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Yeah. Still justified though.
Humanity can justify almost anything. The fact that something is called justice does not prove it is good or wrong.
In many cases the word justice simply reflects what people at a certain time believe is right or acceptable.
Haha
I hear ya
Being a woman does not mean someone is exempt from consequences for their actions. Women are human too, and like anyone else they are capable of both right and wrong. Take that for what you will.
What is a great way to always have humanity bigger and be divided amongst itself 100% guarantee guaranteed for sure?
Fair enough 🤝
Gender is something people mostly understand from their own experience, so it can be hard to relate to what someone else feels or goes through. Because of that, how society talks about gender and the value it puts on it really matters. If people are not careful, it can create deep divisions between people. When those divisions grow, it becomes harder for people to understand each other and fix the bonds that connect us as human beings.
That’s why I say we all have something in common. None of us could get along with each other.🤣
I was creating my website but then it bugged and I went to restart the page,but now the button to stop generating doesn't appear (but in other chats this normal one)
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It’s game over bud
damm
Don’t be too hard on yourself. It’s a great learning opportunity.
Break it down the intervals don’t rely on it for too long. I mean sections split it up.
ok
Guys how can I make videos with ai?
gpt-5.2-chat-latest
Generating... <<<< is this the generating circle of doom?
Give me where to access it or do you mean like how do you prompt and stuff for videos?
I’d like to use a lot of visual metaphors so think of it like this
yewha
But honestly, the best thing to do to avoid that headache dude is if you use it often, it is just to get a subscription
I know it’s not very popular but for 20 bucks you’re less likely to run into these problems
how can i save
Not sure I’m not into coding stuff 😭
I would assume what you could do is use a free model and put in the code in there
Run different versions of it in battle mode
Hello
\image to video
Claude will never beat gpt in research, lol.
Lmarena
Nano banana
GPT research is meh
The odd Quasi Religious nature of the ai industry.
fckin hell its stuck again man
gpt-5.4
Generating...
how to fix this help im tired of keep creating new chat
lol, i cntrl+A all the text in this blddy sht, paste to kimi to summarize it, dump back to new chat. well done
Hi
Kimis quite a good ai
Especially from china
I'm gonna get it's free trial and daily drive it instead of qwen tbf.
Yeah it is
better than claude and gemini
thebad thing free tier only 3 chat for it
it literally understand web
F this annoying recaptcha, F compulsory login on incognito, F that "sMtH wEnT wRonGg" stvpid error. There really was a time when this website was useful
thanks bro
I was just saying that, even if in the 3rd captcha it goes through, it's still a pain in the arse to do it with every d@mn image generation
Use DuckDuckGo browser
It has this feature where you press it, and it clears all your browsing automatically
Nevermind, my friend. It seems my rant got me IP banned. Such a display of resolution from whoever runs this site now. Hope they put half of all that effort into solving the same old bugs we're tired of reporting every f***ing time they appear
hey folks !
I can't attach a screenshot. neither ctrl+v not with file upload
pdf upload works fine but not any jpg ,png etc files
using claude sonnet / opus 4.6
edit
i got it ! i need to peak a model with google and file icons 🙂
i got it ! I need to peak a model with google and file icon 🙂
Vidrush
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i want to made a long story but input cokkie limit has blocked. damm
could u help me?
....ok what happend?
...
...just wait and if the generating is continuesly happening just made a new chat that's all
Which model do you think is better for code? Opus 4.6 or gpt 5.4?
opus
Fair. Gpt 5.4 managed to fix some bugs opus couldn't even after several attempts. But every model is good at one thing I guess. Opus for code and gpt 5.4 for bug fixing imo.
for me opus just one shots my coding prompts
it does things without me telling it to do
True. But for bug fixing I find gpt 5.4 to be better.
yeah it's fast as well
How to delete the chat history
LM Arena
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The "Hunter Alpha" stealth model on OpenRouter is NOT DeepSeek V4. I ran offline architectural fingerprinting, here is the proof.
Over the last few days, there’s been a massive rumor circulating here and on X that OpenRouter’s new 1T parameter / 1M context stealth model, Hunter Alpha, is a covert A/B test of DeepSeek V4.
