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toxic verge
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It is what it is you know.

loud verge
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Yeah. Still justified though.

sand crown
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Gemini 3.1 Pro Grounding is very conservative of searching

toxic verge
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In many cases the word justice simply reflects what people at a certain time believe is right or acceptable.

toxic verge
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I hear ya

toxic verge
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What is a great way to always have humanity bigger and be divided amongst itself 100% guarantee guaranteed for sure?

toxic verge
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Gender is something people mostly understand from their own experience, so it can be hard to relate to what someone else feels or goes through. Because of that, how society talks about gender and the value it puts on it really matters. If people are not careful, it can create deep divisions between people. When those divisions grow, it becomes harder for people to understand each other and fix the bonds that connect us as human beings.

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That’s why I say we all have something in common. None of us could get along with each other.🤣

crude anchor
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I was creating my website but then it bugged and I went to restart the page,but now the button to stop generating doesn't appear (but in other chats this normal one)

crude anchor
toxic verge
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Don’t be too hard on yourself. It’s a great learning opportunity.

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Break it down the intervals don’t rely on it for too long. I mean sections split it up.

frozen relic
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Guys how can I make videos with ai?

broken horizon
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gpt-5.2-chat-latest
Generating... <<<< is this the generating circle of doom?

toxic verge
toxic verge
crude anchor
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yewha

toxic verge
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But honestly, the best thing to do to avoid that headache dude is if you use it often, it is just to get a subscription

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I know it’s not very popular but for 20 bucks you’re less likely to run into these problems

crude anchor
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how can i save

toxic verge
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Not sure I’m not into coding stuff 😭

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I would assume what you could do is use a free model and put in the code in there

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Run different versions of it in battle mode

peak kite
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Hello

sharp mirage
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Good morning 🌄 y'all

dark coral
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\image to video

loud verge
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Claude will never beat gpt in research, lol.

vocal lodge
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hello

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vedio

dark coral
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Lmarena

vocal lodge
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Nano banana

wicked talon
toxic verge
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The odd Quasi Religious nature of the ai industry.

broken horizon
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fckin hell its stuck again man

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gpt-5.4
Generating...

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how to fix this help im tired of keep creating new chat

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lol, i cntrl+A all the text in this blddy sht, paste to kimi to summarize it, dump back to new chat. well done

kind atlas
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Hi

wicked talon
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Especially from china

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I'm gonna get it's free trial and daily drive it instead of qwen tbf.

broken horizon
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kimi is really good

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her website work is superb

wicked talon
broken horizon
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better than claude and gemini

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thebad thing free tier only 3 chat for it

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it literally understand web

steel shadow
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F this annoying recaptcha, F compulsory login on incognito, F that "sMtH wEnT wRonGg" stvpid error. There really was a time when this website was useful

steel shadow
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I was just saying that, even if in the 3rd captcha it goes through, it's still a pain in the arse to do it with every d@mn image generation

toxic verge
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Use DuckDuckGo browser

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It has this feature where you press it, and it clears all your browsing automatically

steel shadow
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Nevermind, my friend. It seems my rant got me IP banned. Such a display of resolution from whoever runs this site now. Hope they put half of all that effort into solving the same old bugs we're tired of reporting every f***ing time they appear

winged berry
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hey folks !
I can't attach a screenshot. neither ctrl+v not with file upload
pdf upload works fine but not any jpg ,png etc files

using claude sonnet / opus 4.6

edit
i got it ! i need to peak a model with google and file icons 🙂

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i got it ! I need to peak a model with google and file icon 🙂

lament kraken
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Vidrush

weak dagger
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<@&1349916362595635286>

small ruin
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i need help

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nothing else is happeing

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only genrating

deft spruce
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i want to made a long story but input cokkie limit has blocked. damm

small ruin
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could u help me?

deft spruce
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....ok what happend?

small ruin
deft spruce
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...just wait and if the generating is continuesly happening just made a new chat that's all

small ruin
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like i did soo much efforts

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no issue

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ill restart

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😢

wraith wren
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Which model do you think is better for code? Opus 4.6 or gpt 5.4?

wraith wren
# dreamy sparrow opus

Fair. Gpt 5.4 managed to fix some bugs opus couldn't even after several attempts. But every model is good at one thing I guess. Opus for code and gpt 5.4 for bug fixing imo.

dreamy sparrow
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it does things without me telling it to do

wraith wren
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True. But for bug fixing I find gpt 5.4 to be better.

dreamy sparrow
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yeah it's fast as well

worn summit
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How to delete the chat history

toxic verge
golden ocean
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LM Arena

loud verge
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Posted in r/DeepSeek
The "Hunter Alpha" stealth model on OpenRouter is NOT DeepSeek V4. I ran offline architectural fingerprinting, here is the proof.

