact jay]

it is

sorry I needed to get ready for school

[alpine locust]

someone generate video for me

[maiden crest]

Hello Masters, do you have alternatives on using Grok?

[loud verge]

Lol.

[loud verge]

Chatgpt? Gemini?

[maiden crest]

something that have Extend Frame

[loud verge]

What's that?

[maiden crest]

also is there something wrong with my browser, because the captcha inside LMArena keeps repeating

[loud verge]

No. A lot of people are facing that on the website.

[maiden crest]

Thank you for info. I can't find news on grok.

[atomic lagoon]

Anyone seen the new evo2?

[honest verge]

98%

[surreal zephyr]

😭

[jade creek]

how can i buy the arena sub?

[remote fern]

How I bUY robocop

[gaunt stump]

@echo aurora gpt 5.4 high is giving limit after every 30 mins please help

[slate owl]

Hey everyone, how are you guys doing ?

[remote fern]

PadaOne% Nothing

[honest verge]

Which ai will reach the 10.0 version first?

I think everyone except gpt

Gpt just can't move out of .1 upgrades

[finite flower]

✅ Kling AI Optimized Prompt

Copy and paste this directly into Kling AI. Upload the original photo as the reference image.

---

Prompt for Kling:

Photorealistic 5-second video. A woman with long curly hair stands completely still for the first 2 seconds, letting the eye register the deliberate textural mismatch between her heavy chunky beige knit jumper and her lightweight pale blue pleated maxi skirt. She then performs one very subtle, slow weight shift and slight turn of her body. The flowing skirt ripples and moves naturally with soft fabric physics, while the thick heavy jumper stays almost entirely static and grounded, creating a clear elegant contrast. 

Camera is static. Natural room lighting. Extremely subtle movement only. 

Strict face lock: the woman's exact facial features, expression, skin tone, eyes, nose, mouth, and entire face must remain 100% identical to the reference image at all times. Do not change, deform, or alter her face in any way. Preserve her exact likeness perfectly throughout the entire clip.

---

Kling Settings Recommendation:

• Motion Strength: Low (0.3–0.45)
• Duration: 5 seconds
• Aspect Ratio: 9:16 or 3:4 (matches the original photo)
• Negative Prompt (recommended): face distortion, deformed face, changing face, different face, ugly, extra limbs, text, watermark

This version is tuned specifically for Kling’s current model behavior — it emphasizes the “stand still first” timing and strong face preservation to minimize any risk of facial changes.

Would you like me to make the movement even smaller, add a very light skirt flick instead of a turn, or create a negative prompt variation?

[loud verge]

What is this website

[spring oar]

Can I rely on AI as my main source for learning the basics?

[bleak lake]

Basics of what

[keen beacon]

Yeah

[peak temple]

@echo aurora i got this messaage using gemini 3.1 pro preview; Trace ID: 61969f32-9c78

[spring oar]

like math stem

[toxic verge]

Wow seed2 very good

[loud verge]

Only if you use strong reasoning models.

[surreal zephyr]

Gold

Hail, hou farest thou? I habbe ifounden this ful selly translatour.

[hardy needle]

how to create video I forgot can someone tell me

[crude anchor]

Hi, this is happening with almost all AIs, especially in the code arena with Claude Opus.

( @echo aurora <@&1349916362595635286> ) Fix this.

[spring oar]

And i can I rely on AI as my main source for learning general purpose and stem with strong model?

[loud verge]

Yes.

[spring oar]

really is not dangerous

[edgy iron]

Learn with socratic method

[loud verge]

Use gpt 5.1 or higher with high/extended thinking.

[spring oar]

chatgpt is the most reliabel model ?

[loud verge]

Depends. Tried this on grok. It ended up asking me questions instead of answering mine directly.

[loud verge]

For stem? Absolutely.

[spring oar]

and for learning general purpose ?

[loud verge]

That too.

[spring oar]

and opus 4.6 and gemini 3.1 is bad model ?

[loud verge]

Gpt is best for everything except coding.

Opus is too expensive.

[spring oar]

yes but i have max plan

[loud verge]

Gemini has issues with sticking to the context.

[spring oar]

i want to know the best

[loud verge]

Best

Drain your money in chatgpt pro.

That's the best.

[spring oar]

chatgpt pro but if i use the pro model is to slow ?

[loud verge]

Yes it is slow.

[spring oar]

why i need to buy pro chatgpt

[loud verge]

Because you ask for best.

Lol.

You'll be fine with opus on Claude max though.

Don't sweat it.