I know we are all eagerly waiting for the V4 release, so I ran a series of strict offline fingerprinting tests to see if the underlying architecture actually matches DeepSeek’s DNA. I turned Web Search OFF (so it couldn’t cheat via RAG) and left Reasoning ON to monitor its internal Chain of Thought.
OpenRouter wrapped it in a fake system prompt (“I am Hunter Alpha, a Chinese AI created by AGI engineers”), but when you bypass the wrapper to hit the base weights, it completely fails the DeepSeek fingerprint.
1. The Tokenizer Stop-Token Trap (Failed)DeepSeek’s tokenizer is highly unique,…
Is there any issue with logging in using Google?
Working fine for me.
hey guys is there any official issue in the image generator ? i hasn't been working for me latly, just wanted to know
when was lm arena renamed to arena only ?
its working
really ? hey man i am not able to generate any images since moring i thing until yesterday it was perfectly fine and if its working for you do you know any way that will help me somehow ?
Old lmarena?
Imo this BS leaderboard is the most useful leaderboard by far so far
Espcially for studying
average logged-in experience
what do you mean?
I think there may be a bug in the Google OAuth login flow.
Yesterday I logged in with the same Google account on two devices almost simultaneously. Right after that both sessions were logged out and further login attempts failed.
In the browser console/network tab I saw an OAuth error saying the request was blocked because it was being loaded from a frame with origin "chrome-error://chromewebdata", causing a cross-origin restriction.
After changing my DNS and retrying, the login worked normally again.
Could the OAuth redirect/session handling be checked? It might be related to simultaneous logins or the redirect context.
it is a joke that this is the average day in a life of a LMArena user that logs in with an account instead of using the site while just logged out
woww hold up you can do that?? i don't think you can create images beging logged out mann? really???
yes, u can use "Side by side" mode to choose models still
it's basically the same as direct, but u can just ignore one side
and if there's any errors, then u can delete cookies and reload site and it fixes it (this fix don't work with an account)
this is the problem that i am having....
press f12 and go to Network tab
then generate an image and look for "create-evaluation" in network tab (it should be red colored for u, since it failed)
then check what Status code it has
if bro too lazy for all that, then just try this one thing and reload the site and u should be good
thanks for careing more than my girlfriend and hold up i am a newbe itll take some time i guess.
REAL
Hey guy how can i delete the messages?
claude opus 4.6 max effort
in claude code ?
and in the app
in the app is adaptative thinking
do you have the max plan
yes
?
Did it help?
You can't do that anymore afaik... Only random battle mode works without login now.
i haven't tried it right now
That’s a common error . It happens once in a while.
Has anyone tried Alpha Hunter?
this is actually sad...
GLM 5 TURBO 🔥
server is corrently so high
glm is ok
what's going on with arena
half the prompts don't actually send and say "generating" and makes me need to resend
and then it says there was an error and arena needs to reload and it DELETES the whole CRUCIAL chat and now has 0 context
and sometimes it doesn't delete the chat, is just takes A LOT for it to load in the side tab 💀
Hm my opinion it's meh
i like minimax m2.5
and glm 5 is only good because of the skills in text
No
Haha 😆
That image probably wouldn't generate anyway.
It did
Your session expired
It’s on there backend
My pdf only has 50 pages
Dude I wanted to test large files, which I do, I shred the pdf in parts and use a weaker llm for it to just do an analysis, then I tackle opus 4.6 to solve it
What is best model for most things ?
7
10
2
Gemini 3.1 pro
hello
lol
Guys.. I'm tinking of launching an Ai LLM API for $10/month unlimited usage
and the model has no hard context limit ngl
Ty it works
You mean gemijoke 3.dumb
it's constantly expiring
I’d get it if there was a free version
there will be lol
Yeah you may want to reset your router or modem
but $10 isnt too much imo?
or is it?
ah.. yah... I did forget
I got 0 packet loss or network issues
even happens on wired
or mobile data
arena feels super inconsistent
and if it fails it should auto try like 3 times for this type of issues
It is super inconsistent
But it functions like it’s supposed to
Is there any sense? You gotta take breaks intervals.
Most people who suffer the most from this is people trying to use Claude lol or any of the top model via direct chat
Yes I can relate with you on that for sure
this is me trying to use the chat after a day of 0 usage or cooldowns, like the second prompt decides to fail or smth
sometimes instead of starting to think and showing it, it writes "generating" and doesn't do a thing
when that happens I know the prompt didn't go through
and yep it was opus
they should have an automatic system to catch these failed prompts and resend them
Grok 4.2 models removed?