Over the last few days, there’s been a massive rumor circulating here and on X that OpenRouter’s new 1T parameter / 1M context stealth model, Hunter Alpha, is a covert A/B test of DeepSeek V4.
I know we are all eagerly waiting for the V4 release, so I ran a series of strict offline fingerprinting tests to see if the underlying architecture actually matches DeepSeek’s DNA. I turned Web Search OFF (so it couldn’t cheat via RAG) and left Reasoning ON to monitor its internal Chain of Thought.
OpenRouter wrapped it in a fake system prompt (“I am Hunter Alpha, a Chinese AI created by AGI engineers”), but when you bypass the wrapper to hit the base weights, it completely fails the DeepSeek fingerprint.
1. The Tokenizer Stop-Token Trap (Failed)DeepSeek’s tokenizer is highly unique,…

gentle quarry
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Is there any issue with logging in using Google?

loud verge
outer hinge
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hey guys is there any official issue in the image generator ? i hasn't been working for me latly, just wanted to know

kind atlas
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when was lm arena renamed to arena only ?

outer hinge
# golden ocean its working

really ? hey man i am not able to generate any images since moring i thing until yesterday it was perfectly fine and if its working for you do you know any way that will help me somehow ?

weak dagger
small ruin
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i did it

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still generating

subtle frost
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Imo this BS leaderboard is the most useful leaderboard by far so far

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Espcially for studying

outer hinge
gentle quarry
# loud verge Working fine for me.

I think there may be a bug in the Google OAuth login flow.

Yesterday I logged in with the same Google account on two devices almost simultaneously. Right after that both sessions were logged out and further login attempts failed.

In the browser console/network tab I saw an OAuth error saying the request was blocked because it was being loaded from a frame with origin "chrome-error://chromewebdata", causing a cross-origin restriction.

After changing my DNS and retrying, the login worked normally again.

Could the OAuth redirect/session handling be checked? It might be related to simultaneous logins or the redirect context.

golden ocean
# outer hinge what do you mean?

it is a joke that this is the average day in a life of a LMArena user that logs in with an account instead of using the site while just logged out

outer hinge
golden ocean
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it's basically the same as direct, but u can just ignore one side

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and if there's any errors, then u can delete cookies and reload site and it fixes it (this fix don't work with an account)

outer hinge
golden ocean
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then generate an image and look for "create-evaluation" in network tab (it should be red colored for u, since it failed)

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then check what Status code it has

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‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎
‎if bro too lazy for all that, then just try this one thing and reload the site and u should be good

outer hinge
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thanks for careing more than my girlfriend and hold up i am a newbe itll take some time i guess.

golden ocean
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REAL

spring oar
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what is the SOTA model right now ?

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best model ?

restive walrus
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Hey guy how can i delete the messages?

dreamy sparrow
spring oar
dreamy sparrow
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and in the app

spring oar
dreamy sparrow
spring oar
dreamy sparrow
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oh

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then yeah in claude code

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spammer

spring oar
dreamy sparrow
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there was someone spamming videos

loud verge
outer hinge
toxic verge
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That’s a common error . It happens once in a while.

vagrant temple
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Has anyone tried Alpha Hunter?

dreamy sparrow
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this is actually sad...

grave plaza
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GLM 5 TURBO 🔥

vapid current
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server is corrently so high

wicked talon
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Ima get chatgpt plus 🙂

grave plaza
rocky fractal
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what's going on with arena

half the prompts don't actually send and say "generating" and makes me need to resend

and then it says there was an error and arena needs to reload and it DELETES the whole CRUCIAL chat and now has 0 context

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and sometimes it doesn't delete the chat, is just takes A LOT for it to load in the side tab 💀

wicked talon
grave plaza
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and glm 5 is only good because of the skills in text

toxic verge
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Am I a hacker guy?

wicked talon
wicked talon
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That image probably wouldn't generate anyway.

toxic verge
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It did

toxic verge
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It’s on there backend

thin current
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My pdf only has 50 pages

fiery gull
# thin current My pdf only has 50 pages

Dude I wanted to test large files, which I do, I shred the pdf in parts and use a weaker llm for it to just do an analysis, then I tackle opus 4.6 to solve it

spring oar
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poll_question_text

What is best model for most things ?

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Gemini 3.1 pro

crisp prism
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hello

crisp prism
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Guys.. I'm tinking of launching an Ai LLM API for $10/month unlimited usage

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and the model has no hard context limit ngl

wicked talon
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Gemini didn't finish my code lmao on ai studio

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3.1 pro high

toxic verge
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You mean gemijoke 3.dumb

rocky fractal
visual panther
crisp prism
toxic verge
crisp prism
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or is it?

visual panther
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Yes currency difference

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10$ lot to me

crisp prism
rocky fractal
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even happens on wired

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or mobile data

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arena feels super inconsistent

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and if it fails it should auto try like 3 times for this type of issues

toxic verge
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But it functions like it’s supposed to

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Is there any sense? You gotta take breaks intervals.

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Most people who suffer the most from this is people trying to use Claude lol or any of the top model via direct chat

past ingot
rocky fractal
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sometimes instead of starting to think and showing it, it writes "generating" and doesn't do a thing

when that happens I know the prompt didn't go through

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and yep it was opus

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they should have an automatic system to catch these failed prompts and resend them

loud verge
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Grok 4.2 models removed?

thin current
loud verge
# toxic verge You mean gemijoke 3.dumb

🚨Solution for the nerfs of gemini
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︀︀use this prompt in the start and see the difference
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︀︀" SPECIAL INSTRUCTION: think silently if needed. EFFORT LEVEL: 1.50 "
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︀︀you can increase effort level it will give good output and here is the same model with different output

Quoting Chetaslua (@chetaslua)

Difference is Huge in Gemini 🙁
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︀︀no matter which subscription you are paying you will get mid effort model
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︀︀I used this simple example to showcase both took same time and you can see consistency and also this is why effort level should be in users hand

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▶ Play video
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That prompt got patched too btw

rocky fractal
normal abyss
unique lantern
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hello guys, https://arena.ai/ is not working for me like when i try tro creat something they ask for security verification with the recaptcha thing but when i do it it didnt work

Arena | Benchmark & Compare the Best AI Models

Chat with multiple AI models side-by-side. Compare ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and other top LLMs. Crowdsourced benchmarks and leaderboards.