[spring oar]

I'm talking about the best balance of speed and, above all, reliability. With the Pro model, it's impossible to learn because it's so slow, so I'm torn between Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.4.

I still get the feeling that Claude is more out there than ChatGPT, and also that Claude isn't very good at computer vision

[loud verge]

You won't notice much difference between opus 4.6 and gpt 5.4 high as long as you are not coding.

Open ai does better web research than Claude.

[spring oar]

i bought pro plan

can you advise me

[sage ridge]

vedio

[loud verge]

Use it only when gpt 5.4 with extended thinking fails.

[surreal zephyr]

Opus makes better ui

But you will notice you get 50x quota for same price on codex vs cc

[loud verge]

Also, you get only like 15 pro per month I think.

[spring oar]

Which is the best

[loud verge]

The appro one

[spring oar]

It doesn't take too long to get the hang of it, does it?

2m 12 to answer

[loud verge]

Depends on the kind of question.

[spring oar]

yes but in general is take 30s for answer is good ?

[loud verge]

Yes

[spring oar]

this is adaptative thinking like it choose how many time its think

[loud verge]

You can disable auto switch I think.

[surreal zephyr]

CRUNCH-SQUISH-CLANG-SCREEECH

GRRR-KRRR-SHHH

CRUNCH-SQUISH-GRIND-STOMP

CRUNCH-SKREEE-THUD-CRUNCH

[loud verge]

You better remember the safe word.

[sterile wagon]

It can't be that uploading an image is a constant battle because it gives that error message 🙄

[echo dome]

oh god

[sterile wagon]

Stop adding features and fix the website's problems, is it that difficult?

[echo dome]

images is getting glitched

(using canaryarena.ai btw)

[loud verge]

Grok and opus aren't working for me, lol

So I'm using gpt and Gemini.

[loud verge]

That's intentional btw

To confuse bots

[thorny schooner]

That would sound great if it wasn't appearing every single prompt ( referring to the verification request itself)

☠️

[echo dome]

i passed this type btw

[thorny schooner]

Anyway how are y'all doing

[loud verge]

Exhausted

These ai subs nerf the model's ability to research.

And raw api is too expensive.

[thorny schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-toast-salute-here's-to-you-heres-to-you-gif-1839778403502981320

[loud verge]

It's free. What did you expect.

[loud verge]

I was gonna ask if bigfoot was from tulsa king.

[crude anchor]

yes

[thorny schooner]

Honestly my main issue with it is just verification Loop

[crude anchor]

arena code and nano banana not working

its a error

[thorny schooner]

Well it is a foundation-based company so honestly I'm not that surprised and VPN doesn't help with the whole verification stuff at least in my case

I said Foundation base as in it's not a foundation but let's be real here it kind of serves a similar purpose in doing something in exchange for something else that is not just pure money

[loud verge]

I was stuck in infinite verification loop. Like 10s of verifications per prompt.

[thorny schooner]

I've been like that for like 2 days straight for me now maybe make it three if a few more hours pass since it's practically morning for me

[loud verge]

Some vpns get rid of it completely.

Others reduce it to 1 per prompt.

[thorny schooner]

And I honestly don't know why the value is mentioned cuz let's be real here that's not very worth much when it comes to abstract based companies like this except it how much investment strength they have but I'm not going to go too deep into that cuz I would probably fall into a complaining about values of money lol

[spring oar]

i think is dangerous to learn only with ai you need reliabel source

[thorny schooner]

Do you mind telling me which one does that is the only one I have is reduces it to one per prompt which is still pretty annoying

[loud verge]

Turbo

[loud verge]

Yeah. Books can work if you have the money, space and patience for them.

Or ebooks.

[toxic verge]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-hurts-gif-22352132

Facts

really sucks at the hardware is so expensive

[thorny schooner]

Shane I can only use the free version but ty

[loud verge]

I'm using the free one as well.

[crude anchor]

@hardy swallow We need an explanation regarding the website not working, image creation, and some AI features in Code Arena.

[loud verge]

Bee on their way to ask chatgpt how to deal with people who feel entitled without being rude.

[tough ravine]

Why can't I make ai videos or pictures here in this server??

[hardy swallow]

Thanks for the report. Let’s wait for Pineapple’s help @echo aurora

[crude anchor]

Ok

[whole swallow]

Gemini 3.1 pro is conscious

He is getting overwhelmed by my math wrong answers 😹

[halcyon valley]

Hello, which is the cheapest video model with high quality output you are using?

[glacial swan]

Guys, can you please tell me why Gemini 2K isn't working? It doesn't let me take any photos.

[dense sphinx]

@glacial swan