Bro, this alternative works great, thank you so much!!
🚨Solution for the nerfs of gemini
︀︀
︀︀use this prompt in the start and see the difference
︀︀
︀︀" SPECIAL INSTRUCTION: think silently if needed. EFFORT LEVEL: 1.50 "
︀︀
︀︀you can increase effort level it will give good output and here is the same model with different output
Quoting Chetaslua (@chetaslua)
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Difference is Huge in Gemini 🙁
︀︀
︀︀no matter which subscription you are paying you will get mid effort model
︀︀
︀︀I used this simple example to showcase both took same time and you can see consistency and also this is why effort level should be in users hand
That prompt got patched too btw
he went mecha
prompts like that really used to work? id have never thought 1 prompt could somewhat un-nerf a model 😭
hello guys, https://arena.ai/ is not working for me like when i try tro creat something they ask for security verification with the recaptcha thing but when i do it it didnt work
i tried to refresh, restart the browser but nothing workn any ideas pls?
ai slop
if you send responses too fast youl get an easy captcha, maybe 2-3 times.
however if you keep going, youl get the "impossible" captchas which do not complete even if you are correct in the puzzles.
The only fix is waiting a while, and take a decent gap inbetween messages.
side by side still works
in this mode u can still select models thankfully
i waited for like 5 hours and it still didnt work
i used the ia 1 time today and after it i had the issue with the captcha
oh thats odd, idk why it would still be like that after 5 hours 😭
were you using direct mode?? captcha for me has always just fixed itsself after a few mins if im sending too fast
arena ai support is ignoring me
Yup
Of course you could always rent some people do business with
Why are the video so short and that’s a kind of a weird video aspect ratio 1;1
It’s grok video
Grok is awesome
People are tripping
They have a really nice intuitive UI easy to use
They’re just a lot of cool things that they’re doing. That’s very user-friendly.
Yeah, and their video generator and editor is so cool
Nicely nicely designed dude
Yes
How they have the tab for the images and then the tab for the conversations and how it’s all just all linked together is just great and on top of that you don’t have to feel like you’re uphill with the filters and the biases
It doesn’t virtue signal lol
Nice
Sadly, a lot of people left working for them
Like almost like 50 people in like a week.
It ain’t looking too hot right now, bro 😭
I can trust latest model for learning or its dangerous ?
i tried 3 differents mode and still it dont work with captcha issue
I know, right
Aren't a lot of them Chinese people who are not allowed to work because of the SpaceX merger, due to the laws in the US?
id take that up in the bug reports, thats not normal at all (5 hours waiting for captcha is like crazy)
the fact that some captcha are "impossible"
-# you can't do the captcha even of you do it right 💔
instead of impossible captchas (which i call level 3 captchas) as their are 3 difficulties i know of
their should just be a popup saying youve been timed out, its way more direct
i recorded this months and months ago, however for anyone who doesnt know, this is what i call the "impossible" captcha (note: i havent gotten this personally for probbaly over a month now, with my new rule of sending responses slower).
i complete the captchas every time but at the end i have an error message and then when i retry it hours after its the same i complete the capthcas and an error appears
It’s impossible because your session expired
After the fifth attempt, it tries to reset by starting it over
another strange thing is in the fading picture puzzle, if the pictures fade fast, your fine and itl work. However if the pictures fade slowly, you know it wont work.
Yes exactly that’s why it’s predictable is because you know it’s your session that expired
That means you’re either going too fast. You need to slow it down your intervals take a break or clear your browsing data and start over.
You think you’re more likely to get this error using Gmail. I’m doing a little testing to see if that makes a difference or not highly doubt it though.
clearing browsing data fixes that????
It’s not guaranteed every time I hit that nag that’s what I do
I got the duck ducks go browser. It comes with fire button and it clears all your data automatically.
oh nice, if you find any other tricks with the captcha in future id love to know
I mentioned two ways to solve that problem many days ago
Here's the first one (designed primarily to fix the response error, but it also partially resolves the reCAPTCHA issue): #1417174113092374689 message
I still need to mention the [third](#1451574502369656842 message) and most effective way
Cool, man keep sharing that cause I didn’t even know that was that there too you’ll save people a lot of time ahah
i love large language models
I wish there was a unified where you could have all the models all in one mega super language model
And it always grouchy to the most ideal best one for whatever category
Hey are you able to share the Eval ID of this session by chance?