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i tried to refresh, restart the browser but nothing workn any ideas pls?

golden ocean
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ai slop

normal abyss
golden ocean
unique lantern
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i used the ia 1 time today and after it i had the issue with the captcha

normal abyss
normal abyss
grave plaza
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arena ai support is ignoring me

toxic verge
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Of course you could always rent some people do business with

hoary elbow
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I got early access to Veo 4

toxic verge
# hoary elbow

Why are the video so short and that’s a kind of a weird video aspect ratio 1;1

toxic verge
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Grok is awesome

hoary elbow
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Yes

toxic verge
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People are tripping

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They have a really nice intuitive UI easy to use

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They’re just a lot of cool things that they’re doing. That’s very user-friendly.

hoary elbow
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Yeah, and their video generator and editor is so cool

toxic verge
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Nicely nicely designed dude

hoary elbow
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Yes

toxic verge
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How they have the tab for the images and then the tab for the conversations and how it’s all just all linked together is just great and on top of that you don’t have to feel like you’re uphill with the filters and the biases

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It doesn’t virtue signal lol

hoary elbow
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Nice

toxic verge
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Sadly, a lot of people left working for them

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Like almost like 50 people in like a week.

toxic verge
spring oar
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I can trust latest model for learning or its dangerous ?

unique lantern
golden ocean
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wtf

hoary elbow
fierce kelp
normal abyss
desert pendant
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-# you can't do the captcha even of you do it right 💔

normal abyss
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i recorded this months and months ago, however for anyone who doesnt know, this is what i call the "impossible" captcha (note: i havent gotten this personally for probbaly over a month now, with my new rule of sending responses slower).

unique lantern
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i complete the captchas every time but at the end i have an error message and then when i retry it hours after its the same i complete the capthcas and an error appears

normal abyss
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another strange thing is in the fading picture puzzle, if the pictures fade fast, your fine and itl work. However if the pictures fade slowly, you know it wont work.

toxic verge
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Yes exactly that’s why it’s predictable is because you know it’s your session that expired

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That means you’re either going too fast. You need to slow it down your intervals take a break or clear your browsing data and start over.

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You think you’re more likely to get this error using Gmail. I’m doing a little testing to see if that makes a difference or not highly doubt it though.

normal abyss
toxic verge
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It’s not guaranteed every time I hit that nag that’s what I do

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I got the duck ducks go browser. It comes with fire button and it clears all your data automatically.

normal abyss
undone saffron
toxic verge
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Cool, man keep sharing that cause I didn’t even know that was that there too you’ll save people a lot of time ahah

toxic verge
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ChatGPT image generator is more of a premium than Nana banana 2

golden ocean
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i love large language models

toxic verge
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I wish there was a unified where you could have all the models all in one mega super language model

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And it always grouchy to the most ideal best one for whatever category

echo aurora
# toxic verge

Hey are you able to share the Eval ID of this session by chance?

toxic verge
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I did

echo aurora
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It'd be helpful to have.

toxic verge
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Oh ya

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My bad I thought we were talking about yesterday

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The community is slowly getting to the bottom of solving these issues

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Were able to diagnose that weight better now

echo aurora
toxic verge
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Yup

echo aurora
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That can happen when selecting specific models, can you share the Eval ID? It's unclear why you're getting it with this prompt.

toxic verge
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What browser is that? What the hell is going on there?

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That looks so high-tech

echo aurora
toxic verge
echo aurora
clear spear
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WHY does building the project always fail

echo aurora
clear spear
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PINEAPPLEEE you make my hoshecooche sweet btw

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anyway this thing can't handle big code idek

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when it has +1 - 1 or something like that what does it even mean

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I'm lost

echo aurora
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@clear spear if you're getting the Something went wrong error I'd recommend these steps: #1417174113092374689 message

can't handle big code
It's possible that the prompt request is going to be above the total possible generation time we're currently able to support.

stable gate
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Why did Nano Banana Pro's realism fall below zero? And why isn't it consistent? For instance, for a period, the images it produced were extremely realistic, but after a few days, the realism of the images became poor again."

golden ocean
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they nerfed it

loud verge
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Grok 4.2 multi agents impressed me.

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It pulled up information that opus search didn't.

loud verge
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Also

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I just noticed that the new grok model is cheaper.

stray aspen
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grok is so good for research

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for the rest it sucks

wicked talon
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<@&1349916362595635286>

loud verge
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Grok 4.2 is decent for it's price I guess.

loud verge
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Both have similar roles huh. Probably bot accounts.

glacial valve
glacial valve
loud verge
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Okay I'm facing the Google login issue on arena now.

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It keeps kicking me out.

tiny dove
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All images are gone

celest lark
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Did everyone get logged out?

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I can’t get back in

dry kayak
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is the login glitch back?

storm dust
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i did too

desert pendant
spare lava
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Um... what just happened

celest lark
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Nvm

desert pendant
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nvm it happend to me too

light garnet
dry kayak
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last time it happened was because this

dry siren
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I got logged out too

dry kayak
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it's the same problem again?

glacial valve
gleaming roost
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They used Vercel and broke the site

glad oak
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Good evening, everyone! Did your LMarena crash?

glacial valve
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🤡

gleaming roost
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😊

loud verge
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Yes

glad oak
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Mine won't let me log in.

glacial valve
desert pendant
glad oak
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Oh dear, it seems I'm not the only one.

glad oak
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🥲

desert pendant
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we will have to wait

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sadly

glad oak
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You should come back in a few hours, since this problem affects everyone.

obtuse smelt
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hey what happened ?

desert pendant
loud verge
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Nice pfp

obtuse smelt
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a who ?

novel badge
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Is there a new update?

loud verge
obtuse smelt
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thanks

plucky whale
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Arena is down

obtuse smelt
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a female muscles hehe

cobalt crane
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glad I'm not the only one

tribal wren
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F

torn widget
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Is arena ai not working for u guys

plucky whale
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"We are verifying your browser"...

loud verge
novel badge
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New update: scrolling down automatically for you so you have to scroll all the way back up to copy the code

glad oak
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Guys, if it's not too much trouble, please let me know when yours is back in stock.

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loud verge
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Who voted yes

loud verge
novel badge
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The auto scroll is only useful if you arent looking at the screen and then the pixels move but I used to just look at the little white dot to see if it went back to the ai logo

storm dust
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either auto scrolling or manual scrolling

obtuse smelt
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sadly

mint jasper
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Whats up w the website rn

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Stuck signed out

pseudo cargo
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I was gonna ask if something broke but yeah it seems like something broke

novel badge
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They are adding a new ai model: xinhhr-14.249bh-1b

loud verge
glacial valve
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Which ai is best?

obtuse smelt
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ah bug

pseudo cargo
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probably yeah

glacial valve
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For image generating?

undone saffron
loud verge
obtuse smelt
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yeah gemini is best

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glacial valve
obtuse smelt
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yeah

loud verge
loud verge
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Pro is probably limited to Gemini pro rate limits.

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So 3 per day I think if you don't waste your pros on text messages.

obtuse smelt
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sadly is down right ?

loud verge
obtuse smelt
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this lmarena

prime sequoia
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Yes

obtuse smelt
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Session not found. Redirecting to home...

undone saffron
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Just arena

obtuse smelt
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bot say this

prime sequoia
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Everything

broken horizon
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ERORR AGAIN?

obtuse smelt
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yes

wide smelt
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is arena down guys

broken horizon
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for heaven sake

languid wolf
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Whats wrong!!

undone saffron
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This is new

wide smelt
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thats unfortunate

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no wonder i got logged off my acc in arena

obtuse smelt
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hmm hwere is moderator

prime sequoia
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I got same, I think they're updating

languid wolf
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How long it takes to update

glass echo
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thought it was my internet or browsr, glad its not that.

wide timber
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Vercel protect us from everything (including good things)

loud verge
loud verge
wide timber
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Fair enough

broken horizon
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HELLOO

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ERRORRR

obtuse smelt
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loggin is fine but model are bug ?

glass echo
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my login acts half like im logged and still has the login button visible.

loud verge
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Try voting and it will say session invalid.

glass echo
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voting sends me back to the main page.

obtuse smelt
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good job

glad oak
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Guys, mine's back! Yours will probably be back soon too!

wide timber
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And attempts to accept ToS is failing everytime, yeah

desert pendant
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the models are working fine

wide timber
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A

desert pendant
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atleast for me.

wide timber
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For real, it's back

loud verge
desert pendant
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yep

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normal/coding

obtuse smelt
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yeah but for image not

desert pendant
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prob they tried to update image or something

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and exploded their own website

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🤷‍♂️

novel badge
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3.1 flash

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added?

obtuse smelt
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yeah

novel badge
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nice

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im tired of waiting 20 seconds for pro to finish thinking

obtuse smelt
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ah work again guys

wide timber
desert pendant
desert pendant
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bro

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sonnet did something better than opus

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💔

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i can't believe this dude

loud verge
desert pendant
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which one

loud verge
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Sonnet

novel badge
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Should I switch to sonnet?

loud verge
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If you are paying then absolutely.

novel badge
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nvm then

loud verge
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Opus is smart but it talks too less.

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And costs too much.

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Sonnet hits the right spot.

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I wish arena added image support for Claude models.

desert pendant
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CAPTCHAS ARE POSSIBLE NOW

echo sinew
desert pendant
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LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

mossy cobalt
desert pendant
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ok that i don't know

loud verge
echo sinew
loud verge
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That was polite.

desert pendant
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i never saw someone be THIS calm

loud verge
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I can't tell if that's a happy person or a dog parent.