I did
It'd be helpful to have.
Oh ya
My bad I thought we were talking about yesterday
The community is slowly getting to the bottom of solving these issues
Were able to diagnose that weight better now
No sorry I meant the one with that error message in Battle, if I could get that it'd be really appreciated.
Yup
That can happen when selecting specific models, can you share the Eval ID? It's unclear why you're getting it with this prompt.
@toxic verge can you submit to the form that's in this help center article ?
That’s not my video somebody here made that
Oh my apologies, thank you very much for pointing that out. I missed it.
WHY does building the project always fail
What seems to be the issue?
PINEAPPLEEE you make my hoshecooche sweet btw
anyway this thing can't handle big code idek
when it has +1 - 1 or something like that what does it even mean
I'm lost
@clear spear if you're getting the Something went wrong error I'd recommend these steps: #1417174113092374689 message
can't handle big code
It's possible that the prompt request is going to be above the total possible generation time we're currently able to support.
Why did Nano Banana Pro's realism fall below zero? And why isn't it consistent? For instance, for a period, the images it produced were extremely realistic, but after a few days, the realism of the images became poor again."
they nerfed it
Grok 4.2 multi agents impressed me.
It pulled up information that opus search didn't.
Decent product. Okayish rate limits. Very deep search.
Also
I just noticed that the new grok model is cheaper.
no way
<@&1349916362595635286>
Grok 4.2 is decent for it's price I guess.
Both have similar roles huh. Probably bot accounts.
<@&1349916362595635286>
All images are gone
is the login glitch back?
i did too
no
Um... what just happened
Nvm
nvm it happend to me too
Yes
last time it happened was because this
I got logged out too
it's the same problem again?
Yes
They used Vercel and broke the site
Good evening, everyone! Did your LMarena crash?
🤡
😊
Yes
Mine won't let me log in.
welcome to the group 💔 💔
Oh dear, it seems I'm not the only one.
🥲
You should come back in a few hours, since this problem affects everyone.
hey what happened ?
Arena bugs
Nice pfp
a who ?
Is there a new update?
Yours
thanks
Arena is down
a female muscles hehe
I literally just joined for this lol
glad I'm not the only one
F
Is arena ai not working for u guys
"We are verifying your browser"...
New update: scrolling down automatically for you so you have to scroll all the way back up to copy the code
I thought it was just me haha
Guys, if it's not too much trouble, please let me know when yours is back in stock.
I miss the time when I could copy my own responses without having to scroll to the middle of the message
Who voted yes
Funny: #announcements message
Ideally I prefer the auto scroll too.
The auto scroll is only useful if you arent looking at the screen and then the pixels move but I used to just look at the little white dot to see if it went back to the ai logo
i think there should rather be option
either auto scrolling or manual scrolling
sadly
I was gonna ask if something broke but yeah it seems like something broke
They are adding a new ai model: xinhhr-14.249bh-1b
oh, thats whats happening
Need this bad boy from ai studio.
Same issue for you?
Which ai is best?
ah bug
probably yeah
For image generating?
We'll have to wait a few hours; this isn't the first time this has happened
Gemini
yeah gemini is best
Idkkkk about that
unless maybe they fixed it
it used to be so buggy on convos that had like 800,000 tokens
maybe just a me problem
Is it Free?
yeah
Nanobanana is free with limited quota per day.
Pro is probably limited to Gemini pro rate limits.
So 3 per day I think if you don't waste your pros on text messages.
sadly is down right ?
Gemini?
this lmarena
Yes
Session not found. Redirecting to home...
Just arena
bot say this
ERORR AGAIN?
yes
is arena down guys
for heaven sake
Whats wrong!!
This is new
hmm hwere is moderator
I got same, I think they're updating
How long it takes to update
thought it was my internet or browsr, glad its not that.
Vercel protect us from everything (including good things)
Lol
This you? 💀 https://www.redditez.com/r/GeminiAI/s/I3UFxN1axa
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Yall get that new update? 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This version made skill issues a thing of the past.
love ya google 😘
Helicopter parenting be like that.
Fair enough
loggin is fine but model are bug ?
my login acts half like im logged and still has the login button visible.
Nah I'm still logged out.
Try voting and it will say session invalid.
voting sends me back to the main page.
good job
Guys, mine's back! Yours will probably be back soon too!
And attempts to accept ToS is failing everytime, yeah
the models are working fine
A
atleast for me.
For real, it's back
Direct chat working?
yeah but for image not
prob they tried to update image or something
and exploded their own website
🤷♂️
yeah
ah work again guys
Imagine exploded after cringe ahh brainrots
💔
I still find it to be a better model considering the cost.
which one
Sonnet
Should I switch to sonnet?
If you are paying then absolutely.
nvm then
Opus is smart but it talks too less.
And costs too much.
Sonnet hits the right spot.
I wish arena added image support for Claude models.
CAPTCHAS ARE POSSIBLE NOW
Thank you
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
can you use direct chat without login again?
ok that i don't know
@FightWithMemes I called grok a clanker and he called me a meatbag. I said I may be a meatbag but I am also the boss.
︀︀Now he calls me "organic overlord" 🤣
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That was polite.
dude
i never saw someone be THIS calm
Low cortisol
Or mom of three kids.
IS IT FIX??
Yo
Claude finally told me it would split the script into two parts to avoid overwriting
Branching chats is an option now?
but what if we had not just branch a single message, but the entire context? would save my life honestly
nah
not yet
but it's a good idea
I thought branching does clone the entire past context.
i think it's just for a single message
Try scrolling up after sending a message in the branch.
POV: you spend the whole exam thinking about one answer
Opus?
4-6-thinking
I ain't gonna lie but, sometimes the filter kinda waste my time
You got to be smarter then the filter
When the filter let you use punch and kick SOO you know that he ain't gonna let it slide:
Yeah, opus just doesn't work for me on arena when it comes to lengthy queries.
how?
Just like that
Put random gaps and letters in the middle.
Usually the model is smart enough to grab the context from it.
bro i just did that randomly 😭 😭
Ultra instinct
we all did bypass one time in Arena, i know, but it was because of the filter...
Good morning 🌄
It's 5:23am
Huh ?
and recovered
How ?
they tried (i think) update the image
And some thoughts that aren't
and they messed the entire arena stuff
Bro they forgot the thing name arena chipmeain
Champion
Bye
Igtg
IS IT ON??
Yes
great, thnks
sonnet has been generating his message for 16 minutes bro
and he still didn't stop 💔
sup
18 mins now
i feel that too, in my side (arena.ai), claude sonnet never or rarely run into error and sometimes give better coding results, claude opus just almost all the time give "Something went wrong" error
it wouldn't stop
and i was right
it was one of the Sonnet model
this website is crazy for free video and image generation
Disclaimer:
you actually get 100 free credits on signup so you can generate videos and images without paying anything. its basically free for a good few generations
nice site. none of the links in the footer work
holy vibe
no crap
That page looks new, because there used to be a page just like it (akool), and they ended up reducing the free credits from 100 to just 10
Sonnet 4.6 doesn't work for me. The one with document attachment support.
Wait. Actually, neither work in direct mode atleast.
2–3 chats were working fine, but after that it started showing: “Something went wrong with this response, please try again.” Why is this happening? I cleared the cookies and also logged out and logged back in, but the same error is still appearing.
Pls help
How fast do you use it?
GEMINI IMAGE ERROR AGAINN BOYZZZZZZZZ
for heaven fck sake this arena keep broken again for every 2 days lol
wth lol
What everybody be talkin bout
Works fine
I just tested for last hour n half
yeah it work now
What I’m showing you is the time if you look at the time clock
Like space it out
0 errors

me too
@toxic verge ?
Bros, most of the errors are caused by the background CAPTCHA. Many times this CAPTCHA doesn’t appear as a pop-up in the browser; instead it keeps running in the background. Because of that, most of the errors are showing up, even though the site itself is completely fine.
For this problem, try using Firefox. But in my opinion, there is an issue with their CAPTCHA system. The CAPTCHA sometimes keeps appearing infinitely on my side. If you’re lucky, it gets solved, otherwise no matter how correctly you solve it, the CAPTCHA error keeps appearing saying “Please try again.”