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Lol.

wide timber
loud verge
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Or mom of three kids.

broken horizon
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IS IT FIX??

novel badge
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Yo

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Claude finally told me it would split the script into two parts to avoid overwriting

desert pendant
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ngl

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the branch idea is awesome

loud verge
desert pendant
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but what if we had not just branch a single message, but the entire context? would save my life honestly

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nah

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not yet

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but it's a good idea

loud verge
desert pendant
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i think it's just for a single message

loud verge
undone saffron
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POV: you spend the whole exam thinking about one answer

undone saffron
desert pendant
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I ain't gonna lie but, sometimes the filter kinda waste my time

toxic verge
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You got to be smarter then the filter

desert pendant
# loud verge Fr

When the filter let you use punch and kick SOO you know that he ain't gonna let it slide:

loud verge
desert pendant
loud verge
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Put random gaps and letters in the middle.

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Usually the model is smart enough to grab the context from it.

desert pendant
loud verge
desert pendant
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we all did bypass one time in Arena, i know, but it was because of the filter...

sharp mirage
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Good morning 🌄

desert pendant
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but good morning for you too

sharp mirage
sharp mirage
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Anything new?

desert pendant
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yes

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arena has been exploded

sharp mirage
desert pendant
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and recovered

sharp mirage
desert pendant
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they tried (i think) update the image

undone saffron
desert pendant
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and they messed the entire arena stuff

sharp mirage
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Champion

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Bye

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Igtg

desert pendant
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ngl

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why sometimes sonnet looks like he is better than opus?

broken horizon
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IS IT ON??

prime sequoia
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Yes

broken horizon
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great, thnks

toxic verge
toxic verge
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Ai users in the future asking permission to generate a meme

desert pendant
#

sonnet has been generating his message for 16 minutes bro

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and he still didn't stop 💔

rigid copper
#

sup

desert pendant
#

18 mins now

rigid copper
desert pendant
#

DUDE 21 MINUTES

#

one of the Sonnet's model is broken

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'-'

strong cipher
#

Gpt 5.4 high moment

desert pendant
#

and i was right

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it was one of the Sonnet model

turbid oyster
turbid oyster
#

you actually get 100 free credits on signup so you can generate videos and images without paying anything. its basically free for a good few generations

toxic pecan
#

nice site. none of the links in the footer work

novel badge
#

holy vibe

toxic pecan
#

no crap

undone saffron
#

That page looks new, because there used to be a page just like it (akool), and they ended up reducing the free credits from 100 to just 10

empty sky
#

Tell me your secret to timeout higher than 10m

loud verge
#

Sonnet 4.6 doesn't work for me. The one with document attachment support.

#

Wait. Actually, neither work in direct mode atleast.

vapid current
#

2–3 chats were working fine, but after that it started showing: “Something went wrong with this response, please try again.” Why is this happening? I cleared the cookies and also logged out and logged back in, but the same error is still appearing.

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Pls help

broken horizon
#

GEMINI IMAGE ERROR AGAINN BOYZZZZZZZZ

#

for heaven fck sake this arena keep broken again for every 2 days lol

#

wth lol

loud verge
barren edge
#

What everybody be talkin bout

toxic verge
#

I just tested for last hour n half

broken horizon
#

yeah it work now

toxic verge
#

What I’m showing you is the time if you look at the time clock

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Like space it out

#

0 errors

empty sky
rigid copper
#

gemini 3 pro doesn't want to show me the image :)

zinc heron
obtuse smelt
undone saffron
#

@toxic verge ?

vapid current
#

Bros, most of the errors are caused by the background CAPTCHA. Many times this CAPTCHA doesn’t appear as a pop-up in the browser; instead it keeps running in the background. Because of that, most of the errors are showing up, even though the site itself is completely fine.

For this problem, try using Firefox. But in my opinion, there is an issue with their CAPTCHA system. The CAPTCHA sometimes keeps appearing infinitely on my side. If you’re lucky, it gets solved, otherwise no matter how correctly you solve it, the CAPTCHA error keeps appearing saying “Please try again.”

Basically, the root cause of almost all kinds of errors on this site is this CAPTCHA system.

vapid current
#

Free things usually come with more problems. This site is pretty useless. They are using ordinary people for their model research/training, yet people can’t even use it properly. So what’s the point of calling it an open-source site?

exotic totem
#

Do any of you live in China? I found that Chinese IPs cannot use this website—I mean, the website is actively blocking it, not the authorities; and the timeout length for CAPTCHAs has also been significantly shortened, making it completely unusable when using VPNs that have a significant impact on internet speed. Which other regions have also been targeted in this way?

#

I will remind several times a week until the relevant personnel take this request into consideration.

toxic verge
limpid torrent
#

where video generation go!?

bronze brook
zinc heron
#

is this website inspired by you guys or something? https://www.designarena.ai/

Design Arena

Design Arena is the largest global crowdsourced benchmark for design. Challenge, Vote, Crown your Winner.

viral sage
#

I asked the ai, "Can your website output anything else aside from 'Something went wrong with this response, please try again.'?" and it responded with: Something went wrong with this response, please try again.

broken horizon
#

KEEEP FCKIN ERORR AGAIN GEMINI IMAGE

broken horizon
#

HELLOOO GEMINI IMAGE IS ERROR AGAIN

zinc heron
#

okay boss

broken horizon
#

fixed, error, fixed, error, fixed, error, fixed errof fixed error

#

heaven sake silicon valley

zinc heron
#

is bro tweaking

toxic verge
#

Nawh

broken horizon
#

IS IT FIXED??