Basically, the root cause of almost all kinds of errors on this site is this CAPTCHA system.
Free things usually come with more problems. This site is pretty useless. They are using ordinary people for their model research/training, yet people can’t even use it properly. So what’s the point of calling it an open-source site?
Do any of you live in China? I found that Chinese IPs cannot use this website—I mean, the website is actively blocking it, not the authorities; and the timeout length for CAPTCHAs has also been significantly shortened, making it completely unusable when using VPNs that have a significant impact on internet speed. Which other regions have also been targeted in this way?
I will remind several times a week until the relevant personnel take this request into consideration.
Yo
where video generation go!?
is this website inspired by you guys or something? https://www.designarena.ai/
I asked the ai, "Can your website output anything else aside from 'Something went wrong with this response, please try again.'?" and it responded with: Something went wrong with this response, please try again.
KEEEP FCKIN ERORR AGAIN GEMINI IMAGE
yeah man ths sht disgussed me pissed me off
HELLOOO GEMINI IMAGE IS ERROR AGAIN
okay boss
fixed, error, fixed, error, fixed, error, fixed errof fixed error
heaven sake silicon valley
is bro tweaking
Nawh
IS IT FIXED??
YOU DONT NEED TO SCREAM
COS ITS PISSED ME OFF MAN
is error right ?
try lueminex
tbh ai studio is better for all gemini related stuff
unless you mean nano banana pro
Google is going for the most stingy way possible
Probably.
Likely rate limits.
I don't believe arena.ai is training anthropic, deepmind (etc) models.
ayo tf
Damn I managed to have ONE message with opus after a 30 hour break and got limited again
Does anyone use Notebook LM?
30 hours?
Yes but I wouldn't recommend it too much
It's only for like businesses so employees can ask about info
I wouldn't recommend it for personal usage
Your rate limit should refresh entirely by 24 hours.
I guess it's unfortunate that many things don't work the way they should
Stuck at generating ( Opus 4.6 thinking ) @echo aurora
yes but notebooklm is more accurate
and good for learning and study
The message was long enough to use all free tokens in single response
6 generations then it’s rate limits
Same with Recaptcha after 5 failed it rests back to 1
this been stuck for 40 min
Yeah I’m hitting error too
Hmm, guys, I have a question. What is an overall cap for one chat right now? I wanna just to write some short stories with Opus, but he suddenly refused to look at my pdf files (below 15MB and just said that "Something.... happened" error.
Oh an yes, now every sentence just leads to the same error. Does it just mean I hit the wall?
lol, get out of here💔
Bro
Fix that God damn human verification thing.
It's asking me for human verification for literally every query.
And after that it says something went wrong please try again.
@undone saffron can I add you
I'm on phone. Can you try this and see if it works.
too bad
Man the censorship its mindly infuriating, a single word gotten out of context broke my full prompt and spent more than 5 minutes trying to find the problematic word which was 'hanging.' why so strict? its even worse than chatgpt itself
yeah it's sometimes annoying
the video loads 50kb/s, nice
cohld you summarize? ty
Just install the privacy pass extension on browser.
Cloudflare supports Privacy Pass, a recently-announced privacy-preserving protocol developed in collaboration with researchers from Royal Holloway and the University of Waterloo.
The arena is tight in that
Bros after 5 failed attempts the sixth step is gonna reset is gonna try to reset
So if you failed to do five more than likely, it’s gonna fail to do the sixth and then the seventh and then it’s gonna say you completely failed
It’s easier and faster to log out and clear all your cookies and history and stuff
Get duck duck go browser
They have this fire button on top of the thing and when you pressed it clears it automatically you don’t even have to do anything crazy
Yeah but I don't want to bother relogging.
Well, fair enough
It’s on it on the arenas back end it timre people out that way, even if there were bots, they would be logged out after a certain threshold
Unfortunately, it’s a necessary annoyance because it’s effective and it does a job how it supposed to
Yeah.
There not stupid. They obviously have people looking out there
Sometimes the silence speaks more volumes than the noise
It doesn’t mean that they’re not trying to find a better way or a different solution but currently I’m pretty sure that this is the most effective way unfortunately.
Yeah.
LLM
I’ll keep it real with you too I especially like that. A lot of people get stuck on one model on direct chat.