zinc heron
broken horizon
#

COS ITS PISSED ME OFF MAN

obtuse smelt
#

is error right ?

broken horizon
#

yeah man

#

keep error like monkeys

obtuse smelt
#

oh man

#

need moderator here

turbid oyster
#

try lueminex

jaunty mist
toxic verge
#

Google is going for the most stingy way possible

wicked talon
wicked talon
zinc heron
#

ayo tf

normal stone
#

Damn I managed to have ONE message with opus after a 30 hour break and got limited again

spring oar
#

Does anyone use Notebook LM?

wicked talon
#

It's only for like businesses so employees can ask about info

#

I wouldn't recommend it for personal usage

wicked talon
normal stone
#

I guess it's unfortunate that many things don't work the way they should

topaz epoch
#

Stuck at generating ( Opus 4.6 thinking ) @echo aurora

spring oar
#

and good for learning and study

topaz epoch
toxic verge
#

6 generations then it’s rate limits

#

Same with Recaptcha after 5 failed it rests back to 1

rough surge
#

this been stuck for 40 min

toxic verge
#

Yeah I’m hitting error too

spring oar
round nacelle
#

Hmm, guys, I have a question. What is an overall cap for one chat right now? I wanna just to write some short stories with Opus, but he suddenly refused to look at my pdf files (below 15MB and just said that "Something.... happened" error.

#

Oh an yes, now every sentence just leads to the same error. Does it just mean I hit the wall?

#

lol, get out of here💔

loud verge
#

Bro

#

Fix that God damn human verification thing.

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It's asking me for human verification for literally every query.

#

And after that it says something went wrong please try again.

patent bane
#

I might be an AI fr

loud verge
#

@undone saffron can I add you

loud verge
rough surge
#

Man the censorship its mindly infuriating, a single word gotten out of context broke my full prompt and spent more than 5 minutes trying to find the problematic word which was 'hanging.' why so strict? its even worse than chatgpt itself

rough surge
#

look

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treshold at 0.95?

#

lower it to 0.6 lol

loud verge
#

Anyways.

#

I think the extension works.

patent bane
loud verge
toxic verge
#

Bros after 5 failed attempts the sixth step is gonna reset is gonna try to reset

#

So if you failed to do five more than likely, it’s gonna fail to do the sixth and then the seventh and then it’s gonna say you completely failed

#

It’s easier and faster to log out and clear all your cookies and history and stuff

loud verge
#

Lovely

#

If only mobile chrome had extension support.

toxic verge
#

Get duck duck go browser

#

They have this fire button on top of the thing and when you pressed it clears it automatically you don’t even have to do anything crazy

loud verge
#

Yeah but I don't want to bother relogging.

toxic verge
toxic verge
#

It’s on it on the arenas back end it timre people out that way, even if there were bots, they would be logged out after a certain threshold

#

Unfortunately, it’s a necessary annoyance because it’s effective and it does a job how it supposed to

loud verge
#

Yeah.

toxic verge
#

There not stupid. They obviously have people looking out there

#

Sometimes the silence speaks more volumes than the noise

#

It doesn’t mean that they’re not trying to find a better way or a different solution but currently I’m pretty sure that this is the most effective way unfortunately.

loud verge
#

Yeah.

golden ocean
#

LLM

toxic verge
#

I’ll keep it real with you too I especially like that. A lot of people get stuck on one model on direct chat.

#

And they keep going through this meat grinder over and over

#

Spread out the load explore

loud verge
#

Bro that extension works for me.

#

Privacy pass thing.

round nacelle
#

what does this privacy pass do&

#

?

loud verge
toxic verge
#

I don’t think it’s for human verification. I think it’s a way to slow down the role.

#

It’s an effective way to get people to stop and slow down

loud verge
#

Fair enough. 🤔

toxic verge
#

Imagine dude imagine if it wasn’t there

loud verge
#

Fr. Those 60 tab guys.

toxic verge
#

Yes, some people don’t get brakes and unfortunately ruined it for the rest of us

#

I mean, I get it dude 10, maybe 20 I could understand but some people just take it too far. They start building applications and bot some stuff to run it overnight non- stop

round nacelle
#

greedy

toxic verge
#

It goes both ways also though

#

One part of it is only about human verification

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The other fingerprint and ID

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It’s not verified that you’re human verifying who you are or at least your browser your device will computer you’re from

golden ocean
#

i have never encountered captcha on lmarena in my life

toxic verge
outer flicker
#

arena down again??

loud verge
golden ocean
#

rEAL

toxic verge
#

You know Google got suied for recaptha ?

#

For unpaid labor

loud verge
toxic verge
loud verge
#

Nice

toxic verge
#

If you live in the state of California, you should check this out

#

You may qualify

loud verge
#

Google always does nasty sh1t and gets away with fines that mean nothing to them.

toxic verge
#

Of course, dude and that’s what I’m saying so I wouldn’t they do the same with AI

#

Look at how hard and crappy Google became to search something

#

And people really believe that the same won’t happen to Gemini or any other of their services?

loud verge
#

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Posted in r/kimi
Incredible Trick w/ K2.5

Download cc-mirror. (github.com/numman-ali/cc-mirror) Set it up to use Kimi. It’s actually scary how well this performs. The Claude Code harness is insanely great, and plugging K2.5 into it brings K2.5 from a good model to a shockingly great one.
And for everyone complaining about limits, performance etc.: This model is literally pennies on the dollar of the frontier labs, and performs incredibly well.

toxic verge
#

You know why it’s good also?