And they keep going through this meat grinder over and over
Spread out the load explore
Fix the human verification loop.
I don’t think it’s for human verification. I think it’s a way to slow down the role.
It’s an effective way to get people to stop and slow down
Fair enough. 🤔
Imagine dude imagine if it wasn’t there
Fr. Those 60 tab guys.
Yes, some people don’t get brakes and unfortunately ruined it for the rest of us
I mean, I get it dude 10, maybe 20 I could understand but some people just take it too far. They start building applications and bot some stuff to run it overnight non- stop
and that's why we cant* have nice things anymore
greedy
It goes both ways also though
One part of it is only about human verification
The other fingerprint and ID
It’s not verified that you’re human verifying who you are or at least your browser your device will computer you’re from
i have never encountered captcha on lmarena in my life
Maybe its nothing
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arena down again??
Bro has human premium pass.
rEAL
Good if true
Nice
Google always does nasty sh1t and gets away with fines that mean nothing to them.
Of course, dude and that’s what I’m saying so I wouldn’t they do the same with AI
Look at how hard and crappy Google became to search something
And people really believe that the same won’t happen to Gemini or any other of their services?
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Incredible Trick w/ K2.5
Download cc-mirror. (github.com/numman-ali/cc-mirror) Set it up to use Kimi. It’s actually scary how well this performs. The Claude Code harness is insanely great, and plugging K2.5 into it brings K2.5 from a good model to a shockingly great one.
And for everyone complaining about limits, performance etc.: This model is literally pennies on the dollar of the frontier labs, and performs incredibly well.
You know why it’s good also?
It include the COT
In my humble opinion, if you’re paying for the API and the COT is not included, you’re getting ripped off
Because they turn out is happening as you were just paying for the output.
installed Silk extension and still didn't work
You have to clear the first time I believe.
clear what?
The verification.
If a model generates 500 words of internal reasoning (COT) to give you a 10 word answer, you are billed for 510 tokens.
Nvm. It doesn't work. I'm getting it again.
I'mma just clear site data.
Not worth the hassle.
like..?
They have the school feature the fire button
Impressive and clear all your data automatically
yep so does mine, but clearing cookies or data didn't help
neural network
1 sec
wish they allow audio challenges
Gonna try out some of these
I just got it 10 mins earlier
only works for audio
and guess what
Oh. Rip.
Dude if I had that option on my iPad, I’ll just do the audio version. It’s way better.
Way faster just to do it through audio instead of having to click it lol
I'm going to ai studio.
guy
true
why does the claud opus 4.6 thinking in code mode always show errors?
How much is it for flash thinking?
It has token limit on arena.
Lowkey Unusable
u made it angry
no idea, it's like based on how many tokens ure using or somehting
I tried coding project and after 4 long code blocks i got rate limited
same for gemini 3 pro
I believe it's 3 Gemini pro per day with flash still being around 90 per day.
depends on size of messages
And flash lite is like 1000 per day.
claude opus 4.6 thinking is ass in code mode
and like sometimes u can use it again after a couple hours but only for 1 or 2 messages
dynamic rate limit
dont hurt its feelings
unpopular opinion: gpt 5.2 search (or 5.4) is better than claude and grok in searching (which are leading rn)
I don't use openAI that much, but yeah
I've trusted the leaderboard for so long but this might make me lose that trust
I'll agree with you here. Strongly.
Gpt 5.4 search > grok 4.2 multi agents > opus search.
can opus even search?
bloody hell error again
Hello friends, I'm just wondering why none of the recent Claude models have vision support on Arena? Does anyone know if it will be coming?
most dumbass ai in the world
Please?
lmaooooo
thanks it worked
vis
Oops, I was gonna say you gotta be smarter than a machine
Me when I get frustrated, I just wanna destroy
And sometimes I think about other other day, I was conscious so I t could have feelings
And I could pay back all the frustration back onto it
but the game is rigged. I’m talking to a wall that doesn’t care or feel or know 😭
GEMINI IMAGE keep errorr again guys??
gemini image keeeeeep erorrrr mannn
the last option can also mean in 3001 (because that year is later than 2035)
If you're getting the Something went wrong error try the steps outlined here: #1417174113092374689 message
best coding model im should use, any suggest guy?
You can find the Text Arena leaderboard with Coding category here: https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text/coding
use google flow then :)
but you will get more error :)
Because I wanna see something hilarious
yeah chatgpt's getting banned
I don’t understand how we can even have a conversation about these things being in intelligent
If you had all the AI combined together, dude they wouldn’t even make it a day in the real world
that guy really took exercising with anything to a whole new level
Has anyone gotten the vidu model to work..? I haven’t been able to get it to work for like a week
guys
vidu-q3-pro? What are you seeing?
what beautiful ai made this
P image becoming a model,I’m really enjoying
The more experiments I conduct the more confusing these models get to me. I’m not gonna lie.
I don’t think that the benchmark are inherently bad, but I think they also miss some of the qualities that these models could do that aren’t really benchmarked and it’s really hard to distinguish them because they’re so hard to qualify
Thanks for sharing, I'm seeing a higher than usual error rate, I'm sharing with the team.
Claude or codex
Or maybe qwen
Gemini is too lazy.
holy time to be alive
🤣🤣🤣
who could have imagined it to be having 5 developers at your command
what
Kimi?
There’s a famous YouTuber that does papers on AI. It’s called two minutes paper.
And this is his catchphrase
He’s really famous so when I heard you say that, I assume that that’s what you were referring to
guys i just discovered this thing . it's wow. what's the usage limits on it ?
opus 4.6
this guys voice is fujnny
Ah
Kimi and grok have similar.
Both paid though.
Grok might be very limited free actually as it's in beta
Not 100% sure
I thought his catchphrase was "what a time to be alive"
Wait what me to
Using holy is more emphasized idk
Brains literally got auto correct built in now 😭
thats because brains also predict like auto corrects do
brains are just fancy LLMs 😂
That’s what I thought too
The bring us to reliant on other systems to function
The brain is useless without a body
arena ai is sooo broken
what yall yapping about
no one can tell me otherwise
i feel left out
I have proof
Show me
@grok explain what these folks yapping about
damm
Did you hit your rate limit?
nope
Have you tried any other models?
nope
Or are you just shooting straight to the top?
idk, the leaderboard
Who is better for all use case
7
13
2
Gemini 3.1 pro
I like that simplicity you pick one and you stick with it. Good for you.
opus is better at code hands down
claude is just good for coding ?
Yeah, and it also shows that it reflects that the price
yeah, and for UI
others are for gemini and openai
I don’t know, bro all the UI look the same to me
better than OpenAI's
I wouldn’t know they all of the same to me lol
I seen some pretty cool ones that people made out here but I’m not sure if they’re still around. Some guy made some PlayStation two thing that was awesome.
you ever made ui for a app?
To do what no I haven’t
so how do you know UI is better?
no, but watched a lot of AI yt vids
I like it on grok has
Because it’s really easy to use
Not a big fan of the Gemini one
I don't trust a ai that has a owner which named his son some random things
You shouldn’t ever trust AI.
Googles is the most trustable
Plus, what are you gonna trust it with? What’s your leverage?
Sure, way to get your data sold to the highest bidders
trust it with my grocey list
Not gonna lie that’s pretty solid answer
and I want 20% of the revenue
You’re too fine of a gentleman too be taking things that are free
Normally a gentleman is the one that is able to help the needy because he’s not greedy
He don’t need to take, but he has enough to give away and give someone else a break. You know what I mean.
Have you read the terms of services?
res F saga
It sucks huh bro
Gohan
To watch something so great just spiral into nothing broke my heart
Oh my gosh, yeah him too
The great sayaman
you play dbl?
Nawh I’m not a nerd like that
Jk I don’t play video games
Brian, I am a big fan and I guess you can call me nerdy about Dragon Ball Z
best db game in the world
Who is the weakest character in the whole series in the whole show?
Is there any way I can make Arena edit my whole project?
no
🤣
what?
He really can’t
You know it sucks about that show everybody you have faith in Piccolo go on everybody after they peek they just become garbage
chaoutzu hurt Nappa
He should’ve of stayed home
the dbl meta is soo ass
Man that shows a cautionary tale
the best character is LR VEGITO
You won’t you know who else they flopped on uub
DAMM FUSION UNITS BEAT THE META
Krillin married an AI
no she became a human, after the wishes
Yeah, but you know there was a gap in between