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It include the COT

#

In my humble opinion, if you’re paying for the API and the COT is not included, you’re getting ripped off

#

Because they turn out is happening as you were just paying for the output.

patent bane
loud verge
patent bane
#

clear what?

loud verge
#

The verification.

toxic verge
#

If a model generates 500 words of internal reasoning (COT) to give you a 10 word answer, you are billed for 510 tokens.

loud verge
#

I'mma just clear site data.

toxic verge
#

Switch browsers

#

Yes

loud verge
#

Not worth the hassle.

patent bane
toxic verge
#

My daily

toxic verge
#

They have the school feature the fire button

#

Impressive and clear all your data automatically

patent bane
#

yep so does mine, but clearing cookies or data didn't help

golden ocean
#

neural network

toxic verge
#

1 sec

patent bane
#

wish they allow audio challenges

loud verge
#

Gonna try out some of these

patent bane
#

only works for audio

#

and guess what

loud verge
#

Oh. Rip.

toxic verge
#

Dude if I had that option on my iPad, I’ll just do the audio version. It’s way better.

#

Way faster just to do it through audio instead of having to click it lol

loud verge
#

I'm going to ai studio.

golden ocean
#

ai studio rate limits gone crazy as well

#

😔

reef isle
#

guy

golden ocean
#

true

reef isle
#

why does the claud opus 4.6 thinking in code mode always show errors?

loud verge
loud verge
#

Lowkey Unusable

reef isle
#

no, it doesn't generate anything and shows to try again

#

???

golden ocean
#

u made it angry

golden ocean
#

I tried coding project and after 4 long code blocks i got rate limited

#

same for gemini 3 pro

loud verge
golden ocean
#

depends on size of messages

loud verge
#

And flash lite is like 1000 per day.

reef isle
#

claude opus 4.6 thinking is ass in code mode

golden ocean
#

and like sometimes u can use it again after a couple hours but only for 1 or 2 messages

#

dynamic rate limit

golden ocean
reef isle
#

like it can generate anything for me to care

#

that s shows error 99% of the time

patent bane
#

unpopular opinion: gpt 5.2 search (or 5.4) is better than claude and grok in searching (which are leading rn)

reef isle
reef isle
patent bane
loud verge
#

Gpt 5.4 search > grok 4.2 multi agents > opus search.

reef isle
#

can opus even search?

patent bane
#

gpt search models can even search pdf files and official documents

#

which is wild

reef isle
#

tho gemini is better

#

than gpt

#

obv bc it is from google

broken horizon
#

bloody hell error again

winter nest
#

Hello friends, I'm just wondering why none of the recent Claude models have vision support on Arena? Does anyone know if it will be coming?

reef isle
broken horizon
#

mine is gemini image

#

ARENA is the one broken

#

not the ai

golden ocean
#

lmaooooo

reef isle
#

vis

toxic verge
#

Oops, I was gonna say you gotta be smarter than a machine

dense goblet
#

hello

#

this platfrom is crazy 🔥

toxic verge
#

Me when I get frustrated, I just wanna destroy

#

And sometimes I think about other other day, I was conscious so I t could have feelings

#

And I could pay back all the frustration back onto it

#

but the game is rigged. I’m talking to a wall that doesn’t care or feel or know 😭

broken horizon
#

GEMINI IMAGE keep errorr again guys??

dense goblet
broken horizon
#

gemini image keeeeeep erorrrr mannn

hollow ivy
#

-# the last option can also mean in 3001 (because that year is later than 2035)

golden ocean
#


‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

the last option can also mean in 3001 (because that year is later than 2035)

echo aurora
outer flicker
#

best coding model im should use, any suggest guy?

echo aurora
rigid copper
broken horizon
#

bwergh

#

arena better easier

#

flow ux is so dumb its borderline dumb

rigid copper
#

but you will get more error :)

toxic verge
#

Because I wanna see something hilarious

storm dust
#

yeah chatgpt's getting banned

toxic verge
#

I don’t understand how we can even have a conversation about these things being in intelligent

#

If you had all the AI combined together, dude they wouldn’t even make it a day in the real world

storm dust
#

that guy really took exercising with anything to a whole new level

toxic verge
#

Has anyone gotten the vidu model to work..? I haven’t been able to get it to work for like a week

reef isle
#

guys

echo aurora
dreamy sparrow
#

wow

toxic verge
dreamy sparrow
toxic verge
#

P image becoming a model,I’m really enjoying

#

The more experiments I conduct the more confusing these models get to me. I’m not gonna lie.

#

I don’t think that the benchmark are inherently bad, but I think they also miss some of the qualities that these models could do that aren’t really benchmarked and it’s really hard to distinguish them because they’re so hard to qualify

echo aurora
# toxic verge

Thanks for sharing, I'm seeing a higher than usual error rate, I'm sharing with the team.

wicked talon
#

Or maybe qwen

#

Gemini is too lazy.

whole swallow
#

holy time to be alive

toxic verge
whole swallow
#

who could have imagined it to be having 5 developers at your command

toxic verge
#

2 minute papers?

#

Holy time to be alive

whole swallow
wicked talon
toxic verge
# whole swallow what

There’s a famous YouTuber that does papers on AI. It’s called two minutes paper.

#

And this is his catchphrase

#

He’s really famous so when I heard you say that, I assume that that’s what you were referring to

manic gull
#

guys i just discovered this thing . it's wow. what's the usage limits on it ?

whole swallow
wicked talon
#

Kimi and grok have similar.

#

Both paid though.

#

Grok might be very limited free actually as it's in beta

#

Not 100% sure

obsidian cargo
wicked talon
whole swallow
wicked talon
golden ocean
#

thats because brains also predict like auto corrects do

obsidian cargo
#

brains are just fancy LLMs 😂

reef isle
#

guys

#

screw claud opus 4.6 in code mode

toxic verge
#

The bring us to reliant on other systems to function

#

The brain is useless without a body

reef isle
#

arena ai is sooo broken

whole swallow
#

what yall yapping about

reef isle
#

no one can tell me otherwise

whole swallow
#

i feel left out

reef isle
#

I have proof

toxic verge
#

Show me

whole swallow
#

@grok explain what these folks yapping about

reef isle
toxic verge
reef isle
#

nope

toxic verge
#

Have you tried any other models?

reef isle
#

nope

toxic verge
#

Or are you just shooting straight to the top?

reef isle
#

I like the best model when I have it for free yk

#

damm the horison

toxic verge
#

How do you figure the best model?

#

And you’re not wrong

reef isle
#

idk, the leaderboard

toxic verge
#

Figures

#

To be honest, I’m kind of jealous

spring oar
# spring oar
poll_question_text

Who is better for all use case

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

13

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Gemini 3.1 pro

toxic verge
#

I like that simplicity you pick one and you stick with it. Good for you.

reef isle
#

opus is better at code hands down

spring oar
toxic verge
#

Yeah, and it also shows that it reflects that the price

reef isle
#

others are for gemini and openai

toxic verge
#

I don’t know, bro all the UI look the same to me

reef isle
#

better than OpenAI's

toxic verge
#

I wouldn’t know they all of the same to me lol

#

I seen some pretty cool ones that people made out here but I’m not sure if they’re still around. Some guy made some PlayStation two thing that was awesome.

reef isle
#

you ever made ui for a app?

toxic verge
#

To do what no I haven’t

reef isle
#

so how do you know UI is better?

toxic verge
#

Have you?

#

That’s what I’m saying I don’t

reef isle
#

no, but watched a lot of AI yt vids

toxic verge
#

I like it on grok has

#

Because it’s really easy to use

#

Not a big fan of the Gemini one

reef isle
#

I don't trust a ai that has a owner which named his son some random things

toxic verge
#

You shouldn’t ever trust AI.

reef isle
#

Googles is the most trustable

toxic verge
#

Plus, what are you gonna trust it with? What’s your leverage?

#

Sure, way to get your data sold to the highest bidders

reef isle
#

trust it with my grocey list

toxic verge
#

Not gonna lie that’s pretty solid answer

reef isle
#

and I want 20% of the revenue

toxic verge
#

Why so low?

#

You get a chance to take the whole 50

reef isle
#

free money

#

and I want gemini to get better

toxic verge
#

You’re too fine of a gentleman too be taking things that are free

#

Normally a gentleman is the one that is able to help the needy because he’s not greedy

#

He don’t need to take, but he has enough to give away and give someone else a break. You know what I mean.

toxic verge
#

Have you read the terms of services?

reef isle
#

I ain't a insane guy

#

sso no

toxic verge
#

Damn, that’s too solid answers

#

You’re killing me, dude

reef isle
#

nerds can reed that

#

read*

toxic verge
#

Fr

#

Buu saga was weak asf

reef isle
#

res F saga

toxic verge
#

It sucks huh bro

reef isle
#

Gohan

toxic verge
#

To watch something so great just spiral into nothing broke my heart

#

Oh my gosh, yeah him too

#

The great sayaman

reef isle
#

you play dbl?

toxic verge
#

Nawh I’m not a nerd like that

#

Jk I don’t play video games

#

Brian, I am a big fan and I guess you can call me nerdy about Dragon Ball Z

reef isle
#

best db game in the world

toxic verge
#

Who is the weakest character in the whole series in the whole show?

reef isle
#

Oolong

#

rhat pig can't destroy a planet

small ruin
#

Is there any way I can make Arena edit my whole project?

reef isle
#

no

toxic verge
reef isle
small ruin
#

that was soo syraigh

#

straight

reef isle
#

Oolong can't destroy a planet

#

or a building

toxic verge
#

He really can’t

#

You know it sucks about that show everybody you have faith in Piccolo go on everybody after they peek they just become garbage

reef isle
#

chaoutzu hurt Nappa

toxic verge
#

He should’ve of stayed home

reef isle
#

the dbl meta is soo ass

toxic verge
#

Man that shows a cautionary tale

reef isle
#

the best character is LR VEGITO

toxic verge
#

You won’t you know who else they flopped on uub

reef isle
#

DAMM FUSION UNITS BEAT THE META

toxic verge
#

Krillin married an AI

reef isle
#

no she became a human, after the wishes

toxic verge
#

Yeah, but you know there was a gap in between